Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - Reginaldus

Episode Date: January 3, 2021

On Christmas Day, 2020, Reginald Foster passed away at the age of 81 in a nursing home facility in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He had been diagnosed with COVID-19 a few days before. This episode is not nece...ssarily about his passing however, it is about his life, and in particular how he had one of the most unique jobs in the world. Learn more about Reginald Foster, the world’s foremost Latinist, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On Christmas Day, 2020, Reginald Foster passed away at the age of 81 in a nursing home facility in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He had been diagnosed with COVID-19 just days before. This episode is not necessarily about his passing, however. It's about his life, and in particular, how he had one of the most unique jobs in the world. Learn more about Reginald Foster, the world's foremost Latinist, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. What if your perceptions about the past were wrong? throughline is a podcast that takes you back in time to uncover the parts of the story that may have gone unnoticed. It effectively turned day into night and how it shaped the world now.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Time travel with us every week on the Thurline podcast from NPR. This episode is sponsored by audible.com. Today's audiobook recommendation is Long Live Latin, the pleasures of a useless language by Nicola Gardini. What use is Latin? It's a question often asked by those who see the language of Cicero as nothing more than a cumbersome heap of ruins and something to remove from the curriculum. In this sustained meditation,
Starting point is 00:01:21 Gardini gives us his sincere and brilliant reply. Latin is quite simply the means of expression that made us and continues to make us who we are. In Latin, the rigorous and inventive thinker Lucretius examined the nature of our world. The poet Propercius told of love and emotion in a dizzying variety of registers. Caesar affirmed a man's capacity to shape reality through reason,
Starting point is 00:01:43 Virgil composed the Aeneid, without which we'd see all of Western history in a different light. You can get a free one-month trial to Audible and two free audiobooks by going to audibletrial.com slash everything everywhere, or by clicking on the link in the show notes. To understand the mission and life of Reginald Foster, you first have to know his title, Father Reginald Foster. Technically, he was a friar in the discalced Carmelite Order,
Starting point is 00:02:10 although you'd never guess it by looking at him. He never dressed like a monk or a priest. He didn't wear a collar or have a monk's robe. He created his own habit, which was blue overhauls. He looked just like a plumber, which was exactly the point. He came from a family of plumbers, and he took a vow of poverty, which he took really seriously. The original monks wore the robes that they did
Starting point is 00:02:32 because that is what poor people used to wear. Over time, poor people stopped wearing such clothing, but the monks never changed. Today, a monk's habit will cost more than regular clothes, and that's what Reginald objected to. He had very few possessions. Everything he owned could probably fit into a bag, and he always slept on the floor. His dress and sleeping habits, however, are not the focus of this story. Reginald was also brilliant. He entered the seminary at the age of 13. He was not only extremely young, but he managed to get the highest grade point average in the history of the seminary.
Starting point is 00:03:05 The subject he loved most, and the one with which he was most passionate, was Latin. At the age of 16, he was exchanging letters with Cardinal Antonio Baki, the Pope's chief Latinus, and at the age of 20, he became a priest. He wasn't long for being a regular old monk, however. In 1969, Monsignor Almito Todini retired as the head of the Latin letters office, and the Vatican was looking for a replacement. There really was only one choice. It was the brilliant Latinist from Milwaukee who looked like a plumber and slept on the floor,
Starting point is 00:03:38 30-year-old father Reginald Foster. It's here I should describe what a Latinist is and what the job entails. Latin is still the official language of the Catholic Church. It doesn't mean that anyone speaks it as their first language, or that it's even spoken at all within the walls of the Vatican, but that all official documents are written and preserved in Latin. This is a continuation of the way the church documents have been preserved and written for centuries, ever since the days of the Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:04:07 A Latinist is someone who specializes or has expertise in Latin. As the Catholic Church is really the only institution on earth that still officially uses Latin, that means the head of the Latin letters office is, more or less, unofficially in charge, of the Latin language. As the Latinist, he not only had to translate documents into Latin, but he often had to create words for things that didn't exist in Latin. modern things such as airplanes, computers, the internet, automobiles, and telephones, didn't have words in ancient Latin because the objects didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Likewise, he had to find ways of expressing things that might not easily be expressable in Latin, yet he also had to be as accurate as possible in the translation. In addition to papal and cyclicals and other official documents, he also had to translate more mundane things. The ATM machines in Vatican City have an option for Latin, and all the Latin was written by Reginald. In 2003, the Vatican published the lexicon recentist latinitatus, which is the dictionary of Latin words for new terms. This was done because the number one request the Latin letters' office would get from the public was asking for Latin words for modern things.
Starting point is 00:05:15 He had a weekly program on Vatican radio called The Latin Lover, which he talked about the Latin language. He eventually served as the head Latinist at the Vatican for 40 years. He served four different popes and was known to the Swiss Guard due to his dress, as the auto mechanic priest. However, his role as the head of the Latin letters office was only his day job, and arguably wasn't his most important contribution. Centuries ago, getting a higher education degree in Europe basically meant learning Latin and Greek. That was the core of any education, because so much was written in those languages. Moreover, Latin served as the language of the church, and it also served as a universal language for most of Europe. Over time, however, the importance of Latin
Starting point is 00:05:58 waned. French became literally the lingua franca of Europe, and that was eventually replaced by English. Beginning in the 19th century, universities gradually ceased requiring Latin and Greek, as they were no longer relevant for modern research. The church moved away from the Latin Mass in the 1960s, so even priests weren't learning Latin anymore. By the time the 1970s rolled around, the use and learning of Latin had reached an all-time low. And this is where Reginald stepped in. Not only was he one of the greatest masters of Latin in perhaps centuries, but he was also one of the greatest teachers of Latin. In 1974, he began teaching a class at the Pontifical Petristic Institute in Rome. In 1977, he began teaching at the Gregorian University in Rome, where he kept a brutal schedule
Starting point is 00:06:43 for 30 years. He would wake up at 358 every morning, say mass in Latin, grade papers, then go to work at the Vatican. At 2 p.m., he would then go to the university to teach. He would teach 10, 10 semester-long courses every year at every experience level. His greatest contribution to the study of Latin began in 1985 when he began providing summer Latin programs on his own away from the university. The course was eight weeks long and met seven days a week for eight hours a day. Students had a heavy workload and they would often travel to places around Rome where historic events took place.
Starting point is 00:07:21 His students dubbed him the Latinized Reginaldus. He never charged anyone a penny for any of the money. of the programs over the decades he ran his summer institute. Reginaldus's teaching methods were unique and successful as well. Learning Latin for centuries was a very mechanical and dry process. Go watch the scene from Monty Python's The Life of Brian, where Brian writes graffiti in Latin to get an idea. Reginald's belief was that, quote, every bum and prostitute in ancient Rome spoke Latin.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Therefore, anyone could. Many people wonder what the point of learning Latin is. After all, isn't it a dead language? To Reginald, Latin was as useful for traveling as learning French or German. The difference was that with Latin, you could travel into the past. Hundreds of people came through his summer institutes. Eventually, in 2005, the Gregorian University had to fire him because he refused to turn anyone down who wanted to learn,
Starting point is 00:08:15 regardless if they paid tuition. Today, there's now a resurgent movement called Living Latin. In the past, many people who learned Latin might be able to read it, but they couldn't speak it. Now with new technology, there's a growing number of YouTube channels, conferences, college courses, and immersion programs that are done entirely in spoken Latin. You can find clips of movies online that have been dubbed in Latin. All of the Harry Potter books have been translated into Latin. Duolingo has a free online Latin course. Netflix recently released a series called Barbarians, where the Dialogue of the Romans is in actual Latin.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Almost every Latin instructor in the world today can either directly or indirectly link themselves. to Reginald Foster. It's hard to find any other individual who was as responsible for single-handedly shaping an academic discipline. He published his first Latin textbook, Asa Latini Tata Sola,
Starting point is 00:09:08 in 2016. His second book was announced and placed on pre-order just weeks before his death. While the number of Latin speakers in the world today isn't huge, the language also isn't extinct, and much of this can be attributed
Starting point is 00:09:21 to the work of one man. Requiescot in Pake, Magister Reginaldus. The executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is James McAlla. Associate producer is Thor Thompson. Today's five-star review comes from listener Rudy over at Podcast Republic. They write, I really enjoy this podcast.
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