Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - EP 187: Canva Magic Studio - Revolutionizing AI Design

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

What if there was a GenAI tool that could combine the best of all GenAI design capabilities, from text-to-text to text-to-image and more? Well, that magical tool exists and it's Canva's Magic Studio. Danny Wu, Head of AI Products at Canva, joins us to discuss how Magic Studio works and ways you can use it to save time with content creation.Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode pageJoin the discussion: Ask Jordan and Danny questions on Canva's Magic StudioUpcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: [e-mail] with Jordan on LinkedInTimestamps:02:15 About Danny and his role at Canva.05:11 Create and edit visuals with powerful features.07:50 Canon's innovative "magic switch" blurs design boundaries.12:42 Enthusiasm for Canva and its practicality.14:29 Magic Write brand tone of voice, translation.19:21 AI text feature aids brainstorming, refining, drafting.22:17 Simplified AI features for easy design implementation.25:42 AI features adoption across various visual tools.29:40 Excited about Canva, seeking practical advice.Topics Covered in This Episode:1. Introduction to Canva's Magic Studio and AI Features2. Practical Business Use Cases for Canva 3. Advice for Using Canva's New AI Feature for Business Purposes4.  Canva's Focus on Embedding AI into Workflows5. Discussion of Canva's AI CapabilitiesKeywords:Canva, Magic Switch, Generative AI, design types, time-saving, collaboration, AI-powered design, communication, storytelling, small businesses, social media graphics, content creation, language translation, practical use, privacy policies, data usage, Everyday AI newsletter, Canva's Magic Studio, AI features, technologies, monthly active users, MagicRide, photo editing tools, natural media, Magic Eraser, Canva Pro, workflows, generative AI program, workplace productivity, AI capabilities, Magic MediaSend Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Start Here ▶️Not sure where to start when it comes to AI? Start with our Start Here Series. You can listen to the first drop -- Episode 691 -- or get free access to our Inner Cricle community and all episodes: StartHereSeries.com Also, here's a link to the entire series on a Spotify playlist. 

This is the Everyday AI Show, the Everyday Podcast where we simplify AI and bring its power to your fingertips. Listen daily for practical advice to boost your career, business, and everyday life. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live in Adobe Firefly, the All In One Creative AI Studio. Just describe what you want to create and the assistant handles the rest, orchestrating multi-step workflows across Photoshop, Premiere Express, and more in one conversational interface. You direct the outcome. The assistant accelerates execution. What if I told you that there was a generative AI program that combined the best of all these worlds,

right? Like something that could do text to text and text to design and text to photo and text to video. And what if I told you it was also a program that you probably already use? Well, that magical AI program already exists. And it is Canva's AI Magic Studio. And I'm so excited today to be talking about that. So we're going to talk about that and a little bit more on Everyday AI. So welcome.

My name's Jordan Wilson. I am the host of Everyday AI. And Everyday AI is a daily live stream, podcast, and free daily newsletter, helping everyday people like me and you, not just learn what's going on in the world of generative AI, but how we can all actually leverage it as well. So if you're listening on the podcast, Thank you. As always, make sure to check out the show notes. You can come in and join the live conversation. And to our live stream audience, thank you as well. We are technically debuting this

live, but it's pre-recorded because sometimes we have very smart people from other parts of the world. That 7.30 a.m. Central Standard Time doesn't always work out, such as the case as our guest today. So I'm excited to talk today about Canva's AI. It's amazing. If you haven't used it, like, why the heck haven't you? If I'm being honest, I've used hundreds and maybe even more than a thousand different generative AI tools. And Canva is probably one of my top three most use tools. If you're not using it, whether you're a small business owner, whether you work in a

corporate setting, it is by far one of the most flexible, robust, and powerful AI tools. Hopefully I got your attention with that. All right. So it's not just going to be me blabbing on. I'm excited to bring on our guests for today. So please help me welcome. Let's see if we can get them on there. Here we go.

All right. Danny Wu, who is the head of AI products at Canva. Danny, thank you so much for joining the Everyday AI show. Hey, Jonathan. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Oh, I'm excited to have you. I've been waiting to get someone from Canva on the show. I love the product. But first, before we dive into all of that, Danny, can you please tell everyone just a little bit about what you do as the head of AI product at Canva? Sure. So at Canva, I work with all of our different teams and all of our different groups that's building magical AI powered products and features.

And then lead out teams in just developing all the magic, like Magic Studio and helping like the AI, helping AI superpowers to life for community and users. That's great. So, you know, one thing, and I don't even know. know if everyone has fully explored what's inside Canva's Magic Studio because there's so much. I'm going to go ahead, you know, if you are listening on the podcast, always come back and check the live stream because this is a more visual episode. So I'm going to go ahead and maybe pull up on the screen here a little bit of Magic Studio. So Danny, maybe can you just kind of walk us through a little bit about what all is inside of Magic Studio and what can these different

kind of features or programs within the Magic Studio do? Yeah, of course. So Magic Studio is our collection of AI power tools. And what we've done with Magic Studio is to create an all-in-one platform that harnesses all of the capabilities and all of the powers of AI, things like MagicWrite, for example, that allows you, that's a writing assistance tool that allows you to very much, kind of, very much like give you creativity, superpowers as you're writing anything from a, a blog post, maybe a script for a podcast, or maybe a press release, and get AI assistance in

helping you right there and faster. But it's very, but as I mentioned, like with an all-in-one platform, it's, it's, this influences just about every single part of camera. It's very, very visual. It includes, it includes journey of AI image features like magic media, from, not just images, but also video, as well as things that help you create visual. videos with magic design for video, with things like beat sync and animations, and of course, of course, like workplace productivity tools like Magic Switch, which is our new and upgraded

magic resize. And I'm really excited on Magic Switch, for example, because this allows you to transform between all the different design types in cameras. So, you know, camera does, it doesn't just do things like flyers or social media graphics, but it also does presentations, those documents. It does so much more, and this lets you seamlessly, truly convert between those dock types in just a few clicks. And in those designs, you can create beautiful visuals, like, for example, vibrant city jungle, like you see, like you see here with magic media, as far as the images and magic morph, of course, which has to apply essentially textures to create some really, really splashy and prominent text. And in addition to that, it's not just about creating, but it's also about editing, which is such an important part of the design process.

So if you've ever had an image where it's cropped to a certain level, when you just wish there was a little bit more to the side, there's a little bit more to the bottom magic external led to essentially turn an image and expand the cameras and cameras using some, using Gen. of AI and getting whatever aspect ratio and whatever size and dimensions you want. We also have upgraded magic edit, which is to select a portion of the image and choose to change anything you, anything you want, which is super powerful. You can start interacting with photos like the objects, like the camera designs. You can, you have an image, you can grab the

subject of the image out and then edit it just like any other kind of element, which again is like super super powerful. And that's something to mention. things like magic eraser, let's remove objects. It's just by just scrubbing it through, background remover, which is one of the most popular camera features that works on both photos as well as videos. And magic animators you talked about earlier that lets you just click a button

and will create beautiful animations that matches your content and matches your theme without any effort at all. There's so much in here. We could literally talk, I think, Danny, for hours just about all of these different features. And if anyone like out there, whether you are a creative person or whether you aren't a creative person, that's one thing I love about Canva. And full disclosure here, right? So I used on and off, I've used Adobe for 20 years, right?

But I don't even open it anymore, especially after, you know, the features like we just talked. about here with Danny, like background remover, magic eraser, all of these things. So, so Danny, I'll ask you this, what is, especially with all of these new magic studio features within Canva's new AI offerings, what would you say is the one AI feature that maybe people either don't know about or the one that they maybe don't use, but they definitely should? I think if I had to pick just one, like I would probably have to say magic switch. So this is like one of this is something that we've been working for. It's actually been part of Camas's vision for many, many years.

And we've been working on it for quite a long time. And with like the powers of it with like developments of, um, journey of AI has finally became possible. Um, and so we've always wanted to kind of build an interoperable and just, yeah, and interoperable and just kind of are essentially, cross-trans transformative suite of docs so that you're not thinking like you're not constrained thinking in terms of one design type like just a presentation or a doc but for all of the for the boundaries between all of those different design types to start to blur and start to kind of

essentially merge seamlessly together and so magic switch like um is our is essentially our first step in this direction and by allowing you to convert things like a presentation or social media graphic into a doc with your custom instructions and prompt that allows to start working in what we see as increasingly this future world of operating beyond specific design types and just operating design as a concept itself. Yeah. And it seems like, you know, and if you are kind of listening on the podcast, I have the magic switch feature up here. And it's, it's actually amazing. And it is so powerful to be able to, you know, because a lot of times, you know, you might spend so much time, you know, getting a graphic or, you know, something just right. And then with the click of a button

to be able to put it into different aspect ratios, to be able to, you know, maybe it was a full page, you know, kind of a flyer type, and then to be able to put it into a small social graphic is huge. It's such a time saver. But Danny, you brought up the concept of going from, you know, kind of a design and then switching it over to a document. It seems like to me, a big push recently with Canva is this push toward collaboration and being able to work, you know, and going from a design and then changing that design into a document and being able to work on it with colleagues. What are the advantages to kind of, when you combine this, this AI powered design capabilities with the collaborative features of Canva?

Yeah, absolutely. So we added collaboration on simultaneous, simultaneous collaboration, to Canada a number of years ago and we've really seen the um the usage of that take off over the years like um especially for especially when you're not working on design by yourself or you're working on a team you're like um you're jamming our project together you're brainstorming some some new ideas um and and with this like all without without magic switch for example like you might be you might be working on a presentation and you might go hmm okay let's like let's let's let's i want to maybe turn this into a small like social media ad creative, right? Let's, I need a script and you get all my key points.

You can use magic switch to turn this into actually script for a social media ad or commercial actually and use this as the starting off point. You can jam on this. It's just like any other camera dog. You can jam on any kind of design. You can jam on this live with the team. You can give feedback.

You can then use all the tools like magic right together collaboratively to collaborateively to brainstorm ideas. So it's not just kind of, they're not just sitting in, I guess, chat, GPT, typing, typing by yourself. But all the other people that's in your design

can also see the outputs of the AI live while you do it. And it's just opportunity for, for you to work together with your team on AI. You know what? Let me ask you this, Danny. Who is, who is Canva even for? Right? Like, I think early on, you know,

maybe eight, nine, 10 years ago, you know, think Canva, at least in my opinion, was maybe for creatives. But who is Canva for? Is it still for creatives? Is it for designers? Is it for everyone? Who would you say that Canva is for and who can use it? Yeah, Canva is for everyone. So, like, even in the early days, like, what got me really excited, what led me joining Canva was that kind of, I believe that design is something that that benefits absolutely everyone. You don't have to, you know, be a, it's not, you don't have to be a creative. And in fact, even if you're not kind of in the creative industry, you should absolutely

have your harness the power of design, the power of storytelling, the power of visual communication. And so Canada is, can only is by teachers, kind of students with kind of education, canvance was for individual uses making like a wedding ISP oementation. It's for, it's for a small business working on social media. It's for a large company working on decks and the strategy and financial forecast. It's absolutely for everyone. Yeah, it's insane. You know, sometimes I'll be talking to people. And at least for me, you know, because I have a background in communications,

marketing, advertising. So I've been using Canva since, I mean, longer than I can remember, if I'm being honest. And sometimes when I meet people who aren't using Canva, I just say like, why? Like, like, it doesn't, like, it doesn't register in my head. But maybe, you know, Danny, what you could do is, is can you walk us through some maybe common business use cases, right? So let's say, you know, a small business owner, right? Maybe they have, you know, 50 to 100 employees and maybe they haven't used Canva yet. So what would you say are some practical use cases for Canva? Specifically, you know, how can they use these new AI features within

Magic Studio to maybe grow, promote, or market their business? Yeah, absolutely. So for small, say 50 to 100 size business like camera's bread and butter like we started off with a focus on social media graphics and that's still very much our one of our core focuses so if a small business with like social media presence then camera enables you to create content but also schedule the content um so across all our different social so you can actually create you know post and advance link your link your ex and uh facebook accounts and go oh i i have this new like an announcement happening next friday i'm going to get all like content ready and that's that's a very classic use case and with magic studio for example like um

magic design will let you create social media graphics um even faster in just a few clicks um and something that we see in small businesses is that they often have people who are wearing many hats and you're putting on many roles so maybe have a dedicated copywriter maybe you don't have dedicated copywriter but with magic rights brand tone of voice you can actually save what you're safe what your company and your brand's tone is all about and then let everyone on your team be able to use magic right to basically convert some text in matter how boring or how blend into something that perfectly seems your feeling seems your tone of voice and that's something that's really really great you know if you don't have you know even even not a large enterprise with dedicated copyrighters and dedicated

press and comes teams that's there to do it do it every single time and of course like you know this is a this kind of a smaller like not so mentioned feature the translation in magic switch also lets you like you feel a business that kind of like um as audiences in different um in different countries in different regions or maybe or maybe you just have users speak different languages you can actually translate all of our designs that it's a social media post whether it's a presentation whether it's a doc into more than a hundred different languages to help you communicate directly to your audience or language is speak yeah like Like the more I hear Danny talk about what Canva can do, especially with AI.

I mean, I literally have been using Canva for more than 10 years. I use it every single day. And I'm pretty sure Danny has already mentioned at least two or three things that I didn't even know about. So it's like I'm over here just like scratching my head. Like what the heck can Canva not do? So I'll ask you this, though, Danny, with all the different things, all the different features. Right. So we talked about there's text to text, right?

So you have your, you know, some of those features, maybe if you're using chat GPT or Bard or Anthropic Claude that you're used to text to text, right? And then there's the text to image features, you know, like something like a mid journey or a dolly, right? But then there's also like text to design, right? So like Tom or Beautiful AI. Kama does everything. So with that in mind, what are, if I had to have you pick just one feature,

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So whenever I'm creating a presentation or whether even if I'm creating kind of a document and I want to kind of illustrate the point in making with kind of like a graphic. Like I might have an idea of what graphic I want, right? If I want to talk about, for example, innovation, like I might want something to do with light bulbs. Like one graphic I actually recently created was using text to magic media to create light bulbs that were baking in the oven to kind of communicate the idea of just, just allowing time for innovation. And that's something that, you know, if you go with traditional stock photography,

if you go with existing assets that's being created, like a photographer hasn't really shot, like, a lot of light bulbs that's cooking in the oven. Even if they have, like, it's unlikely to be, you know, in your color scheme, in your brand's, I guess, are visual identity. But with magic media, I'm able to actually use, I use this all the time to just create new, graphic, train new illustrations. and I feel like I just gain, I feel like I've got that much gained some visual superpowers that way.

Oh, man, I love it. There's nothing cooler, y'all, than hearing someone that helps build the products that you use every day, talk about their favorite parts of the product because now I'm excited to go, like, check out a little bit more what, what Danny was talking about with that one. So one thing that I want to talk about, Danny,

is maybe some aspects of Canva's AI. offerings that people don't think about as much, right? Because I think the average person, you know, they think design when it comes to Canada. They think maybe, you know, flyers or social media graphics, right? But, but one thing that I think is, you know, super powerful is the magic right feature, right? So not only can you kind of have that, you know, text to text type, you know, output that so many people are familiar now with, you know, using programs like chat GPT or Google Bard, but you also have the collaboration feature, right? So you can literally work with your teammates using a text-to-text generation and then design things in a live document

as well. Can you talk a little bit about some of the use cases and just the power behind the the kind of AI, different AI tools that work along in this kind of feature. Yes, certainly. So Magic Ride, the text to text feature was actually one of our earliest AI features. We launched that all the way back in like more than a year, a year and a few months ago. And the use cases like that we've been seeing and continuing to increase, it's very much like, first of all, people starting off with this during the brainstorm stage. And it's not actually always necessarily to create specific content that you want to do, but sometimes it used to kind of explore the problem space.

So if you're, for example, let's say if you're working on, I guess, like a communications plan for how to like announce a change to your customers, the customers who are small business, then you can, when you've seen people use magic, right, actually ask questions, like, what makes a good communications plan? Like that's not something you literally write, but it's very much a way to ask AI and get some additional insights and get some guidance. And beyond, you know, beyond kind of our brainstorming with AI, it's also very much kind of a tool in every copywriter's tool belt that lets you from things like refining paragraphs, just writing them, writing drafts completely to even to finishing things off the conclusion. If you're not sure if you've been, you know, living in this stuff for the past hour and you just don't know what you write at your conclusion, it's something, like all of these use cases are things that we're seeing.

And I think the cool thing for us is like, I guess that we launched Nagypry as kind of a wide, open sandbox and then we have seen, you know, see how people use it. And more recently, we've added, you know, quick actions to our designs, we can say, like make it shorter, make it more fun, we write it with just one click. And that's always something that will continue to walk out

to just like kind of create all of these like quick AI workflows that help people who don't want to prompt or don't know how to prompt effectively still like harness all of this towers. Yeah, and that's another thing, right? So something that just, Danny, when you were talking that popped into my head is the design feature, right? Like the abilities to with text, right, with text to be able to create like an entire presentation. So can you maybe talk a little bit?

And I think that people can realize and understand the power of that, right? Like if you're not a creative person to be able to sit down and to type out 10 words and then to have an entire, you know, multiple page presentation that made for you, that then you can go in and edit and fine tune. But I'm also curious on the other side of it, Danny, because you're also helping shape, you know, all these different products and how they're built, you know, especially something like that. What are the challenges of building something like that that's so robust, right? So what are the challenges even kind of on the more technical side of creating something

as powerful as, you know, being able to, you know, design? something from words. Yeah, I'd be really happy to talk about that. So I think that we try to make our Magic Studio and all of our AI features really easy and really simple to use. But there is actually so much complexity that has gone behind the scenes. And I think if you look at Magic Design, for example, like a really simple way to do it would just be to take your text, what you're trying to create. And you say to generate more text and then just basically shelter somewhere inside kind of a dumb. template and then just put some text here, put some images here, and that's, that's generally kind of like the, I guess, a more like elementary or, although it's the more, I guess, a first past basic approach that like a lot of people have taken. With magic design, like we've, you know, we start with that, we tested it and then we kind of realized, okay, this is good, but how much value is this really adding? Like, is this actually good enough? And is this something that you actually really, really happy to use, I guess, that actually does, you know, your design jobs,

done effectively. And so we've had to, we would, the way we build that kind of using the law of spiking, a lot of prototypes, and exploring a lot of different potentially promising directions, much of that, like, doesn't pan out and that's okay. But for the ones that pan, pan out, like it allows us to, you know, climb the ladder towards more powerful AI features. And we've done a lot of spiking, we've done a lot of different, um, approaches and built quite kind of a quite comprehensive suite of technologies around design understanding to make magic design work as well as it does. So it's not just about kind of, you know, adding text and images to like some template. It's also about teaching AI about visual aesthetics, about composition.

It's also about annotating these things so that the AI itself understands, you know, oh, this text box is like a heading and this is what headings should have and this is next to this text box, it's a subheading, and that's what you know, and it should be connected to this. It's only through the kind of the combination of like just connecting all of these parts together and building all of this visual understanding systems that are able to make magic design.

And it's still very much early days for all of AI, like we always like to say, but there is a lot of complexity behind the scenes. And I think also like beyond the feature itself, so camera is used, camera, well, camera is used by, I think I'm just, sorry, I'm a little bit, yeah, with more than 170 million non-active users,

like we are very much kind of are serving AI at scale here. And so keeping the system scalable and available and fast to all of our users, it's very much not a challenge in itself. That's very fun to work on, but also very involving. Wait, so you said 170 million users? That's right. It kind of has more than 170 million monthly active users each and every month. That's insane.

So I'm wondering, this then, because I'm sure you're able to get so much data on how people are, you know, using Canva and what they're getting out of it. When it comes to the AI features, what, what are users using the most, you know, in the new Magic Studio? You know, because maybe that's a good thing. If someone's listening, you know, hey, you can just use all this data from 170 million people. And maybe that's where you should start if you're new to Canvas Magic Studio. So, So Danny, where are users spending the most time in these new AI products? Yeah, so we're seeing kind of adoption of all of our different AI features across, you know,

across things like Magic Riot, which is Text Detects, and across our photo, journey photo tools and full editing tools. I think some of the more popular ones would have to be around the more visual aspects, things like Magic Media, things like Magic Edit and Magic Eraser, our visual, which is not a surprise thing that, you know, we are a design design platform. And I think, like, if you happen, like, my recommendation would absolutely be checking out our new magical folder with the collection of tools from old favorites, like, background remover, to the new magic edit. There's a lot to explore there. And we find that, you know, like, from,

I guess, I'm from our, from our users and from our usage out, we find that it's often a discovery phase of a new, so, like, discarding this feature. They try, like, once or twice, and then they come back a few days later when they realize, oh, hey, I could use magic edit to fix this photo that can otherwise use, and they start becoming like very much kind of active and recurring uses of the feature. Oh, man, that's amazing. And, hey, if, if you haven't used Canva or maybe, you know, you have an account, but you're not active, Danny, I do believe even on the free plan, right, because there's a very generous free plan, but then there's, you know, the Pro Canva Pro and Canva for Teams. But I believe even on the Canva Free Plan,

And you have a lot of these magic tools. I think you have even the text of video, the magic design, right? Like there's a lot of these things that even on a free plan you can use. That's right. Yeah. So you know, on a free plan, like we want everyone to be able to explore and use this. And if AI features, even if you don't have camera pro. So we have a credit system.

Whereas a free user, you have a certain number of credits that's different depending on each AI feature. And so and the other thing is that if you are camera pro customer, then you have access to all of our AI features. Like we're not putting this behind an additional tier. We're not putting this behind an additional paywall. But Canva quo includes all of our AI. Wow. So here's my,

because we talked about a lot, Danny, but I have to know, you know, as someone who is helping build this AI that, you know, more than 170 million people are using. Like, what's next? Because I think of Canva. as a tool that is for everyone, right? Like whether you are a designer, right?

I work with top tier creative agencies that use Canva. And then I know people that don't have any creative skills and use Canva. So what is next specifically for Canva and AI when it seems like it can do everything already. So what do you focus next on as someone who's head of where Canva's going in AI? Yeah, that's a great question. So I think like what we see is kind of the most exciting. is AI like being less about individual features

that actually becoming embedded into people and businesses' workflows. So like an example I'll give is that like, you know, within like internal comes of perhaps larger-sized companies, like a lot of times you have to create things like communications plans when you want to announce a change, maybe there's that kind of a restructure, maybe there's kind of a new product announcement. And that's something that takes us a lot of times

of internal communications professionals. And tools like magic, right, magic switch actually very much that you'll create customized workflows so you might have a base template this is like how your company's communications plans are this is what all the content you have to include are but then what we what we really see kind of a development is um and what we're working on is making it easier for everyone like without any programming without any AI expertise or skills we have to actually create these um workflows with AI embedded in them so that your everyday task you do like you do like you know

10 times a month just become so much easier. And using AI, it's helping you get your work down without you even actively and consciously thinking about it. Jeez. I can't wait to see what's next. So what is, you know, as we wrap up the show here, what is the one thing? Because I'm sure that just about everyone out there listening heard something from you, just like me, right?

I've been using Canva for forever. I use it, you know, all of our graphics that we use for the show, our live stream. It's all done in Canva. And I heard even so many things. I can't wait to go try. But Danny, maybe what's the one piece of advice

that you have for someone that heard something from you today and they're like, wow, I can't wait to go out and try this new AI feature from Canva. What's your one piece of advice that they can use practically in their business? I think that we're in a business context.

I know we didn't get to talk about this too much, but the advice that would be very, I definitely my top one to give is to very much kind of like looking to your providers policies around security and around security and health and data usage and privacy. That is just like even for individual users, like it is kind of very much an important consideration. And the AI world is, that world definitely has a lot of different providers with different policies and different kind of, yeah, different privacy policies and different ways that data can be used. With camera, like we don't train on any design data.

We don't use for AI training. We don't use for product improvement without your consent. And so that's part of camera shield. And I think that's a very important question to consider before, you know, like sharing sensitive or potentially proprietary information that might be used and might end up being regurgitated and appear like in an AI model someday if you don't kind of,

if you just kind of are willingly and just like project because I think is on the top thing you find on Google. So, so like that was such a good thing to add because I'm sure there's so many people out there like, oh, this sounds like I can, you know, build, you know, a financial forecasting plan or, you know, the next, you know, quarterly earnings with charts and graphics. So Danny, I'm glad you brought that up. So we learned so much today. I'm so happy that you came on the show. And hey, if you are listening, make sure there's going to be some people from the Canva team answering questions in the comments. But Danny, thank you so much for coming on the Everyday AI show. And you really taught everyone, even someone that uses Canva every day like me, how to create more magic with Canva's Magic Studio. Thank you so much for joining the show. Thank you so much, Jordan. You're scraping here and love chatting about Magic Studio. Really, yeah, thank you.

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