Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - Ep 341: Transforming Global Supply Chains with AI

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Win a free year of ChatGPT or other prizes! Find out how.Supply chains impact everything. And AI is impacting our supply chain at every level. So what's it all mean for the future of the products... we use every day and the supply chains that make it all possible? Evan Smith, CEO and Co-Founder of Altana joins us to discuss. Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion: Ask Jordan questions and Evan questions on supply chain and AIUpcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTopics Covered in This Episode:1. Importance of Supply Chain2. Implication of AI in Supply Chain3. Value Chain and AI Integration4.  AI Addressing Industry Challenges5. Impacts of COVID-19 on Supply Chains and Role of AITimestamps:01:55 Daily AI news05:00 About Evan and Altana08:23 Outsourced supply chain is fragile, strategically important.10:38 AI revolutionizes supply chain data analysis.16:26 Automation will change work, focusing on value.17:58 Impacts of industry on supply chain future.23:57 COVID and generative AI's impact on supply chain.26:42 Supplier diversity can mean redundancy or workforce equality.30:37 Global businesses need to rethink supply chains.32:10 Reframe the AI conversation for positive outcomes.Keywords:Evan Smith, outsourced just-in-time supply chain, global supply chain network, carbon footprint, national security, China's control of critical minerals, paper-based to digitized supply chain, AI technology, large language models, trace origin of products, forced labor, business interruptions, customs and trade compliance, supplier diversity strategy, workforce and human rights evaluation, actively managed value chain network, generative AI, change of nature of work, automation, repetitive tasks, data processing, business interruption risk exposure, COVID-19 pandemic, Jordan Wilson, Everyday AI Show, Microsoft, OpenAI, Conde Nast, Altana, fabric of the world's physical economy.Send Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Start Here ▶️Not sure where to start when it comes to AI? Start with our Start Here Series. You can listen to the first drop -- Episode 691 -- or get free access to our Inner Cricle community and all episodes: StartHereSeries.com Also, here's a link to the entire series on a Spotify playlist. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Everyday AI Show, the everyday podcast where we simplify AI and bring its power to your fingertips. Listen daily for practical advice to boost your career, business, and everyday life. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live in Adobe Firefly, the All In One Creative AI Studio. Just describe what you want to create and the assistant handles the rest, orchestrating multi-step workflows across Photoshop, Premiere Express, and more in one conversational interface. You direct the outcome. The assistant accelerates execution. Whether you know it or not, your life is very much impacted by the supply chain.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yes, something that you probably don't pay much attention to at all. It's impacting our daily lives in good ways and maybe bad ways, but something impacting the global supply chain and industries, obviously, bringing in goods from all over the country and internationally, AI. AI is impacting their day-to-day operations. And I think today's conversation, whether you work around in supply chains and logistics or not, I think today's conversation is one that you're definitely going to want to pay attention to.
Starting point is 00:01:28 All right, I'm excited to get into that. But before we do, let me welcome you to the show. This is Everyday AI. My name is Jordan Wilson, and I'm the host. And Everyday AI, it is for you. This is your daily live stream podcast and free daily news. newsletter helping everyday people like you and me understand what the heck is going on in the world of generative AI and how we can learn what's going on and learn from experts like our guest today
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Starting point is 00:02:36 marking a significant advancement in AI technology and providing developers with powerful tools for innovation. So the new models include Phi 3.5 Mini Instruct, 53.5 mixture of experts or M-O-E, and Phi3.5 Vision Instruct designed for various tasks such as cogeneration reasoning and multimedia or multimodal processing. So each model shows some impressive performance in benchmark tests outpacing competitors like Google's Gemini 1.5 Flash and even OpenAIs GPT40 Mini in certain areas. So this new model from Microsoft is a smaller language model and is meant to be used locally on devices. So it's available under a Microsoft branded MIT license. These models allow developers to use and modify them freely.
Starting point is 00:03:29 That's a big part there, right? The difference between proprietary close source and open source, promoting collaboration. All right, two pieces of Open AI news. Open AI has introduced fine-tuning for its largest and most powerful model, GPT-40, targeting corporate clients. So Open AI is making headlines with the launch of its fine-tuning feature that allows businesses to tailor its advanced AI model, GPT-40, using their own proprietary data. So this development comes at a time when competition among AI startups is,
Starting point is 00:04:03 is intensifying as companies seek to leverage AI for improved business outcomes. So Open AI's new customization option in fine-tuning enables companies to enhance the performance of GPT40 by integrating their unique data sets by training the model. So the move is obviously strategically timed as businesses are under increasing pressure to demonstrate the effectiveness of generative AI and show a return on investment. Also worth noting OpenAI did announce this earlier, but developers do have up to 1 million free tokens every single day. That came after Google just announced a billion free tokens a day. Yes, billion with a B.
Starting point is 00:04:46 All right. Last but not least, Open AI has partnered with Condonast to utilize premium media content. So Open AI has announced a multi-year agreement with Condonast, the media company allowing Open AI to use content from Renate. renowned brands such as the New Yorker, Vogue, GQ, Vanity Fair, and Bon Appetit in its AI products. So the partnership highlights the growing trend of collaboration between AI companies and traditional media outlets aiming to enhance news discovery and delivery while maintaining quality and accuracy and probably fewer lawsuits as well. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So there's a lot more AI news and more in today's newsletter. Make sure you go sign up. But if you're listening, you probably want to hear about how AI is transforming the global supply chain. And that's something I'm not an expert. And don't worry, but we do have an expert to help guide us through this because I think it's something that impacts our daily lives. So I'm excited. So please help me welcome to the show. There we go.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So we have Evan Smith, the CEO and co-founder of Altana. Evan, thank you so much for joining the Everyday AI show. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. All right, cool. So Evan, just tell us a little bit. about Altona and what it is that you all do. Altona's built the world's largest data network on the supply chain. Probably that's ever been created.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And we render a bottoms up living, breathing view of the global supply chain using artificial intelligence. So think about it like Google Maps for the world supply chain, connecting governments, businesses, insurance providers, global logistics companies, all into one common operating picture to do a range of jobs. Moved goods across a border, target fentanyl precursors that are moving around the world, going to the cartels to, you know, just planning supply chains and making them more resilient and shock resistant. So a wide range of use cases all on that one data and AI platform. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And give us just to set the kind of tone here, Evan, give us your, who's your average, you know, client or customer? And, you know, really what are they using the platform for ultimately? Well, it's a lot. So we work with governments. We work with customs and border protection, with the Department of Commerce, with Department of Defense, civil agencies and national security agencies in the U.S. and abroad. We work with global businesses with physical supply chains. So everybody from like a brand or a retailer to a manufacturer in aerospace or auto or apparel. So really sweeping coverage of global business. And then we, we work with financial services companies like insurance providers and we work with global logistics
Starting point is 00:07:33 providers that are moving goods around. So we're connecting all of those different stakeholders who, you know, before us really had no way of seeing the same set of facts, you know, who am I doing business with? Where are these goods going? What's the nature of these goods? We connect them all into one common operating picture where they can have that shared source of truth. So let's do this because I'm sure there's some people have been tuning in who work, you know, in logistics and on the global supply chain. And then there's people that maybe don't. For everyone else, right, that maybe doesn't work in or around the industry, how does the supply chain affect us every day? I assume it affects probably just about me every time that I
Starting point is 00:08:16 leave my house. And obviously when I'm in here as well, but, you know, how does the supply chain impact the average American on a day-to-day basis? Well, like in literally every moment of the day, So the supply chain is the fabric of the world's physical economy, right? That's the way to think about it. It's how all of the goods and even most of the services that we depend on get to us, right? And it's abstracted away. It's invisible to a lot of us. We're not paying attention to it unless something goes wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And, you know, a big thing did go wrong in COVID. That was kind of the big wake-up call where it was like this outsourced just in time supply chain. is actually pretty fragile, and we need to start to know what that whole network looks like. But supply chain is like, it's everything. It's your carbon footprint. It's your national security exposure to China, who controls 60 to 98% of the world's critical minerals that all of our semiconductors and weapons and automobiles and everything else depends on. So it's embedded in really every part of our lives. And, you know, for a long time, it's been sort of a paper-based back office function, you know, just like make sure that things
Starting point is 00:09:36 get there on time, right, and at a low cost. And now it's really rising to the fore as a strategic, in the national security context, like a theater of geopolitical competition. And as a business context, the supply chain is actually becoming a strategic driver. So, I mean, let's just kind of start by answering some of those hypothetical questions that I started out with. You know, what are some of the biggest ways that generative AI? Because, yes, you know, in most industries as big as the, you know, global supply chain, we've had traditional AI machine learning, deep learning in play for many decades. But how has generative AI in large language models
Starting point is 00:10:17 most impacted the supply chain? And, you know, how is it already transforming it? So a little bit of just kind of arc of history on this. So, For a long time, the supply chain product, the global supply chain, was paper-based. So all of the transacting parties that are, you know, going from raw materials to an intermediate component to a finished product are transacting and then, you know, moving goods with their logistics providers or declaring something to the government. It was all these paper documents that humans were filling out, right? And that over the last 10 or 20 years has started to migrate to a digitized format.
Starting point is 00:10:57 So it's like PDFs, it's, you know, rows and columns, but it's still really messy stuff. You know, it's in Chinese and Spanish and English. And if you've ever seen supply chain data, the listeners have, you kind of know what I'm talking about. So really, why does that matter? Historically, it's been impossible to really know what that whole supply chain network looks like. Right. So you've got to get the data somehow. and you've got to process all that, you know, text information,
Starting point is 00:11:29 billions and billions and billions of records. And like no human can, no group of humans can do that. It would take millions of years of people's time. So enter AI. So we can take this unstructured data, documents, you know, semi-structured rows and columns. And we can now apply large language models and deep learning. and we can start to construct a bottoms up view of that global supply chain network for the first time.
Starting point is 00:12:00 So, you know, this company is making the cotton at this location, which moves to this mill, which turns into a rolled textile, which moves into this other garment manufacturing facility, which turns into your T-shirt, which goes over the ocean to this retailer, and this is the store you buy it from. So that whole network of production, you can now actually map out continuously and build this like bottoms up view of the physical economy. So that's kind of thing one is like it's now possible for us to actually know and model the whole global supply chain network. And, and, you know, hey, as a reminder to our live stream audience here, thank you for tuning in. Michael, Woozy, Fred, Monica, Colby, everyone else. If you have any questions on how AI is impacting the global supply chain, please drop them in now.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So one thing that, you know, I'm curious about Evan is, you know, even what you. you just said right there that, you know, the industry, even in the last, you know, decade or two, is just paper-based, right? Which, which to me, it's like, I assume every single, you know, global industry has been digitized, you know, since the 90s, but I know that's not always the case. You know, can you talk a little bit specifically even, you know, large language models? And you talked a little bit about how one of their greatest strengths is being able to take unstructured data and to bring some structure to it and to be able to tell the story. How have you even seen those impacts firsthand, maybe with either customers or clients? And what does that also mean, right? Something that is
Starting point is 00:13:31 seemingly as simple as, you know, helping turn a paper industry with, you know, unlabeled data, different languages, not, not, you know, formatted properly and organized. How can generative AI on a simple scale, even just help the industry communicate better? And then what does that mean? Well, it has a lot of implications, but I'll just pick a few. So if you're a global business, let's say you're a name brand retailer and you're buying, you know, consumer products and apparel and you're selling those through your store. Because of all that opacity and the data problem that I was speaking to, it's really, it's historically been impossible to know how the goods were made.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Right. So where did that, to my example, where did that? that cotton come from. And therefore, you can't answer questions like, what's the carbon footprint of that T-shirt? Or was there forced labor involved in making that T-shirt? Or am I going to have a business interruption six months from now because five or six hops away in the network that made that T-shirt? It's called the value chain. We're seeing a massive disruption. There's a flood. There's a factory outage, something like that. So everything until now has been obscured. in a fog you couldn't answer those questions so um so that's one i mean i think another one um
Starting point is 00:14:56 we uh we work along on at altana is um the movement of goods across a border so uh for non trade nerds listening uh you you have to declare your your product to a government this is the oldest form of taxation actually it's called a customs duty uh so these tariffs and duties when you move goods across a border order are how governments manage trade compliance and collect revenue. So the reading of documents and the judgment about what's the nature of the goods and I have to declare this code and therefore I'm paying a 5% duty to the government. That's happening on trillions and trillions of dollars across border movements of goods.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And that industry of licensed humans that's doing that work is about a $150 billion per year business. So these are, you know, credentialed licensed customers. brokers who are just reading documents, making a judgment about the nature of the goods, and helping file a regulatory attestation. So we can actually look to accelerate and even automate a lot of that work. And that's profoundly value creating in the movement of goods. And I guess where at least my mind goes when you say that, Evan, and I'm sure other people does as well, is it sounds like there's just been these just almost wild,
Starting point is 00:16:19 inefficiencies, right, right, in your industry, which makes sense, right? When it is literally connecting the world and everyone has different, you know, access to different technology, everyone has different resources, right? But how does, you know, AI and generative AI and large language models, how does it impact the work that humans will be doing, you know, in the future? Because it sounds like so many of these jobs maybe aren't needed in their current state, right? So I'm sure it's going to change, but how do you even see the jobs and the roles in the long term changing across the global supply chain? Well, I'm certainly not the first guest to tell you that it's going to change the nature of work, right? So some of these manual tasks, certainly the repetitive rote tasks
Starting point is 00:17:13 are going to be automated. A lot of the, more sort of judgment-oriented and creativity-oriented jobs will, I think, be co-piloted with AI. I think humans will stay in the loop for a very long time, if not forever. And so the nature of work in the supply chain is going to be around value-added, creative, judgment-oriented, and even, I would say, collaborative workflows. Right? So it's not just me and my silo typing, retyping data into a new form for the, you know, trucking carrier who needs to pick up the load or the customs broker who needs to declare the goods to the government. All that stuff, all that data processing is going to happen in the background. And then the humans are going to be involved in, okay, so how do I actually make a more resilient supply chain? How do I make a more sustainable supply chain? How do I better connect, not just my direct buyer and supplier, but I'm going to go to the tier two, the tier three, the tier four. We're going to work together. as a network. So those are the things that are going to be possible here with with AI doing
Starting point is 00:18:22 the heavy lifting on what has historically just been these, you know, document-oriented processes. And, you know, I think, I think that was a really good viewpoint on, you know, the near future and how industries working on the supply chain might be impacted. Evan, I'm wondering, you know, because there are probably a lot of people that work in this industry tuning into this episode, aside from, you know, oh, go check out Altana and, you know, things that you offer, how can, you know, people who are in these positions, aside from, you know, a complete overhaul of their data and their operations, right? Because I understand sometimes that's easier said than done. So for everyone else, that's maybe, you know, struggling to kind of come into this
Starting point is 00:19:11 generative AI area who works in these industries, what can they be doing? or what should they be looking at? What are some of the biggest, you know, kind of low hanging fruit, so to speak, around the, you know, logistics and supply chain industries? Adobe just introduced an entirely new way to create, bringing the power and precision of its creative suite into one conversational experience. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live in the Adobe Firefly app,
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Starting point is 00:21:02 here's a good one. So if you're processing PDFs, stop, you know, feed it to one of the large language models, have that accelerate your workflow, right? Like return structured data. So that's something anybody can just go do now from their own desk. I think, you know, bigger projects do require, more organizational buy-in. So you've got to make your company's data available to some AI system. You've got to organize that data and get it at one place. You've got to, you know, either yourself
Starting point is 00:21:35 or through a vendor, you've got to begin to structure and apply that data into training and inference workflows. So the sort of business transformation through AI does require organizational buy-in. So, you know, one thing that you mentioned a little bit earlier, Evan, is, you know, how AI right now can help, you know, companies or people in logistics really better understand, you know, things like, oh, their carbon footprint or, you know, was there forced labor involved somewhere in this process, right? And I'm sure that those things were all available, that information was available, but was maybe harder to track down or, you know, or just took more people, right?
Starting point is 00:22:23 What are some of those biggest advantages that the rest of us may not necessarily see in the products and services, right? But what are maybe some of the biggest advantages or new capabilities that the industry is now seeing with generative AI and large language models? Well, so one of the ones I'm really excited about is being able to pioneer new kinds of insurance.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So if you think about global property and casualty insurance for businesses, right, so it's everything from like cargoes to factories, you have, you're insuring against the loss of the goods or of the capital equipment and the factory burns down and I get paid. But these policies also have what's called a business interruption limit. So I'm going to transfer some of that business interruption. risk through insurance. And so the global insurance industry all has this business interruption risk exposure through the supply chain. So if my factory burns down or there's some interruption there and then I can't operate, well, you know, now I have like a billion dollar business interruption
Starting point is 00:23:40 loss. If my suppliers, suppliers factory burns down, I have a contingent business interruption loss. So you're looking at, you know, trillions of dollars of loss or rather of insured value and hundreds of billions of dollars of insurance premium, all with this hidden risk exposure through the supply chain that nobody's been able to model or underwrite until now. So as we, as you think about like, where does global business go and how you apply AI in the supply chain? And I'm a little bit talking about work we're doing, but I think it's more general, because we can now process these billions of data points and model these kinds of impacts that cascade through a network, we can insure against supply chain losses. We can model
Starting point is 00:24:26 those supply chain losses. So businesses can get better coverage. Insurance providers can do better underwriting and risk selection. The whole ecosystem is going to benefit. You know, one thing you said there is just talking about business interruption, right? And one thing that I think many of us outside of the industry, you know, I think COVID was maybe the first time at a large scale that many of us, you know, felt kind of what it means when there's large scale disruption or, you know, business interruption in the global supply chain, right? And the timing of it, right? So it was about a year or so later, many businesses started to gain access to generate. of AI, right, whether it was via chat GPT or, you know, other companies starting to use the early GPT technology. How do you think kind of this, this combination of, you know, so many suppliers
Starting point is 00:25:25 were going through a lot during that period with generative AI and kind of these things happening almost back to back. How do you think that that has changed the global supply chain in, in the long run, or maybe did it not at all? Well, I think it's changing it. So, um, The technology now exists to get ahead of these problems and not just, you know, see a problem earlier as it's happening through a network and enact on it, but to actually design and model a more resilient supply chain or value chain network. And this is a corporate board level initiative for just about every global business right now. They have a supply chain resilience or business resilience initiative. So, you know, global businesses are trying to solve this problem. Now, that requires a lot of business transformation and new ways of doing things.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And you've got to, you know, not just model it in your software, but you've got to then, you know, do the much slower work of, okay, now I've got to go work with new factories and new geographies, built compliant and, you know, on-spec products and bring those online. So that business transformation is going to take years to build these more shockproof resilient supply chains. But every C-suite and board that I talk to has some version of a top three priority focused on this. Because if you think that the world's going to get less predictable and more volatile in the 21st century, which I certainly do, then you can expect that supply chain dislocation, climate dislocation, geopolitical dislocation, is going to increase and not decrease. This is something you have to get ahead of. A great, great question here from Cecilia. So thanks for this. So she's asking, Evan, have you seen the use of AI for supplier diversity strategy effectively?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah. So supplier diversity, just for the audience, can mean two different things. One is basically having redundancy in your supplier base. So you're not being sole sourced to a single supplier. And another way that that term is used in the industry is with respect to the workforce and the kind of human rights profile of the suppliers themselves. So is it, you know, is there child laborers? Is it an all-male workforce?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Are you sourcing from veterans or people of color? So those are used in two different ways in the industry. So the answer to both is yes. And I think it's easier said than it's easier to accomplish on the first category where you can look across a whole network and, you know, tier two, tier three, tier four. And then you can start to model those single points of failures and those dependencies. In the case of, you know, the sort of firmographic profile of the companies you're doing business with, that really requires a lot of underlying attestations and data points to come together to build that profile, right?
Starting point is 00:28:36 So are they telling me the truth about the nature of the workforce? So that's where AI can play a role. You know, you can scrape LinkedIn. You can look at the, you know, the people who work for the company. You can look at different regulatory filings. You can look at different public declarations that are made about that company or, you know, chatboard. So there are AI companies and strategies. and products built around profiling the workforce and the DEI sort of posture of these
Starting point is 00:29:05 companies and then framing that in terms of supplier diversity. Evan, so one thing I think that we can all see, you know, the huge possibility and the tremendous upside, right, of generative AI, you know, when it comes to the global supply chain. But maybe are there unexpected ways that AI? might disrupt, you know, traditional supply chain dynamics, maybe that we're not thinking of. Maybe companies are a little, you know, too quick to try to sprinkle AI on everything without even having a strategy. So maybe is there a rush to this that companies maybe are missing that are maybe creating some new vulnerabilities that we might not have been able to predict?
Starting point is 00:29:48 I would say not yet. Just my firsthand experience with these organizations, you know, in supply chain, logistics, sustainability, compliance, they tend to not be very fast moving. I don't think we're in danger of some runaway unintended consequence anytime soon. But I think, you know, if you fast forward into the future will be interesting, is a lot of the routing and what's called planning, you know, is it coordinating supply and demand across buyers and suppliers and doing that across the network, you can imagine a future where that's pretty lights out.
Starting point is 00:30:25 The analogy would be Google Maps and Ways, where it just starts to automatically route you. So that's a future that will probably exist. And in that future where there's an overlay of big disruptions, dislocations, I can imagine some unintended consequences and some fragilities that, you know, the thing we built. The automation we built to adapt to the thing is actually going to create some of those same unintended consequences. Evan, maybe what's a viewpoint that you have on, you know, AI's impact on the supply chain that maybe some of your peers might look at you and be like, oh, that's interesting. I wouldn't have expected that out of view. So I have two. So if you're running a global business, if you're doing business across borders, then,
Starting point is 00:31:26 then if you're not reconceiving of your business as a value chain network. So in other words, it's not just who I sell to and who I buy from directly, but it's my supplier, supplier, supplier, back to the soil. It's my customers, customers, customers all the way to the end use. Then you're not going to succeed in the 21st century. I really believe that. So the world is changing in these ways that we're going from an outsourcing paradigm in globalization to this new thing that.
Starting point is 00:31:56 people are talking about in terms of de-globalization, near-shoring, resilience, you have great power competition that's really refactoring the whole supply chain network because of China, U.S. competition. So if you're not organizing your business as a active, managed value chain network, and you're just in the traditional mode of I have suppliers and I have customers and that's my worldview, good luck. So that's one take. And I think the other one, you told me. going to give a Gen. AI hot take. So I was invited to the U.S. Senate to give testimony on AI safety.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I was part of that group. And my contribution to the discussion, I think, surprised a few people in the government. So it was a bipartisan panel and it was very well-intentioned. It was actually a great conversation. But one of my contributions was I actually think that the way we're having this conversation where it's all about defending the public and the government and government data and public data from abuses of AI and from bias and other issues that come up is actually the wrong conversation to be having. And the conversation we need to have as the United States is how do we win the AI race in the 21st century? Because these are going to be the commanding heights of of geopolitics. And the government is one of the holders, largest holders of data. And if you think about
Starting point is 00:33:33 the positive applications of AI, in education, in healthcare, and medical research, oncology, right, in being able to manage global supply chain. So the Department of Homeland Security is one of the biggest data holders in supply chain in the world. So I would like us to reframe this and say, how can government proactively cooperate in partnership with industry to leverage data in order to achieve these beneficial, safe, positive, like net positive outcomes of artificial intelligence and ensure that we win the economic and geopolitical competition of this century. Such a great call out there. Yeah, we're looking at you government. Work with private industry a little bit more. Make the industry better for everyone. All right, I don't know about everyone else.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I am feeling much more informed now. But Evan, maybe what is your one biggest takeaway? You know, because you probably piqued a lot of people's interests. So maybe for those who work in the industry, what's your one biggest takeaway on how people can start using generative AI in large language models to really move their piece or their part of the global supply chain forward? So I would say you can now know and manage your value chains. raw materials, intermediate goods, finished products, customers that whole chain, it's possible to know it, and it's not just something you inherit blindly. Love it.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Love to see it. All right, this was a great one. I think, Evan, that you really just, at least for me even, right? I didn't know a ton. I didn't know a ton about how AI is impacting the global supply chain, but I think you just helped walk me and the rest of our audience through it. And we thank you so much. So thank you, Evan, so for joining the every day.
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