Everything Is Content - David Hockney, Midas Fury & Are There Really Aliens?
Episode Date: June 19, 2026Hello EICelestial beings! This week on the podcast - the world’s first trillionaire, unique celebrity baby names and Ruchira's terrifying folklore tidbit. Plus EIC headquarters went to a party, and ...some members might still be drunk (and it may just be that young lady's 33rd birthday the day this episode is released, everyone go and wish Beth(any) McColl a happy 33rd).Firstly, it's been a big week! From North West's recent festival performance, to the Knick's winning the NBA and Elon Musk becoming the world's first trillionaire. We take you through the standout headlines from the world of pop culture and beyond!Next up, Tommy Fury and Molly Mae finally announced the name of their newborn son this weekend. The baby boy, who was born earlier this month is called… Midas. The couple revealed the name via Tommy’s boxing shorts, which he wore to a match on Saturday. We get into the names of it all!We hope you enjoy listening, please do leave a rating, review, or Spotify comment and we will forever be grateful. O,R,B.Oenone's been loving: David Hockney (general), ThirstRuchira's been loving: Disclosure DayBeth's been loving: Everything by Patrick Radden-Keefe, Maternal Instincts, Should I Marry A MurdererSocial media to be banned for under-16s in landmark government move to give kids their childhood backTyra Banks Sues Netflix for Defamation, Alleges ‘Surgical Manipulation’ of Her ‘Reality Check: Inside America’s Next Top Model’ InterviewLooksmaxxing Influencer Clavicular Faces Criticism Over New Nose: ‘Too Thin for His Face’Why F1 Fans Are So Upset With Kim Kardashian Following Martin Brundle Snub‘The genie is out of the bottle’: parents react to UK under-16s social media banMarried at First Sight Australia stars not told partners had drug and violence convictions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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never miss an episode. I'm worried I might still be a little bit pissed from last night because I'm in
a really good mood and I thought early wake up this surely can't be natural. It's a vodka time.
Yeah, Ritira made a good escape and being back, we didn't leave for some time. Yeah.
We were until they made us leave, actually.
Yeah, we literally.
Yeah.
We were at the polyester book launch for Aoni Gambles, new book, the polyester book of bad taste,
which I think is now out because otherwise what were they doing the launch for?
We just had the book a few, we've had it a few weeks now, which is excellent.
The book of essays about everything to do with taste.
There's some absolute corkers in there.
And the party was great fun.
But, oh, good God, I can have a vodka ton, it turns out.
The drinks were flowing for good or bad reasons.
And the conversation, God knows what I said.
All of us got there and it was such a sick party.
But we were like, oh, if it was a bit quieter and sort of they put the lights on.
Because we all got really overwhelmed.
This is how you know you're in your 30s.
I was like, I can't really hear you guys and I can't really see.
So we went outside and we sat in the corner and we talked to people very social.
We did.
We were very firmly 30 and above.
Yeah.
I feel so weird without my microphone like I shouldn't be talking.
Like I can't exist that because I don't have it.
I might just have to hold it.
Hold something.
Have a little hairbrush.
Yeah, just do it for like emotional support.
Yeah.
I am editing this.
If it sounds really bad, it is on me.
But my microphone just had a breakdown before we start recording.
So I'm recording into my Mac.
Let's just pray.
Do I sound normal to you guys?
You actually sound fine.
But as we've discussed, I'm pissed.
So God knows.
You'd be talking Spanish.
That's not really here.
I did want to say, actually,
before we get into what we've been loving and any other conversation we're going to have today,
if you're listening to this on Friday the 19th, it is my 33rd birthday today.
And obviously I'm looking around listeners.
I'm not seeing a card, not seeing a balloon, not seeing a cake.
It seems like you have forgotten.
But I will forgive you if you leave us.
10 pounds.
Yes.
Actually, please do PayPal me some cold, horrid cash.
I will accept also a lovely review or a comment because I do quite.
like when people comment and we get to chat to them in lieu of a present for my 33rd, I was about
say 33rd day, no, but it sometimes feels like that. My 30rd year, that's all I'm going to ask
for. So thanks very much. And depending on what time you're listening to this, unfortunately
Ritirutu couldn't come, but me and Beth will be on our way or at or post Harry Stiles.
E.G. The Shaniard Twelftham concert. The Shaniardtale. We're going to be there. We're going to be
watching Harry Stiles running around his little scale of tricks. And I'm going to go.
personally can't wait oh we have to have a live update next week on what you thought about it all and
just all of your feedback i actually can't wait for that bit even though i am seething with jealousy
and just resentment at my own choices if any e i see i see i i i see i i'm invited
she just because of come i was invited i was invited no yeah no you both decided to not
include me no i'm joking important question what richard have you been loving this week so i watched
disclosure day over the weekend in a pack cinema. Cinema is back, guys. Cinema is so back.
The blockbusters are out and people are turning up. It was so much fun. It's the new
Stephen Spielberg film. I don't really want to say too much about it because I saw a spoiler about
what the film's premise was and I kind of wish I'd gone in not knowing a single thing.
But I will say it is classic Steven Spielberg feels like all of his famous films like E.T.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Jurassic Park,
all of those kind of massive films under his title and his history,
kind of in a modern day age, it has that same feel.
It's really cute and sweet,
and it's like a little bit corny,
but it's the kind of film where you watch it and you're like,
oh, I just want to, I want to lean into it.
I want to have the Americanisms.
I want to have the Hollywood ending.
I just am going to relinquish control and just enjoy this film.
Have you guys heard of it?
No, so I actually, you know, you were like,
I wish I didn't know what it was about. I actually don't know what it's about.
So can I have...
Good.
No, but can you give me a rough?
Well, yeah, because I'm totally blind.
The trailer, and I know only aliens is what I'm machine making.
Okay, so you know aliens.
Okay, good.
So yes, it is a film about aliens.
It's about life, not on earth, and a government cover up.
And basically, it really reveals Stephen Spielberg's personal feelings.
He's a massive obsessive with aliens.
and, you know, extraterrestrial life, all those kind of things.
And he said in quite a few trailers and interviews that he's now gone from thinking,
I wish I knew if there was life outside of this earth to being like,
I wish we could have confirmation of what we already know that there is probably life outside
of this earth.
And it's kind of expanding on that premise of do humans have a right to know about these
things or does the government have a right to, quote, quote,
protect us or shield us from that information?
Not to go all segue, like the ghost stories thing, but would you want to know about the aliens and would you want to meet one? Or would you rather, do you think it's not your business?
I find it so scary and I can't even explain why. But they really tap into this fear I have. And it's not that I think that they will hurt us. I think it's this feeling of everything you know about life is wrong. The way you live your life is wrong because there's just so much more going on. And it kind of makes every thing.
single thing we worry about our daily life paling to comparison. And that feeling just, I don't know,
it makes me feel so small and tiny and scared. I will say, though, everyone says the straight
male obsession is Roman empires. I think it's aliens. My boyfriend is obsessed with aliens. He wants
us to watch this Sky documentary about extraterrestrial life that apparently has five stars, so I'll be
doing that this weekend. Is he like a truce? He, no, I don't know if it's a true. He, no, I don't know if it's a
truth that he just is like there's obviously aliens is that a truth or is
because I think there's obviously not aliens I wish there was but I just think there's
not sorry if I'm about to spread misinformation but was that now a clip of Barack Obama being like
there's obviously aliens he said something weird but he rolled it back I saw that he rolled
it back but it was weird it was very weird it was clipped I think it was clipped really
cleverly but basically I think the thesis is that obviously are aliens because they just
can't not be but it's like I thought it was the opposite I'm Googling now
Is there aliens?
But then aliens, when we think of like the little alien, like space invaders, aliens, are probably not the aliens.
I agree with what you said, Ritra about it's so wrong footing and disconcerting because it's like, you know, when someone's like you could never imagine another colour, it's like suddenly being told that there actually is another colour.
And then you're like, but on the flip side, I love the thing that you said you don't like, which I like feeling small and I like feeling really insignificant.
And I like feeling that actually my life.
Because sometimes size feels too big, too overwhelming and everything means too much.
I quite like thinking doesn't actually mean anything. Who cares?
So I do you want to know what Google says, which is there's a massive chance.
There's a very high chance. And most microbiologists, astrobiologists agree there is some microbial life almost definitely out there.
But complex, intelligent, technologically advanced civilizations is very, very unlikely because of the size of the universe and evolution.
And it's a numbers game, basically. But that said, I mean, we're here.
We're bloody alien.
Have you watched? My favorite alien film is arrival. Is it a call?
Orival.
Arrivals, yes.
Ever arrivals.
Great.
But that's such a good example of, I think, what aliens are, which is like they're kind of,
they are a thing and they're not a thing.
I love that film because that really fucks with your brain.
But that's what I imagine it is.
It's like they're a thing that is so outside of our conception of what a thing is.
Intelligence.
They could be one just watching me through my window right now and I just can't see.
Like energy or something.
Yeah.
Just some kind of force or, yeah.
Can I freak you out if you don't already know this?
Do you know about the South African school story from the 1990s?
No.
Okay, so my partner told me about this and I couldn't sleep.
So I'm really sorry to share this on with you.
Nap-wra.
You both need to sleep, to be fair.
Oh, no.
Wait.
Oh, no.
Okay, so both of you mute your headphones and I'm just going to share this story on.
But in 1994, over 60 children at the school called the Ariel School in Zimbabwe, not South Africa,
sorry, claimed that they saw a glowing disc landing near their playground and that they
interacted with some beings. All 60 children identified the same shape of person they saw. They said
they saw like a three-foot person with long black hair and they saw big eyes, big enormous black
eyes and they all drew the same thing. And it was so freaky if you see these drawings.
It made my skin like go cold. All 60 children said the exact same thing when they were isolated
away from each other and drew the exact same pictures. I love that, but isn't it a bit like the sailors
that saw seals and thought they saw mermaids,
although I do want to believe that mermaids are also real.
So it could have just been like a little,
what are they called like a Tasmanian devil?
Are they real?
Long black hair though.
Like it kind of sounded like Michael Jackson.
Like long black hair, sunglasses.
So I'm just looking,
we might have to put this on the Instagram as well.
The pictures,
these are really,
they're not scary the ones I'm looking at.
It is basically,
it looks like an alien in a suit.
It looks like an alien cartoon.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's exactly that.
And these are the things that have kept you up.
Maybe I need to be told this story at night, but I'm looking at this picture and I just, I think they've had a conspiracy theory.
Sorry, the one I've clicked on is literally just like the, what we think an alien looks like.
Yes.
Maybe this reveals how easily swayed and freaked out I am compared to the average mind.
I reckon all the kids the day before were like, let's say we've seen an alien and we'll get half a day off school.
Let's ruin.
They made like global news and they freaked out.
out.
That joy, I agree with Bath.
If the drawing was a bit more haunting and like something I'd not seen,
but the drawing is literally like the exact alien,
like the space invasion of alien.
Just go and Google this.
Just Google, yeah, Zimbabwe alien drawing.
But maybe we should believe children.
Like maybe I'm being mean.
Yeah, believe children.
Okay, sorry, I feel like I've really weaponized.
I completely forgot what we were talking about.
Disclosure Day, disclosure day.
Go see it.
It's really fun, big blockbuster.
I think it's going to be a good summer hit. Okay, what have you been loving, Anoni?
Okay, so the first thing I've been loving is I have been listening to John Robbins' memoir,
first, 12 drinks that changed my life, which is all about his journey to sobriety and the kind of
he tells the story through 12 drinks. And it's a really interesting take on alcoholism, because
it's kind of like, he says at the beginning, I'm telling you my life as I lived it when I was
drinking. So memory is already like quite faulty, but these are my memories as like someone that
drinking at the time. And he kind of posits this interesting idea that he thinks he was an alcoholic
literally from the age of three. So he goes back to the first time that he ever tried like a sip
of alcohol. And he was like, I think there's something in my brain. He talks about all the different
ways that people can become alcoholic. Sometimes it can be like you've got a genetic predisposition.
Sometimes it's, you know, environment, whatever. And he really genuinely believes that from the
moment he first tasted alcohol as like a toddler, he was an alcoholic and that was it. And he talks about
how he got hooked. And it's such an interesting framing, I guess.
because I've never heard it, anyone speak about it like that.
And he's really candid and talks about, like, you know, terrible things you do when you're drunk
and, you know, the ways that it kind of tore apart his relationships.
And he says, one of the worst things that's come up, my sobriety is everyone kind of celebrating me
and being like, you've done so well.
And all the people that I kind of hurt in the wake are kind of not only had to deal with me
being drunk and destructive, they're also having to then deal with me getting praised for becoming sober.
So it's really interesting.
And also, with anything to do with alcohol, it does make you go, oh,
God, we probably shouldn't be drinking. But yeah, we'd really recommend it. As you know,
I love John Robbins. I've heard this book as excellent. I've seen a few people that I know,
personally, who are on their own sober journeys, just say, this is it. This is a really good
accounting. And obviously, we are such big fans of his on the podcast. But I do, I just don't
think I know, I have many books, especially on my shelves, about alcohol addiction. I don't know
whether that is something that's just passed me by, whereas I've got a lot of books. I'm really
fascinated by addiction in general, especially addiction to kind of mind-altering substances or
stepping out of the world in that way. Whereas with alcohol addiction, I just think I really am
not very well-versed, or like I probably internalise a lot of the stuff which is really
unhelpful about alcohol addiction versus actually just listening to someone who has gone through
it. So all of that to say, I think I might actually pick this book up. It's also so interesting what
you said about him identifying it so early in his life. I feel like I have heard other people say that
for just this idea that having a sip of a drink, it kind of felt like that was their story
written out in regards to alcohol for the rest of their life. I have definitely heard that
before. I can't remember. I think it was a celebrity memoir or something, but so fascinating.
I even think just like the mechanics of addiction, I really want to know more about it.
It's kind of a scary, but it's also quite fascinating and important topic.
Yeah. And he was also saying with alcohol, there are some people that do metabol, you just like,
metabolite, your body actually does interact with it chemically differently, so you cannot just
like have a drink, which is really interesting. And another thing he talks about, and he's really
sort of like, that's quite angry about it in the book, is he had a really, like quite a short spell
of having a gambling addiction. And he talks about why he thinks gambling is just the most inhumane
industry. It's really interesting. God, same. Absolutely. And like I have no predisposition to that.
I really have no interest in it. It doesn't. And I think I'm, I'm similarly, I'm really fascinated by
addiction. I think because I have always had, you know, I had an addiction to,
cigarettes and then I can so easily stop or something that fires in my brain. There are certain things
that I just don't, my body seems to metabolize just differently and it's so ill understood.
I mean, I just mean like the wider public, I know that there's a lot of studies on it,
but like the way women especially, we talked about this actually in our Calci episode,
the way that women with gambling, they, it's, it's for emotional reasons. It's often emotionally driven.
It's often in secret. The way the men gamble, it's often like for the thrill. It's so fascinating.
And I think because we approach it with so much shame from internal and external sources,
we just are no closer, I think, as a society being properly fair to people with addictions.
We go, it's a choice.
And the minute you think of it along those lines, you're like, you've lost the debate, you've lost your humanity.
So there's so much there.
Sorry, this is a kind of random side note, but I listened to an Ezra Klein episode.
And obviously I don't agree with a lot of opinions he has, but sometimes he has a very good guest on.
But he did an episode on GLP-1s, and he had.
an expert in how bodies break down food and it was very scientific and it was a really good way
into it and this expert spoke about how a lot of people don't have impulse problems when it
comes to sugar or foods that are fast foods for example is that your body responds differently so
I always think about the fact that I can take it or leave it when it comes to like sweets
and things like that when I go to the cinema.
But then my partner just like, if we have a bag of sweets in front of us,
it's gone before the movie starts.
And I've always wondered about that.
And it's not impulse.
There are definitely so many different things that we don't know about in our bodies
that make us so different to how we respond to these stimuli.
And sugar is something that people have spoken about extensively with addiction
and the huge impact it has on our bodies.
And so much of it is like emotional, especially with food,
because you have to eat food.
It's not like you could just be with alcohol, like you can get sober.
You can't really get sober from food.
So that temptation to eat is always there.
Sorry, I'm going to do a really, maybe inappropriate segue,
but to talk about quite a funny side of addiction.
Is that allowed?
My other thing, then my other thing I've been loving, which is actually not loving.
It's deeply sad.
But David Hockley died last week, and I love his art.
And actually not that long ago, there's an exhibition.
I think it's on until August at the serpentime, which is free.
And it displays loads of his more recent kind of iPad work, which is incredible.
as well as some of his original paintings.
And I've always loved him.
And I just felt a deep sadness.
I started watching all these videos
and I'm sure you guys saw the really funny BBC interview
with his granddaughter and they're like,
what would your grandfather say?
And she's like, you know, just paint
and just fuck everyone.
And then she's like,
because obviously not allowed to swear,
that's really funny.
Then I did, because you know with X,
we've spoken about this now,
you like one thing.
I did the most beautiful thing.
I had a day where I liked one Hockney painting
and then my whole X feed
was just Hockney Painted and beautiful.
And then the thing came up in my feed.
from at Rob Lowney and he goes,
Very sad news that David Hockney's died.
A year ago, I asked him to write an article about smoking bans
and he provided one of the most charming answers I've ever received.
So this is David Hockney, 1st of June, 2025.
I'm busy painting, but I would like to say
there are far too many bossy people around for me.
All I can say is that when I was old enough, eight years old,
to go on the Bradford buses alone,
I ran up the stairs right to the front so I could see more
and the air was blue then, no windows open,
and you just stubbed your cigarette on an attachment on the seat
in front of you and they went on the floor.
This means I've been smoking for 80 years and I'm still busy painting.
Yours, David Hockney.
Oh, legend.
So funny.
What a great man.
So, yeah.
My very close friend, Bingo, who we both know, Mr. Bingo, who's an artist who sells
like these brilliant little coasters that say, tired of wellness or Bought a tired of wellness
with like a cigarette, ashtray.
And David Hockney bought, he loved them, he bought like 10 packs.
And then they ended up in contact.
And I think, and then David Hockney had messaged him and Bingo said, do I have permission to
share this on social media because it's brilliant.
And David Hockney said yes.
And what he wrote is, I too, I'm bored with wellness.
The concept seems ridiculous and too bossy for me.
I'm still smoking and enjoying it enormously.
I have never been to a gym in my life.
I walk a bit slower and not so far, but I am still working away every day.
And then ended it with love life.
And I just think, I'm a bloody chap.
I mean, I was having a few skinny siggy's last night.
I won't lie to listeners.
Right.
I think they were for Hopney.
They were for our friend, Dave.
There are so many funny because then I was looking up quotes
and there's like a thousand quotes from him
and they're all about smoking.
He just loves, he fucking loves it.
But also if you want to feel joy and happiness,
genuinely just stare at his painting and read his ethos
and look at him like his story, his life.
It's like, I hate this happens when someone dies
as you start to really engage with them more.
It's happened to me of so many critical figures.
But I genuinely can't explain his art moves for me
that his like use of colour is, it's just unbelievable.
So yeah, if you, I'm looking out of the greyest sky right now.
So yeah, if you want to get away from that,
Go look at some hockney.
Oh, that's so nice.
What have you been loving, Beth?
I actually watched two true crime documentaries this weekend.
It was very unlike me.
And for that, I blame Patrick Radden-Keefe,
because since reading London Falling,
I've re-read, say nothing.
I've read Empire of Pain and I've just started Snakehead.
So my interest in narrative nonfiction has gone through the roof.
And so I've been inhaling documentaries.
And this weekend, two documentaries.
The first one, I'm not going to say it's not what I was loving.
I'm not, I just wasn't loving it, but not because it wasn't very good, but because it was very gruesome.
I put it on thinking it would have more of an intersection with my interest in like maternal mental health and stuff.
And it didn't really.
It's called maternal instinct.
Have either of you watched it slash just, watched it slash heard of it?
No.
Trig warning for probably the next 30 seconds.
I'm about to mention something, which is very, it's violent.
It's very upsetting.
Perhaps if you're pregnant, skip ahead very shortly.
So it's, I mean, it's very gruesome.
It's really high on the Netflix chart.
So I'm sure you'll come across there.
A lot of people are talking about it.
It's basically a woman is pulled over.
She's screaming.
She's saying, like, I've had my baby, and my baby's not breathing.
And so ambulance comes, they go to the hospital.
And then you see a doctor saying, this woman has not recently had a baby.
And it's about fetal abduction, which is an incredibly rare crime.
It's a crime done by women.
It's so upsetting.
But it is also, it's interesting.
So a lot of people are watching this and discussing it.
but I just think it was not quite my interest or my level
because I'm not a true crime-oficionado.
I just went, oh, this is out of my realm.
It just left me very sad.
So I'm not going to recommend that one.
The one that I did watch and find really interesting,
which I hope one of you have seen,
is should I marry a murderer?
Yes.
Did you watch it?
I watched this.
I've heard of it, but I've not watched it.
So it's about this Scottish woman who meets a man,
she falls head over heels in love, gets engaged to him.
quite quickly, but she's so happy, planning their wedding. And then he tells her that a few years
ago, he had run over a cyclist late at night, out in the Scottish Highlands, I think it is,
with his brother buried the man's body, and they hadn't been caught. I think it was three years
prior. And so she suddenly has a life turned upside down. She has to, kind of, the documentary
follows what follows that, you know, whether they stay together, how she deals with it, if she goes
to the police, how she's dealing with it now. And just this might. And just this much,
moral dilemma of the person I loved and the person I feel so attached to has told me they've done
this thing. I believe them to be, you know, somehow a good person still. But obviously, I don't
want to get away with this. I mean, she's a criminal pathologist, I believe. So she works in,
there's so many ties. It's fascinating. It was a lot of it was over the COVID, I think. Yeah. And so I think
so, so good. I mean, I wonder, I know what your take on it was. But I just thought it's so
interesting about, you know, it's a woman who, a lot of people are saying, cause she's such an
idiot because, spoiler, like, she doesn't immediately leave him. So people are saying, like,
what a fool. But actually, I think a lot of us overestimate our capacity and ability to leave
or immediately disconnect from someone that we love. Like, you know, imagine the person you love
most in the world telling you something like that now. I don't think you'd go, wow,
police station immediately. I think you would have a bit more of a prolonged reaction. But,
yeah, what was your taking in it? Well, the thing that she's a forensic pathologist just adds
like this other layer because then she starts thinking like, like you said, Richard, what are
the chants? Like, did he seek me out because he thought that I would like understand? So they
had this weird thing where he's a hunter, so he kills lots of animals. And she isn't kind of
like creeped out by this because she's a friend of pathologist and deals with lots of dead bodies.
And so that's kind of something that they like bond over and he's around death. They kind of set
up to be like this kind of like a lot of death around them. But she'd had like a bad relationship
before. This was somewhat of a rebound. It was like head over heels kind of love bombing.
But what's really tricky about the documentary and actually did send me to the depths of Reddit
is she's quite clearly going through like a mental health traumatic response to,
what he's told her. And they end up spending a lot of time, even at the point where she's kind of,
she does go to the police behind his back. She then carries on hanging out with him and his brother.
She takes drugs with them. They're like partying together. She comes across as like quite
unwell. And actually a lot of viewers' response to her is they don't like her. They think she's
a lie. She thinks she's an idiot. And it's such a classic thing. This is such a complex situation
like you said, Beth, where I don't know how many people would be able to be rational, logical.
And also, I don't know if you're going to watch it. So I won't go too.
too deep, but it's maybe not what he said has happened is maybe not as clear cut as that.
You know, he presents it as this very innocent hit and run, didn't mean to do it.
And then, you know, we got away with it.
I can't believe I didn't hear about it at the time.
But it is, it was really good.
And she also, what's quite interesting is she's fronting it.
So she's there.
She's talking to you.
And she's filmed so much of it.
So she's constantly taking videos on her phone.
She's like recording them.
So it's really, it's quite.
she as an observer can seem like quite an odd woman
because she was sort of filming things,
not to go anywhere just on her phone,
like her talking and things.
It's really good,
but a lot of it is also about the duty of care of the police
and like whether or not she was supported enough.
Can I also say, this is probably inappropriate as well,
but when you said it was an innocent hit and run,
I just went, oh God, we're...
Sorry, that is so true.
I know.
But you meant a kind of...
No, but I mean, obviously, like...
Well, no, you could...
You could do what's called manslaughter.
You could like, you could accidentally.
mentally kill someone.
Yes.
Obviously, you're not innocent.
Innocently.
Yeah.
Do you want to just like say the line cleanly and then you can edit it back in so you
do you have to do the post?
Or do you want to do the post?
I think it's fine.
I'll just leave it in.
Also what I have been loving this week is that TikTok trend, probably I'm about
four weeks late to this, but where you deliver the same line for different ways and the line
is you shaved your bush and I really wanted to try that with you both today.
Have you seen it?
I'm assuming you have.
Yes.
I haven't.
Can you do it?
You're going to be so good at it.
So it's supportive, disappointed, sarcastic and flirty.
So you say you shaved your bush in those various different ways.
And I think, Ritura, you are going to be really, really fab at this.
But I can kick us off.
Do we all want to do a supportive one first?
You go first.
I'll get in the zone.
You shaved your bush.
Oh, you shaved your bush.
Oh, my gosh.
I feel like I'm just getting stage right.
Okay.
Oh, you shaved your bush.
Amazing. The next one is disappointed, which is probably how I would feel.
You shaved your bush.
You shaved your bush?
What? You shaved your bush?
Next one is the one I think I'm going to struggle with because it's sarcastic and I don't know how to do sarcasm about this.
Right.
Why am I being talking?
You shaved your bush.
That was perfect.
Oh, you shaved your bush.
Okay, you shaved your bush?
Man, I feel like a woman.
And then the last one is flirty.
Oh, God.
Shave your bush.
That was disgusting.
Oh my God.
You shaved your bush.
Bring us home with Gerard.
You shaved your bush.
Ooh.
Hello.
I've forgotten how to flirt.
Oh, God, that's fantastic.
Okay.
Okay.
No, no, it's nothing to say.
Moving on.
I think we're done.
Let's just end the podcast.
We're done.
First up, the headlines.
So, Northwest, the 13-year-old daughter of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West,
made her first solo appearance on stage at the Lyrical Lemonade Summer Smash Music Festival last week.
She wore her long blue wig that she's been wearing quite often,
oversized black shades and a black Valencia-gha skirt and top.
to perform her 2024 single talking to a seemingly very excited crowd.
But some people are concerned.
And I think I would put myself in that category that North is too young to be pursuing a music career
and should instead be allowed to grow up outside of the public eye.
And I would agree.
Speaking of the Kardashians, Kim caused a few stares in Monaco last week
where she was supporting her boyfriend, Lewis Hamilton, while he competed at the Grand Prix.
In a very awkward gridwalk moment, she was approached by legendary former driver and Sky Sports
interviewer Martin Brundel for comment, but snubbed him on camera in the footage. He introduced
himself, asks how she is, to which she smiles tightly and then looks away. Martin then has to tell
someone off camera, you don't need to push me, mate, before asking again if she's enjoying F1,
she ignores him again before walking off with Chloe and her team, VV awkward. And in another
now quite viral moment, Kim was spotted picking up a towel that was meant for F1A's Kimmy
Antonelli and using it to wipe her sunglasses before just walking off with it. Orcs.
Tyra Banks is suing Netflix for, quote, false light, defamation by implication, breach of contract and
false endorsement for her portrayal in the streamer's recent America's Next Top Model documentary
series. So according to her lawsuit, she was interviewed by them for three and a half hours,
but only 16 minutes were shown. It also suggested that the interview was, quote,
reassembled to support a false and defamatory narrative unrelated to what.
she actually expressed and that the accountability Ms. Banks took ended up on the cutting room floor.
It goes on to say, quote, the false narrative the producers constructed through selective editing,
deliberate omission, and surgical manipulation of continuous footage included that Ms. Banks
knowingly allowed a contestant to be sexually assaulted on her show, exploited that contestant's
trauma for ratings, and then could not even remember it when she was asked.
That narrative about Ms. Banks is a complete fabrication, one that Netflix streamed,
to a global audience of millions
the defamation lawsuit claims.
The New York Knicks have won the NBA championship
after a 53 year title drought
and they beat the San Antonio Spurs
9490 on Saturday night
and speaking to ESPN moments after the victory,
Nick's superfan, our own little Timmy,
Timothy Shalameh said,
way rather this than the Oscars,
come on, baby, Knicks are the champions, baby.
I don't know what I've gone.
Oh, Austin Powers.
It was.
It was. The games took place in Texas with other famous attendees,
including Prince Harry, Sydney, Sweeney, Spike Lee, and Ben Stiller, and celebrations carried on all weekend across New York.
And I did share a tweet and I stand by this that I just want the next win because I want Zora and Mamandani to be happy because he is my mayor.
Elon Musk has become the world's first trillionaire after his company SpaceX made its stock market debut, which was the biggest in history.
SpaceX designs build and launches rockets and Starlink satellites for global broadband cover and runs AI chatbot GROC.
Due to his holdings in the company as well as stocks he holds in Tesla, Bloomberg calculates that Elon Musk is now worth over a trillion dollars.
To put this into perspective, the average US worker would take 15.6 million years to earn this amount.
And when written down, $1 trillion is a one followed by 12 zeros.
The news has been met with outrage online.
Bernie Sanders has called for the US to lift the cap on taxable income and pointed out that Musk
currently pays the same amount into Social Security as someone making $184,000.
He wrote on X,
if we end that absurdity, we can make Social Security solvent for 75 years
and expand benefits by $2,400.
Kirstama has announced that under 16s in the UK will be banned from social media by spring 2027.
The ban will apply to TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat, Instagram, X, Reddit, Facebook, Twitch, Kick and Threads.
However, the government have said they do not intend for it to affect.
messaging services like WhatsApp or Signal. AI chat bots that offer any sexual or romantic
companionship will also be forced to enforce a minimum age of 18. The government are also considering
overnight curfews and breaks in infinite scrolling for under 18 year olds. Adults will be able to access
social media through age checks like facial recognition, digital IDs, passports and credit cards.
The Prime Minister has this to say. Parents want to keep their kids safe and happy, but the online
world has made that harder than ever. I've heard firsthand from families crying out for change,
and we will do right by them. That's why we're going further than any country in the world by banning
social media for under 16s and putting wider protections in place to give kids their childhood back.
This is a line in the sand. Tech giants had their chance and failed, but we're stepping in to
protect children, back parents and set a new normal for future generations. On the morning of the
announcement, the BBC went into a secondary school to discuss the ban with under 16s. One
expressed concern about not being able to contact her friends and family. And when asked what she would do
with all of her new free time, she joked, stare at a wall. 20-year-old looks maxa, clavicular, who we spoke
about last year on the podcast, has had a nose job. The procedure, which was performed by
American celebrity surgeon Dr. Miami, was live streamed on the 3rd of June. However, since clavicular,
real name Braden, Eric Peters, revealed his new nose to his followers, there has been some speculation
that it's been botched does not fit his proportions and will need to be revised.
Clivocular has made no secret of his willingness to do whatever it takes to achieve perfection,
and he's talked about using methamphetamins to suppress appetite,
taking testosterone before the age of 15,
and recently having his ears corrected in a vertical commas.
Participants of the reality show, married at Versailles, Australia,
have said they've been left feeling unsafe and unprotected
after it was withheld from them that their on-screen partners had criminal pasts.
This comes after the UK version of the show was the subject of a BBC Panorama documentary investigation,
which cited rape and abuse allegations from female contestants.
Two grooms from a recent Australian series had criminal convictions,
which their wives weren't made aware of until filming was complete.
The government has won its appeal to uphold the ban on direct action group, Palestine Action.
Early this week, the Court of Appeal overturned the High Court's decision from February
that found the ban to be unlawful.
The ruling means it remains an offence to support the group.
Since the group's prescription, more than 3,000 people have been arrested for peaceful protests against the decision.
This all follows a sentencing last week for Palestine action activists who were convicted of criminal damage at a facility owned by Elbit Systems, which is Israel's biggest weapons manufacturer.
Despite not being found guilty of terrorism offences, the four were sentenced as terrorists.
And that's all from the headlines this week.
So Tommy Fury and Molly May finally announced the name of their newborn sung this weekend.
The baby boy who was born earlier this month is called
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Midas.
The couple revealed the name via Tommy's boxing shorts,
which he wore to a match on Saturday.
Before she gave birth, she posted a YouTube video
and she revealed that the name of the baby
would be unique.
And she said,
it's definitely not as different as Bambi, I would say,
but I've only ever heard one other child be called it
and it's not something in the public eye.
She also said jokingly that she can't wait for everyone.
to hate on it. As I'm sure many of you will already know, in Greek mythology, Midas is the name of an
ancient king who, after taking in the father figure of the god Dionysus, is granted a reward of
his choice. Midas decides he wants everything he touches to turn to gold. First, he's thrilled
with his new gift. He turns a twig to gold, then a stone, then every rose in the rose garden.
Then when it comes time to eat and drink, he realizes his big mistake. All of the food and the
drinks he touches turns to inedible gold in his hands. In some versions of the story, he is able to
reverse the power. But in others, he simply starves to death. So, well, Marzell, congratulations.
Do you both think of this name? Well, my relationship to Midas is, um, the Midas touch,
do-do, do gold finger, he's the man. So I immediately, that is like where my cultural reference
from it, from Goldfinger, the Bond film. And I know that Midas has cursed. And I was just like,
this is, that being said, and I was spoken about before, but,
My Anonian Greek mythology, I won't go through the Holshbiel,
but she's a water nymph or a mountain imp, some people say.
So that's what my parents said it meant.
But the literal translation is wine women.
So you can fuck up a bit with Greek.
Because you can go Greek mythology,
and then you take the mythologising around that name or word
and you use that as the definition.
Or you can do the actual definition.
And in this case, I think they've gone for like what it translates to,
which I think means maybe like strength or power or something
and not looked at the mythology side of it.
That's so funny. I didn't realize, but that makes so much sense now you've said. I know this story once you said it, but I really had not heard the name before. I feel like it's both reminded me. I need to brush up on my Greek mythology. But also, it's such an interesting choice because putting Bambi and Midas together, they're very different vibes. They're such different vibes. I mean, so I grew up in Kent where there's, I know that Tommy Furie and the furry family are not Roman travellers, but I grew up in Kent where there's a big Romney traveller and Gypsy population, which, I mean, by the way,
just in case I was clutching it past.
Like, I mean Gypsy, as in the self-identified, gypsy, the ethnic group, the legally
recognized term, just in a case I know, I was like, hang on, best on a mad one, I'm not.
Anyway, Kent has a really high population of travellers.
So I grew up kind of very close to both, like, new travellers, but also front row seat
for anti-traveller racism.
Anyway, there was a big, there is a big tradition in traveller communities of, you would
hear a lot of paternal, you know, passing down paternal names, a lot of biblical names,
but also you would, there's a lot of very feminine names for girls that denote beauty and preciousness and value and feminine traits, traditional speaking.
But men, it would often be names that are really aspirational.
So relating to strength and glory for little boys' names, whereas I think, and I do find the whole conversation very interesting because obviously there's also the element of his background, her background, but also the fact they are famous and famous people do like to choose something that is,
little bit unique and maybe it will be like what's it called nominal determination where
she will grow up and be as cute as, you know, as Bambi the deer and he will be strong and
prosperous because they've named him this. But also, I just think Midas is really unusual.
I did not see that one coming. Did we talk about that name determinism thing on a recent episode?
Did I tell you? Because me and Poppy were talking about at a wedding and we were going over how it's so
funny that certain people we know actually that have the same name have like,
the same personality traits.
And I do think both my sisters are called Emily and Tiffany
and have gone into quite like mainstream jobs.
And I wonder if being called anoni did make me like it was that,
was I creative because of my name.
This is so funny,
but literally yesterday I got a message from someone going,
can I ask you a question?
Do you like being called an only because I love it for a future child?
But my husband says her life would be more difficult
at having to explain her name every day.
Is it?
Can you tell them it's fine?
And I was like,
that is so funny.
And I was like, I do love it now,
but it is hard.
But it is funny because I think,
in the celebrity world.
And obviously, we've seen it so much with Nara Smith.
And like Gwyneth Paltrow was kind of the pioneer.
And I mean, well, what is everyone calling her?
Gwynnicide Paltrow.
That's a different story.
Which I was going to say, we do look into that as soon as well we, this stage.
I mean, I don't even have the energy to talk about that woman right now.
But obviously calling her daughter Apple.
It's funny because I think we are on the tipping edge where people,
it's already started with people using like granny names.
but I think people are going to go back to like Rachel, Jack, Emma,
because I think we are getting a bit fatigued with sort of like the wild names.
And it's, I mean, it's the pendulum is just swinging as it always does.
Yeah, I do.
I kind of, like, I've said this to you all the time.
I feel like loads of people are like, oh yeah, my name's really difficult.
It's like Catherine with a K and I've like struggled with that my whole life.
And I just look at them.
I'm like, shut up.
Like actually shut up.
But I do really respect you and only for having dealt with the same thing that I probably have
growing up where everyone's like Rechira, Roshira,
and they freak out seeing all the letters when it's not that difficult.
So I feel like we're both of a shared upbringing in that sense.
And I like that.
And I said to her, I was like, I think it'd be different now.
But I had a teacher who I'm sure like willfully would not say my name, right?
Because she was an adult.
I was a child.
And I remember being like, it's anoni.
And she would be like, Anini every time.
Panini, no.
No, anini.
Oh, sorry.
But it was like she just wouldn't.
I was like, it's really not that hard when you think of it,
But I think people now do make more of a conscious effort to say people's names, right.
But that's certainly what people just didn't care.
And obviously there's so many like racial elements to that as well.
Just people, the amount of news anchors that just completely read the name wrong.
And you're thinking, if you know how to research, tell you how to say this person's name.
Side note, do you, do you remember Didi Megadudu, that viral video?
It is a woman, it's a newscaster in America who's reading out the name of a Louisville police officer who has died.
And she's called something.
I can't remember what her actual name is.
but instead of reading the name, she calls her D.D. Mega-Doodoo.
Oh, yes, I do remember.
Oh, it's one of, I mean, it's sad, but it's, it's one of those newscaster fails where
similar to the guy that climbed Mount Everest and they go, and he was gay.
I'm sorry, blind.
It makes me die.
Obviously, it's not all to a part, but today, as mentioned, I'm pissed, guys, I'm drunk.
Not really.
But you know, I now feel mean because I'm like, you know what?
It's actually, my just, it's actually quite a nice name.
And obviously there is the side of it.
It's like everything they touch,
tons of gold.
You're right.
It really does fit in with their family.
But it is funny how stark those two names are,
like this meek, Bambi, sweet little baby dear.
She's not me, though.
She's a biter, didn't she?
Is she?
I don't know anything.
Molly May is so outside of my sphere of what I absorb.
Bambi is fab.
I wish I didn't know anything about Bambi, obviously,
because my opinions on kids on social media.
But one of the things was she was just biting kids a nursery.
And that has been a bit of a meme now.
I do remember that.
Some kids are biters, though.
I saw a really funny video where they're like,
because basically nurseries have to tell you
if there's an incident, I know this is my sister.
And they'll tell you if something happened to your child
or if your child did something.
And it's like two parents.
Then I know a notification from nursery.
And then the notification says your child was bitten by another child.
And then they start like running around celebrating.
Because it's like their child hasn't done the biting.
So they're like, yes.
Oh, God.
But yeah, I mean, I did see, the funny thing was
because they announced it at the fight,
there was all these hans on TikTok
Basie who'd paid $1499
to watch this boxing match
just to see
and he came out in his shorts
and there was this one woman who filmed it
and she thought the baby was called
douche
D-O-O-S-C-H
because there was like a logo
on his shorts and she goes
douche
she's called him douche
and it was so funny
someone else which is this
everyone will have heard this
but Midas is Molly Mae
May plus Adidas
Do you know what
the more we're saying Bambi and Midas
actually really like them
but also I had to
say I don't really care about what money made calls of kids.
What I do care about is, sorry, this is derailing the conversation.
Why the fuck have we not seen Dural Leap's wedding dress?
I am going outside of my mind.
Yeah.
It must be intentional.
Well, it obviously is intentional at this point.
So there must be something coming, something really big.
Maybe it's like a campaign.
Because I started this rumor that, well, no, someone told me and then I told my friend
Livy that she's got an exclusive with Vogue.
Then we saw Livy last night, Livy told us that.
And I was like, I started that rumor.
is coming from inside the house.
Is a locked echo chamber, you two,
just like feeding each other back the same things you've told each other.
She literally would be like, did you hear him?
I told you that yesterday.
She said, oh, yeah.
You're so, so funny today.
But what do you both make of to try and get us back on track?
I think that's actually impossible.
I think we are going to have to just leave in a minute.
I did watch a video on TikTok where people said
a lot of people nowadays seem to forget
that they are naming future adults
and not just like you little babies.
Like there was a kind of stitched video with one woman
who described with us.
of as a self-professed baby name consultant reveals that she had named her baby
W-R-I-G-L-E-Y.
What?
Right.
And the comments were like, someone wrote, come on girl, you name him as he is a candy.
He is a person.
And someone else said, is his rage bait?
And someone else said, parents, stop naming your kids.
Like they're going to grow up and not remain babies challenge.
Or like, they're not going to grow up or something.
And I was like, there may be something in that there is a bit of a spate, I think
encouraged by Nara Smith and maybe Molly May of these cutesy names.
that really do suit babies because babies are cutesy and then you go that person's got to pay taxes
someday. Oh my God, government name, Wrigley J. That can't be legal. But do you not think it's the
inverse of when we were at school and we would all laugh like, how could you have a baby and call
it Keith or Steve or Barry? And we'd be like how, like, how, because it makes sense when you meet
an adult called Keith. I actually have a friend from school called Keith. But you just think it's so normal,
but what was that like having a bit? I'm trying to think of another, like Steve, actually Steve's
quite cute. But do you know what I mean? It's kind of like maybe before people were naming them
for like their adult self. Yes, baby Albert. No, that's cute as well. Alby.
Alby's cute. I just, it almost feels like you should have a name for when they're a baby and then
a name for when they have a personality and they like grow into traits and passions and ideas
and things like that. But obviously that's just like a bizarre concept. But I kind of feel like as we're
talking, that makes sense to me now.
But isn't that what you, like my friend of school is called Lexi and I'm so remember
when we're little, she's like, when I'm an adult, I'm going to be called Alexandra.
But we've ever understood.
Yes, exactly like that.
You would have like a nickname at school, like Millie, but then when I'm 30, I'll be Melissa.
Do you know what I mean?
I remember us all talking about it.
Like you'd have your little nickname and then you grow out of it, but you never really do.
And loads of people I know have reclaimed their full name as they've gotten older and it's so nice.
It feels like, yeah, they've like grown into like a new phase.
I really like it.
I do like it as well.
Should I be Bethany then?
Because I'm not...
I love that.
No, you're a Beth.
No, you're a Beth.
I met last night a really lovely Lizzie,
and she's an Elizabeth, so I went,
okay, we're not natural enemies.
But obviously, when I meet another Beth, I'm like,
hmm, even worse, a Bethanne, can't bear it.
One of my best friends called Bethan,
but I love that you're Bethany.
I love that also in my phone, you're just Beth.
I always think that one of the chair.
Yeah, my chair.
Me, Ritera Sharma and Beth.
Yeah, names are bonkers.
No judgment, though.
No judgment here, apart from all that judging
that we literally just did.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're quite snarky.
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