Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - EP 561: Meta’s new AI lab, OpenAI hit with huge copyright blow, AI’s impact on content publishers and more. AI News that Matters

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

 Meta just announced the legit Dream Team of AI. 🥇That's got OpenAI scrambling.... but getting top talent poached is the least of their worries after a recent copyright case ruling. 🧑‍�...�️And publishers might be able to better protect their content from LLMs, but it might make us all a little dumber. 🫤Meta’s new AI lab, OpenAI hit with huge copyright blow, AI’s impact on content publishers and more -- An Everyday AI Chat with Jordan WilsonNewsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion: Thoughts on this? Join the convo.Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTopics Covered in This Episode:Meta's AI Talent Recruitment and OpenAI's ResponseMeta's AI Chatbots Sending Unsolicited MessagesApple's AI Partnership with Anthropic and OpenAI for SiriCloudFlare Blocking AI Crawlers by DefaultUS Senate's Rejection of AI Regulation Ban on State LevelOpenAI's Legal Battle with New York Times Over User LogsImpact of Google's AI Overview on US News Sites' TrafficOpenAI's Enterprise Consulting Efforts Charging $10M MinimumMeta's Formation of AI Dream Team: Meta Superintelligence LabsTimestamps:00:00 OpenAI vs. Meta's AI Talent War06:27 Meta's Project Omni: Proactive AI Chatbots08:55 AI Personalization: Business Communication Strategy13:27 CloudFlare Blocks AI Scrapers, Enables Pay Model17:15 AI Regulation and CloudFlare Insights18:26 Senate Preserves State AI Powers22:03 Media Hype Over Unfinished Legislation27:21 "Challenges in AI Copyright Cases"28:13 AI Hits News Site Traffic Hard33:40 Meta Launches Superintelligence Labs (MSL)36:44 Meta's AI Gamble with Cash40:51 AI Developments and Legal Challenges Overview42:05 Meta Unveils AI Dream TeamKeywords:Meta, AI headlines, OpenAI, large language models, Cloudflare, AI news, everyday business leaders, Sam Altman, AI talent raid, superintelligence team, compensation review, Mark Zuckerberg, emotional impact, Meta's hiring efforts, mission-driven culture, AI chatbots, unsolicited messages, Project Omni, AI Studio platform, user engagement, AI product revenue, Apple and Siri, AI privacy controls, Cloudflare blocking AI crawlers, AI training datasets, New York Times lawsuit, copyright infringement, enterpriseSend Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Start Here ▶️Not sure where to start when it comes to AI? Start with our Start Here Series. You can listen to the first drop -- Episode 691 -- or get free access to our Inner Cricle community and all episodes: StartHereSeries.com Also, here's a link to the entire series on a Spotify playlist. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Everyday AI Show, the everyday podcast where we simplify AI and bring its power to your fingertips. Listen daily for practical advice to boost your career, business, and everyday life. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live and Adobe Firefly, the All In One Creative AI Studio. Just describe what you want to create and the assistant handles the rest, orchestrating multi-step workflows across Photoshop, Premiere Express, and more in one conversational interface. You direct the outcome. The assistant accelerates execution. Meta is making all the AI headlines in both good and bad ways.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Speaking of bad, OpenAI had kind of a bad week, both in its staffing fight with Meta and in the courtroom. And the quality of large language models could go down in the future after a huge move from cloud flare. that's kind of dorky, but I don't think anyone's actually talking about. Speaking of talking about it, that's what we're going to be doing today on everyday AI, bringing you the AI news that matters. What's going on, y'all? My name's Jordan Wilson and welcome to Everyday AI. This is your daily live stream podcast and free daily news that are helping everyday business leaders like you and me,
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Starting point is 00:02:02 But number two, if you haven't already, please go to Your EverydayaI.com. There you can sign up for our free daily newsletter, but also while you're there, you might as well just go take advantage of the cheat code that is our website because there's more than 550 episodes that you can go watch, listen, and read about for free from the world's premier AI experts, all sorted by category. So make sure you go do that. All right, uh, let's get straight into it. Y'all here is the AI news that matters for the week of July 7th. So first, open AI CEO Sam Multman has responded.
Starting point is 00:02:38 again to Meta's AI talent raid from OpenAI and others. So according to reports, OpenAI CEO, Sam Altman has responded to Meta's recent aggressive recruitment of AI talent, including from OpenAI, following a series of high-profile departures from the company to Meta's new superintelligence team, which we're going to tell you about here in a couple of minutes. So according to reports, Altman addressed Open AI researchers in a Slack message internally emphasizing the company's commitment to building artificial general intelligence and hinting at a compensation review for the entire research team. So meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced the creation of their new super intelligence team
Starting point is 00:03:23 with a lot of open AI researchers helping to launch this new team. So OpenAI's chief research officer Mark Chen compared Meta's hiring efforts to someone breaking into their home in stealing something, which we covered last week, highlighting the emotional impact of the departures. Altman, though, kind of on OpenAI's week off, week to recharge during the U.S. holiday of July 4th, he downplayed the impact of Meta's hires, claiming that most of Open AI's top talent stayed and suggesting meta had to go quite far down their list to fill positions, although obviously a lot of people online are suggesting otherwise. He criticized meta's approach as potentially leading to deep cultural problems
Starting point is 00:04:12 in reiterating that OpenAI's mission-driven culture sets it apart from competitors who may be more focused on short-turn gains. Altman stated that OpenAI is evaluating compensation to ensure fairness, not just for those targeted by meta and argue that OpenAI stock offers more long-term upside than meta's stock. So, employees who previously worked at Meta shared their support for Open AIs culture, describing meta as frequently shifting priorities and praising Open AIs, quote unquote, quirky and weird environment as a driver of innovation.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah, also in the Slack messages, reportedly Altman said, missionaries will beat mercenaries. And while Meta is doing well, in my opinion, led to very deep cultural problems. So this is one of those stories. It's not going to die down. We've covered it in its iterations throughout the last couple of weeks. But y'all, Open AI, I've said this until about December of last year had such an insurmountable or a seemingly insurmountable lead in the large language model race until Google just woke up and chose straight up violence from December onward. And meta throughout this has kind of. kind of lagged behind a little bit.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I think after Meta's Lama 4, their latest large language model, kind of came out to luck-laster reviews. It didn't benchmark as well as they had hoped. Again, meta being, though, the leader or a leader in open source or open source ask, right, if we go line by line, it's not truly open source, but it is open source for most intent and purposes. Meta's just been very far behind. But we've seen recently meta has been investing billions of dollars and apparently
Starting point is 00:06:09 offering Open AI researchers and other $100 million salaries when you look at stock options. So this is one of those things. I think it's going to continue to grab headlines in the coming months. Just this, I mean, it's unprecedented. Now you have researchers who are commanding more in salary than this. the world's top athletes, right? So, you know, sometimes you see these headlines, you're like, oh, this, you know, I don't know, NBA player who's not even that good, just signed an $80 million contract, right?
Starting point is 00:06:40 The contracts that these Open AI researchers are signing now, reportedly up to more than $100 million annually, are dwarfing the size of those kind of sometimes gaudy, you know, professional sports contracts. All right. Speaking of meta, something meta was in the new. for that was not necessarily good, but they've been, according to reports, developing and testing AI chatbots that send unsolicited, although friendly, follow-up messages to users on Facebook,
Starting point is 00:07:12 WhatsApp, and Instagram, according to a report from Business Insider. So the initiative is called Project Omni, and it aims to boost user engagement and retention for brands, having chatbots reach out to users without being prompted. So these chatbots are built using metadata. AI Studio platform, which launched in 2024 and enables users to create custom AI bots without technical expertise. So originally, these bots were supposed to be more for when users wanted to talk to a brand, but now it looks like meta may be offering businesses the capability to send messages,
Starting point is 00:07:53 right? So not just respond to queries. Like so, I'm sure many of you listening, you probably have maybe a chatbot. on your website or something like that, that responds to users' messages. So think of it on the flip side, right? So now you may have on meta's platforms, according to this report from business insider, co-named Project Omni, the ability for your AI persona, maybe that your company created in Metas AI studio platform to proactively send messages to users.
Starting point is 00:08:23 So Meta's motivation appears to be both engagement and profit with company projections aiming for $2 billion to $3 billion in AI product revenue by 2025 up from one, and up to $1.4 trillion by 2035. Yeah, talk about a huge leap in what they're expecting from AI product revenue. And one of the advantages that meta has over almost everyone else is, yeah, it kind of owns those large social and messaging platforms in Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. So we'll see how this is received because other companies have tried this, such as Character AI and Replica.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And they've tested kind of the similar proactive AI chats. And they've been kind of controversial, including legal action in one more high profile case against Character AI. So I don't know. My take on this, I get where meta's coming from, right? And how this can be an. an asset to businesses, right, that you may want to reach out to companies. And when you look at it on the surface, okay, if you maybe like a Facebook page or you follow an Instagram account, is that much different from signing up for a company's newsletter,
Starting point is 00:09:43 in which case they obviously might send you, you know, kind of unsolicited messages, although you're signing up for them. So I don't know. This is one of those weird instances and applications of AI that. I guess we as a society are going to figure out. Is it going to be weird, right? If a company messages us or texts us, unprompted, but more personal, right?
Starting point is 00:10:06 So this isn't you're signing up for SMS, you know, mass updates. This is presumably using the context of whatever your engagement has been in the past with the brand and offering it up to you in a way like an AI chatbot. So I'm even not sure how to personally feel about this, but this does look like one of those areas. of potential revenue that meta is going to explore, right? We're talking about wherever you can see crossover between traditional business practices and using generative AI in large language models.
Starting point is 00:10:39 We're going to see it. All right. We covered this one last week in our hot take Tuesday right when it happened. Seems like kind of old news by now, but this happened during the past week. So Apple is in talks in reportedly negotiating with leading AI firms, including Anthropic in Open AI to overhaul their Siri platform, according to Bloomberg. So Apple is in advanced discussions with OpenAI and Anthropic to potentially use their large language models as the foundation for a new, more capable, smarter AI-powered Siri.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So Apple has requested custom versions of these large language models to run Apple's own private cloud compute infrastructure, aiming to maintain tighter privacy controls compared to using outside cloud providers. Talks remain ongoing with no final agreement reach yet. And according to reports, Anthropic was looking for a multi-billion dollar annual fee to use their service, which was reportedly going to escalate in a huge way and spike up year over year. We don't have yet any reports on what Open AI was potentially looking for from a revenue standpoint. And Apple's internal large language models have reportedly lagged behind just about everyone else's, even though they've reportedly been spending millions of dollars on LLM developments since 2023, millions of dollars a day
Starting point is 00:12:05 trying to develop their own internal AI and large language models. But apparently it hasn't worked very well because as we've seen, Apple has lagged behind ridiculous, like it's not even close, right? You can't even put Apple in the same conversation as OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, Anthropic, and Meta, right? They're not. Their AI capabilities are probably about the same as UNIs, right, in terms of what we could do because they have nothing. They have some edge models that are okay, definitely not industry leading, that they're rolling out access to developers as well. But like I talked about in our last hot take Tuesday episode, so I'll save most of my takes and just have you go listen to episode.
Starting point is 00:12:54 What was that? Episode 558, where I give you the full lowdown and my full thoughts on this. But, you know, this is just the latest in news surrounding Apple's failure to really create any in-house AI at scale. And instead, they've spent their time trying to release research papers that debunk AI's capabilities. And they're facing a bunch of a bunch of class action lawsuits for essentially marketing AI that didn't work. All right. Moving on. Here's one of those.
Starting point is 00:13:31 This might not, you might not feel this impacts you. And you're like, oh, this is kind of a niche story. Jordan, why are we talking about cloud flare blocking AI crawlers? but it's actually a really big friggin' deal. So Cloudflare, which powers about 20% of the internet, will now block AI bots and crawlers from accessing content by default. That is huge, a move that could remove one-fifth of open web content from AI training data sets. Adobe just introduced an entirely new way to create,
Starting point is 00:14:14 bringing the power and precision of its creative suite into one conversational experience. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live in the Adobe Firefly app, the all-in-one creative AI studio. Powered by Adobe's Creative Agent, Firefly AI Assistant lets you start with your vision, just describe what you want, and shape the outcome as it takes form with the Assistant. The Assistant orchestrates multi-step workflows drawing on 60-plus pro-grade tools across Adobe Creative Cloud apps, including Photoshop, Illustrator, Premier, Lightroom Express, and Ler
Starting point is 00:14:43 including Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, Lightroom Express, and more to help bring your ideas to life. You can also get started with creative skills, a growing library of pre-built workflows for common creative tasks, like batch editing photos, creating mood boards, portrait retouching, and creating social variations. Every step the assistant takes is visible so you can refine, redirect, or take over at any time. You stay in the driver's seat as the creative director. Adobe Firefly AI assistant now in public beta. See it today at firefly.adobie.com. So this change means any new website signing up with Cloudflare will automatically prevent
Starting point is 00:15:30 AI crawlers from scraping their content unless site owners specifically allow it. So in doing so, Cloudflare is also introducing some new granular privacy controls, letting individual site owners decide which AI bots. can access their content and for what purposes, such as training, content generation, or search after verifying the identity and intent of the bots. The company is also announcing a new pay per crawl, a new initiative allowing AI companies to pay for access to web content from certain publishers, with publishers being able to set their own rates and AI services choosing whether to pay for access.
Starting point is 00:16:12 This model could create a new revenue stream for publishers. that have honestly been struggling since large language models have kind of replaced a huge chunk of their revenue while providing AI companies a more transparent and efficient way to access high quality up-to-date content. So major publishers and industry groups, including AdWeek, BuzzFeed, Fortune, Stack Overflow, the Atlantic, Time, and Quora have signed on to support the initiative. So Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince explained that this shift is aimed at giving publishers, more control and compensation, arguing that if the internet is going to survive the A of AI, this is a quote,
Starting point is 00:16:52 we need to give publishers the control they deserve and build a new economic model that works for everyone. So the move responds to a longstanding complaint that AI crawlers often ignore robots. Not text files and other controls, leaving publishers with little recourse against unauthorized scraping. So this development could press. or AI companies to negotiate directly with content creators and to pay for the data that powers their tools, potentially changing the economics of AI training and web publishing. So on the surface, I absolutely love this. This is a great move from Cloudflare, which like we just talked about there, powers 20% of the internet.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't know if this is going to work, though, because like we just mentioned there at the end, a lot of these AI companies just kind of ignore, right, kind of ignore what's in these robot. Text files. So if you're not a geek like me, let me oversimplify this. There's essentially a set of directions or instructions that you can upload to your web server. And it tells companies like Google and OpenAI and Perplexity and Microsoft. So right, all these big tech companies, both originally it was used for search engine and saying,
Starting point is 00:18:11 hey, search engines, you know, you can access these pages, don't access these pages. They're private or they're whatever, right? So it was instructions that helped companies better control their search presence and tell, you know, essentially earlier on search engines, how and where they can access their site's content that they wanted to show up in search. So prior to the big generative AI wave, it was kind of the same crawlers that would crawl then also use that data for search and for their AI training. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So what we've seen is kind of this separation now over the last year or so, where a lot of companies are trying to straight up block the AI companies from scraping their website and training on their data. But in some cases, it's like, hey, if you want to show up in search, you can't like have your cake and eat it too, right, to oversimplify something. So I love this move from Cloudflare. Like I said, though, I don't know how well it will work in theory because we've seen just about all of the big companies now face lawsuits from maybe not following the directions set forth in these robot deck text files and sometimes, you know, saying, hey, AI companies, you can't scrape our content. And then the publishers are saying it's happening anyways.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So that's one definitely to keep an eye on. All right. Our next piece of AI news, the U.S. Senate has voted 99 to one to strike down a proposed 10-year ban on state-level AI regulation from President Trump's quote-unquote big, beautiful bill that was recently passed. So the moratorium would have blocked states from enforcing laws against harmful AI uses, such as deepfakes and political manipulation for a decade, but bipartisan, opposition prevail and that failed. So here's what essentially would have happened and what ended up happening. So the Senate vote against this measure means that U.S. states will keep their power to make and enforce their own AI related laws.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Whereas what was essentially tagged on as a pork provision to this big, beautiful bill, right, which was President Trump's essentially domestic policy, it would have restricted states from enacting any sort of statewide regulation on AI for 10 years, which was absolutely nutty. And we talked about last week there was essentially an amendment to this that there was some wiggle room and it knocked it down to five years and some individual provisions, but instead the U.S. Senate just straight up shot this thing down. So this means that states will keep their powers at a state level to legislate and create laws around AI as they see fit. If the original moratorium had passed, states would have not been able to address problems like
Starting point is 00:21:16 deep fake pornography, AI driven scams or election interference at the local level for 10 years. And it only would have been federal oversight. So obviously, the AI companies were wanting something like this to pass because this mean it would be easier for them to operate, right? They wouldn't necessarily have to adhere to different rules and regulations across the US, right? It's already difficult enough, I think, for AI companies to roll out consistent products and services worldwide, specifically, right?
Starting point is 00:21:49 The EU has some very tight privacy laws and things that you just can't do. So it's kind of affected the global rollout of different AI tools, which, you know, it actually creates this competitive advantage, right, for those countries that don't legislate AI. And at a federal level, the U.S., which is obviously where I'm from, it's been the Wild West. There's really no laws, at least actual federal legislation regarding AI where a lot of other countries do have this. So this was really, I think, number one, It would have probably led to a lot more economic progress for the U.S. because they could have just said, hey, we're the Wild West.
Starting point is 00:22:38 We can do whatever we want to. But now we're going to see what's going to happen at the state level in terms of legislating AI. And like I said last week, really just keep your eye on California. Yeah, other states matter. You know, New York, Texas, Illinois, right? Not just, you know, certain states with large, you know, metropolitan, but also looking at states, you know, even something like Tennessee, right, where XAI has their data center, right? Because you could look at different levels of taxation, different rules
Starting point is 00:23:11 around job creation, about job displacement regarding AI. So it will be interesting to see how this unravels. But y'all, I said this. A lot of people online and news organizations when this first came out, they don't know how politics work, right? I was a very. I was a lot of people online. I was a former journalist. I covered politics at the state level and a little bit at the national level as well. And I'm like, there is zero chance that this actually becomes a law. Yet everyone, just because it was an amendment, you know, just because it was essentially a pork provision, right, in this domestic policy, everyone thought it was a done deal. And I'm like, no, that's not how this works. Right. So that's why, y'all, don't just believe even there were some
Starting point is 00:23:53 pretty big accounts online, some big, some pretty big media outlets that just kind of ran with this as if it was a done deal like a month ago when this was introduced. Of course it's not. All right. These first versions of these all encompassing kind of domestic policy and budgetary bills, they essentially have hundreds of unrelated, you know, what we call pork provisions, right? And a lot of them get stripped out. And all it is, it's leeway and leverage to get certain people, you know, that the minority
Starting point is 00:24:28 and majority whips can, you know, get people to vote for it or vote against it, right? According to these provisions that end up getting included or excluded from the final bill. So, you know, a lot of people were losing their noodle and being like, oh, my gosh, you know, states aren't going to be able to control what's happening. And I'm like, y'all, that's, that's dumb. It's not going to pass. And obviously, it didn't. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Our next piece of AI news, bad news for Open AI. So a federal judge has ordered Open AI to grant the. the New York Times, New York Daily News and the Center for Investigative Reporting access to its user logs, including deleted records as part of a very high profile copyright infringement lawsuit with the New York Times being kind of the lead there against Open AI. So this sweeping order allows the plaintiffs to examine whether Open AI's language models were trained on copyrighted news content. And if ChatGBTGPT is capable of reprehable.
Starting point is 00:25:28 producing or plagiarizing that material. So the New York Times argues that users may delete their chat GBT histories after bypassing paywalls, making full access to logs essential for uncovering potential copyright violations, right? So the New York Times is saying, hey, people were using chat GBT to read all of our articles that were behind a paywall. So we're losing money and people are using chat GBT to access all this. Open AI says, yeah, that's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:25:57 You know, their Open AI essentially says so much of these, so many of these things that New York Times has reported on over the years. And the New York Times alleged it was millions of pieces of content. They're like, Open AI is like, yeah, this has just become public records in so many cases, right? Just because if you report on something doesn't mean it's exclusive to the New York Times, right? Other companies have reported on it. Other people report on what the New York Times has reported on as a former journalist that happens all the time. So Open AI is saying, yeah, we never. will reproduce anything verbatim, right, that is exclusive to the New York Times behind a paywall.
Starting point is 00:26:34 The New York Times is obviously saying absolutely, yes, you do. And for now, a federal judge is granting what I think is kind of a shocking allowance for these companies to move forward, looking at private and deleted chats from OpenAI. So OpenAI has objected to the ruling, saying it undermines its longstanding privacy norms and has vowed to continue fighting the order as both sides negotiate how the data search will proceed. So the order covers logs from free chat GBT and API users, but specifically exempts enterprise and educational accounts. So the plaintiffs also hope to use the logs to show that chat GBT's ability to summarize
Starting point is 00:27:15 articles reduces direct traffic to new sites, leading to lost ad revenue and market dilution for publishers. Open AI has stated it will, quote, unquote, keep fighting the order and is actively appealing the judge's decision. So this stems from the original lawsuit. This thing's been going on for a long time, going back to December of 2023. So what, that's more than 18 months now that this has been going through the courts, but a pretty big, a pretty big development here. But again, this isn't the end, right? I believe that Open AI will appeal this and it's not going to be a done deal, but obviously we'll be covering this former journalist and me.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You know, I'm not picking and choosing sides here, but you also have to think, number one, I think this request and the fact that it was granted is absolutely bonkers, but number two, you also have to say, hey, Open AI and all the other AI tech companies, they did just essentially scrape the open web to train their large language model. So I definitely understand where both sides are coming from. And if you want independent and mainstream journalism to continue, you have to make sure that these companies are able to monetize somehow. I've always said all along the only, go back,
Starting point is 00:28:33 I've been saying this since 2023. I've been saying the only way for this to work in the long run, right? We'll see how this new cloud flare option plays out. But I said, you can number one, companies can sue. That's number one. Number two, you can go into content agreements, right? So a lot of you've seen these with news organizations, sites like Reddit, you know, signing these, you know, $10 million plus or tens of millions of dollars agreements each year.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So number one, you can sue. Number two, you can sign a huge agreement or number three, you can probably just go out of business. So, you know, we'll see, and this is the key case here. Obviously, there's been some juicy, you know, AI. kind of cases like we talked about the, uh, the Disney versus mid journey one,
Starting point is 00:29:21 but this is the biggest one because text is a lot easier, uh, or sorry, it's, it's a lot more convoluted to prove, right, than if you go into mid journey, then you say, you know, draw me a picture of a superhero and it spits out in almost
Starting point is 00:29:34 verbatim, uh, you know, something from Disney or, you know, universal or Marvel or whatever. It's a lot more difficult when you look at the, uh, the entirety of the internet and it's put into this melting
Starting point is 00:29:47 pot stirred in something new and unique comes out. So that one's going to be an interesting one to follow, which leads to our next new story, which is very relevant to the last one. So new data from a similar web shows that 37 out of the top 50 US news websites have suffered significant year-over-year traffic declines since Google introduced its AI overview search feature in May 2024. So now that has, even though it was. a gradual rollout. That feature has now been out for more than a year. So Forbes and Huffington
Starting point is 00:30:22 Post experienced the steepest drops, each losing about 40% of their website traffic, while Daily Mail fell 32% and CNN dropped 28%. So according to this new similar web study, and if you don't know a similar web, they are one of the most reputable, you know, companies or services just that studies the internet and internet usage at the whole. So according to this similar web study, the rollout of AI overviews had led to automated summaries appearing at the top of Google's search results, often answering user questions directly in reducing the need to click through to the news sites. So the News Media Alliance, which represents over 2,200 news organizations, warns that these changes are making it harder for publishers
Starting point is 00:31:11 to invest in quality journalism as their audience shrinks. So the average click-through rate for the top organic search results on queries triggered AI overviews dropped from 7.3% in March, 2024 to just 2.6% a year later, according to multiple studies. So yeah, that's not good. So all of these publishers that really thrive on clicks, right, because then when you click on, you know, I don't know, let me pull. What were the examples here?
Starting point is 00:31:41 uh, Forbes, right? So when you go to a Forbes, uh, web article, they make money because there's ads on their pages or you may sign up for their email list or one of their services. So obviously the fewer people that end up on the Forbes.com website, Forbes loses a ton of money. Uh, so then that, uh, impacts their ability to create new and unique information to put out on its website. So it is weird, just the very nature of this relationship of large language which models scraping the entirety of the internet, it actually hurts the world's ability to create new and unique information. And again, this is another one of those things I've been talking about since 2023,
Starting point is 00:32:24 since I started everyday AI, that we are going to see this cyclical slop, right? Because so much of new information that has been posted since like 2021 has just been GPT spun or syntax created from old information. So the percentage of new, high quality, unique information, stats and studies that is being put out there is at a much lower rate. So we have to, you know, not like worry about the future of large language models in their utility and the everyday business context. But you have to look at that, right?
Starting point is 00:33:00 And what happens if something like this cloud flare plan comes to fruition and, you know, these AI companies maybe just aren't. aren't going to pay up, right? So hopefully, you know, there can be this harmonious, you know, joint effort where, you know, the big AI companies are somehow paying or, you know, something on the back end, you know, all of these online publishers that are now just losing clicks and losing, you know, losing traffic. And that's, like I said, it's really restricting their ability to create new accurate information.
Starting point is 00:33:34 All right. Our two last stories. So according to reports, Open AI is going into consulting or at least doubling down on their consulting efforts. So according to the information, OpenAI is intensifying its enterprise consulting efforts, now charging at least $10 million per client. So the company's engineers, known internally as forward deployed engineers, work directly with third-party organizations to tailor models like GPT40 to specific,
Starting point is 00:34:05 business data and develop custom AI applications, including chatbots. So this move places OpenAI in direct competition with established consulting firms like Accenture, Deloitte, as well as companies like Palantir. So services extend beyond model customization to include data labeling where experts review and correct AI generated responses, ensuring higher accuracy for enterprise solutions. So Open AI is reportedly considering outsourcing some of this data labeling, to work to specialists like Snorkel AI and Surge AI after companies like OpenAI and Google broke ties with scale AI, which was Aqua acquired or Aqua hired by, you know, meta. So high profile clients already include the U.S. Department of Defense and Southeast Asian Tech Company Grab.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So these are companies that are reportedly already using this Open AI consulting services signaling, significant trust and adoption among major organizations. So this shift could make AI implementation more accessible to large enterprises, but also raises the bar for entry due to the high service costs. And I don't know, you could pay $10 million or you could reach out to us. We'd do it for wait a less. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Our last piece of AI news. We talked about this at the top of the show, but let's get into all of the nitty, gritty details because meta essentially just released their dream team for the newly created and announced. Here's the official name of meta's new AI organization. It is MSL, the meta superintelligence labs. So meta has announced MSL, their new organizational structure, uniting its foundation, product, and fair teams with a dedicated lab for next generation AI models, according to a memo obtained by
Starting point is 00:36:04 the wire. So the move marks a major escalation in the AI talent wars. Like we said, meta essentially acquired a 49% stake in scale AI, which all the other big tech companies used before, and also hired its CEO, Alexander Wang, as the chief AI officer to lead MSL. Nate Friedman, the former GitHub CEO, will co-lead the new lab alongside Wang.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So yeah, Nate Friedman and Alexander, Wang, two of the biggest name in AIs, now kind of the one to punch there. Also, Daniel Gross, the former CEO and co-founder of Safe Super Intelligence, Inc. is also joining Meta's new AI superintelligence lab. So my gosh, we haven't even got into all the, you know, the researchers. Just the three of those, Daniel Gross, Nat Friedman, and Alexander Wang. I mean, that's like the who's who in the AI world. So these new hires and also include top researchers and engineers previously at OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Anthropic, and other leading AI firms.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Underscoring Meadows aggressive recruitment strategy. All right, let me name off some of the notable additions. And I'm sorry, I'm probably going to get some of these pronunciations wrong, but, you know, this thing's unscripted, unedited. So here we go. Some of the notable additions that meta has added included Trapete Banzal, a pioneering in reinforcement learning and a leader in the O-Series model development at OpenAI. Su Chau Bai, the co-creator of GBT4O voice mode. Huyn Chang, the inventor of Maskit, sorry, Mask IT at Google Research. Jack Ray, the pre-training tech lead at Gemini.
Starting point is 00:38:02 for Google DeepMind and several others with direct experience building state of the art AI models. Yeah. So what Meta did here is they essentially, and like we've been talking about for the last couple of weeks, they've been quietly poaching some of the top talent from around the globe, specifically going to companies like Apple, Open AI, Google DeepMind and Anthropic and others, and taking some of the top researchers. So, Mata has essentially kind of been lagging behind. And like we talked about, they are taking more of an open approach to AI, which puts them
Starting point is 00:38:40 kind of at a technical disadvantage. But in the long run, it may put them at an advantage, right? Because they could commoditize their competitors, proprietary paid models, if this gamble really pays off. And what's interesting here is meta, unlike companies like open AI and Anthropic, they've been making billions of dollars for more than a decade from their Facebook and Instagram and WhatsApp and just their advertising revenue as well. So meta has straight up cash to play with when it comes to hiring some of the top
Starting point is 00:39:16 researchers where, you know, some of these other more startup companies, yeah, they have money to play with and they have stock options. But y'all, I mean, meta is just Scrooge McDucking this thing. Like, you know, Zuck is literally sitting on a pile of cash and he's not playing around anymore, right? It is kind of interesting to see this dynamic play out in real time. And we've been covering it obviously week by week here. But, you know, if you weren't taking meta's approach to large language models seriously, maybe a couple of months ago, which I think, if I'm being honest, not a lot of companies were, right?
Starting point is 00:39:55 I think a lot of companies were looking at meta almost as like an option B, right? Yes, they're still investing in it. And it's like, hey, what happens if, you know, Open AI 20 X's their prices or what happens if, you know, Google's Gemini, you know, we can no longer use it for whatever reason. So I think a lot of companies were looking at models like Metas Lama almost as a backup or plan B in case their proprietary model of choice for whatever reason was no longer applicable for their business use cases. But now I think meta is trying to change that dialogue.
Starting point is 00:40:29 They've got money to throw. They've got the compute, right? They've got just about more GPUs than just about anyone in the world. And now CEO of Mark Zuckerberg is saying, we're not playing around. We're throwing hundreds of millions and actually billions of dollars at forming the AI dream team. And now the newly minted meta super intelligence labs. All right. Now let's get to our kind of rumors and rants, you know, what's new and what's next. So just bullet points of some new updates that maybe didn't make the big AI news cut.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So perplexity is rolling out a local search version with maps on its iOS app. So kind of try to compete with local Google search. Anthropic has been testing a new model on different platforms, potentially an updated version of Claude 4. Google rolled out V-O-3 access to more Gemini Pro users worldwide, including the EU. The EU had kind of been waiting for that rollout. Perplexity also launched a new $200 a month max plan with increased limits and early access to their comet browser, which looks pretty impressive. We've seen some new hints of GROC for, but still no official launch.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I would be expecting launch. I don't know. You can say any day now, but GROC 3.5 got delayed to eternity. You know, we were told, you know, Elon Musk said that Grap Four would come by July 4th. It didn't. But we've seen some kind of some hints of Grec for in different companies, source codes and benchmarks. So that could be coming any day now. Notebook L.M is testing a new flashcard mode in video overviews as well.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And Google gems are starting to roll out across workplace apps, which is pretty cool. You still have to build the gems inside Google Gemini. but then you can use the gems in things like Gmail, Google Docs, and Google Sheets. All right. That is a wrap, y'all. Let me very quickly recap the AI news that matters. So OpenAI CEO Sam Malman has responded again to Meta's AI talent raid. Then we talked about meta testing proactive AI chatbots that message users unprompted.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Apple is in talks to partner with Anthropic or OpenA. to essentially take over Siri since they couldn't get it right with the newer, smarter AI powered Siri. Cloudflare has blocked and has introduced the capability for publishers to block AI crawlers by default and has launched a paper crawl for web content. The U.S. Senate rejected a 10-year AI regulation, not allowing states to make any AI laws by an overwhelming 99 to 1 vote. So states will be able to legislate AI at the state level.
Starting point is 00:43:22 The New York Times first open AI case has an update as a judge has ordered Open AI to hand over user logs in the New York Times copyright lawsuits, although OpenAI says they're going to continue to fight it. A new study from similar web shows that major U.S. new sites are losing up to 40% of traffic after Google's AI overviews launch. Open AI has expanded its enterprise AI consulting team and are apparently charging a $10 million minimum to work with them. And meta has officially kind of launched and unveiled its roster for its new AI dream team, meta, super intelligence labs or MSL. That's a wrap, y'all. I hope this was helpful for the AI News that matters for July 7th. If this was helpful, tell someone about it.
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