Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - Uncontacted Peoples

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you're listening to me speak these words, regardless of where you are and where you live, you are part of a global network that we call human civilization. You share ideas, technology, and goods created worldwide, and by people in your own community. Most people on the planet are part of this system, but not everyone. Some people have remained separated from this system and still live in their traditional ways today. Learn more about uncontacted people, who they are and where they live on this episode of EverySy. everything everywhere daily. Do you ever climb into bed ready to sleep only to have your mind start racing the moment your head hits the pillow? Thoughts bouncing around, replaying the day or jumping ahead

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Starting point is 00:01:39 because the phrase is a bit of a misnomer. Uncontacted people know that there's a world beyond themselves and their immediate community. They have probably seen airplanes flying overhead and they've probably seen lights rapidly moving in the night sky. And they probably at some point did in fact have contact with the outside world. And it was usually the experience they had with their contact with the outside world that resulted in their reluctance to deal with them. We're not talking about people who are simply isolated. For example, someone who lives in the far north of Canada has little contact with the outside world, but they'll still probably get supplies at least once a year. The Yanomami people of northern Brazil and southern Venezuela still largely practiced their traditions,

Starting point is 00:02:23 but they've had contact and anthropologists have studied their culture and language. We're talking about people who still live a Neolithic lifestyle of either hunting and gathering or very small-scale subsistence agriculture. When most of the native people who live, lived in the Americas, Australia, or remote islands encountered Europeans who showed up, it usually resulted in widespread death. This was primarily due to disease, as I discussed in a previous episode, but also often violent clashes. Uncontacted people had the exact same experience as most native and Aboriginal people did.

Starting point is 00:02:57 The difference was that they lived in a place that was very difficult to reach or was of little interest to outsiders. They could hide and fight to keep outsiders away, often using violence. In the old world, roughly defined as Europe, Asia, and Africa, it's believed that there are no uncontacted people's remaining, with one known exception that I'll get to in a bit. That isn't to say that there weren't once people who were unknown to the rest of the world. Vietnam, for example, has had a flourishing culture for thousands of years. Yet in 1959, a small group of about 100 people were discovered by soldiers who were living in caves.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Known as the Rook people, they were naked, subsisted on hunting and gambling. gathering and somehow managed to escape the attention of the Vietnamese for centuries. Today, they're still somewhat isolated, but they live in a valley growing crops. In 1911, a 50-year-old man who was called Ishii walked into Oroville, California, wearing full tribal regalia. He was the last surviving member of the Yahya tribe. Everyone else in his tribe had been killed. The Three Knolls Massacre, which took place in 1865, killed 40 members of his tribe, and of the three-noles. 33 survivors, half of those were later killed by cattlemen and miners. That left a small group

Starting point is 00:04:14 that hid in the mountains for 44 years. By 1911, Ishii was the last remaining Yahya, and he decided to come down from the mountains. Ishii was not actually his name. It's the word for man in the Yana language. He couldn't say his name, because the custom in the Yahya tribe was that you could only speak your name after being introduced by another member of the tribe. About his name, he told researchers, quote, I have none because there were no people to name me. Ishi has been called the last Native American. In a previous episode, I told the story of the Pintuppie 9, a small family who lived in the Australian Alpac until 1984.

Starting point is 00:04:54 They were believed to have been the last uncontacted Aboriginal people in Australia. Fast forward to the 21st century, and there are still a small number of people who are considered to be uncontacted around the world. current estimates are that there are approximately 100 uncontacted tribes around the world today, although the exact number is uncertain. And the total population may be somewhere around 10,000 people. For the most part, there's little that we know about them precisely because they're uncontacted. We know they exist.

Starting point is 00:05:25 There may have been rare photos taken of them, and we know roughly where they live, but that's about it. We know that most uncontacted tribes and communities are usually less than 100 people. people, and oftentimes much less. We also know from cases where contact was made that their stories are very similar to that of Ishi or the Rook people in Vietnam. They live in hiding after having had disastrous contact with the rest of the outside world. There are only three areas on the planet where uncontacted people can be found, two small areas in the eastern hemisphere and one large area in the Western Hemisphere, which accounts for the vast majority of uncontacted people. The first group in the eastern hemisphere, and the exception that I mentioned before, is located in the Andaman Islands in India in the Bay of Bengal.

Starting point is 00:06:12 These are the sentinoles who live on North Sentinel Island. I previously mentioned these people in my episode on terra nullius or unclaimed land. North Central Island is nominally part of India, but they have passed legislation preventing anyone from even approaching the island. In the 19th century, the British tried to establish contact, but were unable to as none of the native people from nearby islands could speak their language. The Sentinelese, which is the name we gave them, as we have no clue what they call themselves, have always attacked anyone who tried to land on the island. In 1984, there was a shipwreck that resulted in 50 men in canoes coming out to attack the ship. In 2006, two Indian fishermen were illegally harvesting crabs off the island

Starting point is 00:06:55 when their anchor broke, and they accidentally drifted into the island. The Sentinelese immediately attacked and killed the fishermen with axes. And the body was a bit of the island. And the by the body was, of the fishermen were then seemed to be prompt up on the beach like scarecrow's. In 2018, an American missionary named John Allen Chow attempted to visit North Sentinel to convert the people there to Christianity. He tried approaching the island and singing hymns. He tried speaking to them in Klosa, which is actually a language from South Africa. On his final visit, he was killed by the islanders, and the fishermen who dropped him off saw his body being dragged away. While we know almost nothing about the Sentinelese, we do know that they

Starting point is 00:07:31 want to be left alone. We also know that they want to be left alone. We also know that. that they've used metal from shipwrecks to create weapons. The other area in the eastern hemisphere with uncontacted people is the Indonesian province of Papua, the western half of the island of New Guinea. There might be as many as 40 uncontacted tribes that live in inaccessible mountainous parts of the island. Moreover, there is some evidence that at least some of these people still practice cannibalism. Because these people live in areas that are so hard to reach, most of the native people on the island don't even know much about them or who they are.

Starting point is 00:08:03 Unlike India, which has established legal protections for the Sentinelese, there are currently no protections in place by the government of Indonesia. By far, the largest number of uncontacted people all live in the Amazon rainforest. The Amazon is vast and mostly inaccessible. Most of these people live in Brazil or near the border in other Amazonian countries, such as Peru, Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela. There is also believed to be one uncontacted tribe still living outside the Amazon in the forests of Paraguay. These people, while linguistically and culturally might be quite different, all share something in common. They are primarily hunter-gatherers who might engage in limited agriculture. Prior to 1967, the Brazilian government had a policy of relocating

Starting point is 00:08:46 people who lived in areas that could be used for agriculture, timber, or mining. It was in 1967 that they established the Fundesau National Dos Povos Injiginess, also known as Funai, or in English, the National indigenous peoples foundation. These uncontacted people of the Amazon were often subject to killings and massacres by people who wanted their land. This was often people pursuing timber or mining interests, but more recently also by drug cartels. Because of their isolation, people were literally getting away with murder. The danger wasn't just people who wanted their land for nefarious purposes.

Starting point is 00:09:21 Even non-malicious contact could have disastrous consequences. One anthropologist in Columbia met a group of uncontacted people just. two get to understand them better. And during one of their meetings, he embraced one of the members of the tribe in a friendly gesture. Unbeknownst to him, he was carrying a host of modern diseases with him that caused an epidemic that killed hundreds of people. While there's more we don't know about these uncontacted people than we do know, there have been certain cases that have been brought to the attention of anthropologists and

Starting point is 00:09:51 government officials. One example was a solitary person known as the man of the whole. He was believed to be the last member of his tribe and was the unconstitutional. only inhabitant of an area known as the Tenaru indigenous region in Brazil that had an area of 8,000 hectares or 20,000 acres. The other members of his tribe were believed to have been killed by settlers in the 1970s. We have no idea what the name of his tribe was, what language he spoke, or his name. He was called man of the hole because he would leave a deep hole in every site he visited. These holes were 1.8 meters or almost 6 feet deep. He moved frequently hunting and gathering

Starting point is 00:10:28 and left over 50 dwellings that he built behind him. He was found in 2022, quote, lying down in a hammock and ornamented with macaugh feathers as if waiting for death. He was estimated to be around 60 years old. The Pirupura tribe is a small tribe consisting of only two people, an uncle and his nephew. As with the man of the whole, most of the Pirupura were killed several decades ago in a massacre. The two men survived in the rainforest by themselves, hiding from the rest of the world. They were known to Funai, but little was known about them beyond the fact that they existed.

Starting point is 00:11:02 Funai was actually debating reaching out to them when they actually ended up reaching out to Funai. It turns out that the two men had kept a fire going for 18 years, and it had finally gone out. They came into a settlement to relight their torches. The locals entertained them for a while, and they were even able to watch television. But as soon as they got their torches lit, they headed back to the forest. The Awwa people in the eastern Amazon, have gone from being settled agriculturalists to nomadic in order to survive. There are currently approximately 350 members of the AWA, of which about a hundred are believed to have had no contact

Starting point is 00:11:37 with the outside world. The massacres and tragedies that have afflicted these people are not things of the past. They're still ongoing today, largely because there's a great deal of money at stake, and because these remote areas are largely lawless. In 2007, illegal loggers in Brazil burned an eight-year-old Awa girl alive after she wandered out of her village. They did so as a warning to other members of her tribe. Between 2003 and 2011, an estimated 450 uncontacted people in Brazil alone may have been murdered. This number should be put into the context of the extremely small numbers of these people that exist. It would make for one of the highest murder rates of anywhere on earth.

Starting point is 00:12:22 The protection of uncontacted people varies radically between countries. Colombia has probably the best laws regarding their protection, whereas Indonesia has done almost nothing in West Papua. The status of land set aside for these uncontacted people in Brazil is constantly in flux. Some preserves are temporary, and some may change in size as different politicians come to power. The influence of logging, ranching, and mining interests is very powerful and hard for local politicians to resist. The future for uncontacted people is very uncertain. In places like Sentinel Island, the protections offered by the Indian government, plus the defense of nature of the people who live there,

Starting point is 00:13:00 seem to ensure that people will continue to live unmolested for the foreseeable future. However, in parts of the Amazon rainforest, the future of uncontacted peoples is very much in doubt. Some do live in protected areas and are isolated enough to stay safe, but others find themselves in the crosshairs of economic interests that want their land. 100 years from now, it's likely that some such people will still exist on Earth, but their numbers may be far less than today. The executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is Charles Daniel.

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Everything Everywhere Daily: History, Science, Geography & More - Uncontacted Peoples

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