Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - Ep 626: ChatGPT’s new Agent Builder, Apps and 5 BIG takeaways you probably missed

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Starting point is 00:02:01 There, we're going to recap the highlights of today's show as well as keeping you up to date with everything else happening in the world of AI news. let's make this one a fast one. Let's just get straight into it. ChatGPT has a new agent builder, drag and drop. You don't have to be a developer. And that's why I think even though this is called Dev Day, Open AI's yearly conference that they hold in San Francisco, primarily it's usually been for developers.

Starting point is 00:02:32 And even though it's still called Deb Day, I don't think it was actually for developers anymore. So on today's show, I'm going to go over some of the show stopping announcements that I thought, two of them, Agent Kit and Apps. I'm going to talk about the improvements open AI made to the API and how that will impact even non-developers, just your average everyday AI enthusiast. And I'm going to unveil my five biggest takeaways from the day that I think most people missed. So there was a ton.

Starting point is 00:03:04 We're going to be sharing all of the updates in our newsletter today. day and we did drop quite a few of them yesterday as well, but a lot of the updates kept rolling out throughout the day. Let's start with the first one and maybe the one that most non-developers may end up using the most because it actually was kind of a two-pronged announcement. OpenAI announced apps in chat GPT. So this is kind of, well, developers can obviously make them, but we all use them. Think of your iPhone.

Starting point is 00:03:36 Think of how many apps that you use or your smartphone. Think of how many apps that you use. So this is OpenAI, both opening it up for developers, but also for everyone that uses ChatGPT and Open AI actually with another small announcement. They said now they have 800 million weekly active users where it was just in September, I believe where they said they had 700 million weekly active users. So let's talk about apps in Chinese. Chat GPD and then I'll talk briefly about what the heck is the difference between apps and GPTs.

Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm still trying to figure it out, but it looks like GPTs might just be left to die in the long run. So apps right now, well, you can use them to work within your conversations and they work inside of chat GPT. So chat GPT can suggest an app right now when you're talking to it when it thinks that one could be helpful. And it will simply call an app. You can simply call an app by its name to start using it, or you can select it from a drop down. So right now, the way that it works is you have to connect these apps one by one, at least the ones I've been using, the few of them that are available now. There's only a handful of them.

Starting point is 00:04:51 But the end goal is for, well, when there's a lot more apps to chat, EBT, just to kind of seamlessly blend in app usage within your normal conversation. So as an example, using interactive features like maps or presentations. So the first apps that are available now. So yeah, you can go in, log into your chat, GPT, if you have a paid account, and you can connect them now. I've already connected Canva, Spotify, and Figma myself. There's also Zillow that's available now.

Starting point is 00:05:26 Open AI does say that your privacy is protected with a permission prompt before the first use. I did see that. And then after that, it doesn't come up. up anymore. And essentially apps, the big thing and the big difference is it uses your conversations context. So you can be chatting about different types of things. The example that Open AI gave is they were, you know, creating a pitch deck. So they were creating in Canva. And then they were saying, hey, what new locations might our startup operate? And then it used Zillow to, you know, find housing in that location. That was just, you know, one example. But a pretty good one

Starting point is 00:06:01 about how you can carry context over from app to app, which is actually pretty nice. I mean, again, imagine if you could do that on your smartphone, right? If you didn't have to, you know, copy and paste things between different apps, or if your, you know, if your email app just knew what was happening in your text messaging app and it gave you suggestions, right? That would be great. So that's kind of the concept here in Chad Chb-T using the power that is generative AI

Starting point is 00:06:27 in large language models, not just to be able to help you create more useful content, but to be able to use the context and then to be able to work inside of those apps. And they did say that more partners as an example like Peloton and Uber are going to be coming later this year. They gave the example of Coursera. And the big difference with apps and GPTs, if you're confused, I'm still trying to figure it out a little bit. I'm sure more clarity will come.

Starting point is 00:06:54 But in my dealings so far, it's more of an interactive experience using these apps. right, where you can use these GPTs and you can go create a GBT within chat GBT. It's usually more text-based, right? When you're interacting with a GPT, yeah, even Canva has a GPT, right? But it doesn't create anything visually in the app. Essentially, you're working with text. And you can create GPs inside of chat GBT. At least right now, you can't create apps inside of chat GPT.

Starting point is 00:07:30 It is more of a developer tool for developers to create these apps. And OpenAI did say that they will be accepting developer submissions soon. So I don't know if this is going to be quite the same as plugins originally were or GPTs. And I'm also interested in what's going to happen with GPTs. I personally hope they stick around, but we'll see. So what does this mean? Well, like I said, developers can start building their own apps today. And OpenAI did say that they'll have.

Starting point is 00:08:00 a dedicated directory for browsing and searching for apps. And then like I said, once you add the apps, OpenAI will suggest them and surface them throughout the conversation. OpenAI will soon share details on how they can monetize their apps. So we'll see if that ever comes to fruition, right? We heard the same thing when OpenAI announced and really hyped the GPT store. And I didn't really hear or see anyone getting paid off of the GPTs. So I don't know.

Starting point is 00:08:28 Maybe someone did reach out to me if I'm wrong. I didn't really see anyone. But I do think this is different because like I said, it is a richer experience. So, you know, another example is they gave Coursera, right? I made a course on a top ready course on Coursera on Generative AI like three years ago. So you could watch that inside of chat,

Starting point is 00:08:47 GBT, but go through the actual video modules and still have some space on the screen. Right. So what they're doing here is they're really just bringing the web experience. in my, you know, dealing with these apps so far into chat GBT. So just making it more of like an operating system. So apps will also become available for business and education users later. Now the big one grabbing headlines, Agent Kit.

Starting point is 00:09:16 So the Agent Builder is actually part of Agent Kit. But I think the Agent Builder is actually what got so much of the attention from Deb Day. and I think rightfully so because it's a visual drag and drop builder. Right. I'm actually wasn't planning on doing this, but I'm actually going to log into my open AI account right now, my builder account. And I'll show you this right now.

Starting point is 00:09:45 So if you're listening on the podcast, don't worry. You can always watch the video version on our website at your everyday AI.com. So just sharing my screen here. this is the agent builder, right? You don't really have to know anything. It's a drag and drop interface. You can add and delete nodes.

Starting point is 00:10:09 You can, you know, select different models here. So if you've ever used anything like Zapier, N8N, any, you know, visual builder, that's all it is. Right. And it's really powerful that you can build an agent. backed and powered by OpenAI's most powerful models, right? You can use GPT5. You can even use GBT5 Pro. You can use GPD5 codecs, right?

Starting point is 00:10:38 So you can build a lot of different agents for just about any use case using the agent kit. All right. Let's quickly talk about it. So agent kit is essentially a tool kit for helping even non-technical people build helpful AI agents or AI assistance. It simplifies the process of creating, launching, and managing agents and businesses can go launch it now. So you do have to have essentially an API account set up or a developer account set up. So you're not going to find this on chat gvt.com. You actually go to platform.com.

Starting point is 00:11:13 You also do keep an eye on this. You do have to set up billing. Right. I did this obviously years ago. So if you're going to be using these in production, right, they're not free. you know, to test them out. It's not going to cost you anything. But if you're ultimately using these in production, you know, you're going to be paying for the API usage.

Starting point is 00:11:36 And that's the big difference and the big differentiator is, yeah, you can go put these on your website or you can go put these in a web app. And that's the big, one of the big differences, aside from just being able to create agents and agentic workflows on demand without a lot of tech skills. So like I said, the agent builder itself is a visual builder that allows you to design AI workflows using simple drag and drop technology makes it faster and much easier, right, than you would have to if you were, you know, staring at a screen, trying to MacGyver some Python strings together. And then you can easily add that once you're done. And once you can test it, so you can test it in the actual platform there. So like I said, platform. OpenAI.com and then go to the agent builder so you can test it out there. But then you can literally just have it live on your website.

Starting point is 00:12:33 And OpenAI has some pretty clear and easy instructions on how you can do that. The cool thing is, is then you can also manage all of your connectors inside chatypt and all of your data sources from within one central admin panel. So it's not like you have to go, you know, manually build, you know, data pipelines. And that's where the ease and simplicity of chat chibati really shines here with the agent builder inside of the agent kit. There's also new evaluation tools to help test and measure the AI agent's performance. And it also doing it that way allows developers to fix and identify issues way quicker. There's also an open source safety layer that helps protect AI agents made inside of agent kit. from misbehaving according to open AI.

Starting point is 00:13:25 And also there's some specialized training options, guardrails, some other things that, you know, when you think of agentic AI or AI agents, I think we always think about capabilities. We don't think about hallucinations. We don't think about, you know, guardrails. So it's nice that in the first, at least, I wouldn't say this is the first iteration, right, because we've had the open AI agent's SDK now for, I don't know, about half a year. So this is nice that the first more consumer, you know, first kind of non-developer version of this has that built in.

Starting point is 00:14:00 There's also some specialized training options that are available to make the AI smarter. There's also some templates that you can choose from when you go into the agent builder. So very easy, clean. Like I said, if you've ever used anything like Zapier, N8N to build agendic workflow. or whatever, you're going to find this very simple to use and not a huge learning curve at all. All right. Before we get going and, hey, we might actually make 25 minutes this time. Let's quickly pause for a word from our partners.

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Starting point is 00:15:17 Codex, which is essentially the coding kind of IDE from OpenAI got technically official. It became generally available, even though it was previously available. And this helps programmers write and review computer code way quicker. A bunch of companies, you know, OpenAI gave some use cases, but they said Cisco as an example, used it to cut their review times in half. side note we're actually going to have the president of Cisco on the show next week so make sure to tune in for that speaking of Cisco. Also, OpenAI said that the daily usage of Codex has grown more than 10 times since August. I believe Codex was originally introduced back in May. I believe at the time it was only for pro users.

Starting point is 00:16:08 So now it's just a much wider and kind of GA push here. But some new things inside Codex that OpenAI did announce. Now you can ask Codex for help directly inside of Slack. Developers can add Codex's powerful abilities into their own applications as well. And like I said, even in the agent builder, one of the models that you can use is GPT5 Codex, which is a specialized version of OpenAI's most powerful model built specifically for coding. There's also a new DAPCH for that helps managers track usage and monitor the AI's work. And administrators can now enforce safer defaults for their teams.

Starting point is 00:16:46 All right. The next announcement, kind of a big one. SORA 2 is now available in the API. So if you're like, what the heck is that? Well, you have probably heard about SORA2, the ultra viral, but also, in my opinion, kind of brain rot, you know, tool that Open AI pushed out. Don't get me wrong. It's fantastic. But in general, I don't know. I'm not a big fan of social media. I'm not a fan of, you know, endless doom scrolling. So that's kind of, unfortunately, how open AI rolled out SORA. It is an iOS app. You have to sign up for it via the iOS app. It was invoice only. And essentially, it's only AI videos and it's just constant scrolling. Anyways, but the actual model itself is absolutely bonkers good. It is wild to believe that it's

Starting point is 00:17:41 real. Anyways, now that's rolling out to anyone. I would guess that probably by weeks end, there's going to be dozens of third-party AI video platforms that are going to be using SORA 2's API. So as an example, I'm not really as big into the AI video scene as others, but I saw companies like Higgsfield, VED, right? So a lot of these AI video companies are now, well, you can use SORA 2. Well, why would you want to do that? Well, there's a lot of other features in these other platforms that may be right now, if you're like, oh, I wish SORA2 had blank, well, you might be able to get that now in these other AI video tools now that SORA2 is available via the API.

Starting point is 00:18:32 And I did already see within hours more than, I think more than a dozen different AI video the platforms that had support for SORA 2. On the API side, OpenAI said that it is 1080P, so HD resolution and 20-second clips. If you don't know, I mean, SOR2, absolutely crazy. The temporal consistency, character consistency from shot to shot, you know, audio syncing, soundscape, sound effects, its understanding of physics, really, really good. We did cover SORA the other day. If you want to go listen or watch that episode, maybe watch is better.

Starting point is 00:19:14 It is episode 623. All right. A couple other API updates. Just going to go over these quickly. All right. So GBT Image 1 Mini is now available in the API, as is GPT5 Pro. So previously, developers could use GPT5, but not the most powerful. version of it, which is GPT5 Pro. That one is available in the API and got a pretty good hoot and holler

Starting point is 00:19:43 from those in attendance at Dev Day, as well as a new and what OpenAI said was an improved voice model in GBT real-time MIDI. So what this means, again, same thing. Probably between these three updates, hundreds or maybe thousands of apps that you maybe use all day, maybe that you're your company, your business might use, probably good chance that it might be powered now or in the future by one of these three things that I just talked about. So let's, okay, I got, I got my bullet points on the other screen here. So with GPT5 Pro, like I said, now it's API accessible. the most advanced language model OpenAI has for higher accuracy, long context reasoning in complex tax. With GPT Real Time Mini, this is a new updated version of advanced voice mode with lower latency API voice model,

Starting point is 00:20:52 enabling real-time streaming audio for live assistance, also at a way lower cost. So, well, if you need something cheaper or faster, you know, maybe your company wants to provide a voice assistant on your website for your customers. Well, you could have used the old GPT real time, but now the GPT real time mini is a little faster and way cheaper. And open AI says from a quality standpoint, not a big drop off. And then last but not least, you know, all those, you know, super viral AI images that people create all the time in chat, GPT, well, now they're.

Starting point is 00:21:29 I'm making a new version of that available for developers as well in GPT Image 1 Mini Compact Image Generation API model for fast, cost efficient creation and editing. All right. That's what actually happened on the surface, right? You don't have to go watch the 90 minute keynote now. I just told you what you needed to know for the most part. But I do want to talk about now five takeaways that you probably missed. All right. So reading between the lines a little bit here, some things that were said at Deb Day and after.

Starting point is 00:22:12 This one was actually after during a Q&A session after Deb day, where Sam Altman said that profitability is not in the top 10 concerns for OpenAI. I also said this like a year ago. I said Open AI is not worried about profitability in the same way Anthropic is. And I said a while ago, that's one of the reasons why I think Open AI will ultimately beat Anthropic. And he did say that right now their strategy is a space of investment in growth with confidence. They'll build a profitable model eventually. I love seeing Sam Altman say like he said on his personal blog the other day that they have to figure out how to make money with SORA, right, because it's very expensive.

Starting point is 00:22:59 But I think what they're doing here, reading between the lines, they're playing the extreme long game, right? They're not necessarily worried about making money off the average, you know, chat GPT plus user. And another thing I've been saying for a long time, the fact that we can get most of this technology, yes, I know some of the shinier bells and, uh, or, uh, uh, lot of the, louder bells and shinier whistles, you know, might not be available on that $20 a month plan. You might just go to the $200 month plan, but still just the capabilities of these models.

Starting point is 00:23:37 It is a, I mean, we're all stealing, right? Essentially. But what is happening here, they care about dominance. They care about users, right? That's one of the things that they're pushing all the time. You know, you always see these reports about Anthropics revenue going up. You don't see as many of those about opening I. One of the reasons is they're bleeding cash.

Starting point is 00:24:02 But yeah, I don't think Anthropic is ever going to be able to say 800 million weekly active users like Chad GPT just said, right? Open AI is playing the long game here. And I think taking a page out of Amazon's playbook, right? There's so many things in Amazon's, you know, fame. story from bookseller to you can't live without them, that they just lost money along so much of the route just because they were winning users. They were winning trust. They're winning confidence and they're winning the ecosystem. They're winning the platform. That's what OpenAI is doing here. So one big takeaway there. Next one, this is interesting. This event is mainly for

Starting point is 00:24:50 developers. And these developers are, well, they're running startups for the most part. What Open AI just released kind of cannibalized a lot of them. And this happens a lot of times with Open AI. And it's always kind of strange for me, right? When you see these large AI companies, you know, they work with developers to get feedback to make their product better. And then ultimately, this release comes out and they wipe out everything. Right. drawing on Amazon, right, they've been accused of kind of doing the same thing. They see which products are selling. And then Amazon makes their own version, exact version of that product and undercuts them.

Starting point is 00:25:33 So same strategy here. I don't know if there's eventually going to be any uproar in the developer community. But like literally, Agent Kit and the Agent Builder, I've seen hundreds. And I'm not exaggerating when I say hundreds, hundreds of AI startups that essentially they're just using or they were using Open AIs agents SDK and just providing essentially a UI for Open AIs technology. And then they might say, oh, it's for marketers, right? But you're just throwing in a system prompt and a UI and just using Open AIs technology anyways. So opening I kind of just squashed a ton of startups. And it's going to continue to happen.

Starting point is 00:26:27 So I'm wondering if at any point there is going to be an uprising. The other thing that's interesting is I think that with the agent builder, they're taking a direct shot at Zapier at make.com, even kind of workato. You know, it's a huge, this AI automation industry, a huge $8 billion market. All right. Number three, GPT5 Codex, I think. kind of represents the beginning of the end of traditional programming. And you can say this whether you believe it or not.

Starting point is 00:26:58 Open AI said themselves that nearly every OpenAI PR goes through a Codex review. And that Open AI engineers complete 70% more poll requests per week when they're building with Codex. So it's pretty telling that open, even Open AI said that the majority of their new code that's created is created by codex. And, you know, they are setting the industry standard. Same thing with Anthropic. Anthropic said something similar. If you're not seeing this, you know, if you watch the entire dev date announcement or if you read about it and if you're not being like, yeah, this is the beginning of the end of traditional programming. I'm not saying it's the end. It's the beginning of the end. And why? Right. The technology's been out here,

Starting point is 00:27:47 blah, blah, blah, right? You know, you can make the case for. for Sonnet 4.5, which may be a superior coding model. We'll see how the benchmarks come out with GPD5 Pro, GPD5 codex, etc. But I think ultimately the users, that's where the long term gets played out. And Open AI comes with the users. So when Open AI creates something new, a new innovation, a new technology, they're actually the ones pushing the envelope here. And the envelope has been pushed, I think, with codex and its impact on traditional software

Starting point is 00:28:27 development. Number two, ChadGPD wants to be your operating system. And this might be the death of the web. We've already talked about this, not just with the AI Answers Engine's deep research, right? I use deep research now so much more where I used to just have to go to 20, 30, 40 websites to do my own research. But now with apps, I mean, we are bringing the entire app experience inside Chad GBT. Right.

Starting point is 00:28:54 We didn't hear any, you know, any new news on their reported forthcoming agentic browser, right? But they're literally bringing entire website experiences. Look at Coursera. Look at Zillow. Right. They're literally demoing, oh, a Coursera video playing. And then ChatGBTGPT takes notes on it for you. And you can talk with ChachypT.

Starting point is 00:29:16 GVT about the video that's being played inside of the Coursera app in chat GBT in Zillow, right? You can search Zillow and search with natural language. Oh, find me something in the western Chicago suburbs with a pool that's, you know, less than $800,000 and within a half mile walk to a park, right? You can literally just with natural language interact with Zillow without ever having to go to SILO. Same thing, Canva. You can create and edit and iterate slides and designs in Canva.

Starting point is 00:29:54 In Canva, much different than their Canva GPT or even the Canva connector. The Canva app brings the experience inside of ChatGBT. But I think this is also the beginning of the end of, well, the death of using the web. Open AI wants to be your operating system. So they're bringing as much as possible. into their platform. Why? Well, they're rolling out this whole checkout feature thing, right?

Starting point is 00:30:22 Again, going the Amazon route, but more importantly, the Apple route, which brings us to number one. The number one thing I think people overloaded is the real, and I think it became very apparent after Dev Day. In OpenAI's mind,

Starting point is 00:30:39 I don't think they're going after Google or Microsoft. I think they're going after Apple. Right? Because look, Apple has dominated on the software side. The software side led to their hardware sales. If you look at the history of Apple. And that created ultimately users, which created ecosystem lock-in. That is the same playbook that OpenAI is taking. They are crushing everyone else, even Google,

Starting point is 00:31:11 even though Google is taking shares back from Open AI. AI and others, I don't think anyone will be able to catch Open AI anytime soon if the current pace keeps up unless something drastic changes. And this, we've talked about on the show before. You know, Open AI has reportedly hired dozens of hardware engineers from Apple. The partnership with Apple designer, Johnny Ives, the direct relationship with suppliers. They're going after AI hardware, but they're first doing it by winning the quote unquote software game and winning the user games. And I think the end goal here, and we're starting to see it with the apps in creating

Starting point is 00:31:59 the ecosystem lock-in. So when you bring the apps inside chat, you betty, but then you also bring the payment gateway, the agentic payment gateway and being able to check out and buy things, you know, from from Etsy or Shopify, which that's what's live. now into chat gpt not only are they creating lock-in and trying to kill off the traditional web well they're going specifically after apple so maybe sam altman is steve jobs too or that's what he's going for um although i really think he should have wore the double uh popped collar polo uh on death day all right so that's a wrap y'all uh all right we didn't get to 25 minutes but not too bad right

Starting point is 00:32:45 So if you miss Deb Day, we just wrapped it all up for you. We talked about what I think the two big things are, Chad Chb-T's new agent builder. So even if you are not a technical person, you can go in there and a drag-and-drop canvas and start to build an agent that you can deploy on your website, Chad-TBT bringing actual apps in the UI, the user interface of different apps into Chat-GVT. and then I went over five pretty big takeaways that I think most people missed. And hey, podcast people, can you do something for me? If you're listening on Spotify, I'm actually trying something. I'm putting a poll in there, putting a poll on our Spotify.

Starting point is 00:33:25 So scroll to the bottom of the show notes. All right. And let me know, do you want to see an episode maybe later this week going over in more depth? Do you want apps? So chat GPT apps or the chat GPT agent builder. So go check out that poll. Let me know. Also, live stream audience.

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Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - Ep 626: ChatGPT’s new Agent Builder, Apps and 5 BIG takeaways you probably missed

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