Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - The Lost Civilization of Atlantis (Encore)
Episode Date: August 10, 2023In the Dialogues written by Plato in the year 360 BC, he wrote of a place called Atlantis. Atlantis was a land where the citizens were half-gods and half-men, yet it was destroyed in a cataclysmic eve...nt. Ever since then people have been speculating about where Atlantis was and who the Atlantians were. Learn more about the history of Atlantis and the various theories of where it was and if it even existed on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. Sponsors Newspapers.com Use the code “EverythingEverywhere” at checkout to get 20% off a publisher extra subscription at newspapers.com. Noom Noom is not just another diet or fitness app. It’s a comprehensive lifestyle program designed to empower you to make lasting changes and achieve your health goals. With Noom, you’ll embark on a personalized journey that considers your unique needs, preferences, and challenges. Their innovative approach combines cutting-edge technology with the support of a dedicated team of experts, including registered dietitians, nutritionists, and behavior change specialists. Sign up for your TRIAL today at Noom.com Rocket Money Rocket Money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps you lower your bills—all in one place. It will quickly and easily find your subscriptions for you –and for any you don’t want to pay for anymore, just hit “cancel,” and Rocket Money will cancel it for you. It’s that easy. Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/daily Subscribe to the podcast! https://link.chtbl.com/EverythingEverywhere?sid=ShowNotes -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Peter Bennett & Thor Thomsen Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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In the dialogues written by Plato in the year 360 BC, he wrote of a place called Atlantis.
Atlantis was a land where the citizens were half gods and half men, yet it was destroyed in a cataclysmic event.
Ever since then, people have been speculating about where Atlantis was and who the Atlanteans were.
Learn more about the history of Atlantis and the various theories of where it was or if it even existed on this episode of Everything Everywhere.
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from NPR. The amazing thing about the story of Atlantis is how much attention it has been given
over the centuries, versus how little evidence there ever was for it to begin with.
The only mentions we have of something called Atlantis come from the writings of Plato.
That's it.
There are no relics, inscriptions, or even mentions from other people in history.
Moreover, it isn't even given a central place in the works of Plato.
Atlantis appears in two of Plato's dialogues, the Timaeus and the Critias.
According to Plato, what he knows of Atlantis came from the Athenian statesman Salon,
who visited Egypt 200 years before Plato and translated their writings about Atlantis.
So, right off the bat, whatever Plato tells us is 200-year-old hearsay.
So what does he tell us about Atlantis?
First, Atlantis was located beyond the pillars of Hercules, which today is known as the Strait of Gibraltar.
Atlantis was larger than ancient Libya and Asia Minor combined.
That would be most of North Africa west of the Nile and most of modern-day Turkey.
The city of Atlantis was supposedly three circular canals with circular islands between them.
It would have been something like what modern-day Amsterdam is like.
There was also a long canal from the city to the sea, which allowed the Atlanteans to have a powerful navy.
The people there were half-gods, and the land of Atlantis was given to the Greek god Poseidon.
They also engaged in a war with people east of the pillars of Hercules, which included the Egyptians,
and then the land was destroyed in one cataclysmic day and sank.
Furthermore, all of this took place 9,000 years before Plato.
So, the big question, and the one which people have been asking for over 2,000 years,
is if Atlantis was real, and if so, where was it?
Almost immediately after Plato, there was divergent opinions about Atlantis.
Aristotle thought that Atlantis was just a metaphor that Plato used to make a philosophical point.
However, the Greek philosopher Cranthor thought that Atlantis was a real place.
These opinions have been echoed throughout the centuries with some thinking that it was imaginary
and others thinking it was real. The same held true in Rome, among Jewish and Christian scholars,
and even to the modern day. Moreover, of those who thought that Atlantis was real,
the number of locations identified as the location of Atlantis is almost as large as the number of
places. So where are the places which Atlantis has been claimed to have been? If you're taking
the writings of Plato literally, it would imply that there were,
was a continent-sized landmass, west of the Strait of Gibraltar, that disappeared.
This was the most common theory up until recent times. Somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic
ocean was a sunken land where Atlantis resided. The problem with this theory is many-fold.
For starters, continents don't work that way. They don't just sink. If you remember back to my
episode on plate tectonics, continents can move around very slowly over geologic time. However, they
don't just sink, and certainly wouldn't do so in a single day.
Moreover, we've done a pretty good job of mapping the bottom of the ocean, and there's
nothing there that would indicate any sort of sunken land. Now, you might be thinking that
there is a continental-sized landmass west of the pillars of Hercules, the Americas.
This became a popular theory after European discovery of the Americas in the late 15th century.
One particular theory was that the Mayan people were the descendants of the Atlanteans. They had an
elaborate calendar and had created advanced architecture. These pyramids, along with similar
Aztec structures, were initially considered by some people to be the ruins of ancient Atlantis.
The problem with this theory is that it doesn't really fit any of the other parts of the legend.
There's no evidence of a city that fits its description, and there isn't anything about it that
involves cataclysmic destruction. Another theory holds that Atlantis might have been in the modern-day
country of the Bahamas. This mainly comes from an underwater rock formation called the Bimini Road.
The formation bears a rough resemblance to a road paved with large stones.
These stones, which look like a road, are about as good as the evidence gets, and the vast
majority of geologists recognize it as a natural formation.
Likewise, many islands in the Caribbean have also been posited as the location of Atlantis,
including Hispaniola and Puerto Rico.
In 1974, one writer named Flavio Barbiero named Antarctica as the location of Atlantis,
The theory being that in the past it was much warmer, and the evidence of the civilization was eventually covered in ice.
The last theory, which still puts Atlantis in the Atlantic, would be the Azores Islands.
They're in the Atlantic, and they're volcanic, but they aren't anywhere as close to the size of a continent.
Likewise, the Canary Islands and Cape Verde have also been named as possible locations.
Maybe, however, we shouldn't take Plato's text so literally.
Maybe it is west of the pillars of Hercules, but it isn't that far away,
or it isn't that large. One theory holds that Atlantis was the island of Great Britain,
or possibly the island of Ireland. It could possibly have been located in an area that was dry
land 11,000 years ago, but was subsequently submerged when the sea levels rose after the last
ice age ended. Another theory places it in northwest Africa. There's one place in particular that
fits one of the descriptions better than almost any other on earth. It's called the rechat structure
in the country of Mauritania. It's a formation that is a
series of concentric circles which matches the description, sort of, of the city given by Plato.
However, it's over 300 miles away from the sea today, and would have been even farther away
11,000 years ago. There's also no evidence of a canal, which would have been necessary if it somehow
was a great naval power. Okay, maybe Atlantis wasn't a physical place as described by Plato,
but maybe it was inspired by an actual location, maybe something close to home which the Greeks
would have been more familiar with. Within the Mediterranean, Malta, Cyprus, Crete, and Cardinia
have all been named as possible locations of Atlantis. One of the most interesting theories has to do
with the island of Santorini. If you think of Santorini today, it's of picturesque images of white
buildings against the sea. However, if you look at a map, you'll see that Santorini sits on the
edge of a crescent-shaped island, which is part of a volcanic caldera. The volcano located there
exploded in a massive eruption 3,600 years ago, which destroyed the ancient Minoan civilization.
The original island would have been round, like Atlantis, and it was destroyed in a day.
Moreover, it would have been well known to anyone from ancient Greece.
The Atlantis legend might have been a way of preserving the story of the people who lived
on the ancient island of Santorini.
The Atlanta story has been adapted into popular fiction.
It's been used as a backdrop for TV shows such as Stargate Atlantis, and it's also
the location of the water-breathing, fish-talking, Atlanteans of Aquaman.
Personally, I think Atlantis was just a metaphor used by Plato, as there's nothing beyond
Plato's words, which he admits aren't even his. There has never been anything found which
fits the description of Atlantis, and Plato even talks about Atlantis being involved with
the Greek gods. There is, however, one thing about the Atlanta story which I do find interesting.
The date and the story of a cataclysm. Nine thousand years before Plato is shockingly
close to the end of the period known as the Younger Dryas.
One of the things which happened at this time was a massive rise in sea levels.
I'm going to do a future episode on this because the implications are fascinating, but that
rise in sea level coincides with stories of great floods from other sources such as the
Bible and the epic of Gilgamesh.
Maybe some of the facts surrounding the Atlantismith are just embellishments that have been
added over the years to something which has a kernel of truth.
or maybe it's just a figment of the imagination of the mind of Plato.
And the reason why we've never found anything is because it never existed.
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