Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Squid Game Business Lessons EP 19

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

Squid Game Business LessonsThe Power Move Episode 19Learn and burn Entrepreneurship from serial entrepreneur John Gafford and his band of mayhem makers. From stripper poles to the oval office, busines...s lessons are everywhere. This Week:Business lessons from The Netflix show Squid GamesHow to buy anything you wantWith Chris Connell and Colt Amidan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from the art of the deal to keeping it real live from the simply vegas studios it's the power move with john gafford back again back again back again for another fun-filled exciting episode i'm just kidding no another episode of The Power Move. I am your host, John Gafford. With me to my left, as promised, a new nickname every week. It is Colt the Wacong Cobra. Amaden.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Colt. Like Cobra. The Wacong Cobra. Or the Mekong Cobra. I guess it should be. I'll pay that. I'll pay that. The Mekong Cobra.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I like it. Wow. And then also to my left, Chris Consul Esquire. How are you, buddy? All right. Living the dream. Good to see you, Counselor. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Glad to have everybody here again. And man, you obviously would probably have to be living under a rock at this point, if you haven't heard about a little show on Netflix called The Squid Games. I know where this is going. You know where it's going, right? So they'll be here in about 15 minutes to pick you up, Colt. You weren't expecting to go there, were you? No, no, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:01:12 No, they're not going to be here in 15 minutes. Joke's on you guys because I'm pretty athletic. I feel like you can win it all. Colt's that first guy we send over the glass. I know, but the point is there's a bunch of articles out there running around about business lessons in life uh about squid game so first of all and foremost i have seen the show chris has seen the show colt has seen one episode of the show so if this is going to be spoilers but i look at this way if you haven't watched it at this point no we're
Starting point is 00:01:40 probably not going to and you're going to be able to pick up enough from this to at least be able to talk about it next time you're at a cocktail party when people are yammering about this thing. So first of all, before we even get into it, I mean, was it the global phenomena you thought watching the whole thing? So I'll tell you, I found that it was riveting in the middle and disappointing at the end. Slow. A little slow on the end. Slow and… Nice twist, but a little slow.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I mean, interesting. Like I said, I just found the ending was a little slow on the end slow and nice twist but a little slow i mean interesting like like i said i just found the the ending was a little bit there's again everybody's a monday morning quarterback and 2020 vision all that but i just i don't know maybe it was a cultural miss to me about how that ended like maybe like go get on the fucking plane asshole yeah yeah right it's your kid right i? I'm agreeing with that. You're selling your kid out. Yeah, no, that highly displeases me. Did they bring Tom Hanks out? Is that why?
Starting point is 00:02:30 No, it would have been, yeah. He's in season two. Tom Hanks would have never had such a poorly thought out ending. Tom Hanks would have gone and seen his kid like he did in The Castaway or whatever. He would have saw her. Yes. He would have gone and seen her. Okay, go do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:02:41 No, he didn't go see her. Yeah, he's not going to go fight that. I'm guessing from first episode. If you have not seen the Squid Games, and I'm going to fill you in for the cocktail party. Oh, that's a spoiler. I'm not going to say it again. The whole damn thing. We're going to talk about the whole freaking show.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So essentially the premise of this show is they take a bunch of down on their luck, downtrodden gamblers that have these massive debts and are basically dregs on society and have gotten themselves to a point in Loserville where they've convinced them to go to this event where they compete against each other for a truckload of money. Now, what they don't tell them when they first sign up is, hey, as you get eliminated from this little contest, we're going to basically shoot you in the head at where you stand. Yeah. Clip you where you are. There's a lot of gratuitous violence in this. Not something your kids want to see. But yeah, that's basically the lesson.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So let's start with the first part of it here. Let's talk about there's so many people, I saw a stat the other day that said of people that earn over $150,000 a year, which is a lot. I mean, that's a six-figure earner. Less than 25% of them have over $1,000 in savings. Oh yeah. The average American has $700 in savings. Yeah, but you're talking about people making $150,000. These average American has $700 in savings. Yeah, but you're talking about people making $100. These are six-figure players because they're living beyond their means. Yeah. So I would say the first lesson here is going to be don't live beyond your means.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And I always say this. If you're parking your Lambo in a two-car garage, you screwed up. That's a really good point. You have absolutely screwed up your life. My neighborhood has multiple of those because we have different... Unless you live in London. Or New York or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:14 We have some tiny little apartment or condos in our community and there's $250,000, $300,000 cars in front of $200,000 condos. It makes no sense. Maybe it's like a single lady. She just wants a Lambo.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Maybe she's really into Lambo. That's her dream. If that's your thing, fine, but don't think you're making good financial decisions. No, but I'm going to say this. Here is the one piece of financial advice that I can give people that are living beyond their means or you want nice things.
Starting point is 00:04:40 All you got to do is put one step in there. You just got to add one step. And here's the step. Let's say I want to go buy a Lambo, right? And even with my down payment that I'm going to put down, because if I'm making $150,000, I have no savings. I've got some money. I'm going to put some coin together. And I want to buy a Lambo.
Starting point is 00:04:59 What I'm going to do is I'm going to go buy, and it doesn't have to be where you live. You need to find a house you can buy as a rental that will cashflow the payment of the car. Then go buy the car. If you buy an investment, and it could be investing in something that pays a dividend that comes back. It could be interest that comes back an investment. But as long as you invest that money into an asset that is generating the capital you need to pay for that depreciating item, you're fine. You can buy whatever you want. You just have to add that one extra step into what you're doing. If you have the money and the credit to go buy a damn Lambo, you get the money and the credit to go buy a house with a little cash flow. You can do that. There's no reason not to do that.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But yet so many people are just jumping right to the Lambo. They don't buy the appreciating asset that pays for the item. How would that work? That's actually interesting you say that, but break that down just real quick. All right. Okay, let's say. So, look, break it down on a dollar-dollar basis. All right, let's go. A quarter-million-dollar Lambo.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. Okay, well, let's say, okay, a Lambo is going to cost you, if you buy a used one, whatever, which one is it? You can get one for $100. No, it ain't $100. You can get a Gallardo for $100. All right, well, let's call it $100,000. No, it ain't $100,000. You can get a Gallardo for $100,000. All right. Well, let's call it $100,000.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Okay. All right? So because it's going to be used, whatever else, you're going to have to put probably 30% down. Agreed? Or you're going to want to. Or you have to buy it all. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. Okay. So let's call it. So you're going to pay. Or you could put, let's assume you could pay cash for it. Let's assume you could pay cash for the Lambo. Yeah, the $100,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 $100,000. Okay? Let's assume that. So let's, instead of buying the $100,000 Lambo, let's turn around now and go and buy a house go to go to macon georgia wherever a hundred thousand dollar house no let's go two hundred thousand dollar house let's buy a two hundred thousand dollar house all right in macon you got to put forty thousand dollars down because you got to put twenty percent down right you put forty thousand dollars down you have this asset you're into it 160 at 160 ballparking what do you think the mortgage is right now?
Starting point is 00:06:45 The mortgages are nothing. $800,000, $2,000,000. No, not $2,000,000. $850,000. No, $30,000. Why would you do $50,000? You're sub $900,000 with tax and insurance. Yeah, it's easily sub $900,000.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And now you can rent that house out for, let's call it, $1,800,000 right now. So you're positive a grand. So now you put $40,000 down. You got $60,000 back. I would actually go buy another house if I could buy one there for that cheap. So now I own two. I'm generating $2,000 a month. I go put $10,000 down on the damn Lambo.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Sure. And then I'm financing it for two grand a month and the houses are buying it. But at the end of it, when I'm done with the Lambo and I sell the Lambo, the Lambo is depreciating. Now at the end of it, when I'm done with the Lambo and I sell the Lambo as the Lambo's depreciating, now at the end of it, I have these assets that are appreciating. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And somebody else is paying the mortgage. That's just good financial sense to buy assets, the cash flow. But people don't comprehend that. Yeah, but people don't do that because they want
Starting point is 00:07:36 what they want now. All you got to do is add that one little extra step in there, man. Go buy an asset. I like it. Living with $1,000 in your bank account,
Starting point is 00:07:43 I would be absolutely terrified. Dude, I freak out. If we probably all said what we have in the bank and we would say, I still freak out. If I told people what I had in the bank, they'd be like, what? Yeah. We talked about that. We talked about it, yeah. Probably too much in the
Starting point is 00:07:59 bank. Way too much. You don't want too much in the bank because your money sitting in the bank is losing value. I get it. You're losing value if it's in the bank but i agree you should have a certain amount of a certain amount of bounce back in the bank i'm working on that this week i got a deal that's going through so i'll be oh good for you offloading a bunch of cash on a couple deals but not not preferable because i would have rather financed but yeah no no good for you we're getting ready to close on the office buildings that we own on the other side of town which is great and and that's good and we'll do you know ready to close on the office buildings that we own on the other side of town, which is great. And that's good.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And we'll do, you know, accelerate depreciation on those and a whole lot of taxes this year. And life is good. Life is good. We want to do, but again, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:33 living within your means and being smart about money, don't get yourself in a situation where you would ever go on a game show to get shot in the head for millions of dollars. Don't do it. I mean, I, you know, it's my buddy,
Starting point is 00:08:44 Bradley always talks about, he says, you know, my buddy Brad Lee always talks about it. He says, you know, what if I told you you'd have a million dollars today? Would you take it? And people are like, yeah. And he's like, what if I told you you couldn't wake up tomorrow? Would you still take it? No. Then tomorrow's worth more than a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Right. Absolutely. But on Squid Game, I saw him play Red Light. We're getting to that. We're getting to that. Don't skip ahead, Colt. We're talking about the premise. That's the first episode.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm the first. Probably was. But I think literally the number one way that people get themselves into financial trouble in this place is living beyond their means. And wanting now. Wanting now. And in Vegas. That's the number one way. Have you ever seen it?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Even in LA, I never saw it worse than Vegas. I had lunch with a friend of mine today. He's a really, really successful attorney here in town. Really smart guy great he had just gone to africa on safari really interesting guy and we were talking about that he's talking about uh how he was in it was in la or whatever and he saw these people when the checks came out and lined up at gucci he was just like he was talking about he's talking about kids right he's a little he's a little bit older than i am but we was talking about you know what the hell's going on with these kids why don't
Starting point is 00:09:47 they none of them have a couple nickels to scrape together and it got into this whole thing of you know i think a lot of kids think it's really hard to exist now i can't buy a house i can't do all this and there's not a lot of hope for these kids that are very young that's kind of the message and i'm like yeah but there was no hope for me when i was a kid so i had no roommates see i had three roommates i'm gonna disagree with you on that one, though. I think the smart kids took those checks and bought crypto. Oh, yeah. He's talking about the guys buying Gucci belts for $1,000 a day.
Starting point is 00:10:14 But here's the difference. Let's talk about the one step that makes a difference, the one step that made a difference. The people that got the checks and lined up at Gucci, they missed one step between the check and the Gucci, which was this step. The wealth of human knowledge about how to make money is on YouTube. Oh, absolutely. These kids that got on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:10:34 learned how to trade crypto, learned how to trade NFTs, learned how to drive that, learned this as a business, they took those checks and made money. Sure. And then once that crypto builds and grows and grows and grows,
Starting point is 00:10:48 now go buy your Gucci. But again, it's the one step between, and a of times twice don't buy it 100 if you can't buy it twice don't buy it like i said i have i have a cooling off period when i want to buy something expensive i'll look at it and i don't impulse buy anything i'll look at it and i'll cool off for four days if i still want it i'll buy it if not a lot of times i don't don't you find that after the cooling off period you don't you talk yourself out of it i don't want it i've done that lots of times it was a dream in't you find that after the cooling off period, you talk yourself out of it? I don't want it. I've done that lots of times. It was a dream of mine to have a Ferrari as a kid. And there's times when, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:10 you have a couple cocktails, you get on that eBay bidding site and start throwing out some bids. Yeah, sure. They hold their value. But the next day you wake up, 430. 430? Okay. Because it's kind of got all the good things with 430.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's got the chain instead of the belt. Yeah, yeah. Got a lot of value. Really love that car. All right. I would take an old one over a new one. I'd rather have a 430 than a 488 or a 458. Oh, I'd much rather have a 488.
Starting point is 00:11:32 No, never. No, not even close to me. 430 is the number one. But that's just my preference. Agreed. But I've never owned one. That's true. And there's a reason.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Because it is not something that... Go off. I'm actually probably a shitty owner of that car because i don't like to put in the time and maintenance yeah i'm not going to be wiping it with diapers like ferris bueller like cam's dad and ferris bueller so i look at it i want it in the moment and then i realized the effort it would take and i go i don't need to add more things in my life to take care of i took i took i won't talk about what kind of i took i took the black car down to circa this weekend and as i was pulling the valet, I looked how dirty my car was.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I was just like, holy crap. Like, I don't know when this happened or how this happened, but I was actually embarrassed to put my car in the valet. Yeah, that's the thing. Sometimes, anyway, that's the cooling off period that I like where I realize. I bought myself one time on eBay a 1970 Ford Mustang. I got a good deal on it. And I put a bunch of stuff in it, got all these things.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Now I completely wish I hadn't gotten it. Now I'm selling it. Yeah. It sounds great at the moment. I want the 69 Mach 1. I want the John Wick car. And then you get it. If I got it, I'd start it up.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It smelled like gasoline. I'd go, I'm not driving this car. I can't take this. That's what works, man. The wife doesn't want to get in it. I'm out. They're death traps. Forget gasoline. I'd go, I'm not driving. I can't take it. It's a work event. The wife doesn't want to get in it. I'm out. They're death traps. Forget it.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I'm completely out of this. So back to the Squid Game. So the first game they play after they sign their lives away for being financially responsible is they bring them out and they say, we're going to play Red Light, Green Light. It's Red Light, Green Light. Big crazy person in the back. And literally, it just turns into this giant girl that's got machine guns on it. When she catches you moving after red light, you just get clipped with a sniper rifle.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Bang, bang, bang. People are dropping everywhere. And the people that rushed in this were the ones that all got shot. The people that took their time and kind of stacked themselves up in a row and worked together got through it. So I think the lesson here is it doesn't matter how fast you get something done. It's just that you make steady, steady progress to move forward. If you try to go fast, bad things can happen.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Step back. Don't rush into stuff without figuring out what it is. Step back, digest stuff. I mean, I always tell people in business, it's like being on a freeway. You ever get stuck behind two idiots? Yeah, and you're just trying to push, push, push. Sometimes if you get off the gas, you see there's a clear open lane over here, right? Same thing.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Like when you start rushing shit, sometimes take a step back. Just look at stuff. I would win that game. You would win that game all day. I always want to pump the brakes on that, the crypto trading thing that you said, though, John. I think a lot of people, this is a good point about Red Light, Green Light,
Starting point is 00:14:09 the crypto thing you'd mentioned. Jumping into something you don't know. Jumping into something you haven't put the time into, the homework. Nobody wants to be a trader. And look, just because I say that the wealth of human knowledge is on YouTube doesn't mean it's always a good idea.
Starting point is 00:14:21 One of the worst pictures I ever got from somebody was I had a guy trying to get me to invest in a cannabis operation. And the guy actually said to me, I spent the whole weekend on YouTube. I know everything there is to know about this. I was like, the whole weekend you spent? Oh my gosh, goodness.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Here's a half a million dollars. Good for you. Here's a giant investment. He came right to my office after that. I can see that. So the next episode as they did this was the Honeycomb episode. This is where essentially what
Starting point is 00:14:45 they do is i guess it's a well-known japanese game if you're a kid or korean game where they take sugar and they spin it into a flat like pancake looking thing all right and then they take a cookie cutter and kind of depress it into it but not all the way through it just so it leaves an outline it's like a dent in the in the comb and the game is you've got to break away all of the pieces around it to where you just have the shape that was of of the of the cookie cutter and if you break it guess what happens cold it's right in the head yeah you don't know if i'd be good guess who's twisted daughter made honey really made honey comes again oh god you did this you know what she gives me a canadian maple leaf she gives herself a star and gives me a maple leaf?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Sharp edges. So here's the deal. As this rolls out, right? As this game is being rolled out, there's one guy. There's a doctor who's kind of getting the inside scoop because apparently as the people get killed, some of the guards are harvesting body parts and selling them off on the black market to China. That's a whole other little subplot of this deal. But the doctor is getting some of the inside scoop as to what's happening.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And he's kind of getting a little bit of inside scoop. And there's a girl that's climbing up in the vents and trying to figure it out. And she sees them making these things with sugar. And they kind of put it together before the game starts, right? They put it together and they go out. And there's essentially five characters that are kind of working together. There's an old man, a woman, a gangster guy sort of, the guy that was like the smart banker guy that embezzled all the money
Starting point is 00:16:11 and is there for that. And then the hero is the main guy who's a degenerate gambler. There you go, the protagonist, if you will. And anyway, so they're working on this team. They're looking at it. And the one guy that's like the smart Wall Street guy, he like remembers the game. He knows what it is. He remembers what it is it is he's like i know what we're doing so they have the shapes and
Starting point is 00:16:29 they go you can pick whatever shape you like now keep in mind every time somebody dies in this game it whittles it down a little more and there's a giant piggy bank in the ceiling they dump more money into and i think we looked it up it's like a like 45 billion won or whatever and it comes up like 30 38 million bucks they keep adding money to it right and so as we're going along the guy knows the game and the one guy says to him he goes oh you know should we all pick something different or what should we do now this guy knows the easiest shape to pick it was i think it was a try was it stars easiest one yeah triangle whatever it was so he's like oh i don't know we should all pick something different because
Starting point is 00:17:04 we don't know so he kind of pick something different because we don't know. So he kind of sold his, sold his team out a little bit cause he knew what was coming and they all pick something different. Smart move. Well, okay. Now all the main characters kind of get through this thing. One of them ends up,
Starting point is 00:17:18 so the main character draws like an umbrella and it's like impossible. It's, it's like the hardest thing. And he's like, Oh, how do I get through this? And he was like, Oh, he started licking the back of it because he realized if you hold it up to the sun and you started licking it, you could get through it. So this brings me to business points on this and tell me if you disagree or disagree. My first one, and nobody in all the
Starting point is 00:17:38 articles I saw, nobody mentioned this one. And I'm going to mention it, which is one of my general rules of business is if a competitor in the marketplace is making a mistake, let them. Let them do it. I think, you know, business to a certain extent, if you've read Art of War, business, it's warfare, man. And if your competitors are making a mistake, don't be so quick to verbalize that mistake and not necessarily just to verbalize it to them, but don't talk about it to other people because somebody might go back to that person and say, oh, so-and-so said you're screwing this up or you're doing this wrong. Right. And then not only do they get the information to fix it, but it makes you look bad.
Starting point is 00:18:18 If you see somebody that's your competitor in the marketplace making a mistake, let them make it. I don't think that's ruthless. I think that's business. What says you, counselor? Yeah, no, I think that's actually very reasonable. People think it's cold-blooded or whatever, but it's like, well, this isn't a popularity contest. You're out here to do good, fair business. I'm not here to help you correct, you know, you'll figure it out. Sometimes those are the lessons you need to learn personally as well, so you're not even
Starting point is 00:18:43 helping people by correcting them. Yeah. It's funny, like, for example, this happened to me the other day. Like give me as an example, we have a space out in front of our office. You guys drive by it whenever you come here. The very first space right in front of the door. What does it say, Colt? What's that door? What's that space say? Reserve for top agent. Reserve for the top agent. Reserve for agent of the month. They get the number one best parking space out there. Went to another company the other day and in front of their business, it said reserved for broker.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. And I was like, Hmm, should I say? Nah, that's off putting. Yeah. Well it is,
Starting point is 00:19:17 but that's good. Right. As for you as a competitor, let it, but also sometimes what you think some mistakes, not a mistake on their end, right? Like, I know people that run brokerages way horribly, and it's brilliant for the owner's part. But when it comes down to a paycheck, it's between feeding your kids and their kids.
Starting point is 00:19:38 They can be your best friend. Yeah. They're going to win. That's why ruthless people go to the top a lot. Well, they say, you know, the range of what is it? Rain falls on the just and unjust alike. Yeah. Which is true. And God knows some of the people that I've been screwed out of millions of dollars with are just some of the most unscrupulous people. They're terrible people. Let's face it. And yet, you know, there you go. We continue. But the second, I think, lesson of the cookie was this, was don't, there's more than one
Starting point is 00:20:08 way to solve a problem in business and everything. Before you make a snap decision and dive headfirst into something and do that, you've got to take a second to analyze the situation completely, look at it from all angles, and make sure that you're making the best decision on how to proceed. I think in business, especially real estate, man, realtors have what's called, you know, like cats with shiny objects. It's like somebody will call and be like, Hey, I've got this new magic marketing bullet. You want to buy it? Yes. And it's just so quick to dive into that. So quick to change gears. So quick to do this without really taking an honest, slow look at their business as far as what's wrong with it
Starting point is 00:20:42 to see where they can improve. And to your point, John, as far as what's wrong with it to see where they can improve. And to your point, John, as far as that squid game goes, understand the tools you have available to you. Oh, that's a good one too. There's a girl that's got a lighter and she lights up the pen and warms it up, right? There is other ways to do it, but use the tools you have, right? That comes down to use your network, use the things you have because other people are playing with different sets of skills than you have, right? If you're a tall, beautiful, you know, whatever attractive person, that's going to be a different skill set than maybe you have, but maybe you have an ability to be thoughtful and send handwritten cards, right? And people think in this business, in your business and personally mine, that the attractive ones are the, you know, you, you, we all know that.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Well, it's all Colts rich. I mean, well, hold on. He's exceptionally attractive, exceptionally attractive. If you check out the YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:21:32 if you haven't seen Colt yet, I mean, gorgeous, breathtaking. Oh, just, just, just look at him.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Just look at him. Don't do nasty. Stallion. Sitting here. You ever see that handsome boy modeling school thing? That's it. That's it. That's it. But no, sometimes people in this business underestimate what people really want.
Starting point is 00:21:50 A lot of people from the Midwest moving, if you're from Kansas, you're moving to Las Vegas, you're not necessarily picking out the drop-dead gorgeous model to sell your home. You may want the person who's giving you great customer service and going to be first. Looks like you. Looks like you. Doesn't wear. Looks like you. Wears a t-shirt and jeans. Not going to disrupt.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah. Not going to make his wife uncomfortable by being too damn handsome or whatever. Whatever. Right. Stone in my life. Don't use the tools you have available to you within the rules, obviously. Well, no, but again, again, you know, let's talk about what is fair. What is fair?
Starting point is 00:22:21 And again, I go back to, again, one of my favorite movie quotes, which was Jack Sparrow in the Pirates of the Caribbean. He was like, look, there's no such thing as fair. There's what a man can do and what a man can't do.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And that's it. It's all that matters. And that's the lessons. Every time my kids say, well, that's not fair. I go, well,
Starting point is 00:22:36 the fair is where you buy cotton candy and popcorn. There's no such thing as fair. The world is not fair. Fair's got nothing to do with it. Oh, yeah. This isn't fair. Fair's got nothing. What was that oh yeah this isn't fair fair's getting up what was that from that's sean connery wasn't it uh the only i remember from
Starting point is 00:22:50 sean connery was nothing to do i know the rock no when he says uh when he goes uh can you do this and he goes try let's try try losers try winners go home and bang the prom queen he goes they're bashed yeah do the best there Losers always talk about their bash. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. That's what it was. No, yeah, there is no tribe that is doing that.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So yeah, use the tools you have. Use what you got. Yeah, like you said, there's a lot of successful people based on they're hot.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. But they fizzle out depreciating assets. Depreciating assets and there's a bunch of them in the real estate business. judge yourself against them either,
Starting point is 00:23:23 right? Like, oh, they're being successful. No, it is. So the next episode after they survived this bad boy, they did a marble game. And this was a little bit of a mind twist on anybody. Because what they tell him is.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Was marble number three? Yeah, marble was the next one. No, no, no, tug of war. Tug of war. Sorry, man. We got tug of war. Sorry. I skipped tug of war.
Starting point is 00:23:38 So the next game is tug of war where they tell them to separate into groups of 10. Right? You got to pick 10 people. So again, the doctor that was helping harvest organs for the guards finds out it's going to be tug of war. So he comes in and tells the gangster guy, insider trader guy. So he comes in and tells the gangster guy, we need a big, strong team, as many big, strong guys as we can get because he knows it's going to be tug of war.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So they get a big, strong team. And then our hero with his little hodgepodge of his 70 year old man and his guy, they wind up with like, they wind up with, with their team, which includes sub a hundred pounds, the absolute worst part of this entire series and made it borderline unwatchable. Was that like 45 year old hooker? The,
Starting point is 00:24:18 the, the, Oh God, which one, how much of that was lost in translation? I don't know, but just her voice. It was unwatchable.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I agree. The voice is horrible. My wife was like, my wife literally who abhors violence is like, will they please kill this bitch? Please kill this bitch. Is she the one that was in the bathroom when they snuck into the van? No, no, no, no, no. Not the one that snuck into the van.
Starting point is 00:24:40 She's like a good one. No, no, no. The bathroom. She's a good one. She was the one going, ah, I'm going to the bathroom. Don't come in. Yes, that one. She's in the bathroom. The bathroom. She was the one going, I'm going to the bathroom. Don't come in. Yes, that one. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I grew up watching such bad Kung Fu movies that I have a certain soft spot in my heart where I can forgive how bad the voiceover is. Best old Kung Fu movie. It's Enter the Dragon. No. Kung Fu? No, the best Kung Fu movie.
Starting point is 00:24:59 36 Chambers. No. Romeo Must Die? What are you talking about? Five Deadly Venoms. Five Deadly Venoms is okay. What? Okay, this is a whole other show. I'll get into this one this that's a whole nother show you don't want to go too deep
Starting point is 00:25:09 on that yeah no no no no he's got he makes the 36 chambers no five deadly venoms code style come on come on come on anyway so so they go to the tug of war so they're left with our little our little group of rag tag ragamuffins goes up there. And the tug of war is like on a tower. That's like 120 feet in the air. And guess there's like, you fall off. Like when you go,
Starting point is 00:25:32 they chain you, they chain you to the thing. You're done. This is how they kill you. So if you lose, you're going off the edge. And they basically have a little deal with this. Okay,
Starting point is 00:25:40 go. And they all lean back at the same time. And they have a strategy. Cause the old man, when I was young, I would play this game. It was, that was a little slow to me too. A time, and they have a strategy, because the old man, when I was young, I would play this game. That was a little slow to me, too. It was a little overdramatic for him.
Starting point is 00:25:50 But he told them how to win, and they had the strategy, and they ended up winning, right? The other team, meh. They had a better strategy than just pure brute strength. Yes, it was a better strategy than pure brute strength. In real life would have worked, though. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Absolutely not. It would have been like Revenge of the Nerds when, what was it, the Alpha Betas just ran them out of the house literally no so but i think that um i think there is something to say in teams i think there's somebody with planning and strategic teams the power of many versus the power of one absolutely there um in business for me with real estate with what we do i it's it's the power of the team um you know if you're not in real estate, it's really any sales business. Sales is a lonely, lonely, lonely business by yourself at the top and at the middle.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah. I always say one log makes a lousy fire. I agree. And if you're around a bunch of other people that are doing the same exact thing you're doing and you're having and seeing success, you'll do well. I tell every single person that comes to work for me, it is about a 90-day window. Like it's like a 10-speed. It's just going to spin without catching a gear for about 90 days.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And in 90 days, that gear is going to click. And as long as you consistently pedal, that bike will take you as far and as fast as you want to go. So I had a guy who came to work for me 90 days ago, Julian, got within the team, got within the system, trusted the process of what we were supposed to do, did not waver from what we were supposed to do. Four closings.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Trusted plan, four deals in escrow this weekend. Boom. Good deals. That's solid, good, yeah, solid. Yeah, that's awesome. Solid deals. And just because. That could be life changing.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah, he literally came in and just followed the process. Same thing, work the team, work the team plan. So if you're struggling in the sales industry, get on a team, man, get with some other people, get around some people that plan so if you're struggling in the sales industry get on a team man get with some other people get around some people that are doing what you're doing because again it is a lonely lonely world to do by yourself yeah i like that it's a great point and also to your point about how there's not just one path of winning like that's why jujitsu is so successful in the ultimate fighting championship right the big gorillas fighting and then you get
Starting point is 00:27:41 this skinny 180 pound well yeah horse gracie and Horace Gracie. Horace Gracie. UFC 1. Just choking people out. Just diving at their ankles. Just suffocating your neck. You know, that brute strength isn't always what you need, right? Sometimes it's different angles. It gets there.
Starting point is 00:27:55 No, I agree. So the next episode, after we go from this, as we go to... You know what? Let's take a quick break. We're going to take a quick break, and then we'll come back and pick up. We're going to talk about the Marble game. And five deadly venoms. And five.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Hey, it's John Gafford. If you want to catch up more and see what we're doing, you can always go to thejohngafford.com, where we'll share any links of things we talked about on the show, as well as links to the YouTube where you can watch us live. And if you want to catch up with me on Instagram you can always follow me at the john gafford i'm here give me a shout back from the break back from the break and uh today we're discussing the squid game if you haven't seen it sorry we're gonna ruin it for you but if you at this point if you haven't seen it like we said does it really matter don't worry the ending will ruin it yeah
Starting point is 00:28:43 just get the cliff notes and just go from there it doesn't matter at this point but you know we forgot to talk about what we forgot to talk about was this was i don't know if it was which game was it between was it between red light green light and tug of war i think it was after tug of war it was kind of after the between around the honeycomb seriously i did call because you didn't get this far in it so here's what they did, Colt, because you didn't get this far in it. So here's what they did. They deliberately fed them like nothing. It was like one egg and like a drink. And some of the less than scrupulous folks got back in line.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So they doubled up on the egg and they doubled up. So, so there's like eight or nine people didn't get anything to eat. And they did it purposely because they wanted them to be like, start to turn on each other. Or at least they didn't stop it. Yeah, they didn't stop it. Yeah. So there was a deal where they just kind of let them go at it and kill each other. And like a bunch of people got eliminated, like 20-something people.
Starting point is 00:29:37 We're doing this down pretty quick based on that. And when you look at that situation, I think there's a lot that can be learned from that, which is this. Number one, let's get it from a business standpoint. If you have clients and they feel underserved or they feel they're not getting enough from what they're going to get, one of a couple of things is going to happen. Chances are they're going to look elsewhere to satiate that need, whatever it is. So you might want to look at your client base and ask yourself am i feeding my client base enough on a regular basis because if not the results can't speak for themselves
Starting point is 00:30:11 other than that i would just say you know i don't know how often you're going to be in a prison right situation but if you are hopefully we both looked at colt yeah we both looked at colt like uh yeah it's colt next set you might want to watch that as a do good in prison yeah it's a user thing yeah no it was uh it was just a whole thing where they kind of killed each other but it was crazy who was the guy in the all black mask okay that that's the front man so i see i had figured this out very early as well i kind of figured out what was going on. Okay, so you've seen one episode. Let me see if you can figure this out too. You've seen one episode.
Starting point is 00:30:50 What do you think the whole purpose of this whole thing is? Did you have this in one episode? Did you know exactly what this was about? So I have read things like The Most Dangerous Game. Yeah. Just some billionaire that has a sick mind is what I Know no, I knew I know because such shit as soon as you had the numbers on them Yeah, I knew it was gambling gambling. This is like this is billionaires gambling on rat race That was that did you ever see rat race? I think I did as well
Starting point is 00:31:19 No, but but but the point being is I knew what was going on. It wasn't yeah I mean, I didn't even think it wasn't like i didn't think it was like being held no wasn't a huge wasn't a huge wasn't a huge leap to get there but the front man guy is just kind of in charge of all of the other guys there's something else we didn't talk about which was during this whole time that this is all going on you know a policeman has infiltrated the game he kind of hijacked his way into it and was kind of scooching around. And he kept, because all of the guards are wearing masks, he kept kind of stealing the identity of these different guards and getting from place to place and causing a little bit of havoc as he was recording this. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:55 As he's going along. Right. As this is going along. Did you find that, the end of that, to be a little bit of a plot hole? Like, what was that about? Totally. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Cool looking guards, by the way. Cooling guards. Everyone's going to be dressed up in for halloween no they're not actually not because my son wanted to be dressed up in his for halloween but you can't find those costumes anyway we did no but we did no but we did we did get actually that's not true i lied i say that it's not true my son is going to be the front man we found the mask and he's got the coat so he's going to be the front man called it yeah there it'm saying? Called it. Yeah, there it is. Sexy front man. Sexy front man. Sexy front man.
Starting point is 00:32:27 That's what he's going to be. No, no, no. Not him. Yeah, sure. Sure. The thoughts and feelings of Chris Connell. That is a terrible name. Ultra Sun Cricket Jones.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Exactly. No, but so he's running around causing havoc and doing that. And the games are moving on. People have killed him. We've done Tug of War now. And now this is where it gets a little interesting. So now we go to the Marvel game. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:47 How many people left in the Marvel game? Like now we're down to probably, they started with 456 people. We're down now to maybe 50. Yeah. Down to probably 50. They were being murdered at McDonald's number. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:59 It was an alarming laid out quickly. These people were getting clipped. So much so that I'm like, there was 450 people here. Yeah. I think I've already seen like, there was 450 people here? Yeah. I think I've already seen like 800 gig clips. Yeah, no kidding. So they're down to the marble game when they tell everybody to pair off.
Starting point is 00:33:11 You have to go into pairs and go into the game, in the order of the game. And then when they get in the game, they tell them that they'll be playing against each other. And they can play any game they want with the marbles. They can do whatever they want, but they have to play against each other. And the issue with this is you've got got a husband and wife are in there together. They want to stick together. Now they do this, and so all these different games,
Starting point is 00:33:34 everybody's playing different games. Everybody's doing different things. There are people making great sacrifices because through the course of conversation, they just realize my life is worth nothing compared to yours. You have something to live for. I don't, so they're throwing it,
Starting point is 00:33:45 and then poof, and so they. So they're throwing it and then, you know, and so just capping people left and right. And as it's going along, you have a couple of situations that arise. Number one, my first thing with this is, is never assume anything about anybody. Never assume what they want from you in any shape or form.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Never make that assumption. You know, you can't, these people made the assumption that they were going to be playing together and they weren't. So they were making these assumptions that were going to be there. And I know that, you know, I've ever told you that my finest moment about making assumptions about what people want. And I don't think I have years and years ago when I was on the apprentice, um, after the apprentice, I get called to New York, uh, from a casting agency calls me up. And I think it's like a prank call at one point. I'm like, well, who is this?
Starting point is 00:34:25 What's going on? They're like, no, no, no, we're a casting agency. We saw you and David Flabat
Starting point is 00:34:29 who was like Will and Grace frame. He wrote that, Will and Grace and a bunch of other famous sitcoms. They saw you and they want you
Starting point is 00:34:36 to come read for his new pilot. So I'm like, you know, I've never done this before. I'm like, all right, so yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:42 so you can come to New York and read for a pilot. I'm like, sure. So I said, okay, we need you to sign an NDA and then we're going to overnight you the script. I'm like, great. So sign the NDA and they send me the script down and I opened the script. I have it in my office. I'll show it to you when I'm done. I keep it as a reminder. Absolutely. I do. And for this very lesson, I've never assumed what anybody wants.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So I opened the script and the first page they want me to lead, they want me to read, it's called goodies place. They've got a big pussy a big from the sopranos is going to be the uncle and uh that's the only person they have set cast so far they tell me so i open this script and it has a description of the characters and they want me to read for the lead which is goody right so i read the description of goody it says uh overweight guy in his 30s um somewhat charming but by no means man candy is what this is that's the description for this character that that's just i swear to god i'll show you no i'll show it to you that's the description and then below it is a description for his best friend and his best friend it says tall loud think vince vaughn from swingers. Now keep in mind, I had just got done doing a press tour
Starting point is 00:35:47 where instead of talking about business, they were literally putting pictures of me up next to Vince Vaughn saying how much I look like him. In my younger years, we looked a lot alike, which is funny because now in later life, I'm actually friends with his sister. And the very first thing she ever said to me, Victoria, when I met her,
Starting point is 00:36:01 she's married to a friend of mine, John Isbell. Very first thing she ever said to me was, you look a fucking thing like my brother. Which I thought, when I met her, she's married to a friend of mine, John Isbell. Very first thing she ever said to me was, you look a fucking thing like my brother. That's the first thing she ever said to me, which I thought was, I'm like, I'm not the one running around saying this. Other people, hey, good morning America said it, not me. And anyway, so I read this. So I get to New York and I walk into this casting agency.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I'm fucking goody. Hang on, hang on. I walk into this casting, I walk into this this room very similar kind of the one we're in now uh lit with a camera and a casting director sit there and i said i think there's been a mistake and the guy goes i'm sorry and i said yeah you sent me the script and they said they wanted me to read for goody but i think i should be reading for the other whatever the characters they was and the guy looks at me just like this. I'm looking at the cameras. I'm looking at YouTube and getting friends. He goes, you can read for whatever you want. And I knew in that moment this guy was like, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Like, who are you? And then I proceeded to give a really crappy reading for the other character, and I never heard back. And I called one of my friends that worked at NBC, and I said, I think I might have screwed this up. He says, what'd you do? And I told him, and he goes, bro, those descriptions don screwed this up. He says, what'd you do? And I told him and he goes, bro, those descriptions don't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:37:08 They literally mean nothing. They're just there as like a placeholder. What are you doing? I don't know. So yeah, so I made that assumption. I made the assumption. You could have been a movie star now. You're stuck. You know what I'm picturing right now
Starting point is 00:37:19 when Michael Rapaport in True Romance was doing that thing? Yeah. Go and shoot him in the face. Right. In the face. She's like, you're very talented, Mr. Exactly. No, thank God that show never got picked up and never went anywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Can you imagine like, it could have been me right there. It could have been me, but I read it for the wrong thing. But never assume that you know what they want you to do. Always walk in, open eyes, open ears, open heart in any situation. To add to that, here's a huge lesson from that. Don't go into business with your friends because they're your friends. Yeah. Develop friendships through business.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Don't do it the other way around. Yeah, a guaranteed way to go broke is to invest in your food friend's bad idea. Because like I said, for example, I've kind of known you guys almost more professionally first than like as much social yeah absolutely i've worked with you over time yeah yeah i'd like you more you know i mean like i would much rather have friendships develop out of business relationships than the other way around because friendships are weird there's a lot of assumptions there's a lot of things you go in and then what happens when shit gets weird
Starting point is 00:38:23 yeah everything we've talked Your friend at the end of the day one of you has to eat shit well, who's it gonna be well? No, no, no, no, no, no, no because you're a good human being cuz like for example On a deal that I eat shit on north of a million bucks I went out and raised a bunch of private equity from friends and you know what I did I paid every nickel of it back out of my pocket and i took the loss they didn't take the loss i took the loss i mean that's and and that if you go in and you're going to solicit money for business from friends you better understand going into it that if
Starting point is 00:38:55 something goes south you're either paying it back or losing the friend or family member that's it i don't care people like oh we're you know we're blood we're family bro you you bang somebody out over 50 grand they ain't calling you no more yeah they don't want to talk to%. I don't care. People are like, oh, we're blood, we're family. Bro, you bang somebody out over 50 grand, they ain't calling you no more. Yeah. They don't want to talk to you anymore. They don't want to see you anymore because all they're going to see, all they're going to hear when they look at you is the lost money. That's it. You screwed up.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Exactly. Be very careful if you're going to go raise money from friends and family. Careful who you play squid games with. That's right. Careful who you play squid games with. If we're in the Marvel game, would you let me win chris absolutely not no no absolutely not like no like you and three didn't look like you and that's what i think people don't realize in life right like i tell people all the time no you can't just go walk around you know people are so naive they think
Starting point is 00:39:43 everybody oh if i'm nice to them, they're going to be nice. No, they'll cut your head off. Yeah. Right? Like you cannot go sit in the middle of Iraq and talk crap or try to hug everybody. And, yeah, half of them will. 90% will.
Starting point is 00:39:54 But that 10% is going to cut your head off. Like going down through Mexico. But in the marble game, so they could play whatever they wanted to play. Right? And at one point, this guy was playing a game. They were playing evens odds, whatever. And he demanded from the guard that they play another game. And the guard granted it, whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:40:16 And he flipped it to a game where you throw a marble into a hole, which was kind of stupid, but whatever. But he felt he had a better chance of winning there. So I guess the business lesson would there be play to your strengths. Like understand what you're good at. Like you just said earlier, understand what you're good at, what you're not good at. If you're not good at something, don't try there be play to your strengths. Yeah. Like understand what you're good. Like you just said earlier, understand what you're good at, what you're not good at. If you're not good at something, don't try to force it to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And like, I always tell people when they're writing business plans, especially in real estate, if, if you are, if you are never going to go knock on a door because you just physically, it makes you ill. The idea of being a door knocker,
Starting point is 00:40:40 don't write door knocking on your damn business plan. Yeah, seriously. Cause you're setting yourself up to fail and it's just never going to happen you've got to put your strengths in every aspect especially business yeah self-aware people that are self-aware acutely self-aware not overly critical or not low self-esteem oh everybody hates that's horseshit i mean really self-aware right they do well because they'll play to their strengths yeah like i'm not there's people that want to be in beauty
Starting point is 00:41:05 pageants that should be in you know mud wrestling competition you know like not everybody uh is going to be good is that is that a fix the teeth before you get the boobs coming is that what that is that where you kind of head it with that that's exactly yeah welcome to vegas i do i think that's like that's the teeth I try to do something during COVID that I'm like, all right, I got to get out of my comfort zone. I'm going to try something, right? And so I put it in my calendar to do at least two or three times a week. And every time it would pop up, I'm like, no, that's how I ended up at Sperm Bank. I'm like, I'd rather go to the Sperm Bank.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But I finally had to take it out because I was just like, I've set myself up for failure. I hate seeing it. Take it off. You know you're never going to do that, Cole. Just stop it. Well, I mean, real growth is about being uncomfortable, but there's a difference between stepping out of your comfort zone and doing something that you loathe. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Social media. We get one spin around this big rock, get one spin around this big rock boys. And if you're spending your day doing things that you loathe, right? What's the point? What's like, I hate social media. I hate posting pictures of myself and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:42:14 but I'll step outside the comfort zone. You got to step outside your comfort zone, but there's different thing. If you were like, I'm going to become a social media magnet and spend my days. And that's different, right? There's a part of your job.
Starting point is 00:42:24 You're not always going to love everything you do, but you got to do it you got to participate but that doesn't mean it needs to be a focus yeah well again within this game of the marble game at one point you had a guy there's this poor indian guy that was really helping everybody out it was very solid very sweet guy top shelf guy and gets absolutely screwed over by the banker guy at the end because he essentially says okay here's what we're gonna do i have a way where we can both live you go this way i'm gonna go that way does a little sleight of hand like well with the thumb coming out a little sleight of hand and of course the pakistani guy winds up with a bag of rocks the other guy winds up with all the marbles and he goes up to the guy and he
Starting point is 00:43:01 says you told me the game was to end up with all the marbles. You didn't say how we had to do it. So technically he cheated the guy, but there was nothing in the rules saying that he couldn't. So that's kind of a tough one for me because part of it is, you know, you should walk through life with integrity. You should try to do things the right way. And always you should try to be fair dealing with others. I mean, if your life's on the line, I mean, you do what you got to do to get to where you want to be. And it's not even a life online that you'll see that from people. And I think more of the business thing to take from that is assume that someone's just going to fuck you and cover your ass all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:40 That's called the Nash equilibrium. Right. No, but I'm saying like people go into stuff all the time. That's called the Nash equilibrium. Right. No, but I'm saying people go into stuff all the time. Hey, we had a deal that the guy was trying to screw everybody. We said, all right, whatever. He assumed that we were going to give an extension.
Starting point is 00:43:55 We had a backup offer ready close three days. We took $70,000 from the guy and he just sat there and I'm like, this isn't, we're not here to make friends. Everybody's cool until they're not. You know John Nash, the guy with the beautiful mind? and i'm like this isn't we're not here to make friends like i gotta look at somebody's cool until they're not you know john nash the guy with a beautiful mind he's a game theorist most famous game theorist there i think there is uh there may be stackleberg uh but john nash had that thing if you're in a multi if you're in a multi-shot game right if you're in a 10 thing game people will calculate when they can fuck you yeah people will calculate
Starting point is 00:44:23 when they're able to fuck you. So because it's a 10-player game, 10-play game, they'll fuck you day one. If I can get 70, 30 or whatever, and then it goes on. But in a game that's infinite, goes on forever, people will be less willing to fuck you. They'll corroborate. There's all these sort of things in game theory. So a lesson to learn too is understand why game theory is what it is and how to actually incorporate it into your business.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Understand that if you're doing a one-shot player with some broker in Kansas City, that there may be different rules going into it and exiting it. That's a weird thing to say. Exiting it. Well, no. And it would be if you're dealing with a broker
Starting point is 00:44:57 who's in Las Vegas that you're going to deal with constantly. Well, but the point is, if it's a long game where there's multiple transactions involved, then you're probably going to play by one set of rules. But if it's a long game where there's multiple transactions involved, then you're probably going to play by one set of rules. But if it's like Highlander, there can be one, which I made my wife watch. You want to piss your wife off?
Starting point is 00:45:13 Oh, man, make her watch Highlander. I feel like Highlander is a must watch for you, Colt. Okay, that's your homework, Colt. Look at Chris's face. You've never seen the Highlander. Do I shock Chris every day? It would blow my mind that you've never seen a Highlander. What is Highlander?
Starting point is 00:45:26 Christopher Lambert. There can be only one. There can be only one, Colt. There can be only one, Colt. Anyway, I don't want to try to explain that premise to you. Anyway, game theory. Understand the players and understand how many games you will be playing with those players before you understand what they'll do.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Again, because that's a good way to analyze what your competition may do or what they may not do is is this an ongoing deal or is this a one-time shot where they're going to do everything they can to get there so good advice but so the marble game goes off half the people get killed um including uh at this point the old man gets whacked uh the girl gets chucked gets clipped a bunch of people get clipped is how that goes and they move on to what is now game five as we're moving along game five is seven never seen highlander episode seven episode this was game five yeah so game five is a it's a bridge all right it's a bridge where it moves it moves along on a bridge and there's there's two panels left and right
Starting point is 00:46:23 one of the panels is tempered which will hold the weight of two players the other panel is normal glass which will shatter and fall and it's like a 200 foot fall right so you met you guessed wrong on the hop right you're done another plot twist looks like you might have just broke your legs you think which would be worse no there was like brains hanging out some some of those people. I'm letting you know, like that fall, like the distance in the game. I'm like, they should have probably gone higher. Suspend your disbelief for a second. So anyway, it starts out in the first part before they show them what they're doing is
Starting point is 00:46:56 you have to pick a number one through 16. We're down to 16 now. I actually know how many people from that down to 16. You got to pick a number one to 16. And it's like, do you pick one and go first and go early and have a better chance of beating the clock like you would have had that green light or do you go 16 and go in the back in the back where you might run out of time because all these things are timed so blah blah blah what happens our hero ends up goofing around too long and ends
Starting point is 00:47:17 up with number 16 so it goes up here they are you're going in order and these people just start like hopscotching onto these panels and smash splat that's what keeps happening so then the next person goes but because you got to see what the person in front of you did you get a little further right is how it goes so it's coming towards the end of the little deal and there's a there's a guy that's like oh i used to be a glass maker i can tell the difference between the glass by the way that the light shines off of it so he starts getting down and he's by now also he didn't think about that no no no no let me get through it let me get through it by now also the vips which are the of course american and russian oligarchs just say crackers crackers have shown up to bet on
Starting point is 00:47:59 these people right evil evil american billionaires have shown up to bet on the games they're there we're in these weird gold masks they're bet on the games they're there we're in these weird gold mats they're betting on it but they're going along and at this point you know this guy is towards the middle he's like oh i can see and they're like and the oligarchs are like he can tell the difference in the pains so they shut the lights off and then one of the guys the banker guy ends up throwing him through the last pain so he knows where it is and he falls and then there's only three left which is the main guy our hero the girl the heroine that went up in the in the vents and the banker that's who's left
Starting point is 00:48:30 but she's kind of hot too yeah she is so that's who's left there and as we go along so so here's the lesson there with this game i'm going to let you start first chris what lesson are you going to take away from that well i will uh take away the very most important lesson is to ride on the shoulders of giants you don't need the trailblaze if there's a proven path okay sometimes that's the least sort of likely way to die um the other thing is um why not jump on the rails yeah i was kind of like why don't you go sideways as well i didn't understand that that was a little thing they why don't you go sideways as well? I didn't understand that. That was the little thing. They'd probably shoot you, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah, but I got a better point, which is this. The biggest problem I had with the whole thing was don't tell people everything you know. Yep, he should have got through before he told people. Don't announce people what you know. I mean, if you have an advantage in a situation keep it to yourself play the advantage but keep it to yourself there was no reason for that guy to tell everybody what was going on he could have done it in a way where it had the same result but he concealed his knowledge a little better i think that was my see for that you know the thing about corroboration you see he didn't know he was playing within the, he would have just gotten through.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Right. Yeah. But again, like you said, no, the players and know the game they're trying to, they're trying to take for themselves. No,
Starting point is 00:49:51 I get it. So you're right. He, he, he showed his case hand. He did. He was benevolent. He was the kind one,
Starting point is 00:49:58 but like Clint Eastwood, we ain't all getting out of here alive. Like Clint Eastwood says, the unforgiven fair has got nothing to do with it. Deserves got nothing to do. Oh, that's right. I didn't deserve this. Deserves got nothing to do with it. Oh, that's right. I didn't deserve this.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Deserves got nothing to do with it. Deserves got nothing to do with it. That's right. And at the end of the day, like you said, and then he mathematically didn't understand that the game required him to improve the odds of others. Yeah. So he was the sacrificial lamb in that,
Starting point is 00:50:19 just like the Pakistani guy. Yeah. Thrown to the wolves, but for the greater good, apparently. For the greater good. For the greater good of the people behind you no no i get it that's how they feel about it i i get it but again yeah follow the path of others is smart find success and don't try you don't have to reinvent the wheel man again youtube the greatest literally the greatest learning tool in the history of human existence is youtube it really is i know how to play 95 of the songs I know how to play 95% of the songs.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I know how to play on guitar because of YouTube. It's amazing what you can learn there. So follow the path of others. Keep your knowledge in situations where it will create an advantage in business to yourself. I'm all about helping out and giving back. But if I'm competing and I know something, for example, I know how to win Monopoly every single time,
Starting point is 00:51:04 which I'll actually share. Would you like to know this? You know, I'll share it with you and I'll share with the listeners. Have you heard this? And I've played her and since destroyed, cause I've read books on Monopoly. You've played. Okay. If you played your wife and she, okay. Then she didn't do this. Right. Okay. Colt, do you not want to Monopoly every time? I've heard it, but go ahead. You need to tell people because let's hear it. It's very simple in Monopoly. The game comes with a certain number of homes. Yes. The little greenhouses.
Starting point is 00:51:29 That's it. There are no additional houses. There's nothing in the rules. There's no provision that allows for additional, like you can't use thimbles. You can't use anything else. Once the houses are on play, they're in play. So what you do is as you start out, you do anything you can. Beg, borrow, steal, trade, buy.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I mean, you mortgage your soul to get a three-place set. It doesn't matter which one it is. It can be the crappy Baltic ones. It doesn't matter. 100%. Start building houses and then never convert them to hotels. If you can do this over two spaces in a four-player game where you have two other players or even in a three-player game where they're also putting houses out, you will create an absolute
Starting point is 00:52:04 housing shortage because the game will run out of houses and you just have to sit back and play it out. That works every time. Yeah, but there are spaces. People don't realize this. Not all spaces are built equal and not all spaces have the highest probability.
Starting point is 00:52:17 There's people that win the Monopoly championships every single year, like poker. Yes, based on which space. It's not the probability of the space. It's understanding highest ROIs per space, like poker. Yes, based on which space. It's not the probability of the space. Understanding highest ROIs per space, per role. There's ways to maximize value in your monopoly game. One of the strategies. What's your favorite color then?
Starting point is 00:52:34 I think the highest land percentages. Are the yellow? Are yellow, green, and orange. Orange. I think orange is also one of the other ones, or red. Have the highest land per space because there's because it's orange because people that are coming out of jail more frequently right because jail is a spot people will go statistically more than free parking like there's all this you
Starting point is 00:52:55 know nerds will ruin everything oh yeah they're trying to ruin basketball they're trying to ruin football right going on fourth down i'm enjoying it but nerds try to ruin everything with numbers. They ruin baseball. They did. They did. Did you like that movie, Moneyball? I read the book, and I loved the book. I'm not a huge Brad Pitt fan. I love Brad Pitt. Why am I not surprised by that, Cole? I'm not surprised at all.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Not surprised at all. The Moneyball movie was okay. I loved the book. Loved it. Good. I loved Liar's Poker, too, by the same author. Got it. All right. Well, moving on. So now we're down to three players.
Starting point is 00:53:30 But Colt, to help you out because you haven't seen it, as they're done with the bridge, at the last second, they explode all the tiles that are remaining. Right? Shrapnel comes flying everywhere at the existing players. The girl player takes one right in the abdomen. Big old shard takes it there. So they put them in the room for the final night. She's literally sitting there bleeding to death. And then they have them go to dinner. So they have a dinner
Starting point is 00:53:52 at this triangular table where they're sitting there and they allow them all to get a knife. Like they clear all the silverware, except each of them has a knife sitting there. And then night, night time, we're going to put you back in the room. They all go into the room. They're sitting there and she has the knife. They all have the knife. So our hero is like a decent human. And I'll say this. He never killed anybody in the whole thing. Although technically he did cheat the old man out of his marbles. Cheated the old man out of his marbles. Cheated the old man out of his marbles, right? That's important to remember that, Colt. Cheated the old man out of his marbles. That's why the old man got killed. But as we go along, they each get a knife knife and then it's that night he goes over to her
Starting point is 00:54:27 saying we should team up against this guy because he's crazy because he saw how he swindled the pakistani guy and got him killed and saw how he threw the guy that could tell the glass through the thing he's like he's a psychopath we should team up and get him and then he realizes she's hurt he goes to the door to try to get her some help from the guards the banker guy comes and slits her throat weren't they friends as kids? Yes, they were friends as kids. That's correct. Slits her throat.
Starting point is 00:54:48 She's done. Two players. Two players left. Move to the final game. It's the squid game, which is, okay. You're going to have to Google this one, because I don't understand it. It fucking sounds like a stupid game.
Starting point is 00:54:58 It is. It's basically run around in circles and try to get your foot in something. It's just some good game. It's kind of like capture the flag, but with your feet in something it's just some kind of capture the flag but with your feet all becoming the specter royale does is evens the playing field where you get to both use your feet yeah something but i don't get it but essentially what they do at the end of this is they say this is how this game this house game works unless one player can't continue
Starting point is 00:55:19 so in other words it's like it's like that's that star trek thing with like william shatner where they just kind of go to killing each other in the gladiator arena while the oligarchs and billionaires from America are sitting there watching them with their thing with their thumbs up. That's what it is. The only thing that's missing is the da-na-na-na, da-na-na-na. That music is their fighting, whatever. They fight for a while, blah, blah, blah. He gets down to where our hero finally gets the advantage where he can kill the guy and he reaches back to stab him and then stabs the dirt because he can't do it. Because I forgot a very important thing.
Starting point is 00:55:47 At any point, if the majority likes, they can vote and the games will end. He's like, let's just end this right now. Let's both go home. And the guy goes, you know what, man? I can't do it. And he takes the knife, the bad guy, and stabs himself in the neck, killing himself. Can't live with what he's done. Can't live with what he's done.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Piece of shit. Yeah. Kills himself. Would you be able to live with what you've done? Yes. Absolutely. Kills himself. Can't live with what he's done. Can't live with what he's done. Piece of shit. Yeah. But could you? Kills himself. Would you be able to live with what you've done? Yes. I could. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Kills himself. Well, the problem is it is voluntary, though. Kills himself. That's the stupid thing about it. So, you know, I don't know that there's any life lesson there. I think, you know, I think I would just say, look. It's never too late for redemption. It's never too late for redemption is a great one.
Starting point is 00:56:21 But I would say, I would say more to the point on that. I would say that if you live an unscrupulous life, if you do things that are unethical, if you live a life of taking advantage of others, at some point, that bill's going to come and do. And it's going to come and do in your head. I was going to say, and then other times you may get voted in. No, no. But I'm just saying. No, you bleeding heart liberal you.
Starting point is 00:56:50 No, I'm not. Any politician. Look at the color of his thigh. I know. We wear the blue tie. Look at the thigh, everything. Jesus. But the reality of it is.
Starting point is 00:57:00 That is any politician, by the way. I will disclaim that. That bill, I think, is going to become due, which is why I think if you look at older people on their deathbeds, have a lot of regrets about their life. It's the number one thing they regret. Not doing stuff. Not spending enough time with the people they love.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yep. That's it. Not telling people they love them. Not letting go of old harboring old ill will. Great lesson in life. Great lesson in business. Yeah. Do not spend your life chasing money when the things that are the most
Starting point is 00:57:29 important are right in front of you. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. No kidding. That's a great lesson. That's right in front of you. So that,
Starting point is 00:57:35 that bill will come due at some point, whether it's you paying it yourself or all day long or in a courtroom where they actually get a judgment that you can enforce, which hopefully will be happening soon. But anyway, yeah. So, I mean, to tighten up the rest of the show, if you haven't seen it, as it turns out, in a weird twist, the front man,
Starting point is 00:57:54 who's the main guy driving the ship, his brother was the cop that broke in, and then he catches him at the end, and he's like, you know why I did it, and then he shoots him. And zero idea what the hell they were talking about there i don't even care no idea honestly i don't think that one just yeah i don't care either i think they just forgot to tighten that up yeah they just here's the other thing too um maybe this is a business lesson but sometimes there's communication barriers like sometimes you just don't understand what people are saying or going because there's a lot
Starting point is 00:58:23 of times in that show I go, that's English writers who speak Korean that are doing their best to give fidelity to the script. But not everything translates. Yeah, not everything translates. Yeah, I had no idea what the hell was happening there. And in the big twist, it turns out the old man that was playing with him the whole time, it was player number one. He was actually the evil mastermind behind the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:58:44 He didn't really get killed in the marble stunt. You saw him get shot it turns out he's the evil guy that's running it our hero that wins the all of money he wins 38 million dollars he's so brain just scrambled from this whole experience that he doesn't spend one dollar of the money or see his daughter which is the only reason well no so then then then he goes then he goes so then at the end of the at the end of the thing he's supposed to see his daughter who's now gone to america and he's you know he come to grips with it because he found out the old man was the evil empire and he somehow this weird thing that makes no sense about somebody getting helped in the faith in humanity and he the old man dies while he's there and then he dies his hair to look like cindy
Starting point is 00:59:22 lopper i don't understand that part either i mean like shocking they just started jumping the shark yeah just just just like just throwing it's like they had a hat like and then he that's a problem stuff goes on in episodes it was it was a family guy episode and then he's supposed to go to america to see his daughter he's getting he hasn't seen like over a year he's going to get on the plane and all of a sudden he's like called to like be the vengeance and take down the whole squid game setting up squid game season two which uh but the guy died and i don't care to see that's it so man that's our assessment of the squid game if you haven't seen it congratulations now you can talk about it at uh at cocktail parties and and not be like the one that's left out there you go hopefully you uh like some of the stuff
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