Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - EP 327: How AI is Changing the Lives of High School Students

Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Everyday AI Show, the everyday podcast where we simplify AI and bring its power to your fingertips. Listen daily for practical advice to boost your career, business, and everyday life. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live and Adobe Firefly, the All In One Creative AI Studio. Just describe what you want to create and the assistant handles the rest, orchestrating multi-step workflows across Photoshop, Premiere Express, and more in one conversational interface. You direct the outcome. The assistant accelerates execution. Can you imagine having generative AI when you were in high school?

Starting point is 00:00:49 Think of how much different your life must have been or could have been and how much different maybe your career would look like now. We're going to go and actually have some of those conversations. What does generative AI look like if you are in high school? Well, we're going to have two very bright and promising high schoolers actually today join us and help us understand what is life like with generative AI and how is AI changing the life of high school students? There should be a fun conversation. You know, oftentimes we don't have three people on the show. Today is one of those days.

Starting point is 00:01:33 And I love talking to bright minds from the future generation. All right. So we're going to be getting into that today here in a minute, but welcome to Everyday AI. What's going on, y'all? My name is Jordan Wilson, and I am the host, and this thing is for you. Everyday AI is your daily live stream podcast and free daily newsletter, helping us all learn, generative AI, keep up, and how we can leverage it to grow our companies and to grow our careers. And, hey, the future of our companies are the young generation. So how are they using AI? What is it like? growing up with AI. I can't wait for today's conversation.

Starting point is 00:02:12 It's going to be a fun one. But make sure, if you haven't already, if you're listening to the podcast, check the show notes. There's going to be a link in there to our website, your EverydayAI.com. So you can go ahead afterwards and read the recap from today's show. But let's get started as we do every single day by going over the AI news for the day, August 1st.

Starting point is 00:02:34 All right, here we go. So first, more A. AI is coming to a drive-thru near you. So Young Brands is set to roll out even more artificial intelligence to take drive-through orders at hundreds of Taco Bell restaurants by the end of this year. So new reports show that Taco Bell is set to roll out even more AI and large language model help in its drive-thrus. So this move aims to enhance service speed, reduce labor costs, and increase sales through upselling. Taco Bell's implementation of voice AI is the most ambitious among its competitors, including Wendy's, White Castles, and other fast food chains that have tried the whole large

Starting point is 00:03:17 language model order-taking thing. So more than 100 Taco Bell locations in the U.S. already use voice AI with plans to expand to 30 more restaurants soon in California. All right. Meta is growing quickly, and it is because of AI. During its earnings call yesterday, Mata CEO Mark Zuckerberg pointed to AI as a main reason for the company's growth. So the CEO of the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, WhatsApp, etc, really pointed to AI as a main reason for growth. And growth meta has, gosh, look at this.

Starting point is 00:03:57 I mean, they've reported a 22% revenue growth year over year to nearly $39 billion, with 98% of the sales, obviously, coming from advertising on Facebook and Instagram. The growth rate has surpassed competitors with Google's ad business only seeing an 11% increase. So more than double their biggest competitor when it comes to online advertising. So CEO Mark Zuckerberg attributes the success to AI improvements and content recommendations and ad performance. And obviously, if you didn't know, there's AI sprinkled into all of meta's advertising. options as well. All right. Last but not least, Microsoft has added Open AI to a list of competitors in its just released annual report. So Microsoft's latest annual report lists OpenAI as a

Starting point is 00:04:49 competitor marking a big shift in their relationship. So despite a long-term partnership, Microsoft and OpenAI are now vying for dominance in AI offerings, search and news advertising. So Microsoft has also invested reportedly up to $13 billion in OpenAI and serves as its exclusive cloud provider. Also, reportedly that $13 billion investment came with a roughly 49% equity stake in OpenAI. So OpenAI has recently announced a prototype that's pretty similar to Microsoft's Bing's. So the new search engine prototype is called SearchGBT. and it does kind of directly compete with Microsoft's AI products, even though the product itself is built on their Microsoft Bing.

Starting point is 00:05:39 So the partnership, though, was always understood to involve competition, according to an OpenAI spokesperson. Microsoft CEO, Sadia Nadella, was reportedly not informed before OpenAI's board temporarily ousted Sam Altman last year, Open AI's CEO. So Microsoft has been much more involved. However, this has also invited a lot of scrutiny from federal investigators. So now, you know, Microsoft's saying, oh, yeah, they're a competitor, but are they really?

Starting point is 00:06:10 I don't know. We'll leave that up to the federal investigators, right? All right. So there's going to be a lot more news in today's newsletter. So if you haven't already, go to your everyday AI.com and check out the daily newsletter. All right, let's get into today's conversation. I'm excited for this one. So, like, can you imagine whether it was, you know, you were in half.

Starting point is 00:06:29 high school 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago. Can you imagine what life would be like if you had generated AI? Well, we're going to learn today. So please help me welcome on the show. We got a couple of guests. Let's go ahead and bring them on. There we go. We have them. So please help me welcome Armand Priya Darshan and Basu Lakshaman to the show. Arman and Vasu. Thank you so much for joining everyday AI. Thank you so much for having us to introduce ourselves. My name is Armand. I'm a rising senior at the Mass Academy of Math and Science at WPI, and I'm interested in pursuing computer and cognitive science. And in my free time, I like to draw and play a lot of Tetris. Love to see it. Vasu, how about you?

Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, my name is Vossu. I'm also a rising senior at the Massachusetts Academy of Math and Science at WPI. And in my free time, I like to play video games and I also like to read. And in the future, I'd like to look at the interdisciplinary field of AI and economics. I love it. Maybe let's start with you. Let's start just big picture here, and then we'll kind of walk our way through it. But let's just start at the end. How is AI changing the lives of high school students right now? I mean, it's really drastic.

Starting point is 00:07:44 So inside the classroom, it varies from school to school. But from my personal experiences, I've seen teachers who ban AI completely to all the way to encouraging students to use AI. And there's also some teachers in the middle as well, encouraging students. to use AI in some parts of their assignments, but not others. And this also varies drastically from class to class. So specifically, inhumanities, which is one of the classes we take where we study the interdisciplinary field of history and English, we were able to see how we used AI to generate text, but alongside that, compared that with our personal writing, using AI as a tool to not only elevate our writing,

Starting point is 00:08:19 but also analyze it further. Armand, what about you? How would you just describe what AI is like now for high school students and how it's changing and impacting your lives. Actually, like, I think in like November, 2022, like, what happened with Chad Shoebt, like, in the November of my sophomore year is it kind of dropped like a bombshell. So like a lot of things changed with like with the release of generative AI and large language models out to the public. And this like was seen in both students and the teachers. So we had like some teachers who were like completely against it because we had like a lot of writing assignments in my previous school. And there were some teachers like you even like made like

Starting point is 00:08:56 curriculums and like tests based off of it. Like one like notable like example I think was that one of our teachers like he taught religion and basically for his tests like what we had we had us do is like we had every single student come up with a couple of questions and he used those questions those multiple choice questions to put together a whole test for everyone. And I think like earlier we had to do them all manually. We kind of had to like look into it a little bit of research to do some like reading of the Bible. But after that with the release of chat GPT like everyone is able to just kind of like GPT questions. And as a result, like, all the tests were like GPTed as well. And that kind of like, it was a pretty funny experience. But as Vassu said, it kind of ranges widely. Like some

Starting point is 00:09:37 teachers like are pretty stringent on not using AI versus some that like actively encourage it. So, so at least at your school right now, is, is there a kind of total AI policy or does it just kind of vary, you know, classroom to classroom? Yeah. I'd say kind of very. various classroom to classroom. Because in some classes, for example, like physics and math, like you can use AI,

Starting point is 00:10:03 but like the level of problem solving that we kind of do is, I would say like somewhat beyond it. Like I know for a fact that like on like physics homeworks and like math homeworks and like we do like a lot of competition math. So it's a little bit more abstract. So but like I know I've like tried to use like the chat GPT or like Gemini and sometimes like meta AI. And that hasn't really worked out too well for me.

Starting point is 00:10:24 So I'd say like some classes like, I don't even know if it is like that helpful, but then there's others that like it's like completely invaluable for. Basu, how would you say that this, you know, even within your own school? I mean, is that challenging where, you know, maybe some classes might say, oh, you can't use chat GPT or other AI. Some classes, it sounds like at your school are encouraging and I'm guessing then there's some that are just like, you know, no one's really asking, you know, and there's not really a policy.

Starting point is 00:10:54 How does that impact your just ability to either kind of like go all in and learn alongside with AI versus like, oh, should I be using this at every step of the way? How does that kind of, you know, inconsistency, I guess, impact your learning? Yeah, 100%. So from my perspective, I think that, and this is in my personal opinion, the future of AI is truly integrating it within our schools to help elevate the quality of it. but I definitely say that it varies from class to class in the sense that teachers have different policies towards AI, which becomes very confusing. So for example, in our foreign language classes, we're not allowed to use them at all, whereas compared to that inside our humanities classes, we are. So this could be really confusing to students in a various amount of manners,

Starting point is 00:11:40 but specifically, it's really important to look at each assignment and realize what level of AI you can use, but that also varies from assignment to assignment. So I really think the future of AI, and especially probably at our school, be to integrate it more and more because AI is in the future and it will always be impactful. Armand, how would you say, you know, because you guys are actually in a in a nice position here, right? Because you had a year, you know, a year or two, you know, of school at the high school level before generative AI, you know, really boomed. And now you've had a year or two after. How for you personally, has having all of these large language models impacted your learning? Is it all good? Are there some downsides to it? How has it impacted overall your high

Starting point is 00:12:28 school journey? Can you talk to it from kind of both sides? Sure. So on one hand, I'd say it's made it a lot like significantly significantly easier. I know in like freshman year, like this was before like Chash DBT was like available and really popular. Well, it's like write like essays for my classes like like one that was like the had like really tough essays was history class i'd say because we'd like write a lot of more like a lot like more argumentative than like uh and position taking papers and then for those like i'd say like i'm kind of a perfectionist in terms of like my wording and my writing and my sentence structure so i used to spend like hours and hours on end just like perfecting like a single paragraph because like i just like wasn't sure what to do with

Starting point is 00:13:11 wording and what words to use and how to make it sound coherent and like aesthetic And I'd say like after GPT released, I, I, this is like completely changed that whole process, especially with like picking out words, like word choice and like, and wording has been like the biggest aspect of language models and helping my writing, I'd say. Because like after like after that, I had a different history class with the same teacher after. And my writing didn't change that much, but it took like significantly less time to write. And I'd say that for a fact is like definitely help me out. on the other side of that, I think one of the main, like,

Starting point is 00:13:46 risks of GPT and other generative AI models is that it kind of, like, might eliminate the need for people to think at a higher level. Because if you have, like, a model doing all the thinking for you, it was good for us, since we did have, like, a little bit of experience, kind of just, like, doing stuff on our own before that. But for example, if you, if you were, like, using GPT all throughout this entire process, I could see how, like, you might not have to learn how to think,

Starting point is 00:14:12 as much like a higher level on GPT and kind of view of you're thinking for you. Yeah. And that's huge, right? And I want to dig down a little bit on this. Vasu, what are your thoughts on this on, you know, generative AI, you know, and whether people realize this or not, right? And I'll make these arguments until I'm blue in the face. Like, yes, large language models can be creative.

Starting point is 00:14:34 They can be strategic. They can serve as a consultant. But, you know, they can also do a lot of that thinking for you. Vasu, can you talk a little bit about. that, right? Are you having problems maybe or struggling to still, you know, think as a human, right, and to learn and to analyze critically as a human? Do you find yourself giving that to large language models a little too much? Or have you been able to find kind of a nice balance? Yeah, I think it's like you mentioned how Armand and I were in a very nice position because we

Starting point is 00:15:04 had about eight years of education where we didn't have generative AI. But I could definitely see how for elementary school students or even middle school students now, how it could really change how they use AI in the future of the classroom. So as these high school classes begin to adapt alongside how students use or rather misuse AI, it will definitely have a major impact on the schooling system as a whole. But inside my experience, I'd say that AI has definitely played a crucial role inside really changing how I think. So for mundane tasks, I might distribute that to AI. Whereas for more creative tasks, I always try to prioritize my creativity.

Starting point is 00:15:40 but if there's ever a time period where I might not know what to do, I might just send a general prompt to AI, and I typically get really good answers back. So it's definitely changing how creativity is working inside our society, especially from the differential ability between humans and AI in terms of creativity as well. Let's talk about the bigger implications here, right? And I've talked about this many times before on the everyday AI show. I've had a couple of students.

Starting point is 00:16:08 I've had teachers. I've had educators who turned into consultants. How should higher education and even high schools throughout the country be handling generative AI? Because it seems like there's really not a lot of guidance from a federal level. There's not a lot of guidance from a state level. So it does seem like most districts or individual schools or even individual classrooms have to figure it out for themselves. Armand, like, what, you know, when we look at the future of education, when it comes to artificial intelligence, what kind of gets your mind spinning on ways that this could go?

Starting point is 00:16:49 I think that's a great question. It's one that's really complex and really difficult to answer. I think the number one thing that we can do is kind of work with the progressive AI. I know, like, some teachers are, like, kind of ban it and say that we shouldn't be using it at all. like there's no way you can use it. But like the, I think the harsh reality is that AI is like here and it's here to stay. And it'll be continuing to develop and get even better. And instead of like ignoring that, I think the best thing we can do is kind of work with it

Starting point is 00:17:17 and see how we can like integrate it more into our classrooms while still like maintaining that level of thought that encourages people to learn how to learn, which is the number one part of education in my opinion. So I think like we talked about this a little bit in class, but like, We thought about potentially how it could result. And instead of having more writing assignments that are open-ended and have kids do it on their own, we could have writing assignments that are in class and time so that it's completely based on how you can perform with just your own thought on pen and paper. But at the same time, I'm not entirely sure how reflective that is of someone's writing style.

Starting point is 00:17:57 Because I know for it, like, even before generative AI, I know like I would have definitely written a higher quality product if I'd spent time out. on it like outside of just school and outside of like the classroom and uh another thing that we talked about that was kind of important was integrating creative choice like as bossu mentioned like something that AI may not entirely be able to replicate for humans is that creative aspect so having more choice in writing assignments and having like more open-ended uh open-ended prompts could result in and i guess like a more uh a more creative process yeah that's Great, very, very thoughtful response there. Vassu, so picking up on what Arman said, like, should schools be going back to this, you know, oh, you know, learning is going to happen only in

Starting point is 00:18:46 the classroom, you know, pen and paper, timed, or, you know, might it be like, okay, let's all use generative AI, but use it in the classroom and timed? Like, how do you see that shaking out? Because I get that there's no maybe right or wrong answer. But how might you see the future of education shaping out as generative AI increasingly gets more and more popular. Yeah, I think that, so I recently read a book, it's called Co-Intelligence, and it's living and working with AI by Professor Malick from UPenn-Worton, and I think he sums it up really well. He draws a parallel to the time that they introduced calculators in schools. So initially, it was really a similar response where teachers were saying no calculators at all,

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Starting point is 00:21:20 What do you think the near future? Even of high schools, right? I know that you guys are now kind of transitioning, right? So you have your just finished your junior year. And now for your senior year, you'll kind of be taking, you know, college courses. You both told me that. So how should high schools be handling this, right? Because I think colleges maybe can be a little bit different. I think once you get to, you know, colleges and universities, at least here in the U.S., there is more of this, you know, kind of creative

Starting point is 00:21:51 freedom. You're doing a lot more things kind of quote unquote away from the classroom anyways. But Armand, maybe if you were in charge, right, of your high school, you know, what would, what changes or what policies might you put in place to find this, this good balance? I know it's not easy. I think like the first thing is to kind of like enforce like communication because I think like the best way to kind of get kind of get like a gauge on on how you should be using AI is like kind of ask the students first because I think like while they might they may just like say that yes we should use AI for everything like why even do stuff they also have like a I know like

Starting point is 00:22:30 at least for us like we have like a sense of responsibility with it because we had like a class called STEM and scientific writing where what are teachers. did was he kind of like created an open policy where he asked us how we think we should be using AI. And then from there we'll come up with like a couple of points. Like for example, like we only use AI for summarization. We don't use AI for like actually writing our papers. And I think we're just like asking the students and getting engaged on that would be the first step. And beyond a high school, like another like crucial stage for us right now is college and college essays. I think that is something that generative AI is like could definitely like drastically impact. Because

Starting point is 00:23:07 I guess like if you have all these tools like available to you, it's kind of like harder for colleges to gauge how good of a writer you are because it may not necessarily be your writing. And with that, like I've heard that they like place less emphasis on the essays. But I think that also like wouldn't be the right step to take because then the essays are the only way you can get to like communicate with that person and get to get to get to know them on like a personal level. So I think like that is also something that should definitely be paid attention to in the near future. Vasu, what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, like a big part of, you know, higher education in general is, is that college selection process, right? So you have your, your standardized testing, which probably won't be impacted too much considering that's usually all right, you know, pen and pencil,

Starting point is 00:23:51 you know, you're not, you know, whipping out a, you know, large language model to help you with that. But a big part of it is writing, right? It's writing, you know, those college essays and, you know, that's a big part of someone's future. How should. Should schools be handling this? And how even are you personally handling this and finding that, again, finding that balance? Yeah, I think that's a really difficult question. In terms of college essays itself, I actually have a friend who last year, when he was coming up with his college essay idea, he had entered in a lot of information about himself and some key events in his life into a large language model.

Starting point is 00:24:29 And then after, it generated some traits or character traits he should emphasize in his college And so that's one unique way to use it, but I definitely see it playing a larger influence later on. And even to talk about standardized testing for a little bit, when we look at tests like the SAT, the ACT, and how students who are maybe inside sixth grade right now are going to have a different trajectory of learning mathematics and even reading and summarizing articles, as they might be using AI more and more. I wonder how that will impact how they do on these other tests where AI is no longer present and LLMs are no longer there to assist them to help them go through these problems or these passages.

Starting point is 00:25:07 So I'm going to go ahead and call out the elephant in the room here, guys, because I think the two of you are maybe the exception to the rule, right? Like both of you, AI enthusiasts here on a daily AI podcast, but not all of your fellow students, especially in the U.S., share that same excitement and willingness to learn. to use generative AI the right way, right? Because I know plenty of younger kids your age that they don't use chat GPT or Gemini or Claude in the same way, right? They're using it to just do as little work as possible, right? Write all their papers, outline all their projects, et cetera. What are some of the downsides and dangers right now for students

Starting point is 00:25:53 who are maybe over-reliant on generative AI for those purposes? I think, like, as I mentioned, we have like a STEM and scientific writing class. And in this class, like, we worked on making our independent research projects. And I know, like, a lot of kids in our class, like, like, Jenny I was pretty big with, with this class in particular and, like, the subject of doing research and writing papers. And I think with that, there is, like, a possibility of misinformation and disinformation. So, like, for example, like, if you're writing a paper on certain metrics and, like, stuff, you can use a test out. something like novel thing that you're researching and the AI comes up with something that isn't

Starting point is 00:26:33 accurate and you end up putting that in your paper without looking over it and that could result in like the pollution of the knowledge you're trying to convey through that to that paper and like I think that the dangers of like misinformation with that especially in like in communication could be hugely like one of the more like notable dangers of AI and along with that another thing that I do with AI is I use it to code. So like GitHub co-pilot and like finned and other AI models, like those are really, really helpful like with doing like small things and kind of executing your instructions. And if you have like an AI model that's kind of like ending up like writing your code for you, there's like also like oftentimes a lot of bugs that you don't see until later on.

Starting point is 00:27:20 And if those bugs, like for example, if you're working on like an actual like larger scale project or you're developing and producing like a publishing and and working on something like that, then that also could be like one of the dangers. I don't know if it's like as relevant, but so worth measuring. It's, you know, it's wild, right? Because it all just really depends on when you're born, what your circumstances are, you know, at certain points in your educational journey, right? So I remember before computers, right, if I was working on a project, especially when I was

Starting point is 00:27:50 younger and if I needed information, I'd have to open up what few encyclopedia. as we had at home. And if it wasn't there, I'd have to go to the library. Basu, even can you talk a little bit, even in just the last, you know, maybe your high school journey, the last three or four years, how has AI changed what's possible? Because obviously you've grown up with the internet, you've grown up with smartphone, social media, et cetera. But how has generative AI changed what's possible for you as a student? Yeah, it's certainly a drastic change as it impacts, I think, both areas very heavily. So inside previous waves of innovation, we've seen how more mundane tasks are kind of taken care of, but we've still had creative thought that we still need in our society.

Starting point is 00:28:30 But really with AI, I see it as impacting both industries very heavily. And the reason for that is if I ever needed like a catchy title for an essay or if I needed something for a project, I just type in some few key details into an LOM and I'd get plenty of answers. And many of these are actually very good answers as well. So I'm really impressed by the fact that AI is able to have maintained such high level of creative thought, but alongside that, if I need to summarize an article per se, while there is that slight fear of a hallucination taking place, nine out of ten times, I'd say, is pretty accurate.

Starting point is 00:29:05 So I'm really able to see how AI has really decreased the load on us, and that's kind of a danger in itself because we're losing these analytical skills. So while Armand and I have had freshman year where we were mainly not used to AI, so we've really developed some of these skills, I'd certainly say for younger generations, it's probably a lot harder. Armand, how would you respond to that? I know, like, this may not be the easiest thing to say, but I will admit that it's made me lazy. So there are, like, some assignments that we do in school that are kind of, like, not, they don't require that much thought.

Starting point is 00:29:38 I consider them, like, almost, like, a little bit brainless in the sense that it's just, like, going through an article, like, finding the certain phrase that matches what's in a quiz and just, like, transferring that information. or like listening to a video and then kind of like writing some bullet points from that. And there's times when like it would definitely be easier for me to just like do the work and like give like a second of thought to it. But I just like don't feel like doing that. And I end up like just like making a transcript of the video plugging it into an LLM or plugging the article into an LLM and answering the question. And I don't know if that's like a good thing.

Starting point is 00:30:09 I know like especially it's like if you're doing more important and more like thought inducing work, then that won't always be like viable. But yeah, I'd say that's one of the things that have kind of happened for me. Oh, 100%, right? And I'd say just about everyone in there is in that same boat with you, especially if you're a power user, right? You always have to find that balance between like handing too much of this over to the AI versus like, okay, should I be doing some of this on my own?

Starting point is 00:30:39 I think it's a constant struggle. So we do have a couple good questions here from our audience. So we'll kind of rotate. So maybe first, Vasu, we'll do this one here from Monica. She's saying, are you seeing parents of students either pushing the school to use or not to use AI, but also to the school board teachers themselves? Yeah, I think that's a fantastic question. So I'd say that my personal parents, they encourage us to use AI at my household.

Starting point is 00:31:08 But I'd certainly say it depends on the parents' background. So if they work in, let's say the technology department, They're certainly very happy and excited to use AI. And I've even seen some parents who might not necessarily have that technological background and encourage it. But I'd certainly say some older generations, like grandparents, they might not be as accustomed to it or not as open to it. But I'd certainly say that many parents that I've talked to have asked us about AI and certainly think that it's the way of the future. So for the most part, I'd say that a lot of parents are encouraging AI, but I know that there are certainly some who believe that we should still. have that sole human aspect to us because if we do lose creative thought, that is one of the

Starting point is 00:31:49 things that make us truly human. So it's going to be interesting to see how AI and humans grow to change the definition of creativity. Speaking of AI and humans kind of growing together, this question here from Meredith, so maybe we'll go to you, Armand, just kind of asking if you've used AI as a one-on-one tutor. Yeah, that's a great question. Like, how are you even specifically using large language models to help you learn? Yeah. So one of the ways that I actually have used AI as kind of like a tutor before. This was like especially prominent for me during like for math and chemistry.

Starting point is 00:32:25 So I took chemistry last year and like to help us prepare for tests, like there wasn't that much that our teacher gave us. So I kind of like went through practice problems and had like the AI explained to me like ones that I couldn't understand. And and it would do that really well. I would pick up pretty well from that. as well as like for competitive math. Like there's some like math problems that, uh, that I can't do that I don't

Starting point is 00:32:46 want to read the solution to or I don't understand a solution. And then AI can. So I just plug it into an AI or like a language model and then it would generate something for me that I could pick up from. But I think like with competitive math like language models like on the higher end of that spectrum, it's like it becomes kind of crazy. Vasu, what about you? How have you even personally, uh, used AI to, to help you.

Starting point is 00:33:09 help you learn, to help you understand things better, maybe to help you, maybe I don't know, maybe in areas where a teacher can. Yeah, I've definitely used AI to help with research a lot. So it's really easy to get some broad set of, and also idea development. So to talk about idea development for a little bit. It's really easy to plug in one prompt and say, generate 10 topics or generate 10 ideas. And so that's really helpful to get some like basic information to then maybe even use pure human brainstorming after to get more and more ideas. But alongside that, in terms of like using AI,

Starting point is 00:33:45 I've definitely seen like my productivity is increased because of it. Because whenever you hit like a roadblock, so let's say you had on like you had like a roadblock when you were writing, you could definitely say like continue this paragraph. And then you could see some ideas of where you could extend your thought and you could choose one and then maybe even just use human writing to take it from there. I think we'll do one more question here. So our mom So Celia asking here, I'm curious how AI is impacting communication between students and group interaction in learning. How has that impacted it? Well, I'd say from like my experience, I don't know if AI has really like had that much to say with that. Like I'd say like people,

Starting point is 00:34:26 like the way people work in groups is they kind of still like, they still talk to each other. And like the groups that I've worked and have still kind of been way more on that human communication side where like AI does not play as much of a role. But they're, have been times in like group projects that involve like ideation as Vossu mentioned that we do use AI for coming up with ideas and then kind of like brainstorming as a group and where we put in like everything we say and like it'll condense it into like kind of notes. I know like Zoom as a great feature for this like where it has like AI generated notes for summaries of meetings and when we do meetings for that or meetings over Zoom then you can use AI to do that and help us condense our thoughts. And uh,

Starting point is 00:35:06 let's wrong with that. Yeah, I think that group learning. is kind of in like the same boat. Basu, what about you? And also, like, are there potential downsides, like, when working in groups, right? Like, I always think of, you know, nieces and nephews of mine, I'm looking over there and we're in a group and, like, everyone's on their phone, like, on social media. Like, could it get like that, like, you know, working on group projects and instead of, you know, five or six students being in a group, it's just like everyone kind of pushing,

Starting point is 00:35:35 you know, pushing a stick of a large language model and being like, come on. finish the group project. Yeah, I think that's a scary reality that we might begin to see more and more often in the coming years, because at least as Armand has mentioned, inside our school, we still have a lot of human interaction and communication. But I could certainly see that for younger generations, they'll definitely begin to start not only relying on these AI models more and more, but also might begin to use them within these group interaction learning opportunities that would go to a level where there's

Starting point is 00:36:05 minimized communication from one another. and maybe even just as simple, hey, you use this LOM to research this and I'll use it to research this. And then after, we'll just put it together. Whereas for at least my experiences, I prefer to have a human interaction with the individual. And then after we're like, okay, so we can research this together. We can use LOMs or AI to help us with this. And ultimately, we'll get a nice finished product. So it's definitely going to change as those younger generations go into high school and find new and innovative ways to use AI. All right. And hey, as we wrap up here, because we've talked about a lot, we've had some deep conversations about, you know, should high school students be kind of

Starting point is 00:36:45 handing over thinking abilities to AI? We talked about the future of education, some pros and cons and challenges along the way. But as we wrap up here, maybe I'll give each of you a shot. Armand, what's your one most kind of important takeaway that you maybe want other students to hear or parents or educators when it comes to how AI is right now impacting the lives of high school students. I think that no matter how much AI progresses, how easy things get, how much you can use it to benefit and make your work easier, you should never stop emphasizing the need to learn how to learn. And you shouldn't let AI get in the way of that because that's like the most important skill that you can take away from primary school and like later on in life.

Starting point is 00:37:28 it's just like learning how to learn how to like process and like uh and consume new information all right and then uh basu what about you what is kind of the one most important takeaway that you might want to leave uh you know viewers and listeners with yeah absolutely so i think to add on to what armand said you should maintain that ability to learn how to learn but alongside that you should also encourage AI because AI is certainly here to stay and by having kids learn AI inside high schools middle schools the not only become more responsible in its use, but they'll also know how to take creative pathways in the future outside of high school in their future endeavors to help them not only grow, but also benefit the community as well. So I really think it's important for the education

Starting point is 00:38:11 system to embrace AI while simultaneously teaching individuals how to work. So much good information. I loved this conversation being able to, you know, kind of rewind and take a look back at, you know, where would I be, right, 15, 20 years ago? but I think Vasu and Armand, you guys gave us some great insights on, you know, both opportunity, risks and the road ahead. So thank you so much for your time and for joining the everyday AI show. We really, we really appreciate it, guys. Yeah, thank you so much for having us.

Starting point is 00:38:46 And hey, y'all, if you're wondering, like, if you ever think, oh, the future generation, are they too addicted to smartphones? What are they going to do with AI? At least a day, I got a breath of fresh air. I don't know about you. And if you're wondering how these two young guys are so well-spoken and, you know, really stay on point with artificial intelligence, well, they also have their own podcast. So I did join them on their podcast.

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Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - EP 327: How AI is Changing the Lives of High School Students

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