Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - Chasing the Impossible: The Enigma of Perpetual Motion (Encore)
Episode Date: January 15, 2025Imagine a device that could supply an unlimited amount of energy. It would solve many of the world’s problems in one fell swoop. Unfortunately, such a device is impossible to build, but that hasn�...��t stopped people throughout history from trying. In fact, to this very day, people still claim that they have created perpetual motion machines, and they keep getting proven wrong. Learn more about perpetual motion machines, or the lack thereof, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Sponsors Mint Mobile Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at mintmobile.com/eed MasterClass Get up to 50% off at MASTERCLASS.COM/EVERYWHERE Quince Go to quince.com/daily for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! ButcherBox New users that sign up for ButcherBox will receive 2 lbs of grass-fed ground beef in every box for the lifetime of their subscription + $20 off your first box when you use code daily at checkout! Subscribe to the podcast! https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/ -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Ben Long & Cameron Kieffer Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Imagine a device that could supply an unlimited amount of energy.
It would solve many of the world's problems in one fell swoop.
Unfortunately, such a device is impossible to build, but that hasn't stopped people throughout history from trying.
In fact, to this very day, people still claim that they've created perpetual motion machines,
and they keep getting proven wrong.
Learn more about perpetual motion machines, or the lack thereof,
on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily.
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The idea of a perpetual motion machine is a tempting one.
and if you know just enough physics to be dangerous, it's easy to think that such a device might be possible.
A perpetual motion machine is, as the name would suggest, a device that can continuously operate forever without any external energy.
As we'll see in a bit, such a device is physically impossible, but for almost a thousand years, people have been trying,
usually creating similar devices over and over.
The first known attempt at a perpetual motion device dates back to the 12th century in India.
The Indian mathematician Bascarra II created a device that became known as the Bascaro wheel.
The Bascaro wheel consists of a series of containers or compartments arranged in a circular fashion around a central axis.
Each compartment is filled with a weighted ball or a liquid, and the weight of the balls or liquid is carefully balanced to produce a continuous rotation of the wheel.
The best way I can describe it would be to imagine that you had a bicycle wheel with heavy weights around the spokes.
As the wheel turns, the weights near the center of the wheel would fall down the spoke to the
edge, providing momentum to move the wheel. As the wheel turned, weights on the spoke near the edge
would fall back towards the center due to gravity. In the theory of perpetual motion, the falling,
moving weights would be able to make the wheel turn indefinitely. One weight falls to provide momentum,
which allows another weight to get into position. This design could also be done with water or
other substances. I've done episodes in the past on a variety of inventions. In almost every case,
I can point to some very early, crudely designed version of the invention and then a series of
improvements made over time which developed into the invention that we know today. However,
in the case of perpetual motion machines, it seems that most people who've claimed to have
created such machines have really just reinvented the Bashkara wheel in a literal or modified
form. And these are generally called overbalanced wheels.
Bashkara might have been the first, but he certainly wasn't the last.
A similar device was designed by the 13th century French architect Valard de Honichhardt de Honekart,
but he never built it.
Leonardo da Vinci made drawings of a similar device.
In Leonardo's drawings instead of straight spokes,
there were curved spokes that looked like the lines of a nautilus shell.
A ball bearing would then roll down each curved ramp from the axis to the edge,
just like with the weights on a Bashkara wheel.
There's no indication that Leonardo ever actually built such a device.
In the 17th century, there were a host of attempts at making perpetual motion machines.
In 1607, the Dutch inventor Cornelius Drebble, who you might remember from my episode on the submarine,
created a device that was a clock that never needed winding.
He demonstrated the device at the court of King James I of England, who was amazed at what he created.
It was cleverly designed, but it wasn't a perpetual motion machine.
It ran on atmospheric pressure changes.
In 1618, the English physician Robert Flood created,
something called the closed cycle water mill. This machine was water which fell over a water wheel.
The turning water wheel then powered an Archimedes screw which brought water up to a higher level
to then fall over the water wheel again. The chemist Robert Boyle, the creator of Boyle's Law,
created something called the perpetual vase. This was nothing more than a container with a tube
that looped around and emptied into it, using the siphoning effect to refill the container
that it came from. In the early 18th century, German entrepreneurs,
Johann Bessler claimed to have built over 300 perpetual motion machines. His machines garnered a
great deal of interest among some of the great minds of his era, including Gottfried Leibniz and Johann Bernoulli.
He would often give public demonstrations of his devices, always making sure to hide the internal
mechanisms so no one could steal his ideas. However, he did allow his devices to be inspected by several
scientists who could find no fraud in his demonstrations. In one demonstration, his giant perpetual motion
wheel was locked in a room in a castle where no one could touch it. It remained locked in a room for
almost two months, and when the door was opened, it was still rotating at 26 revolutions per minute.
He demanded a payment of 20,000 pounds in return for the secret of his inventions. It's now believed
that Bessler was conducting some sort of fraud, although the exact mechanism of how he did it still
isn't known. In the 19th century, there was a greater understanding that perpetual motion machines
were impossible and that they violated the laws of physics.
However, that didn't stop even more claims of perpetual motion from being made.
In 1868, the U.S. Patent Office actually gave a patent to a perpetual motion device that was a type of rotary engine, which claimed it could power a vehicle.
In 1900, Nikola Tesla made a rather vague claim about self-acting engines able to power a machine.
And again, he never explained the concept and never built a prototype.
Perpetual motion claims kept coming in every few years, almost always from backyard tinkerers who,
claimed to have discovered a new type of physics. In 1977, the U.S. Patent Office issued patent number
4,215,330 titled Permanent Magnetic Propulsion System. Two years later, they issued another patent,
U.S. patent number 4,551,4131 for a permanent magnetic motor that didn't require any flow of electrons.
Eventually, the U.S. Patent Office issued a decree that they no longer would grant patents on perpetual
motion machines unless a working model of the device could be provided.
According to their policy, quote, with the exception of cases involving perpetual motion,
a model is not ordinarily required by the office to demonstrate the operability of a device.
If operability of a device is questioned, the applicant must establish it to the satisfaction
in the examiner, but he or she may choose his or her own way of doing so, end quote.
Despite centuries of failed attempts at creating perpetual motion machines, people
are still making claims of having created them today. They almost always come from people who haven't
formally studied science, and then claim that there's some sort of conspiracy to hide the truth that
they have discovered. So why exactly are perpetual motion machines impossible? It has to do with
the laws of thermodynamics. The first law of thermodynamics is known as the law of conservation of energy.
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transferred from one type to another.
and this means that you can't have a device that makes energy.
Many of the devices which appear to actually exhibit perpetual motion
are really getting energy from some outside source.
For example, at the University of Otago in New Zealand
is a device known as the Beverly Clock.
It's been running since 1864, and it's never been wound.
It's an incredibly clever device in a similar vein to the clock built by Cornelius Drebble in 1607.
However, it isn't exhibiting perpetual motion.
motion. It actually runs on changes in atmospheric pressure. There have been several times over the last
160 years when it stopped running during periods when atmospheric pressure was stable. The second law
of thermodynamics is the reason why devices like unbalanced wheels or the closed cycle watermill can't
work. Entropy. Let's suppose you have an unbalanced wheel or some other device that you think will
keep on turning forever. There are going to be losses somewhere in the system. In the case of an
unbalanced wheel as it turns it's going to encounter some air resistance. It might be small,
but it will exist. And likewise, there will be friction on the axle of the wheel as it rotates.
That friction will create a minor amount of heat, which, according to the first law of thermodynamics,
is just being converted from the mechanical energy of the turning wheel. It's entirely possible
to make such a device more efficient. You could place it inside of a vacuum chamber to remove
air resistance. You could create magnetic bearings to reduce the friction of the axle, and you
can make all the other moving parts out of some low friction material like Teflon. All of these changes
could indeed make a very efficient wheel, and it's possible that such a wheel could turn for an
incredibly long period of time. Ultimately, however, the piper of entropy has to be paid. You cannot
create a perfect vacuum, so there will always be minor amounts of air resistance. And you can reduce friction,
but you can't eliminate it completely.
These laws of physics are why no perpetual motion device has ever and will never work.
They are either straight up fraudulent in that there's some sort of external source of power,
thereby putting energy into the system,
or they will eventually stop due to entropy in the form of resistance or friction.
Despite the fact that this is one of the most cut and dried laws of nature that there is,
there probably always will be people who claim to have created perpetual motion machines.
So, if you ever hear claims from someone who says that they've built a device that will
solve the world's energy problems, just remember that you can't get around the laws
of thermodynamics.
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