Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - After Election Day-Leveled

Episode Date: November 5, 2020

Presidential elections in the United States are a very big deal. The entire process can take over a year with all the primaries, campaigning, debates, and finally the election itself. Once the electio...n is over and the votes are counted, most people’s attention will turn elsewhere. However, there is a formal process for the election of the president which continues once the election is over. Learn more about what happens after election day on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Presidential elections in the United States are a very big deal. The entire process can take over a year with all the primaries, campaigning, debates, and then finally the election itself. Once the election is over and the votes are counted, most people's attention will turn elsewhere. However, there is a formal process for the election of the president, which continues once the election is over. Learn more about what happens after Election Day on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Fear is the virus is trending on TikTok. vaccines are poison. Then your yoga teacher says that sex traffic children are being sacrificed by satanic liberals,
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Starting point is 00:01:51 photography and to get better images on your next trip, visit Travel Photographyacademy.com or click in the link in the show notes. I'm not going to go into too much detail about how the Electoral College works in this episode. I've already done a full show on that, and if you haven't listened to it, I'd recommend going back and doing that right now. This episode will serve as a bookend, to that show. Here I'm going to go into the real nitty-gritty nuts and bolts about what happens behind the scenes after a presidential election. This process is almost never discussed in the media, mostly because it isn't really relevant to the final outcome, which is what everyone really cares about, and it's not very exciting. So let's start at the point where the voting ends. The votes have
Starting point is 00:02:35 been cast and the polls have been closed. What happens next is going to vary from state to state, and from locality to locality. But there is a general flow that's used. by the National Conference of State Legislatures. The first thing which is done is the unofficial ballot count. This is the number which is usually, but not always, released on election night. This number is usually the same as the final number, or at least very close. It depends on the precinct and the circumstances. The day after the election, poll workers begin to canvass the election.
Starting point is 00:03:06 This includes trying to resolve and count anything which might not have been included in the initial count the night before. This might include absentee ballots and provisional ballots. Provisional ballots are given to those people where there is doubt about their identity or their eligibility to vote. If there is any question, they're given a provisional ballot and it's resolved after the polls close. Outstanding issues resolved during the canvas can vary greatly depending on the year and the precinct. Usually no one cares about this stage because the number of outstanding issues is so small and most elections are not so close that the issues will affect the outcome.
Starting point is 00:03:42 States have canvassing deadlines, which can range from a few days to a few weeks after the election. They also may have different deadlines for presidential voting than for other offices. After the canvassing comes the certification. The certification can occur at the state level or at the local level or both, but it's always someone who is not involved with the counting of the ballots. Often a county will certify their results and send the certification to the secretary, Secretary of State, who will then certify the state election. Any challenges or contested elections have a deadline as well, and they must be resolved before an election can be certified. Everything I've
Starting point is 00:04:19 described you so far you might be familiar with. The next part might be something that you aren't so familiar with. The nuts and bolts of the Electoral College is run by the National Archives and Records Administration, which is an independent federal agency. In particular, it's run by the Office of the Federal Register, which is the department under the National Archives. The Federal Register is the agency that's responsible for cataloging, archiving, and publishing, all of the laws, executive orders, and other official documents of the federal government. They have handled the Electoral College since 1950. Prior to 1950, the Electoral College was managed by the Department of State. Each state must prepare a certificate of ascertainment. The certificate of ascertainment will note the
Starting point is 00:05:06 results of the election, the number of votes each elector received for all political parties, and the names of the electors who will be voting for president. Seven original versions of the document are made, with the affixed state seal and signed by each state's secretary of state or governor. One original and two copies of the Certificate of Assertainment must be filed with the Office of the Federal Register six days before the meeting of the electors, which takes place at each state capital. If you search for a certificate of ascertainment online, you can find copies of these documents to see what they look like.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's a simple one-page document and it looks extremely official. The meeting of the electors takes place in every state capital on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December. Each of the electors must meet in person and sign the certificate of vote. Here there might be some small differences between the states. Some states might allow for the electors to vote in secret. Some require electors to take an oath about voting for the candidate to which they are pledged. Some states also have faithless elector laws which allow them to invalidate any electors who do not vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged. The certificate of vote indicates the candidate who is receiving that state's votes, the number of votes, the names and signatures of the electors, the signature of the secretary of state, and the seal of the state.
Starting point is 00:06:29 In the event that a state allows for multiple candidates to get votes, such as Maynor and Nebraska, or if there is a faithless elector who votes for someone other than the pledged candidate, all candidates which received electoral votes will be listed on the certificate of vote. Here is a direct quote from the 2012 certificate of vote from the state of Arizona, which is displayed on the National Archive website. Quote, To the Honorable President of the Senate, United States of America, Washington, D.C. We the undersigned, being duly elected, qualified, and acting presidential electors for the state's
Starting point is 00:07:04 of Arizona to hereby certify that on the 17th day of December 2012 AD at and within the city of Phoenix, County of Maricopa, state of Arizona, duly and regularly met and convened, and then and there, by the authority of the law in us vested, voted for President of the United States with the following result. Mitt Romney, 11 votes, unquote. There is a similar document for vice president for Arizona as well. The documents can vary between the states, but they all, basically say the same thing. You can view the certificates of vote for each state by searching online. They're easy to find, but pretty much no one bothers to look at them. Original versions of the certificate of assortainment must be attached to the certificate of vote and sent to the following
Starting point is 00:07:50 people. The president of the U.S. Senate, aka the vice president, the archivist of the United States, the Secretary of State for the particular state, and the chief judge of the federal district court of the district where the state is located. There is a deadline for the president of the Senate to receive the certificate of vote from every state. The office of the Federal Register will then work with the President of the Senate to collect the certificates and prepare them for the count. The new Congress will be sworn in at January 3rd at noon as per the Constitution. On January 6th, in a joint session of Congress, the counting of the electoral ballots will take place. The vice president will open the vote certificates and pass them to four members of Congress
Starting point is 00:08:32 who will count the votes. Each chamber appoints two members, one from the majority and one from the minority party. The certificates of vote are read in alphabetical order for each state. Members of Congress are allowed to make objections during the counting. However, all objections must be in writing and must have a member from each chamber sign it. Debate is not allowed during the session. If there is a valid objection in writing with signatures from at least one senator and one representative, each house must debate it separately for up to two hours. This did happen in 1969 and 2005. Both houses debated but didn't agree to reject the votes.
Starting point is 00:09:09 This actually seems like a massive loophole in the law. If both houses agree, they can just invalidate any electoral votes they want and basically pick the president. Of course, the Supreme Court could step in and overturn any invalidated votes, but it's still a massive loophole. Congress does not vote to approve the electoral votes. Once the votes are read, the president of the Senate simply notes the results of the election and adjourns the session. If no one gets a majority of the votes, a contingent election is then held in the House of Representatives where each state gets one vote. You can go and watch the counting of the electoral ballots as C-SPAN has a copy of it online.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Most members of Congress don't even bother to show up. The chamber was half empty when it happened in 2016. If you're a nerd about this kind of stuff, it's actually really interesting. Once the counting of the electoral votes is over, the next step is the inauguration. The incoming president will take office at the stroke of noon on January 20th in Washington, D.C. The vice president is sworn in first and then the president. If you're watching the inauguration, pay very close attention to the time and sink your clock to the atomic clock. the completion of the oath of office is usually under a minute from the stroke of noon.
Starting point is 00:10:26 The Constitution requires that the oath be taken before executing the duties of the president. So in theory, there could be a very short period of time where someone is president, but couldn't actually execute any of the duties of president because they haven't yet taken the oath. While in practice, the oath is administered by the chief justice of the Supreme Court, in theory, anyone could administer the oath of office and it is a moment. specified who should administer it. Calvin Coolidge was sworn in by his father, who was just a notary public. So that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:11:00 There's actually a whole lot more paperwork that goes on behind the scenes than most people realize. But it's those documents that make everything official, and that is how a president is actually chosen. Executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is James Macalach. Please remember to support the show over at patreon.com, where you can get exclusive merchandise and to leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Leave a five-star review to have your review read online.

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