Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - England, Britain, and the United Kingdom: What's the Difference?

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Located off the Northwestern Coast of continental Europe lies an archipelago of islands that most of you are familiar with.  The thing is, the name of the islands and the names of the places that mak...e up the islands are often used incorrectly.  Moreover, how all the various parts of this archipelago are related to each other is pretty confusing as well. Learn more about England, Great Britain, the United Kingdom, and the British Isles and how they are not the same thing on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Sponsors BetterHelp is an online platform that provides therapy and counseling services to individuals in need of mental health support. The platform offers a range of communication methods, including chat, phone, and video sessions with licensed and accredited therapists who specialize in different areas, such as depression, anxiety, relationships, and more. Get 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Everywhere ButcherBox is the perfect solution for anyone looking to eat high-quality, sustainably sourced meat without the hassle of going to the grocery store. With ButcherBox, you can enjoy a variety of grass-fed beef, heritage pork, free-range chicken, and wild-caught seafood delivered straight to your door every month. Visit ButcherBox.com/Daily to get 10% off and free chicken thighs for a year. InsideTracker provides a personal health analysis and data-driven wellness guide to help you add years to your life—and life to your years. Choose a plan that best fits your needs to get your comprehensive biomarker analysis, customized Action Plan, and customer-exclusive healthspan resources. For a limited time, Everything Everywhere Daily listeners can get 20% off InsideTracker’s new Ultimate Plan. Visit InsideTracker.com/eed. Subscribe to the podcast!  https://link.chtbl.com/EverythingEverywhere?sid=ShowNotes -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Peter Bennett & Thor Thomsen   Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Located off the northwestern coast of continental Europe lies an archipelago of islands that most of you are probably familiar with. The thing is, the name of these islands and the names of the places that make up these islands are often used incorrectly. Moreover, how all the various parts of this archipelago are related to each other is pretty confusing as well. Learn more about England, Great Britain, the United Kingdom, and the British Isles, and how they're not the same thing, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Do you ever climb into bed ready to sleep only to have your mind start racing the moment your head hits the pillow? Thoughts bouncing around, replaying the day, or jumping ahead to tomorrow? That is exactly why Catherine Nikolai created Nothing Much Happens. Each episode is a gentle, cozy bedtime story where, well, nothing much happens.
Starting point is 00:00:59 No drama, no tension, nothing you need to follow closely. Just soft narration, calming repetition, and soothing sensory details designed to help your mind slow down and your body relax. It's not about entertainment. about rest, and millions of listeners around the world use it every night to quiet their thoughts and finally fall asleep. If you've ever struggled to shut your brain off at night, this might be exactly what you've been missing. You can listen to Nothing Much Happens wherever you get your podcasts. Episodes are every Monday and Thursday. This is a topic I figured I should do an episode on because I've referenced it in so many previous episodes, but I've never actually put it
Starting point is 00:01:40 all together in a single package. Many of you are already perfectly aware of of what I'll be talking about, especially if you happen to live on the islands in question. Others of you are probably aware of most of what I'll be talking about because you've absorbed it over the years through osmosis, even though it was never explicitly explained in this fashion. Finally, some of you have probably been using some of the terms incorrectly and didn't even know it. So let's get started by zooming out and looking at the big picture, the entirety of the British Isles. The British Isles are a collection of islands in the Atlantic Ocean consisting of a of over 6,000 islands. The largest island is Great Britain, more on that in a bit, and the next
Starting point is 00:02:21 largest island is the island of Ireland. It also includes the Isle of Mand, the Hebrides, Shetland, and Orkney Islands, as well as a host of smaller islands off the coast of the larger ones. And here I have to address the collective cries which are going out all over Ireland right now over the use of the term British Isles. The British Isles is just one of many geographical names around the world that have traditional roots that are disputed by other countries. These would include such things as the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Japan. In the case of the British Isles, it's muddied by the term British, which is the demonym for people who are citizens of the United Kingdom.
Starting point is 00:03:01 The term British actually comes from the island of Great Britain, which is part of the British Isles. People in Ireland, or more accurately the Republic of Ireland, are not British, even though though they live in the British Isles, and given the history of Ireland, are not keen to be thought of as British. This is sort of like, but a little bit different from the term American being used to describe people from the United States of America, even though other countries are in North and South America as well. The term West Britain was attempted to be pushed on the Irish in the early 19th century, but that didn't go anywhere. There have been alternate names suggested to replace the term British Isles. These include Britain and Ireland, spelled B-R-I-T-O-N, Britain and Ireland, spelled
Starting point is 00:03:48 normally, the Atlantic Archipelago, the Anglo-Celtic Islands, and the British-Irish Isles. However, none of these has achieved widespread adoption, so I'm going to continue to use British Isles, but with the recognition that most Irish people would prefer another term. Zooming in, we can now focus on the Island of Ireland. The Island of Ireland consists of countries, the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. In particular, the part of the United Kingdom on the island of Ireland is Northern Ireland, which is a constituent country of the United Kingdom. More on that in a bit. And technically speaking, the Republic of Ireland is not the official name of the country. The official name of the country is simply Ireland, or in the Irish
Starting point is 00:04:35 language, era. The term Republic of Ireland is simply used to distinguish the independent country of Ireland from the geographic island of Ireland. How the island of Ireland wound up being split into two is the topic for a future episode, as there is a whole lot to that story. But as far as the name, the term Ireland can often be ambiguous, as it can refer to both the island of Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. What you're referring to will depend on context. For example, in some things, both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland act together. The Irish national team in rugby union represents the entire island of Ireland. In the FIFA World Cup, however, the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland
Starting point is 00:05:17 have different teams, but there is no United Kingdom team. The island of Ireland has a single tourism board representing both parts of the island. The Republic of Ireland is part of the European Union, and Northern Ireland is no longer. You can travel between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland and not even notice that you've crossed an international border. So, Ireland is both a geographic island and a country that makes up most of the island. Sometimes the two parts of Ireland work together, and sometimes they don't. Between the island of Ireland and the island of Great Britain is the Irish Sea. In the Irish Sea is the Isle of Man.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I've previously done an entire episode on the Isle of Man, so I won't belabor the point, but the Isle of Man is part of the Greater British Isles, but is not part of the United Kingdom, nor is it an independent country. It's considered a crown dependency. It isn't formally part of the UK, but the UK is responsible for things like defense and foreign relations, and the head of state is also Charles III. However, his position as head of state is Lord of Man, not King. Moving east, we get to the main island and the source of most of the confusion, Great Britain. Great Britain is the name of the island, not the name of the country.
Starting point is 00:06:33 This is confusing because, as I mentioned, British is the demonym given to people in the United Kingdom, which, is the name of the country. Actually, the technical name of the country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Adding to the confusion is that Great Britain is often used interchangeably with United Kingdom, even though it technically shouldn't be. For example, when I check reviews from the UK and Apple Podcasts, I have to put GB in the URL, not UK, which really confused me the first time I tried it. The British Olympic team is referred to as Team G.B, which again is a technical misnomer as it really should be Team UK. The country of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland consists of what are known as four constituent countries.
Starting point is 00:07:21 One of the four is right there in the title, Northern Ireland, which I've already discussed. The other three countries are located on the island of Great Britain, England, Scotland, and Wales. And here I should note another confusing thing, the use of the word country. The four constituent countries of the UK are not countries in the sense that they are sovereign nation states. They do not have individual armed forces, carry out their own diplomacy, or sign treaties. Northern Ireland is not a country in the same way that the Republic of Ireland is a country. It's a special use of the term which is only used when referring to constituent parts of a kingdom. The only other place that has constituent countries that make up a kingdom that I'm aware of is the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But back to the island of Great Britain. Another mistake people make is assuming that everyone who is British is English, or that England is synonymous with Britain. Calling someone from Scotland, English is up there with calling someone from Ireland British. England compromises only 56% of the island of Great Britain, 34% of which is Scotland and the remaining 10% is Wales. The reason why these are considered separate countries is historical. Wales and Scotland have Celtic languages and cultures, When the Romans conquered the province of Britannia, they mostly controlled what is today England.
Starting point is 00:08:40 They were never able to conquer Scotland, and Wales, which is very mountainous, was mostly ignored. After the Romans pulled out, Germanic people such as the Angles and Saxons invaded and settled in England. The Angles are the people for whom England and English are named, the land of the Angles. England. Wales was conquered by King Edward I in 1283, and in the 16th century it was formerly, annexed into England. However, it kept a separate identity and managed to keep the Welsh language alive. Despite many wars with England over the centuries, Scotland remained independent. What eventually brought Scotland and England together was the death of Queen Elizabeth I of England. She had no heir, so the next in line for the throne was the Scottish King James VI, who then became James I of
Starting point is 00:09:27 England because they had different numbering conventions. They remained separate kingdoms under personal union, meaning that they had the same monarch. In 1707, the kingdoms of Scotland and England were unified as the single entity known as the Kingdom of Great Britain. So while Charles III today is the king of the English people, there is no title called the King of England. There is a single British Parliament located in London that passes laws for all of the United Kingdom. However, in the late 1990s, a movement towards devolution of powers created legislatures in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. These legislatures have the authority to pass laws which affect their regions, similar to how states and provinces act in the United States, Canada, and Australia. But oddly enough,
Starting point is 00:10:13 there is no legislature just for England. That means that laws that affect only people in England are voted on by members of the Parliament from Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, but the opposite isn't true. This has been dubbed the West Lothian question. West Lothian is, strangely enough, a district in Scotland, not England. The term derives from a member of parliament from West Lothian who brought up the question repeatedly in the 1970s. With 84% of the population of the UK residing in England, it hasn't been a pressing issue. But there has been talk of creating an English parliament or possibly creating legislatures at the regional level in England, which would better approximate the population levels found in the other constituent countries. And just to tie this up, the Channel Islands of
Starting point is 00:10:58 Jersey and Guernsey are often included as part of the British Isles because of their cultural and political ties to the UK. I've previously done an episode on them, but they have the same status as the Isle of Man. They are crown dependencies and not part of the United Kingdom. And geographically, they're also technically not part of the British Isles as they're part of continental Europe. So just to summarize everything, the British Isles is a term dislike by the Irish, which is used to describe all of the islands in the archipelago off of the northwestern coast of Europe. The British Isles consist of two main islands, Ireland and Great Britain. There are two countries in the British Isles, the Republic of Ireland, which really isn't its name, which makes up most
Starting point is 00:11:40 of the island of Ireland, and the United Kingdom, which consists of all the island of Great Britain and a small part of the island of Ireland. The United Kingdom is made up of four countries, which really aren't countries. England is just one of the four countries, and while it is the largest in terms of population and area, not everyone who lives in the United Kingdom or Great Britain is English. So, England is part of Great Britain, which is part of the United Kingdom, which is part of the British Isles. And there are some small islands that are crown dependencies. Simple, isn't it? The executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is Charles Daniel. The associate producers are Thorpe Thompson and Peter Bennett. Today's view comes from listener
Starting point is 00:12:22 disappointed and confused over on Apple Podcasts in the United States. They write, Completionist club member protesting. Gary, over the length of this podcast, you have given me and my wife many interesting facts to talk about and to share with our friends and family. We were both proud members of the Completionist Club, and I would listen while riding my bike with my dog every day after work. And then you released the episode about the Alaskan earthquake.
Starting point is 00:12:44 The earthquake episode shook us both to the core. We are now both questioning everything everywhere daily. The capital of Alaska is not, in fact, Anchorage, as you stated. The capital of Alaska is and always has been Juno. We both desperately need you to correct this so we can trust you again, and we can stop protesting with our signs in front of the completionist clubhouse. Thank you, Gary. Well, thanks, disappointed and confused, and I hate to break this to you, but as a member of the Completionist Club, you should have heard the correction that I issued the very next episode after the Alaska earthquake episode. The correction is at the end of the episode on the origins of baseball.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And moreover, I also made a post to the Facebook group with. the correction just hours after the episode went out. While I do certainly strive for perfection, I do occasionally let things slip through the cracks. Remember, if you leave a review or send me a boostogram, you two can have it run on the show.

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