Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Good Advice or Bad Advice? EP 41

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

The Power Move Episode 41Learn and burn Entrepreneurship from serial entrepreneur John Gafford and his band of mayhem makers. From stripper poles to the oval office, business lessons are everywhere. T...his Week:Good advice or bad advice? When you are 80 years old, what advice would you give your younger self? We dive into just that this week. With Eric Gorton, Chris Connell and Colt Amidan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from the art of the deal to keeping it real live from the simply vegas studios it's the power move with john gafford back again back again back again for another exciting episode of the power move indeed with us today in the studio i am your your host, John Gafford. As always, to my left, Colt Silverware Fetcher, Amaden. I appreciate you bringing it. Yeah, well, your wife sent you to fetch silverware today, so that's what you call the Silverware Fetcher. Thank you. And we'll go with that. And as always with us in the studio, the counselor, Chris Connell.
Starting point is 00:00:44 How are you, sir? Living the dream. And guest sitting in with us today, man, power mega agent, an all-around good dude and personal bro, Eric Gordon. What's up, Gordon? How are you? Thanks for sitting in with us today, buddy. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Always a pleasure. So today on the Power Movement, we're going to talk about a lot of stuff, you know, because I just think people get a lot of bad advice. I think they get so much bad advice. And I saw know call it a meme call it a post call it what you will but it was kind of a it said advice from an 80 year old guy and i read it and i thought it was pretty good and i thought we would share some of that but you know so we're going to get into that in a minute more to my good advice you've gotten bad advice you've gotten over the years like hang out with colt that's bad advice give colt a segment we're talking about anything is bad advice but no but just things like that great great advice you can
Starting point is 00:01:29 go with on that on that aspect but let's start by some current events because you guys have going first of all do you guys is anyone not aware of the ponzi scheme going on in vegas right now you told me a little bit about it yeah so so here's here's which one we're talking about no here's where we're at. Is there one individual? No, no. You mean gambling? No, no. So here's where we're at.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I get a phone call last maybe Thursday or Friday, 730 in the morning, and it's from one of our escrow officers at Clear Title. And for all your title needs, Clear Title. So one of our escrow officers, and she says, Hey, the FBI is like outside our doors. And I go, What do you mean the FBI? Again? Yeah, she goes, the FBI's here. She goes, there's like a tank thing,
Starting point is 00:02:11 and there's like a bunch of dudes in FBI vests. I'm like, there's no reason they should be there, as I'm randomly scouring through my head every possible bad thing I may have ever done. My VPN was supposed to protect me from this. It was just everything I may have possibly done going forward. And I'm just scouring through this, and then I'm like, i'm like so she texts me back she goes okay they're not here for us i go what do you mean she goes well i went outside and i said to him i go hey uh can i move
Starting point is 00:02:35 my car and they go no don't worry about it and she's like you know should we be worried and the guy just looked at her and said ma'am we're the fbi if you can see us we're not here for you yeah it's like very little sneakier than all this. We're not going to have the rally meeting in front of the house we're about to raid. Anyway, so they all take off and they actually go up the hill into Ascaya, which is a very, very nice neighborhood at the top of the hill here in Henderson, Nevada. Now, oddly enough, the people that we carpool with, my wife shares drop-off pickup duty of children to school with, the house that was being raided was the neighbor's, was the next-door neighbor. So she's calling and says, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Now, terrible part of this, what was happening immediately was the first thing I hear about it is that there's a big wedding. Their daughter or son was getting married that weekend, and all of their extended family was at the house when the FBI hit it. Wow. So FBI comes looking in, bang, bang, bang. Turns out we're starting to put some stuff together. I hear it has something to do with buying out or advancing money on lawsuits that are pending, right? Big returns. I start thinking to myself, I'm like, man, I've heard something about this before. So I was like, my attorney had mentioned this at one point. So I call him, call one of my attorneys. And I say to him, hey, what's the name of that dude that you were, that was trying to get you to invest with money with him? And he said the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. And it was him. And I said, this is the guy. The FBI just kicked his door in. Right. And so from there, there was an article yesterday in the RJ about an attorney that was associated with this, that pulled a gun on the FBI. If you didn't see that Marshall's went to his house, he put a gun to his head, to his office, to his own head. And then, and then pointed at the cops at which point they shot him not fatally, but in the hospital. So now
Starting point is 00:04:21 he's going for that. And so as this starts to unravel, I did a post yesterday on the gram where I just said, hey, look, be careful in what you're investing in, you know, because we're always raising money for our real estate deals. And I said, look, if you can't touch it, walk it, feel it. Be careful with what you hear. And if the returns are too good to be sound, too good to be true, they probably are. That post alone, I probably got 30 messages last night from people saying, I have a friend that has a million dollars with that guy. I have friends that have, I mean, a lot of the lacrosse parents lost money with that guy.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I mean, it was like, this is going to wind up being a billion dollar Ponzi scheme. Dang. A billion dollars is going to evaporate because people got some bad advice. And here's how far reaching it is so this morning i get a i get a text message right with an image from the nevada secretary of state website showing an entity and that entity has the main guy who got rated his name you can say his name but below that beasley okay below it is the attorney who pulled a gun on the cops yesterday right is the registered agent of said llc and the third person is a guy's name that i had not seen
Starting point is 00:05:29 on this on this corporation whatever it was was pest control company like what was this so my buddy goes you might want to search your website for that guy's name so i search his name first thing that comes up this cat agent at simply vegas really yeah now grand i don't know this guy i don't know who he is he's only been here for like a hot second he's done one real estate deal and it was his own house up somewhere very quickly wait a second pest control yes a cllc it was under it was a pest control c so yeah so needless to say needless to say as soon as i saw this um he got we sent his license back i don't i want to steer clear of it which let that be a lesson steve's name paul i think it was i don't know i turned him on to the company oh no he's my pest control guy how is he
Starting point is 00:06:18 oh i don't know i turned him on to the company to this one yeah oh i don't know maybe maybe the views of eric do not represent the views no no but but my thing was you know but here's the point the point of it is this is if you think in this if you think in this country whatever there there's due process and all of those things here maybe these guys may get their day in court they may be able to figure out what it is but as a business owner i'm out like you're even remotely tied to this i'm gone i'm gone i don't want to do my pest control no no but i don't i don't think this guy now granted i don't think this guy he's got bigger problems than having his real estate license that he did his only one deal
Starting point is 00:06:54 which was his own deal to our company i think he's got bigger problems but do you know that that guy's involved in it i don't care if he was because he's a manager well i just because here's the thing like obviously you don't want the witches out right you don't want to you don't want if he was. Because he's a manager. Because here's the thing. Like, obviously, you don't want the witches out, right? You don't want the pitchforks out. You don't want to imply that somebody could be involved in something if they weren't, right? So even if, at the end of the day, what happens is being associated by stuff is enough to not want people to represent or be associated with you. But being on an LLC doesn't necessarily imply that you had any part to do with this other thing. No, 100%. doesn't necessarily imply that you had any part to do with this other thing 100 but if the only
Starting point is 00:07:25 other two people listed on these llc docs were people now implicated in this but was that company named no what was the company on the llc that lawyer was just an officer or that lawyer was just the lawyer was a registered agent yeah the main ponzi scheme dude was a member and this other guy was a member okay so because here's the thing right there's other companies like guy was a member. Okay, so because here's the thing, right? There's other companies. Like I'm a member of other LLCs for, you know, Rock Pro. Yeah. I'm a member of Rock Pro. So if my partner in Rock Pro was doing dirt, you know, it wouldn't mean my legal business is doing anything weird.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Right. I understand that, but it would. To the public. Yeah, but to the public, people would draw those. Totally agree. People would draw those. They would draw those lines. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But, you know, like I said, it's just one of those things where. Yeah. Look, I get it. But the point being is, and again, the guys, if you're in real estate, you work somewhere, you're an independent contractor. That's right. So your contract states I can turn to you for any reason I want. I instantly can.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah. So this is not violating any employment rules or laws that I'm doing. But just keep in mind that sometimes guilt by association can be as bad as guilt itself. Right. Oh, yeah. So you've got to have 360 vision. Understand who you're hanging around is you. Absolutely. You are that perception.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Because there's been times in my life when I've been left holding the bag of shite. Absolutely. And I've had to settle up seven figures because other people were not honest. And you pay the price and it is what it is. I just want to clarify that nobody's implying Paul was... No, nobody named Paul has done anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Can we just talk about... How horrible would it be to be shot by the FBI because you're trying to do a suicide probably by a cop? Why would you... Why is suicide by a cop supposed to just cops I mean I don't I don't why that's a preferred get a cigar get a cigar shoot yourself in this is a mental health week yeah no don't shoot yourself don't shoot the police how these guys are still doing Ponzi
Starting point is 00:09:19 schemes like isn't it easy enough to do... Well, this is... Like, that's a legit... That is a legit way to make money. All these Ponzi schemes, you can make... No, not... Ponzi schemes... No, no, let me finish. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Let me finish. I'm out of here today. All these Ponzi scheme people would be worth a lot of money if they did what they're saying they're doing. Legitly. The problem is there's no way to do what they say they're going to do. Absolutely. You could not tell me you could not go do this, what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I just want to point out that what I'm understanding is that this was tied into litigation funding. So here's how that works. And here's why it's easier at first to pawn people, scam people. But I'm telling you, you could do it legit and make some money. I tell all my clients not to use litigation funding. I don't use it as my law firm. I pay for all my litigation out of my own pocket. But sometimes litigation can be up in the half a million, million dollars
Starting point is 00:10:21 should you want your law firm tying up a million dollars pursuing litigation. Now, I pay for my own, but I thankfully have never had a million million dollars should you want your law firm tying up a million dollars pursuing litigation now i i pay for my own but i thankfully i've never had a million dollar case in cost for litigation that i fronted but there's companies out there that will loan you money if you have settlement money coming in and i have in my retainer agreement don't use them i can't loan or advance you any money that's not related to case cost specifically and also don't use these companies that are out there because the vig is insane like you're paying 50 of the money back you're giving them on interest for periods of time right there's people that are hard up and they have a rough go at life and they got rent i'd rather you paid rent and got a sweeter pot well these these guys were super slick in what
Starting point is 00:10:58 they were doing and how because because literally one of my attorneys was like look when they sent me this opportunity they sent me the case like it wasn't just like a pool I put money into. They sent me the specific cases. And he goes, I saw the case. He goes, I looked it up. I contacted the attorney. He said, yeah, this is how it's going. The problem was they would get a specific case and then sell it 50 times, 100 times. And you can do that in the short right? You can get a lot of bites at an apple before someone realizes you're in the apple orchard. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:11:28 They always get caught. So if you want to take your upfront, if you want to steal money, you can steal money with fraud upfront. There's a lot of people that commit fraud and get away with it for a while, but it always comes out. Well, let's ask this.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So do you think, part of me instantly goes to this when I think about this, is do you think these guys are like, you know what, man, I've lived a good life. I'm in my 50s. I've done it. I'm going to go ahead and set my kids up forever, and they're on almost the Balzarian plan. Because, you know, my son, who barely knows anything,
Starting point is 00:12:01 will become literally the greatest poker player in the world for one year and win $50 million, which nobody believes that really happened. But there you go. I mean, it's almost like that's the plan. I'm going to take a pinch. I'll put this away, and this is how we're going to get the money back out for the family the next generation. Yeah, I mean, maybe with crypto, right? Because now you can launder money a lot easier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:22 How much of that money has gone into crypto? Holy smokes. How would you ever know? How would know no way to track it yeah it turns out there are if you watch line goes up the problem then yes but the fbi and all those things it could be on some server in china through some nft bounced around 12 times okay different crypto i'll tell you that let's talk about this though let's talk about this because we had something else happen it's like legal it's like legal week here. So we had a situation where one of our agents here, I'll tell you a story.
Starting point is 00:12:50 This is an interesting story. One of our agents here sold a house, had a client come in that was a crypto whale. That's how they present themselves. I'm a crypto whale. I don't know what's going to happen with crypto. I don't really want anything in my name. Couldn't hook up with a hard money lender. This hard money lender agreed to buy a house for this client and then carry the
Starting point is 00:13:07 note for seven months. Nothing illegal about that perfectly happens every day. Um, dude, like a bridge finance deal for them. So the hard money lender bought the house and then kind of this guy kind of disappeared. They're like,
Starting point is 00:13:19 what's going on? He's supposed to be making option payments. He, he wired like $150,000 in option money for this property, and then he disappeared. Turns out, not a crypto whale. Turns out he's a dark web coke dealer and has been literally sending cocaine all over the planet through the mail for years.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And so he lost the option. And now his wife was trying to sue somebody. Vegas, I wonder what. The cement is that, don't matter. But the point of it is, I went through and I somebody. Vegas, I wonder what. The cement is that don't matter. But the point of it is I went through and I read the complaint, the US government against this guy, because I was just kind of interested, right? Dude, they followed this cat for years. The DEA followed him for years. And every time they were moving crypto, they had it. So if you think your crypto is anonymous, guess what? If the US
Starting point is 00:14:02 government wants to see what you're doing, they're going to find it. Of course. Because they were documenting every single one of his untraceable accounts. They had them all. They had everything. And that dude's going for a very long time. So don't think that just because you're in some deregulation, it's going to go that way. Bro, the United States government blew up the president of Panama on one of its planes
Starting point is 00:14:21 and then basically was like, yeah, fuck you. If you don't think the United States government was like yeah fuck you like if you don't think the united states government's gonna figure you out you think like yeah you think by using a signal and parlor whatever you're getting away from the grid some bad news they're gonna figure it out well let's get you know let's get into advice so first of all i'll go through this and i'll give you guys a chance to find we're not dying to hear the best and the best the worst worst advice just had it today eat a rice my worst advice? Just had it today. Eat a rice cake. How fucking horrible is that?
Starting point is 00:14:48 They're delicious. Have you? What? Rice cake? Rice cakes? Oh. That's what it was? It was not styrofoam.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It was a rice cake. No. Plain? No. Flavored? Yes. What do you mean flavored? This one was salted.
Starting point is 00:15:02 No, no, no. There's like white cheddar and then there's ranch flavored rice cakes. But doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of eating them? No, no, no. It's just a lightly flavored. Dust. I had one lightly salted and was lightly the greatest shit I've ever ate in my life. It was styrofoam.
Starting point is 00:15:21 No, it's delicious. No. Totally. Top three worst foods ever never cakes are wonderful is that you're going number one on that i'm no that's it's number three i don't mind them number three word snack no get out of here what's what are the worst three foods ever called number three now is uh rice cakes rice. You know what else was horrible? Kicks. Remember kicks? It tastes like kicks, too.
Starting point is 00:15:46 The cereal? Yeah, it tastes like nothing. Cottage cheese is awful. Oh, I love cottage cheese. The little pepper. Of course you do. I explained it. Of course you do.
Starting point is 00:15:56 The number one would be anything vegan. Oh, God. You are 100% wrong. Here's a shout out to the modern vegan on Paradise. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to tell you one thing. I'm going to tell you one thing. That Impossible Burger that they have now, I don't know what fucking-
Starting point is 00:16:09 It's impossibly good. What wizardry they went into it. It's impossibly good. But I had a client that was a vegan, and he wanted to go to a restaurant. So we went to this place. They said, we have the vegan Big Mac. And I haven't gone to McDonald's. I don't eat fast food.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. So I had the vegan Big Mac, and I ate it. I was immediately transported back to 1987. first time i ever remember having a big mac remember it was cool wonderful no wonderful and it was thirty dollars i i'm the worst yeah that's a problem with you something must die for every meal that i have something doesn't die it's not amazing and was 87's mcdon's, the greatest restaurant ever. With the clay pen outside. Oh, and a toy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 100%. That is great. Sorry, but rice cakes. Me and you are going to fight. McDonald's has a rice cake now. McDonald's has a rice cake now. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 The McFoam. It's called the McFoam. Or they just take the packing material with the cones coming. That's what they go with. I'm shocked, Chris. You disagree with me. No, I don't. For something about sometimes really things that are really bland and crunchy,
Starting point is 00:17:12 if it's just a little bit of flavor on them, I'm telling you, it's not as bad. Let me get you a flavored one. You'll change it. We'll do that next. Bring one next Tuesday. We'll eat it on air. I don't think we're going to have a rice cake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 When we want to lose the last of our listeners, we'll do a rice cake taste test live on the power move for the three of you still listening this is gonna do it you're gonna be gone after this that's all right i like the barbecue one the best it's delicious barbecue barbecues that tom hangs the food oh god all right so let's get into some advice here because uh shockingly we talked about nonsense for a solid 15 minutes but this was this little thing i'm going to combine some of these because they go together but like the first one says have a firm handshake and number two is look people in the eye sure and i think that is uh if you're going to teach your kids anything teach them this
Starting point is 00:17:57 and i'll say this because you know i had a couple different people come up to me at the party we had at my house a couple weeks ago and they said to to me, man, your son is just like a little man now. And I'm like, really? I'm like, that's like there's no better compliment you can hear as a father than your son's like a little man. And I went up and I said, man, somebody just said this about Hayden. My wife was like, oh, I told him to make sure he looked everybody in the eye, stood up straight, and shook their hand. I shook for a firm handshake. And I'm like, there you go.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I'm like, that's great advice. There's nothing worse than meeting somebody and getting wet noodle well can we though especially from a kid can we normalize the fist bump already is the fist bump oh i love that can we just normalize the fist bump i'm sorry i appreciate a good firm handshake i get it you know what just fist bump all right well hang on a second i will concede the fist bump for one thing yeah if you stand when people enter the room. Great. If you're sitting and somebody comes in, you should fucking stand up. I think there's a time and a place for a fist bump.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I don't think it's always. Like if you're meeting a girl's father for the first time, there's no fist bump. What's up, bro? If you're saying I'm sorry at a funeral, there's no fist bump. Most inappropriate places for a fist bump. I like this. Can we do it? This is better.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Top three Gorton's worst places for a fist bump? Yes. There's two. What's number one? The meeting of the girls' parents. That's two. What would be the number one worst place? I don't know, but yeah, funerals are the best spot for a fist bump.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Maybe meeting a president. Sorry about a president or foreign dignitary. Sorry about your loss and the hand goes out for the fist bump. Maybe a foreign dignitary. Yeah, the queen can't fist bump. Like when he's asking for the ball. Yeah. I like fist bumps. I'd rather hug than shake a hand.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Eric's got to be with us because Eric's just like me. He's kind of germaphobe like I am. I am. I appreciate a good fist pump. Touching a man's hand. When it's warranted, especially people I don't know. Like, you know, if a landscaper comes up, you want to say hello more than just a... Right? Give me a fist pump. You got to give me a little something. You know, I mean... Good hug.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Someone that you know really well or if you haven't seen him in a while or you're showing a sign of respect, there's no fist bump. When he comes out of the bathroom and his hands are still wet a little bit, then I'll shake his hand. That's proper. That's proper.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I know it was recently washed. Well, hopefully that means it was washed. Yeah, I was going to say, you don't know that. It's so funny. I'm scouring my brain right now for any place worse for a fist bump than a funeral. I think he nailed it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 He did, right out of the box. Girl's dad. Meeting a girl's dad. I don't know if I came up with that real quick i'm just saying if the hammer came over and give me a fist bump right out the gate it's like yeah you'd be like yeah no you're not you're not doing it next one or next two actually it says sing in the shower and own a great stereo system not overrated overrated i have airpods i have airpods bro i get 8k surround system infinitely better than any bullshit I have kids
Starting point is 00:20:47 I start playing live music they start complaining you know they want to hear we don't care about Bruno or whatever no no no but here's the point
Starting point is 00:20:55 and it's awesome here's the point here's the point though I think the point is you're hearing that is just go buy the giant boom system which is what you're hearing
Starting point is 00:21:04 I'm hearing that is invest in quality to enjoy the finer things in life. That's what I'm hearing. That's like a Henry Rollins. That's what I'm hearing. Henry Rollins has like 60,000 records or some shit. And like the toppest end of all stereo equipment possible in his house is fitted out. Straight hi-fi. Straight hi-fi.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Right from Buck's super hi-fi world. What was it? Boogie Nights. On the I-95. That's it. Call Bucks. With every turn deadly was it? On the I-95. That's it. Call Bucks. With every turn deadly, you get a free bowl. That's it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Are we just not going to talk about singing in the shower? No, singing in the shower. Go ahead, Colt. Don't do it. No? I can't sing. I am the worst singer. You don't like to do a shower?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yeah, I got an Alexa. You got it there? So I'll go with a playlist, and then I'll roll out. Dude, I'll tell you this. I'm a bad singer. When I whistle in the shower, my shower sounds like the damn Sistine Chapel. It is magical. Next time you come over, you're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:21:52 I've got to hear the whistle in the shower. We're not going to get there and soap each other up. But you can walk in the shower. Soap up, Gafford. Do you guys honestly not use the shower as a moment to make up arguments with nobody that's around and win them or lose them? All the time in my head. I'm sorry, wait, what? I'm with Chris on lose them all the time in the shower by myself
Starting point is 00:22:09 john and get all pumped like i've gotten worked up or i've like i've fucking dunked on people that don't exist i i could see him in the shower like cameron from ferris bueller's no they'll keep calling they'll keep quarreling i spend my shower time doing one of a couple things. Either just thinking about nothing, like a straight wah, wah, wah. Thinking about my day and pumping myself up for my day. Or talking myself out of the ridiculous reason I'm mad at my wife for the dream that I just had where we got in an argument. Oh, you're one of those, huh? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You know what she did to me last night? I don't know. You know what she did last night? This is what she did in my dream last night. Because, of course, we didn't go to Mardi Gras, so she was concerned about it, so we ended up going anyway. We went last minute, but we've already given our rides away. So I didn't ride in my parade.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I stayed home, and then she went up. You know what she did? She rode in her parade. And then she was like, well, there's an extra spot, so I just did it. Oh, I woke up. I was ready to murder. Woke up, looked at her. I'm like, you're just- Did she apologize to you? Keep sleeping. No, she didn't apologize to me in her parade. And then she was like, well, there's an extra spot, so I just did it. Oh, I woke up. I was ready to murder. Woke up, looked at her. I'm like, you're just.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Did she apologize to you? Keep sleeping. In real life? No, she didn't apologize to me in real life. She never does. She never does. Shameful. Never.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Never. Terrible. Anyway, moving on to the next one. Keep secrets. It says you should do. Be good at keeping secrets. Very much so. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Very important. That is. That's top three right there. And when you don't keep a secret secret what you're doing is you're making you responsible for my secrets now like let's say i let's say somebody has some juice or some dirt and i go okay you can't tell anyone this blah blah blah blah blah now i've got it off my chest and you're fucked because you're the one that has to hold it now or your character is at risk and then you go tell someone tell and that gets back that nobody keeps secrets. Yeah, it never goes well.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Secrets is huge. That's why 9-11 wasn't an inside job. Now, see, this one I'm going to disagree with. It says, never give up on anybody. Miracles happen every day. Yeah, give up on people, guys. They'll drain you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They'll drain your head. I'm going to disagree with that one. Yeah. A bit of bad advice I heard. Yeah, that's a bad piece because here's the deal. Fool me once, you heard the old thing, whatever. Say when life gives you lemonade, say fuck the lemons and bail. That's it.
Starting point is 00:24:08 No, dude, you get one. You get two chances, right? You might have a bad thing. People have certainly died. Yeah, two chances. But I would say, like I always tell people, when people show you who they really are, believe them. Believe them.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They're not lying to you when they show you who they are. That's a really bad advice. Yep. Always accept an outstretched hand. No. No, you don't think so? It'll pull you back sometimes. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Is that like if somebody says, is that like a handshake, always shake their hand? No. I know you ain't doing that. You need a help. You need a helping hand. Always accept help, because a lot of people have a hard time
Starting point is 00:24:43 sometimes accepting help, which is true. But not all help is help you want. No. There's some truth to that. I mean, you've got to make sure there's no ulterior motives and everything. But I think a lot of people would be a lot further in where they are if they would have the ability to even ask for help for people. People's ego gets in the way. You've got to ask for help, but not always.
Starting point is 00:25:02 You don't always take it. And just like you said, look, our room right here, if I asked Eric for help, Chris, you for help, you guys would truly mean that help. Yeah, I'd help you. If I went out to, you know, 50 people out there, 30 of them are going to be like, what's in it for me? And kind of screw you. Or if 50 people came up to you offering to help,
Starting point is 00:25:21 you want to pick and choose. That's an intervention. Yeah. 50 people show up, that's an intervention. That's a whole other problem. that's an intervention yeah yeah 50 people show up that's an intervention that's a whole nother problem that was hilarious did you guys see that see the snl monologue from last weekend what's his name what's john maloney john maloney yeah he says uh walked into a room and uh you know there's a bunch of my friends there and he goes you know you're on a bunch of drugs when you open it when the first thing you think when you see a bunch of friends in a room is,
Starting point is 00:25:46 man, this is an intervention for me. First thing you see. And he goes, I got to the point of the steps when you have to break up with your drug dealer, right? So he goes, my main drug dealer, I text him and he's like, hey, I'm sober now. I'm not going to be doing more drugs. So I'm going to delete your number.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And he's like, but I'm a nice guy. So I'm like, but I appreciate all of your quick and prompt service over the years and he goes he goes before he goes before i could even block the guy he sends me back i'm so proud of you and it was like i thought that was really weird for a drug dealer to send me i'm so proud of you and i was like you know he's like yeah that means and then he texts me immediately after he's like that means that I don't have to go buy drugs anymore. He's like, what? He goes, yeah, the only reason I was buying drugs is because I was scared you were going to find them,
Starting point is 00:26:30 so you were going to get a bad patch or something off the street. And he's like, wait a second, are you a drug dealer? He's like, no, I'm a painter. He's like, do you sell drugs to anybody else but me? And he said, no. He's like, how did this come to be? And he's like, well, you just kept asking. That was great.
Starting point is 00:26:49 That was one of the best. Always accept help. Yeah. Oh, my God. So great. You got to watch it. It's hilarious. So great.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Next one. Be brave even if you're not. Pretend to be. No one can tell the difference. I like it. I like that, too. I think there's a big difference between you know having courage and being brave yeah you know having courage is being scared and doing anyway i think being brave is just being too dumb to understand understand the danger and
Starting point is 00:27:14 kind of like one of the power ones yeah it is power one that list was awesome we should still go to the power one you're cold just wants to end so that was. Yeah, the 48 laws of power where Colt only found the evil in that show. Did you realize he's probably got a short list of countries that he's planning on taking over one day? He definitely is. He definitely is. I don't mean democratically. I think personally you can show some weakness, but in life and business, you can't show weakness. No, I think, look, I think vulnerability is one thing.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's one thing to show weakness and vulnerability are separate things. They are. Number 10, whistle. In the shower. Yeah, you know what? In the shower would be good. I think that just means that, you know. Does it really say whistle?
Starting point is 00:28:02 It says whistle right there. But again, see, I'm trying to project meaning into these like one word names. Hold on. This is like carry a pocket of Werther's Originals. No. How old is... Oh, those are amazing. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Those are great. No, no, no. We're going around the room. I want to see who can whistle. Play the Ying Yang Twins whistle. Let's hear your whistle. No, I can whistle, but I need my shower to get the full effect. But the point of it is this. I think, what do you gain when you whistle what do you get happiness
Starting point is 00:28:29 you are moderating your own mood i think it's hard to be in a pissed off mood and walk around whistling right so i think it's one of those actions you can i think it's one of those takes you can take an action that then puts you in a in a state it's monitoring your own state by do it by taking is there an asterisk there that says by yourself no people are walking around the mall there's nothing there's no you should be able to punch somebody in throat for that one yeah good one just saying yeah and then this is this is just not going to go along at all with this is avoid sarcastic remarks oh boy i boy. Well, hold on. I actually think there's a lot of value in that.
Starting point is 00:29:07 In the sarcastic remarks? Well, here's the thing. Like, with your friends and stuff like that, but it's easy to fall into a trap of negative becoming normalized. I really believe that, right? You'll have friendships or whatever where, oh, guys just break each other's balls. But it's like at some point it becomes insidious where if the reaction is if the reaction is always sarcastically at some point you're like do you even like me like are we because you don't because it's got to be sprinkled in when it's funny and appropriate i i
Starting point is 00:29:33 had a conversation yesterday i went to lunch i went to lunch with one of my partners uh gavin who owns simply vegas with and gavin is a phenomenal partner he's a great partner to me but i always cracked everybody i was i would and it was just really just a joke saying that gavin doesn't do anything his job here is just kind of be pretty and sell expensive houses that's his job like i do everything else and i've been saying that shit for years right just as a joke not thinking anything of it sarcastic remark and yesterday at lunch he said can you please stop saying that it really bothers me yeah no and i was like wow i mean i never would think in the world that would bother me.
Starting point is 00:30:07 No shit. And I felt terrible. And I was like, bro, you know I never. I mean, dude, we run this company equally and do everything together. And I felt terrible that just something stupid like that. But it's true, man. You're just something that you think is so benign and so stupid. You really can.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You can hurt somebody else that you love and it does good things for you so so yeah it's not only friends business partners but family you can anybody anybody like kids eat that shit up and they do like now all of a sudden it plays with them yeah well positivity is is essential it is essential and i tell you what's what's really gotten bad what's bad in my house is now they had this so the 90-day fiance thing if you haven't watched this disaster on andy you probably don't my wife loves this stuff where you have guys go across season and trying to marry these women whatever that guy made my gun so yeah so he's the reason that i can't say hey just google colt from las vegas oh right right right right right what so it's
Starting point is 00:31:00 so it's one of those things so it's one of those things. So it's one of those things where, but now they got, they do something called pillow talk where they've got the show going and they cut in people that used to be on the show now talking about the show. So the whole thing is just talking shit about other people as you're watching it and you get, and you get sucked, right. You get sucked into it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 So now me and my wife are like, yes, you just start to harp it in. And you're like, bro, this is not like we're sitting here making fun of people we don't know and this is not nothing nothing there's nothing productive about that one no i i've been really being mindful of um cutting people out when it's appropriate not becoming just constantly sarcastic trying to consider you know how other people take things or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I think it's big to do that. We had this conversation last week. Yeah. Sitting at my desk. Yeah. What did you give up for Lent? Yeah. I gave up negative thinking. That's what I told him.
Starting point is 00:31:55 That's what I gave up for Lent. Negative thinking. Well, we're going to come back in a minute. It's going well. It's going well. We're going to take a quick break. My wife applauds me, too, because it's you know, it's easy in this business, especially in this business, to get caught up in the negativity.
Starting point is 00:32:10 To shit on everything. Yeah. A series of things where it's 10 bad things to one good thing. And luckily, you know, the weights and balances shifts all the time, so it's not always like that. But it's easy to get caught up in negativity. Oh, yeah. Well, we are going to come back, and what I'm going to read, I guarantee you,
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Starting point is 00:33:05 Thanks so much. So when we left, we were just talking about great advice or bad advice as we read it from some stuff. And I love this one, number 12. It says, choose your life's mate carefully from this one decision will come 90% of all of your happiness or your misery. Walk off home run. Yeah. Total home run. So you've been on both sides of that coin
Starting point is 00:33:26 counselor sure have sure so i assume everybody's dated yeah i was going to say i think we all have you know maybe not gordon no dude dude gordon sent us a picture today literally from 1988 for those of you 88 for those of you who were keeping it real in 88 uh where's it at and it says this is what me and the bird looked like in 88 and it was uh you guys together then oh dude yes yes that's here we met yes dude look at that that is strong i'm gonna get i'm trying to get i can't really get a close-up on it but yeah there's eric right there and it's looking like a child with uh with shelly gorgeous wife she looked like like seriously she looked like cindy crawford yeah she did bro it's like mca was still alive the
Starting point is 00:34:09 beastie life was better what a day to be alive i mean but like chris said i think we both are both all been on maybe not gordon but bad relationships and that shit will drain you tear you apart tear you apart you Tear you apart. You know, as you go through it, one of the things that I saw was, and this is an interesting thing. And I've thought a lot about this as I saw it. But it said, you know, you got to make sure. And I think a lot of people make this mistake. You're marrying your wife's finances as well or your husband's finances.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of people, you know, everybody says marry for love and for no reason. I think you got to have some common sense in that and i think a lot of bad marriages come out of that situation where they don't understand that well so everybody that would talk about marriage what are we doing with marriage it's a religious tradition it's a civil tradition it's a financial tradition right it's a contract with the state that says i will do x you will do y right it comes with different benefits for that.
Starting point is 00:35:05 If you just love the person and you don't want to commingle funds, just date them. You don't need to get married just because you've been together a long time. And anybody that has that false understanding of why people get married, right, should maybe reevaluate what's going on. That's some advice. Well, I think if you come from like Erica, deeply religious Catholic background, I think that getting married is more than those things. I think it's a union you're looking to make under the under under the eyes of god yes no yes and you know it was it's taken on such a whole new meaning as i've gotten
Starting point is 00:35:37 older because when i was young i was bred to believe this is what needs to be done step one step two step one step two step three you get married young. You have children young. And then you go through. Buy a house three blocks away from the mom's house. And at that point, seriously, when I started dating Michelle, I thought I'd be in New York forever. So it's certainly evolved into something that we know. And bear in mind, we've been together this June 18th. My wife and I will be together 30 years.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's crazy. But there's been a series of peaks and low valleys. You'll actually have a 50th wedding anniversary at some point. Wow. That's crazy. I'll never get that. We'll be married 27 years from now. Or if I do, I won't know about it.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'll be wheeled out there. Yeah, exactly. I'll be drooling on myself if I ever get to that point. And I think a lot of people just marry to marry. They're there to feel companionship. Because they feel like they need to. People have kids because they feel like they're obligated to have kids, and they shouldn't, right?
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's a series of keeping up with the Joneses, too. You have 10 friends that have been married. You're the last person on the totem pole. Dude, how often do you look at some people? And this is going to sound terrible, and I hate to be judgy, but sometimes you just meet some people and you take a look at them, and you're like, bro, you guys should not have four kids oh there's just nothing about at least five times a day we're talking about getting away from negative yeah yeah yeah it's like does the world
Starting point is 00:36:54 really need four more of you like bill burr says just because you look at a wall of these family trees and they had four kids and they had four kids because he goes i don't recognize a single one of you never did he did shit stop making that guy over and over again we don't need that guy the plant's closing down we don't need four more guys in the middle of traffic doesn't get in to let you pass on the yellow light or whatever like we didn't need that guy and there's our blowing avoid sarcastic we tried for a couple minutes uh make it a habit to do nice things for people who will never find out i think that's interesting is that i mean how practical is that though it's not practical at all but it's you still feel good right being charitable like charity that whole jack london thing right i i do i do like doing here's the thing though i'd rather see
Starting point is 00:37:43 i want to see the joy that people experience when I do nice things for them. That's the payoff for me. Here's something that's toxic in charity and philanthropy is that people go. The cell phone? No, no, no. People that go, hey, go do charity without telling them when you're doing charity. And I go, every time I see someone doing charity, it makes me think, hey, maybe I should go do more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It's one of those things. But isn't there a line though though, with the cell phone? I don't care why people do it. Hey, we're going to go out and give this guy $100. I hate that. It's like, at the end of the day, to me, the ends justify the means at all costs. I'll tell you what I do like. A bunch of my friends in Utah have been doing this lately, and I do love this.
Starting point is 00:38:21 It started with $100. We'll get like 30 guys together, and they'll all go out to dinner and they all tip $100. They all tip $100. And they just give it to the waitstaff. And then now they've been doing $1,000 dinners.
Starting point is 00:38:31 They go out, I mean, they gave a $30,000 tip the other night. Wow. That's life. Dude, if somebody's waiting tables
Starting point is 00:38:37 in Utah, that's life changing. I mean, at least you're changing. Yeah. Yeah, it's your change. You can buy a house
Starting point is 00:38:43 with it all of a sudden now you're in a real estate game. Yeah. Which I thought was- At least you're changing. Yeah. Yeah, it's your change. You can buy a house with it. All of a sudden, now you're in a real estate game. Yeah. Which I thought was... At least upgrade a car. Yeah. Yeah. Or get decent transportation.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Your kids' braces, whatever. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Put that on a hand of blackjack. Yeah. Lend... Is it a rice cake? Of course.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Turn that 30 into 60, baby. That's it. No, do not do that. The thoughts and feelings of Cole D'Amandon do not reflect those of the power move. Do not go gambling. Yeah, don't do blackjack. Go put it on first 12 of roulette. Stop.
Starting point is 00:39:13 60 to 180. Roulette, baby. No, do not do that. That's terrible. Make a habit. No. Lend only those books you never care to see again. Do you give books to people?
Starting point is 00:39:27 I give books out, and I give out the books that I would be happy to buy again. Yeah. I agree with that. I give out books all the time because if it's a book I'm giving you, it means I just bought three Sophie's Choices. And it's just like there's people I know that should read them. Sophie's Choice? Yeah. Absolutely. That book is Did it say to give away the one
Starting point is 00:39:50 good? No, give away the books you never expect to see again. If you think you have a good vocabulary go read Sophie's Choice and let me know if that wasn't just one of the most challenging. I could read it then. No, but anyway. But anyway, there's all these books. Replay by Grant Ken Grimwood I've probably bought five times. Yeah. I've sent it as. No, but anyway. I'd have to listen to it. But anyway, there's all these books.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Replay by Grant Gann Grimwood I've probably bought five times. Yeah. I've sent it as a gift 10. I bet Obstacle is the way I bought 25 copies of that book. It's a great book, and everybody should have it. Everybody should have it. You know, so. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Obstacle. Obstacle's Away. The Obstacle's Away by Ryan Holiday. I probably. A couple of plays. Can we do a little power move advice? Yeah. What's the power?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Go ahead. C. As I say C. What is it? C. The point is, look, this is just some old cranky man. This will be made of me. We can drop the goodness in it. to do a little power move advice yeah what's the part go ahead see as i say see what is it see the point is look this is just some old cranky man somebody made a meal we can drop the goodness here's the best advice i was thinking about the other day is that see wisp pack them
Starting point is 00:40:32 parabellum in order for peace prepare for war okay yeah in life i'm constantly preparing for war that i'm never gonna ever face for peace yeah. In the shower you will though. Well, again, case in point, case in point. Looking to deal today in Utah, in St. George, we're going to build a bunch of houses up there, right? Took down the lots today. Everything's moving forward. It's good.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And as I'm sitting with my partners going through the plans and we're looking at everything, everything, everything, the financing, looking at all the deal points on it, I said, where is it if the market turns on us because st george is going to stop like vegas will be a slow turning market when the market turns here it'll be like the titanic that's going to be like a car hitting a wall yeah in st george because there's no there's no economy there there's no reason for people to be there people are buying houses here because the economy's good that's it and so i said what what happens when that happens? And one of my partners said, well, no, no, no, we just got to charge for it. We're doing this or not. I mean, we'll take our lumps when it happens. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:41:31 that's not a good enough answer. We've got to model out this disaster because that's how you stay calm in the eye of the storm. That's how you stay that. You don't want that to happen, but you've got to mentally prepare for the worst possible scenario. You're not underwriting your deals that way. You are going to be. I've been to bars before. I've been to bars before with the guys that do martial arts with different gyms over years. And I remember one time I went to a gym.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I went to a bar after martial arts. And I was with some really, really tough guys. And a couple of the guys started trying to pick a fight with the table. I can't remember what it was for, but it was really innocuous. And I remember everybody at that table was perfectly calm. Wasn't any, you know, pounding chests or puffery or whatever. And these guys were totally wrong. There was two of them.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And they were probably drunk and just creating a scene. And everybody at that table that had just literally prepared for war was the most peaceful. Just, hey, you know what? We're good. Don't worry about it. No ego. And you know, you're like, I kind of want them to get up and murder these guys.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You're like, we are not going to beat these people up now. Why are we not going to beat them up? And by we, I mean me standing in the back going, yeah. That's going to be my contribution to the barroom ball. People are prepared for war. They're a lot more open to peace. Yeah, 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So model everything out. I think that's a great piece of advice. Great piece of advice. Loosen up, relax, except for rare life and death matters. Nothing is as important as it seems. This is a great piece of advice I give people all the time which we talk about you know memento mori which is my favorite little stoic saying which means death comes first song really translates to death is coming whatever we all die everybody dies remember death remember death everybody dies and you know like like your son
Starting point is 00:43:19 gorton jr right it comes to me it's like man i said but brother you're too you're too you got too much anxiety about things. You stress out too much. And I said, here's a good exercise for people that have too much anxiety. I said, next time something happens that just crushes your world in or you feel is crushing your world in, take a second and just write it. Like schedule 30 days from today. Go into your calendar and schedule an appointment for yourself
Starting point is 00:43:41 and just write out the problem. And 30 days from today when that pops up on your calendar, you're going to be like, oh dude, I don't even remember that anymore. And I said, and once you start to see that enough, enough of those, I don't remember that anymore. You're going to start to realize that when these things happen, that nothing is going to end the world for you. It's just not going to be, you take shit too seriously. So I do love that piece of vest, which is good. Yeah, there's not a problem I had two years ago that I still have today. No.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Luckily. No. Well, I professionally manage people's problems, right? Problems, yeah. So I do have things that, you know, there's legitimate problems that get created. All of them have resolved themselves between all parties. Yeah. I could never be an ER doctor because you are dealing with life and death.
Starting point is 00:44:26 You are. That would eat me alive. Is that the reason you could ever be an ER doctor? It's a personal choice. Is that what we're going with? You know what? Guess what? There is four people here and 50% of them have college degrees.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. Actually, I don't know if Eric does. Has what? A college degree. I do not have a college degree. I'm a step closer to being an ER doctor than you are. You are one step closer
Starting point is 00:44:56 than I am to being an ER doctor. I was an emergency room EMT when I was 18. I did my practicum there. I was an EMT though. Can we all just agree that I was 18. I did my practicum there. I was an EMT, though. Can we all just agree that I was an AEMT able to advance narcotics into people in the back of their hands.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So at the end of the day, though, working in the ER is probably one of the most depressing things I've ever done. And you know what? People, you know, thinking back when I was a kid, I want to be a fireman. I want to be a fireman. You see some turmoil being a fireman and a cop, man. Those are not easy careers.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And these guys are so underpaid and so underappreciated that the world should be ashamed of themselves the way most of these guys get treated. Firefighters? Firefighters. You pull up. You pull up. People love firefighters, but some people hate firefighters. Firefighters.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I've never heard of any. Who hates a firefighter? Who hates a firefighter? Who hates a firefighter? In New York, at some points, they used to go after firemen and basically sabotage their gear, their trucks and stuff. Those were cops. No, no, no. They were cops.
Starting point is 00:45:56 They were the firemen because they were condemning these vacant apartment buildings, closing down the crackdowns and the drug houses and stuff like that. They're first responders, so they're in a dangerous position for sure. They could not pull up to a car wreck. It's gross. Plus, when you're dealing with family on scene,
Starting point is 00:46:16 and you're not getting any information, or you're treating somebody, they can't get close to them. Believe me. Firemen are widely recognized in society as people that are helpful. somebody that they can't you know get close to them that's believe me oh i'm in here but firemen are widely recognized as society is as people that are helpful the kitten in the tree it's yeah kitten in the tree that's the visual that's the visual you want you ever check out a fire you ever check out a firefighter's pay in clark county they make good money they're making
Starting point is 00:46:39 they make good money well it's hard to get on car it's hard to get on Clark County. Is there a better profession that has a better... Like lifestyle? No, just like hero look at them. I'd like to think that cops and lawyers and real estate agents are thought of in a similar way as society. That's why I came to DataStyle. I was going to become a fireman. I took the test, and by that time when I got called,
Starting point is 00:47:00 I was already in the casinos. You were already there. I didn't go. Already doing that. Next one on here says, be a good good winner be a good loser totally i think um agreed nothing what's what's worse a bad winner or a bad loser ask ask uh ask britney mahomes ask pat mahomes wife and brother did you see that video of him just over it at a game oh yeah next to him he was just like and she looks to the side. She's like, like that.
Starting point is 00:47:27 You know what she said? You know what he said to her? What she said? No, but I'm dying to know. Oh, that's great. Patrick Mahomes looks at his wife and goes, would you knock off the resting bitch face? And she goes, and that's what she turns and goes, he told me not to drop my resting bitch face.
Starting point is 00:47:42 She's like, does that face? I'm like, God god he's got to know better how long before okay say how long is this gonna last patrick's wife i think he's over it i think he's i think he had a kid with her you think he's probably already talked to the attorney like okay what's this gonna look they're not married oh my what are you doing they're not married what are you doing he's they just had a kid together. Oh, boy. True love. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah, true love. It must be true love because the entire world hates this chick. It's terrible. Oh, man. When someone hugs you, let them be the first to let go. No. No. Because you might have somebody else.
Starting point is 00:48:19 This is old man. This is where there's an original in the pocket. Yeah. No. Creepy old man hugging you and sniff the original in the pocket. Yeah. No. The old man hugging you. Because what happens if two people read this and then now you're hugging forever? How's that work? And that's not something I ever thought about, but no, I don't agree with that.
Starting point is 00:48:38 You quit when the erection hits the inside of your head. Okay. Male hug, you got to do the hips out. You got to. There's a lean in, hip out. Hit got to. There's a lean in hip out. Hit hips first. That's how me and Chris go in. Cole, you do not lead with the hips on a man hug. Oh, me and Chris are going hips first, man.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I don't even know if our tops touch. In a good sword fight, Colt, there's no reason to. Don't let go, Chris. It feels so good. You guys just hold each other's hands and kind of twirl in a circle. Slow motion, the fan comes out. And we're getting canceled for that, but of course, yep, that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Beware the person who has nothing to lose. I agree with that. I agree with that. Putin. I say this all the time, John, as an attorney. Eric, don't do business with losers. Oh, I agree. It's like getting in a fight with a gang member. They have nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:49:31 They'll kill you. Our whole justice system is predicated on the principle that at the end of the day, somebody has something to lose, right? Yeah. Now, if I'm doing business with you and you have nothing to lose, I can't sue you for nothing. There's nothing you can get done with somebody that has nothing to lose, right? Don't pick a fight with people who are losers and have been to jail and don't mind it.
Starting point is 00:49:52 This is something I literally, this is something I feel like I have to explain this to one of our people once a week when a lawsuit or something comes up or we get threatened in a lawsuit. Well, we didn't do anything wrong. We didn't do anything wrong. While I completely agree with you, that is not what we're talking about right now. Talking about what do we have to lose. Yeah, because the point is, it doesn't matter if we did something wrong. We're still going to have to pay to defend this thing. There's still a deductible on our E&O insurance.
Starting point is 00:50:14 There's still a lot. I mean, this could still cost us a truckload of money, even though we did nothing wrong. Because you have something to lose. Even if we win, we're still going to have to pay for all of this. Because they can't pay because they're losers. Because they can't pay because they're losers because they can't pay because they're losers so yeah which is which why do attorneys do that why do attorneys take case with people that they know can't pay them well because here's the thing if you want a bit of a you know i'm not trying to show the magicians never show the cards right yeah but at the end of the day when you look at something you go hey it doesn't cost me a lot in terms of my time just to send the end of the day, when you look at something, you go, hey, it doesn't cost me a lot in terms of my time.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Just to send the demands. To roll the dice. If you come back at it and say, go fuck yourself. And I say, well, now you have to pay me to go forward. If they don't and can't, that's the end of it. If they can, now you've got to figure out, okay, what does that look like? How are we going to do this? So that's the whole issue with contingency versus hourly. Because if I'm incentivized hourly to pursue all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:51:09 if you have someone that can pay. If not, there's no incentive to go to war for people that can't pay you. Yeah. No, there's not. I love this next one. It says, be bold and courageous. When you look back on life, you'll regret the things you didn't do more than the things that you did. And I know, is 100 your ethos on the planet every day of my life
Starting point is 00:51:30 every single day um wait so let's go around colt what something that you wish you'd done haven't done whatever because because i'm going to give you a good point for this good um i think that what i will hopefully do is but i'm mad i haven't yet a fund for real estate stuff that's that's what it is okay that's the number one professionally probably the only professional that's everything else you're good with yeah you're good life's great man yeah i've been very happy good gordon what about you what's the one thing like you wish you would have done which you haven't done yet i have a couple of regrets yeah and i made a few what do you got um so number one i wish i would have traveled around the world by myself before i had responsibilities obligations and not that i don't think i think i've uh i i didn't rush into my life
Starting point is 00:52:29 i feel like i uh didn't think about it before i got into it because i knew what i always wanted and i'm so glad the way it turned out however i think that there was more that i wanted well see me see it's so funny because me and gitz talk about you and shelly all the time not always flattering but i'm just kidding but what we talk about you and Shelly all the time. Not always flattering, but I'm just kidding. But what we talk about is because you guys got together so young and had your kids so young, and now, like, Mikey's 26 tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Maddie's 24 now. 22, whatever, but they're grown and out of the house and gone, but you and Shelly are now at a place where you are young, fit, healthy enough that you can go do whatever you want to do yeah you know me and gidge did a lot of whatever we wanted to do before we got married in our mid-30s and had kids but you know by the time my kids are 25 years old i'll be mid to late you know i'll be old i'll be in my mid to late 60s now granted
Starting point is 00:53:22 with my high level of income and the advances of modern you know science I have to probably live to be 200 to 40 years old so we talk about that a lot no but but it's just it's it's just different so you know but here's you know I look at this way a lot of my younger days or a lot of time when I was younger I was not necessarily in the best financial situation so I couldn't just go do whatever i wanted to do so would it would it be better to be young and be struggling and hostile and yeah you could still get around and people do it all the time saying the eight dollar night thailand hostile and lose a kidney whatever it is but eight dollars or be where you're at now because literally is there any place on the planet right now that you couldn't afford to go no no you can literally go you can stay at any hotel
Starting point is 00:54:06 five star to buy whatever you want around the globe and not even it's not going to make a difference in your life right it's not the cost won't make a difference we talk about that a lot but now it's like you know yeah no we can absolutely travel right but it's what my mindset was my regret was i i wish i would have taken a couple of years. Yeah, just to yourself. Just to myself. And kind of. Bartending the Caymans. Just anything that came up.
Starting point is 00:54:32 You could be on a beach one day or at a mountaintop the next. Or the next month, whatever it be. But ultimately. You'd be probably selling ready-made yurts or something right now. But here's the question. let's dig deep on this do you think you had the brass really when you were 21 to just throw a backpack on and crow across the country i do i did not i didn't i didn't because i was raised by a a pillar of a woman right that gave me the you know it's it's not what people are feeding their kids with in with right now for the participation trophy and everybody's, you know, it, you know, exceptional in their own,
Starting point is 00:55:09 right. She truly walked that walk and promoted it to me every day. So I could have done anything that I wanted. In my mind, that was kind of my fulfillment growing up because my mother kind of gave me the reinforcement that I can achieve anything that I want to do. However, because of the society around me, I not only listened to my mother, but I was acknowledging and witnessing other people that have done it before me that I admired so much. Like my uncle Mike, when he passed away, my aunt and uncle, who he was like the guy who stepped in as my father, married 66 years, loved each other like you wouldn't believe like teenagers at 80 years old they were like so these are the people that i wanted to emulate and kind of do that and i think you guys are doing that doing that what about you counselor so you know my whole thing but you know at 17 though i did move out to the mountains by
Starting point is 00:56:01 myself without any money like i had the stones to go do it. I just didn't know you could go do it outside of that small window of what was available in my small town, small area. So for me, the older I got, the more I realized how big the world is. It became very important for me to travel it. So I've been to 42 countries, been to 46 states, and it's only because no one's stopping me.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And I do stuff all the time because no one's stopping me. And one day- do stuff all the time because no one's stopping me. And one day. We need a new adventure. We need a new adventure. We've gone to archaeological digs in Egypt. I got my pilot's license. I've climbed Kilimanjaro.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I've run with the bulls. I want to do absolutely everything. And I realized probably too late. I probably didn't have a lot of people doing a bunch of stuff around me. That the world's not that difficult. You can just go do it. No one stops you. It's not as expensive as you think.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's not as time-consuming as you think. Think of all the weekends you've sat there and sat at home and watched Netflix or whatever. All that time you could have gone on a couple. It's not that hard to get to Europe. It's just a couple hours. It's just a while that Americans probably have the easiest way to travel right out of any country
Starting point is 00:57:06 for us no just us to jump into Mexico to jump across like it's so easy for us and we don't right like we don't and I still I don't have desire to do that stuff well people always say this thing too they go I can't go to Europe I don't have $10,000 I'm like you don't need
Starting point is 00:57:23 $10,000 you don't need $10,000 fly to Italy on a $450 flight my buddy I can't go to Europe. I don't have $10,000. I'm like, you don't need $10,000. You don't need $10,000. Fly to Italy on a $450 flight. My buddy and I one time grabbed a rental car. We drove around, hit like eight or nine countries. We had lunch in Bratislava. We went to some ruin bars in Budapest. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:57:40 It was a great trip. Totally inexpensive. I love the ruin bars. It was so much fun. We should all go run them with the bulls. You just said it. Yeah, you should. I be fun no one's stopping you it doesn't cost any money it's free you know like for me for me i'll tell you mine is and i'm carrying it right now which is this is going to sound really stupid compared to this but the reason i i want it to sound stupid to people because there's a lot of things that you probably want to do in your life that ego is stopping you from doing because you don't want to look stupid learning to do them. That's pretty much that
Starting point is 00:58:09 is that is such a massive part of my life is I don't want people looking at me while I do that. I don't look like an idiot. And I'm just finally got to point my life when I'm over it. So, you know, I grew up in Florida, lived there my whole life, grew up water skiing, grew up skating, all that stuff. Never really took the time to invest in learning how to surf. Now I got the house in Newport. I'm literally 400 feet from one of the best breaks in all of Southern California. I looked it up yesterday, man, surf school. I'm going to get private lessons.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm learning to surf. That's what I'm doing. Greatest workout. I don't care how stupid I look standing on the damn beach. I'm going to do it. Greatest workout. What's that? Yeah, him and I took surf lessons in Huntington.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I've been surfing Hawaii in Huntington. Yeah. We took surf lessons, and we both were absolutely dog shit at them. Terrible. But it was still fun. I still think I'm like, I'm going to go take some more surf lessons. Yeah. No, no.
Starting point is 00:58:55 It's fun. It's good. To me, the sharks scare me. Sharks don't care about you. There's no sharks? There's no sharks that you got to worry about. They don't care about you. In Florida, they care about you. There's probably 600 people died in a car in Los Angeles trying to get to the beach.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And he's worried about the one shark bite that happened in South Africa. Did you guys see the guy from Australia get eaten? Oh, God. He's in Australia. Australia? It doesn't matter. Worry about sharks in the tip of South Africa and in parts of Australia. And in Florida.
Starting point is 00:59:25 They get bit in Florida. Montauk. And California. There you go. Are we just going to name the whole world? Because you'll get bit everywhere. California, that water. Sharks don't really have an interest in biting people.
Starting point is 00:59:36 They're not hunting you. No. Just saying. Just saying. I've seen jaws to many times. Be brave. Oh, boy. Never waste an opportunity to tell someone that you love them.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I love that. Love it. Yeah, that's good. If you don't, when I was young, I saw a lot of death, crazy death. I saw two of my friends get their heads chopped off in a freaking car wreck, stuff like that. If you don't realize that leaving your house is dangerous every day, people, the sharks. Like, if you don't realize that leaving your house is dangerous every day, you know, people.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Sharks. The sharks, yeah. No, but, you know, my regret is not saying I love you to people I've died. Like, that's the only regret I have. Yeah, I just got into a motorcycle accident not too long ago. And your day started off beautiful. And I fell off a ladder once. Right? But that scared the shit out of me. I won't ride a motorcycle again. Yeah. Your day started off beautiful. But that scared the shit out of me.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I won't ride a motorcycle again. And that literally was almost like when someone told me I had cancer. That changed my life. Oh, yeah. I like this one, too. It says, when friends or relatives are in the hospital, go see them. You only need to stay for a few minutes. Totally.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yes. You know, I see, you know, yeah. You don't appreciate that until, like, my dad was in the hospital. Like, I try to get, thank God, knock on wood, I haven't had a lot of friends in the hospital for any kind of extended stay. But I always do try to make it to go see them. But one thing I tell you I have lacked at in my life over the years is not making it a point to go to funerals. And I think that's something. Really? really yeah i don't know why man is the younger kid like i had a couple friends pass away and i had something about i was like no i don't want to go i don't want to
Starting point is 01:01:15 go to the funeral i went to my first funeral when i was 34 years old really Really? Yeah. Go ahead. I'm 41 now. I went to my first funeral 37 years ago. Yeah. And a lot of people have died and stuff, but they didn't have funerals. No, but the point is, I mean, dude, I want people fighting over the microphone at my funeral. So it's like anything else.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You give what you give. And I think, you know, even if you just, I mean, one of the things we did, like our friend Scott, his grandmother died. And I think he was so touched by all of us going down there. He was so touched just to be there to support him. Even if you're not that connected to people, try to, you know, if it's somebody that's important to you and somebody that's important to them, try to show up for them. Do you know what, have you seen that movie, The Big Kahuna, with Danny DeVito?
Starting point is 01:01:59 I think you've mentioned this before, but we've never. I thought the whole thing about about if you talk to somebody, if you really want to get to know somebody, you really want someone to understand that you're there for them and not yourself. It's kind of like visiting someone at the hospital, ask about their kids. Ask about their kids.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So because if you go to visit somebody at the hospital, you're doing something, it's an act of service, for somebody else for their benefit. You get nothing from it. It's a time when someone's down. It's not like there's some uh popularity content oh i went to my friend's hospital that's truly like an act of like love or service i think i think visiting someone in the hospital it definitely shows that they're valuable
Starting point is 01:02:35 enough to you for whatever reason to go i like that one the chicken wings and the grilled cheese at hospitals. I'll say this. St. Rose up the road is like Sizzler with doctors. It really is. Oh, yeah, dude. St. Rose comes pretty strong. You guys want to meet up at the hospital tomorrow for chicken wings? No, every time we had a baby, I was more excited about the Sizzler
Starting point is 01:03:00 than I was about the baby. It's just that good. It used to be. I don't know if it's still that good, but it was that good. I'm going to run through these just because we're running short on time. Take charge of your attitude.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Don't let someone else choose it for you. I agree with that. If you wake up in the morning and you say I'm in a bad mood, that's a choice you're making. Yep. Not that. Begin each day with some of your favorite music.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Love that. It helps put you in a positive state. Try Back in Black by ACDC. Oh, I play a different song every day, and usually my go-to is Judas Priest, Breaking the Law. Is it Breaking the Law as you wake up? Setting the standard. My wake-up song when Alexa wakes us up every day is Lovely Day
Starting point is 01:03:36 by Bill Withers. We wake up to Bill Withers every morning. I go to Rob Halford. It's hard to be right to Rob Halford. That's how I wake the kids up. When the kids are sleeping late, I'm always like, Alexa, play Swedish death metal in Hayden's room, volume 10. That's my standard wake-up call.
Starting point is 01:03:56 When I was growing up in high school, you didn't have Alexa or anything like that. It was a clock radio. At 6 o'clock a.m. every morning on Z100 in new york they would play money by pink floyd so it was the first note as soon as it was so i would wake up to that every single day of high school every day not bad no show respect for someone who works for a living regardless of how trivial their job i cannot agree with this more you can tell more about a person by how they treat other people in working in service situations than anything else. How did we not talk about we were Julia Roberts freaking Friday night at the bar? We did.
Starting point is 01:04:37 We did. You saw Julia Roberts? No. We got treated like pretty women. We got pretty womaned. We are pretty womaned. Really? We asked to leave?
Starting point is 01:04:44 Pretty much. You know, we won't talk about the place. Eight. Eight got pretty womaned. We are pretty womaned. Really? We asked to leave? Pretty much. You know, we won't talk about the place. Eight. Eight at Resorts World. Dead to me. We went to the Cigar Bar at eight, right? And they got there before I did, and they sit down. And the lady says, hey, just so you know, this table is reserved at 9.30?
Starting point is 01:04:59 I think it was 10 o'clock. Whatever it was. 9.30. It was 5.45 when we showed up. She's like, 9.30. So at 9.30, it's like 5.30. I can go home and take a nap and come back, and it's still not going to fucking be me. They're like, bro, if we're still here.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I can play a game of cricket. Yeah. If we're still here, something's incredibly wrong. And we're sitting there, and it's like. Half hour later. Half hour later, she comes over, and I just ordered another drink. We dropped now at least 180 bucks at this point. Yeah. In 30 minutes, we spent 200 bucks, right? And I just ordered another drink. We dropped now at least $180 at this point. Yeah, in 30 minutes we spent $200, right?
Starting point is 01:05:28 And I just ordered another drink, and the hostess comes over. She goes, oh, I'm sorry. The party that's going to be here later, they got here early, so you guys have to move. There are empty tables in every direction. Do you look at us? Everywhere. Every table.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And do you know where she tries to put us? Yeah, at the bar. No, no. She tried to put us outside. Oh, outside she tried to move us. It was 40- no she tried to put us outside oh outside she tried to move it was 40 mile an hour winds it was 50 degrees she goes you can go outside we're like look at all these things we're like can we at least go to the bar she goes i guess yeah they showed up three and a half hours and then some guy sits there for 45 minutes by himself so we
Starting point is 01:06:03 go we go to the bar and i i set my drink back i'm like we'll go somewhere else i don't want it and then they put it on the bill yeah yeah it was it was bad form it was all the way around bad form if you have reservations at 9 30 and you show up at six are you expecting your table no but you you need to be better at managing your that place is fucked for a million reasons yeah and i i don't even want it to do well i just hope it tanks because it's got that air about it where it's like look how special we are we offer literally nothing yeah you're not that interesting you're not that special i don't know what makes you think that customer service shouldn't be
Starting point is 01:06:38 paramount but either way when you walk when you work with nightclub people or whatever you go to industry people and they talk down to you. I hate that. Oh, God. No bar that does that has ever survived. No, it hasn't. And this place is, you know, there you go. It's on the crosshairs because I'll never spend another nickel in there.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Never, ever again. Oh, probably all of Resorts World. Well, you know what's funny? Let's look at the next one. Remember that 80% of success in any job is based on your ability to deal with people. Shockingly apropos from the ideal man. And the last one we'll read from him. We'll settle it up with this one is don't expect life to be fair.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Fair is in my house and my, and my word, I don't know if you guys know this fair is actually a bad word in my house. Like if my kids say fair, it's like they're in trouble. I'm always like fair is where you buy cotton candy and hot dogs. Clint Eastwood and unforgiving. It Eastwood, an unforgiven. It deserves got nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It deserves got nothing to do with it. Exactly right. It's like, there's only what a man can do and what a man will do. That's it. There's a fair and we do that. So Colt, what is, what is it? Give the people the best piece of advice you can give them as you're listening. All both of them.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I mean, be careful about eating the fairs hot dogs those will not settle in your stomach well the fair hot dog no eat the cotton candy the hot dogs will make you sick okay no i think i think the most important thing is there has been studies after studies after studies of going and talking to 80 90 year old people and their people, and their only regret's not doing something. It's not what they did. It's what they did not do. So that being said. Say yes. Take action.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Say yes. Counselor, what do you got? Order the guacamole. Order the guacamole. Who's got the best guac in town? Probably El Dorado. El Dorado. I give it to them.
Starting point is 01:08:19 El Dorado downtown. At the strip club? No, at the strip club. Oh. El Dorado Cantina. It's good. Oh, at strip club. Guac is the cantina it's good oh it's good it is good counselor what do you got you already said guacamole oh you said the guacamole i'm just
Starting point is 01:08:33 saying like don't what do they say money and time don't don't don't chance order the extra live it love it you don't spend it well what are the guacamole you're gonna die one day you really are gonna die one day think You really are going to die one day. Think about how lucky you are to exist in this point in time in terms of we have modern dentistry, so it doesn't hurt that much to fix your teeth. We have surgery where you can be in and out and not even realize laparoscopically. Every other point in human history prior to today was harder. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Okay? Every other point in human history, right? And just appreciate it. Just understand that you're blessed with... Do you think it's harder? I think 1986 was probably pretty solid for me. I think life was much easier. I think life was easier in 1986 for me now.
Starting point is 01:09:16 If you had to go back to 1986, you may want to blow your brains out. Dude, I was at the skating rink keeping it real in 86. That was a solid run. Do I get 1986 energy? Then yeah in 86. That was a solid run. Do I get 1986 energy? Then yeah, actually. That's pretty sweet. That's a lot cheaper.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Shoot that right at the problem. Gordon, what do you got? Final bit of advice for folks. There's so much, but at the end of the day, find yourself the right woman. Yeah. Amen to that. That makes the most sense. Unless you're a lady who's into men.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Find your equal in the opposite gender. This is International Women's Day, so I had to, you know. I couldn't agree with that. My best piece of advice, I guess, as I would say as you go out there, is if you have kids, remember they're watching everything you do. And if you want your kids to turn out to be great people, you need to focus on being a great person yourself. And we'll go with that.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Well, if you guys enjoyed today's little tidbit on advice, we'll be back next week with more power move. Remember if you hated what we talked about today, if you absolutely couldn't stand it, tell two people, because then, but if you liked it,
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