Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast - Ep 631: AI’s App Store Moment? Are ChatGPT’s Apps The Next Big Thing or Smoke and Mirrors?

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Will this be AI's 'App Store Moment'? 🤔OpenAI's Apps are live, and the consensus is split.Some are calling them a revolutionary step forward while others are saying it's an...other marketing flop.What's our hot take?Join us and find out.AI’s App Store Moment? Are ChatGPT’s Apps The Next Big Thing or Smoke and Mirrors? An Everyday AI Chat with Jordan WilsonNewsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion on LinkedIn: Thoughts on this? Join the convo on LinkedIn and connect with other AI leaders.Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTopics Covered in This Episode:ChatGPT Apps Launch: App Store MomentOpenAI's Integrated Services: Spotify, Canva, ZillowChatGPT Apps vs. Plugins vs. GPTsGraphical User Interface in ChatGPT AppsProductivity Benefits of ChatGPT App IntegrationsDeveloper Opportunities: Apps SDK & MonetizationEnterprise Adoption Potential for ChatGPT AppsInitial Seven Apps & Usage StatisticsChallenges: Responsiveness, Functionality, User ExperienceOpenAI's Third-Party App Submission GuidelinesMedium-Term Outlook: Short-Term Flop, Long-Term SuccessCritical Role of Developer Incentives & MonetizationTimestamps:00:00 "App Evolution: iPhone to ChatGPT"05:25 "AI's App Store Moment"06:38 "App Setup for ChatGPT Users"10:38 "ChatGPT Features and Use Cases"15:54 "App Launches and AI Critique"19:49 Interactive Apps with Web Integration21:22 "Preparing Apps for GPT Integration"23:59 "AI Adoption in Software Evolution"27:09 "Rushed ChatGPT App Launch?"31:16 "OpenAI Needs to Pay Developers"34:08 "Watch, Read & Learn AI"Keywords:ChatGPT apps, AI app store, OpenAI, App Store moment, ChatGPT plugins, GPTs, ChatGPT connectors, ChatGPT SDK, Anthropic model context protocol, AI operating system, integrated services, drag and drop agents, third-party app ecosystem, developer submission process, app monetization, enterprise security, interactive user interface, GUI in ChatGPT, personalized business workflows, digital tasks automation, context engineering, hands-on demos, API updates, Send Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Start Here ▶️Not sure where to start when it comes to AI? Start with our Start Here Series. You can listen to the first drop -- Episode 691 -- or get free access to our Inner Cricle community and all episodes: StartHereSeries.com Also, here's a link to the entire series on a Spotify playlist. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Everyday AI Show, the everyday podcast where we simplify AI and bring its power to your fingertips. Listen daily for practical advice to boost your career, business, and everyday life. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live in Adobe Firefly, the All In One Creative AI Studio. Just describe what you want to create and the assistant handles the rest, orchestrating multi-step workflows across Photoshop, Premiere Express, and more in one conversational interface. You direct the outcome. The assistant accelerates execution. Do you remember using a smartphone without apps?
Starting point is 00:00:48 So I don't know if you remember this, but there was a period for more than a year after the original iPhone launched where there weren't even apps. So imagine today using an iPhone without apps and maybe how useless that phone would feel. Maybe in one year or two years or five, we might feel the same way about chat GBT and say, hey, do you remember when Chad GPT didn't have apps and how little work we were actually
Starting point is 00:01:19 able to accomplish? Well, we'll see if that's the case or if this is just another kind of failed experiment from OpenAI. Plugins didn't quite take off. GPTs weren't the next big thing. So what about now that OpenAI has recently unveiled their apps? Is this the true App Store moment? Or is this just some smoke and mirrors and the latest marketing toy from Open AI?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Well, we're going to be digging in to that on today's Hot Take Tuesday edition of Everyday AI. What's going on, y'all? Welcome to Everyday AI. My name's Jordan Wilson. I'm the host, and this is your daily live stream podcast and free daily newsletter, helping everyday business leaders like you and me make sense of all these worldwind of AI updates and how we can leverage all this information to grow our companies and our career. So if you're constantly looking at chat chitin and saying like, what can I do?
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Starting point is 00:02:36 But let's get straight into today's episode. Open AI at their dev day about a week ago unveiled a lot of things. And actually, I think it was apps that maybe got the least love or the least attention. They unveiled drag and drop agents. They unveiled and released new updates in their API. So millions of developers could start adding new functionality. But then they released apps. And eventually, the apps SDK that will allow millions of developers to bring native experiences inside of chat, GBT.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So if you want to know a little bit more, we're actually going to be going hands-on. So if you are new here, Mondays, we do AI News That Matters. Tuesday, hot take. I'm going to give you my hot take on this here in a couple of minutes. And then Wednesdays, we do more of at work on Wednesdays, putting AI to work. So tomorrow, we're going to be doing some hands-on demo. But today, we're going to be talking about how chat GPD apps work and kind of what they are. We're going to cover the marketing behind it, but also cut through the hype.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I'm going to dish my final hot take on if this is an actual big future move or if it's just another feature bound to die eventually RIP chat GPD plugins. And last but not least, I'm going to give you my hot take and explanation on why I ultimately think chat GPT apps will be a short term fly. but an absolute long-term home run if OpenAI does this one thing that they failed to do. All right. If you did miss all of the OpenAI dev day announcements, make sure you go listen to episode 626. We cover that all in depth. But chat GPT apps are here. If you have a free plan, a paid plan, they're there.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You may not have even noticed. But don't worry, I'm going to show you everything, how to enable them, how they work, and really the fundamental shift that this could represent emphasis on could. You know, depends on how these are ultimately rolled out, how they're adopted, and also the information and education that chat jebtee continues to pour into this. So here's the bullet points. If you missed it, you've took a nice vacation on a yacht in Greece and maybe missed the last week or so. here's what you need to know.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So OpenAI launched chat ChbD apps with integrated services out of the gate like Spotify, Zillow, Canva, Figma, and others. Their strategy essentially is to transform Chad ChbT into a universal operating system for completing digital tasks. So again, in the same way like you can run a lot of your day-to-day business operations on your phone, unless you have fat fingers like me and can't type, right? But that's kind of the hope and the long-term goal with, Open AI is one of their initiatives, bringing full, working, essentially web experiences inside of Chad GPT without ever having to leave. It's built on an open protocol, the Model Context Protocol from Anthropic for interactive user
Starting point is 00:05:50 interfaces and enterprise security. Developers, huge opportunity out there, 800 million weekly active users that's reported by Open A.I. Also, Goldman Sachs separately projected that this is a. a $15 to $25 billion markets. Also, there's a lot of two sides of this when it first came out, right? A lot of media coverage and people on social media talking about how this is now AI's App Store moment, let alone Open AI's kind of App Store moment.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And others are, well, no, this is just a startup killer. Or this is another piece of marketing from Open AI that may ultimately flop or may not take off just like plugins and GPTs. So how can you get your hands on it? Who can use it? So right now, whether you're on a free plan, paid plan, doesn't matter. But any individual plan will have access to apps. So it's going to be a little different how you access them,
Starting point is 00:06:54 depending on what type of plan you're on. But you should have a little plus icon. And then an option once you do click that plus icon to go to add sources, okay? And then from there, you'll go click, connect more. And then you'll scroll to the bottom in your settings and you should see something that says browse apps or you can just go directly into your settings in your chat, ChbT account again for personal accounts only right now.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Look on the left hand side, apps and connectors and then browse down to apps. All right. So you do need to one time individually install and at times, authorize these if you are connected to one of the seven apps that launched on launch day that requires you to have an account also in the future there's going to be paid apps uh free apps service fees right just like in the full you know apple iOS app store but right now all the apps from launch are free but you do have to have an account like as an example canva uh and uh if you are in the uh european uh union uh switzerland
Starting point is 00:08:03 UK, etc. Support is not out yet. Also, if you're on a business plan, enterprise plan, education, the rollout has not fully happened yet. That will be for later this year, alongside once OpenAI does unveil the developer submission process. So yeah, right now, there's no,
Starting point is 00:08:24 mom is the word on monetization. We still don't even fully have the process for developers to submit an app for approval. but we should be getting word on that soon. So let's talk about a couple examples in how these work now. So one of the biggest differences in one of the newest pieces of utility that come along with apps. And I'm going to go over later kind of the difference between apps and connectors and GPTs, but I want to focus a little bit on apps.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So the biggest thing is it essentially brings in a graphical user interface or GUI of, these seven websites. And you might say, okay, well, why? Why wouldn't I just go to Spotify? Or why wouldn't I just go to Canva? We're going to talk about some of the stats and some of the results. But I think internally, I saw a 70% increase in productivity doing things within chat, GPT versus, you know, doing things separately on these other apps. And when you think about it, it actually makes a ton of sense. And a lot of this goes to context. There's been all this buzz recently about the terminology context engineering, right? Which not trying to brag.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I've technically been teaching context engineering before anyone was talking about it, but that's another story for another day. But essentially what this means is this allows all of the apps within chat chbt to understand and work with your context within the chat window that you're using. So you don't have to re-describe anything. So think, let's say Canvux. It's a great example. And probably one of the use cases that I'll tackle on to,
Starting point is 00:10:03 tomorrow's AI at work Wednesday show. But let's just say that you're using chatGBT to pre apps. You're using chatGBT to build a Canva outline. Right. Ultimately, what you still have to do is you have to go copy and paste all that into Canva. You have to find a template that works, right? You have to resize all the fonts, bring in your colors, all those things. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Now, well, you can just, if you're doing a deep, research, if you're, you know, bringing in information from connectors, you know, bringing in your own data, working in your context of a chat, you can just then call on the Canva app and just be like, hey, buddy, turn this into a 10 page deck for me. And within a minute or two, it's there. You don't have to copy and paste. You don't have to switch between apps. So that's ultimately what chat chit or open AI is trying to do.
Starting point is 00:10:58 They're actually trying to make this an AI operating system and bring all of your day-to-day business processes inside of these apps. Pretty big deal, right? And we're going to talk later about, you know, some of these new features that Open AI has been rolling out that just happen to make a lot more sense now, right? Like a checkout page inside OpenAI, but a couple, or sorry, inside of chat ChbT, a couple use case examples, though.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So let's say, and some of these are based off of Open AI's demo and some are. So, you know, let's say you're that inside Chatsypte, you've been discussing moving to Pittsburgh, right? And then something about a dog walk. And then chat ChbT remembers the context. And then it'll surface results if you're using the Zillow app. And you could say, and it might suggest something next to a dog park. Right. The example that I just kind of gave, if you're working within Chatsybt, maybe you're working in canvas mode and you're iterating in body. By the way, canvas mode, if you haven't used it, so good, right? But maybe you're using canvas mode in iterating with Chad ChbT to get kind of that outline just right. Well, now,
Starting point is 00:12:03 You can just, you don't have to do anything, no copy, paste. You just call on the Canva app. So you can use the at symbol. Bring up Canva app once you have it installed and just say, turn this into a deck, right? And then you can iterate on it conversationally with natural language. That's another huge thing. Another example, one that I tested out and I really like. You can with a Coursera app.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Also, by the way, I know a lot of people are asking like, hey, Jordan, like your Coursera course. It's so old. Don't take it. Um, it's like three years old. Uh, but if, if you're watching a Coursera course, that's not three years old and outdated, um, it's great because you can actually pause and just say, explain this concept to me. And it just knows. It knows what you're watching. It understands the context of the video.
Starting point is 00:12:50 The other thing that I've been testing out, which is really cool, um, calling on the Coursera app after you've already been having a conversation, um, inside chat, chad GPD. So it has this kind of preloaded context before you even start watching. a video. So then you don't, if you're in the middle of it, you don't have to pause and type out a big paragraph or dictate a big paragraph because it has the context of whatever you're working on. That's great. Just saying, explain this concept deeper without ever having to leave the player. So why? What's the point? Well, this is Open AI's technically third attempt at creating essentially an ecosystem that allows you to connect to third parties. The first one, Chad Chb-T plugins. They came and they went. By the way, I loved plugins.
Starting point is 00:13:37 We taught something called plugin packs. I literally don't think anyone at OpenAI ever realized what they had because you could use three plugins at a time. This was technically the first agentic features of Chad Chb-T before that it had a reasoning model because you could share the context between three plugins at once and it would pass the context on. Anyways, Plugins came and went, right? And then in, I believe, November 2023, OpenAI made a big splash with the GPT store. And at the time, a lot of the headlines were saying the same thing. Is this the App Store moment?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Right? And OpenAI made a lot of lofty promises. But what happened? Well, OpenAI pretty much ignored. GPTs. It went a year and a half without any major updates, right? finally, it was about a half year ago that they finally allowed GPTs to use, you know, newer models because previously, you know, you could only use the much older GPD 40.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And finally, before GPD5 came out, they said, okay, you can use the O3 models. So this is technically their third iteration. And I mean, we'll see what ultimately happens with GPTs because they have the GPT store. And the good thing is, well, the good thing about GPTs is also the bad thing, is it's so easy. to make a GPT. You can make a GPT in literally about 20 seconds and it can be okay. But the problem is the GPT store got flooded with garbage because I'm not a mathematician, but 99.999% of everything in the GPT store is hot garbage. Very little utility because the bar for entry is so little. Conversely, plugins, most plugins were of decent quality because it was difficult to get a plugin
Starting point is 00:15:26 approved. And you had to have a little bit of technical, some technical chops. So we'll see ultimately where apps lands and what the future is for GVTs. But the goal is for OpenAI to move beyond and to use apps to move beyond just chat tbt being an AI chatbot. And they're trying to become the operating system in the AI era. So some of the apps available today and reported some of these stats so far based on those app usage from pre-launch testing. So Canva reportedly delivers a 400% faster design creation. Zillow processes 2 million queries daily with 500% conversion improvement using the ChedGPT app. Coursera serves 300 right now, not in the app, but Coursera serves 300,000 students weekly with a 60% higher course completion rate than traditional methods.
Starting point is 00:16:23 also Spotify, Figma, Expedia, Booking.com, complete to kind of the launch of the initial seven apps. There's also 11 more on the way. We don't have an exact launch date for the rest of these apps. But we do know that DoorDash, Instacart, Uber, Open Table, the Fork, Target, and Peloton are on their way, as is, all trails in TripAdvisor. Sign note, I'm tired of, like, all these AI companies. when they're demoing something, like, you know, oh, watch this agent, you know, buy your tickets for the concert or book your travel. Y'all, can we just start doing business use cases when we launch these products?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Anyways, we don't know yet how or when third-party developers will be able to submit their apps, But Open AI did release first set of guidelines, essentially what developers have to do in order to submit those. But we don't know how or when they will be approved. We did just hear that they'll be releasing that later this year. So right now, here's how they work, right? If you want to know what's going on under the hood, well, they're built on the MCP standard, which enables developers to define both logic and the interface.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The first use, like I talked about, the first time you use one of these apps. You do have to connect and consent to it first, right? Go over the privacy policy, all that good stuff. Sign away your firstborn. Not actually. That's just a joke. And also, the big difference, apps render an interactive user interface in the chat. So it does feel kind of like you're using, I mean, different apps I've used, I think five
Starting point is 00:18:11 of them so far. Different apps have a different level of like reflecting the web interface, right? I think Zillow pretty good. Spotify, it's just more of like a, you know, a very slim-down version of what you might get in Spotify. So if you're like me, you're probably thinking, wait, didn't Open AI just release these connectors? A couple of months ago? And what about GPDs? What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Because even Canva is a great example. Canva has a connector. Canva has a GPT. and Canva has an app. Well, by this time, Canva's GPT is pretty much useless now, although previously it was kind of valuable. So Canvas GPT previously, you could give it some information and it would kind of create a design for you,
Starting point is 00:19:07 but not in the interface. You had to click to see it and it would open up a new window. It sometimes worked, but mainly didn't, right? So Canvas, GPT specifically great in theory, but that's not really what GPTs are for. So let me just kind of go over some of the differences. Well, actually, no, let me finish this Canva piece. So Canva's app, great.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I think it's one of the best, shiniest use cases of the seven that they announced that are available. And then Canva's connector, conversely, something I use all the time. I love doing deep research across my Canva. I know that's weird, but I've done 630 podcasts and each and every one of them has a little Canva deck that I show on the live stream.
Starting point is 00:19:48 just with some notes and some bullet points, right? So I use the connector. I can ask deep questions across. So 600, some of them are 20 pages. So, yeah, 1,000 plus pages of CanvaDox. So the connector can just grab in all this information. And it's almost like a database. And then the app, obviously, you can make and iterate and see and view designs in the app.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And we'll go over that one tomorrow. I think that will be one of our three use cases. So essentially, the apps embed a rich interactive user interface that you can interface with directly in the chat. So you can interact with actual website graphical interfaces and work with your context. Some, I mean, we'll see, but like, I don't know, like the booking ones, you know, the booking.com one, it's like doesn't really do too much for me. You know, it shows you examples and then you click, oh, like this hotel in Chicago looks great. And then it clicks and it just opens up a new tab. So some have great front to end user experiences, some not so much.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But they all do have an option to essentially hand off or continue in the actual website. So connectors, like I said, these just securely bring in your personal data into conversations for personalized answers. So connectors are kind of like a mini miniature version of retrieval augmented generation. And then custom GPTs. These are just kind of personalized versions of chat GBT that you can modify with text. Right. So that's kind of the difference. But let's talk about the potential.
Starting point is 00:21:32 All right. Because with the apps, we'll talk to our developers here for a second. Open AI did also release in apps SDK. So they did release the platform for. developers to build on top of. And right now, they did say that over 50,000 developers already registered within the first few weeks. So later this year, submissions should be open, right? So if you are a larger organization, here's what you should probably be thinking of. You might want to essentially build an app, maybe of your internal database,
Starting point is 00:22:07 maybe of your website. If you have a comprehensive website, let's say that you're an e-commerce brand, let's say that you're a brand that puts out a lot of, a company that puts out a lot of information online, you might want to convert this into an app to bring both for your customers and maybe for your own internal employees.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I mean, we'll see some of the use cases, but submissions, we should know more later in this year about how that works as well as, how they will be displayed within chat dbt for app discovery it does seem it's going to be similar to the gpt store where there will be categories i mean we'll see if organizations once this does roll out to the business tier previously called teams the enterprise tier all that if there will be apps specifically for just enterprises so i would think they will since they have that for GBT's and I can see a lot of big use cases for that, especially for organizations that have
Starting point is 00:23:08 technical departments, but there's especially, especially for companies that use some sort of proprietary piece of software that's specific for a their their niche or vertical. I mean, to be able to work with that context inside chat GBT with natural language is huge. This could be the future, right? This could be the future, right? Think of a CRR. Right. And some CRMs are super clunky.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I remember the early days, like using pipe drive, like very early. I would have to like read all these long help docs just to figure out like how to make, you know, an update to an opportunity or something. But imagine sometimes, even when you're working with today's apps, all the duct tapes, all the duct tape that you have to put together to make something work the way you want it. You know, customizations. A lot of companies pay extra. or have developers build on top of their current software. Well, imagine if it just worked with your natural language inside chat chit those pieces of software that you use.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I do assume probably any huge enterprise piece of software, your email marketing tools, your CRMs, they're going to have to go inside chat chadipt apps. I don't think they're going to have a choice because what's going to happen? I think some of the more AI native organizations are going to do that, right? So let me take as an example. If you sign up for our email newsletter, we use Beehive, right? Great.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Previously, we used MailChimp. I would assume a company like Beehive would probably be early to adopt something like this. And they're growing and they're making everyone else in the industry sweat. I would assume even the legacy players are eventually going to have to bring. their apps in. It's the same thing with the, like the iOS app store. There's no big enterprise piece of software out there that doesn't have an iOS app, right? You can't not.
Starting point is 00:25:17 So I do think eventually if Open AI does this the right way, and I'll give my two cents hot take on this at the end, everything's going to have to move in there. And I do think ultimately we're going to see Anthropic, Google and Microsoft FollowSuit. Adobe just introduced an entirely new way to create, bringing the power and precision of its creative suite into one conversational experience. Meet Firefly AI Assistant, now live in the Adobe Firefly app, the all-in-one creative AI studio.
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Starting point is 00:26:46 See it today at firefly.adobie.com. So here's been some of the good vibes so far. Venture Beat, you know, just kind of going over some of the media coverage. Venture Beat called this the new app store with a vibrant interactive platform. Forbes said that this is the, this actually makes Chad GPT the next big broadband. as a primary interface to the internet. TechCrunch praise the integrations, feeling native to the medium
Starting point is 00:27:20 with 800 million users, obviously, inside chat chadipt. Some of the downside. So artificial ignorance argued that agent kit, so something else that they launched on Debday is probably a startup killer. And that one's interesting because OpenAI releasing a lot of things that are viewed as startup killers, even though a lot of their developers and some of their big account holders are developers.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Anyways, Bloomberg describes some of the early apps as underwhelming and sometimes frustrating. And I agree with that. Some problems with responsiveness and functionality issues. Yeah, it's buggy. Some of the apps work well, some not so much. And then Wired in their article did remind readers that Open AI previously attempted this with GPTs and that did not achieve widespread success two years ago. So here's my final hot take.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You're not going to hear hardly anything about apps until you do. This is one of those instances with Open AI. Maybe it's because they wanted to unveil this during Dev Day. right i think just releasing what they released in the API they released gpt5 pro access sorra 2 a new real-time model and then they released agent kit drag and drop agents right so i don't know why rush it seems rushed why rush chad gptaps with only seven apps now and 11 apps later and developers not even necessarily knowing how to submit their apps or when, right?
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's almost like you only get one shot at the grand opening. So I don't know, maybe there's a, I'm sure there's a rationale behind this. I'm sure they used, I don't know, GBT 7 to plan out there go to market. So I don't necessarily understand this go to market strategy because I think, you know, yeah, there's all this initial coverage and people are talking about it. And then people are just going to forget about it. Because I don't know, unless you're a designer or, you know, in, taking a couple extra steps when, you know, trying to book something, you know, book a hotel
Starting point is 00:29:45 or booking.com or whatever. Most people aren't going to use this. So I do think in the short term, it's going to be a massive flop, right? Because no one's going to care. That's the reality. Long run, it, I think is going to be a massive hit if one thing happens. And here's why. like I was describing, if this catches on, you can't not release a chatGBT app, right? Mailchimp, it's going to have to, right? Big CRMs, they're going to have to. Essentially, if you want to compete in the new business landscape, which is AI operating systems, and I've been super bullish on this before anyone was saying the words, I've been saying it.
Starting point is 00:30:36 people are going to have to bring their services to where the demand is. And Open AI owns demand. According to OpenAI, 800 million weekly users. So that obliterates anyone's, any company's traditional app distribution. No one else, I won't say no one else out there unless you're Google. or so right or maybe Salesforce but no one has 800 million users okay this is i think the potentially the distribution platform of the future if they get this one thing right open AI with the app store they need to be minting millionaires as soon as possible and here's why they fumbled the
Starting point is 00:31:41 GPD store. GPTs are insanely useful. And they still are to this day, right, to almost two years later. Open AI largely ignored GPs, right? And kind of continues to ignore GPTs. And I think the power is immense. And I really hope they don't get rid of them because GPTs, like I said, for small teams that can't go out and build on the, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:09 apps SDK, GPDs, I think, have become essential almost for a lot of companies day-to-day business operations, right? So I hope OpenAI continues to support and maybe promote and improve GPDs. But one thing they did not do that they kind of promised. They talked about monetization of GPTs, right? They're like, hey, developers, go build your GPs and put them on the GPD store. for, you know, and, you know, for our most used GPTs, we're, you know, we're going to share the, share the wealth, right? Do you know how many stories I heard of people getting money from that zero? Zero. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:52 If you look at the iOS App Store in 2024, 5,000 apps earned more than a million dollars. 5,000. Okay. I'm not saying OpenAI needs to make 5,000 millionaires. in 2026, but they need to be handing out money to developers. All right? Because if you want to incentivize everyone to get on board, you need to put your money where your mouth is.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And Open AI, in my opinion, maybe, I don't know, maybe they paid a couple developers for the GPs that they put out on the GPD store. But I remember seeing stories, and we shared about it in our newsletter, of some of the most prominent developers. that had, you know, GPTs that were, you know, top on the GPD store were like, yeah, I haven't seen a penny. So open AI, you have to pay people and you have to make them insanely rich. Talk about a great PR strategy because let's be honest, you fumbled this rollout. Open AI should have waited and had at least a concrete timeline. They should have said,
Starting point is 00:34:00 Hey, October 6th, right? This is Deb Day. We're announcing it, you know, November 1st, you know, you're going to be able to submit your apps.
Starting point is 00:34:09 The, you know, app store is going to launch November 19th, my birthday. Right. So you have a plan, right? Here's how monetization is going to work. You know,
Starting point is 00:34:21 we're going to make money on, you know, fees and paid apps and these things and, you know, developers are going to get, you know, 30% of the right. You don't get,
Starting point is 00:34:30 a second chance to roll this thing out. So you already messed up once. So opening I, if you want this to work, don't mess this up again. You need to make so many people insanely rich, very quick, instant overnight millionaires. Because what that does is it creates this cyclical PR buzz, right? Because now all of a sudden, you're going to start seeing these things on the news. You're going to start seeing, right, these stories pick up everywhere. And then that brings even more and more users.
Starting point is 00:34:58 So you're welcome. Open AI. Do that and this won't fail because let's let's face it. Plugins obviously failed. GPTs for what they currently can do, I think have largely failed because they haven't given them the attention and promotion they deserve. So Open AI third time can be the charm with the app store. This can be your app store moment if you do it right. So far, you haven't done it, but it's not too late. There's my hot take, y'all. I hope this one was helpful. So if you want, make sure you tune in tomorrow.
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