Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Unpacking the Amazing Clever Summit '22 EP 46

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

The Power Move Podcast with John Gafford Episode 46 Part 2Learn and burn Entrepreneurship from serial entrepreneur John Gafford and his band of mayhem makers. From stripper poles to the oval office, b...usiness lessons are everywhere. This Week: The guys unpack Cody Sperber's the Clever Summit a MASSIVE Entrepreneur event in Las Vegas. John recaps lessons learned as a speaker and sponsor of the event. With Chris Connell and Colt AmidanLinks: Listen On Spotify : https://open.spotify.com/show/7cWN80gtZ4m4wl3DqQoJmK?si=70ad5ca4f51e4accListen On Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-power-move-with-john-gafford/id1582927283Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejohngafford/Connect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gafford2

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from the art of the deal to keeping it real live from the simply vegas studios it's the power move with john gafford back again back again back again for another exciting episode of the power move i'm your host john gafford to the left of me colt dr fax amadan well we don't believe anything chris says anymore so now we brought a computer I'm your host, John Gafford. To the left of me, Colt, Dr. Facts. Am I done? Fact-checking. We don't believe anything Chris says anymore, so now we brought a computer to fact-check. We brought a computer into the podcast. He's smart.
Starting point is 00:00:32 He's smart, man. We're going to start fact-checking and looking up definitions for all these words. I don't even know how to spell this, though. I already told you I was a mountebank. And that's how it's going to be. And with us always is the counselor, Chris Connell. How are you, counselor? Living the dream.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Getting my head kicked in today, but talk about that. Getting your head kicked. You know what? That sounds like an itch. We can just go with that as a topic as it was. But man, there's a lot to talk about today. A lot of things we're going to talk about on the podcast. Talk about things we learned this weekend from the Clever Summit, where I was lucky
Starting point is 00:01:04 enough to be a speaker and be there, which was great. We're going to talk about some little things that have happened in the media last couple of days, Mike. I don't know, maybe Elon buying Twitter, maybe Melvin Capital getting absolutely smoked betting against the meme stocks. And we're going to talk about maybe how to figure out who you want to be and what you want to do. And I know that seems like a little bit of a deep topic, but I think we're going to, you know, we got a cold here. So anytime you can go deep when you got cold,
Starting point is 00:01:28 we go on existential. You're talking about just professional, just professional. I don't think we're going like you want to save the universe. I think that might be a little too deep for us as we go along, but that's it. Before we get started, I don't want to speak on that.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I know. Hold on. Yeah. Well, if you want, we'll go wherever you want to do it. You know, you know how that is.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We'll go wherever you want. The answer is 42. We just have to walk back. I you want to do it. You know how that is. We'll go wherever you want to go. The answer is 42. We just have to walk it back now. I just got to walk it back to that. So this weekend, man, I was lucky enough to speak, like I said, at an event called Clever Summit. It's a Cody Sperber's event, Cole Hatter's event at MGM. There was about 2,500 people, I guess, in person, another couple thousand online. The lineup was just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:02:14 It was Robert Kiyosaki, those guys. It was Chris Krohn. It was Pace Morby. It was Jamil Damji. It was Amy Morey. It was me. It was Nick Marietta. The list goes on and on and on and on and on. Big people. It was Dan Fleischman. It was, I mean, I can't even think of it. Ed Milet. It was Robert Kiyosaki, if I didn't say that. It was Billie Jean's marketing. There were so many good speakers at this thing that was amazing. And I was so happy that a lot of our agents here made the investment in themselves to go down there and be exposed to that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And it was really interesting talking to them, hearing some of the life-changing kind of advice that came out of that. It really was. You know, when I go to those events, you know, a lot of people just kind of do their part and then they bail out, right? They just kind of, they do their spiel and then they're gone. I spent a lot of time milling around because, you know, I'm going to take the advantage and I'm going to take the opportunity to learn something. That's what I wanted to do. So as we went through there, just a couple of real quick notes that I took from the weekend, that I thought little things that I thought were interesting that I heard and we can talk about. So the first thing I want to talk about was at one point, Dan Fleischman was up there. They
Starting point is 00:03:23 were talking about NFTs and metaverse and all of those things. And he was doing a panel. And Dan was telling a story where he said, my 21-year-old nephew came to me a couple years ago and said, hey, do you want to invest $12,000 in this piece of land in the metaverse? It was a green dot on a black screen. And Dan's like, I didn't understand it. I didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And Dan is a very successful investor, very successful, utilizing his 40-40-20 technique, which is 40% conservative, 40% mid-level, and then 20% complete flyers. Just take a flyer. But he said, I didn't really understand this, and I didn't have a good feeling about it, so I passed. He goes, my nephew, about a month ago, just sold the most expensive piece of land ever sold in the Metaverse. Same $12,000 investment. Just sold it for, watch Colt's head pop off, $2.3 million.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Same green dot, same black screen. Now, hang on a second. Hang on a second. You know what? I've got four green dots in my office. 200,000. Hang on a second. Here was the lesson from that.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Dan goes, I don't feel bad about it. I don't feel bad at all because at the time that it came up, I did not feel good about it. Right. So I can't, if I, if I didn't feel good about it at the time,
Starting point is 00:04:42 I cannot look back with regret on something that I genuinely did not feel good about at the time. And I thought, man, what a great way to look back at something. Because how often do we've all had opportunities that have come up in our life that we could have done something and then we didn't. And then you have this massive twinge of regret of what you did. And he was so honest with himself like, I didn't feel good about that time. I'm fine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I mean, you have to have that attitude just in life in general. What if you didn't turn left that day and you went right and got hit by a bus? I mean, all these things I should have could have. See, that's a negative thing. No, but I'm saying you can always, but you can turn into a positive. I'm still still alive i haven't made the poor decisions that ultimately
Starting point is 00:05:28 in an alternate universe would leave me dead yeah no that's a great point you know if you live if you live in the rearview mirror you're gonna yeah when they say um comparison and things like that are the thief of joy yeah yeah so my life now if i did this you know it's just gonna steal your joy there's been like one or two investments i'm like um you know i missed out and it kind of eats at you but there's been a million investments that don't eat at me at the same time right like you know doyce coin or dog coin whatever everybody calls it something different right but it's doge i know but they started off people were calling it dog right at the first thing when it was nothing and i literally tried to put like ten thousand
Starting point is 00:06:10 dollars into it at this was like three years ago and that one eats me up because i just was so dumb i couldn't figure out how to buy it but you know i couldn't this was i mean this was a long time ago this was three no it's yeah about three years ago when it just starts. It's crazy. But, you know, investments, yeah, you're going to have bad investments all the time. And you're going to have a bunch of good ones. And if you didn't have the money then, you know, maybe you'll have it now. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Speaking of people that may have regret currently going for an investment, I don't know if you guys saw this, the open letter from the head of Melvin Capital to their investors that came out today. In case you're not aware who Melvin Capital is, Melvin Capital was one of the big hedge funds that decided to bet against what is now being referred to as the meme stocks, which was like GameStock and AMC when it was nothing but the diamond hands and the apes holding for the end of life and all that. And these guys were the ones that were shorting those stocks and betting against them.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And I guess the bill came due, Chris. Well, you know what's funny? The irony is that AMC is actually a really fundamentally good company in a lot of ways because of its other online content. People thought, oh, no, he's going to movie theaters anymore. Let's short him. I'm going, if you look at their PDE bank,d think they make money yeah and i think they're now taking and trying to run right i haven't looked at them but they're trying to take that that capital and run and honestly i think it was a good bet right i think the unknown of these young kids don't give
Starting point is 00:07:38 a fuck about their money was not something people and the robin hood traders right they didn't they didn't comprehend like they weren't out to make a ton of money now a lot of people jumped in but i see that main group was there just to screw the system yeah so i'm an old head though you know to me this is the death of investing yeah oh we're just all this stuff is is the just absolute dawning of pure speculation in the markets investing to me i'm like old school warren buffett find a company that generates positive cash flow generates a lot of money really good underlying principles actual fundamentals actual fundamentals you know that apparently that makes me a dinosaur yeah invest in companies that actually make sense i i missed the boat apparently well i mean well we'll, we'll look at all the giant,
Starting point is 00:08:25 I mean, even all the giant real estate companies. You know, you've got, they don't want to turn a profit. You know, people are like, you know, talking about OfferPad and Open Door and those big publicly traded companies that are Open Door and specifically, you know, they don't want to turn a profit
Starting point is 00:08:39 because as soon as they turn a profit, now there's an ebb and a valuation on that company. You know, currently their valuation is-high based purely on speculation. Growth. It's just speculative growth. The days of having a Wall Street-traded company that turns a profit, you don't want a profit. Because when you do that, then you're going to have a problem. It's such a strange time.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Strange days. Those funds also get manipulated by the market as it goes down. The high-frequency trading and arbitrages. as it goes down as it goes down right like you know i'm looking at prologists they're down two percent today which in theory prologists should never be down see this is this is why you have a computer now colt back checking i'm liking this a lot you sound twice as smart as I am. He does. Let me go to TMZ then. At some point, I'm going to look over and he's going to be watching a Disney movie. I'm confident of that.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But until that day comes, we'll be fine. I could recite Encanto. We should just do a whole thing of me singing Encanto. You know what cracks me up? Obviously, we do the podcast because we love it and we want to educate and we want to entertain people. But a byproduct of that is all of my social media, which for the last five days has literally just been Colt laying on my couch.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Everything that comes up on my social media is Colt laying on my couch. I went to meet John at MGM and just walking through the casino and I pull up Instagram and it's just me laying my couch on my Jesus. My wife goes, is Colton a therapy session? Every day.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Every day he's in a therapy session. Can we talk about how great TI was? We'll get to TI in a minute. The letter from the guy at Melvin Capital essentially just said in a long, wordy way. My bad. Mea culpa. No, it was my bad. Illegal, we call that mea culpa.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, my bad. That's really all he said. Got this one wrong. Should have listened. My bad. Half your money's gone. Sorry. And what are you going to do about it?
Starting point is 00:10:41 And yeah, there's nothing they could do. Because in order to be in a fund, you have to be a credited investor. And some people think, oh, I can just go do that. No, no, no. You have to declare. You have to go through these steps to show that you have the money to even go into a hedge fund. Oh, yeah. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And people don't realize they do that. So you don't take advantage of, right? Right. And it's hard. Most people, you screw up big time. You have the money to lose. You screw up big time if you go to jail and you're using credit investors right like you're totally defrauding at that time well no but that's only if you're
Starting point is 00:11:11 doing something so if i go out and i take a shot on a derivative let's say i buy some put and i fucked up and it was a bad call and i didn't understand the fundamentals but you invested your money and you're an accredited investor that means you were smart enough to know that you were putting money in the market, that you have the money to lose. That's effectively what gives you protections on the hedge fund side. That's why they only take it from accredited investors.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That's why large investments are required by the SEC to be accredited through accredited investors. So that, you know, you're not taking, you know, widows and orphans, right?
Starting point is 00:11:42 You're not taking this, these people that should be on fixed income, right? Right. Or that don't that should be on fixed income, right? Or that don't have the money to lose their last 50 grand putting it on black. Which happens more often than it probably should. So, yeah, be careful. But back to this weekend. So, lesson number two takeaway from all the information that we got was this.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I was lucky enough to spend a few minutes alone with Robert Kiyosaki, not in his room or doing anything weird. Just, just you know just being able to have a lot of oh yeah just just just one-on-one with the man right and uh it was just fascinating to sit there and listen to him and and just like any other great communicator all he wanted to know about was me like how was he super cool super cool and just and i gotta tell you just down to earth and stylish no games dude no no games at one point you know the two things i can remember off the top of my head that he said you know to our group and it was smaller than the whole room was uh number one he said uh and i thought this was an interesting
Starting point is 00:12:40 take he said uh you know i don't remember how it came into context, but he said it was a school teacher. Somebody asked, asked his kid or somebody asked kid, they said, were the three wise men in the Christmas story, were they rich? And the kid said, yeah, they were rich. And the teacher said, well, how do you know that? And he said, well, because they gave him gifts of, you know, frankincense, myrrh and gold. So for them to have that kind of stuff, they would to be rich and the teacher said no that's wrong the reason you know that they're rich is because they sought out the best teacher and when i heard that it was like oh okay and the one thing i can tell you and i'm gonna give i'm gonna give my dudes uh pace more being jameel jamji just such a shout out for this and it's up to mill yeah right there you go but but here such a shout out for this. And it's up to me.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yeah, right. There you go. But here's the shout out, man. The shout out is this is they the majority of that room is theirs, man. They brought so many people to that event. And when you look at the I mean, everybody there was there because they wanted to share knowledge and make people better and share education, do those things. But when you look at the passion that
Starting point is 00:13:45 those guys invest in others with and the level of love that they put into their tribes or their networks or their groups, it's really amazing. And I think everybody else that's there as an educator or as a mentor or somebody in a position where somebody was going to look up to what you do, I think it put all of us on notice a little bit. Man, I got to step it up. These guys are, I mean, this isn't, and I'm not saying when I go try to help people, it's an act. I'm not trying to say that at all. But what I'm saying is these dudes breathe it like oxygen. Right. But Jamil's one of those guys that was going to be successful whenever he did. Yeah. Cause he made him and he's infectious. Right. Just so happened to pick something that
Starting point is 00:14:27 can be profitable. But have you ever seen his comedy stuff or his skits or his acting? Any of that stuff? It's hilarious. Guy's really talented guy. Like he just has that factor, the X factor. Yeah. So when you meet people like that, it's when you meet celebrities in real life. Yeah. And it's not because they're celebrities because because there's that whole after, therefore, because of. We call it ad veracundium. Google that. Google that. Come on, Colt.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Ad verium Google. No, no, no. Sorry. Post hoc. Spell that for me. I self-corrected. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. See just the threat.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Post hoc ergo propter hoc. The threat of the fact check no i has got him corrected himself after this therefore because of this after that and after this therefore because of this you're saying oh he's a celebrity because he's got this thing just done post hoc ergo proctor hawk fallacy it's when you so you look at those people you say oh well i feel that they're a celebrity therefore they're charming it's like no no they're charming because and that's why they're a celebrity yeah to make it through in that world he's using that correctly just so everybody's know yeah he did he did correctly i'm gonna get you i'm gonna get your bell i'm just
Starting point is 00:15:37 gonna get your bell so we can ring it like bing that's correct right there you go and that's it and just to clarify an ad vericundium is an irrelevant appeal to authority that has no business being authority anyway because this concludes our latin listening today but you meet those people and like i said every time i've ever met somebody who's truly famous and not the ones that do it through academics those people sometimes don't have the factor they're obviously brilliant in fact the it factor they don't necessarily have the it factor but if you meet a famous celebrities i met quentin tarantino one time i met a few celebrities but quentin tarantino had one of those things you go there is no way anybody understands how present
Starting point is 00:16:14 you are as a human being until they meet you yeah because i was already a fan oh he's cool but he was so engaging and he looked in the eyes and just all these x factors right i thought he would just be kind of an i probably had a lower expectation of him than i should have yeah and it just had that x factor isn't it always great when you have a low expectation of meeting somebody and then they exceed it isn't that great always have low expectations of people yeah magic magic was awesome he was one that exceeded magic johnson are you are you watching the show time are you watching watch the first episode and and then the kid turned on the car. I got to watch that.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Dude, it's super good. It's super good. Dude, John C. Reilly. Just about the bus man, right? Yeah. Yeah. John C. Reilly is so funny. He's great.
Starting point is 00:16:55 He's Dr. Bus, dude. Just look at him like, you know, dude. He plays the dad? He plays Jerry Buss. He plays Jerry Buss, yeah. And he's amazing. He's so great. Great job.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You just totally buy him as like the full on playboy. Just hanging out at the playboy. Man, just signing big celebs. Oh, dude, you just totally buy it. I'm going to watch it. It's on my list. It's so funny to watch. But back to Kiyosaki.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So the second thing that I'll say that he said that I thought was really, really funny was not funny. But we're sitting there talking. It was a small group. And he made a comment at one point. And if you hear this, please don't think I'm being elitist but it's the truth and um he goes this came out of his mouth he goes uh he goes at one point he goes it was like you know people that because he was talking about people that own businesses create you know they create they create jobs for others they create for other people and he was saying how how awesome the
Starting point is 00:17:43 event was because all of us there were there to help people create that's what he was talking about he goes you know because it's going to create businesses which create employees and then cody sperber goes i don't call them employees they hate being called employees they hate that don't call them employees team members and kiyosaki without missing a beat goes no fuck them they're employees you are an employee he goes he goes fuck him he goes he goes like no, fuck them. They're employees. You are an employee. He goes, fuck them. He goes, look, there's two kinds of people on the planet. He goes, there are people that crave security and people that crave freedom. And if you crave security, you're going to be an employee.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And there's nothing wrong with that. It's not pejorative. No, no, because it's fulfilling your personal need, what you need at the time. Sure. No, no, because it's fulfilling your personal need, what you need at the time. He goes, but if you are someone that is craving freedom, you're going to probably be an entrepreneur and create that freedom in your life. He goes, so people that, you know, people and employees know their employees. They're employees for a reason because they want security. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I love employees. Good employees are, you know, oh, you're a team member. It's like, oh, yeah? Then how come I'm not getting the ball? How come I'm on the bench all the time? You know, it's like you have to understand that the word employee is not pejorative. No. Literally, it's just a descriptor. I think the last 10 years, everybody's tried to make employee be such a negative thing, right?
Starting point is 00:19:00 Well, just treat your employees better. Yeah, yeah. But I think everybody thinks oh you shouldn't work for the man you shouldn't do that you know what there's a lot of people that need to work and that are great employees i mean i i deal with it all the time you meet people and you're just like man my parents were born employees and they worked as employees and they were probably two of the best employees i i assume anybody could ever have. And in that, when I was an employee, I wanted to be a good employee. Do you think they learned that from their parents?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Like, was your grandmother a good employee? My grandma was not a good employee. She was not. Evil grandma. Evil grandma. Evil G. Well, they actually were entrepreneurs. So it turns out they were kind of entrepreneurs, oddly enough.
Starting point is 00:19:42 They had a nightclub. They had a convenience store. They had a convenience store, all this stuff. Really? My grandpa was deputy chief of police. Oh, wow. As a detective and stuff. They bought a nightclub for teenagers. Yeah, no, it's a scam. They bought a nightclub called
Starting point is 00:19:57 the Go-Go 7, and they had live bands playing, but it was for teenagers. So they had a convenience store. They also had that business that I wasn't aware of. So Regina convenience was parental. Well, I mean convenience. 18 years old in Regina. That's it. Apparently they had
Starting point is 00:20:11 a teenage club. It's just giggling like a child. Which is so funny. Anyway. Sorry. Quote the father. which is so funny anyway sorry Colt's a father he's got kids
Starting point is 00:20:30 alright back to your life Colt just because your daughter's married off doesn't mean that's how it goes people are like what yeah okay what were we talking about i don't know we got sidetracked employee isn't a pejorative that's what it was that's what it was so ah man that's funny are you just looking at memes over there
Starting point is 00:21:00 i think he's reading dad jokes which by the way i i now have a new favorite dad joke would you like to hear it i would love to hear it all right here's my new favorite dad you never have to ask that ever again by the way i know i don't but here's my new favorite dad joke i would torture my children with this and mark i must have told it to him like eight times see here's my thing too with dad jokes not only do i tell them over and over the same joke to my kids yeah i then explain it to them like they don't get it which drives them insane yeah all right so just so you know mansplaining is when a man explains something oh yeah that's actually to me all right here we go so here's the question you ready how does the hippie polygamist count his wives. One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:21:47 That's nice. That's good. I love that joke. Colt, do you get it? Mrs. Hippie. Yeah, I got it. I'm going to play that to Colt. He demands to play that.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I'm just choking over here. Yeah, I love that joke. That's my new favorite. Oh, man. I got to have this morning. I got to love jokes. So back to what we were talking about. Robert, I loved listening to him talk.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He was great, wasn't he? Oh, just so great. He was great. And so straightforward about it, right? Like everybody else I think was, hey, be positive, be this, right? And he was just straightforward. He's just old school. Yeah, he was, man.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And it's investment. No nonsense. It's investment. You know, outlook is very old school too he was and it's investment it's investment you know outlook is very old school too which there's nothing wrong i mean i still agree with pretty much everything he said well i love that you know his main point was you know he says he said i love inflation because i love debt you know which is exactly funny we talked about you know robert kiyosaki and and d Dave Ramsey having altering views on that.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That was 100% the point. Because you look at it, and it's like he says, yeah, if I have debt, inflation shrinks the amount I have to pay back because that debt is paying for assets that are appreciating, which makes a lot of sense. It's kind of, honestly, why also inflation is good for the U.S. government
Starting point is 00:23:02 because we have a tremendous amount of debt. So the less those dollars cost to pay back, or the less or worse, the better off it good for the u.s government because we have a tremendous amount of debt so the less those dollars cost to pay back or less or worse the better off it is for the country you know weird sort of screw the middle class to save the entire country that's exactly what it is but not a bad horrible thing that was it and then here was another interesting takeaway that i had i won't say which of the of the speakers this was because i don't know if they want this out there but i was talking to one of the speakers and this is a person I consider a friend. And, um, I, you know what, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell another story. I'm going to tell you a personal story of, of kind of foolishness.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And here's what it was. So I walked up to a friend of mine. I forgot to tell a story. So there's a guy that I know that throws a very large event, very similar to the event we had this weekend. And there was another friend of ours that's, you know, tied enough to that person where I thought they were really connected with it. And this is maybe seven, eight months ago. So this person that's, this loosely tied to this other person tells me, Hey, I really want you to speak at the event. And I'm thinking, cool, yeah, I'd love to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:05 It's another big room with like 2,000 people. I'd love to speak at that event. Cool, I'm going to get you a slot at this event. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you remember me talking about this. I did. I'm going to get you a slot. I'm going to get you a slot.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So a couple days go by, and I hit the guy up and text, hey, man, what's going on? I need to confirm this. If I'm going to do it, I want to go all in. I need to make sure I'm super prepared for it. And he hits me back. He's like, oh, hang on, man. We're just going to move some stuff around i haven't really heard you know we're working on it so i hit him again and then i turned into like the thirsty you know the thirsty person that's chasing this opportunity and i'm like it's too
Starting point is 00:24:37 much like i get to a point where i look back at my text like i'm embarrassed by how much i chase this and i start and i come to the conclusion i'm well, I guess the dude that's doing the event doesn't have any interest in me speaking. And it wounded my pride a bit. It did. Now, this event was butted up against another event that another friend of mine had. And it was butted up, same room, back-ended one day later. So I go, or actually my second buddy's event was at night in between the day sessions right so a friend of mine was in town from california he was speaking
Starting point is 00:25:11 at said event at night so we said go down with me i said sure i'll go to that now first of all this is an event that i would have gone to just to go mill around i could have gone for free probably not around but my ego was never going to let me go down to that main event because they don't want me to speak. If I'm not going, you invite me to speak, and I don't go speak, and I don't go to speak, I'm damn sure not going as an attendee. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Right? So I go down there that night, and to the other person's event, you need a whiteboard to follow this story, sorry. I go to the other person's event, and as I'm standing there talking to the other person, the main guy that was hosting the main event walks by and he looks right at me and he says oh i see you can come down here for this but you can't fucking come to my event like fuck you is essentially what i got and he walked off
Starting point is 00:25:58 and i was kind of like well you know what fuck that guy yeah well right i mean what do you expect right so i kind of felt bad about it and that guy was a speaker also at this event that i was at so i just felt myself it had been seven months of some some weirdness and of weirdness of going on between me and this cat and i thought to myself you know what i'm going to put that in the rear view i'm going to be the bigger person i'm going to go talk to him and i just want to explain to him what happened yeah and i walk up and i told him the story, you know, this person had invited me to speak and then I chased it too much. And then for whatever reason, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:32 it didn't work out with you guys. And then I was embarrassed because I felt like I chased it too much. And then you guys didn't see me as having enough value to be on that stage. And then my pride wouldn't let me come down. And that was foolish thing i should have just sucked it up and just whatever and blah blah and my the guy looks right at me and says this is the first time i've ever heard you wanted to speak at that event that's right he goes i could have told you that was gonna what was gonna happen yeah he goes he goes bro i would have made a slot for you in two seconds of course he goes of course i of course i would have and he goes who and i told him he's like oh yeah that's that's pretty much part and it was so true because he
Starting point is 00:27:09 called over his other guy this also helps him to vent he goes listen to what just happened then the guy just shook his head and was like yeah that's par for the course and here i am so the moral story is this here's the moral story i was running around for seven months i wasn't good well that's talking decision maker number one but never assume you know what other people are thinking about or their opinion of you is because chances are you're probably wrong yeah what's that whole your opinion of me is none of my business yeah it's none of my business but anyway back so back to what i was saying before on the other thing real quick and then this will lead us into our into our next segment because we really want to talk about more dad jokes is this more we can get some more bad more
Starting point is 00:27:47 dad jokes if you want but here's here's it here it is so i'm talking to one of these guys and he had told me last time i saw him that uh he was going to do an hgtv show right is what he told me and this was before covid started and they were working on i said what happened and he said nah you know with covid the, the production got stopped and they really wanted to be vaccinated and it wasn't my thing. So I just said no and I'm out and there you go, which, you know, believable, whatever. Each to his own, who cares?
Starting point is 00:28:15 And I said, are you going to do it? He goes, now it's come back around. But he goes, they want it to be a flipping show. He goes, I'm not flipping. Everything I'm doing is buying and holding into Airbnb. I'm not flipping houses anymore. I don't want to be a flipping show. He goes, I'm not flipping. Everything I'm doing is buying and holding into Airbnb. I'm not flipping houses anymore. I don't want to be the flip guy. And they want me to be the flip guy.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Train left the station. So yeah, he's like, I would rather say no. Because he goes, if I say yes to this, I'm going to be the flip guy for the next 10 years. And I'm going to have to be being something I don't want to be for 10 years for the sake for the sake of what money i got money and i was like wow and it really kind of hit home you know for me like who do you really want to be because you know the topic that i was
Starting point is 00:28:59 even there speaking about at this convention was luxury house flipping of which i am invested with you know nick marietta who's a great dude and does a great job and that's his forte right i'm you know if anything in that department i'm there as an accelerator you know that that's my deal with what with his company that he's the genius at that i don't want to be the house flipper guy that's not that's not what i do right and um yeah, it was a really interesting kind of weird deal that happened there. So I think one of the things you got to know, if you don't know what you want to do and which direction you want to go, like they say, if you don't know to which port you sail, no one is favorable.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So when we come back from the break, we're going to talk about, we're going to dig deep into Connell. We've done a dig deep into Colt before. So just these speaking events. I have a dad joke about a speaking event. I'd love to hear it but is that what you were looking up over there where you make sure you're right i would just make sure i got it right all right got it because i was like wasn't there a dad joke before the break give it to me yeah give it to me okay you heard about that scientist who's an absolute brilliant scientist okay who cloned
Starting point is 00:29:58 himself so he could be in academia and working and professing while his clone went around doing speaking events for him. You heard about that? No. So this clone makes this, so this scientist, brilliant, brilliant scientist, makes this clone to a T,
Starting point is 00:30:12 perfect version of himself to go do all these other things made up in the laboratory, except that this clone had an absolutely filthy mouth on him. So he'd be up there talking about quantum physics, be like,
Starting point is 00:30:24 ah, you know, and this and the fucking, you know, and on the photons they fucking smash into each other just filthy mouth on this clone right and so the scientist's going i can't have that he goes to the clone and approaches him going hey you know i appreciate you going out and doing all this stuff but you can't do that you can't do this stuff anymore you got a filthy mouth he says oh go fuck yourself what are you going to do about it you know you're not my you know you're not my dad blah blah blah so all of a sudden the scientists just rot with you know you know worries about what am i gonna do to get rid of this clone was my clone i can do with him what i want so he said okay come on clone let's go for a drive and so he drives him in a nice sunset hey let's work it out let's chat about this go fuck yourself you know this clone is
Starting point is 00:31:01 just a filthy mouth on him right so the scientist is talking all of a sudden you know smacks him in the head and wraps him up and he throws him over a cliff this clone of his he could do whatever it's his it's him he can you can't murder a clone but all of a sudden right as he's throwing his body off the cliff a cop pulls up and the cop is like oh my god what'd you do you just murdered that guy and the scientist goes no no no you don't understand i'm a scientist i'm a world-renowned scientist. That was actually my exact clone that I made in the laboratory out of just organic materials. So the cop goes back to his car and starts writing him a ticket.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He goes, well, I just explained to you. I didn't murder anybody. He's like, no, no, no, no. This isn't a ticket for making an obscene clone fall. An obscene clone fall. An obscene clone fall. We'll be right back. Stupid. Hey, it's John Gafford. If you want
Starting point is 00:31:55 to catch up more and see what we're doing, you can always go to thejohngafford.com where we'll share any links that we've things we talked about on the show as well as links to the YouTube where you can watch us live. And if you want to catch up with me on instagram you can always follow me at the john gafford i'm here give me a shout back from the break welcome back to the power move if you're catching us on youtube for part two make sure you like and subscribe click that little notification button in whatever podcast system you're listening to us on whatever it may be do me a solid give us the four or five you know what give us the max is that better to
Starting point is 00:32:31 say if i say four or five they're like yeah that's pretty good i'll go four whatever no i can't believe we can't come as a society to a standardized rating thing no i don't think australia's no i give it up to you i agree i totally agree you know what speaking is coming together as a society today we're talking about doing what you want to do or figuring out what you want to do and you know who just did what they wanted to do elon musk did oh he sure did he sure did my friend that's what we call fuck you money it is that's what we call it um yeah you know i i think there's been so much, so much said about this. And I think my favorite thing that's said about this is and i don't i think it was elon i don't know if he said it or somebody put the words in his mouth on a fake tweet whatever
Starting point is 00:33:32 it was but it said if the far left 10 and the far right 10 are equally pissed off about how things are going that's how you know you're doing the right thing i saw a tweet of of his, one of those fake tweets, you know, it's like just their name. He goes, now I'm going to buy McDonald's and fix all the ice cream machines. It's like, no one man has all that power. Nobody has that much power. No, I think, uh, no, I love the one that said, I'm now I'm going to buy Facebook and shut it, turn it off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Which you don't want. He really could do. He could. I mean, this guy, would you ever spend that kind of money to prove a point it's not it's not money i mean it's not money no he doesn't care about the money well i love the one too it says how pissed is he i'm gonna gonna be when he realized he could have downloaded twitter for free from the app store well it's just he makes a good point though right he says no i don't like twitter i don't use twitter i mean i have a twitter account i'll go on there to check on a couple
Starting point is 00:34:24 people i like but it's just not a platform i use yeah um the older i get the more i'm starting to use instagram just for funny memes and jokes because i really stopped caring a lot of times about certain things you know i'm not worried about other people's opinions as much but um twitter is kind of a town center you know it does have that you know global consciousness global sort of place to speak out. And I'm not a canceled person. I don't like the concept of prohibiting us from talking about bad ideas. And I was watching Bill Maher on Joe Rogan the other day.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You want to talk about a funny sort of thing where people are starting to call Bill Maher right wing. And you listen to what? What? Yeah, people are starting to say, oh, you're getting more right wing. He goes, I call bill maher right wing and you listen to what yeah people are starting to say oh you're getting more right wing he goes i'm not getting more right wing you're getting way too fucking left he goes because because if you would have talked to me 20 years ago about canceling police departments or you know what i mean all these things i would have disagreed with it then and i disagree with it now i've always been about your rights to be left
Starting point is 00:35:20 alone and as a true liberal like if you look up the word liberal cult in your definition everybody get a true definition call give me a true definition were you trying to find a dad joke i was looking at you were trying to find a dad joke look at there's some good but anyway a liberal is somebody that has is freedom paramount right yeah liberty is the root word of liberal okay so people use it as a pejorative and you say wait a minute we're in being pro freedoms was it a problem right canceling speech though is something that shouldn't be a liberal platform ever aclu should be one of those things where you say i defend people's rights to have bad speech right oh it's looking dead not the pejorative not the pejorative who uses that have you ever used that no no no no no i
Starting point is 00:36:18 didn't know i gotta say that's the first time i've ever heard that word yeah pejorative oh pejorative yeah for those of you listening home cult what's the definition of pejorative expressing content or disapproval contempt contempt that's what i said it's a lawyer oh yeah so pejorative to use it in a way that's not flattering but either way um canceling speech what it does is it creates those in power from being able to control speech and there's nothing more 1984 than that and candidly you know not not to make it political but the right wing was always the party trying to cancel speech we're trying to cancel lyrics and rap music yeah they were trying to prevent people from smoking pot and preventing people getting married they were
Starting point is 00:36:53 trying to put their values on other people right and when that pendulum starts shifting where you can't say that because now i have the right to be offended all of a sudden you go well i don't know who i don't like anymore. Whoever's trying to stop that from happening is who I got a problem with. Yeah. You know, speaking of trying to stop people from doing things, you know what I feel bad for this week? You know what I feel bad for?
Starting point is 00:37:18 The Nets? No. I feel bad for the executives at Disney. I mean, dude, talk about a rock and hard place, man. You got absolutely squeezed there. And there's nothing they could do. How about stay out of it? But here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:37:36 They couldn't because their employees who make the place go round were demanding that they do something. To the point where you don't know what's going to happen. Disney is very, obviously, LGBTQ friendly. Very progressive. All of their employees, very progressive.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I think their owner was a Nazi sympathizer initially. Yeah, we can leave that. I'm pretty sure Walt Disney himself was a Nazi sympathizer. I was going to ask the VIP pretty sure walt disney himself was a nazi sympathizer so i was gonna ask the vip tour guide about that she doesn't mention that fun fact but no but seriously unpack that for a second so that's a really good thing to bring up what was walt disney company facing right now i'm not talking about when desantis canceled they were facing a walkout of employees okay they're They're facing. So your employees are going to threaten me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 My company. You're going to walk out unless I do what? Unless you vocalize your disdain for this law. For a law. For a law. So as a company, I would simply say, I would open up lines of communication with my own employees first. Children that are yelling, children that work there because you're a child
Starting point is 00:38:45 if you if that's what you do if everything's a tantrum everything's a strike yeah i know in france and i know in other places striking is a huge part of that labor union um sort of mentality but that's not the mentality in america now for better or worse whatever they can do things for fractions of the cost we can because they just organize things better but if your children employees are threatening to walk out right then then if that's the case then that's the case i'm not going to say let them walk tuck tail and walk yeah because i don't i don't negotiate with terrorists who tell me how i have to behave from a corporate governance point if i'm not breaking any laws now that's not to say don't take your employees input if they're saying hey we don't want a seven-hour workday,
Starting point is 00:39:25 well, you can thank the liberals for employing a five-day workweek, right? So there's things where, over time, these things have helped out employees, and that's a slow-moving needle, and you work it, right? Let's not work in factories all day. You know, 40-hour workweek, great. That's fair. Let's work that out, right? Those are all standard things we see now as…
Starting point is 00:39:41 Which they're now trying to reduce to 32 hours. Well, and again again so all those things move right and so markets adjust over time with how that moves but the minute you allow because that wasn't disneyland la that wasn't disneyland france that wasn't disneyland japan disneyland orlando was disneyland orlando how many people were talking 2 000 people are gonna walk out of their job unless what unless i stop stop saying that boys are boys and girls are girls? Pretty much. Well, I mean, we don't take a position.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Our official position is we don't take a position on this. Yeah. And we will provide gender-neutral alternatives where applicable, and we will provide princess dresses in the stores that say size x not girls x or whatever we'll you know so question do you think the people at disney that have the power to make that call do you think they wanted to make that call i think that i think that there is this giant fear right now and you can see it in media that the left has become too loud and that and just that part of it again i i identified to the left on the spectrum because I'm a true liberal.
Starting point is 00:40:48 So he admitted it. No, no, no. I tend to be left because I don't think religions should control our politics. I don't think religions should control our politics. I think rationality should. All these things where I believe that climate change is real. There's just things where I go, yeah, I'm not here to argue it. My factual observations tend to put me on the left because it's not, I don't have an
Starting point is 00:41:10 opinion on it. I just listen to people who are smarter than me in those topics. Not to change the topic there, but you see the self-immolation, is that the word I'm looking for? Self-immolation. Self-immolation. Immolation. The guy said his self on fire last week died today.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like, I don't understand how setting himself on fire last week died today like oh i don't understand how setting yourself on fire well the vietnam so yeah i remember i remember the history anyway but he so tongan yeah yeah the vietnamese monk protesting a war that's a selfless act in his view and it did garner the attention that he saw and he's a monk he's a buddhist so his his whole i mean talk about the stones on that guy dude but anyway but anyway he's looking at this up what are you guys talking about yeah thanks look at that you know what you know what i gotta tell you i think the perm yeah the computer cold fault fact checking is now permanent at the end of the day it's not a corporation, right? But there is this fear that they're going to be canceled if they don't do this.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Well, you're never going to make everybody happy, right? But the reality of the world we live in is that within plus or minus one standard deviation, most people are pretty frigging normal. And I mean that in a very common sense way. Normal. I don't think most people are anymore maybe six foot four guys shouldn't be you know swimming most people go yeah it's probably a line that's gone too far you hear about the loudest 10 on either side those are the ones
Starting point is 00:42:37 that get out of bed with with an agenda and you hear about them well i can the silent majority you know it's pretty rational i think you're about to see the twitter pendulum smash those people on the far left i think you're about to see that come i don't think twitter has that power no no no no no i'm just saying this is the beginning of the pendulum swinging back to some some realm of common sense where where where where it's where it's okay for the world to say if if you're offended, it's your problem. I think that's okay. And we need to have, going back to facts.
Starting point is 00:43:11 People think their opinions are facts. It's not. Facts are facts. You can have your opinion and like the fact or not. I'll tell you a fact. I'll tell you a fact, which was the after party for that convention last weekend that we sponsored it still has ti so got it buddy we had ti play that after party and dude i'm telling you it was good he was he was solid did he auto tune everything no no dude he came he came out and held it down man it was great so let's talk about we were going to talk about
Starting point is 00:43:41 concerts anyway hip-hop concerts are trash unless it's like a big production kind of artist. No. I one time saw the Wu-Tang Clan. I love the Wu-Tang Clan. If you know me, you know I've loved them for 30 years. Wu-Tang Clan live was so disappointing. It was eight dudes on stage just talking into a microphone. There's no choreography. This is pretty much three dudes on just talking into a microphone. There's no choreography.
Starting point is 00:44:06 This is pretty much three dudes on stage talking into microphones. Have you listened to this? Thank you. Because apparently the boy, yeah, Chris would not be captivated by what we're doing right now. If we put on a record with this exact conversation on it, and then we're like, hey, listen to it now again in person. I mean, it's the same conversation, right?
Starting point is 00:44:24 You take value in novelty. Are we wearing the tracks suits to the draft well i thought you were gonna well i know i know i know no you did scott invited you but i think we gotta wear the track so you know why i didn't give him well he said an apple store thing i can't get on apple no no no i'm gonna i'm gonna give a big shout out right now as i I do when people do me solids. And my guy, Nick Dosa down at Vegas Auto Gallery, super shout out. So my MC20 needed a little bit of work. Actually, a local dealership here that could work on it was like, oh, it's going to be like six weeks. So he shipped it because he already had cars going to LA. What needed to be done on it, John?
Starting point is 00:45:01 It needs some relay stuff. There's just some stuff that needed tuning on it and wanted a full run through on the warranty on it and and he wanted done la and so he put on a carrier for me to la to be be sorted out which is nice of him to do and then he literally looks at me and goes hey man uh you could take whatever you want he's like he'll be down a car take take something just take something and i was like what he goes he goes you can't take the bugatti, but you take anything else. And dude, I'm telling you, if you get an idea, if you don't live in Vegas to get an idea what I'm talking about, go to www.vegasautogallery.com and you'll see what I'm talking about. He sells, I think he said, like 80% of cars over $250,000 in this town, period.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He was on this show. Yeah, he's been on this show before. Still not my friend on Facebook. Still not your friend on Facebook. Still not your friend on Facebook. No, but he goes, take whatever you want. And so I'm like, all right, I'm going to take the Rolls Royce Wraith. I'm going to take the Wraith. I'm going to take it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And it's funny, five minutes into driving it, I've never felt like a bigger asshole. I just, there's just, there's something about that car man i mean dude and look i got plenty of self-confidence in myself i got plenty of self-belief in myself but something about driving that car where every place you pulled up people look at they're like okay let's see this asshole let's get out of this car it's so funny to me how you still think that that car somehow carries with it a different no no no it does it does because here's why this is what this this is why let's take a poll no this is why i love that with a pipe this is this is why i love my mc20 right this is why i love it because people that don't know cars have no clue what it
Starting point is 00:46:38 is for all they know it's like a damn toyota mr to mr3 or whatever they don't it's like a damn Toyota MR3 or whatever. It could be a $50,000 car. They have no idea what it's worth. John, have you sold this to yourself? This is the story I'm going with. They have no idea what it is. They have no idea what it is. They have no idea what it is. I'm not saying they've missed it.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Just because most people couldn't tell you the name, make, or model, just on pure glance, doesn't mean they don't think it's a supercar. Yeah, okay. All right. So they think it's a supercar. Yeah, okay. All right. So they know it's a nice car or whatever. But they don't know how nice. But if you know cars, then you know. But like the Rolls, you see it coming a mile away, and you just know, here's an asshole
Starting point is 00:47:18 at Rolls. Just cut it out. I don't know. I don't know. Cole, what do you think? My Lexus doesn't pull the same clout, I guess. That's what it is. I don't know. I don't know. Cole, what do you think? My Lexus doesn't pull the same clout, I guess. That's what it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I think your car, I'm not a car guy, right? But I know when I see your car, you hear a tuned supercar going, boom, boom. Okay. A little different. But the goal was at some point to take the rolls out with the track suits that we wore on my birthday and just run around town and shoot a slow motion video of just running random like errands
Starting point is 00:47:50 like going to ace hardberry buying a hose just you know going to sonic and get a slurpee has anybody worn their track suit sans cabo i wouldn't disrespect it like that yeah no it's gotta be it's gotta be an event i already wore it's gotta be an event you already wore it yeah it's gotta be a great travel i'll never disrespect it like that gotta be an event so we're gonna do that but anyway so yeah but he sold the rolls so he came and picked it up and he was like hey i sold the car i need it back i'm like bro i'll bring it back right now you know whatever and he's like uh no i'll send him pick it up and he goes i'll send you something else what do you want i'm like i don't need another car he's like no no no i got your car i'll send
Starting point is 00:48:23 you another car i'm gonna send to send you the G wagon. So he sent the G63, which I've been driving today. Just give it out. So God bless, Nick. It's good to have good friends with expensive toys. With whips. That'll loan to you. So God bless.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Go buy a car from Nick, which is dope. But yeah, but talking about bad bands. Bad bands. Bad bands. See, it's funny you said this, because you mentioned something earlier that struck me, and I agreed, but you said worst course concert ever was Smashing Pumpkins. Smashing Pumpkins.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Holy smokes, is that boring. And, I mean, and, dude, Gish, that original Smashing Pumpkins, that's, like, one of my favorite records. It's a great band on album. Oh, dude, but they just stand there. Because Chris said that he didn't like Red Hot Chili Peppers. I've heard them put out some bad live performances. I would watch them again. I wouldn like Red Hot Chili Peppers. I've heard them put out some bad live performances.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I would watch them again. I wouldn't go to Chili Peppers. Well, especially like somebody wanted to go to Allegiant. No concert is good at Allegiant. Let me help out. It sounds terrible. Really difficult to get the band. No, I saw two concerts recently at the Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I saw the Killers. Yeah, I just saw Killers. It was a really great venue. Yeah, I saw the night before. And then Deftones on Friday, which are just- Are you on the floor? Yeah. The Killers. Yeah, I just saw The Killers. It was a really great venue. Yeah, I saw the night before. And then Deftones on Friday, which are just- Are you on the floor? Yeah. The floor moves.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah, because I don't know- Why does the- Is that on purpose, do you think? Do you think that- Because there's chairs there for Hasan Minhaj. There's chairs there. It's got to be on purpose. So for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, at the Cosmopolitan, which
Starting point is 00:49:42 is still my favorite hotel. It is. It's not even close. It's not even close to my favorite hotel. Number two. Their live music venue there called the Chelsea. The floor seats. When you're on the floor at the Chelsea watching a concert, how much would you say?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Four inches? I mean, the floor moves. It's got a lot of give. The floor moves up and down about probably four inches. I mean, when people start bouncing, you are bouncing by default like four like four inches and it was cool we took my son and he was there for the killers and he was like my daughter or my daughter were like whoa like my of course my wife is like is this normal is it full we're gonna fall through i'm like i'm pretty sure this is on purpose like i just don't know how like you couldn't be that bad at engineering i feel like
Starting point is 00:50:22 i could do a backflip on it no no, no, but like if it was a mistake, they could never let that many people in there. No, there has to be some amount of just tension or like flexion or whatever they have. It has to be done on purpose. But I don't know what's underneath it, or maybe they remove it, John. Here was my theory.
Starting point is 00:50:38 That's actually just a subfloor. It's like a false floor. Yeah. And they remove it before they put all the seats in there because the next day after Deftones, I saw Hasan Minhaj. Attached to the floor? The whole area were all chairs.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Attached to the floor? I don't think they were attached. They were probably just put out. But maybe that floor goes down or something. I don't know if it is or not. It's a happy mistake, though, because I'll tell you right now. You design a music venue,
Starting point is 00:51:00 make the floor move about four inches because, dude, people start jumping around. Throw in a ball pit. Throw in a ball pit. Yeah, why not? Bubble machine, ball pit, the whole yeah why not bubble machine ball pit let's go yeah let's go let's just make it happen basically like the ronald mcdonald land you've always wanted but never could have there it is right there don't you wish you got off on the same things that got you like as a kid you did like don't you wish remember how excited you were or just fuck around on stuff yeah drinking out of the hose uh well i don't mean just like the
Starting point is 00:51:25 old time out i mean like getting really excited um jumping in a ball pit jumping on a trampoline dude i look at my kids now they're like they're like you know there's no bottle of water and i'm like go drink out of the hose you little bastards i mean what are you talking about no i we have this fight all the time because i always go like we'll do staycations all the time i'm like you guys have some of the best pools right here in our backyard and they're like nah we're good we'll stay home i went to uh one of colt's favorite places i won't mention it because like we said i don't want to blow up the spot no that's already half off for locals just man what a great spot oh yeah our secret spot yeah my father-in-law my father-in-law
Starting point is 00:52:07 wanted a cigar bar to take his friend who was coming from cleveland so the three of us went shot machine guns had a nice lunch and then we went there for a cigar i had a cigar every five years and great and great sangria oh my god oh my god but we were walking out we left there and i'm in a great mood because we just had a cigar and old-fashioned. And you look over and you just see these buildings on the Las Vegas Strip. And I go, why don't I ever come here anymore? I like disrespect. I always appreciate Las Vegas. But I do disrespect the degree of what we have here because it's just so available.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I think we're going this week, though, because you've got to go. I mean, look, the NFL draft is here this week. If you're not going down, we've got a plan to go down. I guess Weezer's playing Thursday night. Thursday night is the only night they're going to do something over the water there. So if you want to go see what that stage is about, which we're going to go down there Thursday.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I'm hoping our sprinter van is done being – we had some warranty work on the sprinter, so I think we're going to take the sprinter down there. What do you mean we don't need the sprinter? Come to my're gonna need to Sprinter down there we don't need to spring on my House we'll hop on the monorail and be right Off right in the middle of the action you guys Are nuts point that's a good that you Know what that's a better point one of my
Starting point is 00:53:13 Clients here's the problem you part but We got a parking Colts neighborhood then your hut come back Your cars up on blocks That's a problem the only time You ever want to park in Colts neighborhood in the Country club is is if you're got new tires anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Somebody's bound to. Somebody's bound to. You need new tires anyway. We got 10 minutes left. We've been talking about nonsense now for 40 some odd minutes. But let's try to get to the topic we want to talk about, which is, again, one of my favorite Stoke quotes. We have a topic?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yes, we do. One of my favorite Stoke quotes is, do one of my favorite stoke quotes is if you do not know to which port you sail no wind is favorable is how it goes that's a seneca quote so you said something earlier we're gonna take a deep dive chris chris said something earlier which i thought was interesting which was chris said in my office he goes i am going to have my most successful financial year ever this year and i have no idea what i'm doing like in what direction because i always get these great ideas oh you know i know that there's multiple businesses that if i entered them i could figure it out and there's money to be made there
Starting point is 00:54:19 yeah i can't make more of me to go do it yeah and i don't necessarily want to take on a bunch of infrastructure to get these things done And I don't necessarily want to take on a bunch of infrastructure to get these things done. And they're sometimes in different industries. And so it kind of leaves you overwhelmed. So you're just going, well, I got this in the pipeline. I'll figure that out later because I need to address the immediate thing that I know are going to pay off.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And then after that, hopefully one day I'll have a plan. Well, you know, I got to say, I started thinking about it when you said that, because we talk about you getting opportunities all the time. And a lot of it is because you are a really smart guy. A lot of it is. Well, I would like to think it's only looks. But I'm going to tell, just because you're hot.
Starting point is 00:54:57 But a lot of it, a lot of the opportunity that you get, and I don't know this to be true. Maybe you can argue this if you'd like. You know, if you're choosing what to do in school, I think the choice of you becoming a lawyer was wise, not so much because you enjoy the day-to-day practice of trying cases or arguing with people or dealing with contracts, but it's because it makes you very attractive as a partner in these entrepreneurial businesses because you're an attorney so that is you know you can you can be brought in on minority stakes
Starting point is 00:55:33 on all these businesses just because you can handle the legal and i've levered that to my favor on a couple deals yeah that i i'm part owner of companies that are making moves and doing stuff yeah and it's you're you're definitely And I tell this to people all the time. I say, becoming a lawyer doesn't make you literally anything more than the average person does, right? I can't. You can go to court and argue for yourself. What it does is it makes you a weapon.
Starting point is 00:55:55 It makes you dangerous because you know what you're doing. You understand how to get to A to B, how to think. So that's the value of law school. And that is oftentimes not counterbalanced in business senses because a lot of lawyers are really shitty business people. Because to them, they see the whole world as what could happen. And in business, you can't always think about the dangers, the perils. Every lawyer is designed, give me a contract where nothing can happen to me right it's like well what kind of business are we doing here where you don't take risk yeah i had one of
Starting point is 00:56:31 my dear friends and clients texting me before i came in here today hey does that contract protect me i'm like what from what from what i mean like no you what you're doing is i'm trying to give you a framework so that everybody understands what's at stake and being played with that's what we do yeah and i did my mba at the same time i got my law degree over jd mba yeah so but what that does is it does let you kind of remember sometimes that that you're both a shield and a sword right a lot of times lawyers just are you know i'm a shield i'm a shield i'm a shield i'll protect you i'm a shield you need that sword though right you need to go out and battle and also kill and if you're not killing people you're just worried about what's going to happen to you and not to sound pejorative but you will be an employee your whole life because you have to take risk as an entrepreneur
Starting point is 00:57:15 as a business person so i would just like to say that you know i'm not sure if if if a vet listens to this show i'm not sure if she does but if she show. I'm not sure if she does. But if she just heard and just made it okay for you to go kill people, I think that you may want to sleep at a hotel tonight. I'm just throwing that out there, Colt. I did it, Chris. It's verdad? Yeah, you said it. It's verdad?
Starting point is 00:57:37 Oh, my God. You said it was okay. Mi esposo es verdad. I almost got killed by her this weekend because of your wife. Time to hear what happened. No, it's just because I'm like, hey, I'm going to this event, go talk to some guys about some stuff, and, you know, pushed off another event.
Starting point is 00:57:52 She's like, okay, blah, blah, blah, go ahead. The only thing she sees is me and John dancing to T.I. at the nightclub. Like, oh, nightclub event, huh? Yeah. No, no, no. That brings up a good point call you unintentionally but albeit valid good point if you are going to be an entrepreneur you need to be married to somebody who understands what that takes yeah 100 you cannot be happily married to
Starting point is 00:58:18 somebody that will get in your way when you want to go out hey i gotta go out to social things hey i gotta go meet people what percentage of your business has come in your way when you want to go out. Hey, I got to go out to social things. Hey, I got to go meet people. What percentage of your business has come in your life from you sitting at home after leaving the office from nine to five and just sitting at your house? You know, that's one of the things that I love about it. It's a trade-off, man. I think there's, you know, you always have to give, you always have to give and trade. You know, I know people that are married to have spouses where the spouses are, you know, both of them are go getters and they're out there trying to go get.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And then, you know, if you're, if you're, if you want to be the breadwinner and you want the other person to kind of take care of the household, that's going to suffer because it has to, you can't do everything right.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Right. You can't do everything in a situation like, like mine, where you have a situation where my wife, you know, is, to everything. And a situation like mine, where you have a situation where my wife is all in on those kids and the household and taking care of me and doesn't look for, she doesn't need to be on the stage. She doesn't need any of that stuff. She doesn't care. Her life is about that. Now, the sacrifice that we make is we don't have a giant dual income. It's on me to earn everything,
Starting point is 00:59:24 which is fine. And there's no right or wrong way. There's no right or wrong way. But I think that it's really hard. And Cole, you can speak to this because your wife is very successful. It's, it's gotta be hard.
Starting point is 00:59:35 You know, when both of you guys are breadwinning like that to make that jungle, it's, it's hard because you don't get to do stuff you want to do as a couple right yeah like every time she wants to go somewhere it's out well this is a client of mine let's go out right and vice versa let's go out so you know but i mean you've got to have just as much as a business partner your life partner it's just oh you better you better marry it like i better marry a spouse yeah if you're gonna get married marry a spouse yep that you would do business with trust the keys to the
Starting point is 01:00:10 kingdom i just i completely believe that no and that's what like john called me and said i want to go this scene what was that like four o'clock at night you already had event planned to go at six o'clock yes and i go hey what do you think and she's like go to it i got it yeah you gotta go something something came up that you know? And she's like, go to it. I got it. Yeah, you got to do it. Something came up that, you know, again, that's why I love those networking events, man. I never know what I'm going to learn, what I'm going to hear. And something very interesting came up through a conversation with somebody in one of those deals.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And it leaned into the commercial world. And I was like, this sounds really appealing to me. And it was something where somebody had a business that was earning millions of dollars, millions of dollars. They were just walking away from. And I was like, how can you walk away from this? And they were like, because we're going to do this. And I'm already doing this.
Starting point is 01:00:55 This is making me millions. And I barely have to leave the couch. And my risk level has gone down tremendously from this to this. This is what I'm all in on. And I was like, holy shit, Colt, get get your ass down here because we need to talk about this yeah unfortunately then ti starts rocking the house and bring them out bring them out and then you know we don't have a conversation but we're going yeah but we're gonna have a conversation and that's it and you know but you were there right or wrong yeah you were there there's no right or wrong to it right
Starting point is 01:01:22 there are people that just want like get just a perfect example my wife's perfect example you know it's like perfect example just well no but i was going to say like one extreme to the other because you know she's like hey i'm going to make sure the house like digit is the perfect that you know spouse and my spouse is like three days after giving birth like i need to get back to work i'm going insane right like you there's not too many people i could say i could give a billion dollars to and they'd still go to work and actually work and my wife is that person she just doesn't know how to shut that off right and it's it hurts because it hurts my income a little bit but but you're it's funny it's funny that you both said that because both of you if you think about it you're willing
Starting point is 01:02:04 right she goes out you take the kid and you'll post stuff and you with said that because both of you, if you think about it, you're willing, right? She goes out, you take the kid, and you'll post stuff, and you're with the kid. A lot of guys don't want to do that. And then you and your wife actually function at a very similar frequency, oddly enough, if you know both of you. Yeah. I don't think people would guess that. No. You guys are very well in line with a lot of frequency stuff of just, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:26 Understanding what the assignment is. Yeah, what it takes. I mean, no, without a question. And dude, trust me, it's not like I go home and just, like, I will do dishes. I will cook meals. I don't know about. But I do that as well. Two people need to be on the same page.
Starting point is 01:02:39 100%. And she understands what this takes. She understands the commitment that we all have to make to make this go and do what we need to do. So what do you think helps for your specific situation? Not like encouragement, but how do you feed your spouse's emotional bank account? So that's never – because here's one thing. Well, okay, yeah. You see what I mean with that?
Starting point is 01:03:04 No, no, I do. Because it does take a lot i do i do i always make sure um i try to make sure you know right now her full-time gig and it won't be her full-time gig forever you know she's all in on these kids um all in on that and any of the kids are going to grow up and go off and do their own thing god willing and um she'll move on to something else at that point. And we're already starting to kind of see and play. And my wife is a team player, man. She is my, she's my license go getter. Like if we're like, we need insurance license, she goes and gets it. We need this license. She goes and gets it. When you set this up, she goes and gets it. And she, she just handles that stuff. I mean, my, my wife, she called, you know, she has a college credit. She has a college
Starting point is 01:03:40 degree in UNLV. She's not like, not a ditz and she's very, very very smart girl you know and i think just by the way we were raised by choice we wanted to be on the kids this way and we've already kind of started fishing around for some stuff that maybe we would want to do afterwards and again you know most of what she's done over the last 10 years has been stuff that i've asked her to do right rather than stuff that she said i have a genuine interest in x and what she settles in or whatever she does when the kids get older, if we do anything, I mean, like I said, my goal is to be done with everything by the time I'm 55. So that'll be right about the time that Roma's off to college.
Starting point is 01:04:16 So who knows? But at that point, if she doesn't want to do anything, we just want to cruise around and hang out with me, that's cool too, because I like my wife. But yeah, and if she does anything else, it's going to have to be something that she likes. And, you know, again, back to the topic of what we're trying to talk about today, as we're already two minutes over, if you don't like what you do, man, or you don't, you don't feel good about it. Like you said, with frequency,
Starting point is 01:04:39 it's got to resonate within you. It's got to resonate with you. You're going to find what the number one thing that you love doing. And then it's core. And here's the, here's the, here's the good news. And this is what I told everybody from that stage. Um, we were talking about, uh, you know, doing big deals in real estate. I said, you don't have to know, you don't have to do any of this. All you have to do is understand what you don't know, go find the people that do, and then connect the dots. So you just have to enjoy whatever you're doing and then fill back, fill around it. You know, for me at its core, when I look and I ask myself what I really love to do, it's to, it's to pour into others and watch
Starting point is 01:05:17 them get better and watch them make money and watch them do that. I mean, you know, we, we get to, we get to shit here and bullshit and have a good time, you know, once a week, but at the end of the day, the by-product of this podcast hopefully is, is helping people, you know, we get to, we get to shit here and bullshit and have a good time, you know, once a week. But at the end of the day, the byproduct of this podcast hopefully is, is helping people. You know, if we reach one person with this today that was in a spot and didn't quite know what to do, right. And they heard something that one of us said, then that's a win for me. It is for me. It's just whether or not the dad joke landed. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Feel free to write, you know, if you're watching this somewhere, write in the comments, love the dad joke, hate the dad joke, whatever it was. I enjoyed it, Chris. I did enjoy the contract. I'll probably use that. But yeah, you know, but again, if you don't like what you do, life is short, man. Life is too short to just be a drone on a cog. It's not a heck yes, it's a... Yeah, that's another thing that I love that, you know, Cody's Purpose says, if it's not
Starting point is 01:06:04 hell yeah, it's got to be hell no. If you can't be all in on something don't be partially in on it um you know you only got one life to live man don't live it don't live it with waking up in the morning like oh shit i gotta deal with this today right nothing not no amount of money nothing is worth that trying man nothing is worth it all right guys well i hope you enjoyed today and if you loved what we did today, tell a friend. And if you hated what we did, tell two. Because it doesn't matter if you're talking good or bad as long as what?
Starting point is 01:06:32 As long as they're talking about you. As long as they're talking about you. See you next time. Hey, it's John Gafford. If you want to catch up more and see what we're doing, you can always go to thejohngafford.com. We'll share any links that we have, things we talked about on the show, as well as links to the YouTube where you can watch us live. And if you want to catch up with me on Instagram,
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