Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - From Nightlife King to Jail Cell: How Shawn Antonio Rebuilt His Life

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

Shawn Antonio is a life coach, author, and former nightlife impresario who built one of the top events companies in Los Angeles before a life-altering accident forced him to rebuild everythin...g from the ground up. After spending over a hundred days in jail following a tragic motorcycle collision, Shawn faced depression, public scrutiny, and the collapse of the identity he had spent decades creating. Instead of letting the moment define him, he used it as the catalyst to rediscover his purpose.In this episode of Escaping the Drift, John Gafford sits down with Shawn to talk about the accident that changed his life, the friends who disappeared when things fell apart, and the surprising people who showed up when he needed them most. Shawn explains how writing two books during the darkest period of his life helped him rewire his mindset and ultimately pushed him to fully commit to life coaching.He also shares what he’s learned from coaching dozens of clients every week, including the three biggest problems most people face: lack of self-love, broken communication in relationships, and living without a clear sense of purpose. Shawn breaks down the practical habits he uses to stay grounded, from decompression routines to radical honesty in relationships, and why understanding your internal narratives might be the key to escaping the drift in your own life.💬 Did you enjoy this podcast episode? Tell us all about it in the comment section below! ☑️  If you liked this video, consider subscribing to Escaping The Drift with John Gafford *************💯 About John Gafford: After appearing on NBC's "The Apprentice", John relocated to the Las Vegas Valley and founded several successful companies in the real estate space.➡️ The Gafford Group at Simply Vegas, top 1% of all REALTORS nationwide in terms of production. Simply Vegas, a 500 agent brokerage with billions in annual sales Clear Title, a 7-figure full-service title and escrow company.*************✅ Follow John Gafford on social media:Instagram ▶️ / thejohngaffordFacebook ▶️ / gafford2🎧 Stream The Escaping The Drift Podcast with John Gafford Episode here:Listen On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cWN80gtZ4m4wl3DqQoJmK?si=2d60fd72329d44a9Listen On Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/escaping-the-drift-with-john-gafford/id1582927283 *************#EscapingTheDrift #Podcast #PodcastInterview #ShawnAntonio #LifeCoach #LifeCoaching #PersonalDevelopment #SelfImprovement #SelfLove #MindsetShift #FindYourPurpose #OvercomingAdversity #Resilience #SecondChances #PersonalGrowth #HumanPotential #EntrepreneurMindset #Leadership #SuccessMindset #EntrepreneurLifeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now escaping the drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be. I'm John Gafford and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness. So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now. Back again, back again for another episode of the podcast like it says in the opening gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And today, beaming live into the studio, I got a cat that is going to blow you away. This is a guy who has lived a thousand lives in a very short amount of time. He was a big wig in the reality show casting biz back in the day. He is a life coach based out of Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:00:46 He is the author of the book, Be the Beast You Are, an approach to living your life fully unleashed. And guys, he's going to bring the heat today. Welcome to the program, ladies and gentlemen. And this is Sean Antonio. Sean, what's up, buddy? How are you? Oh, what's happening to Johnny? Man, I'm glad to have you on, dude. Been too long since I've seen you. Always good to see you. Yeah, dude, you have had like, again, you have a man that's lived a thousand lives. Some of them good, some of them bad. So you've had done some amazing stuff. You had an amazing, you had a huge setback and an amazing comeback. And we'll get to that a little bit later. But first, let, let's let,
Starting point is 00:01:26 Let's start out with kind of how you met my wife, which was through the reality show casting world. So how you met her? Yeah, yeah. So hi, everybody out there listening. Thank you guys for checking in. Great to be with you all who was watching or listening. So yeah, I met your wife.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'm a Gidgett back in the early 2000. Actually, I was just starting my events company before I became a life coach. I had one of the top of events companies in Los Angeles for about 18 years. So it's called Sean Anthony Presents. And back then I was casting TV shows for Blind Date, the reality show back then and hosting events all over Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:01:56 and in Vegas and so on and so forth. Chicago, Dallas, the whole night. But I met Gidgett back then, and I asked her to be on the show. She came on to be a potential participant on the show, and her and her friend Cheryl, which I haven't talked to Cheryl in years, but Cheryl, she came on and they both audition, and Gidget made it. Personality looks, all the things that we needed on Blind Aid, she did it. So that's how we met initially, and then I started doing a lot of stuff at the Palms in
Starting point is 00:02:20 Vegas, because my assistant back then, she was in relations with one of the very famous people that lived in Vegas at that point in time. So I was in Vegas all the time at the Palms and visiting. And then I started doing events in Vegas. Gisit and I got super tight. And when she made the show, it's pretty funny. And we kept our friendship. And then she worked at the Palms.
Starting point is 00:02:38 So I would see her at the Palms all the time. So at the Palms, at one point once a week because I was hosting events out there all the time. So that's how it started. Thank God you were, you were great at casting women and terrible at casting men. Because I guess her blind date was kind of a colossal failure, which is, you know, Hey, if it would have gone good, I don't know. I don't know if we're having this conversation right now, and I don't know if we're married. So I'm going to be grateful that you weren't that good at that portion of your job, I guess. I'm serious. That's amazing. So, dude, you were, you were, I remember you were balling back in Vegas back in the day and life was coming pretty quick and a lot of amazing stuff was happening. Yeah. And then you had a little bit of a tragedy. Let's get into that. Like, let's talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. So out of the vents, I learned how to. run places and operate places. So at that point in time, I was running a place here in Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:03:28 and I was a GM in the place. And it was one of the hottest spots in town. I won't mention it because it doesn't matter. But point being is I went home that night on New Year's Eve and hadn't had a drink at all that night, right? And what happened was I drove home and unfortunately got in a crazy, crazy accident where someone hit me on a motorcycle. And that night, I was actually thrown in jail for murder because the gentleman died a couple hours later. And unfortunately, there was some circumstances that played a part in it. And it looked like I hit him when he hit me. So that circumstance put me behind. Honestly, I was stuck in that conversation for about a year and a half, fighting to clear my name, showing my innocence, showing I was dead sober
Starting point is 00:04:04 when the accident happened. But unfortunately, all the circumstances did not play a part in my favor. So I had to go to jail. I went to jail from March 1st, 2018 to June 22nd, 2018. It's in jail for 113 days. Actually, 118. So I spent five days when I first got my accident, sitting there waiting to be released because they were trying to figure out what to do with me. Because when somebody gets hit an accent. You can't get to figure out who did what. So there was a lot of many-gang circumstances that played a part. But man, it was a rough, rough year and a half, man. That's almost two years, you know. Because at that point, if I'm, if I'm correct, you and your wife had just had a baby at that point. I mean, you had a young child. Yeah. Our daughter, Viva was, I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:42 she was a year, not even a year. Yeah, a year and change. She had August 20, August 26 was a birthday that year of 2016. So my accident happened January 1st, 2017. So she's a year and change old. It was pretty catastrophic. And I thought it was doing the right thing going home. You know, being a good boy, not doing stupid stuff, and just going home. And damn, something changed my life. To me in another trajectory. Okay. So when you get convicted and they say you have to go to jail and you're sitting there, what was that time like in jail? What, you know, what did you, what choices did you make that changed the direction of what you were trying to do? Well, it was, first of all, it was a lot of thought because, you know, I've never got in trouble
Starting point is 00:05:22 like that or anything like that. So I'm singing, Joe, wondering what, what happens now? What do I do? What do I say? You know, like, I was sitting there for those five days in my head, like, you know, this was a tragic situation, but how do I clear my name, get myself out of this situation? So a lot of thoughts happened there. When I got released, I had to, you know, lawyer up and figure out what that whole experience looked like. And for that year and a half, I was under their tutelage of like what to do, what to, what not to do, what, I had to stop everything. So I went into, I guess you went into mini depression. When I say mini, it was pretty massive. I was in the depression for about six months. My wife Alicia, my badass wife Alicia, much like your Gidget, she, yeah, she said, hey, you're in
Starting point is 00:06:00 a depression. I said, what do you mean? She goes, you're not yourself right now. And I sat and I sat with it. And I just said, okay, what am I going to do with that? In the midst of that depression, you mentioned one of my books. I wrote two books. The first one you just mentioned, Be the Beast You Are. I wrote that. I started that February 14th, actually Valentine's Day of 2017. Yeah, 16, is 17. So I was right in the midst of my depression. And I said, you know what? I got to write something that inspires me and breaks through. So it took three months. And I wrote Be the Beast You R and I released it on July 20th of 2017 again in the midst of my whole thing. And yeah, that really helped me rehab my brain. Rehab like what had happened. I don't want to play victim.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I want to take responsibility for all my actions that cause and contribute to the moment. So I just had to sit through it. And writing is what got me through it. Like writing being around people who me, who support me, who know who I am, who know the truth of what happened, all of that really got me through a depression. So I sat in for about six months. Book number two, having amazing relationships, followed that up. And I released that October 20th of 2017. And that's about your relationships all being juicy and connected and amazing, because that's what I was experiencing. Through my moment of demise and tragedy, my village showed up, my friends, my family, people who love me, they supported me. Say, Sean, what happened? What do you need? And I told,
Starting point is 00:07:18 I told him, like, I just need your love, your quality time, whatever you want to do, when you want to show up, be there for me. So I allowed in a way I'd never allowed before, because I was so busy doing all the time, I allowed people to show up in a way I never, you know, really knew I needed. I needed that in my village, you know? Yeah. So you had a lot of people show, did you have, do you have any people kind of go away because of this?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah, a lot of people actually, a bunch of people actually just vanished. People that were actually there, the night of my, the night I actually left my job and went to came home, there's some friends were actually at the event that night that I still haven't spoken to to this day. So I lost some people. Some people believed that I did end up drinking and driving and killing this man. And that's not what happens. So the people who are courageous enough or close enough to me to say, Sean, what happened? And ask me the truth, those people are still in my life. The other ones is just faded to black. And honestly, at first I was really hurt. It was really in my feelings. I was like, well, my friends that I, you know, spend time with, care about,
Starting point is 00:08:13 I've known for years, vanished. A couple of them said to me that came back after time, said, I didn't know what to say to you, Sean. I thought you could have just asked me what happened. And I want to tell you exactly what happened, you know? Or just how you're feeling? Yeah, you know, and that was a little hurtful. I definitely too personal back then.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I was like, oh, man, where's my closest people that were with me the night, the week before, but where are they? But I'm honestly, a bunch of them have showed up over the years. I've been like, hey, I'm so sorry. I've vanished. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to believe. I'm like, cool, I was always a text away, a call away, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:46 So I got through the feelings. I let that go. I stopped making it mean something about me and let it mean something more about what they were going through. And that's it. I stopped taking it personal. That's what I started to master the art of not taking things personal. That's a huge.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I think part of it is, you know, I kind of came through not the jail stuff. But at one point, I was the GM of what Escort magazine called the number one nightclub on the East Coast United States. And that was that was Cobalt Lounge in Atlanta. And then and then after kind of the Ray Lewis debacle of the Super Bowl of 2000, that kind of ended that club, right? It kind of kind of dried up. And what I realized was in a weird sort of way was, again,
Starting point is 00:09:30 I went through a depression after that because my whole avatar, my whole, my whole self-worth got wrapped up in that job. Like because there was much like probably you in L.A. at that time, there was no place I could not go. I didn't, I waited for nothing. I paid for nothing. It was velvet rope clicking everywhere I went. And everybody wanted to be close to you because of what you were.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And then when that went away, well, now all of a sudden it was like, well, whoa, how many people around me are real and how many people were around me because of that? And it kind of made me jaded for a long time on relationships and very suspect of people going forward. Like, you know, is it about what I can give you or is about who I really am? Did that any of that happen to you? That's exactly some of the emotional places I went through. By the way, John, I can't see you on screen for some reason, but I'm looking at myself, but I can't see it. Oh, you can't.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Oh, because I've locked you up here. That's why. Okay, cool. No, no. Hey, I'm going to unlock you because I'm looking here. Let me do that. Hang on. You want to see your pretty face while we're talking to.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. Hang a minute. Yeah, what's weird. It's weird to talk about this and look at yourself. So. First time. Let me undo that.
Starting point is 00:10:40 There we go. Well, hang on. Yeah, to answer your question as you, as you do that, I'll hang on. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:46 I'll answer your question, then. Yeah, keep going. I'm just, we're going to keep talking here. It was, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:51 I knew that my Sean, Antonio, my brand and Sean Antonio, my brand and Sean Antonio presents. There you go. Welcome back. There we go. What happened is my brand.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I was so big here in Los Angeles. In Vegas, I opened up, , and all the tile properties. I worked at all the light group properties. That was a big brand here in Los Angeles and Vegas. I did some stuff out all over the country.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So when people did, I was a thing, right? Like I was access for people. I was nightlife. I was pool parties. I was a celebrity event. So my identity of Sean Antonio, I was so used to being used, but it was also my business.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So when this thing happened and all that went away, right? Like you said, Kobar, right? I was at the Phoenix and Hollywood, which is still open. I opened up Phoenix Hollywood. And they blew it up. So when that identity of that person got blown up, I had to really rediscover who I have, what my
Starting point is 00:11:44 faces, who I, you're like, what people are in my life because they love me, what people care about me. And that's a really tough moment because I was so used to being the guy that people come to for all the stuff, right? But then when that went away, who showed up was really important. And that's what really mattered to me because people had showed up were like, hey, I'm not just using you for your brand or who you are. I'm using you because I care about you, Sean. But yeah, it's definitely some people I lost.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And I was like, oh, man, where did my people go? You know? Yeah. We had a guest in here tonight, today right now, visiting a little quick. His name is Finito. My little boy just came in and say hi. So I'm going to say, man. He's in here.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I'm saying hi. So I guess he's going to hang out with us for a minute. Sounds totally cool. I love him. I think he was on. Finito. There is. No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So, well, let me ask you this. So when you got out of the other side of this, because of some of that, Is that why you didn't go back in a nightlife because you were like, okay, I want something that's a little more real or I just, you know, you know, I was building my coaching brand since 2003. So Sean had to have my life coaching. I started building it in 2003 and I wasn't fully committed to it yet.
Starting point is 00:12:48 In 2008, I started coaching people. So most of my celebrity friends. And then in 2011, Alicia and I, when she first joined me as my business partner, she said, hey, you have your brand, our brand, right? Your nightlife brand, but why don't you start a coaching brand as well? So I did. I launched it, but I didn't fully commit to it. When the accident happened, it kind of shook me to like, what am I doing in nightlife? I'd been in nightlife. I was a choreographer, dancer in Miami, New York from 13 to 24.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I'm on a dance company from 22 to 24. So I lived in nightlife in that capacity. Then I come to L.A. back in blind, eight days and all those nightlife days. And I was in the nightlife from 1999 in 2017. Nightlife was everything for me, right? It was nonstop. And outside of that, I wanted to be responsible for being. living my purpose and life coaching was so organic and it was so what I studied I've been studying psychology most of my life I didn't go therapist style but I was really good in it so life coaching took over and in 2017 while I was writing those two books I went deep into the rabbit hole and said hey let me build some tools some psychology and some things to really take my coaching
Starting point is 00:13:53 ran to the next level I had a captive audience I had friends all the world millions of people I've, you know, hosted in my events. So I had people to talk to. So I just looked at who I had around me and just said, all right, Sean, it's time to fall into that. And it just pivoted everything, shift it everything. Which came first, Sarah, the chicken of the egg meeting. Because like you mentioned you had celebrity clients kind of out of the box.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Is that something that, did people come to you like, hey, Sean, you seem like, you know, you know what I need to do. Let's do this. Are you like, okay, I'm going to do this. And then went to them and said, hey, I have this coaching program. Dude, you know what? It was so organic. I was in my night life.
Starting point is 00:14:27 persona, giving people advice at my events, helping them through breakdowns, relationships, depressions. Some people were suicidal. You know, some of my friends are huge lovers who have big houses and mansions and they're world famous and all night, and they were still stuck. So it was organic. I never, I didn't know what life coaching was. I didn't know what becoming an international life coaching brand looked like. I just knew that I had a knack for seeing people and knowing the psychology became human behavior and all things that studied and read and all that stuff. So it was organic. It was never forced. So, but yeah, one, I said, hey, everybody, I'm now fully a life coach.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And a lot of my friends came my way. And it was really cool. Most of my clients right now are my friends. I don't even call them clients. My friends way coach. Yeah. Was there anybody that, because obviously, you know, people like to follow the trends. People like to follow this.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Was there any client you got off the bat that, like, made it much easier to get other clients? You know what? There is one. And he lives in Houston right now. But he was somebody and ran into one day. After I sold my car, we had just sold, we had been at WX3, we loved. And we sold it, and I bumped into him.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And he was like, hey, Sean, I heard your life coaching now. Can I be your client? And I said, fuck out, let's talk about it, you know? And from him, he created this thing for me I now call cluster coaching. He gave me 28 people in his world. And how it started was he gave me his mom, his current girlfriend at that point in time. And then that spawned from the current girlfriend gave me another. friend and mom gave me another friend and then he gave me constant people and then those people gave me
Starting point is 00:16:03 people so out of him i think right now i'm at like 39 people out of one person out of that one client out of that one client slash friend who is still a good friend who wanted me he said hey can i sign on for 10 years once somebody says they want to be your client for 10 years as a coach you were like i was like emotionally no but uh yeah he signed he jumped in that was 2019 and since since him he's giving me So many people. I got to coach his mom for a year and a half. Unfortunately, she passed in COVID. But I coached your toe pretty much the day she was gone.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That was amazing. I'll talk about a heart. Man. So, yeah, there is a lot of that happens. A lot of my people give me their people, their mom's, dad's, cousins, sisters, brothers, so it clusters out. So how many clients are you coached any given time?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Anywhere between on a slow week, which is not slow, but slow week, it's 19 people. On a big week, it's 52 is my biggest. week. And that 52 week was a lot because it was pretty much all day, you know, 10 hours a day, 10 hours a day, five years. And it was two, it was one day I did 12 hours. It was a little bit too much. I did I did too much that Friday after coaching all week. I needed some decompression. So I went and meditated and grounded and like went for a walk, went to a run, just like get all out of me. Because 52 people, 52 hours of stuff. And being so sharp, each phone call,
Starting point is 00:17:23 I had 30 seconds between phone calls. Oh my God. So how do it's okay, when you've got that kind of a workload, how did you reset yourself between each one to make sure that everybody gets their best? How do you do that? Do my homework at night on who I'm coaching that day, have it kind of prepped in my head. So curating each one of their sessions, being present, slowing down, having their lifework slash homework for them so they can get it. And then the last five or ten minutes, we review what they got out of it and what they're going to go do and where they might stumble. So I leave them super empowered to do that, right?
Starting point is 00:17:55 So that's such, that's one person. Same thing for all the other people. At the end of the day, what I would do, I'd go sit on my front porch when I lived on in West Hollywood. I'm in Hollywood now, but at least your wife, you would be like, hey, go do your decompression thing. I'd just go sit and be for half an hour. No phone.
Starting point is 00:18:10 No nothing. Just let my thoughts come out, just ground, take my shoes off, and my socks off, put my feet in the grass and just meditate and just sit there and be and like release. And I think that's what we all mess up in. Us people who are out in the world who are entrepreneurs and doing all this crazy stuff, we don't
Starting point is 00:18:26 decompress well. So we carry all this energy from work and stress and we're not good at it. And I realized I was terrible at it back then. So I had to start grounding, earthing, going to be in Mother Nature, going to sit, going to do things that light me up, going for runs, go for, I find in love with running back in 2022 because I needed it. I started needing that therapy. My therapy is running a mile, running, you know, six, seven miles a day. That became like an addiction for me. But it was cleansing. Something healthy. That's what I recommend for decompression. I tell some of my clients, on your drive home from work. Listen to your favorite music.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So you can separate work from home. And the way home, you're not just obsessing over work. You're clearing out your brains. You can be a fully present mother, partner, friend, whatever it is, right? So we had to get better about decompression tactics for ourselves. Well, you mentioned that is a problem. But now you've got enough clients out there. You probably see some trends and some pattern recognition over a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So what problems would you say? If they were concurrent over the majority of your clients? Like, like, what are issues people are having? Let's go. I got a bunch. I'll list off right now. Today. Self love.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Really loving on yourself. Getting rid of all the negative narratives you have about yourself. Any ill, I called them false narratives. I also called them, you, I mean, your filters. There's a bunch of different ways people say it, right? Your self-imposed stories you put on yourself, right? So self-love, big one. A lot of people do not know how to love themselves and really care about who they truly are
Starting point is 00:19:51 and accept everything they are. That's part one. Part two. Hey, hang on. What's the solution for that? So how do you walk them through that? Find out who you really are outside of your identity, right?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Like if I took off my glasses right now, right? And out of, and I love my glasses and room all the time. But like, if you just can tear apart what you think you're supposed to be versus who you truly are. Because we were born a certain way, born in culture,
Starting point is 00:20:16 born of different skin color, whatever it may be, right? The way you dissect, you dissect that is what are the stories in the false times you're telling yourself every day? Are you judging yourself? Are you giving yourself a hard time? Are you holding yourself to unrealistic expectations?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Are you still looking at some of your trauma from your childhood or your last relationship? Are you jaded from when your friends vanished from your crazy accident? You've got to deconstruct all that stuff and see where you're not loving on yourself. And I always say to people, especially now, do one, two, three things a day that's self-love oriented. That's only for John, only for Alicia, only for Gidgett, only for Sean. One thing, two things of day that has nothing to do with work. or kids' responsibilities is something that lights you up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And fall in love with yourself. That's a really big deal. You know, a lot of us have a lot of undeelt with trauma and incomplete stories we're still walking around with. Yeah. I got to, I got, well, I got to tell you, like, one of the most useful things that I've done probably in the last, you know, probably five months or so was I had something that happened and I had a kind of a visceral negative reaction to it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And I was like, man, I just, I don't think I should. should be this angry about this. I think I'm far too mad about what's going on. And so I'm trying to let me I'm trying to remember how I got to where to what I did. I don't know if so I was very angry and I looked something up and it kind of came back where it was talking about somehow I wound it up on Carl Young and your shadow self. I let I landed on that right. So I was so I was like all right. So let's try to get in touch with this. So I went into Gemini and I created a project where I said, okay, you're an expert on everything that Carl Young has ever taught and the shadow self and all of these things. And I want you to ask me 50 questions about myself. So I'll know more about
Starting point is 00:22:08 myself than I ever have. And then I went through this thing with Gemini. So now I have this bot that now knows so much about me. And I answered very honestly about a lot. And now what happens is when I find something hits me in a way that, you know, or like you wake up, like I used to wake up in the middle of the night, like just wake up and the circus would go off, right? And you're like, yeah, ah, bad. Like, like now I just roll over and I'm like, hey, I woke up and I was very anxious about this. And this bot that now knows me so well. It's like, well, okay, this is why this is happening. And this is why this unresolved thing here. And this is what you probably need to do to deal with it. Just understand it's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And here's what you do. I'm like, cool. And I go right back to sleep, right? I'm just instead of stewing on something all night long, I'm right back to sleep. And literally I gave this like I gave the prompt to my wife when we were flying back from New York. And I looked over her and she was like crying. And I'm like, it's good bot. I'm like, this is a good bot. They can bring her to tears about her stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:06 But I think that of all the advancements and all the things that you can do with AI, yeah, you can make funny videos and whatever else. But dissecting your, like if you, as long as you train the thing on the exact kind of, you know, theory. Your algorithm. Yeah. Yeah. But on the theory that you wanted to know, like, I was really just interested in exploring this through the eyes of Carl Young and that shadow self-deal. And it really has opened my eyes to a lot of things, the way that I think about a lot of different things. So I totally get that. Yes, totally self-love. Big check mark with that. Totally great. I love that.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Thank you for sharing that too, John. That's really powerful because with all the events in AI, you can't use that. My wife has trained her chat. You can see for a lot of things. We do a lot of spiritual deep diving when things happen on our chat. So there's definitely that. So self-love is a big one. Number two, which is also a massive one, which people mess up all the time. Relationships, all of them. I'm talking specifically love. People mess up love relationships, whether they're married, engaged, dating, wherever it is. There's something about the inauthenticity of us not showing up being our true selves and relationships. We sell people the idea of who we want to be versus who we truly are. One of my favorite examples, and his name is,
Starting point is 00:24:18 Josh, I won't say his last thing, but I'm very famous dude. Good point in mind. And he, I ran to him a couple of years back. And he looked better than I never seen him. So I said, hey, Josh, what's up, man? What's going on with? He's like, dude, I'm so happy. I had this killer job.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I'm doing this thing. I got all this money. Life is flowing. All right. And I go, cool, tell me more. He goes, I wanted this date with this girl. I went, okay, tell me more. He goes, the Tinder date, we sat down.
Starting point is 00:24:38 We sat next to each other, and we said, all right. And he started off. He goes, here's who I am. This is his first date. Here's who I am. my money a little bit frivolously, and I could be better about sleeping. Here's what's awesome about me. I travel the world. I'm a really loyal person. I don't cheat. I'm best friends with my mom and dad. I have a great brain. I'm really smart. I'm all these things. But those are things I like to
Starting point is 00:25:04 work on. So I'm just going to be honest with who I am. Here it is. This is date one. The waiter, or waitress had come back, and she, the waiter, the chick looked up and was like, what this? And so she just said, they ordered their drinks. And she paused, and she goes, Wow, that was the most refreshing thing I've ever heard. Let me tell you who I am. And then she said, all the bad things and all the good things, they're still together right now. Locked in a hotel room doing an eight ball because she had the same problems.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's what's going on. I'm sure. There you go. No, no, no, no. I'm just kidding. No. That's hilarious. Hey, did you guys relapse?
Starting point is 00:25:39 What happened? Yeah. I found my soulmate. Yeah. And what I say about love is like we mess up love because we don't share with people. One of the reasons why Alicia and I work. so well. And I share this with my contacts a lot. My friends this morning I have one with my friends. She goes, why do you unleash it works so well? And I say, because we're constantly
Starting point is 00:25:54 updating our playbook. We tell each other what we're available for, what we're not available before, what we like, what we don't like? Where we're expanding. If a trigger got stepped on, what are we doing? And if a trigger gets stepped on, we're big fans of like, hey, let's unpack that. Like one time she called me out. She goes, hey, 2014. She goes, hey, you're really defensive. And my defensive, Sean said, said, no, I'm not. Yeah. Let me tell about me. Yeah. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And she goes, hey, could you look at that? And I said, yeah, yeah, let me look at it. And I realized it was because I was a older brother. I have a younger brother who's 46, he's five years younger. I'm 51. My sister just turned 40 last week. And so I raised my brother and sister, you know, as a big brother, and I was always the responsible one, right?
Starting point is 00:26:36 So I had this defense mechanism built inside of myself at 12 years old. They started building. So I looked at it and I got it from my childhood. And in that moment, dealing with where I got it. it if you can pinpoint your trauma and release yourself from that five-year-old self, that six-year-old self, that 12-year-old self, and take responsibility and comedy for how it's showing up today. And I looked at my life, and I was kind of defensive here and there, my friendships. So Alicia pointed out, I looked at it, and you got to be willing to open that up. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:06 with love and relationships, speak what you want, too. A lot of people, I know you and get you have some beautiful things together, right? And I know enough about you. Obviously, I was and know more and connect deeper, but like it takes such clear communication, takes understanding and love and all the things that we say we want, but we got to be better about how we show up in our relationships and be authentic. And, you know, stuff and our true us and not this like standard we think we're supposed to live that. It's a lot. It's a lot there at Tom Pack. Well, I think people, especially when they're married, are very good at telling the other person the things that are working for them in the marriage, but they're not good at telling people the
Starting point is 00:27:44 things that are not working for them in the marriage or and dude and for me and dude and here's the funny thing right yeah i find that i find that gidget and i like the problems that we have are so incredibly trivial it's just nonsensical but we still voice like for me it's like i scraped the side of a container too loud with a plastic container with a fork drives me insane i don't know why it's completely but but see but when i say stuff like that i preface it like i know this is completely irrational. I know it makes no sense. I know it is insane. When you scrape the inside of the yogurt thing, I want to smother you with a pillow, right? I know it makes no sense. But I think part of good communication is you should be allowed to say things that don't make any damn sense.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And you know that it'll make any sense, but you still get to say them because it's like, okay, look, that's crazy, but it's an easy fix for me. Like there's not a, I just, I won't scrape the inside of the yogurt container like it's an easy mix. Yeah. Like I don't, and if she comes at me with something like that, I don't need to justify it either. I don't care. It's like if it is an easy fix, then it's not worth fighting over moving on. You know, that's it.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And my relationship, I call it the switch. I turn the switch off. I'm like, oh, that annoys you. That triggers you. Cool. Let me stop that. Because it's just something I'm doing, right? So, and if there's something deeper, we dig for it.
Starting point is 00:29:06 But love is another one, right? I'd say number three is people living in their purpose. Like when I ask people, hey, what are you here for? What's your purpose? People don't know how to answer that. Like, you know, like, oh, my purpose is to do it. I'm like, no, not what you to do. Like, my purpose is to change the world.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So I became a life coach organically. My purpose is changing the world human by human. And reason why I started over famous people is because they had more reach. They just had more impact. So if they're changing, their impact is global, right? So that's how I started. But organically, I love everybody. And I want to change everybody's life.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So purpose, figuring out their purpose, especially at milestone ages, like, I was seeing guys you saw Gidgett's birthday and I just come. I was, oh my God, kid, you look great, right? We hit these milestone numbers. Let's start with 25.
Starting point is 00:29:47 So my 25 girls are like, ah, third, I know, we laugh. No, no, I'll tell you why I'm laughing because on my 25th birthday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I got a phone call at 7.30 in the morning. It was from my father. And he said, happy dumbass birthday. And I went, what? What are you talking about? And he goes,
Starting point is 00:30:07 well, see, yesterday, you were 24. So if you did something dumb, people would say you were a 24-year-old kid. No such thing as a 25-year-old kid. Now you do something dumb. You're just a dumbass. So act accordingly.
Starting point is 00:30:21 And that was, and it was right. Yeah. Who says 25-year-old kid? You're a grown-up at 25, or at least you better be acting like one. Yeah. And then I love that. That's show up, right? And then you see all these different milestones ages, like 30.
Starting point is 00:30:37 At 30, we're told we're supposed to be someplace, right? Have a solid career or whatever. Whatever social status status standard is at 35, we're like, oh, who am I? What am I supposed to be doing in my life? No matter if you, man, a woman, whatever is right? And then at 40 we have this, uh-oh, we're 40, right? That's always a big one for people, right? I just hit 50 a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I'm 51, about 352 this year. And it's like, when I hit 50, I was like, ooh, this is cool. I had to look at myself and go, okay, well, what's my, am I living my purpose? Am I being true to what I really need in this life job? Am I being an honest and amazing human being? I was chucking some boxes. And then I said, all right, what are my 50s to look like? And I realized I had something.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I don't know if this ever resonates for you at all too, John, but I realized I've been, on all my careers, I had to prove myself to get to some place. I had to be the best host of every event. I'd be a best GM. I had to be a best choreographer, dancer. I had to be the best life coach. And at 50, I divorced that idea.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That's the one thing that I saw for myself that was still running me. I was still proving to myself and others that I was the best at everything. Why? Because when I was six years old, mom and dad got divorced. That little kid was running a 50-year-old man going, hey, keep proving yourself. You'll get love and attention and affection.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It's impacting the traumas. That undelt, that unowned trauma at 50, I saw it. And I was like, oh, man, I'm still trying to prove myself in life. What is that, Sean? And I had to look at myself in the mirror and really release that and divorce that thing. And that's what it's about. It's like facing all those things. So from, you know, yourself, love where I started, to love and to now purpose, it takes.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It takes some unpacking. It takes people looking at themselves and really dealing with. That's a lot of stuff I'm dealing with right now. Well, I love that idea about the age milestones and what you should or shouldn't be doing. You know, I had said, like, the thing that's probably hit me. Like, I was like, what are you talking about? Was I just got back, me and some friends took a trip to Antarctica and repelled down a glacier in the middle of the middle of Antarctica. And yeah, where we were less, more, more. people climb Everest every year than go to the interior of Antarctica. And that's where we were. And it was a huge trip. And here's the thing. Like we had this crazy trip to South Africa and we're there for 10 days. And the thing that keeps sticking in my mind is on the way back, I had a
Starting point is 00:32:55 30, I call it 36 hour layover in Dubai. And so, um, randomly a bunch of very high level entrepreneurs that I know were in Dubai for an event. So I was like, you're in Dubai. I'm gonna buy. So we all hooked up and we all went to dinner. And one of the guys who's a really good dude was like, where did you go? And he nice. This is a nice guy, but he's like young guys, like 32. And he's like, where did you go? I'm like, well, we did this. And I showed him the video. I'm like, probably like, pal on the glacier. He's like, bro. He's like, people your age don't do stuff like that. And I'm like, what? What are you talking? I'm like, what are you talking about? Like people my age. Like what? He's like, yeah, dude, you're like, you're like, you know, in your 50s like people don't do I'm like what like it never even occurred to me yeah that like I shouldn't be doing like it just never even crossed my mind and I'm like what do you like huh and I still I say every day I'm like you know I he wasn't a shot it was genuine like surprise that like oh you're still out there doing it good good for you buddy I'm like bro I'm like in my mind I was talking to Gidit about this I'm like I'm perpetually like 32 years old in my brain
Starting point is 00:34:10 That's kind of where I just kind of, I don't think I feel any different physically or mentally than I have since I've been 32 years old. I just kind of feel the same. And that's kind of where in my brain, I guess I am age wise. But it just never occurred to me that I should know guys my age don't do stuff like that. What are you talking about? Yeah, so releasing this. So that's a great story about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But so now, so hang on. So there's more to it. So now then you go to the flip side and you're like, I mean, I'm not buying a car. Corvette and a captain sat. So you're like, I'm having some kind of a weird like midlife cry. Is that why I'm doing all those crazy? No, it's just, I'm just doing the same kind of stuff that I've always done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah. Anyway, that's, but what right there is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, right? Like me at 51, I don't have it like there's nothing. There's something out of my reach. I just go live life. And Alicia, I now call you this because she calls me and she goes, you're an alien, Sean. Don't compare yourself to anybody. you do things, say things
Starting point is 00:35:10 be some ways a 51 year old guy of 41 year 45, there's nobody like you. And John, you're on that category. You're an alien, dude. You don't think, oh, I'm in my 50. I shouldn't do this. You go, I'm going to do that. Let's, yeah, what? So I'm going to do all that stuff. And it's just that's, that's another
Starting point is 00:35:27 thing I think people are getting stuck with, especially since COVID hit the world. We started kind of giving ourselves shit about where we're supposed to be at a certain time in life. I just got the phone with a friend of mine this morning. She was talking about it. She's turning 40 in April. And she's like, I feel like I haven't really done anything in my life. And I said, please shut up and listen.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I ranted for 10 minutes because I've known to 60, 2017. And I coached her back then. I still coached her now. And I told her her accomplishments since I've known her at 31. 31 to now, right? It's 39. I told her what she's done. And she goes, oh, I guess I have done some stuff, huh?
Starting point is 00:35:59 Like, that's the thing. We don't give ourselves credit. We don't celebrate small wins. We don't celebrate ourselves. We don't celebrate that we got out of bed today and dressed up and went to work. We don't do that. We're constantly stressing ourselves. And that's another layer of things that we got to get rid of.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Another current thing I'm doing with a lot of my people is rediscovering yourself outside of your stress and your responsibilities. What do you? Besides all the things that you're doing involves you juggling in businesses you have. Like I'm a corporate speaker, keynote speaker. I speak on stages around the world. I'm not obsessing about that all the time. Yes, when it's time to do that, I put on the jacket, I put on the coat, go, right?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Got them playing go, right? And my coaching. I love my people. I stay in touch with them. But I'm not like obsessing over that. There's balance. And people have to get better about balance. I'm teaching a lot of my people balance in like me time. We're doing a lot of schedule of me time where a lot of my moms are struggling because
Starting point is 00:36:49 they're like, oh, I don't know how to do that. I'm like, stop. Me time. Half hour a day. Unplugged from everybody and do that. I just yelled out with my friend yesterday. Well, I think it's one of the most important things you can do as an entrepreneur is really understand.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And with a lot of entrepreneurs that I, you know, I do a lot of consulting. for equity as well. And the first thing when you meet a founder, you know, one of the first questions is always, if you were to leave for a month, what would happen? And if it's like, oh man, you know, everything would fall apart. Okay, then dude, you don't own a company.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You got it, you own a job. Like, because everything depends on you. And I can say for probably the first time in 14 years, well, maybe 15 years, I left for 10 days. And I, you know, and look, I've got great people that handle all of my stuff for me and run all of our companies for me. But I still, I got back and I was still like, okay, I'm jet lag like crazy, but I'm still going in today because I know I'm going to get the list of the disasters
Starting point is 00:37:50 that I got to deal with. And there was nothing. Like everything was fine. Like, I mean, sure, things happened while I was gone, but everything got handled. All the problems were fine. Everybody was happy, no issues whatsoever. And I was like, you know what? Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And that says, and that tells you, you know, you can do this again and it's going to be okay because we have built those systems and processes in place and with great people surrounding me to enable you to do that. And I think if you're an entrepreneur that's struggling with a lot of what you're talking about, you've got to figure out how to kind of get yourself out of the way so you can have those little mini adventures. Oh, man. And exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And John, you're nailing. So I'm going to point this finger back at you. What you did is what I teach people often. A lot of my CEOs and people like that, I teach them the art of delegation, the art of trust, showing them the playbook, walking them through, putting systems and structures in place so that people have access to thrive at the job. They've worked, they're working for you or with you. When I started my events company and I started hiring sub promoters from my company,
Starting point is 00:38:52 I taught them everything I knew. I didn't keep any secrets. I said, hey, guys, this is how I do this, that, that, call the city, do that, I'm by, I taught him everything. This is the owner's name. This is what he owns and all the properties. This is a place. Entile group are doing this.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And I taught him everything. So if you empower people, find out who the fuck they are. Ask them about them, their dreams, their hopes, their wishes, their strengths, their weaknesses, and get clear about who that person is and put them in a place where they can thrive and anything they need help with. Be that leader, not manager, not boss, but be the leader that shows them how to do it or opens up that door. And then you've got to trust them. And it sounds like what you did is you communicated well. I'm going to plan on some great things. Communicated well. Trusted your team. put systems and structures in place.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You unplugged, so you gave yourself that goal, and then you actually believe that you could do it. So you were gone for those 10 days and came back in no fires. I paid that back, you and Gidgett and the team. Well, I would also say that a lot of that is just you've also got to get absolutely committed to hiring A players. And if they're not an A player, they've got to go. Because, you know, we get in business,
Starting point is 00:40:04 especially if you have a big ship with a lot of moving parts, sometimes you fill a hole with somebody and you're like, okay, that spot's good. I can move on to the next thing. And even though it might not be the best thing, you leave it there because you get like this. It's easier to leave that person there than try to bring somebody else in. And I think that was a mistake that I made for years. And now I'm to the point where, you know, it's got to be a hell yes or it's hell no. And as soon as you get in a maybe, if you're maybe for me, then you're hell no and you got to go. Um, you're nicer than me.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Mine is a fuck yes or a fuck no. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. But you just, you have to do that, right? And in who you choose to surround yourself with is such a, it will make your life easy or hard. And that's from your spouse to your assistant to your C.O. Yeah. Hey, and I just want to kind of circle back to something.
Starting point is 00:40:55 So first of all, those beautiful what you just share, but I want to, you know, the point that you brought up about me going through my, my trauma and the whole situation. You are not defined by your trauma. I'm just going to tell people whoever was watching this and gets, you know, present to what we're saying here. It's like we get to say who we are in the face of breakdowns. And one of the things I have to keep telling myself and retrain myself when I was going through that depression was, Sean, this is just a moment. It's just a chapter. It's just an unfortunate situation.
Starting point is 00:41:19 We're going to be every day to better yourself to get yourself to a place of, you know, healthy mindsets. So I kept fueling myself. And that's what we do is unfortunately we give ourselves such shit and we ride ourselves so hard that we don't give ourselves the chance to actually forgive ourselves. Like a big thing I've been going through with a lot of my friends is people I'm coaching is self-forgiveness and not being hard on yourself and easing up on yourself, especially as entrepreneurs who have multiple companies and things like that. It's like we've got to ease up on yourself. Yes, still be diligent and consistent, but ease up on yourself. And the big thing about going through anybody who's listening to this and has gone through some major trauma, unpack the trauma. Ask yourself, what are you saying to yourself on the daily basis after it happened?
Starting point is 00:41:57 We already happen, right? You can't change that outcome, right? So who can you be in the face of it now? day one, minute one, and start to retrain your brain, having different conversations. Like, the last time I've been in a podcast to even talk about this, there's probably three, maybe four years ago. I don't talk about it anymore. I completed the energy.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I have my piece with the gentleman who hit me. I got complete with all the stuff around it. Anybody who asked me about it, I told them the whole thing. I'm complete about it. I am not that. It's a thing that happened, or as my friend Brad, one of my best he says, he says, it's a book on the shelf. You know? Well, it's an equivalent of one.
Starting point is 00:42:31 and somebody asked you what you do and you're like, I'm a little league baseball player. No, you did that when you were 10. It's not what you do now, you know? I wish, I wish some realtors would learn that about their head shots. That it's okay to move on from that headshot from 1985. But yeah, don't get me started on the realtor. I just see it in your face.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Well, no, it used to, okay, it's gotten worse now because it used to be like the same picture from 1985. And now it's like, Make me look like a 25-year-old supermodel AI headshot. And I'm going to go with that. And it was like, you know, like, the first thing I want, I don't want people to do when they meet me is go, huh. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yes. No. I digress. I digress. I totally, totally get that. Yeah. So that, I kind of want to leave everybody with that. Like, okay, so who are you going to be for yourself this year?
Starting point is 00:43:29 My thing this year. And I'm just going to give everybody listening. there what I'm doing my clients and friends they gave them this new exercise for the year and here's the exercise declarations no resolutions we're going to declare declarations that we want to be this year we're actually in the set intentions we're going to set goals and set new ways of being and we're doing quarter by quarter from my quarter heads who operate in corporate america and corporate structures and brains seems to work to keep them inspired for those 90 days 92 days right so we're doing my quarters right so january first to march 3rd 1st April 1st to june 30th
Starting point is 00:43:59 like that, right, chorus. And I've noticed that I'm giving people working five, five in each category. So five, I'll share some months, five declarations for me, right? For me, one of them is booking at least one corporate grade per month that I speak on the stage. That's one, that's one declaration. What I'm doing behind that is talking to my big corporate companies to hire me for it, right? My PR firm to get me on stages and places I need to be. That's what I'm doing to make that happen, right? And intention this year, for me, spend more quality time with my son, our daughter with Finn and Viva, you saw,
Starting point is 00:44:32 then he just rolled in here. It's like, being more available to my family, right? That's an intention they have. So now I have to slow down, unplug at certain times, and go, okay,
Starting point is 00:44:40 I'm done being coach Sean or speaker, Sean, and go, be with the family, right? A goal I have this year, go back to Florida and spend quality time my mom, my brother and my sister
Starting point is 00:44:49 and just be with them unplug for four days, five days, whatever it looks like, right? And then having, like, ways of being that challenge you and you know me more enough
Starting point is 00:44:58 and says, Gitch it, what are my challenge? this year I'm struggling and sucking at is being quiet. I'm practicing being quiet. Good. Yeah, that, yeah, it's so, yeah, I just, the world would be a better place if we could just go back to everybody not having to have an opinion on every single thing. One of the most, I mean, if you're listening to this, let me tell you one of the, the one phrase that will set you free, which is this. I don't have an opinion on that. You want to, you want to, like, just, I don't have an opinion on that. Yeah. I don't have an opinion.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah. I'm an opinion. You know what? And I'm no offense to anybody listening to this at all, right? But yes, we do impose our opinions on people when people don't really ask us. Like, there's times this past week or two, I've been sitting in my home and watching my, Alicia talk to our friends, whatever. And I just sit, listen, I don't try and fix or coach or contribute or anything.
Starting point is 00:45:57 A friend of mine came over on Sunday for Super Bowl Sunday. and she was she's um she's starting studying hypnotherapy and becoming a hypnotherapist she came into my house the house of coaching and she's like and she's one of my good friends and she just wanted this whole like hour long rant of tools that i should use for my sessions well i did i just listened i listened yeah and she's like she's this she'll sing you all my stuff you and i'm like thank you i and i get that that was her way of saying and is she a like is she a coach though is she a coached all she's working towards becoming a coach she already has a gift for herself And she's in mid-50s.
Starting point is 00:46:31 She's looked in life, right? So she's got some stuff behind her. And some of her stuff was gold. But because I'm practicing being quiet, I didn't cut her off or disagree or say, she told me things I already do. I've been doing for 10 years. So it's funny you say that because by the time this comes out, this will already be out. So I have a newsletter that goes out every Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I read it. The Wednesday wake up, right? The Wednesday wake up. And so I normally, it's just little things will happen in my life. And I was like, whatever. And I start kind of researching how I feel or what I think about it, or ways to get better. And you'll appreciate this so much as a life coach.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Why people are programmed to seek advice from those close to them that are completely unqualified to give said advice is one of the great mysteries that I know. So a girl that I know shared this, I guess she's newly single, but she shared this long diatribe that this woman. had written on Facebook about why men are failing in relationships. And it was this long dieticop about why we are screwing up and why we, where we need to commit more in relationships.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And of course, so out of curiosity, I click on her profile. And I'm going to give you one guess if she's married or not. Ah, come on. No. So, and I'm there thinking, taking marital advice from a single person is like hiring a fat person to be your dietitian. Yeah. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:47:59 But we want to seek out information that makes us comfortable with ourselves, which is normally from the people closest to us, rather than seeking out people that are qualified. You know why? I go too, John. Enroll. We're enrolling people and being on our team so we can be justified in our thoughts and our actions. So we get people that aren't qualified because of people like me that are,
Starting point is 00:48:19 I change that for you, ship that for you, point out the flaws in your statements, right? But the people they're telling are unqualified because they want them to be oh yeah you know joan i really i don't know i said joan but hey john you know i really i understand yeah yeah you're right you're right because it fuels them being stuck stay in familiar cycles that's my infinity logo is my my my logo and my brand my company because we do this circle we stay stuck we keep doing the same things over and over again that's again definition of insanity right so that's what we do we enroll the wrong people because then we get to say justified right our ego gets to
Starting point is 00:48:53 stay in check like oh fuck that guy or fuck that girl whatever it is right It's it's it's what that's where we that's one of the fatal flaws of humans. Yeah. I see it all the time. The echo the echo chamber that it gets increasingly worse every single day. I mean when, uh, you know, when the halftime show at the Super Bowl becomes a major political event, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, there's a lot there. What are we doing? Yeah, it's a lot there. I made, you know, it's funny, I made a comment about that. And I look at everything through a business lens. Everything is always a business lens. So I made the comment. And this is what I wrote on on Facebook, which I wrote.
Starting point is 00:49:31 That was quite a spectacle, which it was, was an incredible spectacle. I said, albeit only 14% of the U.S. population speak Spanish. So I'm wondering if they missed the Tam, meaning total, total, accessible market. It was my question. That was it. And I'm looking at that from a business lens. It was no, you know, Trump bad, this person good. I hate, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And do some of the. comments that came below that were like yeah that's a racist thing to say I'm like what did you even read what I wrote or just looking through Facebook hitting people and it was nuts and in the truth of it is the truth of that story and I like three people write same comments that were like no no no got to understand the NFL's trying to go for a global market they knew they were going to concede they already have the old white guys in America they're not going to turn it off they're trying to grow the brand they're trying to grow the brand internationally into Latin America yeah that made Total sense. That's a quality answer that makes business sense to me. It had nothing to do with anything else.
Starting point is 00:50:33 But of course, you're still got to have a million people that have their own opinion on their tribes because it's nuts. Honestly, it was that part, I'm part Pan Aminian and Dutch. My dad's from Panama, Colombia, Spain, Jamaica, we're from Brazil. And, oh, my mom's time I'm a word Dutch from the Netherlands, from Holland, from Aruba Bonner, Kurosov, like that, the Dominican Republic. I saw so many of the flags I grew up with and I saw some of my flags. And I was like, that just touched me to see all those flags in that moment. And as a choreographer, dancer, I saw all my people.
Starting point is 00:51:05 I danced. Yeah, spectacle. I danced. I grew up on cha, cha, cha, cha, chah, rumba. That's what I, that's me. That's pieces I've done. So I saw that. And I was just like, it was emotional for me.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I was really touched. But yeah, it was a political statement. And yeah, there was some moments. But see, again, I don't think it was a political statement. I think it was the NFL. I think it was the NFL trying to grow into Latin. America. I think... 100%. I think social media made it a political event.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I mean, there were some, there were some stuff underneath it, but I know that bad money got chosen to get new audiences. Yes. And because he's a great performer and he's one of the most celebrated performers in Latin America period right now. So like, he's a great business move. And listen, like I told my wife, if Norwegian death metal was the number one selling act in the world right now, it would have been like.
Starting point is 00:51:55 like, bro my scientist's what I would have been, right? Because they're just, they're just trying to grow their reach any way they can. I get, I get it. So if you had, number one, if they want to find you, how do they find you, Sean? Okay, so everybody, first of all, thank you for your time and all this stuff. I give out my phone number, my website, the whole thing. So my website is www. www.shan-an-a-n-n-t-t-o-n----------- look me up. You'll see all my referrals and people the sun stuff and all my classes and all the social media and all this stuff i actually also my huge texture and phone caller i'm old school like that i don't dm so anybody wants to dm me you can find me at at sean antonio life coaching very like concentrated culture of people who follow me uh so s h a w n a and t
Starting point is 00:52:40 or n i like coaching at an instagram and then you just text me shoot me text of something that resonated for you today that you heard text me at 310 428 5017 Just text and say, Sean, I heard you with John. I heard some points to talk. Let's talk. Love to work with you. Love to do some stuff with you. I'm all about taking you from where you're at.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Where you fuck you want to go. That's it. Any aspect of your life. And that's what I do. So find me anywhere. Text me. Find me on my website or just like reach out on, I will start DM. My friends will give me shit about it.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I will start DMing, but you can actually be in touch. Sean, let's connect. And I'll meet you exactly where you're at and we'll create some magic in your life. It's that simple. I got 23 years of doing this and changing lives and seeing people's results. And it's beautiful to see what people get. So fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Well, thanks for joining us, brother. I appreciate it. As always. Thanks so much. Well, guys, if you listen to that today, man, number one, what a great guest, dude. I love having people on that bring the fire. And Sean definitely did that. And remember, whether you're using a bot, whether you're using a life coach, whether
Starting point is 00:53:46 you're just using your spouse, you know, the key to your personal happy. and probably advancing yourself as a human lies within you. And you gotta do the work to go figure out what that looks like for you. We'll see you next time. What's up, everybody? Thanks for joining us for another episode of Escaping the Drift. Hope you got a bunch out of it,
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