Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - Spy Satellites

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

A reconnaissance satellite, otherwise known as a spy satellite, is somewhere above your head right now, collecting images and gathering intelligence on whatever it sees below it.  Ten countries are c...urrently believed to have at least one spy satellite.  While these satellites can gather an enormous amount of data, they do not have the superpowers that they are often depicted as having in films and television.  Learn more about spy satellites, how they work and how they have evolved over time on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Sponsors Mint Mobile Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at mintmobile.com/eed Quince Go to quince.com/daily for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Stitch Fix Go to stitchfix.com/everywhere to have a stylist help you look your best Tourist Office of Spain Plan your next adventure at Spain.info  Stash Go to get.stash.com/EVERYTHING to see how you can receive $25 towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures. Subscribe to the podcast!  https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/ -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Austin Oetken & Cameron Kieffer   Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A reconnaissance satellite, otherwise known as a spy satellite, is somewhere above your head right now, collecting images and gathering intelligence on whatever it sees below. Ten countries are currently believed to have at least one spy satellite. And while these satellites can gather an enormous amount of data, they do not have the superpowers that they're often depicted as having in films and television. Learn more about spy satellites, how they work, and how they've evolved over time, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. What if your perceptions about the past were wrong?
Starting point is 00:00:46 ThruLine is a podcast that takes you back in time to uncover the parts of the story that may have gone unnoticed. It effectively turned day into night. And how it shaped the world now. Time travel with us every week on the ThruLine podcast from NPR. The idea of a reconnaissance satellite, aka a spy satellite, is one that actually predates the satellite age. In fact, when the idea of an artificial satellite that could orbit the Earth was first proposed, the use case of spying on other countries was one of the very first things that was thought of. Before I go any further, let me say that there is much that we do not know about spy satellites
Starting point is 00:01:32 because much of the information is classified. However, over time, information has been declassified and experts have been able to make educated guesses as to the current state of the technology. The origin of spy satellites actually could be considered to go back to the 19th century. The desire to get reconnaissance on an enemy goes all the way back to antiquity. This usually had to be done via spies or traitors. However, with the development of the hot air balloon, you could send someone up above a battlefield in a balloon attached to a rope to see what the enemy was up to.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Battlefields in the 19th century were still like ancient battlefields insofar as they were rather dense. Men were packed together almost shoulder to shoal. shoulder. During the First World War, things became much more spread out, with front lines stretching out for miles. Moreover, artillery positions might be miles to the rear where artillery rounds could still reach trenches, but couldn't be seen. This problem was solved by the airplane. The first aircraft in the war were actually reconnaissance aircraft. They would fly over enemy lines, and eventually those reconnaissance pilots started shooting at each other. Plains like the SR-71 Blackbird
Starting point is 00:02:42 and the U-2 spy plane were designed to avoid enemy surface-to-air missiles by flying faster and higher than the enemy could reach. The problem was, of course, is that this didn't always work. The whole Francis Gary Powers and the U-2 incident prove that. The idea of using satellites for reconnaissance was first considered in the late 1940s. In a 1946 study, the RAND Corporation proposed the concept of an orbital bombardment system, but the focus soon shifted, to photographic reconnaissance. History would prove the idea to be sound, but the RAND proposal was more than a decade away
Starting point is 00:03:20 from the launch of the first artificial satellite. In 1955, the United States Air Force began researching to the development of a satellite that could view predetermined parts of the earth, quote, to determine the status of a potential enemy's war-making capability. The launch of Sputnik 1 in 1957 changed everything. The Soviet Union launched the first artificial satellite, demonstrating that satellites could reach orbit, and now the theory had become a reality. The Corona program was the United States' first successful reconnaissance satellite project,
Starting point is 00:03:53 developed jointly by the CIA, the U.S. Air Force, and private aerospace contractors. It operated from 1959 to 1972 and was designed to gather intelligence on the Soviet Union and other adversaries during the Cold War. The Corona satellites, also known under the code name Discoverer, were equipped with film-based, cameras that captured high-resolution images of strategic locations such as Soviet military bases, missile sites, and other installations. The first successful mission that returned usable images occurred in August of 1960 with Discoverer 14. Each Corona satellite carried between 3,000 to 16,000 feet or 900 to 4,800 meters of high-resolution specially designed
Starting point is 00:04:38 lightweight film. Corona satellites had very short operational lifespans, typically ranging from a few days to a few weeks, with most missions lasting between 10 to 20 days. The lifespan was dictated by the amount of film available and the need to return it to Earth before the satellite's orbit decayed. Once all the film was used, the mission was effectively over and the satellite would either deorbit and burn up in the atmosphere or remain as space debris. The film was returned to Earth through the use of film return capsules, also called buckets, which were ejected from the satellite at the end of the mission. Each capsule was designed to survive re-entry through the Earth's atmosphere using a heat shield.
Starting point is 00:05:21 As it descended, a parachute would deploy slowing its fall to ensure a safe recovery. Special aircrafts such as a C-119 flying box car and later a C-130 Hercules were stationed in predesignated areas to catch the descending capsules mid-air using a special hook system. Starting with the corona program, each series of satellites were given a designation with the term keyhole. The corona program consisted of keyholes one through four. Physical film worked, but for obvious reasons, it was challenging to retrieve, and an enormous amount of money had to be put into building and launching a satellite for something that would only last a few weeks. The first step towards resolving this problem was in 1976 with the launch
Starting point is 00:06:05 of keyhole 11. This satellite had an electro-optical imaging system. This satellite had an electro-optical imaging system, Real-time image transmission was electrically sent back to Earth using secure digital downlinks. The satellite used an early version of a charged coupled device, which is not too dissimilar from what can be found in modern digital cameras today. The Americans weren't the only ones with the spy satellite program. The Soviets had a program of their own. Zenit satellites were the Soviet equivalent of the Corona satellites. Z-Net satellites were based on the Vostok human spacecraft and were film-based.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yantar series satellites, which began in 1974, and as continued to the present, were the successor to Zenit. It had improved imaging and electronic intelligence capabilities. While there's much we've learned about the Soviet Union after it fell, one thing that wasn't declassified were the spy satellites, because the Russian Federation simply picked up the program. One important thing to understand about optical reconnaissance satellites is the concept of resolution. Resolution in optical spy satellites refers to the smallest object or detail that can be clearly distinguished in an image, typically measured in centimeters per pixel, with higher resolution allowing for finer details to be observed from space. The exact resolution capabilities of current military spy satellites are classified and not disclosed to the public. However, based on available information and expert analysis, it's determined that modern U.S. spy satellites of the key-hundred,
Starting point is 00:07:37 whole 11 series or better can achieve resolutions of approximately 10 centimeters per pixel. This level of detail would allow for the identification of objects such as vehicles and equipment, but not necessarily smaller items or fine details like reading text. So if someone's reading a newspaper on a bench, a spy satellite could not read the newspaper. And for all I know, there's someone working at the National Reconnaissance Office listening to this episode right now who is laughing at me because I don't have a clue of just how powerful current satellites are. There are unconfirmed rumors of a keyhole 12 generation of satellites and even possibly a keyhole 13 generation, but if they exist, they are still classified. In contrast,
Starting point is 00:08:24 commercial Earth observation satellites, which provide imagery for platforms like Google Maps, offer lower resolutions due to regulatory restrictions. For instance, satellite operators and companies such as Maxar and Airbus provide imagery with resolutions of around 30 centimeters per pixel. This allows for the identification of larger objects such as vehicles and buildings, but lacks the finer detail potentially available to military-grade satellites. If you have used Google Maps and have seen images that seem to have far better resolution, you are correct. Many major cities in urban areas have images that are augmented with aerial photography. A misconception that people often have about spy satellites is that the government could just zoom in and look at any point on Earth at any given time.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It doesn't quite work that way. Optical satellites are basically like the Hubble Space Telescope except pointed at the Earth. It's in low Earth orbit and is whizzing by at about 17,000 miles per hour. In a polar orbit, you could schedule a time to look at a given point on Earth, but you may have to schedule it for probably, at least a few hours in advance. And even then, the image would still be subject to cloud cover, daylight, and other factors. Unlike the film The Enemy of the State, satellites cannot provide live video with a bird's eye view because they can't hover in one spot. Optical satellites are not the only type of spy satellite. There are also satellites that eave drop on radio signals.
Starting point is 00:09:57 One of the most recent launches was that of the NRL-44, which stands for National Reconnaissance Organization launch. It's one of the largest and most powerful intelligence-gathering satellites ever built, designed for intercepting communications and electronic signals from adversaries. NRLL-44 is believed to be part of the Orion series of signal-intelligence satellites. Signal-intelligence satellites are different from optical satellites in that they're usually parked in geosynchronous orbit and are designed to sit and monitor. a large part of the Earth. These satellites are believed to have massive antennas. Estimates suggest that Orion-class satellites have a 100-meter-wide mesh antenna, making them some of the largest satellites ever deployed. These satellites are designed to pick up military communications, naval transmissions, including ship and submarine movements, government and diplomatic communications,
Starting point is 00:10:48 and possibly even missile launches. One of the most interesting type of signal intelligence satellites involves intercepting microwave signals. If you've ever seen a microwave transmitter on a radio tower, it looks like a big drum. Microwave transmissions are electromagnetic signals operating in the 1 gigahertz to 300 gigahertz frequency range. They're usually used for direct point-to-point communications. So you can't just intercept a microwave signal from geosynchronous orbit by looking down at it. However, you can intercept the emissions that go past the receiver if you point a signal.
Starting point is 00:11:24 a satellite dish at the horizon where the microwave signal would be coming from in a straight line from the microwave transmitter. We know that the Aquacade satellites in the 1970s did this, and there are almost certainly satellites that can do this today. In fact, some satellites may be put into highly elliptical orbits over the poles just so they can intercept communications done by microwave in the far north. One of the biggest problems with spy satellite data today is that there's just so much of it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Back when spy satellites would drop film canisters from orbit, the amount of data that was retrieved was limited enough that humans could process it. Today, the amount of data that's gathered, both optical and signal intelligence, is so great that it's beyond the scope of human analysts to sift through all of it. One of the tools that the reconnaissance community has turned to is artificial intelligence. Declassified documents have revealed the existence of an AI system used by the National Reconnaissance Office, known as Sentient. a name that is in no way scary for an artificial intelligence program.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Sentient is believed to analyze spy satellite data by automating the processing of vast amounts of imagery, signals, and intelligence reports, allowing for faster and more accurate assessments. AI-powered algorithms can quickly identify and classify objects and satellite images, detect changes over time, and recognize patterns that indicate military activity, hidden infrastructure, or potential threats. The National Reconnaissance Office, which I've mentioned several times already now, is one of the most important yet least talked about intelligence agencies in the world. Currently, it's believed that there are 10 countries with some manner of spy satellite capabilities. The United States, China, Russia, France, Israel, Italy, India, Germany, the United Kingdom, and Spain.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Spy satellites are an extremely important part of intelligence. gathering in the world today, and almost all of it is done outside of our view. But even though we can't see it, above our heads, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, hundreds of satellites are observing the surface of the planet and radio signals. And that data is processed by thousands of people and some of the most powerful computer systems in the entire world. The executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is Charles Daniel. The associate producers are Austin Oaken and Cameron Kiefer.
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