Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - The Sinking of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

On the evening of January 30, 1945, the deadliest shipwreck in human history occurred.  Most of you might be aware of the sinking of the Titanic or the Lusitania, yet you’ll have never heard of th...e MV Wilhelm Gustloff.  With a death toll 4 to 6 times worse than the Titanic, the maritime disaster has been all but forgotten today. Why has history forgotten about the world’s greatest maritime disaster? Learn more about the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff, why it happened, and why it has been forgotten by history in this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. ***5th Anniversary Celebration RSVP*** Sponsors Newspapers.com Get 20% off your subscription to Newspapers.com Mint Mobile Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at mintmobile.com/eed Quince Go to quince.com/daily for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Stitch Fix Go to stitchfix.com/everywhere to have a stylist help you look your best Stash Go to get.stash.com/EVERYTHING to see how you can receive $25 towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures. Subscribe to the podcast!  https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/ -------------------------------- Executive Producer: Charles Daniel Associate Producers: Austin Oetken & Cameron Kieffer   Become a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/everythingeverywhere Update your podcast app at newpodcastapps.com Discord Server: https://discord.gg/UkRUJFh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everythingeverywhere/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingeverywheredaily Twitter: https://twitter.com/everywheretrip Website: https://everything-everywhere.com/  Disce aliquid novi cotidie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On the evening of January 30, 1945, the deadliest shipwreck in human history occurred. Most of you might be aware of the sinking of the Titanic or the Lusitania, yet you've probably never heard of the M.V. Wilhelm Gustalov. With a death toll about six times greater than the Titanic, the Wilhelm Gustav disaster has been all but forgotten today. Why has history forgotten about the world's greatest maritime disaster? Learn more about the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustav. why it happened and why it's been largely forgotten on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily.
Starting point is 00:00:36 What if your perceptions about the past were wrong? ThruLine is a podcast that takes you back in time to uncover the parts of the story that may have gone unnoticed. It effectively turned day into night. And how it shaped the world now. Time travel with us every week on the ThruLine podcast from NPR. To understand why the greatest shipwreck in history has been largely forgotten, it's essential to describe the events that led up to the disaster. The MV Wilhelm Gustoloff was a German civilian cruise ship prior to World War II,
Starting point is 00:01:29 designed for and used by the Third Reich. The ship was designed to be a cruise liner built under the Nazi Strength for Joy leisure program. It was initially supposed to be named the Adolf Hitler, but the name was changed to honor a lesser-known Nazi, Wilhelm Gustav. Gustalov was the leader of the Nazi Party Switzerland branch, and Gustav was assassinated in 1936. Hitler, wanting to honor the dead Gustav, changed the name of the ship after his funeral. Measuring 208.5 meters or 684 feet in length, and 23.5 meters or 77 feet in width, the ship was designed to accommodate approximately 1900 people.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Before World War II, the ship was used for trips across the North Atlantic and around the Mediterranean. The vessel was designed to provide recreational and cultural activities for German civilians, providing entertainment in the form of concerts and cruises for workers and officials. The ship was also a valuable propaganda tool. As it sailed across the North Atlantic, it was used to showcase the supposed advantages of Nazism. When World War II began, the ship was converted by the regime to serve as a medical ship and later became a floating barracks. However, in early 1945, the ship took on a new role.
Starting point is 00:02:44 which is where this story really starts. On January 23, 1945, the Gustavov was soon to repurposed as an evacuation vessel in Operation Hannibal. Operation Hannibal was a massive German naval evacuation conducted in early 1945 to rescue civilians and military personnel from East Prussia, which is today Poland, and other Baltic regions as the Soviet Red Army advanced. It became one of the largest maritime evacuations in history involving over a thousand ships and rescuing an estimated 800,000 to a million people.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It's often been called the German version of Dunkirk. After the failure of the German invasion of Russia, the Soviets were now advancing at full speed towards Germany. Many refugees were desperate to escape the war on the Eastern Front as the Red Army began to overrun their homes. Rumors began to circulate amongst the refugees that the port of Göttenhafen, now known as Gdania Poland, was evacuating to the west,
Starting point is 00:03:41 causing hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children to travel. to the Prussian coast. The trek for the refugees was brutal. The temperatures were below freezing, and they were subject to Soviet air attacks, and when they would arrive at the ports, they would often find a chaotic scene. None of the refugees knew who was in charge, and even the Nazi officials would argue amongst themselves over who was in charge of Operation Hannibal. The officials were also fearful about appearing weak, which meant that the evacuation was postponed later than needed. While it's impossible to know whether or not a more timely departure would have prevented the Wilhelm Gustav's sinking, this certainly could have been a factor in why the tragedy unfolded.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The voyage from Gottenhofen to Kiel was already dangerous as the Allies had deployed mines in the Baltic Sea along the coastlines. Even though the Wilhelm Gustalov was not a military ship, sailing too close to the shoreline could result in the vessel being destroyed, which forced the ship out into deeper waters in the Baltic. On midday, January 30, 1945, the Wilhelm Gustalov sailed out from the port of Gottenhafen. The ship was filled far beyond its capacity with refugees. The ship set sail with an estimated 10,600 people on board. Of that number, about half were children. The actual number of people aboard the Gustav is impossible to determine, but the ship's capacity was holding roughly 8,000 people more than it was ever designed
Starting point is 00:05:04 for. Because it was January, the water was freezing cold with lots of snow and wind. These conditions could have worked in the Germans' favor as the potential for the Allies to see the ship was lowered due to the lack of visibility. And it's for this reason that the Germans decided to set sail straight across the Baltic Sea. However, the ship's captain, Friedrich Peterson, was warned of a minesweeper convoy and turned on the ship's navigation lights, completely negating the cover of winter that they had hoped to have. It suspected that the message that was sent may have been a misunderstanding or perhaps a deliberate act of sabotage. For further protection, the ship was escorted by a pair of torpedo boats as it set sail back to Germany. One ended up breaking down, and the other took a different route, leaving the ship entirely undefended.
Starting point is 00:05:52 What the crew of the Gustav didn't know was that a Soviet submarine, the S-13, was following the ship under the waters of the Baltic Sea after having spotted them sail out of port. Led by Captain Alexander Maranesco, they shadowed the Gustav for hours until 9 p.m. Now, in fairness to Captain Maranesco, the ship did look like a legitimate military target. The paint that had formerly marked it as a non-combatant ship had been removed. Additionally, there were troops and anti-aircraft guns in the deck, causing Captain Maranesco to perceive it as a military vessel. Maranesco fired four torpedoes at the Gustav, three striking the ship's side, hitting the ship's bow, stern, and midship.
Starting point is 00:06:33 The torpedoes fired had Soviet messages for vengeance written on them. The first was for the motherland, the second was for the Soviet people, and the third was for Leningrad. The fourth torpedo failed to launch. After the impact, the people on board rushed for the lifeboats, but the ship barely had enough to fit its normal capacity of 1900 people, let alone the over 10,000 that it was currently carrying. As panic ensued, people were crushed to death as people ran to the lifeboats while others fell into the sea. Compounding the disaster was how the ship sank. The Gustav started listing towards its port side, which meant that half the light boats couldn't be used. As the boat sank, people began to jump into the icy cold water. Those who did not die in impact would quickly freeze to death.
Starting point is 00:07:20 The rescue and evacuation efforts were heavily impeded. Due to the ship's location in the Baltic Sea, there were large amounts of ice, making lifeboats essentially useless. Those on the lifeboats almost died due to the freezing temperatures. German rescue boats did arrive shortly after receiving the SOS sites. but the rescuers were also in imminent danger. Soviet submarines were still in the area, making it so the rescue boats would need to be extremely careful in how they came home if they didn't want to meet the same fate. This led to many of the lifeboats containing the Wilhelm Gustav's survivors being left behind. The entire shipwreck took approximately one hour, and there was only one survivor of those who were found in the water. Of the approximately
Starting point is 00:08:03 10,600 people aboard the ship, only 1,200 survived. The total number of dead can never be known, but it's estimated to be around 9,400. Despite the massive death toll, the tragedy received little attention. And there are several reasons why this particular disaster has been overlooked historically. World War II was coming to an end, and the death toll in Europe was staggering, with new disasters seemingly happening every day. Additionally, it served little purpose for the Soviets or the Germans to admit the loss of so many civilian lives. For the Nazis, it would make the regime look weaker and worsen the refugees' morale, and for the Soviets, it would add to the sheer brutality of the war effort and potentially be negative propaganda. Because of this, initial information was heavily
Starting point is 00:08:53 suppressed, especially by the Nazi party, though reports of the shipwreck did eventually reach Nazi officials. Now, you might be thinking that there were over a thousand survivors, so surely news of disaster would have come out from them, and you'd be partially right. When survivors reached safety, some did try to talk about the shipwreck, but they were often downplayed or silenced by Nazi authorities. It wasn't until weeks after the shipwreck that much of the world learned of what happened. Much of the information that went out was limited with many countries only receiving wire stories about the disaster. Most of what the world heard was through Finnish radio broadcasting,
Starting point is 00:09:31 and even then it was barely mentioned. It's likely that even if the Allies had learned of the disaster earlier, there wouldn't have been much sympathy, as the war was viewed in very black and white terms. Any sympathy for the Germans would be viewed as sympathy towards the enemy, and for many it was perceived as a military victory, despite the overwhelmingly majority of victims being civilians, and a large number of them being children.
Starting point is 00:09:55 This state of affairs persisted long after the war had ended. There was a lot of hesitancy in discussing any tragedy that the German people faced, namely due to having started the war and the number of war crimes that the Nazis committed. According to Edward Petruscovic, the curator at the Wilhelm Gustav Museum, quote, The Gustav was just another casualty of war alongside the countless other large ships sunk on the German side. The Germans were viewed as the aggressor and anything that fell into the idea of German victimhood really couldn't be mentioned until decades after the war. Even within Germany, it became distasteful
Starting point is 00:10:31 to claim victimhood, so the general population largely forgot about the disaster. And this is very similar to the millions of Germans who died at the end of the war, which I covered in a previous episode. The Wilhelm Gustav was not the only German evacuation ship to be sunk by the Russians. Two others, the Stubin and the Goya were also torpedoed by the Soviets. And also forgotten, the death toll of the two ships was also massive with an estimated combined 11,000 casualties. There's been a shift that has made it more socially acceptable to now talk about this tragedy.
Starting point is 00:11:08 A survivor by the name of Heinzschon can be credited with most of this shift. Just 18 years old when the ship sank, he spent the vast majority of his life compiling witness accounts of the shipwreck and collecting as much information as possible about it. It wasn't until about 20 years ago that modern historians began to openly discuss the Wilhelm Gustalov disaster. With this shift, Germans were allowed to discuss their own victimhood, admittedly within specific circumstances,
Starting point is 00:11:35 allowing for more information and discussion on the Wilhelm Gustav to be explored. The sinking of the Wilhelm Gustav is an important example of how framing influences history. We hear about tragedies like the Titanic and Louisville. Satania quite often, yet history's deadliest maritime disaster is today essentially unknown. And it shows the impact that perspective and propaganda can have on collective memory. After more than 80 years have passed, historians in the public can now take a more nuanced and objective look at this horrific maritime disaster. Yes, the Germans were the aggressors in the war, but the thousands of children who died played no part in the horrors of that war.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Given the improved safety standards aboard ships today, it's likely that the M.V. Vilhelm Gustoloff might hold the distinction of being the world's worst ship disaster for a very long time. The executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is Charles Daniel. The associate producers are Austin Oaken and Cameron Kiefer. Research in writing for this episode was provided by Olivia Ash. Today's review comes from listener Dyak Davik over on Apple Podcasts in the United States. They write,
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