Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - The Lost Civilization of Atlantis

Episode Date: October 17, 2021

In the Dialogues written by Plato in the year 360 BC, he wrote of a place called Atlantis. Atlantis was a place where the citizens were half-gods and half-men, yet it was destroyed in a cataclysmic ev...ent. Ever since then people have been speculating about where Atlantis was and who the Atlantians were. Learn more about the history of Atlantis and the various theories of where it was and if it even existed, on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In the dialogues written by Plato in the year 360 BC, he wrote of a place called Atlantis. Atlantis was a land where the citizens were half gods and half men, yet it was destroyed in a cataclysmic event. Ever since then, people have been speculating about where Atlantis was and who the Atlanteans were. Learn more about the history of Atlantis and the various theories of where it was or if it even existed on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Do you ever climb into bed ready to sleep only to have your mind start racing the moment your head hits the pillow? Thoughts bouncing around, replaying the day or jumping ahead to tomorrow? That is exactly why Catherine Nikolai created Nothing Much Happens. Each episode is a gentle, cozy bedtime story where, well, nothing much happens.
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Starting point is 00:02:20 The only mentions we have of something called Atlantis come from the writings of Plato. That's it. There are no relics, inscriptions, or even mentions from other people in history. Moreover, it isn't even given a central place in the works of Plato. Atlantis appears in two of Plato's dialogues, the Timaeus and the Critias. According to Plato, what he knows of Atlantis came from the Athenian statesman Salon, who visited Egypt 200 years before Plato and translated their writings about Atlantis. So, right off the bat, whatever Plato tells us is 200-year-old hearsay. So what does he tell us about Atlantis?
Starting point is 00:02:58 First, Atlantis was located beyond the pillars of Hercules, which today is known as the Strait of Gibraltar. Atlantis was larger than ancient Libya and Asia Minor combined. That would be most of North Africa west of the Nile and most of modern-day Turkey. The city of Atlantis was supposedly three circular canals with circular islands between them. It would have been something like what modern-day Amsterdam is like. There was also a long canal from the city to the sea, which allowed the Atlanteans to have a powerful navy. The people there were half-gods, and the land of Atlantis was given to the Greek god Poseidon. They also engaged in a war with people east of the pillars of Hercules, which included the Egyptians,
Starting point is 00:03:38 and then the land was destroyed in one cataclysmic day and sank. Furthermore, all of this took place 9,000 years before Plato. So the big question, and the one which people have been asking for over 2,000 years, is if Atlantis was real, and if so, where was it? Almost immediately after Plato, there was divergent opinions about Atlantis. Aristotle thought that Atlantis was just a metaphor that Plato used to make a philosophical point. However, the Greek philosopher Crantor thought that Atlantis was a real place. These opinions have been echoed throughout the centuries with some thinking that it was imaginary
Starting point is 00:04:15 and others thinking it was real. The same held true in Rome, among Jewish and Christian scholars, and even to the modern day. Moreover, of those who thought that Atlantis was real, the number of locations identified as the location of Atlantis is almost as large as the number of places. So where are the places which Atlantis has been claimed to have been? If you're taking the writings of Plato literally, it would imply that there was a continent-sized landmass west of the Strait of Gibraltar that disappeared. This was the most common theory up until recent times. Somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean was a sunken land where Atlantis resided. The problem with this theory is many-fold.
Starting point is 00:04:57 For starters, continents don't work that way. They don't just sink. If you remember back to my episode on plate tectonics, continents can move around very very, slowly over geologic time. However, they don't just sink, and certainly wouldn't do so in a single day. Moreover, we've done a pretty good job of mapping the bottom of the ocean, and there's nothing there that would indicate any sort of sunken land. Now, you might be thinking that there is a continental-sized landmass west of the pillars of Hercules, the Americas. This became a popular theory after European discovery of the Americas in the late 15th century. One particular theory
Starting point is 00:05:34 was that the Mayan people were the descendants of the Atlanteans. They had an elaborate calendar and had created advanced architecture. These pyramids, along with similar Aztec structures, were initially considered by some people to be the ruins of ancient Atlantis. The problem with this theory is that it doesn't really fit any of the other parts of the legend. There's no evidence of a city that fits its description, and there isn't anything about it that involves cataclysmic destruction. Another theory holds that Atlantis might have been in the modern-day country of the Bahamas.
Starting point is 00:06:04 This mainly comes from an underwater rock formation called the Bimini Road. The formation bears a rough resemblance to a road paved with large stones. These stones, which look like a road, are about as good as the evidence gets, and the vast majority of geologists recognize it as a natural formation. Likewise, many islands in the Caribbean have also been posited as the location of Atlantis, including Hispaniola and Puerto Rico. In 1974, one writer named Flavio Barbiero named Antarctica as the location of Atlantis. The theory being that in the past it was much warmer, and the evidence of the
Starting point is 00:06:39 civilization was eventually covered in ice. The last theory, which still puts Atlantis in the Atlantic, would be the Azor Islands. They're in the Atlantic and they're volcanic, but they aren't anywhere close to the size of a continent. Likewise, the Canary Islands and Cape Verde have also been named as possible locations. Maybe, however, we shouldn't take Plato's text so literally. Maybe it is west of the pillars of Hercules, but it isn't that far. away, or it isn't that large. One theory holds that Atlantis was the island of Great Britain, or possibly the island of Ireland. It could possibly have been located in an area that was dry land 11,000 years ago, but was subsequently submerged when the sea levels rose after the last
Starting point is 00:07:20 ice age ended. Another theory places it in northwest Africa. There's one place in particular that fits one of the descriptions better than almost any other on Earth. It's called the Rechat structure in the country of Mauritania. It's a formation that is a series of concentric circles which matches the description, sort of, of the city given by Plato. However, it's over 300 miles away from the sea today, and would have been even farther away 11,000 years ago. There's also no evidence of a canal, which would have been necessary if it somehow was a great naval power. Okay, maybe Atlantis wasn't a physical place as described by Plato, but maybe it was inspired by an actual location. Maybe something close to home, which the Greeks would have been more familiar with.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Within the Mediterranean, Malta, Cyprus, Crete, and Cerdinia have all been named as possible locations of Atlantis. One of the most interesting theories has to do with the island of Santorini. If you think of Santorini today, it's of picturesque images of white buildings against the sea. However, if you look at a map, you'll see that Santorini sits on the edge of a crescent-shaped island, which is part of a volcanic caldera. The volcano located there exploded in a massive eruption 3,600 years ago, which destroyed the ancient, known civilization. The original island would have been round, like Atlantis, and it was destroyed in a day. Moreover, it would have been well known to anyone from ancient Greece. The Atlantis legend
Starting point is 00:08:46 might have been a way of preserving the story of the people who lived on the ancient island of Santorini. The Atlanta story has been adapted into popular fiction. It's been used as a backdrop for TV shows such as Stargate Atlantis, and it's also the location of the water-breathing, fish-talking Atlanteans of Aquaman. Personally, I think Atlantis was just a metaphor used by Plato, as there's nothing beyond Plato's words, which she admits aren't even his. There has never been anything found which fits the description of Atlantis, and Plato even talks about Atlantis being involved with the Greek gods. There is, however, one thing about the Atlanta story which I do find interesting. The date and the story of a cataclysm. Nine thousand years before Plato is shockingly close to the end of the period known as the Younger Dryas.
Starting point is 00:09:32 One of the things which happened at this time was a massive rise in sea levels. I'm going to do a future episode on this because the implications are fascinating, but that rise in sea level coincides with stories of great floods from other sources such as the Bible and the epic of Gilgamesh. Maybe some of the facts surrounding the Atlantismith are just embellishments that have been added over the years to something which has a kernel of truth. Or maybe it's just a figment of the imagination of the mind of Plato, and the reason why we've never found anything is because it never existed. The associate producers of Everything Everywhere Daily are Peter Bennett and Thor Thompson. If you'd like to support the show, please join the list of patrons over at patreon.com.
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