Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Things to Know About 10x Health - Navigating Personal Health Optimization with Dr John Beedle
Episode Date: April 30, 2024My journey with the 10X Health System took an unexpected turn, and I'm here to share the highs and lows I encountered. When you're promised a transformation and left grappling with disappointments, it...'s the wisdom of friends like Dr. John Beedle that can help steer you back on course. Together, we shed light on what it really means to navigate personal health in today's complex landscape, contrasting the polished promotions with the raw realities we faced.Facing the healthcare system can be a Goliath of a challenge, and it's starkly different for those with deep pockets versus the average Joe. Dr. Beadle's poignant account of his father's battle with type 2 diabetes underscores the glaring gaps in medical advice and the critical importance of tailored healthcare. And it's not just about the science; the response of a healthcare entity to its patrons' feedback can make or break the trust and effectiveness of the patient-care provider relationship.We wrap up with a call to action for anyone striving to take control of their health, offering a treasure trove of insights into the ethical use of supplements, the potential of peptides and testosterone in fitness, and the sheer willpower behind completing an ultra-endurance feat like an Ironman triathlon. Plus, we share a sneak peek into the world of functional medicine through my own lens, as a practitioner determined to treat patients with the individualized care they deserve. Join us for this heartfelt expedition through the trials and triumphs of seeking optimal health.Highlights:(00:39 - 02:00) Personal Experience With 10X Health(09:24 - 10:33) Medical Consultation and Supplement Recommendations(14:28 - 15:42) Medical Miscommunication and Refund Resolution(16:55 - 17:41) Health System Challenges and Autoimmunity(22:33 - 23:24) The Impact of Listening in Healthcare(28:12 - 29:22) Value of Individualized Health Science(38:48 - 39:57) Performance Enhancing Drug Costs and Supplements(44:05 - 45:17) Parenting Struggles With Junk Food(51:19 - 52:12) Supplement Dosage and Athletic Performance(58:57 - 59:52) Health and Wellbeing ImportanceCHAPTERS (00:04) Navigating the 10X Health System(12:19) Personalized Health and Anti-Aging Options(20:48) Diverse Experiences in Functional Medicine(25:11) Supplement Discussion With Medical Professional(35:23) Health Optimization and Wellness Consultation(45:56) Peptides and Testosterone in Fitness(53:56) Ultra Ironman(59:52) Escaping the Drift Episode Update💬 Did you enjoy this podcast episode? Tell us all about it in the comment section below! ☑️ If you liked this video, consider subscribing to Escaping The Drift with John Gafford 💯 About John Gafford: After appearing on NBC's "The Apprentice", John relocated to the Las Vegas Valley and founded several successful companies in the real estate space.➡️ The Gafford Group at Simply Vegas, top 1% of all REALTORS nationwide in terms of production. Simply Vegas, a 500 agent brokerage with billions in annual sales Clear Title, a 7-figure full-service title and escrow company.➡️ Streamline Home Loans - An independent mortgage bank with more than 100 loan officers. The Simply Group, A national expansion vehicle partnering with large brokers across the country to vertically integrate their real estate brokerages.✅ Follow John Gafford on social media:Instagram ▶️ / thejohngaffordFacebook ▶️ / gafford2🎧 Stream The Escaping The Drift Podcast with John Gafford Episode here:Listen On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cWN80gtZ4m4wl3DqQoJmK?si=2d60fd72329d44a9Listen OnApple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/escaping-the-drift-with-john-gafford/id1582927283 *************#10XHealthSystem, #PersonalHealth, #HealthcareSystem, #FunctionalMedicine, #Supplements, #Peptides, #Testosterone, #PersonalizedHealthcare, #Anti-aging, #BloodChemistry, #Nutrition, #HormoneLevels, #GrowthHormones, #WeightLoss, #TrainingResources, #Escaping the Drift
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And now, Escaping the Drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you
want to be.
I'm John Gafford, and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets
to help you on a path to greatness.
So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now.
Back again, back again for another episode of Escaping the Drift, man. The show
that gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And today, man, this is a weird show for me.
It's a weird, weird show because it's something I don't want to do. It's something I feel I have to
do. It's not necessarily like a public warning. It's not trying to encourage you not to use this particular
business. It's just something that if I would have known this stuff that I'm going to tell you guys
today, prior to doing this, I probably would not have done it. And again, this is a, I'm sure
there's wonderful things about this business. I just want to tell you my personal experience with said business. So we go forward. And that business is the 10X Health System.
And the thing that you see owned by Gary Brekka, again, dude, so much of what this guy says,
I really like. There's a lot of his protocol that we have instituted into our daily life.
And then when I finally decided to go all in with
the 10X Health System and get it done, I want to just share my experience with you. And again,
not to dissuade you from using this business, because I'm not that big of a dick where I want
to see somebody fail. But again, I think you should just kind of go into it with some eyes
open of some things. And in the studio today with us today, one of
my dear friends that actually helped me sort through the mess of this after it gone and is
helping me going on, and we're going to talk about what you can do, is Dr. John Beadle in
the studio with us today. Pull that mic a little closer. So we go live. What's up, Beadle?
How we doing, everybody? Thank you so much for having me.
You bet, dude. So first of all, I'm going to walk you through my story with 10X Health,
and then we'll kind of get to you and talk about what we're doing and how that goes forward and
some problems that I see with what happened here. So like a lot of you guys, so my friend Sean Kelly
also has a podcast out there. Love Sean. And I saw that he had Gary Brekka on and I was like, cool.
I'm like us ranking in the top 20 for entrepreneurship and being pretty good.
I thought maybe I could get Gary Brekka on as well.
Started kind of reaching out.
I thought, you know what?
I'm going to do this a better way.
Instead of trying to cold call him to come on the podcast, I want to kind of go through
the process of what his system is, fall in love with it because I don't like to endorse
products on here that I don't really know about or I don't love.
I don't like to do that. If I'm going to tell you something's good,
I'm going to tell you it's good because it is good. So I said, I'm going to sign up for 10X
Health. So I got from Sean who had gone through it, I got the name of the person over there to
set it up and I went all in and they said, what do you want to do? And I said, I want to do the
blood test and I want to do the gene test. And for those two tests, it was north of $1,200.
So as soon as I signed up very, very quickly, a local person here that was really nice. She was great. Came right to the office, took my blood, took the swab, signed off the forms. This was
inside of maybe three or four days of getting this done. And she said, yep, here's what's going to
happen. You'll be up. Your portal will be ready. You can
see what's kind of going on. And then from there, you know, the doctors will be in touch with you
and that's how it goes. And I said, okay, I don't know what my expectation was as far as, you know,
dealing with Gary Brekka or Dr. Gary, I don't know if it was Dr. Gary Brekka. We're just calling him.
I don't know. We're going to call him, we're going to call him Dr. We'll call. Gary Brekka, we'll just call him. I still have no idea. I don't know. We're going to call him doctor. We'll call him Gary Brekka because I don't know if he's a doctor.
I don't want him to speak.
But I kind of thought, here I am.
I've got referred by this guy.
You're on this podcast.
I got a big podcast.
I assumed I was going to talk.
I was going to assume I would be dealing with him.
I would get to talk to him.
I would not.
In my opinion, unless you are someone that has incredible reach,
more than a top 20 podcast on Apple, and has a billion dollars like Dana White, you're not going to talk to Gary. You're
not going to talk to him. You're never going to talk to the guy. So going into it, just understand
you're not going to talk to that guy. Now he may have the people that work underneath him.
The people he's trained may be equally as versed in everything that he is. Maybe, I don't know,
but I'm just going to say if you're expecting, that was my fault that was my my number one ruined expectation off the
bet was i i thought i was gonna get to talk to him you hear dana white the guy saved my life he
turned everything around i'm like man this is gonna be great and then nope you're never gonna
get to talk to him that's not how this You're going to talk to one of the other people. So I'm like, okay. So I start waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. And you're
talking about a really long time. I mean, this became weeks, became into months, and they give
you a portal to log into. And I'm checking my portal every single day. Every single day,
I'm checking my portal. Every day, I'm checking my portal. My results come back.
My results come back.
Every day, I'm looking.
And then I'll come back.
And then one magical day, Beatle, one magical day, my results come in.
Now, granted, how this is supposed to work, I guess, is when your results come in,
then you schedule a time to speak with a provider, which at the time that my results came in,
and I'm going to explain to you why I immediately wanted to talk to a provider. They say that
scheduling can take weeks, if not up to a month to get to talk to somebody. Now, when I got my
results and I have them on my hand here, I look back, they all look pretty normal. Like there's
some things that you obviously, you know, I can read this. It's not that complicated as far as
what you need. But then as I'm flipping through this thing, I get to this page on the back, which says now,
now how they do this. I don't know if you can see this. I'm going to, I'm going to go in the
two shot here and see if I can see how they do this. But if you're looking at this online,
it's really just kind of a graph where over here on the left is low or a certain number,
and then it gets red or whatever. There's green, yellow, red, just like
a stoplight would be. And there's like a little graph with a little number on it based on wherever
you fall with whatever you're doing. Well, when I got to this liver page, right, all of my other
results on this were pretty normal in the green, maybe a couple sort of, maybe a little bit on the
yellow, but this liver thing that said ALT SGPT said 57 UIL and it was
through the roof high, right? On their little chart, it's all the way off the end of the chart
in the red. So me being me, I'm like, I want to talk to somebody about this right now. What does
it mean? So when you can't talk to a provider, what do we do we go to dr google and dr google told me that i had liver cancer
it's what dr it's what dr google tells me i have liver cancer i am freaking out i'm freaking out
i'm calling them i'm saying i need to talk to somebody right away about this of which the
response that i got from these guys which understand your schedule understand your them, I'm saying, I need to talk to somebody right away about this. Of which the response
that I got from these guys, which understand your schedule, understand you're a marketing machine,
understand you have a gazillion people doing this. Probably at this point,
they gave me the right advice, which is if you are concerned about any of your tests,
you need to contact a local health provider. So I immediately, immediately call and like book some favors
to try to get into a liver doctor. I guess a urologist, whoever went and saw, whoever this was
freaking out, thinking I have liver cancer. Like, holy shit, I need an MRI today. I need whatever.
I need a CAT scan. I need something. I need something. I need chemo like today because
I'm going to die. I go in with these results in hand and the doctor looks at it and they go, this is not
like 57 IU per liter.
You could have had a drink two days before and spiked it like this.
Absolutely.
Like one drink would have done this.
Yeah.
Within one drink, actually within 48 hours could have spiked that or even excessive exercise.
Yeah.
So immediately I'm freaking out, right?
I'm like, so here I went through 48 hours of thinking I had liver cancer to now this, the way that this is written, like literally I could have just had one drink and
been fine. Yep. So now I'm like, immediately I'm kind of like, you know what? Maybe, maybe
that's not for me. So I immediately called the person that was in charge of me in the get go.
And it kind of explained my situation to them about what happened. And they were very nice again. And still my genetic test, not back. And they're telling me
that because in the answer that I, the answer that I got from them was because their business
had blown up so much. They were, they, they personally had put the labs so far behind with
what they're doing. And that one statement kind of stuck with
me because I agree with that statement. And I think anytime that you have a business that grows
so virally, so quickly, the way that he has, and I mean, dude, when you got Dana White,
who looks fantastic, and I'm saying that everything they did for him absolutely worked,
but yet everybody that could afford,
you know, $1,250 for these tests, probably me included, jumping on the bandwagon,
I just don't believe they had the infrastructure at the time to facilitate this, right? So they
begged me and they said, okay, listen, we get it. Would you be, you know, would you be willing to
at least meet with somebody who's great to go over this stuff and hear about it. Now, in the meantime, I have also, and I look back, it was on January 15th, I sent,
called you, and we'll get into who you are in just a second and why you're
capable of reading this stuff. I said, would you look at some blood tests for me?
Would you look at some blood work for me? And you looked at it immediately and I called you
and you started making a bunch of recommendations. You said, we're going to do all this, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. I said, okay, cool. So when I got on the phone,
how they do it is a two-step process. They have like the doctor person, we'll say,
and then they got the closer, right? The honeypotter.
Yeah. So you got the doctor person, then the closer person. So they get me on with the doctor
person who essentially tells me the same exact stuff that you did. There was nothing different than what they told me about these, about these tests
results than what you told me. Nothing different. Um, with the exception of saying that, uh,
going on some form of like semi-glutide or one of those would, would, would accelerate some weight
loss. It's the only thing you did not say that they did all right then you get on the phone with the roper i guess he is the the closer
who's is the med closer and starts laying out your supplement plan i keep in mind i've been on
i mean shit i'm 52 years old there's no shame in my game i've been on testosterone replacement
therapy for years it's what you do right it's how we keep our manliness. Now don't judge me. It's what you do.
If you're not on it yet, keep laughing. You will be. So yeah, I mean, I've been paying for this
stuff forever. I already know what this stuff costs. And the 10X for me and 10X health was the
cost of these supplements. It was 10X more expensive than anything else that I have ever
seen or taken or what I could get
elsewhere. And I think some of that, again, not saying it doesn't work. I love the protocol with
the EWOT training, the red light therapy and the grounding mat. I have all of that stuff.
I have all of that stuff because I saw Gary Brekka talk about it. I did not purchase any
of it from them because i found it all
exponentially less expensive somewhere else it's like going to walmart or target yes 100 well no
it's like going to sax or going to walmart is the difference right again so if you're going to go
into this if you if the things that i wish somebody would have told me again not bashing this business
that i'm sure they do great things you see they do great things but wish somebody would have told me, again, not bashing this business, that I'm sure they do great things. You see they do great things.
But if somebody would have told me up front, it's going to take a really long time to get
your blood work back.
It's going to take a really long time for you to schedule with somebody.
Supplements are going to be really expensive and you're never going to talk to Gary Brucka.
I don't know that I would have done this.
Right? So what am I doing instead? And what can you do? That's 10 minutes of that. And again, if you're, there's
probably people out here that I know, I have friends of mine that are disciples of this thing.
I have friends of mine that deal with Gary Brucka that are great. I don't need to hear it. I get it.
I'm just saying the average Joe's experience is probably going to
be closer to mine than what the billionaire experience is. I don't know. I'm not saying
that. I'm not here to bash him. But my point is there's lots of things you can do for anti-aging,
hormone replacement, for things to help yourself. And you can find somebody in your local market
that understands this stuff, that knows how
to do this stuff and can get you right and can get you right on a much more personal basis than a
national company that is just hammering the gram every day with marketing. Every day. So enter Dr.
John Beadle. You got to speak up. Beadle they can hear you. You got to speak with force or people are going to only hear me and not hear you.
You got it.
Dr. John Beadle.
So you're my guy here locally.
I want to talk about your background a little bit, talk about how you got into this, your
experience, and then we'll go from there.
So let's talk about you, my man.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I'd love to talk about that.
So a little bit about me.
So I'm a chiropractic physician.
While I was in chiropractic school uh my dad was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes okay and i watched that
process of him going into the hospital i was there with him uh he had so for type 2 diabetes what we
look at in medicine is polyuria dysphagia and then we look at labs right so and he had fructose
where his pee was like maple syrupy
and it smelled fruity right excessive thirst everything so we go in and i'm like dad you're
urinating like over 12 times a day right you have excessive thirst you are eating your diet is just
not on point and granted i'm from small town wyoming right so like i'm not kidding like he
had no idea that getting a chicken sandwich from mcdonald's wasn't fast food because it wasn't
a cheeseburger and fries you see what i'm saying yeah that was that was the healthy side of the
menu yeah yeah or like getting a salad from wendy's that's covered in dressing you know but
so with the soda you see what i'm saying like or getting biscuits and gravies from carl's jr
he didn't understand that that wasn't fast food and that's crazy because it's such a huge portion of the population don't really understand that right so we go to the
hospital he gets his blood work done i go in with him because i'm like there's just something not
right here and the doctor goes dave you know your glucose is a little high right your liver enzymes
they're right borderline i think just take this booklet and do some nutrition i go wait a second
he's dyslexic like and that's in wait a second. He's dyslexic.
Like, and that's in his medical notes. This man is dyslexic and you're giving him a nutrition booklet to read, to read. It might as well be in Chinese. It doesn't matter. It's like your dad.
Here's an audio book. He can't exactly. He can't read it. So I'm like, what else can we do for him?
And this is me just as kid at the time. So I'm like, I still like, I don't want to speak over
a medical provider, but I'm also like, there's something wrong here. Right. And your lab results. Yeah. They might not
fit the model based off of insurance. And that's a whole nother topic that we could talk about.
But so they send him home. You know what? You know, I hate to cut you off, but I got to say
something before I forget to say it that I did not say that I did not say about 10 X health.
I did ask for a full refund on this and they refunded me
half my money for the blood test and then i bumped them again just reminding saying hey i didn't get
the full refund they did refund all of my money so they were good about that i'm so sorry right
in the middle of that story but i just felt i hate to do a business dirty like that without
saying 100 of the story that happened so they did refund all my money sorry back to dad's glucose
no but you know what like going off what you just said like this is going to enhance either their product or
enhance people's experience with either finding someone locally right so yeah it's not bashing
this is just business right and it's just talking about our experience right and it's not no hard
no foul with them right but so with my dad right so gets his lab results back we leave and he's
like well doctor said i'm good and i'm like if you're good
why the fuck would you go to the doctor sorry if i don't know if i'm i'm a normal person i've got
tattoos like i guess i'm the most unprofessional professional you're fine you're gonna be okay
so so i'm like if you were fine why the hell did we go there i said something's not right here right
and then so i go back to school i get a phone call oh yeah so six months later yep john they diagnosed me type 2
diabetes and i'm like dude you had all the symptoms of type 2 diabetes yeah you should have been on
like nutrition lifestyle modification all these things should have been addressed on it but again
well the doctor didn't say that so fast forward it took my dad four years to die from type two diabetes, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, cirrhosis, dialysis, gangrene, losing half his life, death, right?
Oh my God.
Type two diabetes.
Right now in America, I think I just read the statistic.
There was a study done, I believe in 2021.
Out of 10 Americans, six out of 10 have one autoimmunity.
Four out of 10 have more than one. How crazy is
that? Are you of the, are you of the agreement of Robert F. Kennedy that our food is killing us?
Uh, I think that it's more than just our food. I think it's kind of the whole system, man.
Cause when you think about it again, let's use the medical system, the insurance based model
with my dad. Oh, he didn't fit the criteria, man. I've had patients that have had their
gallbladder functioning at 35% and they won't do anything until it's at 33% functioning.
You see what I'm saying? So it's all numbers and we're being told by people that don't necessarily
practice medicine in these insurance companies what we're approved for. And this kind of ties
in with this whole situation. I love the concept of what Gary Brekka does. However, it's really
powerful marketing. You have 10X and Grant Cardone backing you up. Holy shit. Yeah, of course people
want to do that, right? Everyone wants to have the nicest things. I don't care who you are. People
say, I don't care about material things. Well, you care about a good experience regardless. People
want to have a good experience. So if they want to, whether it's a Bentley or they want to see Gary Brekka, they want to have the nicest experience because as humans, this is what we
want. Right. So people go see this marketing scheme and everything like that. And with my dad,
you know, that just flipped a switch on me. I was like, okay, sports and chiropractic are really
cool. Right. I want to learn more about medicine.
So then I did a deep dive into seeing what I can do as a chiropractic physician with my scope of practice.
So chiropractors, we're, underneath federal law, we are licensed as physicians, right?
Certain states, we're primary care providers.
Certain states, I could deliver babies.
God forbid I would never do that and did not have enough training on that.
But if you did, cool, more power to you if you want to do that.
And in a lot of states, we're allowed to order blood work, blood, urine, stool,
hair, saliva testing. You just can't do a full diagnosis. Now there's some practitioners out there that I think just like any business, there's good janitors and bad janitors, right?
There's good doctors and there's bad doctors, right? People have good experiences and bad
experiences. It's all about what,
where are you at with your ego and what are you comfortable with doing? And are you comfortable with referring out? Well, I think too, but before anybody, you know, listens to this and wants to
say, Oh, he's a chiropractor. This guy's always talking about, okay. You spent, you spend a lot
of time around some of the best athletes literally on the planet. Yes. So kind of getting into that,
right. So I know I get the chiropractic card all the time. And then when people talk to me,
they're like, Oh, Oh, you are not what I think. I actually trust you more than my primary kid.
A little more to the old story there than this. A little more of the story.
Yeah. So a little bit on my background, um, you know, went to Northwestern health science
university in Minneapolis. It's the most medically sound chiropractic school in the United States. We have MDs teaching us,
DOs teaching us, PTs teaching us, registered dietitians, naturopaths, people that are in
the field where we need to be learning from, not a chiropractor that didn't really make it out in
the field. And then it's like, okay, I passed infectious disease. I could teach these chiropractors.
We didn't have that. You're being taught by an okay, I passed infectious disease. I could teach these chiropractors. We didn't have that.
You're being taught by an infectious disease provider, infectious disease.
Right.
So that's why I chose the school that I went to because I didn't want to have, I guess, that stigma. But it follows you everywhere.
And whoever wants to listen and have their opinion, that's totally fine.
But so being an ex-professional athlete, right, and a college athlete, I always had, you get nice things when you're an athlete in America, right?
So after I was in chiropractic school, I was like, okay, I want to make sure I fully submerge into this experience of functional medicine and just medicine in general.
So I interned down at the Salvation Army in downtown Minneapolis.
And let me tell you, working in Summerlin is way easier than working in downtown Minneapolis, right? You see everything, right? From homeless people to you could, my wife,
this is a funny story off topic, but she used to treat this guy for three months straight.
And in this clinic, you could tell me your name is Bob Marley. I couldn't question it.
She treated this guy. He was wanted for murder with his five, for murdering his five kids
in Missouri. And she'd been treating him for three
months she goes to adjust him five u.s marshals walking and they're like you're under arrest and
she goes what did i do it's this guy right so it's wild stuff and then interning you know in
hospitals right i spend a lot of time in the hospital system because i want to know when i
need to refer out and i want to know when it's okay to keep this person out of the hospital
system. Because when you go to the hospital system, what's the biggest problem right now
that people are experiencing? Well, my doctor said, I'm fine. I don't feel fine. Or they leave
unhappy. And then they wait months, weeks to get into this appointment just to see this practitioner
for seven minutes, just to say, no, you're good. Okay. I'm going to send you somewhere else. Then
you wait two to three more months. Like, I'm like, what the hell are we doing
here? Right. So that's what kind of got me into functional medicine. So in chiropractic school,
I did an additional 300 hour diplomate to learn about blood chemistry, nutrition,
testing, everything. Right. So I did that. So when I graduated from chiropractic college, I was fully ready to go. I had my certificates and I had my degree. And then I wanted to find
a state where I could practice to the fullest of my ability and my scope. So then I just graduated.
I did the AFMCP through the Institute of Functional Medicine, which is with Dr. Mark Hyman
and a bunch of old school functional medicine practitioners. It's like one of the gold standards of functional medicine that in functional medicine university.
So that's really what got me into blood work, right?
I had that family experience.
And then I had right after my dad passed away,
my brother Davey passed away six months after from alcoholism.
Oh, man.
And my brother Davey's system system that was all lifestyle modifications and people
need to listen to him right like you just never know there's some things that you can actually do
that can change someone's life in a second by just having more time to sit and listen to the patient
right if someone could have spent more time listening to him could have been like okay i
don't think rehab is the best thing for you i I think you might need therapy. You see what I'm saying? Finding that right network,
but you have to have the time to treat these people, right?
And that's the thing.
So going back to kind of the 10X system,
again, it's a great model.
It's really, really hard for the general public to do that.
And there's a lot of providers out there
that do work just like that, right?
So at a fraction of the cost but you i mean
when you you started working you worked you worked at dragon's lair which for those of you that don't
know what dragon's lair is if you're in vegas you know what it is dragon's lair is flex lewis's
yep so jim and and who's flex uh flex lewis is basically the tom brady of bodybuilding he's
seven time mr olympia uh he's his gym yes so i i worked
at the dragons there right when they first opened up love flex love justin diesel all those guys
they're amazing people um i've worked on just about every single olympian bodybuilder that you
guys see on youtube i've been in their youtube videos been on their instagram um i've got worked
on guys on the golden knights yeah um i've been the strength and conditioning coach and secondary provider for the Las Vegas Desert Dogs that's the lacrosse team
here for those of you don't know team here sorry everybody um I also have guys in the PFL guys in
the UFC I have ultra marathon runners I have super famous celebrities and they're not just coming to
get their back cracked I mean they're coming absolutely not I mean I think some of them are
a little bit weirdos and they just want my hands on them but i'm just kidding
now i'm creeped out i know right yeah i know you gotta watch out for those people but then you know
at the same time though i've it's just been such an experience because hearing from all these people
you know dr beetle that's just my guy that's who I go to for everything. Right. And
even with my general population, like I love all my patients, but there's a lot that took
to get into this and there's a lot of education and there's a lot of sacrifices I made at a
younger portion of my career to get to where I'm at. And I'm just wanting to get started,
you know, like, well, I can tell you the biggest, here's the biggest change that the thing that i never
thought i could do that now i'm doing that you let's give myself shots dude i swear to god we
were first doing this and i was like i'm telling my wife i'm like ah because in my trt i don't i
was go to a place yeah right i was always going to a place and the thing about me was because i'm
so busy i'm that guy that would like look up at 630 on a Friday and go, oh, I missed my shot.
No, I don't.
And like, so the first time, bro, I had to like psych myself up.
I'm like, what?
I'm like psyching.
And it was like nothing.
Right.
And I'm like, I could totally do this.
Like, not a big deal.
It's all about like the preconception of it and the education on it too, right?
Because we have in America,
we have this model where it's like,
I have to go to the doctor for this.
And it's like,
actually,
if we do it right,
we can educate you on how to perform these tasks.
And then we could show you how to do it on your own with prescription based
medicine,
telehealth medicine,
or even in-person medicine.
Right.
So a little bit kind of,
I guess on what you and I have done.
Right.
So you called me on that test. I reviewed it. I'll never forget that day. It was
right in between one of my patients. And you're like, I have an urgent question for you. Yeah.
Cause I was, I was dying of liver cancer. John Gafford calls you fucking answer the phone.
You answer the phone. So I answered the phone. I'm like, I will be right with you. One second.
Answer the phone. We go over your labs and I'm like, man, I see athletes for their ALT at like 110.
You're good.
But looking at a graph like that without education, it's scary.
Oh my God.
Am I dying?
Yeah.
So like with my patients, when I get their labs, I make sure that once I receive your
lab, you come in with me.
We have a 45 minute appointment. I print off a copy of your lab, you come in with me. We have a 45-minute appointment.
I print off a copy of your lab.
We sit in my office.
I pull it up on the TV and I call it my Zodiac killer board, my black white board.
I go over every single marker top to bottom with them.
That way they have an understanding that they don't need to know the chemistry,
but they need to understand what's on their lab,
what's on that piece of paper when they're going home,
and then what we're going to do to help them
and where we're going to refer them if necessary.
Well, let's talk about, let's put levels to this thing, if we will.
Let's do it.
All right, so the first level I want to talk about is I'm talking to you,
talking to you out there.
And let's say you're in this situation.
Let's say, man, right now you're struggling. Right now economy's say you're in this situation let's say man right now you're struggling right now
economy's got you down right now you're getting beat up by everything maybe i don't have the
money to go get labs maybe i don't have the money to go get no stuff what are the like if you had
to pick supplements across the board that people are normally deficient in i mean i'm gonna guess
i'm gonna throw out the ones that i think okay that you think that everybody should take i'm gonna say i'm gonna say three of these i think everyone
should take and you tell me if i'm wrong okay i think everybody should take every day liquid
vitamin b12 i think everybody should take vitamin d every day and i think everybody should take
magnesium every day how is that am? Am I wrong about it?
You tell me.
I'm going to sound like such a turd.
No, please.
This correlates to a funny story.
So my mom, she's old school RN, right?
John, I need B vitamins.
And this is how much I care about my patient's dollar and their time.
I go, why do you need B vitamins?
Why do you think I need them?
And I go, well, can we order labs?
Because when I have lab
work for my patients, I keep my labs just about at the cost that I get it for. Every single test,
whether it's a stool test, urinary analysis, Nutriva, anything, and even blood work, I keep
it right around the price that I get it at. So I'm like, mom, here's the deal. The reason why
I don't want to just give you B vitamins right now is because sometimes it lets us say because i'm bad at math that b vitamins 100 bucks a month and you've been
taking it for 12 months but you actually didn't need it and that's just 1200 right there where
we could have done a 250 blood work test and we figured out what you actually needed based off
the individual right i think sometimes what happens in podcasts is like people like oh yeah
they're like they're they talk about amazing science and those studies are so cool but let's
talk about the individual that's why people want to do that it's based off the individual right so
when we could do individual health science that is a better way of looking at things right because
there's some people out there you tell them to take a vitamin D,
their vitamin D is over 100,
you can start getting vertigo symptoms, right?
So I wouldn't want to have someone taking vitamin D.
Certain people, if they're on heart medication,
and see the people are going to be like,
damn, this chiropractor is talking about this.
No, no, no, no, dude.
But this is the point.
If you're on certain heart medications,
taking too much magnesium, well, that could kill you.
So that's not a good idea so so
it's an old dr john don't take any of that shit just uh eat fast food and uh you know well you
know so so i so i so i'm i'm a little bit of a realist right so all right fine let's be a realist
that's that was my point right so i won't be guessing any more medications today by the way
i'm uh i'm officially that was a strong offer so dr gafford over here i'm gonna get
a lawsuit because somebody's gonna take too much magnesium and die and you know but but that stuff
is all super beneficial for you two at the same time and like people in these podcasts their
intentions are to help people i absolutely get that but i'm over here and i'm like i don't eat
i just look at my dad's situation like i don't even want to waste your time or your money. Let's give you what you need based off your labs.
But not only what you need, because sometimes what happens when you get these lab results,
they send you, your life is already, if you're going to get blood work done, you're probably
not feeling well or something's not right.
Right.
Very rarely is it just, just because.
Right.
And those are normally younger kids and they'll live.
They're still like rubber bands basically. it's all downhill after 30 but when you get those tests
they give you anywhere from 5 to 10 plus supplements i did not make your life easier
i just added 5 to 10 more things to someone's life that doesn't feel good yeah and they also didn't have a lot of time
being told what they need they're just here you go here's his pamphlet that's just like my dad
being dyslexic for some people reading that they're like what is this in fairness the lady
was very thorough when i taught when i talked to her she was very thorough before i got to the
closer she was and i'm not saying that she was not i'm just saying the timing of it was my biggest issue right and what i'm saying is more so like not even just
with like a 10x health thing even when you walk into some of these functional medicine clinics
people are just like whoa they just use a lot of really big fancy words and sometimes you know i
hear it all the time like patients are like i'm scared to ask my medical provider questions
why that's what you're paying me for.
You're paying me to come in here, ask me questions about your health. I'm here to answer them. And if I don't know it, that's such a great question, Mrs. Jones. Let me press pause and let me do some
research on that. If it's something that I think is going to harm you right now, I'm going to refer
you out right this second. But if it's not, let me just do a little bit of research on this,
make sure we're going to be good. And let me do a little bit of a deeper dive into this based
off of your case. So back to my original question, what are the supplements, the average Joe that
maybe can't afford to do this right now? What should they be taking? That's a very good question.
So personally, this is how I am again. So testing is thought to be very expensive, right? I think
some people are like, oh, don't get testing here.
I don't care where you get your testing done.
Learn something about your body.
There's little tests that you can get at Target
for like 40 bucks, right?
There's little tests,
salivary tests for testosterone,
anything like that.
You can get tests done
at Walmart, Target,
things like that.
You just buy them right off the shelf.
Really?
Absolutely, man.
Absolutely.
It'll show you what you're,
like your deficiency in vitamins?
Yeah, there's certain tests that can.
So I think a true test for that
would be more of an organic acid test,
which is urine and serum.
But again, we're talking about like low hanging fruit.
This is my level one.
Level one.
I think a very good level one base
would be to see,
but you got to be careful with Dr. Google, right?
Okay, Dr. Google.
I would say if you can afford it, number one,
get into either a provider's office that does either functional medicine
or something outside of maybe a primary care health system
where you're not actually severely sick, right?
But if you can get on Google comfortably, not get freaked out, right,
by what you're reading and understand, well, my headache is not necessarily a brain tumor.
But again, you can't rule that in or out, right?
Then I would start off with, I would start off, but it might be.
I got a funny story about that too.
Anyway, so I would start off, number one, water and electrolytes.
Those are great, right?
And when I say electrolytes, like magnesium, sodium, potassium, but potassium but not too much right there's electrolyte packets those would be great
and not even taking the whole electrolyte packet i would start off with just half of it right oh god
i drink they're like the relight electrolytes yeah or like the elements or i bet i drink
six scoops of that a day okay well we do live in is that probably too much i would say
that's probably a little too much i'd have to look at the dosage on it because i don't know
because i i drink that i drink the equivalent of a gallon of water with that chinnered every day
right yeah so like it just depends on like the case right and it depends on our workload
so like for me and it's really hard for me to answer do i look like i'm sweating up in this
i'm not sweating in here.
No, not at all.
That's where it's like, it's hard to, it's hard for me to answer that question because I'm such a stickler about like, tests don't guess, right?
Even if it is just like an easy, low entry over the counter thing, I'm someone where
it's like, if we really want to figure out what you need, like I said, I really value
your time and dollars.
So instead of, if I were to tell you to go need. Like I said, I really value your time and dollars. So instead of,
if I were to tell you to go buy three supplements right now,
that would be probably close to a hundred dollars,
right?
If you could find a medical provider or a way to get a blood work test done
for a hundred dollars,
that's what I would recommend.
So let's talk about the tests that I would recommend.
Okay.
A CBC with a differential.
Okay.
A CMP.
Sounds like some shit.
You found an 18 wheeler, got the CBC with a differential. It sounds, CMP. Sounds like some shit you found in an 18-wheeler.
CBC with a differential.
It might burn the pee with one of those things.
Yeah, so CBC with a differential.
A CMP.
Okay.
I would order an insulin.
Okay.
Because insulin resistance is on the rise,
and insulin resistance leads to metabolic syndrome.
Yeah, that's our food killing us.
It's huge.
You've got to look at that.
And I would probably look at,
I mean, depending on if you're a female,
if you're a female and maybe look at like estradiol
just because then the testing
kind of gets a little expensive.
And if you're a male,
then I'll maybe look and see if you,
just take a look at your test, right?
Because every guy wants to know how their test is, right?
Yeah.
Every guy just wants to know.
I would start off with an entry level test
within a $ 100 price range
okay once you get that test while you while you get the blood work done so just to kind of run
you through like my process and this is nothing against their process at all by any means right
i mean your family's done labs with me right so you know you come to see me you have a 45 minute
consult after that 45 minute consult
i'll send you a lab requisition at the end of the day you literally walk into a lab core you're in
and out in five minutes i get your results within four to five business days and then we get you in
but again like if i was going to make one change like okay let's talk about changes i would make
for 10x health just to help them out number one these results should not hit your portal before
somebody can talk to you about them 100 agree with this is exactly why if you remember like
what was it 23 and me the genetics thing yep right they got in so much trouble freaks people
up because they were just putting stuff up like i don't well yeah they that that and they had to
stop doing it like they could not put those results up without having you
know a medical you know representative they're available to go over with you and i think
that's something that i would change if i was a hundred percent agree and i think like all forms
of medicine like man that would be like we could use real estate as an example right i don't know
anything about real estate that would be like me looking at all my real estate paperwork that
i want to pay
you guys to do before anything is signed.
Cause then I'm like,
whoa,
what the hell does this mean?
I can misinterpret that when you can look at it and be like,
John,
relax.
That's,
that's a no big deal.
But to me,
I don't understand it.
So it would freak me out.
Yeah.
And then therefore that causes stress within the situation.
Remember that when you hire a realtor,
that's what you're paying.
That's what you're paying for.
Shut up and let them do their job. Righttor. That's what you're paying them for.
Shut up and let them do their job. Right there.
Let us do our job.
Shut up.
I'm just kidding.
But yeah, like going off that, man,
I think low-hanging fruit stuff,
it's just hard for me to say
just because I literally,
I won't even give my mom B vitamins
unless I say that
just because I don't want her to waste her money.
But I would invest that money into a test that you can afford that would give you good answers.
Well, let's, let's get, let me shift the question back. Let's go to level two then. So obviously
it's the same thing. You're getting the test done and it just, it's just the levels to the game
become how much you can afford to do this. And you start out of course with level one is going
to be supplements and maybe TRT maybe your basic your book then up
from there is where it starts getting really expensive that's where you start getting into
peptides you start getting into uh human growth hormone that sort of stuff um all of those things
that here's so here's the question i have with that, right? As a gentleman of relative means, I'll ask,
what is, how am I going to ask this question?
So is the dollar cost increase in going from level one,
if you're taking this stuff to jumping into like peptides
and hemogoroth hormone, is the dollar cost difference,
does the improvement you get, is it equal to the
dollar cost? Does that make sense? Yes, it does. I love talking about this because I work around a
lot of performance enhancing drugs. I know this situation very, very well. So let's kind of go
up from those levels, right? So you come in, you do blood work. Okay. So then we're talking about entry costs into things.
So at my office, for example, my overhead, I do everything from people's phone.
So I don't charge extra for supplements.
I get people professional grade supplements and they're third party tested and they have clinical case studies backing that exact product.
What I do, I mean, my Zymogen repogen rep when he listens to this they want to kill me
because i always put the referral code i always put the referral code in the like hey man don't
you want to make any money on this and i go well no because i don't stock supplements yeah so i
don't i don't need to make money on it because i mean i could yeah i think he told me i'm the
number five provider in the state of nevada for giving out supplements however i'm making zero dollars on it
because you also have no inventory no headache i have no inventory right because i figured out
how to do it all by phone yeah so it's like because there's resources out there you just
have to work a little bit harder to find those resources and how do you maybe a little bit of
a markup would be okay ah you know see that's the entrepreneur and you and i am an entrepreneur
anything we're doing is worth doing for money see but i but that's the entrepreneur in you and I am an entrepreneur. I'm going to say, yeah, anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
See, but that's where people pay me for my time, right? People pay me for my time.
You pay me for my time to get you in, to get the information that you need,
and then the things you need, you get them at the price that I get them at.
Right?
So whether that's blood work, specialty testing.
So it's not like you're not a charity.
No.
Okay, got it.
No, absolutely no.
Just that becomes,
the fact that you can get those supplements in the blood for free
becomes a loss leader to the time value.
Correct.
And you know, and that's on me at the end of the day.
However, I've only been out of practice for,
I've been in practice for about four years now out of school.
And I mean, I'm doing everything that I thought I would have done
at the end of my career.
Yeah.
And we're exploding and I'm very thankful and I'm blessed and I'm not meaning that I thought I would have done at the end of my career. Yeah. And we're exploding.
And I'm very thankful and I'm blessed.
And I'm not meaning that like we're the biggest clinic in the world, but we have a really
happy clientele and we have very, very good retention.
Right.
And that's what I care about because people value the experience that they get.
So when we get into these levels, right, we order someone's blood work, right?
They come in for the initial consult.
I figure out what test would be the best test for us to start off at.
Once we get the results of that test, patient comes in, we print it off, we go over it with
them.
Okay, John, here's our results.
This is our game plan.
All right, brother.
So I didn't see anything in here to where we would need to refer you out to a specialist.
However, I did notice that your hormones were a little bit low.
So this is what I want us to do. I want us first off, easy hanging, low hanging fruit. I'm going to put you on
a dietary recommendation based off of your labs and based off of your lifestyle. Everyone's got
to eat. Right. And I'm not the person, I mean, you've worked with me. I'm not the person to be
like, you need to go to Whole Foods. You need to buy the most expensive everything.
Yeah. It was the low FOMAP thing yes low FODMAP yep and I'm not here again like I've been a patient I've seen like my
dad he couldn't afford to do functional medicine so you have to make things applicable for people
because they're already coming to you stressed and not feeling well so you need to come up with
a system for that patient where they can succeed you need to put i want the adherence almost at
100 not they're showing up at 100 and then leaving like well fuck i can't afford that and what do i
do now yeah right so you need to have adherence at 100 so start off with diet and nutrition
here's the deal this is where you need to go i'm going to refer you out to this person
whether it's helix magnus or, or whoever, right? They're going
to be able to manage your hormones for you. I don't manage hormones and I don't inject for people.
However, I'll make the referral for you to go speak with a company that can do that for you.
And you set up an initial patient fee, right? Done. I just helped that business within my
business, right? And then everyone's one of the community grows right and then when i refer
patients any one of the companies i work with they know this i want my patients to have a five-star
service and i want my patients to get the professional rate that i would get as if i were
to be a patient so my patients are taken care of right because you are resemblance of me when i
send you to someone else's office so i want to make sure it's applicable for both parties.
Sure.
Okay.
You're coming from Dr.
Beetle.
We're excited to have you.
We know that this is going to be a good client and vice versa, right?
And this is going to be a good business that we work with.
So once we get you to that referral base, if necessary, and we start you off with your
diet, man, that's like 75% of the situation that we might have to work with for a large
percentage of the time. And it's so the hardest part though. It is. But that's why we% of the situation that we might have to work with for a large percentage
of the time. And it's so the hardest part though. It is, but that's why we make it easy, man. How
easy was it? Dude, you want to make it easy, make cookies like good for you. Then I don't
be making it easy. I have a client and he was telling me about, oh my gosh, I got to figure
out the name of, actually it's good. I don't remember the name of them because I got a little
bit of sweet tooth. They're from Sprouts. Bro. I said, show me a a picture of those because i was looking at his weight and i go what the hell are you doing
and i go what there's something you're not doing right well he shows me these little cookies they're
like this big they're delicious they're clean 20 of them he's eating six of them and i go that is
800 calories yeah too see they're amazing i tell you i tell you like look i love my kids but i i love them but they eat like
shit and they do okay here's the problem dude when i when i was my son's age i mean when i was my
son's age i lived you know i lived on it with my mom tells us all the time my mom would go to
sam's club when i was a kid and she'd buy like the 12 pack of microwave cheeseburgers the 12
pack of pizzas the 12 pack of burritos the 12 packpack of microwave cheeseburgers, the 12-pack of pizzas, the 12-pack of burritos, the 12-pack of chicken sandwiches, and just fill the whole freezer up with microwavable shit.
Yep.
And I literally would just eat.
And it was so funny how I'd do it.
Because I'd eat all of one.
And I'd eat all of the next.
All of the next and go through it.
Kind of like the popsicles where the orange ones were left.
You know?
That's how I would eat.
That's what I ate on my diet.
Because I could eat anything I wanted because I just never – it was a hard gainer. Right. I ate on my diet. And my kid, cause I could eat anything I wanted. Cause I just never,
it was a hard gainer.
Right.
Like Hayden is now.
And my kids just eat like shit.
And there's all this stuff in the house.
And I keep like trying to beg my wife,
please stop buying all this garbage.
Please no.
Yeah.
Stop.
And then she's like,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
And then,
and then there's garbage.
Yeah.
It's hard.
Cause like,
cause she,
she loves the kids more than she cares about what I want.
That makes sense. She's like, yeah, but I love the kids. than she cares about what I want. That makes sense.
She's like, yeah, but I love the kids.
I don't look fine.
I don't care.
Absolute sense, man.
And it's also crazy because, I mean, I grew up off the like Jose Olay taquitos and stuff.
But real quick, though, as I sit here, no, I'm not blaming my wife for my terrible diet.
It'd be very easy for me to say no.
I understand that.
I get it.
But when it's just sitting there it's just too convenient it's gonna inevitably kind of make it especially after a long
day yeah after a long day yeah it is and do god help you if you have a drink or two oh then you
just get even more cooked it's worse yep and then it's all sudden like well that just seems like a
good idea well then you're like well after a couple drinks well you know what i'll pick it up tomorrow
so i guess i just eat like some shit now when you get home you're like did i just seems like a good idea well then you're like well after a couple drinks well you know what i'll pick it up tomorrow so i guess i'll just eat like some shit now when you get home
you're like did i just really eat it what was a plush burger at aria after this game that just
happened did i just eat this shit i did yeah i did yeah oh man yeah so like with the levels of
like growth hormone and yeah let's move it up so now yeah so now we we get past the supplements
or we get past the diet the entry then we get into things like steroid-based hormones, peptides, things like that.
So peptides.
Peptides are the huge new thing.
Seems like everybody's talking about peptides right now.
I've been doing peptides.
My best friend and I were talking about it.
It's so funny because we've been doing peptides since we were in high school.
Probably not this.
Obviously, we weren't doing them properly in high school.
Sure.
But we've been doing them for about 10 years, right?
Now they're very, very mainstream, right?
So because people have found high value dollar in them
because you can market it or sell it however you want.
I'm a firm believer in this.
If you need something badly,
you should use something stronger to help you out.
I.e., if you need to elevate your testosterone,
you should probably be on testosterone.
Don't worry about doing a peptide based one because just go get the
testosterone.
I just put the fucking testosterone in your body.
I'm sorry.
Like just don't be a bitch.
Just,
just do the testosterone.
You need your testosterone up.
Don't do these.
I,
these guys selling peptides.
I think it's awesome.
I love peptides.
I'm on one right now that makes me tan without being in the sun.
Milano tan too.
I love it.
I need that.
Why am I not on that?
I didn't put Pacey on my questionnaire,
but I mean,
let's face it.
I mean,
yeah,
I got you.
I'll bring you a bottle.
Dude,
that's amazing.
It's incredible.
I mean,
it makes you feel extremely nauseous for 10 minutes.
You're going to piss people.
That's a problem.
I don't know.
You look like a golden Graham crack cracker crisp for no reason. Right? So that's a problem. I don't need that. But you look like a golden graham cracker crisp for no reason, right?
That's a problem.
I don't know if I need that problem.
So it's all about the resources, though.
Is everything give or take like that?
Is everything give or take?
I mean, though, I think my favorite one is Tessamoreland.
I mean, that one's great.
What does that do?
Basically sheds abdominal fat and can increase your testosterone.
Why am I not on that?
We could talk about that.
We got, again, diet process first but okay keep going yes so anyway i know he's gonna fire me after no i'm
not no i'm not i'm not look look it's america we all want the shortcut i know everyone wants it
you're telling me okay every single actress in hollywood right now is bone skinny and it ain't
because they found spin class.
No,
it's definitely not.
It's definitely not.
And they all have that hollow,
weird Ozempic face now.
Man,
it just hollows them out.
So stuff like,
like semi-glutide and like Ozempic.
Yeah.
I don't want to be on some shit.
I got to be on forever.
I not like a huge proponent of those.
Right.
Because number one,
I just don't understand how it would be healthier for someone
to decrease their appetite yeah and then yes they lose weight just eating muscle maybe well ozempic
and like semaglutide are really good for like very obese people yeah or people that have actual
insulin resistance or people that actually have type two diabetes not not someone
that has is or like higher middle class or upper class didn't get to get cast in the role she
wanted last month exactly all of a sudden the paparazzi are popping off as much exactly because
it's like again it's just they they know that they could sell it and it's a good ticket to sell
so you're on it forever exactly it will also like like i gotta tell you
one of the main reasons that i got over my shot fear right i give myself shots was the place i
won't name who it was they're nice people i like them great people but the place in town where i
was getting my testosterone shots started doing that and i it went from you know on a busy time
i'd go in there kind of look like maybe th Thursday night at Free Beer Night at the Elks Lodge.
Yeah.
Be like eight dudes in there waiting to get their shots, and that was fine.
And now you go in there, and it's like 40 suburban,
overweight housewives deep.
And I'm like, bro, I'm just trying to get my –
I just want my test.
This is men on the front of this place. And, and here we are.
And I'm waiting for this.
Like,
I don't have time to wait for all these people.
Right.
Like what was an easy in and out in a couple of minutes became sit here for
25,
30 minutes waiting on your turn because all these people are getting those
epic shots.
And seeing that's the thing too.
That's like with my model.
And I'm not saying my mom,
God bless them.
They're killing it financially.
And I love all those.
And I love all forms of medicine that people want that will help. Yeah. I fully support that.
You know, my business model is more about enhancing the patient's experience and decreasing
the amount of time that they need to get the things that can get them in the process and the
direction that they need to go. Yeah. Does sense no it does not the dropping the weight right away but hey man you know what i don't want to drive to go get my
testosterone shot i don't quite feel the way that i feel that i want to feel and it's not that you
need to do ample amounts of testosterone however if i said hey this is back to this supplement
thing the level one thing hey i want you to take a hundred milligrams of test and I've been on it
for 10 years. Would you be like, if you gave some of the same advice for 10 years, would you be like,
damn, this is literally the same thing. Why the hell am I saying the same thing over and over
again for 10 years? It doesn't make sense. Right. And it's all about the reevaluation because then
it's just, okay, you're just collecting. right? And my thing is I want you feeling better.
I want you out of my office because humans are the best billboard.
And I want you to go tell your friends, hey, you need to go see that Dr.
B right now.
It took me six months.
Go see him.
He put me on a good process.
Just listen to him.
He'll fix you.
Well, I can definitely tell you like with the shots, the one thing that I like the most
about what I'm doing now versus what I used to do is rather than doing a full dose once a week it's doing it splitting up in half twice a week so i seem to be much more even
keel with that yep absolutely so like i like that a lot yeah and so this is also the thing with
peptides growth hormones testosterone based like steroid based supplements right so
when you i just saw a study the other day that our body can only take 146 milligrams test.
And then after past that.
You're just burning off.
You're just burning off, right?
Now, unless you're trying to perform it maybe like in some form of competition.
Yeah, you'd probably need to increase more because you are increasing your exercise volume and your workload.
Maybe the Nathan's hot dog eating contest would be a competition I could compete at this point.
Actually, we gave them a gremlin peptide't be at this point. Actually, yeah,
we can,
we gave them a Gremlin peptide where they feel hungrier.
Yeah,
we could do that.
Yeah.
God,
that'd be pretty funny.
I hope they're not doing that.
We just ruined it.
Yeah.
Well,
I can definitely say the dude,
I mean,
we've been doing this now for like six weeks,
however long it's been since I started doing all this stuff.
And I can definitely say that,
you know,
the,
my weight is not necessarily down.
The fat percentage has definitely changed.
I'm still, I weight is not necessarily down. Uh, the fat percentage has definitely changed. Um,
I'm still,
I'm still probably walking around.
I'm not a pretty big dude for those of you who've never seen me.
People that see me in person for the first time,
like,
man,
you're a big dude.
I'm like sick,
but I'm walking around like six,
four to 29 right now,
which I'd like to be walking around six,
four,
just for the sake of the knees that have been taking a beating over my
entire life.
I'd like to be walking around like six, to ten maybe would be a great weight for you
would be good and i've noticed that that since i've been working hard like my suits are not
fitting shoulder wise chest wise i'm like maybe lifting too heavy maybe need to slow that down a
little bit i think like i think every man's gold standard
anymore for what they want to look like what is the gold standard when people tell you gosh what's
the gold standard because i've heard it a million times from different guys you tell me yours and
i'll get brad pitt and fight club yeah that's the gold standard i have a patient that actually
you heard that brad pitt yeah and bradley brad pitt fight club that's that is the don't talk
about fight club but yeah that's that's the state but that's the state that is probably at 53 or two years well 52 years old probably the unattainable standard
but i'm gonna try i'm gonna die try it well we can make that you know and that's the thing too
i always tell my patients at first that the thing the numbers that move are the inches yeah right
the inches around the waist the neck the chest the belly but yeah i have you measure every single
time right like i have one patient that you know and i this is one person i kind of broke my rule with and like this is one
thing that i'm going to start doing with you now that i'm out of lacrosse season right and i have
time to actually breathe a little bit and finish the institute of functional medicine but he came
into my office and his goal he wanted to do a iron man triathlon he is an absolute beast he's 50 plus and he was almost
300 pounds and he came into me and i measured him he was at 268 when he first started okay
and i said you have seven weeks to do how tall is he uh he's right around your he's probably like
six two six three all right got it he's a he's a large dude he used to be in a US Olympic skier. And I started off with him and I was like, man, like, I just told him, I was like, okay,
do you mentally, are you ready to do something like this?
And he's like, I'm ready.
And I need to do this because it's going to save my life.
And you know what he did?
He lost 37 pounds with me.
We hardly used, and we used testosterone i did a blood test stool test
put him on a diet prescriptive diet and then i put him on supplement recommend uh professional
grade supplements and we worked out only three days a week okay and then he got an iron man
triathlon trainer this guy finished the race lost like 37 pounds and he's ready to do
more he's training for his next one dude buddy my brady mcdonald shout out to you brady you're
listening to this uh just did an ultra ironman you're these lunatics so are those the one where
they swim bike run dude what are what's an ultra okay let's i i don't i don't want to tell you the wrong thing
because i'm like no no no dude this is insane so an ultra iron man he just did this
so ultra no it's ultra triathlon ultra iron man yeah three day race ready 320 miles is what this
is oh my god yeah hang on a minute i'm gonna see exactly what this is. Oh my God. Yeah. Hang on a minute. I want to see exactly what it is.
Ultra world championships.
Your gold to the ultra triathlon.
It's,
it's so stupid.
I mean,
this is insanity.
What these guys do.
Oh,
it's wild.
It's like,
I just don't want to say the wrong thing.
It's a ultra triathlon races.
So I think the race is the road race is like 224 miles.
The race, the run is 52 miles and the swim is 4.8 miles like how do you you just wake up one day and you're like i'm just gonna crush my body but i'm
gonna have fun doing it you know you know because i have a couple different friends that do like
these ultra marathons 100 milers yeah and and they all say the same thing about it which is they're like
you know it's not a matter of if it hurts or when it hurts it just gets to a point where can i endure
the pain right and are you going to finish like it just it doesn't hurt at a certain point you
don't hurt any worse yeah you just you just embrace the suck like i tell the kids i used to
coach embrace the suck this is going to suck it's supposed to suck but we're going to win and we're going to feel good after we yeah you
know and for the record best middle school lacrosse team in the history of middle school lacrosse
if it hadn't got broken up by a bunch of politicking nonsense yes would be the would
easily be hanging banners at every school every single school and every school right now proud
all those kids seriously yeah i was i'm thankful i you know i'm so grateful that i got to i got to be a part of that
watching my son play with that man that was that was such a great experience it was like a movie
it was great it felt like a a new like an orange county housewife show yeah i'll just i'll just
never forget the tournament in uh where we were california where we're going california and
just beating the tar out of those
all out of those high out of those all-star teams yep absolutely and the dad and the dad's like
standing there like watching like what you're these kids i'm like yeah that kid right there
is in seventh grade it's like what i'm like yeah they're like is this an all-star team
just 25 kids just erecting jason and i didn't accept any new kids all these kids in las vegas
valley wanted to be with us and i'll never forget the first day i started coaching there i went connor
morgan let me take over and i said those of you that stay we're gonna go very far yeah and you
guys it's gonna suck but it's gonna be worth it at the end and you all are gonna be young men by
the end of this so do this they did it and man it's great just they're all dogs too well now you're coaching
me to be a young man which i appreciate yeah i need all the help i can get at this point so guys
that's kind of my advice you know if they want to find you and if you look if you're not in vegas
obviously but you can kind of do this by phone though yeah actually so we have a clip we work
in minneapolis right now so we're working with one of them.
If you guys ever need an online trainer too,
I've got a plethora of them.
Athletes, anything, you guys name it.
I have tons of that stuff.
Any resources you need, please reach out to our office.
I do a lot of complimentary services.
How do they find you?
Just find, my Instagram would be the best thing.
Or go to genesisintegratedmedicine.com.
Genesisintegratedmedicine.com. Sir. it's a triple scrabble it's so long trust me i've already been roasted about
it but what's the instagram what's the instagram instagram is going to be dr dr john beetle j-o-n
j-o-h-n-o-j-h with an h yep dr dr j-o-h-n-b-e-e-d-l-e beetle with a d not like a bug yes correct correct yes all right dude
well man i appreciate you coming in and again and again i hope if you listen to this man it
inspires you to go get a blood test find somebody locally to work with you don't have to go for the
flashiest greatest thing to get incredible results especially when it comes to your health absolutely
i 100 agree yeah so look you can't just especially when it comes to your health. Absolutely. I 100% agree.
Yeah. So look, you can't just, especially when it comes to your health, we talk about success
here a lot. I mean, it says right here on the board behind me, life, money, success.
This circled the big life one. There's a lot of things that you can monkey around with,
but I promise you, you know, really sick people only want one thing and that's to be healthy.
So don't take your health for granted. Don't drift along with the currents of life in that regard, especially you got to do
something, man. You got to take care of yourselves. All right, cool. Well, I'll see you guys next week
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