Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - Blue
Episode Date: June 13, 2025Colors are something that we are all familiar with. The colors are among the first things we teach children. What if I were to tell you not every culture has the same colors? By that, I don’t mea...n they have different words for colors, but some very basic colors have no words at all. For some reason, blue is the color that divides many cultures. ….And that isn’t the only interesting thing about blue. Learn more about the color blue and what makes it interesting on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. ***5th Anniversary Celebration RSVP*** Sponsors Newspapers.com Get 20% off your subscription to Newspapers.com Mint Mobile Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at mintmobile.com/eed Quince Go to quince.com/daily for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Stitch Fix Go to stitchfix.com/everywhere to have a stylist help you look your best Stash Go to get.stash.com/EVERYTHING to see how you can receive $25 towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures. Subscribe to the podcast! https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/ -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Austin Oetken & Cameron Kieffer Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/ Disce aliquid novi cotidie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Colors are something that we're all familiar with. The colors are amongst the first things that we teach
children. But what if I were to tell you that not every culture has the same colors? And by that I don't
mean that they have different words for colors, but some very basic colors have no words at all.
For some reason, blue is the color that divides many cultures. And it isn't the only interesting
thing about blue. Learn more about the color blue and what makes it interesting on this episode
of everything everywhere daily.
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I'm going to start this episode of the very simple question.
How many colors are there in the rain?
You can probably quickly answer this question, and your answer would be that there are seven.
You've probably learned the pneumonic device when you were a kid, Roy G. Biv, for red, orange, yellow,
green, blue, indigo, violet. Very simple. However, if you look really closely at a rainbow,
or the spectrum as it comes through a prism, you'll notice that there's obviously more than seven
colors in it. There are gradients and changes between colors. It isn't as if nature had seven
crayons and there are sharp divisions between the colors. We say that there are seven colors
because it makes it easy to comprehend what is happening in the visible spectrum. In Western
languages, particularly English, there are 12 basic color terms that are commonly found. They're
based on the work of the anthropologist Brent Berlin and Paul K. who proposed a universal pattern
in the development of color terminology. These colors are black, white, red, green, yellow, blue,
brown, pink, orange, purple, and gray.
The 12th color is usually beige or turquoise.
These are considered basic because they are monoelexemic,
meaning that they're a single word, not a compound like light blue.
They're not subsumed by another color like crimson as a type of red.
And finally, they're commonly known and used across the speakers of a language.
However, these colors are not universal.
In fact, Berlin and Kay's research found a trend amongst languages.
As languages add colors, they tend to add them in a particular order.
Hunter gatherers often have words for only a few colors.
The first words that any language will have for colors are for black and white,
or more generally, between dark and light.
The Piraha people who live in the Amazon rainforest have no words for color beyond these.
after that the next color that gets added is a word for red.
The fourth word is usually yellow or green, and the fifth color is also yellow or green,
depending on which one wasn't chosen first.
And then finally, comes blue.
There's been an internet rumor circulating that certain colors are unable to see blue,
which is why they lack a word for it, and this is not true.
Even in cultures without a distinct word for blue,
people can still see blue just as well as everyone else.
The difference is linguistic categorization, not visual perception.
However, language does influence how quickly and easily people distinguish colors in tests.
For example, people who linguistically separate blue and green can more quickly differentiate shades between them.
There's another interesting thing, however, when it comes to blue.
Some languages use a single word to describe what English speakers would consider both green and blue.
and this is called the grew phenomenon, which is just a portmanteau of green and blue.
This phenomenon isn't something that just happens in hunter-gatherers. This occurs in some
very developed languages. In Vietnamese, the word sighing refers to both blue and green,
although modifiers can specify which one. Things ya-choe means sky blue.
In ancient Japanese, the word ow used to mean both green and blue, while modifiers
Japanese now distinguishes green, remnants of the old system persist, particularly in the names
given to green traffic lights. The HIMBA people in Namibia reportedly have no single word for
blue, and they use the same term for blue in some shades of green, affecting how they distinguish those
colors and tests. But there's even another interesting thing about how language adopts a word for
blue. There is some evidence of a loose correlation between a language's latitude, particularly
distance from the equator, and whether it has a distinct word for blue. But it's not a straightforward
or universal relationship. The connection is influenced by environmental, cultural, and technological
factors, many of which are correlated with latitude but not directly caused by it.
The big question then is why? Why did words for blue either not exist or were often
lumped with green in some languages.
The rarity of naturally occurring blue objects in the ancient world may have contributed to
their delay in naming.
While the sky is blue, its color was not often linguistically conceptualized as distinct
from white, gray, or black in early literature.
Homer, for instance, never used the word blue.
He famously described the sea as wind dark.
Blue dyes were also historically difficult to produce, and when they did appear,
They were expensive and very culturally specific.
There aren't a lot of blue foods, and there isn't a whole lot of blue in the animal world.
So the short answer is that some cultures didn't develop a word for blue because there wasn't a whole lot of blue in the world that was relevant to them.
And here I want to shift gears a bit and focus on one aspect of this.
The development of blue as a dye and pigment.
There were several colors that ancient people found very easy to create.
Black was trivial.
Just rub the end of a burnt stick against a rock, and you have black.
Ancient people obtained yellow and red colors for rock art,
primarily from naturally occurring iron oxide minerals.
Red came from hematite, while yellow was derived from liminite or girthite.
These minerals were ground into fine powders and mixed with binders like water,
animal fat, or plant resin to create lasting pigments.
Green could be achieved through leaves or other plant parts that contain chlorophyll,
and white could be gotten from chalk if that was around.
In a previous episode, a long time ago, I covered how rare purple dyes were in the ancient
world. They were only created by a sea snail off the coast of Lebanon that were a prized
commodity produced by the Phoenicians. It was so rare that purple became the color associated
with royalty. The color blue was also rare in dyes and pigments in the ancient world because the
Materials required to produce it were scarce, difficult to process, and often expensive.
Unlike the previously mentioned colors, which could be extracted relatively easily from common minerals, plants, and animal byproducts,
blue did not occur frequently in the natural world in a stable or even unstable form.
As a result, achieving a vivid, lasting blue was both a technical and economic challenge.
One of the earliest and most famous sources of blue pigment was Lapis lazui.
Lapis lazuli is a deep blue metamorphic rock that's been prized since antiquity for its intense color and rarity.
Composed primarily of the mineral Lazarite, along with chalcite, pyrite, and other trace minerals,
it's been mined for over 6,000 years, especially from the Sari-I-Song mines in the Badakshan region of northeastern Afghanistan.
The stone was ground into a powder to produce a pigment known as Ultramarine, which was extraordinarily
vivid and durable, but also costly, due to the rarity of the raw material in the labor-intensive
process required to purify it.
Ultramarine was so expensive that centuries later, it was often reserved solely for paintings
of the robes of the Virgin Mary in religious art.
One of the first cultures to regularly use a blue pigment in art was ancient Egypt.
In ancient Egypt, blue pigments were highly valued for their symbolic association with the heavens,
the Nile, and rebirth, and were widely used in art, statuary, and decorative objects.
Because natural blue minerals like Lapis lazuli were rare and costly,
the Egyptians developed one of the first synthetic pigments in history, known today as Egyptian blue.
This pigment was created by heating a mixture of sand, copper compound, such as malachite or azurite,
and lime to high temperatures, resulting in a crystalline substance called calcium copper silicate.
Once ground into a fine powder, it produced a bright, durable blue color that was used to paint
tomb, ceramics, statues, and wall reliefs. Egyptian blue was not only visually striking, but also
symbolically important, representing divinity, protection, and the eternal. It remained in use for over
a thousand years. Other Mediterranean cultures later adopted it as it was the easiest way to achieve a blue
pigment. For textiles and dyes, however, blue was even more elusive. The primary source was
the indigo plant, which grows in warmer climates and produces a blue dye through a complex
fermentation process. Indigo dye is extracted from the leaves of the indigo plant through a
complex process involving fermentation, during which the leaves are soaked in water to convert
a colorless compound into indigo tin, the blue dye. After fermentation, the liquid is aerated to
oxidize the indigo tin, which then precipitates out as a blue paste that can be dried and traded.
This labor-intensive process produced one of the most vibrant and lasting blue dyes known to
the ancient world. India became the primary center of indigo production for most of history,
exporting the dye across Asia, the Middle East, and later to Europe via overland and maritime routes.
The Greeks and Romans used imported indigo as a luxury product, and during the Islamic Golden Age,
knowledge of its production spread further west. By the 16th century, Indigo became a highly
sought-after commodity in Europe, rivaling Woad, a native European blue dye.
European colonial powers, particularly the Dutch, British, and French, established indigo
plantations in the Americas, West Africa, and South Asia to meet rising demand. In colonial India,
British authorities transformed indigo into a major cash crop, often forcing Indian farmers to
growed under oppressive conditions, leading to revolts such as the Indigo Rebellion of 1859.
Indigo's global importance declined only with the invention of synthetic blue dyes in the late 19th century.
The previously mentioned Wode is a plant native to parts of Europe and Western Asia,
and it was historically used as a source of blue dye long before the widespread availability of
indigo. The dye derived from Wode comes from the leaves which contain a precursor to the blue
pigment indigo tin. To extract the dye, the leaves were first harvested, crushed, and formed
into balls, which were then left to ferment. The fermentation process allowed the chemical precursors
in the leaves to break down, and eventually oxidized producing a blue dye, similar in composition
to that of indigo, although generally less vibrant. The Celts are famously said to have used
Wode to paint their bodies before battle, although the historical accuracy of this claim is
sometimes debated. During the Middle Age, Wode became a major industry.
especially in regions like France, Germany, and England,
where towns built their economies around its cultivation and processing.
However, woe dying was messy and foul-smelling due to the fermentation process,
and woe generally produced a paler, less color-fast blue compared to true indigo.
When indigo began to be imported in large quantities from India and the Americas in the early modern period,
it gradually supplanted woe due to its superior quality and intensity.
My guess is that most of you,
you have never given a second thought to the concept of blue.
Yet it's something that some cultures don't even have a word for.
And for those that did, it was extremely rare to use in dyes and pigments for thousands
and thousands of years.
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