Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - EP 179: Mastering Prompts With An OpenAI Ambassador - The One Secret Skill Revealed

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

There's one secret skill for more effective prompting! It's a skill set that we all have but not recognized as something you can use toward prompts. Even better, we have an OpenAI Ambassador here to help talk about prompting and how to do it effectively. Abran Maldonado joins us to discuss what that secret skill is and how you can use it for better results. Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion: Ask Jordan and Abran questions on promptingUpcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: [e-mail] with Jordan on LinkedInTimestamps:01:55 Daily AI news04:35 About Abran and being an OpenAI Ambassador08:01 Access to future models, testing, providing use cases.11:10 Engineers from diverse locations think quickly.16:31 Proficiency with AI tools and Excel important20:46 Elon Musk invented Neuralink for brain communication.26:26 Imposter syndrome, calm down, noncoder perspective.30:04 Excited for early access to custom GPTs.30:51 Limiting Internet searching could impact ad revenue.35:35 New technology levels the playing field.Topics Covered in This Episode:1. Abran's role and involvement with OpenAI2. Secret Skill for Effective Prompting3. AI and Communication SkillsKeywords:Custom GPTs, Generative Pre-trained Transformers, personalized learning, department-specific GPTs, AI technology, practical advice, careers, AI news, Siri, Google Bard, OpenAI, AI ambassador, Create Labs Ventures, pandemic, prompt engineering, communication skills, prompt guidance, feedback, AI art, prompt engineering, GPT store, user feedback, Chat GPT, job seekers, AI-related skills, intent understanding, communication assistance, communication challenges, communication styles, AI communication bridgeSend Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Start Here ▶️Not sure where to start when it comes to AI? Start with our Start Here Series. You can listen to the first drop -- Episode 691 -- or get free access to our Inner Cricle community and all episodes: StartHereSeries.com Also, here's a link to the entire series on a Spotify playlist. 

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And it's not what you think. It's not finding someone else's prompt and copying and pacing it into your chat GPT for the best outputs. That's not what it is. It's a skill set that we all have. But I think so few of us actually know that it applies to better prompting and getting better results out of chat GPT. all large language models. So we're going to be talking about that today and more on Everyday AI. Welcome. My name is Jordan Wilson. I am your host of Everyday AI. And this is your daily live stream podcast and free daily newsletter helping everyday people learn and leverage generative

AI to grow their companies and grow their careers. So if you're new here, thank you for joining us. If you're listening on the podcast, make sure to check your show notes. There's related episodes, a lot of other resources as always, as well as a link. to come back and watch this, watch the live, ask questions too. So today is one of those days. I'm going to tell our live audience multiple times, you're going to want to get your questions in because we are talking with an open AI ambassador about more effective prompting. I mean, how else can you get access like this? Like you can't. All right. So we're going to get into that in just a second. But before we do, let's start the show as we always do by going over the

AI news. And as a reminder, go to your everyday AI.com to sign up for the newsletter. We're we're going to be recapping these news stories and more in like 170 plus episodes that you can listen to on the website as well as all of our former newsletters. So our first story, well, there's a lot of big companies that are maybe getting a little smarter. So Siri might be getting a little smarter. A leak from a blogger online, kind of with a mixed track record, claims that Apple will announce a new generative AI capability for Siri at this year's WWWDC development. corporate conference. So which would lead to a more, which would be more consistent with reports and can potentially lead to subscription services for the feature. So Apple may use this year's WWC to unveil generative capabilities for Siri. Finally, my gosh, if you guys talk to Siri now, you're like,

why isn't this thing smarter? And it's going to add more personalization and natural conversation to the virtual assistant. So this rumor aligns with previous reports of Apple working on a chat, GPT like generative AI project since 2022, with plans to launch some features this year. Also, could be good news for Apple because they're about to get leapfrogged by Microsoft in terms of valuation for the first time in two years. All right. Speaking of assistance, maybe getting smarter, is Google Bard finally there? Yes, I'm always hard on Google Bard because I think they really fumbled Gemini.

Pretty bad. But Google is reportedly developing a paid upgrade to Bard called Bard Advance, based on their more powerful language model called Gemini Ultra. So this upgrade will offer advanced math and reasoning skills and may be available through a paid Google One subscription. So some leaks on Twitter. Again, a lot of leaks this morning. We got some drippy faucets.

But some leaks are showing some reported new features called power-ups, gallery, tasks, sharing, and then something called Motoko, which is, I believe, the custom GBT equivalent of GPs. Which, speaking of GPD, man, all of our. Our news just rolls into each other today. Open AI announced literally right after the show yesterday. Their GPT store is launching next week. So we've talked about this many times, many times before, but a couple of new details from yesterday. So OpenAI's GPT store will allow users to create and monetize customized version of chat GPT style chat bots using their GPT4 large language model.

So it was originally supposed to launch in November, but it was delayed due to some changes. You know, I don't know if you followed along, but there's some, some, some, a little bit of drama going on in open AI in November with Sam Altman being fired and then being rehired. So the store I think is going to literally revolutionize, not just the AI industry, but personally, I think this is going to be as big or bigger than the iOS store. So yes, that big, the app store. All right. So so much news, but that's not why y'all join today. You guys probably joined because you want to know, what is that one secret skill for more effective prompting. And it's not just going to be me talking today. I've got a guest that I'm extremely

excited to bring on the show right now. So, hey, live audience, please help me. Welcome to the show. Oh, let's get him. Let's get him on there. There we go. All right. Abron Maldonado is an open AI ambassador and the co-founder of Create Labs Ventures. Abron, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks, Jordan. Really appreciate it. You know, it's morning over here, but it's good to get a start like this to get excited and carry that through the day. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to everybody else. I know about my job, but I hit the ground running and didn't feel like a holiday, but that's a good sign when you want to get a lot of things done and you want to get business done. When business is calling, like to get the holiday, let's get this done. And it, you know, it speaks to the energy

of 24. I love it. You know, new years, new skills, right? I think if, I'll say this, I talk about generative AI every single day, and it's still on the top of my list on things that I want to improve on. So I think today's episode is going to be a great one, especially if you're a newbie. So before we get into that secret skill, Brown, can you tell everyone a little bit about what it is that you do? Like, what is an open AI ambassador? Sure. So just a set to stage in history, you know, it's all about timing. There was no specific skill set that we needed.

maybe there was. I don't know. So back in 2020, you remember what 2020 was, right? It was the pandemic for everybody. We were all just home trying to figure out our next move. Right. And at the time, I was doing a lot of social impact work in the city, across the country, in inner cities with underserved communities, trying to give them access to cutting edge technologies. So I was doing events, bringing AR, VR, VR, drones, robotics, AI to, you know, underserved communities. that never saw any of this technology in person or touched it live in person. They only saw it on TV. And it was very gratifying. But the pandemic hit shut down all of those events. Right. So I'm back in my garage trying to figure out what the next move is, but still trying to do some R&D to figure out what are the technologies that are out there that are being developed. And I came across the papers for GPT2 when they deemed it was too unsafe for the public. I was like, oh, okay, this is interesting. Let me see where this leads and then I learned about the private beta of GPT3. Now this is three years before

Chad GPT. So this is dating back when no one cared about it. And not many people had access. Less than a thousand people across the world had access to the original private data. And, you know, it was something that I felt excited about and wanted to be a part of just from always thinking of like the social impact use case. And then I saw a DM in my, on my Twitter inbox. And it was from Greg. It was from Greg Brockman and said, you know, shoot me your email. I want to give you access to this private beta. And so I didn't know what that meant, but now we know, right? You know, fast forward to what that meant for me. But once they started to see what I was doing with the technology, they tapped me on the shoulder and they're like, hey, look,

We want you to be an ambassador. You know, we'll bring you in in the inner circle and give you access to these tools, to the future models that aren't out yet that we're going to release. We would love for you to test them out and demo and give us some business use cases, give us some social impact use cases. That's your lane. Let us know what you think about this and your unique perspective around this model, right, before we give it to the rest of the world.

And that also requires, like, office hours. So you could find me on the open eye website and you go to like forward slash ambassadors and you put time with me and the other ambassadors to just learn more about these models how to use them. So I've spoken to hundreds of thousands of people around the world on their first experience with opening eye tools. And they come to me and say, how do I use this, right? And scientists, expert engineers, professors, senior citizens, people as old in the 80s, like how do I use this? How do I, you know, spend time with this to show other seniors who are lonely, how to use these tools. Just had a conversation yesterday.

Shout out to Maria. Like there, there's so many interesting use cases. And that's kind of molded how I perceive this technology for myself. And just hearing, you know, this scope from the world of like all the different ways you can use this makes me think a bit more diverse and more collective about, you know, this technology. So many things I want to unpack there, right? Like, Abron, I love that you are from the beginning looking to use AI for good. I think so many people, especially when they don't know or understand AI, they just think it's a bad thing.

So I love that background, helping seniors, all of those things really amazing. But I actually want to get to the heart of the show. And today we're just going to skip to the end. I'm not going to keep dragging you on any longer. But, Abron, what is that one secret skill for more effective prompting? And spoiler alert, it's not using someone else's. prompts, but what is that one skill? It's 100% communication. Communication skills. Knowing how to talk to people is exactly how you talk

to a machine. And, you know, they're not, you know, can't believe, like communication skills are something that we struggle with, you know, as humans and everyone born with that skill set, is a skill set that needs to be refined. But for those that have that skill set, that felt like, oh, I'm on the outside looking in because I pursued a different career other than technology. Now was your moment. Now was your opportunity to jump in. And I think that that's one of the most misunderstood things about large language models, but especially chat GPT.

That's what I've used the longest. You know, our team's been using it not since GPT2, but you know, GPT3. But it seems like people think like, oh, I'm not a technical person. I'm not a developer. So, you know, this whole, they think of a large language model or open AI, chat, EBT, like coding, but it's not like that. It's talking like a human. You know, Abron, with all the talks that you've done to people and teaching people,

what is the most misunderstood thing when it comes to prompting? So in these early ambassador calls, I would meet with an engineer from, you know, India or even Israel somewhere not in New Jersey where I'm at. And they would, they think fast. Like engineers think, they're brilliant thinkers, but their minds are moving so fast. And they think in code. And they think in commands and like, you know, branches.

So they're like, what's the command? What's the keystroke to get this output? Right. And I'm like, well, show me what you put. And they're like, you know, give me this. Right. Or like, enter that. Right.

Just one word or two words. And I'm like, where's your prompt? And they're like, that's it. That's the prompts. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. Just back up. You have to talk to the machine. Right.

What do you mean? Tell me what you want to do. Well, you know, I have this business and I wanted to generate this. And, you know, when people enter this, this needs to be the output. I'm like, that's exactly what you tell the machine. I'm like, turn around and just explain your problem and explain. and explain your use case and explain your ideal scenario for the output to the machine. And it's a people pleaser.

It's going to learn your pattern. It's going to learn your tendencies. And it's going to want to match what you expect of it, your desire. And if it gets it wrong, you just reinforce with a little bit more feedback. And you say, okay, well, you're close. I love having this conversation with teachers. When I go to education conferences, I just did one on Monday, Tuesday. and they're experts at prompt engineering already because they're educating young people

and reinforcing them with feedback and they don't realize that that's the same skill set that you use for prompt engineering. This is what we're going to learn today. When I give you this, you give me this in return. Let's do it together, right? So it's like a shared, guided, independent model. Let's do it together. I'm going to show you how to do it.

let's let you try it a little bit while I give you some feedback and reinforcement. And then at some point, you're going to do it on your own. That is in a nutshell, prompt engineer. Oh, so you're saying I shouldn't just be buying, you know, someone's prompt book for $100 with $10,000 best prompts. So that's not the way to get it done is what you're saying? I mean, you could because sometimes when I look at those prompts, you know, I'm like, okay, well, what can I take from this, but then flip it to my use case.

Right. Like what are the elements in here that maybe I didn't think of. So I do that a lot with AI art prompts. So I'm an AI artist and, you know, I've done magazine covers. We actually did the first AI art magazine cover for Entrepreneur Magazine. Oh, I saw that one. That was amazing. No, that was a lot of fun. Shout out to Matt Sinclair on my team who led the creative direction. But sometimes when I look at other prompts from a from a art perspective, I'm like, oh, they mentioned like the lot of lighting. I didn't mention the lightning in my prompt. I'm like, let me add that. Or like they mentioned like shutter speed or, you know, a certain camera. Like they'll mention like a LACA camera. I'm like, oh, I didn't even think. Like this thing knows camera models. Like, let me throw that in, you know, because that'll be

that one nugget that just gives it a little different feel. Or the last one was just like hyperreal, like just like a straight up photo, but they put style raw. I'm like, ah, okay, if you don't want the AI filter, just tell it, just give me the raw unfiltered, you know, version. So that you can always learn from other people's prompts and we all look at each other's prompts, but sometimes your prompts are, that's, that's yours. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes you don't want to share your prompt that I'm, I'm in that camp. Yeah, same. For me, if I'm being honest, early on, I tried other people's prompts and I found that prompting, at least in my opinion, is not a shortcut. It's an essential skill that you have to build. So my hot take is, man,

if you're just using someone else's prompts, all you're doing is you are robbing yourself of the opportunity to properly learn the most important skill set moving forward because, hey, whether you are using chat GPT or not, it's like think of Microsoft 365 co-pilot. Prompting is coming to your operating system. So you have to become better at it. Like what's, What's your thoughts on that, Abron? Just like prompting as an essential skill and even just, again, the heightens of communication in that. At least at the basic level, not everyone has to be an expert prompter. But I think the same way, something that I explain to a lot of folks is that your resume, right, before you get replaced by AI, you're going to be replaced by those who are augmenting their productivity with AI.

And remember in that section on your resume, that little section where you said, oh, I know Microsoft Office and I know PowerPoint and I know Excel. I know Photoshop. Like that section is going to be replaced with I know Chatsbyt. I know Mid Journey. I know Adobe Firefly. I know Tomey how to make an AI presentation. I use Canva. Like all that, they're going to want to know what AI tools you're comfortable with and you're fluent in.

And how could you use those skills? here to be more productive at our company. And yeah, well, there's, I mean, we all use Excel, but we're not the Excel experts that every company has. Like, there's going to be different levels and there's going to be a spectrum of proficiency with mid-journey, proficiency with prompt engineering and with chatubit, you know, but they're going to want to know, do you at least have a baseline understanding of this tool? So that way, if I give you a project, that's likely going to require you creating, you know, spreadsheets at a high level of output with Chad GBT or with one of these tools, you got to be ready for it. You know, and that's the thing. For those of you who

are still holding off, I'm like, at some point, it's going to become a baseline skill set. Yeah. I'd argue, hey, and maybe this is abroad just because I'm talking about it every day. I argue it's already like a required skill set, right? Like this is, if you, If you look at studies on job postings and the economy and the market and everything like that, this is the most in-demand skill that there is right now in terms of supply versus demand. More and more companies are needing people, you know, whether you are in with the term prompt engineering or not. But it is a high in-demand skill right now.

What's the one thing, Abron, that you think? Because not everyone's a great communicator, right? Like I'd like to think I am. I have a master's degree in journalism. So I'd like to think I'm an okay communicator, but sometimes I'm not. But maybe what are some tips that you have for people, specifically when it comes to using communication as that secret prompting skill? What's some tips that you have for people that maybe aren't the best communicators?

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Sometimes you just need to talk to, you know, a voice model and say, all right, well, here's what I want. And you just describe it in your own style. The best thing for me, with my own struggle with communication skills, is chat TBT understands my intent. So I don't have to be dramatically correct. You don't have to say something verbatim and trigger or awake word like with Siri. We're like, oh, I said that wrong.

I got to say it again. Or I said this wrong to Alexa, I got to say it again. I could spell things incorrectly. I could just say things in a short form. And chat Chbittee is like, I get it. Like it puts his hand up. It's like, I get what you're trying to say. Like this is kind of messy, but I can see through this mess what you really want out of this.

And if it's easier, you just talk to it. You know, you set the voice function on and you just have a conversation with. I did this clip I wish I had it here there was this woman laying in bed and she was trying to understand currency right US currency and like global currency and the way she asked chat to bt you were like what it was like four-year-olds trying to understand currency and and chagipti figured it out they're like I know what you want you're you're trying to understand how a currency of like a million pesos translates to one dollar in the u.s here's how that works right but the way she asked a question would have broke your brain. And I think we all need to be comfortable with so many

neurodivergent learners, with so many people with, with different skill sets and different abilities from an accessibility standpoint, verbal language, you know, and typing. To be honest, as crazy as this guy is, and I'm not his biggest fan with Elon Musk, I saw on one of his podcast, I think was the Rogan one. The reason he invented NeurLink, the BSI, the brain chip interface is because, and if you ever see him in an interview, when he gets asked a question, he pauses for like 10 seconds to process and then he responds, right? And then he said, the reason he invented this chip is that how he thinks about an output, the loss between that going to his thumbs to text something, or to his fingers to type something, something gets lost

in the communication and the translation from how his brain is thinking about it to how his fingers is processing it, right? The dexterity to try and keep up with his brain. So he just wanted something where you can communicate right from the source. That's why he came up with the brain chip. That happens in different spectrum, different variations to a lot of people where like, you know what you want to say and it's up here, but you can't just get it out, right? Maybe you can get it out speaking, but you can't get it out writing. Maybe you can get out writing, but you can't get it out speaking, right? And this is just an assistant. Like, just think of as an assistant like wherever you're lacking it can pick up the slack and supplement where you feel like

you need the most help and i don't know how they programmed that into gpt4 but it understands your intent right and then the intent is there and it's like okay now that i know is this what you meant and you say yes that's exactly what i meant okay so we're going to go with this prompts based on what you what i felt you meant that you're verifying and let's take it from there sorry for the long-winded answer no that needed to be said i mean like like like brian is saying here There's such great insights. Ben saying already one of the best everyday AI shows ever, which I agree, FYI. So I always tell people because, yeah, we teach thousands of people prompting. I say talk to it like a human. People are confused. They're like, no, you have to speak to it in code.

And it's like, no, you don't. You're right. But I like to tell people, and if you're like me, even still, hearing things from a Brown right now and being like, oh, wow, that's, that's, I never thought of, you know, prompting like that. I like to say that when you start a new chat inside of chat, GPT, it has the capacity of like the floor in the ceiling. And it's your communication skills that are going to dictate where your outputs are going to go. So, Abron, you said something there that I've never thought of, like teachers being great prompters because they're constantly having to explain something to young students that are still developing their communication skills. What other maybe, you know, types of jobs or what other, you know, kind of skills related to communication can ultimately really help like that in the long run getting better results?

So I say this a lot on stage, but I just saw it echoed yesterday in a tweet by Blake Lemoyne. And for those of you who don't know who that is, he's the one that was kind of like the whistleblower at Google around like his AI sentient. Right. So he's kind of a quirky guy on Twitter. Not always a fan of his tweets, but the one thing he did get that was on target with, you know, something that I say on stage was English is the new programming language. And, you know, those who were worried that they didn't know in coding language and were on the outside looking in, now is your moment. And for those of you who were middle career, maybe, you know, already, you know, a professional. in the humanities or you know you're a social worker or you're an English major. Shout out to all the English majors. There we go. They're like, I don't want to learn Python. I don't want to learn JavaScript because I don't, just to get that bag in the tech industry.

Like I did so much with my English career, with my English major, doing work in the humanities or doing work in communication. I don't really want to reskill all that and give up all that to join this tech boom. You don't have to. Like those who studied the humanities that studied in communication skills that were English majors, now is your moment because you are that missing piece in the future of prompt engineering. So educators are a great example of that because they're constantly, like you said, they're constantly having to teach a concept and reinforce a concept and give feedback to a particular concept to a young learner.

Every language model is a young learner because they're learning your, concept from scratch, your intent, the instructions that you're providing it. And it has great potential, just like all those students, right, has great potential to deliver at an expert level, but it's not going to get there until you give it, you know, the initial instructions. So authors, you know, the lead prompt engineer on my team was a TV writer. The ambassadors, The other ambassadors, and I call it the AI Avengers because they look around. I'm like, you're all of such a quirky bunch. They're painters, their producers, their poets.

I kid you not. Shout out to Merz Mench, you know, Vlad, he's Mersmensch on Twitter and on Medium. He's an amazing writer, but he's a poet. And every time a new model comes out with opening eye, the first he tests, is how good is it at writing poetry? and he's an artist as well. And these are all the other expert prompt engineers that I came up with in the face. And I'm like, y'all aren't the same Silicon Valley nerds

that I was expecting in this room. So you're making my imposter syndrome kind of like calm down because I live in this imposter syndrome space because at this point, and now it's like an inside joke. It's like I refuse to code just to see how long it's going to take for this technology to reach me as a, non-coder before I have to give in and finally take that Coursera course on

JavaScript. You know, like everyone's like, hey, you should at least learn something. I'm like, nope. I'm over here hanging out as a non-coder and seeing how, you know, how interesting, you know, how creative I can get with this technology as a no-coder. And so far, so good. Oh, man. It's so good.

I love people are already taking, taking your taglines here, you know, loving the AI Avengers. Every language model is a young learner. Abron's just spitting out like chat GPT quotes that you should put on your wall if you want to get better, right? So I would be kicking myself, Abron, if I didn't ask you quickly about the GPT store, right? So, so yes, you just got all, if like if you're listening to this, you just got like an advanced level education on effective prompting with communication. But with these new GPTs, you know, which have been out for now about two months. and the GPT store.

How was this going to change how the everyday person does business? Y'all heard my hot take. I said, I think eventually this is going to be bigger than the iOS Apple App Store. What's your thoughts on how this is going to change how work gets done? A lot of ways. And I don't know how far out I want to make these kind of predictions. Oh, bring them, bring them. We're here for it.

Yeah, no. So I was there. You see the shirt, right? I was at Dev Day with Sam Adi. announcement of the store and you know the GPTs and somethings he said on stage we're kind of like reeled back but like right well we announced it and that that's that's something that I don't like across the entire tech ecosystem that I appreciated more with opening eye they're like as a starter founder someone told me like um don't wait for 100% for something that you could put out

80% today. Right. And that's so true for the perfectionist in all of us to like not put out something that we just keep refining and refining because we feel like, it's not ready. It's not ready yet. Who cares? If it's a concept that you think that people will respond to, half baked and all, just put it out there. Right. And because you're going to get a lot of feedback from users on how to further refine that. You're not the only one to contain. Open AI did that with every model. They're just like, look, we're making this thing. It's not all the way there. But here you go. Try it out. Right. And then we hear a tweet, oh, you know, is it the end for chat TBT? Because this new thing came out, right? Like Elon Musk came out with something or Apple's going to come out with

something. And I'm like, where is it? Let us try it. You keep putting out these press releases of announcements of its coming. But let us determine. And like you're not the one to determine, is it better than chat? Let us determine. Give it to us. Put it in our hands. Right. So I have friends

to send me all these robots. I'm like, I don't care about these robots. Until I can get a robot in beta form that I can test out in my house, it's all still science fiction to make. Right?

Until we can all test out these robots in our house, it's all still science fiction. It's just an announcement. So when I saw the announcement of the store, I'm like, awesome, when can we get access? And they're like, oh, they gave us access to the custom GPs

before the store came out. so we can test what it was like. I'm like, okay, that's cool. Then let's try out what to see what the potential of this is. What you're going to see happen in, I don't know, five years' time probably is the, you're not going to need websites or apps anymore. Like at some point, the concept of an app, the concept of a website is just going to go away. You're going to speak to a GPT for everything that you would need an app for there,

for everything that you would need a website for. you can you'll have multiple GPs and at some point you're just going to have one GPT that knows all those all those sites you're going to have one communication point with the internet rather than searching the internet right which which is it's going to cost trouble with Google for for Google because you their number one moneymaker is selling ads against search results pages and pages and pages of search results what happens when you need just one search result what do you sell ads against. Where's the real estate to sell ads against when you just say get one result back, right from an AI?

Yeah. So these stores, what I tell teachers when I, and I keep referring to the teaching because I just did this keynote on Tuesday, what teachers do, they play the passive role. We're like, an AI technology comes out, any new technology comes out. They sit and wait. They're like, all right, I'm waiting for someone to come out with one for the classroom, right? And I'm like, why wait? You don't need to wait. If you, you don't even need to buy anyone else's software, just go make one for your students with a GPT.

Right. So instead of them trying to bake in a preset prompts to assume what they think your students need, they don't know your actual students. So there's no way for them to truly personalize this app to your students because they've never met your students. You know your students. So go make a GPT specifically for your class of 25 students. And related to the IEPs, the differentiated line, their neurodivergent learning, you know Sally needs this, you know Johnny needs that. So make a GPT just for your crew.

And then for your other class that comes in with the other 25, make a GPT for them. That's specific to their needs. Right. So instead of having a big company, like a Nike, like, oh, all these companies are struggling. They still haven't adopted GPT. A lot of them have bandied. I'm like, what are you doing to your employees? You're setting them back so far, right?

Just from a skill standpoint, right? You don't need one GPT that knows everything at Nike. You develop one GPT for the marketing department. You develop another one for the product design department. You develop another one for the sports ambassador department that works with the athletes. Right. Like every department is going to have its own custom GPT to better understand. So it's unlimited.

It's unlimited the things that you can do with a GPT. right you take this gpt4 technology and apply it to all things now you have to look at the worlds through gpt lenses and say okay what can i do if i gpte that what can i do if i gpte that and it's it's unlimited so the volume of the potential of of valuable apps meaningful apps what i'm meaningful gptis is going to eclipse what's in the ios app store because to be honest when you search for a freaking app in the app store, the first two or three are relevant, the rest is just spent.

The rest is just like ad fodder from like some Russian bot, you know? Yeah, it's, it's just, that's a good point. There's so much garbage out there. There's so much garbage out there, right? And I love Abram, what you said about make a GPT for this and this and this, right? Like I tell people for every single specific skill set that you do before GPs came out, I said, have a chat dedicated to that. Build that chat up, take it from

student to expert for every single skill set. So I love that you just said, do the same for GPTs. So we've covered so much here, Abron. I wish we could talk for hours because I think the audience here would appreciate that. But as we wrap, what is that one most important thing? So we talked about the secret skill sets for more effective prompting is communication. What is the one specific piece of advice when it comes to communication leading to more effective and more impactful outputs. What is that one piece of advice you have? Bravery, man. Like, this space now is intended to cater to folks that are just willing to just try it out.

And so many people have created now courses, you know, training track certifications, you know, cheat sheets, from a prompt engineering standpoint and how to use GPT, we did not have that luxury as the early folks and the ambassadors and the original prompt engineers. And I'm probably the first

prompt engineers. It's probably the first prompt engineer of color out in the space. And in the beginning, you know, we did. We stayed up until 4 in the morning with trial and error. Trying this, trying that. And if that worked,

you know, not knowing what we're going to get back. And then you have, have a light bulb moment when you get a certain output back and you're like, oh, that's, that's it. That's what I need to do with this. And guess what? Every three months, a new technology comes out. And everyone in the industry, Sam Altman, Satya, Elon, and me and you are all starting at the same point with this new technology. Right. And it's, it's let's all figure it out together. So when a new technology comes out, they have no other advantage over you in how to figure out this technology. And if you're too scared to try it out, then you're already behind.

But like if you're out there just trying it, trying to break something and demoing stuff, I can't tell you how many people have gotten jobs from just their demos, just trying something out, posting their demo online. Someone sees their demo and they're like, hey, I love what you did with this. Can you make this for me? And I'll pay you. either for the job to build this thing at scale for myself, or I love the skill set that you've demonstrated by this demo. Come over and work at Google. Come over and work at Metal.

So just go out there and try it out and post their demos and share it with the community. And then you'll have some amazing feedback from the community. And then you'll find your tribe. You'll find other people. You'll find your ambassador group that's like, oh, I'm trying to tackle the same thing. Let's do that together. And soon enough, one of you going to get a call from like, big brand. It's like, hey, I saw your demo on Twitter on LinkedIn. Can you build that for me?

And you're like, yes, absolutely. So you always say yes. You say yes. And then you figure it out after. You say yes. And then you call the people in your tribe and like, yo, I got this big gig. You want to go in with me. And let's go build this thing together. It's not about resumes. No one's going to ask like where you're five to 10 years of prompt engineering. There's no bachelor degrees of prompt engineering. It's still just like in real time. So don't worry about credentials, don't worry about experience. Just go try something out and go have fun with it. Y'all, if that doesn't inspire you, come on, be brave, say yes, communicate like a human. That's how you dominate in 2024 with chat, GBT.

Abron, thank you so much for joining the show. This was an instant banger, instant replay. Can't thank you enough for stopping by. So, appreciate you. Have a good thing. Have a good weekend. All right. And hey, as a reminder, there was a lot there to unpack.

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