Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - EP 254: Freestyle Friday - Ask Me Anything (about AI)

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

We've been doing this whole 'talk about AI every day' thing for about a year. So you decided (literally, in a poll) that you wanted to grab the metaphorical mic and flip the script. It&...apos;s your turn to interview me on the first (and maybe last?) edition of Freestyle Friday: Ask Me Anything (about AI).  Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion: Ask Jordan questions on AIRelated Episodes:Ep 200: 200 Facts, Stats, and Hot Takes About GenAI – Celebrating 200 EpisodesEp 176: GenAI Catchup – What’s coming in 2024Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTimestamps:02:25 Daily AI news06:52 Meta's large models outperform leading models.12:15 ChatGPT feature automatically commits information to memory.13:11 OpenAI struggles with sharing context window effectively.20:38 Uncertainty surrounding AI monetization and impact on SEO.23:56 Testing abilities of AI models compared to humans.36:33 Detecting text-based disinformation is more challenging.38:01 Struggling to keep up with industry changes.41:48 OpenAI and Meta update knowledge cutoff dates.48:10 Third-party tools lack necessary features for business.Topics Covered in This Episode:1. AI-related queries2. AI in business and startups3. Use of AI models4. Legal and ethical challenges in AIKeywords:AI, ChatGPT, cross chat memory, AI apps, third-party tools, everydayai.com, Freestyle Friday, large language models, Meta, Microsoft Copilot, AI acquisitions, data collection, AI chats, AI and disinformation, AI anxiety, AI startup market, Llama 3, open-source models, closed source models, MMLU system, Mistral, Cast Magic, Voila, AI in education, AI in sports, US military dogfight, NVIDIA, LAMA 3.Send Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Start Here ▶️Not sure where to start when it comes to AI? Start with our Start Here Series. You can listen to the first drop -- Episode 691 -- or get free access to our Inner Cricle community and all episodes: StartHereSeries.com Also, here's a link to the entire series on a Spotify playlist. 

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Starting point is 00:00:49 There's no topic. It's anything goes. You ask for it. So we're here. Our first ever, who knows, maybe this will become a thing. But our first ever, freestyle Friday, ask me anything about AI. What's going on, everyone? My name is Jordan Wilson.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And this is for you. Everyday AI is your guide to AI. It's for us all to learn how to leverage generative AI to grow our companies and to grow our careers. So if that sounds like you, then you should be going to Your EverydayAI.com and signing up for our free daily, free daily newsletter. Because the learning doesn't stop here with the live stream or the podcast. The newsletter is how you put that all into action. make sure if you haven't already, go sign up. And hey, like I said, when I say this is for you, it's literally for you because we
Starting point is 00:01:47 asked in our newsletter yesterday, hey, what should tomorrow show be? And just narrowly, you all wanted to hear Freestyle Friday. So whatever that is, we're going to find out. So, hey, if you're on the podcast, this one's probably going to go all over the place, depending on what our live stream audience wants to hear about today. So, hey, if you are a normal podcast listener, if you're not doing anything at 7.30 a.m. Central Standard Time. It's a great time here on LinkedIn and YouTube. There's actually some of our greatest guests that we've had over the last year, you know, now show up to the LinkedIn live stream. So it's a great place to network, meet other people who are helping push their organizations forward with AI. So hey, live audience. So whether it's Frank, who already has a question, Chrissy, our friends here on YouTube, Tara, Doug, everyone else, let me know what is your biggest AI question, right? If you don't ask it, it's going to be a show just full of random
Starting point is 00:02:49 rambling and rants. So get your questions in now. Before we do, though, let's start it off as we do every single day with the AI news. So Olympic organizers just released their plan to use AI in Olympic sports. So the International Olympic Committee has just announced plans to use artificial intelligence in sports with a focus on identifying, promising athletes, personalizing training, and improving judging. Yeah, that'll be a good one. They aim to do this in a responsible way and also use AI to protect athletes from online harassment and enhance the viewing experience for spectators. So AI will play a significant role in the upcoming Paris Olympics with plans to use it for athlete identification, training, judging, and security.
Starting point is 00:03:35 The IOC, so that's the International Olympic Committee, is determined to take advantage of AI while being responsible and ensuring the uniqueness and irrelevance of the Olympic Games. So, yeah, we've seen AI used in a lot of different ways. You know, I think just the Masters had AI commentary. We've seen it used, you know, in tennis. You know, the NBA just kind of announced their AI plans a couple of months ago. So it should be interesting how the Olympics,
Starting point is 00:03:59 and this is going to be kind of a fresh, cake that sticks around or is this going to be one of those things like, you know, how they used to have the hockey puck light up, you know, 20 years ago. So we'll see. All right. Our next piece of AI news, the U.S. military just conducted in a human versus AI dogfight in the air. So an AI controlled F-16 fighter jet has successfully engaged in a dog fight against a human piloted jet. So pretty interesting there. Making a significant milestone in the use of machine learning, in piloting military aircraft. So the first ever AI versus human dogfight occurred apparently in September at Edwards Air Force Base
Starting point is 00:04:40 in California. So this is just coming out now. The autonomous aircraft was called the X62A Vista. And it has undergone so far 21 test flights and has a modified F-16 fitted with an AI program. I have no clue what any of those letters and numbers mean, by the way. I don't follow fighter jets. but maybe if you do that means something. But the use of machine learning and piloting military aircraft has been historically prohibited due to safety concerns.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But the success of this dogfight program represents progress in the area. All right. Last, but I would say definitely not least, META has released Lama 3. It's somewhat open source model. So META's new large language model and, you know, I guess medium language model, Lama 3 is actually now live. It is already released on cloud providers, model libraries, and on meta.a.i. And so far it is, the company is boasting its improved performance and outperforming other similarly sized models in benchmark tests and human evaluations.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So the Lama 3 collection of models aims to be multilingual and multimodal have longer context and improve overall informants. So right now there's just two released varieties. So there's the smaller 8 billion parameter model, which is benchmarking above the smaller models from Google's Gemma and Mistral. There's also the medium model, the 70 billion parameter model, which is already benchmarking above, you know, Google's mid-tier, Gemini Pro 1.5, and Claude 3 sonnets. And the model that I think most people are going to be looking at that is not yet released is the 400 billion parameter model, which is expected to be the biggest model, but it is still in training. Meta CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, did release a video yesterday talking about some of the, some of these human evaluation scores, right?
Starting point is 00:06:43 So we talk about this on the show a lot, the MMLU kind of benchmark, which is one of the most, I would say the most, I don't know if you. The famous is the right word, but it's one of the most widely regarded benchmarking tests. So that's the massive multitask language understanding tests. And it's essentially a benchmark to say like, hey, can this model think, understand and reason similarly to a human? So most AI experts look at the MMLU scores to see how capable a model is in terms of can it perform tasks like a human across a wide spectrum. So so far, you know, meta's smaller, 8 billion parameter model and 70 billion parameter model. So if you think about it as small and medium, already out benchmarking the leading models out there right now, which is interesting. So we'll see if the 400B is going to out benchmark, you know, Claude 3 opus, which is kind of the leader now by like 0.1 over GPD4.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So there's going to be a lot of model talk and a lot of meta talk. And, you know, even what that means, right? But it is, meta is not to completely open source, but it is essentially open source for all intent and purposes. That's another episode for another day. But, I mean, that's pretty big news, meta going this open source route with these pretty big models. All right. So let's get into it. Let's talk what you want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So let me know, what is your biggest AI question from our audience? So, hey, maybe you want to know, I don't know, maybe you want to know something random about AI. Maybe you want to know something meaningful. Maybe you're still trying to implement AI in your company and you've hit a roadblock. Maybe you just want to know what's better between these two tools. Maybe you want to know about GPU chips or, you know, energy required for the future of generative AI.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Maybe you want to know where to start. It doesn't matter what your question is. Today is the day you all are running the show. You're interviewing me, our live stream audience. So let's go ahead. I'm going to go ahead if you don't have a question in now. Please get it in. Please get it in.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I want this to be a fun, interactive show. Don't be shy. Our audience, no one's going to laugh at you. People laugh at me, not you. So get your questions in now. And I'm going to try to answer them as I see them coming up. So we already have a couple questions. So let's just start running them down.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And hey, if you want to put me on the spot, put me on the spot. You know, you can grill me. You know, sometimes I grill our audience or sorry, our guests. So maybe this is your time to grill me. Doug, Doug starting off topic, but that's fine. So Doug here asking coffee of choice. Hey, that question counts. So you can ask about AI.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You can ask about not AI, I guess. I don't know if anyone's interested in that. But full espresso, Doug, full espresso. I can't, you know, that's what I have right here. That's already kind of warm and not hot anymore. You know what? I actually used to, I didn't drink coffee until I think I was maybe 23 or 24. Little older than that now.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And, you know, each time, you know, you try to new coffee, you're like, oh, these cake cups, these are. are pretty good. And then you, you know, get your own beans or whatever. And you're like, oh, these are great. And then when you have an espresso, there's no turning back. So it's, it's an espresso all day. But I fast, right? So I fast. So it's not like, you know, latte. It's just, you know, straight black with a little bit of sugar-free something syrup. All right. So here we go to the AI. Frank. What's up, Frank? Frank. Thanks for joining us from from the YouTube land. So Frank's asking, does chat 4, so does chat GPT4 remember across threads now?
Starting point is 00:10:49 That's a great question, Frank. So as far as I know, I haven't checked since last night, but no. So there's actually two different things that you could in theory be asking about here. So there is a feature called memory that chat GPT. I wouldn't say they had a broad rollout, but a fairly broad rollout, but still not everyone has access to that yet. I'm even checking as of last night, I usually check. check my chat GPT settings for all my accounts every single day,
Starting point is 00:11:23 just for when new features or beta features or features that have been, you know, T's do get publicly released that I can kind of know about it. So it looks like at least right now, I don't have access on that account. Let me go ahead and check my other one. So if you want to know, there should be a,
Starting point is 00:11:42 in your settings, you should have a thing that says personalize. So yeah, I still don't have it. So there's two different things here, Frank, and let me try to explain this to our live stream audience. So there is just a memory feature that Open AI, they promoted it, right? But still not everyone has it. I'm not sure why.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So this one, I think there's good and there's bad. And I did a kind of a five minute, you know, we do an AI in five almost every single day. I did a rundown on the different pros and cons of this. So essentially, when you're having a chat within Chat, GPT, or, you know, chat GPT is going to decide, you know, what are these things that wants to commit to memory? And then those memories are going to follow you follow you around from all chats. So maybe it might be something personal like, oh, I'm a marketing consultant and, you know, I care about, you know, edge computing as an example. So then if you're asking chat GPT in a new thread about something, it's going to keep that in mind. However,
Starting point is 00:12:40 I don't like this implementation or at least how it was previewed. But again, this hasn't been a public release yet either. So the bad thing is, is chat GPT picks up on a lot of those things on its own and commits it to your memory. You can obviously go in, you know, and click in your settings and delete things from your memory. But I don't like that. I don't like that chat GPT automatically applies things to memory and then kind of takes that knowledge and applies it unilaterally to all your chats because what if it's something that you necessarily don't care about, right? What if I'm talking, you know, getting restaurant recommendations, or things in my in my personal life.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And then I'm working on something, you know, for everyday AI or for my other company, Excel and agency. And I don't want that information, you know, following me around and influencing the output. So I don't personally like it. So there's that aspect.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And then there's another thing called cross chat memory. And I'd say even fewer people have access to this. And this was previewed like four months ago. So what that is is it's more about the context window being shared between multiple chats, which I don't see how that's going to work well in the short term until chat GPT has a much larger memory, right? Open AI has said that, you know, you have 128,000 tokens of memory. You do not, at least the last time I checked it was Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:14:02 It's still stuck at 32,000. So if you're sharing a context window of 32,000 or even 128,000 tokens, right, which is, let's just say for 128,000, that's, let's just say 100,000 words. So think 100,000 words of context between all of your chats, I don't think that's great, right? If we were talking, you know, Google, you know, Google Gemini's 1 million token context window, perfect, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:30 share that knowledge, that working knowledge or working context window across all chats, right? And it is different. The kind of cross-chat memory is remembering literally everything as a context window across all of your different chat. So whereas this other. feature just called memory is more of, you know, it creates a memory bank that you can then go in there and modify. So two different things. So hopefully, hopefully, Frank, that was a good, good answer to the
Starting point is 00:14:55 question. All right. So now Doug, Doug says, from yesterday, who can see custom GPs in copilot? Doug, that's a great question. You know what? You already stumped me. That's, that's so easy, right? Just because our team right now is not using Microsoft 365 co-pilot. You know, I think we are going to start testing out co-pilot pro a little bit more. You know, we're just kind of standard co-pilot users right now. But I do believe, especially in the pro and enterprise version, Doug, in the same way that in chat GPT and GPTs, you have sharing controls. I do believe the same thing can be said for co-pilot 365. You know what? I know we have a couple people from Microsoft who tuned in the show, so maybe they'll, and the live stream. So maybe they'll answer that question a little better than I
Starting point is 00:15:43 than I have, or than I can. Tara, oh, good question here, Tara. So Tara's asking, what AI apps do you have on your phone? So I might get judged for this, Tara, but just chat GPT and co-pilot. That's it. Here's why. And, you know, anyone who knows me personally can attest to this. I suck at everything on the phone.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I have hundreds of unread emails. is every day. I have hundreds of unread texts. So I'm everything Apple right now, right? So I'm on an Apple computer. I have an iPhone. So I do all of my texting for the most part on my computer. I very rarely text on my phone. I have fat fingers.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You know, I'm 38 going on 83. I don't really like, I would say I don't like to be on my phone, but I don't like to use it, I guess. I've always been kind of spoiled by big screens. You know, I have, you know, two 20, I don't know, 27 inch screens in front of me. So when I try to do anything on my phone, I don't like it. I don't like doing tasks on my phone.
Starting point is 00:16:51 But I do have obviously chat GPT on my phone. I do have co-pilot on my phone. I should probably get perplexity on my phone because I love perplexity. And I use perplexity often. So I actually don't know why I don't have perplexity on my phone. That's a great question. But yeah, I don't really use apps on my phone a whole lot, which I know I'm probably in the minority, not just for my age group, whatever someone in their
Starting point is 00:17:18 upper 30s is. I don't know what that is. John Ra, I don't know if that's a millennial or a gen something. I don't know. Is anyone else in their mid-30s? What are we called? So, yeah, I don't actually use apps a lot on my phone in general. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Chrissy, Chrissy. So, Chrissy asking thoughts on how open source, in quotes, Lama 3, will impact the A. space. Do you think it can handle the PPP model? Oh, good question, Chrissy. Okay. So let me start just with a very, very brief overview of this, you know, open source
Starting point is 00:17:58 and quotes, right? I said that to start with. So essentially this, most models that we all use and, you know, if you're a little bit of a newbie, I'm going to generalize. So if you're an expert, some of this is probably a little wrong, but I'm just, just trying to generalize it. So most models that that we talk about are closed. They're proprietary, right?
Starting point is 00:18:19 So, you know, Google Gemini, chat GPT, you know, ironically enough from OpenAI is closed. So, you know, chat GPT, Gemini, co-pilot, Claude, those are all closed models, proprietary, right? You can't go in and see how they work or build off of them. You can with Lama. Lama is somewhat open source, right? So I guess the one thing is it's not an approved open source license. So there is the open source initiative or OSI in the Lama and in meta do I guess not adhere to those standards.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So it's meta is almost trying to redefine what open source means, which I guess when you are one of the biggest companies in the world. And right now you have probably one of the leading open source AI product. Well, yeah, I don't know any other AI product that would compete with. them in the open source base. So maybe they get to redefine what open source is. But traditionalists will look and say, oh, open source, meta, llama, not really. Okay, but thoughts on how it will impact the AI space. Oh, my gosh, this is a great question, Chrissy.
Starting point is 00:19:27 So I'm actually going to pause. And I'm going to go back and see how many more questions we have. So I know how long I can go on a small little rant on this. So, hey, live stream audience. keep the questions coming. All right, it looks like we got a lot. So I'm going to try to go a little quickly on these so I can try to get to them all. And if you could keep them a little shorter too, that would be helpful.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Just so I can kind of read them live and still multitask and process them here. So Chrissy, how will it impact huge, huge power move from meta, if I'm being honest, right? So again, these are meta's benchmarks that they release. So we'll wait until we see everyone else's benchmarks. but it's very capable, right? You can go right now, go to meta.meda.a.i, right? So you have to sign in with, I think, a Facebook account. You know, I was playing around with it for 20, 30 minutes yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's a very capable model for being an open source model. So this changes, right? I think this is one of those things where meta is looking at the open AIs of the world. They're looking at the anthropics of the world. They're even looking at, you know, Google and Microsoft. and they're saying they're in a place of dominance, meta is, right? Because they're not as affected as everyone else with the potential downside, the potential financial downside of how we as humanity start to use large language models.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Specifically, I'm talking about search. So I'm talking, you know, the big players in the room, you know, Google and Microsoft, right? Because they get a lot, you know, Google more so than Microsoft. But those are two big competitors. So they get so much of their revenue from search, right? So there's been so much of this uncertainty about how all these large language models are going to monetize, how AI search is going to change, how traditional SEO is going to change, how search engines are going to continue to make money. So that's something that is on top of mind for sure for Microsoft, for Microsoft and co-pilot and for Google and Gemini and by proxy technically then perplexity as well. meta doesn't care, right?
Starting point is 00:21:35 I think this is one of those things where, you know, yes, Open AI now is, you know, probably at the point now they're going to be crossing about a billion dollars annual revenue, which is a ton for a company that, you know, just put out its first kind of quote unquote flagship paid product, you know, like a year and a half ago. This is one of those things where meta, I think, is just being like, hey, let's just create something better than everyone else, not like squash the competitors, but make the competitors is less meaningful to their overall strategy, right? At least right now, the AI space is a very small space for meta and it's current
Starting point is 00:22:12 monetization, right? Because meta, they obviously don't have a monopoly on social media, but they are bigger than everyone else, right? Between Facebook and Instagram, you throw in, you know, WhatsApp as well, you know, they have a straight up monopoly on that space where everyone else is still competing in the search space and, you know, kind of the crossover between search and large language models is starting to blend as well. So I think this is a power move from meta, just going out there and saying, hey, we're going to release models that are at the same tier or punching above the most powerful
Starting point is 00:22:49 models out there and we're going to create them open source, right? I think it almost builds this, moat to speak where they don't even necessarily need a moat, which is super interesting. You know, I'm fascinated by that. I'll probably have a dedicated show in the future about this strategy from meta, but I like it, right? At least right now, you know, I'm sure how, like they are rolling out AI in all of their platforms, right? So it does make sense for them to make a heavy investment into AI, even though the AI model itself right now is not, you know, it's open source. So they don't need to necessarily monetize it, but they want to get it better, right? That's the main advantage when you put something out there, open source.
Starting point is 00:23:31 then you have some of the world's brightest developers working essentially for you, making your model better, poking holes in it. So I love the move. All right. Lorena, joining us from Australia. Good evening. So first time live. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Is anyone else first time live here? So Lorena is asking, hearing about the benchmarking scoring, MMLU system, why is this important? Great question. So, you know, essentially, there's no. one good way to measure models, right? Even since the MMLU, which again is the multi-task language understanding, or the massive multi-language task understanding, there's been different benchmarks. So this is, you know, to put it in the most oversimplified terms, think of this as a test that a college graduate would take, right? That is just testing their abilities as a human across so many
Starting point is 00:24:30 different areas, you know, testing a human's ability to reason, right? So if there's a test, like above the ACT or SAT that we have here in the U.S. for high school students, if there's the equivalent of that, that essentially you had to take to get out of college to say, you were a very smart human being who is well-educated and you understand how the world works. You can reason. You can understand that you are the smartest of the smart. So that's, you could think of, it's like MMLU is like that, but for AI models, for large language models, right? So it's the ability to reason and really understand how this knowledge in its data sets, how the training of this, all of this knowledge in the data set can apply to real world tasks and completing real world tasks at a high level
Starting point is 00:25:14 across multiple mediums, right? So that's an easy way to think about it. And it's important because at least for now, the MMLU is kind of the industry standard benchmark in saying, hey, like testing it almost like against human performance, right? Because others, you know, there's tests that, oh, this is on math. And there's other tests that are on specified fields or, you know, kind of specialized sectors, so to speak. So MMLUs is kind of in across the board, how close is this model to being able to reason like a human to be able to understand like a human, you know, trick questions, so to speak. Maybe I'll have to do a dedicated episode on MMLU in the future. Great question, though, Lorena.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I love that. So, hey, if you are joining us midway through, thank you for tuning in. This is the Freestyle Friday. You guys voted for this in the newsletter. This is what you wanted. I know it's a little random for our podcast audience, but hopefully this is fun for our live stream audience. So Christopher joined it from LinkedIn.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Thanks for tuning in. Can you say that? Are we on AM radio tuning in? Shout out WBBM. That's my favorite AM radio station here in Chicago. So Christopher says, what are some good resources to learn how to create a local model or cloud that can be pre-trained with my
Starting point is 00:26:29 data. Yeah, this is a little more technical for the everyday AI show, but I'll tell you this, there has been so many new models recently that are now open source. So, you know, obviously I would look at Mistral. I would look at Lama's new model, you know, and then essentially applying rag. So, you know, there's different processes without getting too technical, you know, that you can kind of apply your own data through rag. And there's, you know, third party systems that make that pretty easy now for, you know, people who aren't even very technical. So, yeah, without getting too far into the details there, Christopher, I would say look at some of the mistral llama and then look at some of the kind of popular third party ways that you can
Starting point is 00:27:13 bring in your data, your own data via rag. Also chat with RTX from Nvidia. You know, you can tap into other models that way. And it's kind of like a built-in almost rag system that you can run locally on your PC. if you have a certain level of Nvidia RTX chip. So hopefully that helps. Brian, what's up, Brian? Long time, long time kind of viewer here.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So appreciate your support as always. Okay, I like this. What is your number one go-to-a-I process? Interesting. Adobe just introduced an entirely new way to create, bringing the power and precision of its creative suite into one conversational experience. Meet Firefly AI Assistant.
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Starting point is 00:28:51 Adobe Firefly AI assistant now in public beta. See it today at firefly.adobie.com. Okay. I'd say a lot of them are tied, right? And it depends on what I'm working on. But let's just say, hey, for everyday AI, right? Because that's what I spend, you know, a couple hours every single day working on. I'd say my go-to process, which is weird, is chatting with my transcript.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Because one of the things that I still do manually as a human is I write our newsletter every day. Right. And our newsletter usually goes out about two to three hours after the show is done. However, what usually happens in that time is I a lot of times have other meetings. Once I'm done with the show, I might be answering some LinkedIn comments, questions, et cetera. And then maybe I start writing the newsletter, which every single day we recap the show. So probably today what we'll do is I'll probably pick my three to five favorite questions and just do a little bullet point recap of our take on that. But so, so Brian, what happens is a lot of times I'm already forgetting.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm already forgetting, right? Like if I interview someone, you know, we had Darren on the show this week and we were talking about AI and education. And as I recall, I think I had a meeting right after. And so I'm going into, you know, type up the newsletter. Yes, written by me, a human. And I'm forgetting things. So a tool I love, two tools I love, aside from chat, GPT.
Starting point is 00:30:24 So if you're saying my go to AI process, well, one of my go to AI processes is chatting with a conversation that I had, right? And also, full disclosure, you know, sometimes when I'm interviewing someone here on the show, I'm typing down notes or I'm looking at the comments and, you know, looking for a good question for the guest. So sometimes I might miss something that a guest says, even though I'm trying my best to both tune in and to, you know, read and kind of put questions up from you all. So, but to chat with the transcript, what that means is I use cast match. Love cast magic. We had the co-founder and CEO, Blaine, on the show.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So cast magic is an AI power tool where as soon as I'm done, my coworker Brandon, like he's so quick. But I can, you know, a lot of times I'm chatting with the guest right after the show. And I can jump into cast magic. It's already there. It has a breakdown of all the key topics, which is great. But I can have a conversation, right? And I can say, oh, what did, you know, I'm just using Darren as an example because
Starting point is 00:31:27 he was a guest that we had on the show this. week, I can say, oh, what, what did Darren say about how his son was using chat chbt, right? Because I want to write about it in the newsletter. I know he referenced it, but there was a detail I forgot. So versus reading through the transcript or, you know, hitting command a aff and it's like, oh, what was he talking about? I can just ask a question in cast magic of the transcript. I'll often do the same thing with voila.
Starting point is 00:31:52 So voila is another, it's a Chrome extension that I use, that I like. I technically have a paid version of it, but I think there's a free version as well. So it does something similar. So I can do the same thing. I can go on our website pages. So as an example,
Starting point is 00:32:08 I spoke at a DePaul event here in Chicago. So DePaul is one of the largest, you know, private universities in the country. And I was on an AI panel this week. So hey, shout out if you're listening. Shout out Jackie for inviting me, one of our, you know, loyal live stream listeners.
Starting point is 00:32:26 but I went through with voila. I looked at some of my old episodes and I just said, hey, you know, recap the five main points that we talked about here or, you know, I might remember, oh, a guest said this or, you know, I was talking about a certain news item that day that I wanted to talk about at this, you know, event that I was part of the guest panel for. So I like voila, it can, you know, use the context of a web page, but you can also save kind of like different prompts, et cetera. That was a long one.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I got to start going through these a little faster. Otherwise, this is going to turn into a three-hour show. All right. Hey, theme, thank you for the question. What are the most startup ideas to integrate AI with education? And do you suggest any? Okay. It's a great question.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I would say this. If you're just looking for a random startup idea in AI and education, I would say go niche. Like, right, there's riches and the niches, right? So personalized tutors, I think are going to be great. There's already great versions. there's great GPTs that do this, Khan Academy, et cetera. So I would say to do one that is very specific. As an example, create a, you know, kind of a character version of a tutor that is specific for studying for the ACT or something like that.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Or that is specific to help, you know, college students study for the LSAT. I would do something like that to make it very narrow because there's already great wide applications. And like we talked about on the show, sometimes smaller, more refined models work better than large models. So maybe that's what something I would do there. Woozy, what's up, Woozy? So Woozy says, last stock in the tech space that everyone loved to tell me they were early on was Invidia. What's the next ones talking about yet in your opinion, Jordan? Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:34:14 All right. Well, I'll say this. I'm not, this is not financial advice. I'm not a financial advisor. Yes, I was obviously pretty early on Nvidia. well, I mean, there's obviously people earlier, but, you know, nine months ago, I told everyone, I said, I said, Nvidia is the most important company in the AI and they're going to blow up. And they did in that time, they've done unprecedented, like literally unprecedented growth that has never been seen before.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Meta, right? I'll say meta, right? Like, all right. Yeah, meta's been around for a while. And meta's stock is strong. Just yesterday, hey, I, like, I should be full disclosure, right? after I saw what meta, what meta did yesterday, I'm like, okay, yep, going to put a little more meta stock in my portfolio there, right? I'm not doing that a lot, but sometimes I'm like, oh,
Starting point is 00:35:02 okay, you know, if I see, you know, a company make a strong move or come out with a product, then I'm like, eh, not really. I might go adjust things, right? Like even my portfolio is obviously a little heavy on the tech, the AI side. Right. I think there's a fairly popular, What is it? It's Invesco QQQ, which I think is a more of a kind of tech-heavy, AI-heavy E-TF. So again, y'all, I'm not. I'm probably the worst person to talk about like, hey, what stocks in the AI space are worth looking at? To tell you the truth, I don't follow kind of these, you know, smaller, you know, smaller public companies up and coming.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Don't follow them. for the most part, I'm looking at the big boys, the Fortune 500s. So, yeah, I don't have any great takes there. Sorry, Woozy. Douglas, let's see. What do you think about PPP course that is co-pilot? Oh, yes, Douglas, I am. You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:04 I've got to reach out to my friends at Microsoft. Yeah, I need more computers. I need more computers. Yeah, I need to get a Windows machine. I haven't done it yet. A couple ones that I want. I'm like, oh, that one's a little expensive. But so many people are asking about co-pilot.
Starting point is 00:36:18 minimum, I think we're going to get our team on co-pilot pro, just because I've been personally underwhelmed with Gemini, although Google did just have their big Cloud Next announcement, and they're saying, hey, all these things are going to be public rollout. So I might give Gemini one last try across the kind of the Google workspace, across the, you know, quote unquote old school G Suite of products. But yeah, we might, we might become Microsoft office. you know, Microsoft co-pilot pro team. So once we do, Douglas, I'm sure we're going to have some co-pilot training.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And you know what? I know I've been talking about this for a while, but that is one thing that we also are going to have planned for our free community. Once we launch it, I know I've been talking about this since January, y'all. It's just we've been getting these crazy opportunities that I'm super thankful for. Like when an Nvidia says, hey, come out and partner with us for our conference, you know, got to sometimes prioritize. those things. But yeah, I think we'll be doing a lot of, you know, more, more in-depth trainings,
Starting point is 00:37:24 recorded trainings in our community that is going to be free to join. So I know most of you have already hit me up, but you can just, you know, hit me up, say inner circle. We'll give you early access, which is like, I know, three months late now. Florin, what is the most effective approach to utilizing AI to counter disinformation? Florin, that's great. So we've had some great guest on the show. And actually what a lot of companies in cybersecurity are doing is using AI to detect AI deepfakes to detect AI threats in cybersecurity. I'm not an expert necessarily, and it is a little bit different because, you know, misinformation or disinformation is a little harder to detect versus deepfakes. So you know what? Florin, I'm going to add that to my list of experts. Or if anyone
Starting point is 00:38:14 listening, maybe if you are an expert in that space, let me know. Maybe we'll get you on the show. So yes, disinformation, misinformation is a little harder to detect than, you know, kind of like traditional deepfakes or AI, you know, AI generated media, you know, because a lot of just misinformation, disinformation is text-based, right? So there's different methods and there's different, I guess there's different watermarking systems that a lot of these companies are trying to implement a little more on the media side, you know, on the video, on the photo side, there, you know, a lot of the big companies
Starting point is 00:38:46 are trying to embed invisible watermarks, whereas on the tech side, not as much. So I think it's going to be a little more difficult to detect misinformation and disinformation that is text-based versus media-based photo or video. But again, hey, if you're an expert on that, hit me up. We'd love to have you on the show. Chrissy, do you get AI anxiety? It changes so rapidly. How do you balance the urgency regarding your work-life balance?
Starting point is 00:39:10 If I'm being honest, Chrissy, I don't have great work-life balance. Love my wife for that. She pushes me to, you know, always invest, you know, in everyday AI because we believe what we're doing is, is, you know, needed. I need more work-life balance, 100%. So I love to say I have a great answer for you. I don't necessarily on how do I balance it. Do I get AI anxiety? Yeah, for sure, right?
Starting point is 00:39:39 You know, I was kind of on a pseudo vacation for a couple of days this past week. And even though I was still kind of working every day, you know, reading and writing the newsletter, like late at night. Yeah, I felt behind, right? I'm like, man, you know, even just, you know, working half days for a couple of days, I'm like, man, like, am I losing my skill set, right? Just working, you know, I was working two or three hours every day. And I still felt like, man, I'm going to fall behind. So yes, I do feel that. I think it's normal.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I think as humans, it's something we're hopefully going to, quote unquote, get over. You know, I think what it is right now is, you know, you just see thousands of new products popping up every day. I don't see that continuing to happen because I think eventually venture capital firms, private equity firms are going to stop investing in so many of these startups that I think don't have a moat. And they're just going to get squashed by Open AI by Google. Gemini by Microsoft co-pilot by Cloud Anthropics. So I don't see this like, oh my gosh, there's these 50 new, you know, AI writing tools. There's these, you know, 20 new AI image tools. I actually see that slowing down because I see the VC and private equity money hopefully drying
Starting point is 00:40:55 up. I think Pete, like, if I'm being honest, a lot of these companies, hey, you can judge me for it. Venture capital, private equity, a lot of you have no clue what you're doing. Sorry. A lot of you do, right? Yes, yes, the biggest ones. But like still to this day, I'm seeing these companies, right, announced because I follow these companies on LinkedIn. And I'm looking at their websites and it's like, hey, you know, oh, this company just raised, you know, a $2.3 million seed round. And I'm looking at the companies that invested in them.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And I'm like, that was a bad investment, right? Obviously they, they know that the company's roadmap, but I'm also saying, hey, I know this next version of, you know, GPD 4.5 or GPD 5 is going to kill thousands of these startups. So I don't understand. Sorry, I know this isn't hot take Tuesday. VCs private equity, reach out to me. You should be talking to me because you're making terrible investments. You're going to be losing so much money. I'm sure you don't care because you're, you know, have $100 billion in your portfolios and you're just taking flyers on random companies thinking they'll get acquired, you know, that's the thing. The acquisition space is not like it, like what it used to be, right?
Starting point is 00:42:08 With meta and, you know, social media, you know, these little startups would go raise a couple million dollars, get a bunch of users and, you know, Instagram or Facebook or Twitter is just, you know, acquiring them by the dozen. It's not happening in the generative AI space. That's not how it necessarily works. Yes, there is still going to be some acquisitions by these big tech companies, but for the most part, they don't need to because the next versions of their models, right, especially as it becomes more multimodal, input, output, as it becomes more internet connected, they don't
Starting point is 00:42:38 need your startup. That's not going to be worth anything. So, hey, random hot take Tuesday there, but VC companies, private equity, you're losing a lot of your money because you don't know what you're doing. All right. I'm going to try to get to one or two more questions. Some of these are long. Sorry, so I'm not sure if they're questions or just comments. So I'm going to go through at the end and see if I missed anything. So I think we have two or three more here, two or three more. So let's go ahead and tackle these and then we'll wrap up the first edition of Ask Me Anything. So Don, wait, Don, on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Wow, cool. Someone's on our Twitter or X or whatever it's called. What's not, Don, you're our first. So Don says, what do the AI large language models, do with all the data they collect. Yeah. Well, it goes into their training set. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So as an example, OpenAI just updated its knowledge cutoff date to December 2020. When I tested meta last night, it looks like their knowledge cutoff is December 2020, which I love it. Now we have two different models that only have a, you know, four month gap in the knowledge cutoff. But essentially, Don, you know, and this is a whole other comment. conversation for another day because I could talk for hours about this. More and more companies are going to block all of these.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You know, the Google, you know, Google has a separate scraper for kind of SEO versus for Gemini. You know, you have the open AI bot that scrapes websites for data. More and more publishing companies have already blocked these. So they're finding it harder to scrape data. But essentially, it goes into their models, right? Yes, copyrighted data. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Hey, whether, whether we want to talk about it or not, the elephant in the room. So these large language model, these companies, they're going to be facing a lot of lawsuits, especially after we see whatever settlement, which I think is going to be a settlement from Open AI versus New York Times is going to be a cascading effect of, you know, dozens or hundreds of lawsuits for against these companies that are, you know, scraping the open web. And I know, you know, companies like Open AI are just even making arguments, right, about like, hey, let's try to argue against copyright law, right? And there, you know, I know that we talked about in the newsletter before, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:00 they kind of put out a letter to the European Union, just not saying like, hey, yeah, we're using copyrighted data, but they're kind of challenging. Like, hey, this copyrighted, you know, data law here in the U.S., it's, they're challenging its application and its meaning. So I think that's going to be the norm as well. But essentially all these companies are scraping everything on the open internet, the closed internet works of art, copyrighted material. it goes into their data or into the training set.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Humans are training the model on it. They're using a lot of different training techniques. But essentially, what humans do is they look at all this data. They do question and answer pairings, and they kind of train the model, right? And I guess what the companies are saying is, hey, we don't use any one copy, you know, any one piece of copyrighted material. It's a collection, right? So it's like, oh, okay, as an example, if the New York Times releases, you know, something.
Starting point is 00:45:51 it's obviously it's copyrighted, but if the whole world is then talking about it, and people are talking about it on podcasts and blogging about it, right? So then they're saying, well, it's, hey, this is public discourse, right? Yes, it was maybe originally copyrighted material, but now it's public discourse. So, you know, these models that are essentially very advanced next token prediction engines, you know, are taking all the public discourse because once something is out there on the internet, everyone else is talking about it, right? Social media, blogs, are blogs still a thing?
Starting point is 00:46:21 did I just date myself? Other news websites, podcasts, YouTube, et cetera. Everyone's talking about these things. And then that just becomes part of the public discourse. But all of that data becomes part of the model, right? So that's hopefully helpful. Douglas, given the acceleration of AI, any considerations for specialized live streams in addition to the daily general?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Example, everyday AI health, AI science, AI wearables, etc. Douglas, great. I love that. So I have all these ideas, right? I use clickup. I have this task in my clickup for just like great ideas. It's like, oh, I'd love to do this and this and this. So I've had thoughts of doing essentially a weekly series with other guests that, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:07 come on, you know, once a month and having like four rotating categories, like as an example, maybe like creativity, health, finance, and, you know, general business, whatever. And then having like rotating guests that come on the show and we do one deep dive. And it's kind of this panel, this same group. And then doing that show like once a week. Right now it's a capacity thing for myself, right, if I'm being honest because have so many great ideas. And I love these great ideas.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Keep them coming. You know, because at the same time, we're also getting a lot of great opportunities, you know, to train large companies on prompt engineering, which is something that we're excited about. Great opportunities to go speak at conferences, to speak in panels. So yeah, it's balancing new initiatives with other opportunities that kind of, quote, unquote, pay the bills. So, Douglas, I love the idea. It's been an idea now for many months, but I love your suggestion here.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Even the wearables, never thought about that one. That could be a cool kind of a specialized thing there. All right, Ty from YouTube. What's up, Ty? What are your suggestions about sharing AI chats and tools with people who don't necessarily share an account. I'm thinking about coworkers with separate accounts or teachers and students. It's great. It's a great way to learn, right? It's a great way to learn prompting. It's a great way to learn how to interact with the model. So if you have one person on your team who is
Starting point is 00:48:32 great at prompt engineering, who's great at getting the most out of models, you know, they can go through that whole chat. They can share that chat with others, right? They have to have an account. So as an example, if I have a, you know, great chat in GPT4 and I'm calling on all these other GPTs, I can't just share that to someone who doesn't have an account. They have to have an account. And if they want to use it in the same way that I'm using it, not only do they have to have a chat GPT plus account, right? Because otherwise they won't be able to access it.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But they'd also have to first install and use those GPTs if they want to continue using them in the chat context that I share with them. So I think that's a great way to collaborate cross-team. If I'm being honest, I think it's one of the most underutilized features of most large language models is the ability to share chats. You know, they're not quite collaborative yet. So it's essentially, you know, the equivalent of, you know, if you have a file on your desktop, like a Word doc, and you create a copy of it and send it to someone else.
Starting point is 00:49:32 They only get what, you know, what you did up until that point. It's not like you can both collaborate on a live chat. That's not how it works. Although that's where I see, I would have thought Google would have been the leader in that didn't happen yet. But I do see that's where it's going. There's other third-party systems that allow that kind of real-time collaboration working with APIs. I don't necessarily think those third-party tools are very good, mainly because you can't always use all the features, right?
Starting point is 00:50:01 You know, like you are only getting the base model that's available via the API and those third-party tools that do allow that real-time collaboration between teams working in unison on the same chat. But you don't get to, as an example, you know, connect with, you know, your Google Drive. You know, if you're talking Google Gemini or you don't get to mention GPDs, right, in chat GPT. So when you're doing that in these third party tools, you're using a much more limited version because all you're getting is essentially the model, nothing else. And I think the true capabilities of large language models, especially in real business applications come from these quote unquote third party features, integrations, you know, whatever you want to call them, you know, you have a couple plugins from, you know, Microsoft co-pilot, etc.
Starting point is 00:50:46 that's where I think you get the real power in business utility. Woo! That was a lot. All right, y'all. Was this good? I probably missed a couple of comments. I'll go through the live stream here and try to get to any questions. But let me know, yes or no.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Did you like this show? Was it terrible? Should we never do it again? Or maybe should it be a thing that we do every once in a while? right maybe every once in a while if we don't have a show plan for friday we'll throw out a little freestyle friday or whatever this thing's called hey you guys you guys voted for this right not if so if it's if it stinks i can't take you know all the blame you all wanted a little like ask me anything informal q and a hey podcast audience i know this one was all over the place but hopefully
Starting point is 00:51:38 uh you learn from some of our great questions from our live stream audience so hey as a reminder If you haven't already, please go to your everyday AI.com. I'm going to pick either the favorite questions that we talked about here on the live stream or maybe I'll actually pick one or two that I didn't get to as well and answer those in the newsletter. So should be a fun, kind of random newsletter today, but there was a lot of news that we're going to dive into a bit deeper as well. So thank you for tuning in for our first Ask Me Anything, Freestyle Friday show. Hope this was fun. Thanks for tuning in.
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