Everything Is Content - Blocking celebs, Bumble's fumble & the ill-fated portal

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Our Beth is in Bermuda this week - but don’t worry, as far as we’re aware she hasn’t got lost in the triangle - so join Ruchira and Oenone for this week’s episode of Everything Is Content! We will be unpacking digital activism, as a movement to block celebrities gains momentum. We’ll also be analysing the huge kerfuffle caused by Bumble’s billboard campaign this week as well as peering into the New York to Dublin portal. Next week we’ll be doing the first out two beauty specials - starting with a deep dive into the world of makeovers. Subscribe so you don’t miss it. Love ya! —MEG WOLITZER: The Female Persuasion NETFLIX: Buying London trailer SABRINA CARPENTER: EspressoTHEM: I Asked a Grammarian to Help Me Unpack “That’s That Me Espresso”X: I’m looking for a man in finance INDEPENDENT: Why followers are blocking global celebrities and their businesses on social mediaTHE GUARDIAN: More than 100 acts quit Great Escape music festival in solidarity with PalestineTHE CUT: Bumble’s Anti-Celibacy Campaign Is Not Going Over WellINDEPENDENT: Bumble apologises for celibacy ads: ‘We made a mistake’THE GUARDIAN: Smiles, waves and flashed body parts: video portal links Dublin and New York STYLE CASTER: Sabrina Carpenter Got Her 25th Birthday Dress On DepopBBC: Upgraded ChatGPT teaches maths and flirts - but still glitchesPRIME VIDEO: Her —Follow us on Instagram:@everythingiscontentpod @beth_mccoll @ruchira_sharma@oenone ---Everything Is Content is produced by Faye Lawrence for We Are GrapeExec Producer: James Norman-FyfeMusic: James RichardsonPhotography: Rebecca Need-Meenar Artwork: Joe Gardner  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

your nails are fab do you just let them down no i just did them myself that's so nice they're real yeah i'm richara i'm anoni and this is everything is content the show that's going to fill the pop culture podcast shaped hole in your life beth is usually her too but she's in Bermuda. Don't worry she hasn't got lost in the triangle as far as we know. She'll be popping in with some voice notes in this episode. Every week we get together to chat to you about the most interesting pop culture stories of the week. Nothing's off limits, books, films, red carpets, TikTok arguments. We have a lot to say about it all. We are the hand massage at the end of your content manicure. Make sure you're subscribed and if you love the podcast please tell a friend about it,

it really helps us out. Today on the podcast we'll be discussing the digital guillotine, Bumble's disastrous marketing campaign and the Dublin New York portal. What was the point? So shall we find out what best we're loving this week over in Bermuda? Hello. So this week I have been loving a book called The Female Persuasion by Meg Wallitzer. And real EIC heads will have seen on our Instagram page a few weeks ago, one of my picks was another book by Meg Wallitzer called The Interestings, which was a fantastic novel about the intersecting lives of a group of teenagers who meet at summer camp

and continue to know each other for a really long time. And this does something similar. It's about a college student called Greer who meets a much older female writer, feminist, quite a famous woman called Faith Frank. And it charts their you know, their lives side by side as they know each other with these beautiful kind of woven in chapters from the other key characters. It's a few years old, has a really feminist tilt to it, unsurprisingly, given the

title. And yeah, it's just a really great exploration of femaleness and womanhood and how we love each other and fail each other sort of reminded me of Cleopatra and Frankenstein by Coco Mella and the amazing Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow so yes I doled this book finished it this morning cried and I'm highly recommending it to everyone listening that sounds good have you read that Ruchira no I haven't read it I haven't read any books by that author but Beth really sold it right at the end when she said about how women fail each other and you know the joy they can bring to each other that sounds right up my street what about you no I haven't read any Meg Waller's about I've definitely heard of her and I'm glad that Beth brought in something high

brow because what I've been loving this week is um quite the opposite what is it go on pray tell all well I don't even know if this counts this feels quite illegal as a suggestion because what I've been loving well what I've been loving is the trailer for a show that's not out oh god what is it what is it buying London oh my gosh it's coming up really soon oh basically I watched the trailer with my friend Poppy came to Paris and we hung over and we're like oh my god this show looks great we'll watch a bit of this this morning before heading out on our pristine adventure but it was just the trailer but it's like a really long trailer so it was like it felt like a mini show and it's basically the british equivalent of selling sunsets but it's like obviously in london and one thing that i will say is really excited about that is i don't particularly love like american houses so I was like this is actually going to be interesting like from the real estate

point of view as well because I'm fascinated to see inside these really expensive English homes but they don't even try to make it about the houses in the trailer you see like the insides of two houses and then it's basically just showing these realtors then this girl that used to be made in Chelsea pops up and you're like oh my god so surely none of these people are estate agents I think it's going to be a good watch what have you been loving so what would you say if I said that that me espresso that's the only lyric I know I know Queen of my heart it's not new it's not surprising but I am obsessed with espresso to the point that actively my brain just keeps thinking when I have a moment of solace that that me espresso that just keeps like dipping back into it it's ruined and rotted my brain but I love it so much I love it

because also it does make sense but it doesn't like that's not a sentence is it I think it's like you know pot calling the kettle black that that me espresso do you know what I mean it's like, you know, pot calling the kettle black. That me espresso. Do you know what I mean? It's just... Okay. You know what it means? It means she's so hot, the guy that she's talking about is literally staying up all night. That me espresso, that's what it is. You know, that's amore. It's the same thing.

That's amore. When a big pizza pie hits your eye. That's me espresso yeah exactly i just found an article on i don't know if it's a very credible website them.us i asked a grammarian which also doesn't seem like a word to help me unpack that's that me espresso oh my god the nonsense line in sabrina carpenter's summertime bop is nonsense line okay. Okay. Poetry. Anyone heard of that? Yeah. So I didn't know this is another lyric.

I know I mountain dew it for you. Oh, but that's quite funny. I get that. And also she says, switch it up like Nintendo. She's obviously throwing in those euphemisms. She's hot like espresso. She'll keep them up all night.

Move around like a Nintendo controller. It's all in there. The lyrics are there. And also, I'm working late because I'm a singer my favorite line is because as if it's like we're all like oh yeah of course so relatable I obviously like work late because I'm a singer because also I'd never even thought about that as a thing like I wouldn't necessarily associate singers with working late I might associate sort of like shift workers or I don't know hospitality

but it may it obviously does make sense yeah she's putting in a night shift because she's a singer she's she's literally saying it all in the song one thing I will say somebody blew my mind this weekend a friend made me see that the reason why it's so catchy is it's basically the exact same song as Doja Cat's Say So it uses the exact same notes which is why it's such a banger it's basically the exact same song as doja cat say so it uses the exact same notes which is why it's such a banger it's just such a good kind of like type of song like that dreamy kind of poppy yeah poppy song can you sing me say so i can't think of it off the top of my head now well the worst thing is this song has like eroded say so from my brain i can't no actually i was talking to another friend of mine about do a lea's new album and she was saying how

you can layer almost like any of the lyrics over any of the other tracks yeah I saw I think somebody has actually done that on TikTok I think I saw it last week and as we mentioned in last week's episode the stands are not happy the comments were not fun So for our first topic, our Bermuda correspondent Beth McColl is going to kick us off. at the gala and the ongoing conflict in Gaza, especially considering how many people who were attending the Met Gala have not used their platforms to speak up publicly against the war, as well as other huge current social issues. Since we spoke, a new online campaign has started, which people have dubbed the Digiteen or Digital Guillotine, where people have been blocking celebrities en masse. It's a historical reference to how Marie Antoinette was convicted of high treason against the French Republic and executed by guillotine during the French Revolution in 1793. The Digital Guillotine

sees people blocking public figures to disrupt their influence on platforms and take away earnings from their ad revenue. I would love to know if you guys have seen this and what you think. So I have loads to say about this and I can't wait to dive in. So I have seen everyone talking about this. I do wonder how effective blocking is. I'm not sure that's going to play out but let's hear what Beth has to say so personally I feel a sort of pride a massive curiosity seeing this it's it's a lot of young people who are trying to get clever with their activism and their kind of strands of protest and this I guess would be a digital protest it's it's a way of going like straight to the core of it and trying to be seen and heard by these creators and celebrities that can and should be doing more and could be useful in this fraught and awful time. And I think it has massive potential because it's on the internet

to kind of catch fire. I have also seen critique of this, which I'm sure you guys will get into. But, you know, at the very least, it does show that people are angry and invested in changing this lived experience and this protective bubble around the elites. And the mood and the tide is shifting. People don't want this celebrity ruling class, this untouchable group of people. They want change and they want justice. And whatever else we have to say about this, I find that fascinating. So what do you both think? So I agree. I feel like it's a really good and interesting temperature check of culture and young people right now. And I feel like there is this really obvious and understandable distaste for celebrity. We kind of touched on it last week with The Met, as Beth said,

and just seeing celebrities either ignore it or, you know, celebrity on in the face of it just feels really gross. I honestly have some reservations on how I think impactful it is. I think I reread Gia Tolentino's book last week, and her first chapter talks about how, you know, online activism has been equated to real life activism. Commenting on politics online has almost been equated to actual action and protest. And I think this is a similar case where I think this is a great start but as we're seeing across the country this week actual protests across universities is where the real action lies in my opinion I think this is a micro step and I'm really proud of people for doing it but I don't think this is impactful activism in the same way

I even just think on a practical level i was a bit confused because i was like even if i don't know like hundreds of thousands of people block them it's not really going to have a material impact big enough in my mind because the end goal the idea is um that's being positive by these people that are sharing this list is like if we block them they'll lose revenue ads don't want to work with them and I hate to say it but they are giants people with like millions if not billions of followers are not going to feel the impact of what is sadly going to be quite a fringe group of people doing this like it's not going to be enough people I don't think kind of doing this and that's not to say that just because

something might not have as much impact something else it that isn't worth doing. And I do think it's good. I guess it's a graspable, attainable way for people to show solidarity. And as you said, Richard, to kind of prove their distaste and to try and call on celebrities to make change. But I wonder if, like what you said, if there is more effectiveness in realising

that if they haven't said anything yet, maybe they aren't going to say something. And it is on us to try and get into protests that are going to have more action. But that's also, again, easy to say for me just behind a microphone. And my last little thing that I wanted to ask you about, Ruchira, was like actually the composition of these lists, because I've read some of them. Some of the people being blocked are very tenuously linked. And it does feel like a lot of people are getting shots fired again I guess that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things but as a form of organizing it feels slightly messy I guess it's just it's just messy isn't it it's this it's a similar thread to what we always come down to

which is we've just become the judge and jury online which in the face of this isn't an issue because it's, you know, celebrities commenting or not commenting. But when you're kind of trying to do, you know, the big thread diagram with like arrows pointing in all directions and pictures going this way and the other, it's just, I don't know how you actually verify all of this without actually googling and doing some checks first. The thing that I think is good about in general is I don't actually think it's going to be the blocking or the list, but I think the fact that this has taken on, like this has made its way onto my feed numerous times,

means that people are going to be seeing the lay public, these young, generally like quite young people, calling out celebrities that they, in the past, have been huge fans of. And I think that in of itself will perhaps make people think twice I don't know if actually like the blocking thing the theory that they're circulating

is even if you don't follow them you know they're not going to see it but it is just going to be not enough I don't think unless literally everyone unfollowed everyone it also I guess to go right back to how Beth kind of started it does make you feel a bit proud that people are not giving up and people are trying to find new innovative ways to call for justice and and for everyone to kind of like address what is going on and so I guess even though I do feel slightly cynical about the effectiveness of it and whether or not some people are being a bit laissez-faire with like the people they're lumping in together that doesn't really matter because the essence of what's happening does seem like there's this sort of like miniature uprising online of people being like I don't care I want this to be resolved I think it's really inspiring seeing that you know

for everything everyone says about disaffected young people and young people not having a voice that's political or caring about politics because we're all understandably just fed up with everything it's nice to see it's nice to see mobilization it's nice to see feeling and vigor about causes that really matter and you know I think people will look back at this time historically and think how did we let this all happen and that isn't that's a horrid horrid feeling so it is really nice to see that things are being done protests are happening i think my main thing is i just urge people if they are doing the online stuff to kind of you know also consider the real

life action as well and just kind of keep the energy going and direct energy more so to protest and more so to real life boycotts or action and things like that and not just do it either or this is just kind of making me think of in terms of when things that feel very online make it into the reality and everyone making big calls for ollie alexander to pull out of the eurovision he then did perform i was kind of thinking well i don't think this is going to have you know because sometimes you never know that it's hard to temperature check like what's happening online and what's happening in real life and how many people are engaged and how many people feel the same way but actually when Olly Alexander didn't you know decide to pull out I think a

lot of people were quite disappointed but then there have been now a few shows and things coming up where lots of younger artists and newer performers are deciding to boycott them. And so actually in a weird way, it may be him not pulling out of Eurovision and that being such so well spoken about and such a big thing has actually caused like a chain reaction of other people to think that it's maybe better to kind of try and stand with your morals. I do worry sometimes about how insulated these famous people are from the truth of scenarios and how much their managements are kind of running around them and saying like, no, no, no, don't be silly. This is like a really fringe group on the internet saying this, you're not doing anything wrong.

I don't know. That was a mess to me as well. Yeah, it was a complete mess. Just you reminded me about how yeah impactful boycotts are and who knows if uh eurovision has led to the fact that i just saw today a hundred acts have quite great escape you know that music festival yes brighton it is really impactful and that is proof that you can stand by your morals and you don't have to go through with the commitment of attending an event if you believe that there are issues with it. So just to reiterate, yeah, we really

stand in solidarity with people protesting, with people showing their voice, with people speaking out, boycotting, just do what you can and yeah make your voices heard so this week the dating app bumble apologised after releasing a series of billboards promoting the app. One billboard in particular read, you know full well a vow of celibacy is not the answer. Many people have criticised the campaign, including Julia Fox, who wrote, 2.5 years of celibacy and never been better, to be honest. It's basically just caused a massive kerfuffle online. People are pissed off. Bumble has since apologized and said, our ads referencing celibacy were an attempt to lead into a community frustrated by modern dating.

And instead of bringing joy and humor, we unintentionally did the opposite. I've seen that people seem to have taken the apology quite well, which is a rarity for a brand to come out and quote unquote get an apology right it also comes after bumble have recently abandoned their founding principle which was their big selling point of women making the first move in heterosexual matches have you seen this and only and what do you think i have to say i was absolutely flabbergasted because it's obviously bumble is like pitched as this very forward-thinking female-led dating app and to literally be like come on women open your legs there's men out there that need to be served some pussy is how I read it

I just obviously not what they intended I did think the apology was good again I was quite shocked by the apology because I felt like it fully took accountability they kind of apologized and then said all the points that naysayers had pointed out they had then listed, which I think in terms of an apology goes quite well because it wasn't obfuscating or trying to deny. They basically were like, look, that's what you've said was the issue. We've realized that. So I think people perhaps accepted the apology because it did feel like they'd actually read

the feedback. What was your initial reaction to it? Maybe I had a very strong gut reaction. It just felt so out of left field for a dating app that's supposed to be creating equality within dating. When I first read it, I immediately took it the way that everyone took it. And I was like, yikes, that is not a good campaign.

That is a very, very bad message, especially in the current climate around modern dating. I also feel like having just had a bit of time to sit with it it's just I think it's just a really obvious thing of a company making it really clear that it's a company that's after either your money or your data and ultimately the message is come back to us we're losing a lot of you we need you back and they they went about it in such a brazen way I think they were trying to do it really cheekily, but the two readings of it, the more serious one,

is just really fucking brazen of just begging people to come back for monetary value. And it's quite grim, isn't it? Yeah, and I also think they have their Bumble friendship section of the app, which I've never used, but one of my really good friends made a best friend through using Bumble friends. Really? Yeah, and she moved to a different area of London didn't know anyone so just downloaded it and then literally has been friends like the girl like

maybe like two girls that she met on there so I feel like a more interesting angle would be like I hear you guys aren't going on dates but why not make some mates sorry that would have been someone should have paid me loads of money for that but anyway no Anoni I'm not I'm not even kidding that's actually such a good camp no I'm not even joking that was really good it would have been wouldn't it because then you'd be like oh yeah actually that's such a good point because it's making me think of a few years ago maybe five-ish years ago tinder did a campaign which i remember the time thinking was so clever where they basically just accepted that people use tinder to hook up rather than to get into relationships and instead of pitching it as like an app for

falling in love they were just embracing it they were like hey maybe you'll meet the love of your life maybe you'll meet your date for this evening or whatever like they kind of really lent into the fact that people were using it for having no strings attached sex and I think at that time we were really leaning into um hoes never getting cold women sleeping around it was like a big it was all about promiscuity and they led into that and that made sense whereas bumble seems to have like not clocked on to actually what this is is a huge kind of a different wave happening where women are actually deciding that maybe it's too dangerous too scary the world's not in the right place at the minute to be having that sort of like freedom with your sexuality it just like i understand that they've picked up on the

virality of celibacy but it's just completely wrong I'm interested I'd be so interested to know who's in that room and how it how it got so wrong you can just see that they identified a trend as you said and just wanted to make fun of the situation that's going on but it's just hit the complete wrong nerve it's just like flipped a switch and everyone who probably just felt apathetic towards bumble are now like angry and i the thing is i can see why as well because when i saw it i was like dating apps are a massive reason for why people have really kind of just turned off with modern dating at the moment when i speak to my friends who have gone down the celibacy route the main

reason is just because it is so demoralizing going on the apps being treated like content being treated like you know you're one of a million options to various people who are absorbing a facet of who you are and treating you as disposable to be honest so I think dating apps you know commenting on the impact that they've had making fun of that response and you know the impact of what they've done to modern dating it just feels quite shit I'm not like everyone should be celibate but if I ever meet someone who's celibate I'm always one fascinated and also think god that's quite an incredible sense of control because we do are taught in this day and age to get so much of our understanding of ourselves through desire and being wanted and needed sexually

so when people choose abstinence from anything whether it's like sex or alcohol whatever I'm always like wow that's so impressive because I do think it can be like transcendental for lots of people so it just seems such a weird thing to kind of get people to not do because I don't think anyone ever takes celibacy or abstinence lightly. It's very much often either in response to a traumatic event or lots of self-introspection. It is a difficult thing to do, I think. I know it sounds like it isn't, but it kind of is to make that decision and that commitment. So the one other thing I'd say, if anyone hasn't seen them, one of them reads, thou shall not give up on dating and become a nun. Another one reads, you know full well a vow of celibacy is not the answer. And the images used are of people that look like they are women or like identify as women.

So these ads are sort of being funneled towards women, which in a society where we're seeing more and more content about trad wives, and recently there was an NFL player that went into university and kind of told women that actually their greatest role in life will be to become a homemaker. angle for what used to be widely viewed as a feminist app to be sort of pitching something that reads kind of like quite victim blaming towards women in a world that is has always been but maybe it's sliding slightly back more towards seeing women as a vehicle for sex pleasure and pregnancy only there could have been some sort of angle where it was like dating doesn't have to be about sex let's take things slow or something you know like encouraging people to still date despite having taken a vow of celibacy for however long what feels so icky I think about it is it saying like

you're gonna have to have sex if you want to date which is like almost surely pushing more people away even more I'm just more convinced as you talk that you need to go into PR and you need to go into advertising. I'm just more convinced that you probably know more about this than they do. Well Bumble if you're listening you know I charge £20,000 a minute. Cheap for the words of wisdom you've come out with to be honest. there were so many stories this week that we really wanted to talk about on the podcast but our producer tells us off if we talk for too long so i thought instead we could do a little quick fire round and i'm gonna give you some stories with tira and then i want to hear your hot takes how does that sound i'm scared don't be I'm going to walk you through this like a portal. The first

story is the New York to Dublin portal. It's a video portal, aka an interactive sculpture, which essentially acts as a giant FaceTime call. And it's on one street in New York and one street in Dublin. And it starts off really well. Everyone's being really cute, holding up their dogs. And by the end, people were flashing tit and um well actually being quite disgraceful and what's your hot take on that a I didn't really understand what the point of this was b it's proof that we can't have nice things and c it was very triggering for my amigal memories from when I was 14 and spoke to a man who was naked you're so right it's what's the other one chat um chat roulette but we were the ones flashing what I think is so funny about it

is it's like something you would think from the future so like in a film from maybe like 1995 this would have felt really futuristic but because you literally just put an iphone in the new york in new york plugged in on charge on facetime someone in dublin it seems a bit like unnecessary any other thoughts no next let's go okay next you're gonna love this it's about your babe sabrina but um it's also about depop drama so did you see sabrina's 25th birthday dress the gorgeous like andy Andy Anderson inspired yellow mini love and she even had like the yellow diamond on anyway turns out she bought this off Depop of a Depop seller so she's just like us but if you go on this Depop seller's Instagram page

they're obviously quite young and they'll be like amazing vintage shorts look like this blah blah and it's a pair of like 2015 forever 21 sequin shorts and she's selling them for like 200 how does that make you feel i feel bad if sabrina carpenter was ripped off i feel bad that she's resorted to using depop when she she should be getting archival fashion and also i i'm scared of young people why are they why are they all scammers I'm also impressed it's it's impressive that they're scamming us all I bow down to them I think they honestly see a pair of um FNF trousers which is is it Florence and Fred the Sainsbury's Sainsbury's brand I don't know what that stands for it's Tesco though isn't it and they don't know what that is and it'll be like

I don't know a pair of like capri pants and they they're like, oh my God, archival FNF $600. I think they just, I think because they're in their 20s, it feels like they shouldn't be that much younger than us. But the stuff to them is vintage, whereas that's just our childhood. Either way, I'm a big fan of secondhand fashion. So big up Sabrina. So Sabrina has been on Depop. She's just like us.

How does that make you feel when celebrities do in verticals normal things like us I feel like do you remember was it Balenciaga that came out with an Ikea bag I feel like when I see celebrities wearing normal things or holding normal things it feels like it's it feels like it's a statement. It doesn't feel like, oh, they're like us. It feels like the Balenciaga Ikea bag. It's not the same Sainsbury's I know. It's something different. What do you think? Well, did you see there was a tweet today

that Mark Zuckerberg's wife for his 40th birthday made him almost like a mini village for the places he's lived before. So like it looked like little mini houses. So there's one picture of him sat in this room that's obviously meant to be like his uni dorm with like nothing in it and then people were like well marie antoinette built a miniature village in the back of um the palace de versailles so she could pretend to be a peasant whenever she felt like it oh my god that's giving that so sometimes I do think I'm like oh they're just experimenting with being poor but then when you see like Zendaya and Tom in Waitrose did you see those pics I didn't

see those pics they must have been staying in London with like Tom's family and they were just in Waitrose and just like casually and I really that felt real to me that's crazy imagine if you saw Zendaya by like the deli aisle or something. What the fuck? Do you think you would even believe? Because I think that's something that happens with like contacts with celebrities and stuff. If you see them in too normal of a scenario, the dream, the best way to be a celebrity, I reckon, is if you've got kids and your kids go to the same school as theirs because they kind of have to hang out with you. You've got mutual grounds to talk to them and they could never say you're being a weirdo. Yeah. You're like soft launching never say you're being a weirdo yeah you're like

soft launching into their life without being a creep you could even be like in a whatsapp chat with them or if your friend was dating a friend of theirs and then they were at a party and then you said something really funny and then they became your best friend that's like my dream yeah well this is like going back to the fantasy of the like the idea of you thing. This is like these scenarios I come up with. I'm like, how would it be realistic that Rihanna would be my best friend? And now I know it'd be through being her and Sainsbury's. The final story in this round is about chat GPT.

I actually hate engaging with this because it's come up on my timeline so much and I just find it too dystopian and distressing. But chat GPT can flirt now. A new version of chat GPT has been released and this version has been programmed to sound chatty and can sometimes be flirtatious in its responses. The BBC reported that when paid a compliment,

it responds, stop it, you're making me blush. Sure. I know. Have you seen any of the videos of it on Twitter? They keep coming up on my feed. No, I haven't seen the videos. I saw the news story and I was like, great, I'm going to file that in the bin of my brain. I'm not bothered. I don't know what's up with my feed. No I haven't seen the videos I saw the news story and I was like great I'm gonna file that in the bin of my brain I'm I'm not bothered. I don't know

what's wrong with my algorithm so far today I have seen chat GPT talking to a man but it's so flirty it makes you feel ill. What does it say what kind of stuff? She's like oh my god really is that what you're wearing I think you're gonna do great it's like so sensual it's revolting because you know the way that the algorithm isn't aggregated to create an echo chamber anymore which we used to think was a bad thing and now I really miss because I get basically got these really like right wing things on my page but not immediately is it obvious because I don't know or recognize the name of the account so there's this one like yeah this just shows like how the most clever people are

going to be clever that engage with this and it's like oh what's this and it was basically just a dad using chat gbt to help his kid with its homework oh and just like just everyone's using this new chat gbt and it's like big chat gbt is hatched by twitter i can't bear it oh god what what do you think where do you stand on ai would you ever use chat gbt for anything so i have used it now and again for just like outsourcing really boring tasks so if I just need something reworded I'll do it but then reword it again because it just sounds so AI it just there's no way to not make the stuff that it writes out for you sound human unless you just have another go at it also the flirty thing really reminds me of her did you ever watch the Spike Jonones film i love that film no i don't think i

have so joaquin phoenix is a guy who works at a greeting cards company and he falls in love with a robot who is played by scarlett johansson and the robot is just like a voice and obviously imagining her voice just like flirting with you for days on end of course he falls in love and it's about him navigating a relationship with this robot and it just yeah sounds kind of the vibe of this and like you know all the fear-mongering stuff of men are gonna fall in love with sex robots and AI over women because they don't actually want to talk to real women vibes but I mean this is kind of what I was trying to say earlier which is like on the one hand we're creating a world which is so inhospitable for love and romance because we have men being kind of riled up by people like Andrew Tate and then women actually taking back

control of their sexuality by becoming celibate and so like then I'm like well of course all of these men are going to fall in love with chat gbt if you're making a flirt with them like that like that is going to be the end and then we're just going to have to figure out a world without men are you victim blaming chat gbt and only that's what i'm getting from this one it makes me depressed because i keep reading things about teachers where they'll be marking paper and be like this is so good and then at the end the child won't have removed a bit where the prompt says like is this everything and then so that's really depressing so you have people using chat gpt and trying to pass it off as their own but then you also have people who are just maybe quite wordy or like a bit of floral language like paul mariah carey's

13 year old son who this week wrote her really nice birthday message on instagram and everyone accused him of having used chat gpt he had to then do a response thing like he basically was like of course i can write a mariah carey song okay clap back anyone shows like any form of sort of like literary prowess who's under the age of 18 and immediately gets accused of using chat gbt so ai worries me i am enjoying people making loads of um faked ai photos of elon musk and mark zuckerberg like getting with each other in the hopes if they if they like flood the Twitter timeline, the X timeline with these photos, eventually Elon will ban them.

You know what? I wasn't convinced there was a good use for AI, but I've heard it. I finally, I finally heard it. Snog, marry, avoid. The New York Dublin portal, Depop drama and chat GPT. Snog, portal, marry Depop drama,

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