Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - The Fermi Paradox (Encore)
Episode Date: June 1, 2023In a previous episode, I spoke about the Drake equation and the odds of there being intelligent extraterrestrial life. Many people have used the Drake equation to argue that it is almost impossible fo...r there not to be intelligent life in our galaxy. However, in the summer of 1950, physicist Enrico Fermi pushed back against this by asking a very simple question: if there are so many intelligent civilizations, where are they? Learn more about the Fermi Paradox and some possible answers to the question, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Sponsors BetterHelp is an online platform that provides therapy and counseling services to individuals in need of mental health support. The platform offers a range of communication methods, including chat, phone, and video sessions with licensed and accredited therapists who specialize in different areas, such as depression, anxiety, relationships, and more. Get 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Everywhere ButcherBox is the perfect solution for anyone looking to eat high-quality, sustainably sourced meat without the hassle of going to the grocery store. With ButcherBox, you can enjoy a variety of grass-fed beef, heritage pork, free-range chicken, and wild-caught seafood delivered straight to your door every month. Visit ButcherBox.com/Daily to get 10% off and free chicken thighs for a year. InsideTracker provides a personal health analysis and data-driven wellness guide to help you add years to your life—and life to your years. Choose a plan that best fits your needs to get your comprehensive biomarker analysis, customized Action Plan, and customer-exclusive healthspan resources. For a limited time, Everything Everywhere Daily listeners can get 20% off InsideTracker’s new Ultimate Plan. Visit InsideTracker.com/eed. Subscribe to the podcast! https://link.chtbl.com/EverythingEverywhere?sid=ShowNotes -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Peter Bennett & Thor Thomsen Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The following is an encore presentation of Everything Everywhere Daily.
In a previous episode, I spoke about the Drake equation and the odds of there being
intelligent extraterrestrial life.
Many people have used the Drake equation to argue that it's almost impossible for
there not to be intelligent life in our galaxy.
However, in the summer of 1950, physicist in Rico Fermi pushed back against this by asking a
very simple question.
If there are so many intelligent civilizations, where are they?
Learn more about the Fermi paradox, and some possible answers to the question.
question on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily.
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first person to ask the question, and it really isn't a paradox. A paradox is a statement that is
self-contradictory. For example, if I said, this statement is false, that would be a paradox.
The Fermi paradox is really just an unanswered question. Likewise, the association with Enrico Fermi
came from an informal conversation he had in the summer of 1950 at Los Alamos Labs in New Mexico.
According to legend, he was having lunch with physicists Emil Kahnepinski, Edward Teller,
and Herbert York, when the subject of a cartoon in the New Yorker magazine came up. The cartoon showed
aliens coming out of a flying saucer, taking garbage cans away. Firmie simply blurted out,
Where is everybody? Everyone present had a slightly different account of what happened, but they all recall
laughing at the way he said it. The first use of the phrase, Fermi paradox, occurred in 1977,
in a paper written by physicist David G. Stevenson. One of the earliest discussions of the
question of where the aliens were was made by Russian rocket scientist Konstantin Seilkovsky
in 1933. However, because everyone calls out the Fermi paradox,
that's what I'm going to stick with and use for the rest of the episode. So, with that in mind,
what are some possible answers to the Fermi paradox? Where are the aliens? To quickly recap the
Drake equation episode, there are several hundred billion stars just in our galaxy, and possibly like
300 sextillion of them in the observable universe. Based on our current knowledge of exoplanets,
each star probably has many planets orbiting around it, and many of those planets might have moons.
Given all the bodies out there, the odds are that some percentage of them must have life and
some percentage of those might have intelligent life. Basically, because the number of stars and planets
is so great, even if the odds are small, they still shouldn't be zero. If aliens do exist,
then the math would suggest that they should be here by now. For example, let's assume we built a
big ship to take colonists to the star closest to our solar system, Proxima Centuri, which is 4.2 light years
away. Perhaps the journey takes a century or two. Once they arrive, they take a few hundred years
of their own to grow their population and create a civilization, and then they do the same thing,
sending colonists to another star. Even at this relatively slow rate of colonization,
using something near our current levels of technology, the entire galaxy should be colonized by a single
species in about five to 50 million years. That may seem like a long time, but on geological
or cosmological time scales, it's nothing. So based on these assumptions, we should have been
visited or at least seen evidence of aliens by now. So what explains the discrepancy? There are a whole
lot of answers which people have put forward. None of them can be proven right or wrong. They're all
just speculation. Here are some of the common theories that attempt to resolve the Fermi paradox.
The first is that interstellar spaceflight just might not be possible. One of the reasons we think it's
possible is because it's such a cornerstone to much of our science fiction. However, in all those
cases, it involves some magical technical advancement like wormholes, warp drive, or faster than
light travel. The true answer might be that the distances are just too vast, and we're stuck here on
our planet. Another theory, which was more popular during the Cold War, was that advanced civilizations
will destroy themselves before they can get to a point where they can communicate with anyone else.
Perhaps they have some sort of cataclysmic war, exhaust their resources, or their star goes extinct.
One of the assumptions, which is often used, is called the mediocrity principle.
This assumes that without any other knowledge, statistically, the Earth must be an average planet.
The rare earth hypothesis suggests that this might not be true, and that our planet might be very unusual.
The rare earth hypothesis holds that simple life might very well be abundant in the universe.
If we were to find evidence of simple life on Mars or another world, this would lend credibility
to this view. However, a series of events had to take place to create humans. As evolutionary biologist
Stephen J. Gould suggested, if you rolled back the tape of life and re-ran it, there's a good chance
that humans wouldn't exist. Almost all multicellular life that we know of has evolved since the Cambrian
explosion about 540 million years ago. However, our best estimate is that simple life
began on Earth perhaps as late as 3.77 billion years ago and possibly as early as 4.28 billion years ago.
Basically, simple life appeared almost as soon as it could have after the formation of the planet,
yet very little happened on Earth for about 3 billion years. Then, something happened which
allowed for the rise of complex multicellular life. And whatever that was, most other planets never go
through it. A more generalized version of this is called the Great Filter.
The great filter suggests that there's something that holds most planets or civilizations back.
It could be the creation of complex life, as the rare earth hypothesis suggests.
Or it could be something in our future that we haven't figured out yet.
If there is a filter, we don't know if it's behind us or in front of us.
A good example of this would be from Star Trek.
Once humans figured out warp drive, we were contacted by Vulcans.
Prior to that, it wasn't worth their time to get in touch with a pre-warp civilization.
There might be a technology that we aren't even aware of yet that hasn't been discovered.
In other words, we can't phone ET until we discover the interstellar telephone.
Other explanations are much more simple.
One is that aliens have been here, but we weren't around to greet them.
They might have come millions of years ago and might not be back again for millions more.
This was sort of the basis for Arthur C. Clark's 2001 Space Odyssey.
Another is that we're first.
The reason why no one has shown up to the party is that we were the first ones to arrive.
This seems improbable given what we know of cosmic timescales, but we can't rule it out.
Another theory is that we haven't been looking long enough, or in the right places.
Our ability to travel into space and do advanced astronomy is actually pretty short,
and maybe we just need to look harder and longer.
Yet another theory holds that maybe everyone is like us.
Everyone's listening, but no one's broadcasting.
Finally, some theories border on the conspiratorial.
Maybe we are an intergalactic zoo or wildlife preserve and no one's allowed to contact us.
Or maybe the aliens are already here, and we are secretly ruled by lizard people.
And that is an actual thing that people believe.
There is almost no limit to the number of theoretical answers to the Fermi paradox.
You can improbably invent your own, and there would be no way to disprove whatever you came up with.
However, what did Enrico Fermi himself think the answer to the question was?
Herbert York, who was at the infamous luncheon, later recalled,
quote,
he went on to conclude that the reason that we hadn't been visited
might be that interstellar flight is impossible,
or if it is possible, always judged not to be worth the effort,
or technological civilization doesn't last long enough for it to happen, end quote.
So, your guess to the resolution of the Fermi paradox is just as good as anyone else's,
and there's a good chance that we will never know.
Unless, of course, aliens land on the front lawn of the White House,
In which case, our first question should be, what took you so long?
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