Everything Is Content - Bianca Uncensori, Amandaland & Doechii

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

 It's TIIIIIMEEEEE for Everything Is Content - Happy Friday EIC heads, we did it, another week bites the dust.As HUGE Motherland fans, we were eagerly anticipating the new BBC spin off Amandaland. The sitcom, produced by another love of our life, Sharon Horgan, follows Amanda (the leader of the alpha-mum’s from the original show, with her perfectly blow-dried blonde hair, insufferable lack of self-awareness and yet somehow endearing charm) who is now divorced and has re-located from Chiswick to South Harlesden with her teenagers. She deals with modern motherhood horrors like teenage drinking, fake Instagram accounts and eco-anxiety, as well as establishing herself as an interiors influencer with her new business ‘sensuous’. Joanna Lumley, who plays Felicity, Amanda’s mother, is her best self as an ab-fab-esque ex model. The show has ginormous boots to fill, so we ask, has it lived up to the hype?Next up - this year's Grammys... Two people who apparently did not stay long enough to enjoy themselves were Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, and his wife Bianca Censori, who showed up, stood for photos and then were apparently- if rumours are to be believed- asked to leave the ceremony following Bianca’s outfit reveal. We discuss our reaction to her fit - or lack there of - and ask whether this is a sign of something horrible and sinister happening in front of our eyes, or if it’s just a display from two people who are equally invested in giving us all a good show.Lastly, one of the more gorgeous moments from the Grammy’s, was Tampa rapper Doechii getting her well-deserved flowers, winning best rap album and in the process becoming one of three women to win the award. We discuss her beautiful speech, her sensational lyricism, and why we are so pleased to have her in our ears.Aaaand, if you're happy to have us in your ears... a 5* review wherever you listen would mean the world, Thank you so much in advance <3 High Fidelity 2020 SeriesHigh Fidelity FilmIn Memoriam - Alice WinnThe Midnight Library - Matt Haig (audiobook)Search Party AmandalandThe Naked Truth About Bianca Censori’s Grammys Look - Raven Smith for VogueDoechii Reigns Supreme on ‘Alligator Bites Never Heal’ - Rolling StoneDoechii is irreverent, raunchy and hilarious on Alligator Bites Never Heal — album review FT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Beth. I'm Richera. And I'm Anoni. And this is Everything Is Content, the podcast discussing the splashiest and most fascinating pop culture stories from the week. Whether that's TV, film, celebrity or internet drama, we do it all. We're the delicate little snowdrops of content peeking through the hard, wintry earth of pop culture discourse.

This week on the podcast we're talking about Amanda Land, Grammy award-winning rapper Dochi and Bianca Sensori's barely there red carpet look. Follow us on Instagram at everything is content pod and if you haven't already make sure you hit follow on the show on your podcast player so we're always right there when you need us. But before we get into the meat of the episode let's do the potatoes. I want to know from you both what have you been loving this week? This week I've got two an old and a new so I decided that I wanted to re-watch High Fidelity with Zoe Kravitz which is the series that is an adaptation of the Nick Hornby book which I think you both have read.

No, I'm not sure. I can't remember if we ever discussed it on the podcast, but basically it's about this man. The book is set in the eighties and it's about this man who decides to trawl through all of his big heartbreaks to try and figure out like what went wrong and understand his life. And I'm sure I've watched the show before, but now that I'm watching it, I'm like, maybe I only watched a bit of it. It is so good. So they've redone it. So Zoe Kravitz, she works in a record store. She it's just almost difficult to watch without constantly just thinking this is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my whole entire life but it's so amazing it's set in the noughties and it's just I think I wanted to watch it because I just

wanted to watch something that was set in that time period sometimes I find like 90s naughty stuff the most comforting watch. So I've been absolutely loving that and it is on Disney+. So if you haven't watched it yet, I would really recommend it. The book is also amazing and it's really funny and a nice time capsule. And then the second one, which I've just started, which has become so highly recommended to me, one of my best friends messages me like every week, like, have you read it yet? Is In Memoriam by Alice Nguyen. I've heard of that of that but i have not read it i don't even know what that is it's a love story between two world war one soldiers and it's it starts off when they're at school and the war's just

starting out and you're hearing about all the people from their school that have like gone to the war and fought in the war and it starts as them as young boys and from the beginning there is this sort of like sensual sexual tension where you're like oh maybe these two are going to end up together I haven't got any further in but everyone who's read it has said it's one of those heartbreaking beautiful books I'm excited to get further into that I am coming to you from about 13 pages in so just just to clarify that's my playbook as well when I recommend books first word it's yes or no I was gonna say the way you guys are recommending books I was like they're eating it up week on week it's yes or no I was gonna say the way you guys are recommending books I was like

they're eating it up week on week it's terrifying how much time have they got in their lives I was just like I'm doing something so wrong I must be doing something so wrong no you've got a life I did I did want to say about High Fidelity I remember starting that series was it like a COVID-y time thing because it feels like a it feels like to me i was watching it in the pandemic either that or it's been lumped into pandemic memories because it's pre those times do you remember um when was it made let me find out for you i just think tiger king's all i think of in the pandemic i may destroy you as well night oh sorry there's another one that was in 1999 i'm like that's not right

that's a film they made into a film the film that's not the right one yeah yeah the oh the film's excellent oh you're right it was 2020 when they did the series i thought it was older than that oh my god i haven't watched high fidelity the film should i be watching that as well oh you definitely should you like it i tried to watch a bit of the original film i think because he's one of those male characters who's really self-indulgent and feels really sorry for himself I had such a tough time with it it really is like that Philip Roth kind of main character energy kind of um Woody Allen-esque male main character who's just like constantly feeling like he's fucked over by the women in his life and never

takes any accountability so I think it probably came at a very wrong point in my life because it really just went down the wrong way for me. But the TV adaptation I really liked and I don't get why they cancelled it. It was a massive crime to pop culture. Yeah, because it also, you're right, even the book reading it, that is the idea. It's so much more likable in a woman. And again, it's like her beautifulness and the way that she dresses, her outfits are very sort of like American apparel, that these little kind of pleated tennis skirts with, not Dr. Martens, what are they called? With vans and like band t-shirts.

I genuinely, it's made me want to change my whole wardrobe and also get more tattoos. But back to the book thing quickly, Richa, I have set myself the challenge to try and read a book a week. So a week? I set myself this challenge like most years. I've never done it, but I did it once, I think, in the pandemic or pre-pandemic,

I did 52 books in a year. And then I didn't do it the last couple of years, but I set it for myself because I start off really strong and then I usually give up. I think that's so impressive. We did do reading goals last year, but I don't think we ever circled back

and talked about them. And I won't dredge it all up again, but it's nice to set goals. In an attempt not to make this the most confusing segment I will I was going to comment on high fidelity but then that would be going back and forth and then coming back to the we're on books now I do want to say though John Cusack John Cusack John Cusack who's in the high fidelity film which is difficult to watch but I actually loved even though he's quite stressful I went back and watched that recently I also watched Serendipity which is him and who's Kate Beckinsale and it's just actually a really lovely kind of bonkers very early 2000s rom-com where have you both seen it no I haven't seen that I

used to watch Serendipity like over and over and over again I was obsessed with it I would watch it like once a week isn't it but I don't know how old I was maybe like again. I was obsessed with it. I would watch it like once a week. So comforting, isn't it? But I don't know how old I was. Maybe like a teenager. I was obsessed. I think it holds up. I watched it recently and he is such a, you can't have male hot leads like that

because he's hot in a way that is not 2020's hot, if that makes sense. Like he has got such charm to his face. He's beautiful, but he is also, I just think they wouldn't allow it in this day and age.

So when you said High Fidelity, I was like, do you know who I love John freaking Cusack do you know it's what it is I saw a tweet about this they don't let men have hair anymore like men aren't allowed a big gorgeous mop of hair they always have to have like short back and sides no one is doing the like Hugh Grant hair someone posted a thing like why do we not have heartthrobs like this anymore I think it's the hair oh we should do a deep dive on male hair we should in rom-coms male hair and pop culture what have you both been loving I have been loving search party the tv series starring alia shortcut have you guys heard about this because I'd basically had this show in my periphery for years and just had kept putting it off, kept putting it off, had a gap in my TV rotor and added it in and it's so good.

Exactly the same story. I know it's critically acclaimed. People rave about it and that has made me, I don't know, scared. I kind of want to give it, maybe like I'm waiting for a little break in my own TV roster so I can give it like my full, full attention. But I actually don't know anything about it not one thing apart from Alia Shaw cut being in it so I would recommend that you go in quite blind but I mean for the sake of this being a pop culture podcast I will obviously talk about this

but cut now listener and jump forward two minutes so essentially it really has a similar kind of sense of humor to girls it It's kind of ridiculous, very telling about the times we're in, very online internet jokes, and the kind of nonsense of, I guess, therapy speak and how we communicate with other people. But the main premise is a group of friends, the main character, Alia's character, is just kind of failing at life. She's in her flop era. Somebody goes missing from her life. She's in her flop era. Somebody goes missing from her college. She didn't really have a relationship to this girl.

She just finds out about it, I think probably through social media. And she takes it upon herself to solve the crime. So it really is a commentary on true crime and the kinds of people who find themselves making their identity a true crimer. And also, it's just so creative, because I won't say what happens, but it doesn't really even become about solving the case. It becomes about so much more. And then it flips the script, flips the genre, becomes about the interpersonal dynamics. It's very funny, very darkly funny too. I think you'll love it. I am the same as you, Beth. What is it with me with tv shows and stuff I seem to only want to watch things I've either already watched or that really well established when things are new I'm quite resistant apart from one of our segments

today which I jumped on the minute it was like available I almost watched it at five in the morning anyway I will be watching this in 10 years great it's on BBC iPlayer it's like we're sort of edging it. Like, do you know what I mean? It's like, I know something's going to be really good. So I kind of don't want to do it too soon. Side note, I just Googled the, I Googled search party because I wanted to see who else is in it. And the poster of it, I was like, oh my God, Jamie from Made in Chelsea is in it.

It's not Jamie from Made in Chelsea. It's a comedian called John Early, who is amazing. But I was like, I just had that moment. I was like, it's Jamie. It's Jamie Lang. But it's not Jamie Lang also fun fact Burger from Sex and the City is in it too no way so nice little throwback for you I'm just trying to look up this poster and I can't see anyone that looks like Jamie oh I've looked up a 2014 comedy film nope it's not it can I just say one more thing about edging TV I've got the absolute opposite of you where I have started edging the end of a series for every TV show I watch.

I never finish them. I never want to find out how they end because I'm too scared to deal with it. Me too. Do you relate? I'm exactly the same. I'm exactly, exactly the same. I always cut out maybe like three before the end.

It's like, I think we have the same neurosis, Richa. I swear. High levels of avoidance. If I'm in i'm usually i'm usually in prison break i don't know how that ends oh yeah but prison break was so long also if it's difficult when the series when you watch them as they're coming out because it's when like handmaid's tale i was so into that then they're leaving you hanging for like four years and i tried to get back into it and i've been i have no idea where we left so yeah that's hard I'm honestly talking about Rivals I don't know how Rivals ended I never finished it what yeah sorry no no okay this I can't relate to I had to see that I it's because I know that I'll watch the next series but like if it was the final series I wouldn't have seen that I would

be exactly the same but god we're weird yeah so what have you been loving anyway so what I have been loving and again a massive hit of 2020 it is an audiobook and it is the midnight library by Matt Haig as read by Kerry Mulligan and I did debate finding something else because I was like one everyone on the planet has read this it's a bit embarrassing it's kind of like a soft what I've been loving because I just needed the comfort from what I knew to be this is my my first listen ever. What I knew was going to be quite comforting, quite real. It's going to be well-rounded. It was really well reviewed. I'm going to like it. But I've got to be honest on this podcast, that's the only thing I've really been consuming, apart from all fours by Miranda July, which we are not going to talk

about now because Anoni has already mentioned it. And we are going to do it all together, I think, as a book club, which we will announce very soon, hopefully. So this is what I've got this week. Midnight Library. Have either of you read it? I'm going to be surprised if the answer's no. Oh God, it's no. I have read it.

I think that Karen Mulligan would be amazing. I think, do you know what it is with that book? I know what you mean. It's ever so slightly wishy-washy soft, but I loved the concept. The idea, Ruchira, basically is is it's it is a woman isn't it I read it years ago now yeah a woman who is suicidal and she she gets to see all of the ways that her life could have played out she gets to go to the midnight library and basically pick

a book and I don't know if you ever do this as a thought experiment but like it's a nice thing to read and I actually think it's a great concept but Matt Haig is very commercial so it's I guess it's not the most challenging book but I actually did really I did really enjoy it and I actually think it's a great concept but Matt Haig is very commercial so it's I guess it's not the most challenging book but I actually did really I did really enjoy it and I bet Carrie Mulligan reading it is quite lovely actually oh she's so she has my favorite kind of posh voice it's like soft it's buttery it's like Fortnum and Mason butter it's just like it just goes through you it's so but in a good way it's so lovely that sounds delicious quickly on all fours are you listening to that or are you reading that I'm reading it but you did you you talked up the audio but quite a lot so I do know at some point on my reread because I know

I'll be rereading this on my reread I am going to listen to it that any in six months to a year's time that's going to be my treat oh my god also I forgot I read in the dream house on both your recommendations which I won't go into again because I did a review of it on Instagram but then I was looking on Spotify and I because I actually got rid of my audible and I wanted to see if they had it on Spotify that is on Spotify you can get with a premium subscription pretty much every book is on there did you really yeah 15 hours worth a month though or maybe less so I always start a book and then it and then it's like you've run out and I'm like oh you mother oh that's harsh but it is very good so check the times on the audiobook because it will burn you if you're a really critical point

you're like ah okay that's so cheeky that is so funny right so I haven't used it yet but someone mentioned someone mentioned to me they listened to my book on Spotify. So I was like, oh my God, I wonder what's on there. And I was just looking at stuff. And I just thought that this meant I had a free catalogue of every single book. I didn't realise that makes more sense. I was like, how does this work? Okay, so you get a managed amount every month.

But it's still good. Yeah. Can I ask how long your audiobook is? I know any of you know off the top of your head. Because mine is definitely well under 15 hours not very long four hours maybe so listeners at home could listen to could listen to yours yeah plug plug plug plug plug so we have spoken about motherland numerous times on this podcast the 2016 british sitcom was about a group of middle-class mothers living in Queen's Park. I am a self-professed fangirl and so could not contain my excitement

about its spinoff, Amanda Land. Although I was actually really initially quite sad that Anna Maxwell Martin wouldn't be reprising her leading role of Julia and Diane Morgan as Liz, Lucy Punch and Joanna Lumley as mother and daughter duo are more than enough to be getting on with. The new six part series follows Amanda, the leader of the alpha mums from the original show with her perfectly blow dry blonde hair, insufferable lack of self awareness. And yet she's also somehow weirdly endearing. And she's now divorced and has relocated from Chiswick to South Halston with her teenagers. And she's someone who prizes status above everything else. So downsizing and taking our kids out of private school is quite a big hit to her ego.

And when she arrives in South Harleston or Sohar, as she rebrands it, she realizes that Anne, her former psychic and glorified unofficial assistant, also lives there. The sitcom is produced by another love of my life, namely Sharon Horgan. And basically follows Amanda as she deals with modern motherhood horrors like teenage drinking, fake Instagram accounts, and eco-anxiety, as well as trying to establish herself as an interiors influencer, although she says she's not an influencer, with her new business, which is called Sensuous. And Joanna Lumley plays plays Felicity her mother is her best self she's very Ab Fab-esque as an ex-model and there's other new cast members too such as Line

of Duty's Reshenda Sandal and Samuel Anderson from Gavin and Stacey and the History Boys. The show has enormous boots to fill so I wanted to turn to both of you because I know you're huge fans of Motherland and I wanted to ask what are you both making of it so far? I completely agree with you. There was a bit of sadness that some characters have been left behind. But Amanda just, oh, she's just so good. And I think bringing back Anne was perfect. There's just enough of that nostalgia whilst completely flipping the script

that I feel like there is that continuity. And also, oh God, I've only watched one episode but it's so funny it's so good I'm so so happy to be back in the world of Motherland I cannot tell you I've watched the whole season and okay listeners it came out today I have a job I have watched i just sat there and you know when one finishes and bbci players like i'm just gonna i'm just gonna give you 15 seconds i'm gonna load up the next one i'm just like yep i want the next one on the next one so that's my shameful moment but i'm so enjoying it i think amanda was the perfect person to base the spin-off off there's no one else i mean i would have watched kevin ladd i would have watched anything or whoever who based the spinoff off. There's no one else. I mean, I would have watched Kevin Ladd. I would have watched anything. Or whoever, who's the woman, the school woman who like always writes

them late? I love her. Mrs. something. I don't know. I would have watched Her Land. I would have watched anyone's land. I just think she's this complex character in that like, she's so cocky. She's so like egregiously annoying. She's so like swaggering, but also like she's all of that the other way as well. Like she's so unsure unsure she's so kind of desperate at times and what I love about this series in its entirety is you really get to see that side of her that like really hidden bubbling below the surface kind of hating herself but striving side I thought it's so good it's so good it's so good I know I also can't believe that mother lamb is two series because I watched it over and over again I think I've watched both series because it's one of those things kind of like friends the kind of show that I can have on in the background then pop out and

be like oh I haven't noticed that before I think the thing that makes this so good which I was scared wouldn't be the same is just the one-liners it's so funny and it works on so many levels because you've got her snobbery and like her class consciousness and they there's so much levity in it but there's actually loads of depth as well and I just think it is so so funny and also they've kind of tapped into a bit of like a Schitt's Creek narrative where you've got this massive hubris moment where she's gone from being this shiny leader of the pack of the mums to living in a flat there's a really funny line where she's talking about her neighbor and she's like he lives below me because he's very much beneath me and there's just all these like amazing lines in the show I'm only four episodes in I would have watched

more but I did actually I was doing my job as well yeah I hate that would have rather just done that what what specifically is it do you think about about Motherland and Amanda Land that works so perfectly? And why do you think we need it? I feel like there's such a dearth of these kind of British sitcoms at the minute. So I'm pleased to see it's back. I feel like it's poking fun at the middle class. So it kind of feels like a victimless crime. And also it does it in a way that isn't poking fun. It's kind of all laughing together at the situation of motherhood and the frazzled panic of it all and the strange friendships and allegiances you build through the soul shared experience of having a child like I feel like there's so much about parenting that

is ridiculous and I actually spoke to Philippa Dunn this week so I have a piece coming out in Grazia speaking to the person who plays Anne and she says that she started the series not having a child. So she had no idea. Is this exaggerated? Is it fantastical? She has a child during the series and she's made painfully aware that every single part of it is just accurate. And if you don't have a sense of humor, you will just crumble and cry in a corner of the house locked away from your child. I think it does do that so well, doesn't it does and obviously we're not mothers and we try and talk about motherhood in as a respectful way as possible but like you don't know until you know but it is so as a child free person in my 30s navigating none of this I find it so relatable

and I think it is like the dynamics these like very fleshed out dynamics like the one that she has with her aging mum played by Joanna Lumley whose name in this i can't remember um and they have this really like fraught but very funny relationship where in this her mom's like resisting having a carer because she's very like self-possessed and very independent but it's also at the same time really leaning on amanda who has very little bandwidth to deal with this because she also has teenagers slap bang in the middle of like adolescence. And it's like, on the one hand, her mum's here kind of drawing her energy. On the other hand, she's trying to like hustle the kids out the door.

And it's like, oh my God, mothers are so worn on. They're like bookending the needs of like an elderly parent of young children. And so often like you do have a mother in the center of that performing acts of care that, I'm going to be honest, for the most part, I see as invisible because they're so, with my own parents, I'm so used to them. And it's only when you look at it from another angle, you're like, oh my God, every single thing has been thought out. Every single thing requires someone to engineer it and to choreograph it and I think a lot of women will be watching this mothers grandmothers wives and see something of themselves and it is like you say it's like dealing with it with levity it's just a brilliant way to communicate like very real

social dynamics and family dynamics that a lot of us take totally for granted. Can I also reference Anne and Amanda's friendship, the most toxic thing on this earth, which is so relatable from school memories of having a best friend who treats you like absolute dirt, but you just let it go because you are almost in the rays of their sunshine and you just, you can't imagine life any other way. But that's school.

So seeing it play out with, you know, grown ass women who have children is so funny. It's so unbelievably funny seeing that play out into adulthood. And just that feeling of, oh, you don't really ever escape high school or mean girls or any of that kind of behavior. You just transport it into your adult life, into the playground, into, you, into the parenthood circles. I think that's what's so clever about the writing is not only do they play on these really well-known stereotypes and archetypes. There's one part in the initial episode, I think, where you have these queer parents who are bringing up their children in a much

more relaxed household where they allow them to drink. And then you have Amanda's character and Anne's characters who are more strict and really horrified at the repercussions. And I even remember that at school where you'd have like these really chilled parents. My parents were not those parents. I used to go around to their houses, get paralytic. My parents would absolutely kill me. And so there's all of these things playing out at the same time as the characters being so well fleshed out. So it's not, it doesn't feel like a caricature, even though they're playing on a stereotype because the characters are so believable and the idea that you said about bookending Beth I think is what gives Amanda Land strength that I was worried it wouldn't have because it's added

this new dimension and I even watch it with like my sister and my mum when my sister's like parenting her daughter and then my mum's like saying something about her and then me and my sister will talk about how my mum parented us in relation to how she's parented her kids. And so it's so, even though it's a spinoff, it immediately, I think from the first episode, felt like something new and fresh and something that was going to go in a different direction. And the new setting and everything works really well. I'm excited to watch more of the episodes. The only thing I will say is I love that the initial series really centred around those friendships. Even though you would have the other scenes, it would always kind of come back to them with Kevin sat by the loo in that room,

in that cafe rather. And this one is a bit more situation-based in each episode, which I think is really strong. But I do kind of love it when TV shows don't necessarily, nothing much happens. It's just really character-centered. But I think those are probably harder to get made now. we don't seem to see as much of that anymore yeah the character of johannes played by peter saraphinowicz who i think his wife actually writes on amanda land don't know if she wrote on motherland

as well who plays and you'll meet him soon if you haven't already retired the south african property developer who slides into um amanda's dms and he's such a big, he's such a big actor. Like he's such a well-known face and in this just plays this kind of cock, but he's got a bit of complexity, but like he's such a highlight for me. And I'm sad. I'm so sad we can't see him interact with like Julia and with Liz.

He's so funny. And it's kind of a shame actually because he's doing this very funny, very good, very comic South African accent. But Peter's accent in real life is maybe my favorite accent, my favorite voice on the planet. Like just so good. And it's just, I think it shows what a show this is. Like just such a good get.

I know, I think his wife, I mentioned his wife writes on it, but such a good get for this. I think people recognize within that industry, like Sharon Horgan's an amazing creator. You'd want to be attached to that, but it's just such a hot property and when he arrived I was like okay I have arrived I was so locked in from that I think that's why I didn't stop his his wife Helen is the co-creator oh the co-creator I see I didn't know that that is amazing what a powerhouse couple those two if they wanted to buy me a drink across the bar I would be in I want to meet them both so I was gonna say one of my favorite tv tropes is having the character who has the least self-awareness get confronted by things constantly and just seeing how they react

and almost like the facade slips but then seeing how they double down triple down and go further and further back into delusion it really reminds me of Marnie from Girls when she's out on her lurk and then starts doing the Kanye West song at Charlie's big business meeting it is just like the way these characters triple down on delusional thinking and behavior it's so so compelling to watch. It's so funny. It's so deeply hilarious. And Lucy Punch is just so exceptional at playing this character. She plays it in such a way that it is campy, it is melodramatic, but it's that level of believability. I've seen this woman before. I swear to God, I've seen her in Stoke Newington. She's so good. Her comedic timing, even the physicality, her facial expression,

she's so perfect as her. I don't think I can ever not see her as Amanda now. That is just who I believe that she is. I was going to say, Peter Serafinowicz, I swear, is known for being like this incredible person for putting on accents. But his South African accent is awful. But you think that's intentional? It's so bad.

It's dreadful. I think it must be. I think it must be leaning into some sort of like pantomime at times because there's some you go yeah you've made an accent that no one has ever performed before and I have to believe that that is intentional for reasons of which I'm not quite sure because I'm sure I listened to him on an episode of Richard Herring's Leicester Square podcast where he he's always on that yeah so endlessly weaves in and out of accents that's one thing he's really known for so I remember thinking like when he first came on I was like why is this so bad

but it is it's very funny I'm trusting the process I'm getting confused because I've looked up this guy he has the same second name as Helen Serafinowicz who is the co-creator but they're not married to each other do you think that unless they used to be brother and sister I'm so confused let me look up Helen and see how they're related I need to find out the same second name but she's Graham Lineham's ex-wife she's he's married to a completely different woman she's the sister their brother and sister i mean i said it first i think i said it first that they are married well how are you supposed to know well i forget about brother and sisters i just know about sisters and sisters i forget people can have a brother oh that reminds me i cannot stop singing if you could speak to my brother. Have you seen this on TikTok?

That sounds really familiar. Yes, you know on TikTok. I don't know what the song is from, but what is happening. Is it from Annie? Is it from Annie? Yeah, I think. It's from a musical.

But basically what's happening is we get loads of white women with black husbands are doing this video being like, don't you come speak to my brother. It's really, it's... It's not appropriate in my mind. Yeah. It's a jump scare. It's everywhere. I can't get away from it's all over my feed amanda land is out now on bbci player let us know your thoughts binge it you will not be disappointed so this year's grammys was a fairly eventful night with just so many pop culture moments

happening that to discuss more properly would be impossible and probably take us to next week small recap kendrick lamar's drake diss won a prize beyonce finally got album of the year for cowboy carter sabrina carpenter vanished down some trick stairs. Jaden Smith turned up wearing Nosferatu's house on his head. And Taylor Swift just had an absolute ball. Two people who apparently did not stay long enough to enjoy themselves, however, were Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, and his wife, Bianca Sensori, who showed up, stood for photos, and then were apparently, if rumours are to be believed, asked to leave the ceremony

following Bianca's outfit reveal. So while West was dressed in head-to-toe black, including some very dark shades and boots, Bianca, after dropping her huge fur coat, revealed herself to be wearing nothing besides a pair of heels and a totally sheer mesh mini dress which revealed her naked or apparently naked body underneath. Bianca is currently the head of architecture at Ye's clothing company Yeezy and since the two got married in 2022 there have been quite a few instances of her being pictured with him, him wearing his own designs and his usual style and her in increasingly slight and small outfits. So that's a lot of sheer bodysuits, hosiery stockings and underwear worn as outerwear, very skin tight, very sheer, very little material. On a trip to Florence in 2023,

they caught a lot of controversy after she went outside and this is in a very conservatively catholic country wearing what appeared to be a pair of nude stockings pulled up high with just a purple pillow clutched in front of her to cover her chest and torso and early last year as well she was pictured outside of the recording studio with yay in la he was very bundled up i think it was a storm and she apparently wearing nothing besides some heeled boots and a clear rain poncho with, and again, reportedly just her phone in her hand being used to cover her crotch. But it certainly looked as though she was totally naked. But this Grammy's dress is perhaps the most controversial and possibly will be the most talked about of her looks yet. And so we're going to talk about it because it has upset people it's

outraged people it's divided people and there are a lot of really really incredibly strong opinions on it and what it means and whether this is a sign of something horrible and sinister happening in front of the world's eyes or if it's just a display from two people who are equally invested in giving a very good show so just just to start, I'm assuming you've both seen the images, uncensored or not. What were your initial reactions when you opened Twitter, opened Instagram and were confronted with Bianca's brand new look? My first initial reaction was shock at how not shocked I was to see her completely naked body also being posted in a way that I've

not seen on outlets. So I have seen her being reported wearing sheer tights and not much on, but every single time I've seen the images, like clicked on it, it's been pixelated. This is the first time that I saw every single image of her. And as you say, like apparently naked, but I'm fairly certain that she is completely nude. I was shocked. I have so much to say on naked but I'm fairly certain that she is completely nude I was shocked I have so much to say on this that I'm verging on being lost for words because it's it's such a mind fuck the whole thing because we have they've never publicly spoken about spoken about it there's never really been them saying and I guess I kind of feel like I'm waiting for the pin to drop for them hopefully I would love for her to turn around and say this has all been a project of my own to talk

about how a female body is art or something but for as long as they say nothing and she keeps seemingly being paraded around by yay I feel like a inadvertent voyeur and I feel like I've intruded on something which I don't want to have intruded on. Yeah, I agree. It's just been a year and a half or so of countless instances of her, you know, walking around in really small, barely there clothing, the pictures of her in his lap in Italy appearing to give him a blowjob and having, you know, paparazzi take pictures and that just going viral. And it's just so many things. And then this is just, I don't know, it just feels, it feels gross. It feels disgusting. I think voyeur is the right word. It just, it feels like somebody, somebody's nakedness, somebody's body being used as a tool for shock value,

even the way he's behaved and responded since, indicates that this is literally just a tool for being spoken about. The fact that he keeps doubling down and saying Bianca Sensori is more viral than the Grammys, that term is being searched more. It's like, we could all do these things if we wanted we could all resort to the lowest hanging fruit we could do all manner of horrendous egregious things in public and we would all be named in the media because of it is that interesting is it provocative or is it fucking obvious and at what point is there even a point to it, basically?

Is there a point parading around your wife and her body in this way and claiming that you're doing something interesting? I don't really understand why you would do that. It kind of indicates a complete lack of respect. That's what I think. What do you think? I think it's really interesting, actually, the point you made about his reaction to it, because I went and again looked at his stories as well.

And yeah, in the 24 hours afterwards, he was posting like endless stories, basically saying my wife is the most Googled person on earth. And because she has very little of a public social media presence or a persona beyond what we see at these events via him, and she's only active on social media when he is, both went dark they both reappeared for this and i think it's really telling that he was posting about how googled she was you know my wife most google person on earth and he wrote like for clarity february 4th 2025 my wife is the most googled person on the planet called earth and

it's like it's turning and he's done this in the past it's turning his adoration or his purported adoration of her back on himself for a birthday message, you know, that he did a few years ago, talking about how, you know, she was standing by his side when the world turned his back and she's his muse, she's everything like this. And it just spins it back on what it does for him and what it represents for him and how he looks and how he's kind of proximal to her quote unquote relevancy. Because like you say, it's not relevancy. In this world, if you turn up naked to one of the most televised and photographed events in the kind of cultural calendar year, as a very famous man, your wife will be, and she's wearing very little clothes, and you can see her nipples and whatever else,

she will be talked about. Men will Google Bianca Sansori uncensored they will google Bianca Sansori pictures other people out of sheer curiosity will probably do the same they'll want to get the story so I just think it's most googled because you both did something controversial involving nudity in front of cameras it's it's it doesn't mean that moniker of most googled actually it's hollow it doesn't mean anything I think it's one of those instances where you almost had to trust your gut reaction because women on red carpets it's not unusual for nipples to be visible or to people to wear complete sheer dresses people often don't show their vulva because it's not even legal I mean it's public indecency to be that naked and also I can't I don't really know most people probably would feel

very vulnerable in that state and there is something. It's the way that he's always so heavily clad. It's the pose of it and the way that she shrugs off the coat. And it just feels so wrong. And I posted this on my Instagram that I was like, I just never know what to feel about this. I still, again, feel really conflicted about the fact that so many publications were posting her fully nude body. I know that she's standing there, but I'm like, this needs to be censored. It's really freaking me out that this is just being posted everywhere. And lots of people in my DMs were saying that it feels like he's chosen this woman with a really great likeness to Kim Kardashian. And she's become even more similar as they've been dating. And loads of people saying that it feels like he is somehow got this like body double for Kim

Kardashian and against Kim Kardashian's will or without her consent is kind of showing her naked body. And I thought that was quite an interesting idea towards it. And it also made me think of the music video with Taylor Swift, the person that kind of looks like Taylor Swift in the bed. Famous. Yeah, and famous. And just this idea of him being like using Bianca as an actual means to humiliate Kim Kardashian. Obviously, all of this is speculation. And I also feel worried about ever saying about another woman's choices that it is completely dictated by a man because we're not in that position. And it's kind of, I guess,

the other end of the coin where women who choose to completely cover up and that might be their choice and people make assumptions around whether or not that is due to a man's decision. So I find this just particularly tricky, even though it is inherently icky. And my gut instinct said this isn't, thinks and feels that this isn't right. I just feel so sorry for her. But then I'm like, God, should I? It's really confusing because, again, there have been other women that are naked and I don't feel a kind of way about it. So it's interesting that I do. It's because she's silent that it adds

to this feeling of like she's completely voiceless and like you said she doesn't have the platform he does she is this unknown figure all we've seen are these really kind of distressing and provocative kind of deeply upsetting instances where she is constantly in a compromising position and he is not yet is never speaking out on it or never saying anything she just is so silent in the media which is I guess another element of distress to it because I don't know it just feels like if she is being the person who is exposing themselves is doing all of these provocative quote-unquote stunts she should be the one owning it if that is something that she is even owning the fact that he's constantly

reflecting it back on him holding a mirror back to whatever she's doing and saying but look at how it makes me look look at you know what it does for me I'm the one taking control of it it does feel icky it does feel like he constantly is taking control in these situations so I think that adds to it did you also see that in quite characteristic form he started trolling people who were calling it out on Instagram and there was one woman her username is at x chiara gliona sorry if I butchered that she basically was the top comment on his post saying it's an easy win when a man puts a naked woman on screen and she got over a thousand likes he basically then went through her personal instagram and reposted pictures of when she had posed naked

and then commented on them and just said easy win and kept doing that basically trolling people who were calling him out for it and finding ways that they had posed naked on their own personal social media or you know worn provocative clothing or whatever almost to say you're complete hypocrites and he we've known that he's he just acts in such a troll way you know throughout the past few years but it's just like now it's just turning in a very vicious way towards women it's just so clear that there's like a complete lack of respect towards women even ignoring bianca in this which is a hard thing to do the way he's turning on people calling him out for it and specifically going for them on the merit of you know oh well if you do this then what right do you have to call me out

it's just i don't know it's just gross it's a kind of false comparison of hypocrisy because what they're saying is you know this is we're worried i mean broadly what people are saying is you know the dynamics of this look worrying her nudity is not the same as someone posting on a social media site because here people look at the optics and they are looking at her potential discomfort they were looking at his history in terms of wanting to dress women treat them like dolls everything that he's ever said that is the difference it's dynamic it is that this is on a world stage versus on a private or a you know semi-private social media and as we've said nudity and fashion is not the problem like visible nipples is not the problem you know nude

dresses or see-through dresses those aren't the problem. There's such a rich history of that, of the female form especially being used as the kind of center of art. And the silhouette, the biblical art, the subversiveness of female nudity, we know the tits are political, vaginas are political. You can make a statement via the medium and the art of fashion that is not exploitative. And also, it can just be beautiful how many times have we talked about rihanna in the shirofsky crystal dress hunter schaefer with the feather like nudity is not the problem it's utilized it can be utilized well it comes and goes as a trend in fashion totally get it but i think something about this you're both right it feels distinctly different

than hunter schaefer i believe it was the after party or the of the oscars it feels very different to emirata at the met gala it feels very different than chrissy teigen in a black sheer dress that shows figure but you know she's an event by herself she is a woman standing in her own right almost and i think when we see bianca it's like one they're not protected inside these events. She doesn't speak. They're often outside in the elements, walking around a city, exposed to the general public, I mean, of which we are one.

And it's not the general public, kind of a nasty horde of whatever. But it is a level of visibility and vulnerability. While he is often, often his face is covered. Often he is wearing a shroud while she has got nothing on. She looks cold. It's not cozy rich people event. She's out in public. And maybe that is it.

It almost looks like he has, he's wearing the outfit. She is the accessory. And I really am struggling to see the other side because I, again, I don't want to be calling a woman's decisions just because they are different than mine kind of offensive to womanhood or she's subjugating herself she's doing this but it's the idea that maybe she's not and I don't want to then not call something out just out of fear of not appearing sufficiently feminist it's hard yeah I think it is that thing of vulnerability and the humiliation of it especially

when they're in countries that as you've spoken about are more conservative and she's walking around with a pillow and it's just like there is like you said you get so many great examples then of when nudity feels empowering and also what you said Richard about her silence if Lady Gaga wore that dress we would all completely understand the context with which she is coming to us in that outfit because we know so much about that woman if she had worn that exact outfit with some of her like really vertiginous heels I wouldn't have felt any kind of way about it but it is the fact that as you say she's like a mannequin she is an accessory to his outfit she in his mind seems to be modeling this kind of art and I have to say when she stood with her backs to the camera and she put the coat

down he's standing there it's a fantastic photograph I mean it's absolutely like the way it's orchestrated is is beautiful but it is like watching someone be completely dehumanized and stripped to an object and that was another thing that I found quite uncanny and disconcerting was when I watched the video I thought this is beautiful she really does look like a piece of art. And then my reaction to that was like, God, that's really weird. She's a woman. And there have been lots of kind of like blind items and supposed friends. I've read pieces over the years from friends in the Daily Mail reportedly, you know, giving lines about how she's such a different person. And I just, I wonder where this feels like the final frontier, like where can they go that's further than this? The nudity has been getting more and more nude, but you literally couldn't get more

naked than that dress unless she literally didn't have it on. But I mean, it's one and the same thing. I saw that he's now had a big gig cancelled in Japan and there was a piece about how he's really underestimated the Japanese public who feel completely like dishonored and find it so disrespectful what he did. So it is having impacts on him, maybe financially, obviously he's a very wealthy man, so maybe that won't be a big thing. But I just don't know, is there ever going to be a point to this? I know that like he talks

about the ways in which that's giving him infamy and making them really searched online, but it really does feel like he's wearing thin in terms of where he's going to go with it. And I do, it's also difficult because you see pictures of her as well with like Kim Kardashian's children. And so like you'll see pictures of her walking around carrying the kids. And so their relationship obviously bleeds deeper than what we see in these images. They must have some sort of like slight sense of normalcy. The fact that Kim Kardashian, you know, allows her children to be with them as a couple. I know that's quite complicated, but it's one of those things where it's like, what are we seeing and what are we not seeing?

And how much are we being tricked or played with as the public? And that's, I think, maybe also what makes us feel quite uncomfortable is it does very much feel like we are being somehow tested and it's difficult to know which route to go down. One thing I will say, and again, it's difficult territory because I don't

want to be pandering to a woman who is two years younger than I am, but she just turned 30, I think, last month. He is almost 50. She's obviously an adult woman, but there's such a disparity in terms of access and experience to fame. He has, despite everything that he's said and done has a very loyal army of fans he has accumulated great personal wealth he has been mega famous since she was a child i think college dropout was released when she was about eight or nine years old whereas her fans will primarily have bled from his obviously fans is not the most important you know metric when judging person's happiness or safety or support. But I think it's well worth imagining a future where this 30-year-old woman down the line feels differently about this period of her life.

And with the way that the internet is, these things do exist forever. People's opinions are kind of set in amber and set in stone very early on. And when it comes to provocative acts, those things linger in memory in a way that other achievements don't. And I do think this will be, if they were to break up, a smallish note in kind of his career history and everything he's done, but potentially will overshadow a lot of what she goes on to do. And I think he was saying something about wanting to market and sell the dress as a kind of Yeezy product, which I know that she's the head architecture at Yeezy, but I hope she is making a significant amount of money because she's the one that is wearing this.

She is the one that's shifting units, the one that is the face of these, if they are just viral marketing campaigns, if they are art stunts, she is the one doing the heavy lifting and i just think famous men can do anything and it's background noise a famous man can have a manslaughter charge and it's like barely relevant whereas i do think this this will be the defining era of her life even if it's the least accomplished even if she goes on to do all the things that she wants to do and I think that's just well worth thinking about it's very sad you would have to but I just think it's I think it it matters maybe not when you think of Kim Kardashian and and you know her sex tape which is actually very infrequently referenced now and she's gone on to be I think I think that there is some parallel I think there is some points and what people said to me about the similarities between Kim Kardashian. Maybe this is the whole project to see how far a woman's

sexuality can propel them into further fame. I guess you don't know. Even if I do find it really difficult to look at, I also cannot look away. So a bit of a palate cleanser. I think one of the more gorgeous moments from the grammys was tampa rapper dochi getting her well-deserved flowers winning best rap album and in the process becoming one of three women to win the award historically which is crazy the others were cardi b in 2019 and lauren hill in 1997 here at Is Content, we are Dochi fans 100%, so we thought it was high time to just spend, you know, as long as we can, as long as we want, raving about her and her 2024 album, Alligator Bites Never Heal. Before we do just that, I wanted to highlight

some bits of her incredible Grammys speech, which she dedicated to black girls and women. Quote, I put my heart and my soul into this mixtape. I bared my life. I went through so much. I dedicated myself to sobriety and God told me he would reward me and show me just how good it could get. I know there are some black girls out there, so many black women out there that are watching me right now. And I want to tell you, you can do it. Anything is possible. Don't allow anyone to project any stereotypes on you. Tell you that you can't be God, that still gives me chills. But what did you think of her speech and her winning best rap album? Well, I thought her speech was amazing and so moving.

And loads of people have been sharing like little videos of her as well and clips from when she said like, oh, I'm just going to quit my job and see if I can get this job doing this thing. And then you fast forward to now and she's done so well. I am such a big fan of rap, which I know sounds really funny coming out of my posh white mouth, but it is one of my favorite art forms. And I think when you get a good rap artist who has this way with words and this lyrical genius, it's probably one of the most satisfying things to listen to because it's just like, you cannot believe the speed with which she talks. And Denial is a River, I know it's gone so viral, but the first time I heard it, I was like, oh, this is a banger. And it's not every time that

you hear a new song that straight away you're completely enamored by it. And it doesn't matter how many times I listened to it. I just think she's so clever. And I think it's really exciting as well to have like a new female rap artist come up because I think the pop girlies have been doing amazing. We have been absolutely inundated and spoiled, but to have this new generation of a black female rap artist winning an award that, you know, as she says, so few women before her have won, it's incredible. So I just can't wait to hear what happens next. And also, as she says, you know, she's opening doors for more people. So I think that that means hopefully in the future, we're going to have some even more incredible music from her and others. It's such a good point about rap being just

satisfying because it is a convergence of so many different talents it's like wordsmithry wait is that wordsmithry i'm going to say it wordsmithry it is it's performance it's kind of like breathwork flow it's just smart it's being so culturally on the money and like you cannot engineer that in a lab like it's just it just shows the dedication to what you do that is unbelievable i loved the speech i loved especially like cardi b handing over that award like beautiful moment two women excelling in what is a very male dominated field and also against the backdrop of a very kind of white industry the establishment is very white it is very geared towards what people think sells and the kind of dominant

ideologies and it takes a long time to catch itself up and so it's and the kind of dominant ideologies. And it takes a long time to catch itself up. And so it's beautiful to kind of see the award passing between two women who have made it, who have been in their own time and in their moment, been given some of the respect and some of the celebration that they deserve. Obviously, it's never going to approach, it's never going to be a true reflection of how hard they have worked like you know both of them putting in six years seven years a decade of work to get to a point but it was very nice and I do think a lot of shit is very bad right now no need to go into any detail but this felt like really pure good news that has been quite energizing like I think we needed this I think we needed to see someone worthy be celebrated and like it feels like the best is yet to come and like her clutching

her chest her kind of looking to the sky I just thought like this is pure joy joy I'm seeing right now and I just cemented I really really love her me too I'm gonna butcher this name but you mentioned Denial is a River, impeccable song. My other favorite is Nisan Altima. I don't know, I probably said that completely wrong, but the minute that comes on, you are slapped across the face and you're like, oh, this is a song. This is a song. This is a fucking song. She's so good. And I completely agree with you both. It is just one of those few pop culture stories that are so joyous she kind of has had what I feel like is a chapel rowan-esque year where the come up has been

meteoric and so fast just in this last bit and suddenly out of nowhere everyone I know just knows her and I'm so pleased for her it is so fun to be part of that ride it's so good to be part of that kind of come up journey and I'm so glad that she's got her flowers for it Rolling Stone in their review of her album said her varied vocal tics and beat selections are often akin to Kendrick Lamar's and I think that's so true kind of almost like Doja Cat as well she manipulates her voice in a way that feels like you never know what's coming every song feels so different it feels so I don't know mood wise sound wise beat wise all of it sounds so different and a lot of that is just her voice and what she's doing to it which is exceptional so exceptional and also the humor I love it when

I love it when rappers are so funny in their songs and they literally make you laugh out loud she does that like several times over I something I really liked and this is in it's through the album it's also in danal is a river when she is right she's kind of singing about this like maya of fear that she's in she's kind of singing through her own mental process and like this fear of failing this fear this fear of success as well and like the fear of her own mind like her own mental health and these intrusive thoughts when she's like you know talking about smoking a cigarette i think she's gonna blow the car up while she's pumping gas and i think there's a lot to relate to in terms of like the tricks a human mind can play and she does it again in such a comic way when you're like god this is so relatable this is so funny this is so real it's

like it's just a beautiful album it's like when you are staring down success i think it's often like forget about failing like can i handle this can i handle down success, I think it's often like forget about failing. Like, can I handle this? Can I handle when things get big? And it's almost like, well, I hope so, because she is a star. It's almost like listening to a memoir, like the way that she talks and like thinking back on things. It's so clever. And every single time I listen to each of the songs, there's like new bits to listen

to, new lyrics that hit differently. And you've written down, have you read out that line that you've written down withorics that's so good the Carrie Bradshaw one did you read that out yeah so I made sure to note this down because I literally like spat out my drink when I first heard this I'm like Carrie Bradshaw with a back brace on I've been carrying you bitches now for way too long it's oh there's so many references but then as you say that there's also like all of these just like common neuroses that we all experience and it's that that's the that's the mark of an artist always whether it's in comedy whether it's in writing whether it's in songs is that ability to observe yourself and others and the way that we move through worlds into the world and sometimes it's in the most

mundane silly moments but again that lyricism of like put it I just find rap so clever I love it when it's like they go from one thing to another and then you're like, oh my God, how did you get from A to B? And I'm so happy that you took me there with you. And I just think, yeah, it's great. One more review from The FT who gave her album four stars. Quick fire wordplay is the dominant focus here and it's a genuine delight.

The rapper is irreverent, raunchy and frequently hilarious. At 26, she has something to prove, but it's arguably to herself rather than wider music industry this collection includes several songs from her youtube series swamp sessions where she apparently timed herself to write each track within an hour the results are dance floor bangers such as boom bap i thought that fact about some of the songs just being her having written them within an hour were in i thought that was insane I had no idea it's so insane it is just unbelievable talent and it's such a long album it's such a generous album I know we've slagged off long albums on the podcast before and gotten lots of

trouble for it but it's such a generous output I was listening to and I was like oh I could just drive and drive and drive listening to this I really like the kind of R&B turns I think it's like slide I really like a slide because it has that kind of like R&B tempo it's like very smooth it's very heady it makes me want to like yeah get in the car and just drive and drive and drive away from like a failed love affair but like with a hope that like I'm gonna get into this mess again I thought that was amazing I just think her styling and her kind of stage presence was incredible. And it was a big trend on Twitter and people going, talking about her different eras and being like, this is when I met Dochi, this is when I met Dochi. And it is incredible to have that many kind of fully

fleshed out aesthetics. It's just like her artistry is very full and her sounds are very fleshed out and it's sort of worlds away from what she's ended up with but i guess that is just evolution and progression and then there's that imagery of her there's one on the album cover where she is holding the kind of albino gator and then there's another one where she's holding the same gator and she's like beaming really big i don't i think that's just i guess like a b-side or something. And it's just so, I think she's from Tampa. So it makes sense to pick that. It's a very cohesive image.

And like Tampa, Florida is, if ever you hear a story of like an alligator prowling down the street or like bursting out of someone's toilets, it's either Louisiana or it's Tampa, Florida. Like it just feels like a very smart, very cohesive choice. Not everyone could pull off holding this kind of like floppy white.

It looks like a big fat baby gator. Like I would look like an enormous baby at the zoo. Whereas she just looks so cool. And I think that's what I'm taking away from her is she is just so, so cool. I think her and her backup dancers all in Tom Brown in those kind of knee-high suits with the blazers and looking super preppy when they were doing her performance it's just yeah you're so right the aesthetics are so interesting they're so bang on they're I don't know that she's just constantly pushing the boat out in different ways and visually even

ignoring the music it's just so fun to watch there are so many elements to what she's doing oh I'm just obsessed I I cannot wait to see what she does next also I just need her to come to the UK I know she's doing all points east yeah yeah I need her to do a single gig and I need the tickets to be priced low for me specifically so I can go I wonder if she'll do Glastonbury I'm not going to be such a for me specifically so I can go I wonder if she'll do Glastonbury I'm not going to be such a good girl I'm not going either oh okay that's a great I'm not going either so I hope she doesn't just um well maybe everything's content will be at Glastonbury hello Glastonbury why not um the just to go back to her Grammys performance actually the Grammys

in general because I know that we spoke a lot about Bianca but this Grammys I'm sorry every single performance was a feast for the eyes I thought everyone was incredible I felt so spoiled with the level of talent we've got from especially all of the women but I just thought every single one was wow I was completely wowed and completely fixated and even I'm just quite excited about the music area and like Lady Gaga with Abracadabra as well which I cannot just stop singing oh so so good it's so good it's such an exciting time for female musicians and we've just got such a a depth and breadth of stuff coming out and it feels competitive but it also feels collegiate like all of those singers and performers and artists have quite different styles and all of

their performances were captivating in really different ways they really did their own thing but it doesn't feel like anyone's beefing. It just feels like a really good time for music. Except for Drake and Kendrick, of course. Oh, of course. Well, the men will be men. The Real Housewives of the Grammys. And Drake is outside the club looking in at this point.

Forget that clown. Oh my God. I mean, the whole crowd going, A minor. I was like, oh yeah. Oh, truly. It's a sickness to be Drake right now truly it truly but also the funniest thing I saw was like someone being like Taylor Swift is like jiving with her champagne in the air when he's going up on stage and they're like from one hater to another because she is a born hater thank you so so much for listening and remember as well as these friday episodes you can also

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