Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Will Colt Get Slapped for Cash? EP 20

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

The Power Move Episode 20Learn and burn Entrepreneurship from serial entrepreneur John Gafford and his band of mayhem makers. From stripper poles to the oval office, business lessons are everywhere. T...his Week:Amazing (and down right terrifying) slap champion, Slapped for Cash AKA Rick Royce, joins us in studio as we discuss side gigs and turning odd ventures into profits.With Rick Royce, Chris Connell and Colt Amidan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From the art of the deal to keeping it real. Live from the Simply Vegas studios, it's The Power Move with Jon Gafford. Welcome back. Welcome back, back again, back again, back again. It is The Power Move. I'm your host, John Gafford. Somehow more powerful. More powerful. Somehow. More powerful again.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Reaching the ether. I know, I did. I dug deep for that one. Greater amounts of power. More movement, lots of power. To my left, as promised with his new nickname, Weekly. I think we go with a handsome guy look at the thing i just got right yeah colt day shift amadan wildly appropriate but you are incredibly handsome thanks what come on what does that cost you what's that service cost i think we're gonna
Starting point is 00:00:58 refer to him as day shift for the rest of the day yeah colt day shift amadan and chris connell esquire counselor how are, how are you? How are you? Living the dream. Living the dream indeed. Well, you know what's funny, man, is lots to talk about, lots to unpack today. And I got to tell you, I saw some weird stuff this week that I wanted to kind of talk about and unpack.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Some of that- Was on the day shift. No. That's what I'm saying. You really think I'm the day shift? That's where I'm at. You got to look good in the red light. He said he'd give you a new handle every week. Yeah, but I think that I'm at least mid.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Swing shift? Swing shift? Swing's better than day. Yeah, it is. It is. I tell you what. I tell you what. I tell you what.
Starting point is 00:01:40 We're going to put you up on Satellite Show Bar 3 for a couple of days. We're going to see how it goes. We're going to see how the crowd reacts. All right? Oh, yeah. All right. You've got to stop dancing to Tie a Yellow Ribbon Around the Old Oak Tree. That is not doing you any favors at all.
Starting point is 00:01:54 You've got to get the crowd going, Colt. At some point, you've got to blame yourself. Song choice is on you, buddy. There's only so much we can do with this. It's funny we talk about Colt's second job as a daytime stripper, because obviously it doesn't take a lot to notice. If you've been out lately, there's a lot of jobs available and there's a lot of people just not working, as you've seen. And it's really interesting. And I read a very interesting
Starting point is 00:02:18 article the other day in the Las Vegas Review Journal, which Pulitzer Prize winning, I believe it is here in Las Vegas. And it was funny. know, Pulitzer Prize winning, I believe it is here in Las Vegas. And it was funny. And one of the things that was talking about why there's a labor shortage and why people aren't going back to work. And a couple of quotes from it that I thought were interesting were from UNLV professors of economics or whatever they were. And I don't have it exactly in front of me, but I'm going to paraphrase the best of my ability because I just kind of sat there and stared at it like, you ever read something? And you're like, did I read that?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Read it three other times. Wait a second. I had to have misread that. That didn't make any sense. It said, this professor said, and the quote that I remember said, during the pandemic and now coming out of it or whatever, coming out of the unemployment, people have obviously reevaluated their relationship with money, and it's just not that important to them. Okay. You know what's funny about that though? I think that that is actually quite accurate in a very perverse way. Do you know what I think it is? Oh, go ahead. Yeah. It's just, we grew up, money is a necessity for freedom. Now I think when people realize, again, it's kind of a weird situation.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I do think that there is a perverseness to that that rings true. People don't necessarily have the Ferrari ambitions maybe that they once did. So you watch TikTok, you watch Instagram, all these people out there balling their ass off. Yeah. Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Oh, yeah. I got to tell you, the reality of that is slim to few people have that kind of philosophy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But I'll get this way. Right. There are a ton of jobs available out there. And it is everything. I think what's happened is most Americans that had those jobs that, you know, are the, let's just call them jobs. Just their jobs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's a job. You show up, you go into drone mode and you just call them jobs. They're jobs. It's a job. You're going to work. You show up, you go into drone mode, and you just get it done. They don't want those jobs anymore. And that's why the other day we go to Baskin-Robbins. And how many flavors of Baskin-Robbins? What are they famous for? Does anybody remember this?
Starting point is 00:04:17 31. 31. You know how many flavors they had at Baskin-Robbins? Six. Three. Three. Did they have quarterback crunch? I'm not even joking. That's a mess. Three straight flavors at Baskin-Robbins. That's Three. Did they have quarterback brunch? I'm not even joking.
Starting point is 00:04:25 That's a mess. Three straight flavors at Baskin-Robbins. That's all you get. That's 10x deflation. Yeah, dude, it was insane. And of course, they're just like this, COVID, what are you going to do? So annoying. Dude.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And it's crazy. So I'm reading further in this article, and it's talking about workforce valuing freedom over money. They want freedom of things. And some of these apps, I've never heard of this before. I don't know if you've heard of this. There's an app called Bacon. Have you heard of this thing yet?
Starting point is 00:04:51 No. All right. Essentially what Bacon is, is it's gig work for those drone jobs. Like you need warehouse help. You need some basic job you need done. You need a restaurant dishwasher, whatever you need. They just put up the shift on Bacon. And you go and you do the job and you leave. Bring home the bacon.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But it's exactly the point of the app. But it's your choice if you go to work or not. Like 100% in your choice what you do. Well, I mean, here's the thing. The argument on the right is that people are just kind of lazy, entitled, and they're just watching their own futures dwindle. Argument on the left is we need to pay people a gajillion dollars over market so that people feel respected, whatever. And I look at it and I go, when you look at the economics of all this, wages are set based on supply and demand, right?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Sure. So they're going to move how they move. Every economics professor that I've ever met, left or right, looks at it and goes, you know, minimum wage is a big problem. If you spike it to 15, you're going to lose a lot of jobs. The aggregate net effect is a decrease in jobs. Right. So I think a lot of people compete. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:57 See, I don't think so. I don't think it's a decrease in jobs. I think it's a decrease in businesses. I think you see a lot of businesses just completely the same. It's a decrease in supply of jobs. Just go under. I think what a lot of people are seeing is I think all three of us are kind of our own business, right? Sure. And I think what people realize is they're just in this rut day to day and all of a sudden it came to a stop.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And they're like, you know what? This is kind of nice that I'm here with my kids at, you know, 3 o'clock. I think if they made it more remote on the ones that they could, it would get it. See, that's the problem, though. Some of these jobs require you to be there to move a box from point A to point B and put it on a truck so it arrives at this other location. What happens?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Automation. Yeah. But we had a doctor who was like, it's not like being there that long. It's like, you're a doctor. You think you can do this remote, which there are, but I think people saw the freedom. I mean, I think me and you, that's what was the allure to real estate was the freedom, right? And I think that's what people sit there and say, well, do I need that nice car? Maybe I can dumb down my car a little bit and
Starting point is 00:06:58 have a little more freedom. I think people are starting to realize, hey, maybe the Kardashian, you know, lifestyle is not realistic. And let me have a little bit of freedom where I can hang out with my guy. I would just like to say, I just want to say one thing very clear about that, which is, Cole, if you look like a Kardashian, you'd get off day shift. If you just made the effort. I am way better looking than you. What's the guy's name?
Starting point is 00:07:24 There's a lot of people. Rob? No. Way better looking than the few, John. What's the guy's name? There's a lot of people. Rob? Rob? No. Way better looking than you. There's a lot of people on the night shift, John, that aren't necessarily as handsome, but who put in the effort. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It is about effort. It is about effort. You got a smile on your face? Yes. You want to be here? That's exactly right. Guess what? Have you ever seen that unfiltered picture of the Kardashians?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Of course. I'm way better looking than the Kardashians. I'm not going to disagree with you, buddy. No, I'm not either. Handsome guy. I can way better looking than the Kardashians. I'm not going to disagree with you, buddy. No, I'm not either. Handsome guy. I can see you. What is it? No, I'm not machine gun Kelly.
Starting point is 00:07:49 The other one. I could totally see you guys dating. Oh, she's actually the hottest one. The oldest? Megan Fox? No, no, no. Travis. Travis Barker one.
Starting point is 00:07:57 What's her name? Chloe or whatever. I don't know. Here's a question, though. Here's a question, though. Every time I see those girls now licking their boyfriends on TV, I'm thinking the show's over. And one word comes to mind, thirsty.
Starting point is 00:08:11 A little thirsty. And that was the Pamela Anderson, like, last cry for attention. I'm going to lick Kid Rock on the end of this yacht. Well, it wasn't Kid Rock, but yeah. Tom Lee. She was licking a lot of people back then. There was a lot of licking going on from her. Yeah, I mean, it's your last hurrah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Go for it, girl. But I think the point of today's show is where we lead off talking about this stuff. I want to talk about the side hustle. I want to talk about how to get a side hustle, when it's a good idea to get a side hustle. How do you balance that out? And how do you take it and create income from relatively some obscure places? We do have an in-studio guest today on today's episode that's kind of interesting. This is a cat that I met not too long ago. I ran into him at one
Starting point is 00:08:51 of Sean Kelly's crypto events and he came up and he's like, hey bro, I wanted to meet you. And I'm like, what's up, man? And he told me his name and we were chatting and I was like, what do you do? And he's like, I smack people for money. I'm like, what'm like what he goes yeah i'm slapped for cash and i look i'm like oh my god as soon as you said it like i knew who he was from like the internet videos of him smacking the absolute taste out of people's mouth for money i can't believe colt has volunteered i know it's gonna be so in-house later i thought i gotta slap him no no no no he's he's slapping no you go back and forth yeah oh really Oh, really? Yeah, it's a context. He goes first, then you go. This could be your foray into the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:09:30 This is Johnny Knoxville. Right here. It could be it. You could go there. I mean, this might ruin my Olympic career. No, all I'm going to say is when you see this dude, your tune is going to totally change about wanting any pieces. Is he going to be like my size or is he going to be Chris' size? Yeah, he's closer to that.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Dude, he's ginormous. He's ginormous. Anyway, he's going to come on later and we're going to delve into that, that like how you take something that is so insane and he's turned into a decent clip of money, man. He's, he's turned it into that.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And, and there's, there's two parts of that really. I think I don't want to talk with him about him, which is going to be number one, how to find something, a niche and turn it into money. But more importantly,
Starting point is 00:10:02 the importance of just attention, the importance of just attention the importance of eyeballs because he did a couple things through his little career of slapping that uh slapping forget for cash or whatever they're pretty interesting man i as i talked to him i'm like bro this is an interesting story i want to have like the you know the elevator pitch like he got the best elevator pitch i'm gonna digress from there right now so today i'm gonna digress because you just brought that up and dude holy holy crap. No, this, this is like the best entrepreneurial advice I can give you. If you have a new product, if you have a new product or service that you
Starting point is 00:10:34 are trying to sell, if you cannot explain said service or product in under 10 seconds, you have screwed up. Apple made an entire career. Steve Jobs whole thing was we want to be impossible to make things. We want this to be so self-explanatory and impossible to understand, right? This is what we want. I was at the Inman conference today. We've got a big deal going down there.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And they have what's called Startup Alley, which is normally my favorite part of the whole convention. It's where you walk down and, you know, you've got the big booths on the inside where people are making money already and they're already killing it. And they got the big booths, right inside where people are making money already and they're already killing it and they got the big boosts right and you know you are i already saw your stuff i've already seen it there's nothing new to it i want to go see the the new
Starting point is 00:11:12 stuff where i don't know anything about it so me and the ceo for our company is walking are walking down startup alley and these are the pitches i'm getting and this is a verbatim pitch i got for something i said what does your product do and guy said, we have essentially digitized the whiteboard. We've created a front facer consumer experience that is integrating with what I'm just like, lame in terms. He got done. And I was like, um, what? Okay. And then like, I went to the next guy and I was like, what did you do? And he goes, well, we have a QR code that's for open houses. And when you come in, as you registered, you get to guess the final sales price of the house. And if it's exactly right, we'll pay that person $500. And they will actually, he told me this, not, not, it was like 60 seconds.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So I said, essentially you've gamified the open house process. And he was like, yes. And I was like, okay, cool. I get, I get that. And he was like, yes. And I was like, okay, cool. I get, I get that. It's easy, easy peasy. And then we go to the next person and then they've got like, I still don't really know what they do.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And they got, I had like literally three people talking at me at one time. Jargon. Just, just, okay, no, what we've done is we've created an experience that integrates with the
Starting point is 00:12:21 Oculus and overall platforms and this and that you can tour 3d. And I'm like, okay, do you integrate with like Matterport tours? They're like, no, right now it's proprietary and this and that. But okay, well, who's your customer? How do you generate revenue? Well, agents are going to give us $99 a listing to help do this. I'm like, so you agents are going to give you $99 to list their property on your platform? That nobody's on. That nobody's on? Okay. That's luck. I was like, I wish you guys well. Obviously, you shouldn't have talked to anybody.
Starting point is 00:12:45 So again, if you have a product and you can't explain it in a way that makes sense instantly to people in less than 10 seconds, don't bother. Not only makes sense, but like how it's going to be monetized. People said, they asked me, what do you do? And I said, we build mortgage and real estate. I said, we build mortgage and title companies for large real estate brokers across the country and 10X their bottom line. Impossible to misunderstand what we do. Here's what we do, who we do it for,
Starting point is 00:13:09 how much, what the result is when we do it. That's it. I mean, it's just, it's that simple, but some of these people are just, it was insane. It was insane. Yeah. People can jargon these tech people. So I had a call today. I'm, I'm, I'm developing an app for my, my business and I put out some feelers. Hey, I'm looking for today. I'm developing an app for my business. And I put out some feelers. Hey, I'm looking for... Because I don't know the first thing about app development. To me, what I want should be pretty simple. I got two ideas.
Starting point is 00:13:32 We talked about one of them. The other one's just going to be informational. Hey, download this if you're ever in a car accident. Pull up my app. Bang, you have the information. Don't talk to this person. Call the police. Here's a number.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Here's some information. Just so you have it. Oh, shit, I got hit. Call the police. Here's a number. Here's some information. Just so you have it. Oh, shit, I got hit. Car accident. Done. I think it's been done before. I just want one that's labeled for me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I get on. See, what's more importantly you should do is you do it for yourself and then you private label it to other people that don't do it for themselves. Yeah, that's something we're going to be working on. Slow down, Turbo. Slow down there. Slow down. So I said to this person, she calls me up.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Oh, she goes, oh, what's your elevator pitch for making money? I go, have you listened to two things of what I've just said? Yeah. What are you talking about elevators? I just told you. I just told you. This is an app for marketing for my company. I don't need it to make money.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I'm not trying to make money on this. Right. Yeah. It's just you're going through your rope process. That's what happens. These people, they kind of self-congratulate. If you go to a WeWork right now, if you go sit around all the entrepreneurs or the startups, they have these lofty ideas that never go anywhere because they just get wrapped up in a jargon. They assume everybody thinks like
Starting point is 00:14:34 they do. They speak in terms of what we call Chinese math. If I can get one out of a thousand people to do this, I'll have a million customers. That's all Chinese math in the business. It's like you can't top down certain things. You have to, that QR code. Oh, people, they're going to pop the thing. QR codes are now back. People are starting to do this. Everyone has a smartphone. Here's why it makes sense. People want to do that. Okay, got it. Excellent. Yeah, it makes sense. Well, I found a lot of the products down there today too. It's like, dude, did you even ask somebody if this was remotely something they would use, or did you just make it happen?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Hey. There he is right there, my man. Give me a couple minutes left for cash. Just walked in. We're going to get you set up in about five minutes. We're ready to go. All right, hang on. He's a lot bigger than I am.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Hey, Colt, you still going? Yeah, Colt. Where we at, Colt? How we doing? Hey, Colt, you got out. How you feeling, Colt? I was a little nervous just him looking at it like there's no escape he's in the escape he's in the only one one exit of this room shit i know
Starting point is 00:15:32 go chris go damn bro that dude looks like he's here to collect some money oh boy yeah what do you own colt what'd you say yeah what happened there man what happened there oh shit no but but you know i think right now asking people is where you're going. And that is huge. I think you've got to find out if people want your product. Which, again, is why I always say, if you're going to build a new product or system, try to sell it before you build it. Because literally, I've said it before,
Starting point is 00:15:54 I've got a bottle of vitamins in my office that I keep there that is 20-some-odd years old because we've dumped a lot of money into something that nobody wanted. And a script from NBC. Yeah, that was it. Oh, we still haven't seen the good script. We haven't seen that yet. About to show you that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 But back to the side hustle. We're finding interesting ways to make money, man, in things that you want to do. You know, there's the Gary Vee, you know, his whole go to garage sales and find stuff to flip on the stupid thing. I mean, you know, I don't know, man. Works for some. Yeah, it works for some,, I don't know, man. Works for some. Yeah, it works for some, but I don't dig for it. You've got to have a hustler spirit for some of these things. I agree.
Starting point is 00:16:30 There are some products that are good. And then there are some times where it's like, hey, save up money, do what you've got to do, and franchise a small business or something. Or there's a path for everybody, but it's not. People listen to the rah-rah Gary V's and they listen to the, oh, what you've got to do is you've got to get out there and hustle. And a lot of those people, nobody listen to the rah-rah Gary V's and they listen to the, oh, what you got to do is you got to get out there and hustle. And a lot of those people, nobody wants to do business with them because they smell like MLM. Well, no, no, I'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But like the first place, if I was like right now sitting here listening to this and I'm like, crap, I got to make some extra money right now, what would I do? Right? And I was starting, let's call it starting from tap dead zero. Right? That's where I was starting, let's call it starting from tap dead zero, right? That's where I was at. The first thing I would do to try to get some money coming in, some capitalized stuff as I go to Fiverr and I would go to those websites and I would look for people to do different jobs that I kind of somewhat knew how to do with a computer that have like, like for example, let's say it's designing a header for Facebook pages or whatever it is, who cares? And I'm looking for somebody
Starting point is 00:17:22 that's done this 800 times. Well, that tells me there's a lot of demand for that particular job. I'm going to put up my ad, I'm going to undercut this guy and I'm going to try to generate some money. But there's a lot of things you can do on Fiverr that are virtual assistant work. Now you're not going to be able to get in there, you know, 18, $20 an hour, but if you don't have to leave, you know, there's an offset here for the value of not having to leave your couch. Yeah, sure. And the reason I say you're not going to get 18, 20 bucks an hour on some of that stuff is because there are people in Pakistan, there are people in Bangladesh, there are people in the Philippines that will do it for far less. Yeah. But the value of the reshoring, what they call it, that was the business model for a long
Starting point is 00:17:56 time. Let's offshore to India. But I have a virtual assistant in the Philippines and great English, but you can still tell that they're not native English. Yeah. You can't, no, no. The one thing I'll say about VAs is you cannot do front facing VAs. I hate that. You know, the funniest thing to me is whenever I get a phone call from a broker in town that will call me recruiting me as though I'm a real estate agent, calling to recruit me as an agent and the person on the phone could barely speak English. It's like, bro, this, this is what you want me to think about your company. And, you know, again, like I said, laws of business from a couple episodes ago,
Starting point is 00:18:32 when your competitors make a mistake, you don't stop them. So I'm just like, carry on my friend, carry on. Cause I have no fear of you taking any of my people with that, that kind of a move. Just no, no fear. Well, I just going to say, and I think you've got to look and figure out what you love, right? Like I think people just say, well, I see someone making money. Let me go do it. If you don't have passion, your side hustle will never be your main hustle, right? Like if you don't have passion behind it, and there's also times that you don't need a side hustle, put more work into your thing, right? I love that. I love, I love that too. I don't need a side hustle. My, my
Starting point is 00:19:09 income is unlimited. This is why I can just go put more money in my business. No, but this is like multi-level marketing with real estate agents. I mean, it's kind of rampant in our industry. Everybody's multi-level marketing. They're always trying to get on the next level, multi-level deal, whatever it is. And I always tell people, man, if you just invested as much energy into this side thing as you do into your main thing, the main thing would pay you way more. Your main thing actually has a huge return. You've got to be very careful and be honest with yourself if your, quote, unquote, side hustle is a distraction to your main hustle.
Starting point is 00:19:39 There's a reason you might be wallowing in mediocrity, and some of that might be your focus might be all over the place. Colt's point, though, about do what you're passionate about don't you know that's that whole mcavillian never hire uh never hire a militia to fight for your country yeah you gotta have people who are willing to die for their that's right blood and sand that's right you know if you have people that are just doing for money they'll walk right yeah right so you gotta be careful that goes back to the first thing you were talking about. Which is Colt's lack of dedication. Oh, I thought you were talking about Colt's lack of dedication.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I was going to say, my side hustle is the best. I mean, name a better side hustle than stripping. I mean, name it. I can do it at night. You guys don't know about that. I do it at night at the Olympic Gardens. So there's a cost. I'm not going to mention which club, but there is a huge cost.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And a lot of times the management is, you know, greasing their palms on a lot of the stuff. Oh, yeah, you got to pay everyone. They pay. Pay to play. You pay to play. Pay to play. You pay more. And those managers are sometimes walking with big bucks that are undeclared
Starting point is 00:20:39 or whatever. And not all the employees are always happy about it. That's why they sometimes come. That's why the IRS. Chris Connelly Squire. Chris Connelly Squire. IRS took them all down. are always happy about it. That's why they sometimes come and come in. Chris Connell at Squire. Chris Connell at Squire. IRIS took them all down. That could be your niche.
Starting point is 00:20:48 No, but they come in cycles because the next generation of greedy guys is going to be sitting there going, I can make today X on top of it. That could be your total niche. Strippers that are ripped off by managers of strip clubs. I like the niche. Your write-offs, all the great write-offs you'd have sitting there all day. You know, something about coming in there, And get your ride-offs, all the great ride-offs you'd have sitting there all day. You know, something about coming in there.
Starting point is 00:21:10 The only time I get off is during the mid-shift, John. I know. That's a good point. I see Colt looking unimpressed. He's just got that dead stare. Was I in my cowboy outfit? What was I in that day? Just a dead stare. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:21:23 All right. We're going to take a quick quick break, I guess we are, because my dude Slapper Cash is here. And, bro, he is not the kind of guy I want to keep waiting, so I'm going to get him in here as soon as possible. This guy is huge. That was fucking huge. Hey, it's John Gafford.
Starting point is 00:21:39 If you want to catch up more and see what we're doing, you can always go to thejohngafford.com, where we'll share any links of things we talked about on the show, as well as links to the YouTube where you can watch us live. And if you want to catch up with me on Instagram, you can always follow me at thejohngafford. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Give me a shout. Back from break, as promised. And there he is in all of his glory, Colt. This guy is my man, Slapper Cash. He is a lot bigger than I anticipated. If you don't know Chris Connell, you're watching this. You've got to check it out on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He makes Chris look small. Chris, what are you, 6'4"? Almost, yeah, 270. 270, 6'4". 270. It's my man, Slapper Cash ran into to my to mr we're calling you mr royce we're just going to slap for cash the lady up front called me tom so i kind of like that name i guess that's my real estate name thomas cash thomas cash so so i run into him
Starting point is 00:22:42 at a crypto event last weekend we started chatting and he's telling me kind of his story about what he does and i'm like oh man i totally i instantly remembered who you were when you said that and then i was like bro i gotta get y'all because we're gonna talk about side hustles and how to turn interesting things into uh into decent clips of money man and you've done quite well with this so walk me through it bro where do you start out tell me about you where you from where to start Start at the beginning. Take me back to the beginning, my friend. I'm from Lansing, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Lansing, Michigan. Yeah. The Sunshine State. Real bright. No, no. That's not the Sunshine. I don't know about that, man. It's pretty boring back there.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Pretty boring. Just back home, there's really not a lot of things to do, and we just would create stuff and film it. You know what's funny, man? I used to drive through Lansing once a week. Yeah. I did. Mock me if you will, Mr. Chris Connell.
Starting point is 00:23:32 We can talk about Hooters. We are going to talk about Hooters, which I was the director of those restaurants in Michigan, and I lived in Royal Oak in Detroit, and I had to drive to Muskegon and Grand Rapids once a week. Are you from there? No, man. I'm from Florida.
Starting point is 00:23:46 That was the first place. What the fuck were you doing in Michigan? No, they moved me to Michigan. I literally called my boss after the first winter, and I said, let me tell you a story about a guy named John. He said, what's up? I'm like, I'm moving back to Orlando, Atlanta in two weeks. He goes, you're quitting? I said, that all depends on you.
Starting point is 00:24:03 He called me back an hour later and goes, all right, dude, Orlando orlando i'm like sold to the man in black that was it so you're from lansing you start filming yourself doing goofy things on the uh on the youtube there and how does that progress to this man um well i started it just just for comedy we were doing a lot of comedy back then and then yeah I just thought it was funny to slap people. And by slap, I think that's an understatement. How many people have you just absolutely... Shadow realm. Yeah, sent to the shadow realm when you've slapped them.
Starting point is 00:24:40 How many people has that happened? It's somewhere like 67 people. Really? Where do you find these people? Because I am telling you, it is, I don't know how much money you'd have to pay me to do that. Chris Bounds Well, I stopped doing the slap videos for a while. And then I came out, I was in Las Vegas for probably about two years. And out here, well, if you live in the city part everybody's asking you
Starting point is 00:25:06 for money everywhere you go like hey man can i get some change one day i was just having a really bad day and i remembered that i used to slap people and it felt good i was like hey i'll tell you what i'll give you 20 bucks no it wasn't 100 it was 20 i was like i'll give you we're in the city keep in mind this is downtown you're where i was like, I'll give you, we're in the city. Keep in mind. This is downtown. You're where I live. This is where Colt lives. Yeah, we're like a naked city. Yeah, that's my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:25:30 People don't know where that is. That's by the stratosphere. Yeah. So I told the guy, give him 20 bucks. And he's like, all right, well, yeah, let's do it. And I didn't, my camera guy, at the time, I had a buddy of mine. We just bought a camera. And I made him my camera guy.
Starting point is 00:25:45 He was sleeping. This was like 2 a.m. I woke him up, I'm like, I found somebody to slap. He's like, what? I'm like, yeah, he's right here. Brought him into the high rise. The guy's just, he's like, all right, let's do it. I slapped him, and that video actually went viral,
Starting point is 00:26:01 and it made me want to do, once you see success in anything, you're like, oh, once you see success in anything. Oh, sure. You know, you're like, oh, shit. Well, we got. Yeah. We talk about that all the time here, which is attention is the key for anything. And if you can get attention, that's a good thing anyway. You get it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah. So it was like my first, my first real success of, you know, views, I guess you could call it. How many views that video again? That one got 600 000 only 600 000 probably more now yeah that that back then it wasn't like uh facebook that's a lot yeah there wasn't like facebook videos how you can right you can you can put it got millions of yeah so it was just it was strictly just to youtube and they had to find it there and that was it yeah back then it was you had had Worldstar, you had all these different
Starting point is 00:26:45 places you could go viral, you had YouTube. That was pretty much it. Now there's Instagram, there's TikTok, there's Facebook, there's Snapchat. You know, it's evolved for sure. So that video goes, that video does 600,000 views.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, 600,000 views back then would probably be like a 10 million view video today. Oh, dude, for sure. So what 600,000 views back then would probably be like a 10 million video today. Oh, dude, for sure. You know? So what was the monetization like then? Because obviously at 600,000 views, you're like, okay, I got to figure out how to monetize this thing. I got to start trying to figure out how to make some money. So if you don't have an account set up or something that people will steal your videos and put it on their channel so their channel gets bigger.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So that's what they did. They stole my videos. The only thing that it helped me do was grow my brand. Yeah. So it was like for free, but it grew my brand. So as the brand starts to take off, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:37 How long before, how long from that first video that you smacked the taste out of somebody's mouth? Did that guy live? Oh yeah. Yeah. They've all lived. He lived.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Teeth. How many teeth are knocked out? Have you knocked a tooth out? That's a good question. What's the lightest injury someone's had? The lightest, not the hardest. Colt's actually thinking about it. I'm just, if you, a lot of our subscribers listen,
Starting point is 00:28:00 this guy is massive. I am 6'2", 190 pounds, and he's two of me like you are massive you know you haven't talked about colt is why you're still in the day shift my next question was maybe he's a poet though why are you talking about what olympic sport do you think you could be a power lifter i believe that i did power lifting for six years so you did this so you see you were an athlete in power. So as someone that could have competed there, do you think that just from looking at them, there's any sport on the planet that Colt could possibly go to the Olympics and do? Water polo?
Starting point is 00:28:34 That's too hard. Equestrian. Too hard. The horse does everything. You just have to hold on to a horse, right? Or secondly, the quick walk. Speed walking. Power walking, right?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Are you with me on this? It's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. Look at who's got my back. I finally found someone who's got my back. And you want to tell me he's not wrong? Always go for the underdogs. Yeah, always go for the underdogs.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I'm with you. Detroit Lions fan? Oh, no. Okay. God. That's too much to live with. It would be. I was going to say, if you want to be really well for an underdog right now.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I know. So we get 600,000 views. We get 600,000 views. We start to grow a band. People are ripping off your videos. How do you get it? When you first start monetizing, what were you doing for like a living at this point? Back then, I was actually, I'm a businessman.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So back then, I was running a clothing store. Oh, nice. Yeah, I was running, I was selling clothes. So I was selling clothes to, I was selling high-end clothes. So I'd go down to L.A., I would go in the district and just see what kind of deals I could get. A lot of times if something's wrong with the shirt or a suit, they'll give it to you discount because they can't sell it. Right. You know, they can't sell it where they're selling it because something's wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And a customer sees that, it makes their brand worth less. So it gets kicked back on to the street where all these street vendors will sell it. But everybody's trying to save money. So I'd go and buy clothes for dirt cheap, bring them back to Vegas and just resell them. Selling there. Love the analogy. So, like, when did you start your first business? You're a business guy.
Starting point is 00:30:04 When did you start? First business. I're a business guy. When did you start? First business. I was selling things when I was a kid, man. Second grade. They shut the pop machines down. I went to the store, grabbed some 12-packs, brought them back to school, started selling pop and candy. Dude, I'm telling you, that is consistent. Everybody I know that is successful as an entrepreneur was hustling as a kid something.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Oh, yeah. I had that kid hustle. My parents never gaveling as a kid, something. Oh yeah. My parents never gave us money. So they're always an hour out. Yeah. Figure away. Yeah. We would go out, we would take an inflatable raft out of the golf course and like dive with
Starting point is 00:30:36 scuba mass. And this is in Florida too. So there's a water mosque and gator tissues at these things and grab the golf balls and then just hang around the greens and sell them to the golfers. That's what I was. My house was a kid yeah we did we did pretty well man you know the golf course didn't like it very much but what are you gonna do so were you doing slapping before that video went viral or were you just doing other stuff and you said let
Starting point is 00:30:56 me just slap you like um so before that back when i was in l Lansing, we would do slap videos, but they never took off. They never, my friends would watch them. I always thought I had something there. I never understood why I wasn't getting views. People, I guess we're living in a day and age where we want to see success right away. Yeah. No, dude, that's true. But dude, so you took this, you start making these videos,
Starting point is 00:31:25 you start monetizing your YouTube channel, yes? Did it eventually become enough that you could let go of the store? Did it become the main hustle? No. I've always just, I've always wanted to do videos
Starting point is 00:31:36 and do comedy stuff. Buying and selling things has always been my number one. Yeah. Over anything. Well, that's a good point. So, so, so if the average Joe is a home right now, cause we were just talking about side hustles, man, looking for ways that you can generate money. Cause now obviously, you know, we've seen it. There's unemployment everywhere. Cause nobody wants to do these menial jobs anymore. Nobody wants to do them. So what advice would you give for somebody listening to this right now that just wants to pick up a side hustle? What should they flip? What should they look for? What would you do, man, if you're starting from tap dead zero? I think I'm just
Starting point is 00:32:11 a different kind of person. I'm, I'm hungry. You know, I came from, he's gonna eat you cold. He's gonna eat you before this is over. I want to see a video because I'm the guy that stays off of stuff, so I'm not quite sure. But you hit with your arm? Where's an illegal slap, right? Like open hand slap? So I did the slap for cash stuff. I created the whole slapping foundation, I guess you could call it. And then I had some Russian guys reach out to me and talk about doing a show.
Starting point is 00:32:46 At the time, they were in russia i was in america so it really wasn't working out us uh coming together and creating a show so they winded up creating a show his name's amirian and he created a whole russian slap contest yeah i've seen those and so at first when i was doing my slap videos, I'd get a lot of hate mail and a lot of people writing me. It's terrible when you do this. Like the bum fight backlash. Oh, yeah. And I created my stuff right after bum fights. Which is also from Vegas.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah, that guy. Yeah. So that didn't help. That doesn't help. Do you still get a lot of hate mail? I'd imagine you do. No. Because it's mainstream now. yeah well the videos are the mainstream thing so what helped this whole slap thing is the russians believe it or not because my buddies were like don't don't collab
Starting point is 00:33:35 with them don't give them any juice for their shows because their shows they actually put a lot of money money into it yeah mine's kind of like we just pull up and slap the shirt edit the videos what do you have to pay somebody nowadays sorry to cut you off if we could get a slap on demand like i can order you like a fucking grub hub and you'll just show up and slap him is what i wanted when i need this this is service i think it'd be waivers gold places i'm wondering waivers they have to sign waivers now yeah yeah yeah pretty pretty stern waiver when we first started it they didn't yes uh somebody said well when you really make it people are coming out they're gonna come for you two-year statute limitations don't worry about it yeah oh well shit got attorneys in the xcs there you go so what so we never got this answer what's
Starting point is 00:34:22 the lightest damage you've done to somebody? Concussion? Well, there was for a while I was only slapping people like 30, 40%. I really wasn't hitting them hard. Still, you're 30, 40%. Yeah. But this is where it gets at. This is the part of the story I think gets interesting. Because then, because you're doing well, you've got some monetize,
Starting point is 00:34:42 you've got some fame from this thing, you're getting a couple hundred thousand views on your video. And then some wannabe internet celebrity fighters start calling you, right? Yeah. You get a phone call. Yeah. Yeah. I've met a lot of people just from doing these videos.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I had Logan Paul reach out to me and had me come on his show. And he asked if he could slap me. And I was like, man, I don't know. You know, I don't really want to be slapped. And he's like, just go with it. Just go with it. And I'm like, what does go with it mean? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Fake it? No, dude, just go with it. Go with it? Like fake it? I'm like, I'm thinking my stuff's not taking off that as much as I would like for it to go. You know, he's in 15, million views so video some of his videos you know so i'm like does go with it mean a bag of cash does go with it what is it what does go with it mean
Starting point is 00:35:33 yeah what are we really talking about i slap you and you just fall down i was like well and then we we came up with a number and he gave me he paid me and uh he did slap me, and when he slapped me, I fell forward. So when I slap people, they always go backwards or behind in the next universe. The shadow realm is that way. The shadow realm is behind you. The shadow realm is that way. For some reason, when this video where I'm getting slapped,
Starting point is 00:35:58 I just fall down and go frontwards. Yeah. Well, the reason is you took a dive. Yeah. A lot of people believe that it was real. And I was going to let people think that until I got back to Vegas. Two weeks went by and I see a podcast and somebody and he's on there saying, oh, yeah, I knocked this American slap champion out. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I got to do a round two.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I said. I was like, round two, dude. Oh, you're not getting away with this. So then I called a couple people, and they got me a podcast. We started talking about what actually happened, and everybody was like, was the slap real? I'm like, yeah, the slap was real, but the reaction was fake. And they're like, oh, what did he pay you? And went over everything, and it got back to him.
Starting point is 00:36:49 The interview actually went on E! Entertainment tonight, Hollywood. Went on all these different places that take your video basically. Yeah. You know. Then I said, well, you're doing all this boxing stuff. If you want to box, we can find out what would really happen. So there was a boxing match set up between me and Logangan really kidding no oh man and he's like well we can he's like come to la and i'll rip your head off he said that on uh i believe he put the video on twitter and that went viral so you're like okay i'm coming to la
Starting point is 00:37:18 yeah like two weeks later i was in la right at his front door and we did a video and his buddy came out and he wouldn't fight he's he's not here. He's not here right now. Well, it's funny cause his dog actually got loose that day and ran out in the yard and he chased his dog out there and then I got, Oh really? Yeah. So I seen him at the side of his gate in LA. You could see, uh, see part of the yard. Yeah. So he was in there. He was hiding. Yeah. My people were who I was with one camera guy and I was with a boxing
Starting point is 00:37:48 trainer. And when I seen him, I was like, you're scared. You're scared. And he was like, just looked at me and he just went right back in the house. Well,
Starting point is 00:37:56 I got to tell you something though, man, cause I watched, I watched a video of you on that podcast when you were talking about what happened. And the smartest thing you said was that, that is indisputably true. You said, what am I going to do, dude? He smacks me and I stand there laughing at him. He's
Starting point is 00:38:11 not sharing that. He's not sharing that with anybody. That's not going anywhere. I had to make the guy look good. Cause if I didn't, I wasn't going to go anywhere. Yeah. So definitely they're narcissists. So, you know, everything has to go their way. Everything's about them. So if this guy slaps me on his network, right, and I just look at him, I'm like, ha-ha, you slap like a bitch. He's not going to put that up. No, there's no way. You ever backhand people? Always four.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I don't know. Colton? I'm like, I want to. He is mesmerized by this right now. No, I really am, guys. I mean, not every day you get to talk to some of the slaps people for a living. Like, I dream to slap at least one person a day. I'm like, oh, I'd love to open hands.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So, Colt, wait, Colt, Colt, you get to talk to your wife every day. I'm pretty sure. He gets slapped around a lot. She slaps me around. Fetish comes from a little bit. She's like backhands me. She never opened hands. Just so you're aware, every Father's Day I call,
Starting point is 00:39:06 I wish his wife happy Father's Day. Every Father's Day. I was actually married to a Mexican woman at one time. Do you understand this? You were afraid of her, weren't you? So you know about the chancla. Were you afraid of her? Were you afraid? I got the hell out of there.
Starting point is 00:39:16 There you go. I told you, if he's afraid, I'm okay with being afraid of her. I just couldn't handle it anymore. It was torture. They'll kill you. They'll love you It was torture. They'll kill you. They'll love you to death, but they'll kill you. They're very passionate, but they're very evil. Well, there you see.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Colt's like, it wasn't me. It was the Slap for Cash guy. Can we get this guy on every day? He thinks I can be an Olympian, and he's with me against being afraid of my wife. I love this guy. Do you want me to go slap people with you i mean i'll go slap people plus one the entourage just grew by one i think my my wrist would probably break if i slap somebody but oh god yeah you're definitely you're picking them up left and right so what's the worst damage
Starting point is 00:39:58 you've done to somebody no one's answering this question i want no damage as your attorney i advise you oh yeah maybe we shouldn't have. What's the lightest? Now, if you go home and slap your wife tonight, I'm not going to. My wife will not. No, no, no. My wife would, if I got in a boxing ring, I think she's the one girl that would go. One thing I know about Cole is he doesn't hit back. I'm pretty sure he doesn't hit back.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But she is one of those. Yeah, we had somebody crash a wedding, and she went after him. I had some guys. I'm like, yeah, that's the one girl you don't want to go after. It's the small Latinas that are the craziest. You know, my wife was 5'1", 115 pounds. There you guys go. He's afraid.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Honey Badger will take on three African lions. Yeah. So you now got like almost a million million followers i had a snoop dogg share my video uh 2020 was a big year for me as far as uh people shared my videos i had a nick and nate diaz share my videos before that's awesome yeah so i got part of their fan base. Snoop Dogg shared my video. I got 9.5 million views on Instagram. Wow. Dog father. That's it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 What's progressing now? Yeah, Andy Ruiz. That's where I got a lot of my boxing fans. Oh, yeah. Andy Ruiz, when he was the heavyweight champ of the world, I actually lived with him for six months. Oh, wow. Yeah, he bought a bunch of houses.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah, he did. He bought some out here here and he bought um what two houses here and he bought uh houses in a couple rolls royces yeah he went crazy yeah all kinds of stuff i was around him around that time and were you really yeah he had a house he bought here and he was putting all this nice stuff in it he just needed somebody there that he knew and and you're like yeah man i'm good with that i can make that happen if anybody breaks in baby yeah that's a good point yeah you're a walking security system as it is name for your hand like just yeah yeah colt colt is charlene that's yeah that's what he calls it it's a whole different story with this with this crazy name he what he calls his head. It's a whole different story. Logan Paul came up with this crazy name. He calls me the Slapmaster.
Starting point is 00:42:08 The Slapmaster. So I've seen him a couple times in public. Have you tried to get a fight now with him? I think eventually something will happen. I think deep down inside he wants to fight me so he can prove to himself that he's the bigger guy. Yeah. But, you know, and i know he's
Starting point is 00:42:26 in shape i'm not worried about that because i'm around pro fighters and i got my own boxing stuff and i got a boxing match april 3rd yeah how'd you get how'd you get hooked up yeah let's talk about that how'd you get hooked up with the barstool guys how'd that happen um well before barstool it was actually uh um zab jud, six-time world champion. Oh, yeah. Nice. I had, in 2020, I wasn't having a good year. Things weren't selling.
Starting point is 00:42:56 People just weren't buying stuff and spending money like they were previously. The coronavirus killed the market of, you know, buying and selling stuff. People didn't need nice clothes and stuff then. People didn't need nice clothes and stuff. People didn't care about clothes and shoes and glasses, the things I was selling. So basically things were just slow to me, and I got offered a fight. And Zab Judah, he got a hold of me, and he's like, hey, how would you like to fight? I'm starting this thing called Celebrity Championship Boxing.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think you'd go good. I want a heavy heavyweight i want to make it the main event who'd you fight who'd you fight in the first i fought a guy off a show called black ink his name is bishop don oh yeah bishop don is a bodybuilder he's like six foot five uh 270 280. never fight before i'm assuming that way your way so uh no at the time i was like i was i had i had gout i was in bed i had gout i wasn't making money oh man i'm like well how much are we talking here because i'm gonna have to get out of bed i'm gonna have to diet i'm gonna have to train and uh first he said 5 000 like, dude, I'm not getting out of bed for $5,000 and having to train. Babysitter for my son a month is about $1,200.
Starting point is 00:44:14 So then he's talking like, we're talking like 45 days away. And I'm like, dude, how am I going to get? So he came to Vegas. He said, come meet me at Resorts, the new casino. I went up there and I met him and he's like I have a contract right here fifteen thousand dollars we'll give you five grand right now give you ten grand after the fight all right I'm like how long are the rounds he's like well they're five three minute rounds I was like if we can make this thing three two minute he's like all right because I knew I had a puncher's chance.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Right. Yeah. People who don't know what that is is if you hit hard. Yeah, you just got to connect once, baby. Chinese arithmetic. We just talked about that. I don't need them all. Don't need them all.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I got rid of my gout. It wasn't easy, man. I was in the gym for hours a day and I had power lifted before. So I had been in involved in sports and, um, um, cause that's kind of the build you got, dude. You got that world's strongest man kind of a thing going on. Yeah. Well, uh, when I was power lifting, dude, I got up to 500 pound bench press and on video. And I was, I was working my arms four or five times a day. Wow. My bad four or five times a day wow my bad four or five times a week wow yeah wow sometimes it wasn't wouldn't be heaviest like one day i'd go heavy then i'd
Starting point is 00:45:33 take a break and then two days later i'm going light you go again i use supplements and i've used tons of different things to to uh repair me faster so i could go and hit that body part again. But, yeah, I fought a bodybuilder April 3rd. It was a main event. They flew me to Atlanta, and Shaq was front row, and a bunch of other celebrities went there. It was pay-per-view. I fought the full three rounds, and we fought three rounds,
Starting point is 00:46:03 two minutes a round, six minutes. And by the end of the third round, I was definitely gassed. That's a long time. People never fought. If you do five minutes of jiu-jitsu and you're not in excellent shape, you will be literally praying for death. Oh, yeah. It's exhausting. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah. After a minute, I've done probably close to 400 or 500 classes of jiu-jitsu. I trained with Team Mika, Mika Sapele, and then they changed their gym to Team Gracie. I've done so many classes, I don't know. I just know it's in between 400 and 500. Every time I go to get back into jiu-jitsu, my lungs just catch on fire.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Did you win the fight? Oh, so the fight, I lost the decision. I felt like it was a draw. I felt like I didn't lose it. It was probably a draw. Is that your first time fighting? Yeah. Like legit boxing?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Legit boxing, yeah. I've been in fights before. From Lansing, Michigan, right? Yeah. Did you fight as a kid? Or are you just somebody looking for fights? Of course, man. Been to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Oh, I know. We grew up in a place where there was nothing to do. And I was a big kid. I was always getting picked on because I was the bigger guy. So, yeah, I was always fighting. My dad would always bully me. So he was the type of guy that he always told me, if they hit you first you can
Starting point is 00:47:25 defend yourself do whatever you want but i always hit first i just go home and say he hit me first that was my dad's rule he goes you're under an obligation to get hit first yeah yeah because if you feel legitimately threatened you can go ahead and be the first person because somebody's legitimately threatening you yeah you're under no obligation to get hit you go right to it make it happen that's true. So you fought that to a draw. So how did you get into it? So is that the only fight so far?
Starting point is 00:47:52 That's the only fight that I've had on TV. But you have Ruff and Rowdy coming up now. I do have Ruff and Rowdy. December 10th and Charleston, West Virginia. Charleston. So did Barr still reach to you after that first fight, or how'd that work out? I don't know how how
Starting point is 00:48:06 they reached out. I don't know how we got a hold of each other. We just started talking. DM Portnoy or something? I don't remember, man. So many people I talked to about different matches and stuff like that. I was supposed to do something with a jiu-jitsu thing coming up.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I got a lot of things that are planned in the next year. Well, good, dude. You still slapping people? Yeah, so that's the thing. I do want to start doing slap shows where. Like the Russian thing. It's like a contest. Well, you can go again.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Like the full Russian deal. Like the whole Russian idea where you can go to each other's. Oh, so, yeah, with the Russians, they actually came to America last year. Dude. During Corona time. And we did a show. I did a show with them. Why am I just.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Dude, I'm totally picturing like Ivan Drago. Oh, yeah. Is what I'm getting. Like the whole thing. They had. They brought one of their guys in to battle me. Uh-huh. And I slapped slapped the out of
Starting point is 00:49:06 them and then after i slapped him the guy went back his buddy caught him and then they gave him oxygen brought him back and i'm like damn this cold space is just like there's no coming back then the guy slapped me and i slapped him again and then it went three rounds and then he he slapped me back and the third time I slapped him, he went out. He was a tough dude, man. They had mouthpieces and everything for this event. So do you hit like – Where do you hit when you slap somebody?
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah, that's a strategy. Well, there's got to be a rule, right, at that point? Well, yeah, you're not supposed to actually hit with the palm, but sometimes what happens is your hand's so big. You're talking with in these competitions these guys have three four xl hands so so sometimes your hand's so big just throwing a slap you're gonna wind up landing your palm is gonna be on their face supposed to be fingers only like some guys just use fingers but anytime i've ever been slapped like when i got slapped in that
Starting point is 00:50:03 uh russian slap competition they used a full hand on me whoa when i got slapped in that uh russian slap competition they used the full hand on me whoa i got my bell ring man that guy uh he missed my face and he hit me in my ear oh that's gotta be the worst club he hit me in my ear and my i i shook my head like this and my buddy was in the crowd and i looked at him and i'm like yeah sign now motherfucker yeah yeah how do you work yourself up to getting slapped right like i honestly could not be i hate fighting yeah for you for you colt just come on five minutes late yeah like to work yourself up to get slapped like honestly like are you do you kind of freak out before or are you somebody that's like whatever so so uh i think everybody should actually go through this feeling in life because
Starting point is 00:50:50 sometimes it's gr it feels great sometimes you just will never do it again like the guy fought in atlanta they want to rematch it and they offered him they offered him to do a rematch and he you know he he turned it down so me i'm continuing fighting i like the way it feels i like the crowd i like the vibe of it but before your match you just uh you get kind of scared like a scary feeling in your in your like sick your stomach where you want you want to get out of there yeah you got to hype yourself up and you're like too far you got i look at my opponents like they did something wrong to me or my family. So I have a reason to hurt them because I'm not an actually aggressive person.
Starting point is 00:51:30 But think about it, man. There's no other sport anywhere where you just stand there and take it. There's no blocking. You're not defending yourself. I think I'd rather box than be in a slap. Because you're protecting yourself. There's defense in boxing. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:51:47 I don't know. At least in football you can block on punts or something. Yeah. It's fun. You know, it's... I don't know. I'm creating this thing. It's basically like, instead of boxing,
Starting point is 00:52:04 you use your hands and you just slap each other. It's basically like instead of boxing, you use your hands, and you just slap each other. It's like a slap fight. Yeah, it's a slap fight. Like drunk people do, but real people. Okay, this is reminding me of every fist fight you probably have ever had. This is what this is reminding me of in a quick and easy way. I was on Worldstar once.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Do you watch a lot of street fight videos? You know, I used to watch the Kimbo Slice fights back oh yeah so everybody watches those were okay because those guys are okay but those guys were actually like okay they were decent okay good fight yeah when you watch i talk about like drunken raiders fans is that we're talking about percent of men that i've watched fight have the worst technique it's this oh yeah yeah ugly no i've been in i've been in three fights and they've landed in three punches, like, luckily. Because people are like, and they just go down. But, no, I could not.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Most people don't want to fight. That's why it's attractive to watch slap fighting or boxing or MMA. It's because deep down that is a primal fear in all humans. And unless you're a true psychopath, you are scared shitless before you go into the ring. I don't care who you are. Even Mike Tyson did that thing. We talked about that speech where he goes, and then I get to that point. I have to hype myself up. Maybe the Diaz's, I think
Starting point is 00:53:14 they might just actually be really looking forward to it. Other than those two human beings. I think everybody else has got something to add. The Diaz brothers look like they're into it when they go in there. They want to get it. I don't know how much. I'm sitting here thinking, how much would I take to let you slap me? And I'm telling you, you threw a million bucks cash,
Starting point is 00:53:32 I probably would walk away from that. Call me once. I'd do it for a million. I don't think I would. A million. I really don't. I really don't. Okay, if I put 20 grand right here, you wouldn't let him slap me?
Starting point is 00:53:41 No. If you threw a million. I don't think you'd let – honestly. No, it's not worth the brain damage. What is the most you've ever paid anybody to slap them? What's the most you've ever paid? I think 100 bucks is going to work. There are way different varying opinions of what people will do for money.
Starting point is 00:54:00 That's it. 100 bucks? Can you give me these guys' numbers? I got a lot of work I need done around the house. I'll give you $3. Because if somebody will let you slap them for $100, they will pretty much do anything. There's just nothing
Starting point is 00:54:15 they won't do. Well, and I think that's why you get like, God, how much will you pay these guys to kill somebody? I mean, maybe $200? I don't know. $200? Yeah, counselors counselor's like, okay, we're not discussing this. Did I ever tell you that story that I was talking to this Irish friend of mine in the Czech Republic after we paid off the police? And he goes, Chris, you can tell a lot about a country by how much it takes to have somebody killed there. Like in Switzerland, it's a million dollars, plus the bullet in Ireland, it's a pack of cigarettes and $10,000.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It's just, you know, life is meaningless in some places. $100? I was expecting that at least like two or three thousand i had a guy after my video went viral with logan and after probably about two months of just going viral with podcasts and him slapping me and just doing all this stuff he contacted me he said i'm an influencer i want you to come to my house and i want you to slap me as hard as you can i'm'm like, who is this guy? I got to look this guy up. I looked him up. He was an influencer. He is 250,000 followers at the time. It went back and forth for like three months. I was supposed to meet this guy. I never thought
Starting point is 00:55:16 it was going to happen. So I knew based on what this guy looked like, he had like a street look to him with a bunch of tattoos on his face uh he was hanging out with strippers all the time wait was this kind of a skinny black dude and there was two strippers there when you actually got to smacking him yeah but he wasn't black everybody just thought he wasn't and he hit his head on the wall yeah but i saw this everybody thought he was a black guy because he he had tattoos from head to toe oh guys even has his eyeballs tattooed oh my god and he's like uh that was the one that this is the video that Snoop Dogg shared and all the fighters and everything.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah. And I get to his house. Keep in mind, I don't know this guy. I'm going in there and I'm looking around. He's like, what's up, man? He's the nicest guy. I'm like, what's up? I was like, why do you want me to slap you?
Starting point is 00:56:00 He goes, I just want to go viral. Oh, he went viral. He goes, I don't want no money. He goes, I don't want nothing. I just want to go viral oh he's like oh he went by he goes he goes i don't want no money because i don't want nothing i just want you to tag me in the video and i'm like all right so he's close to the wall it took about an hour to set the room up oh my god because i knew this video was going to go viral and i'm telling him like this is it's going to go it's going to get a lot of views he keeps asking me he's like is it going to go viral i've told him like 10 times it is it might take a couple months but it will go viral and uh i told him like stand away from the wall dude you gotta pull you this
Starting point is 00:56:32 way because if you fall back you're gonna hit your head on the wall and i'm trying to tell him you know he's got the strippers there like you can take it baby but you gotta see if you haven't seen this you gotta see it this john can you this oh no i want i want to see this you've got no no we'll pull it if you haven't seen it yeah dude google my man slap for cash because this video itself okay forget the dude getting shadow roamed the result the reaction of the of of the day shift strippers these are probably people you work with the reaction of the day shift strippers. These are probably people you work with, Colt. The reaction of the day shift strippers is the best part of the whole video because they thought you killed him.
Starting point is 00:57:10 They really thought he was gone. This guy is just one of them dudes. He doesn't care. Oh, man, I don't even know how to explain him. Like I said, tattoos head to toe, about six feet two. You walk in there. So the girls are amping him up even harder. And I'm just looking at everyone in the room like, what is wrong with these people?
Starting point is 00:57:34 And they're like, you can do it, baby. And they're like, well, you tell him he can do it. And I'm like, all right. I was like, are you sure you want to do this, bro? Because you're a nice guy. It just makes it worse. This is not going to end well. I already know where this is going.'s like yeah do it bro i could do it and i'm like all right well check it out i'm only going to hit you like half speed because you're a small dude he's like i want you to he looks at me and he like grabs on him he's like i want you to hit
Starting point is 00:57:58 me as hard as you can he starts gritting his teeth together and i'm like what i'm like fuck it let's do it hey the thing people do for santa claus i'll deliver this no problem yeah he he actually somewhat got hurt you know because he i guess because of the wall or something i don't know but well his face was bleeding he at the wall yeah yeah and then his strippers are like yeah uh baby baby baby oh my gosh oh my god wake up wake up yeah so the strippers were highly confident that uh he was he was just gonna like take it take it and laugh at me and i was just looking at the strippers like what is wrong with you well after he got slapped i think the word for that is meth is what i'm gonna go with for that video it might have been but i'll tell you
Starting point is 00:58:42 what after that video them strippers they lost, but I'll tell you what, after that video, them strippers, they lost all confidence because they were down on the floor, then they were looking up at me, and they were down on the floor looking up at me, and I'm like, I told you, you wanted this. You may need to find yourself a new pimp. Yeah. I told you.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I am just dumbfounded. Again, I'm so naive, right? They didn't tell me that you were coming in or anything. So they tell me, oh, yeah, he slaps. And I'm expecting like some of those like 6'2", 210, right? And I'm like, yeah, maybe a million bucks that somebody slapped me. Looking at you, I'm just dumbfounded. I'm literally dumbfounded.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Like, how are people letting you do this for $100 or just to go? Or no, that's the most he's paid somebody. For less. There's less. That's the ceiling. That's the top. That's what I'm trying to say. This is why I am dumbfounded.
Starting point is 00:59:32 There's less here. The floor was zero. Get on YouTube and watch this. Chris Connell is sitting next to him and is a very large man. Chris Connell would look like a D-end in football, and he makes you look very small. Chris Connell looks look like a D-end in football and he makes you look very small. Chris Connell looks like a puppet sitting next to him.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Like he's a ventriloquist. Someone came in here with a million bucks right now. God, man. I have to go get so drunk that I'm about to black out and make bad decisions. I could talk about this all day long, but we've got to wrap it up. I'm excited to see your fight at Rough and Roundy.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah. I hope you- One night is it. What about the- So we're talking about hustles though. I don't want to get away from that. No, what?
Starting point is 01:00:12 Slap for Cash has made himself a little bit of a name in the groups you were talking about too. Oh, with the crypto stuff. Yeah, and it touched kind of that, right? That might be-
Starting point is 01:00:19 How'd they reach out to you? Why don't you get involved in that crypto world real quick if you've got a- Yeah, no, go ahead. Well, yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:24 keep going. Well, I have found out in life that the people i used to pick on in school are actually the ones making millions amen brother i'm like hey man i'm sorry about putting you in that locker can you give me some tips on what's going on yeah what should i buy no you're gonna tell me yeah definitely um man um i don't know i guess just doing all these videos and being uh getting in good with certain people and people just just kind of giving me heads up on stuff like hey i'm doing this you want to research it let me know
Starting point is 01:01:01 no one's forced me into anything or try to miss noad me. No, but I can tell you it's the same thing, man, is when you hit a certain point with social media, and there's two reasons to do it, man. I think there's two reasons. There's a vanity metrics where you're like, oh, look at my flex and I'm verified and I have so many followers and I have all this stuff. But then there's the reality of that, which is it does bring a certain level of credibility, which just opens some financial doors for you and people bring you people bring you deals um it's funny man we were at uh we were at hopper house on saturday night for octoberfest colt showed up dressed like the notre dame mascot that was not later hosen i don't know where you got that outfit but it was green i've never seen october i was a sexy october fest costume anyway but like the b some bmx dude was uh
Starting point is 01:01:47 a nice dude uh ricardo laguna i think his name is uh was tapping the keg that night and he rode by me on his bike and jokingly grabbed my beer and took a sip of it and tried to hand it back to me i was like no no you can have that you can have that when i'm good no but he was super cool and uh and came over brought me another beer or whatever. And I didn't care, man, but it was funny. And he brought me another beer, and I took a picture, and I tagged him in the photo, and he ran away. And inside of like 10 seconds later, he came running back over to me like,
Starting point is 01:02:16 who are you, man? What's going on? And I got this land up in the east side, and I want to subdivide it, build four houses. And I'm like, all right, man, I got some builders. We can talk about this. This is all good. We can definitely talk about it. So I think it just brings some opportunity that you normally wouldn't have gotten. I know it's opened doors for me.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Obviously, it's opened doors for you. And I think that's awesome. So, man, I am looking forward again, like I said, to seeing your fight. I'm totally watching it. We may take a road trip. I don't know. Who knows? Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 01:02:41 What night is it? December 10th. December 10th. You know what? Company Christmas party. Already playing. We? December 10th. December 10th. You know what? Company Christmas party. Already playing. We'll be at Tao. Company Christmas party.
Starting point is 01:02:49 But if it wasn't, my man, I'm telling you right now, if it was not my company Christmas party, I would probably come out to West Virginia to watch the fight. Yeah, it's my first time going out to West Virginia. I feel like you could slap people for 20 bucks there. I feel like you'd slap people for less. For a lot less. For less. I feel like a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:05 people are gonna be getting slapped you're just gonna line them up down the wall and run down my chair like you're real good that's what you do take a carton of cigarettes and a case of four loco and you'll be able to slap as many people as you want just line them up and smack them my opponent he's uh six foot six 470 pounds he's uh he's a giant he works in the coal mine and uh this is just what they've told me what do you what do you think about this we're gonna call this the battle of the 400 pounders and i'm like i was like man i don't care who you got over there you know because i i've seen all their uh rough and rowdy people yeah i'm like i'm not don't care who you got over there. Because I've seen all their rough and rowdy people.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I'm like, I'm not worried about any of your guys over there. I was like, what do you guys even do over there in West Virginia? Who knows? I mean, Cole and Cousins. Yeah, Cousins. Okay, look, you can't say that. We might have some listeners in West Virginia. Now you've insulted them, Cole.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Now they're going to unsubscribe right now because of what you just did. Or they're going, oh, maybe. I don't know. That's what it is. Yeah, man. Anyway, well, dude, thanks so much for coming on, bro. It was a pleasure to have you. Anytime you want to come back, you let us know, man.
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