Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - The Drake Equation (Encore)
Episode Date: June 30, 2024In 1961, at the Green Bank observatory in West Virginia, a small conference was held for astrophysicists. The meeting was organized by Cornell University professor and astronomer Frank Drake. The subj...ect of the conference was the search for extraterrestrial life. In preparation for the conference, he jotted down his thoughts in the form of an equation. An equation that has changed how we think about life on other worlds. Learn more about the Drake Equation and the variables that make it up on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Sponsors Available nationally, look for a bottle of Heaven Hill Bottled-in-Bond at your local store. Find out more at heavenhilldistillery.com/hh-bottled-in-bond.php Sign up today at butcherbox.com/daily and use code daily to choose your free offer and get $20 off. Visit BetterHelp.com/everywhere today to get 10% off your first month. Use the code EverythingEverywhere for a 20% discount on a subscription at Newspapers.com. Visit meminto.com and get 15% off with code EED15. Listen to Expedition Unknown wherever you get your podcasts. Get started with a $13 trial set for just $3 at harrys.com/EVERYTHING. Subscribe to the podcast! https://link.chtbl.com/EverythingEverywhere?sid=ShowNotes -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Ben Long & Cameron Kieffer Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The following is an encore presentation of Everything Everywhere Daily.
In 1961 at the Green Bank Observatory in West Virginia, a small conference was held for astrophysicists.
The meaning was organized by Cornell University professor and astronomer Frank Drake.
The subject of the conference was the search for extraterrestrial life.
In preparation for the conference, he jotted down his thoughts in the form of an equation,
an equation that has changed how we think about life on other worlds.
Learn more about the Drake equation and the variables which make it up on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily.
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In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the science of astronomy was making huge strides.
In particular, the field of radio astronomy had been taken off, and many new discoveries were
being made. With these new discoveries and new observation tools, the questions of extraterrestrial
intelligence began to come to the forefront, and were taken more seriously by scientists.
It was noted that the radio telescopes of the late 50s were sensitive enough to pick up radio
waves that might have been broadcast from other civilizations. It was in this environment that Frank
Drake created the Drake equation. The Drake equation is nothing more than an attempt to try to identify
the factors which determine the number of civilizations we could potentially communicate with
in our galaxy. The Drake equation is really nothing more than an educated guess. And there have been
criticisms of the equation and suggestions that it needs to be updated in light of discoveries
over the last 60 years. Nonetheless, with that, let's get into the equation. And we're
The entire equation, when read out, would read,
N equals R star times f subp, times n sub e, times f sub l, times f subl, times f sub i,
times f sub i, times f sub c, times l.
If that sounds really complicated, it really isn't.
It's just using a lot of math language, and each of the variables can be explained
in a very easy to understand way.
So let's start with N, which is the entire point of the equation.
equation. N is just the number of civilizations in our galaxy that we could communicate with.
That's what we're trying to figure out. The other seven variables are all things that would
determine the number of civilizations. Many of the early attempts to assign values to these variables
were really nothing more than an educated guess. Since 1961, we've gotten a far better idea
as to the numbers for a few of these values. Our star is the first variable. It represents the rate of
star formation in the Milky Way, or how many new stars are created every year.
Drake's initial guess in 1961, and it was just a guess, was that there was about one new star
that formed every year in our galaxy. He assumed that this was a conservative estimate,
and he was right. The Milky Way has somewhere between 100 to 400 billion stars, and the current
estimate is that approximately three solar masses of stars are being created each year. That could be
three stars like our sun, or one big star three times the size of our sun, or five stars that are
smaller than the sun. Here I should note that the Drake equation is only designed for our galaxy.
If you wanted to calculate this for the entire universe, you'd have to multiply everything by
the estimated number of galaxies in the universe, which is somewhere between 200 billion and 2 trillion.
The second variable is f subp, which represents the fraction of stars that have planets.
Of all the variables in this equation, this is the one where the most progress has been made in the last 60 years.
In 1961, no one even knew if other stars had planets, or if they did, how common of an occurrence it was.
Since then, we have discovered thousands of planets around other stars.
In fact, we found so many that it's assumed now that pretty much all stars have planets,
and that it's a natural part of the formation of stars.
That would make the value of this variable one, or very close to one,
and it really almost renders it irrelevant.
In many of the updated versions of the equation, this variable is now eliminated entirely.
In Drake's original 1961 estimate, he put this value at 0.2 to 0.5, which, as it turns out,
was a very conservative estimate.
The third value is n sub e, which represents the number of planets per solar system that can
support life.
Here, we have made very little progress, because the tools and techniques we have to detect
planets can only detect very large planets, which have a measurable effect on the star
which it orbits. Our estimates of this number should improve over the next several decades,
as new telescopes will be built and new techniques developed which will allow us to find
smaller planets. The key thing which astronomers will be looking for are planets inside
the habitable zone of a star, also known as the Goldilocks zone, it's the zone that isn't too
close to the star like Venus, nor too far away like Mars. The 2013
Kepler mission concluded that there could be 40 billion Earth-sized planets within the
habitable zones of stars, which would give this variable a value of 0.4, assuming that there are
100 billion stars in the galaxy. Drake initially guessed that this value would be between 1 and 5.
The fourth variable is F sub-L, which represents the fraction of habitable planets that actually develop
life. Here, too, we have no real clue what this number might be because we have yet to
actually find life anywhere other than Earth.
However, there's a lot of activity on this front.
Researchers on the origins of life on Earth have concluded that basic single-cell
life on Earth appeared almost as soon as the planet was formed and cooled.
Evidence from Mars has shown more water and other factors necessary for life than we
originally thought.
Future missions to Mars, as well as some to the moons of Jupiter, might determine if life,
or at least the building blocks of life, were able to form outside of the Earth.
Drake initially thought that all planets in the habitable zone would develop life,
but as of right now, we have no clue if that's true or not. It probably isn't 100%, but it probably
isn't zero. The fifth variable is F sub I, which is the fraction of planets with life that develop
intelligent life. And here, we really don't have a clue. If we haven't even found single-cell life
outside of Earth, we really can't even make a good estimate on how likely intelligence is to arise.
There are a host of other problems with this. What is intelligence? Would dolphins on another planet be
considered intelligent? How about a dog?
The estimates for this variable vary widely. Some people think it might be close to one, but others think it might be close to zero. One hypothesis is called the rare Earth hypothesis. This contends that simple cellular life might in fact be very common throughout the universe, but intelligent life like humans might be extremely rare. Life doesn't inexorably evolve to create intelligent life. The odds of an intelligent species evolving could be billions to one. Drake assumed that this was near 100%.
The six variable is F sub C, which is the percentage of intelligent civilizations that develop the ability to communicate through space.
Basically, have they developed radio.
Again, we have no clue what this might be.
Could an intelligent species plateau at some Stone Age level of technology?
Or maybe even a level like ancient Rome?
Or maybe the level of technology required is something that we haven't figured out yet,
and it isn't electromagnetic radiation at all.
It could be that we're the ones in the equivalent of the stone age,
by galactic standards. The final variable is L, which is the lifetime of the civilization.
Even if a species were to evolve to become intelligent and they were to develop sufficient
technology, there might only be a finite period of time where they're able to broadcast.
They could be destroyed by a war, environmental collapse, get hit by a meteor, or maybe their star
explodes. Again, this is a huge unknown and estimates are all over the place. Estimates range for a few
hundred years to infinity. So if you take all seven variables,
and make some best-guessed estimates for each, what do you get?
Well, pretty much anything you want.
Estimates have ranged from Earth being the only intelligent technical civilization in the galaxy
to there being millions of technical species.
You might be thinking that this is all pretty useless if we can't even guesstimate an answer.
However, it was really designed to be a way of thinking about the problem and starting a discussion,
not necessarily an attempt to find a solid answer.
One of the major criticisms of those who use the equation to argue that there are many advanced
civilizations is, where is everyone? This is known as the Fermi paradox, and it'll be the subject of a
future episode. The Drake equation was the first step towards trying to get beyond science fiction,
and trying to really understand if we are in fact alone in our galaxy. Over time, as we
learn more, we'll have a better idea of the values of the variables in the equation, and how likely
it is that there are other intelligent civilizations.
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