Everything Is Content - Did we need another One Day adaptation?

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Join Beth, Ruchira and Oenone for this loved-up edition of Everything Is Content! So… what happened this week, lovebirds? A terrifying turtle was fished out of a pond in Cumbria, Ice Spice learned the rules of American football and we all got to enjoy Zac Efron’s Lord Farquad-esque hairdo in The Iron Claw.  And look, we are going to talk about the Super Bowl - but we’re going to steer clear of Taylor Swift discourse for this week. Every time we mention her we’ll be putting £1 in our private jet fund... promise. And a gentle reminder for you to get your copy of Eliza Clark’s Penance. We’ll be discussing it on the podcast on 8th March. On the podcast for you today we have...0:54 - What have we been loving this week?7:20 - Galentines Day17:18 - One Day 32:41 - The Super Bowl —THE GUARDIAN: The Iron Claw review APPLE TV: Criminal Record BBC: Happy Valley BBC: Meet Fluffy the alligator snapping turtle found in Urswick Tarn, CumbriaNEW YORK TIMES: 13th February - A Holiday I Prefer Not To Celebrate NETFLIX: One Day BBC: I rarely saw people like me in lead roles, says Ambika ModAMAZON: Mr. & Mrs. Smith Beyoncé announces Act II of Renaissance at the Super Bowl and releases two singles Michael Cera X Cera Ve — Beth’s book Romanticise Your Life is out now! https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1398720860/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1706812058&sr=8-1  —Follow us on Instagram:@everythingiscontentpod @beth_mccoll @ruchira_sharma@oenone ---Everything Is Content is produced by Faye Lawrence for We Are GrapeMusic: James RichardsonPhotography: Rebecca Need-Meenar Artwork: Joe Gardner  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

this is around violets blue everything is we love pop culture so do you oh that's good so i think that's good and we'll say it all together i'm beth i'm richira and i'm an only roses are red violets are blue everything is content and we're bringing it to you oh love is love is still in the air after Valentine's Day. This podcast is us pulling back the arrow on Cupid's bow and piercing the heart on the cultural conversation. On today's episode, we'll be discussing the show that everyone cannot stop talking about. Netflix is sensational one day.

Do not worry, we will not give you any spoilers. Before we get started, make sure you're subscribed and that you follow us on Instagram at everything is content pod so we can keep up with you between episodes. I thought I'd give you a quick heads up that you may hear some spicy language in this episode so don't say we didn't warn you. Now enjoy. Okay girls what have you been loving this week? So I actually watched Iron Claw over the weekend and I really want to talk about it. Have you girls heard of Iron Claw with Zac Efron? I've seen the trailer.

I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen the trailer. I've seen the pictures of them all. So I know who's in it. I don't really know anything else. Okay, so Iron Claw. I didn't realize this, but it's a real story of a wrestling family called the von erics

and i don't really i don't really have any business with wrestling i don't really care too much about it but i really enjoyed the film it's not my top film from the past year but it's definitely up there and i think zach efron was actually amazing in it he kind of was one of those performances where at the beginning you're not really focusing on him and then throughout the story you kind of realize that he's the anchor for all of it and you're only staring at him is it one of those films that with the knowledge of it being true it makes it a million times better or would it be a good film even if it wasn't true that's a really good question i i didn't know it was real i still enjoyed it then finding out it was real

brought it up a thousand percent for me I kind of love it more when it's that way when you enjoy it and then you find out afterwards it's a true story because when you go into it knowing it's true it's not as exciting as finding out afterwards so you would recommend a watch I would recommend it it's it's quite long it's quite I don't know my boyfriend started tuning out and I get that but I think it is well worth a watch because the story itself is kind of insane. And also one thing I will say is it was quite hard to get over Zac Efron's physicality because have you seen how absolutely stacked he is?

I've just seen their hair, which is quite distracting. I've not looked at their bodies. It's really, really distinctive, like Lord Farquaad cuts. Hideous, absolutely hideous. It looks more like it's gonna be like a magic mike type film from your face i'm guessing it's not um it's the greasy bodies very hench greasy bodies men bodies men bodies greasy bodies girls it's really sad oh okay it's like a real real sad film so please don't go and think it's magic mike because i feel like

personally like i'm to blame if you think that and then cry by the end oh okay i might go and see that i need something i need to cry more i am interested in it what is the actual premise so yeah so it's based on this wrestling family it's um without going too much into spoilers it's just a classic sports story of following this family where all of them get into wrestling they have a dad that's pushing them pushing them pushing them too far and it's following the kind of tragedy and the trauma of that family setup basically and it's got jeremy alan white from the bear yes it's got the guy from triangle of sadness can't remember his name no no that's julie's boyfriend sorry harris dickinson is his name and lord fart called himself zach

efron with the little brunette hair yeah really good lineup and all of them doing a really good job of presenting the family i will say it is a lengthy one as i said before so if you don't like kind of meandering stories the reason why it is meandering is so much happens to this one family you can't you can't cut any of it okay i definitely want to see that's a great recommendation and only what have you got for us i've actually been watching criminal record on apple tv which is new this year i think it started coming out in january and it's basically your uk-based police drama it's got peter capaldi kush jumbo and it's just it's quite a hooky one and it is like a police drama but it's it's like more highbrow than your happy valley i would say although i loved happy valley i've never watched

it i've never watched that i know oh my god are you guys joking i know i hadn't watched it either and then someone recommended it to me and it was one of those ones where i didn't go to bed for about three weeks or no two days i literally watch all of the episodes it's on bbc why is it so good though because i don't understand we've had so many cop dramas. It feels like there's not a shortage of cop dramas. Why was that good? So Sarah Lancashire and James Norton, I mean Sarah Lancashire's performance alone,

she's like the main protagonist policewoman. She is unbelievable. James Norton is this gorgeous, awful criminal that they've had this like longstanding knowledge of each other. It's basically one of those things that leaves everything on such a big hook that you actually can't like you almost would have to stop watching it 15 minutes before the end if you didn't want to watch the next episode because you can't bear like the cliffhanger that it leaves you on is too good but anyway would recommend but back to criminal record apple tv sat in london basically

what happens is there's this 909 call and it's a woman on the phone but she won't give over any details and she's like calling about a domestic abuse situation and it kind of reopens up this case which has been previously been solved so it's just like a good and peter capaldi i love i do too yeah so beth what have you been loving i've been loving fluffy the alligator snapping turtle exclusive the dinosaur yeah pokemon you'll i'll show you a picture you won't believe this guy is real he was found in cumbria which is not where they're native to i think the most fun florida he was living by a lake um and it's quite concerning because they're quite dangerous i mean they look like creatures from

the pit of hell. And they can break your arm with, like, they can bite fingers off. They can do damage. This one was like a baby one, apparently. Right. But it was still revolting. God, he's horrible for a baby. I saw it on the BBC and then there was loads of comments on Twitter from people from the US being like, that's not even a big one.

You should see how big they get. But they had to basically take it out, like, fish it out out because fluffy would have eaten like everything in the ecosystem and then gotten so big oh and it says like he's obviously was used to the climates or built for the climates of florida but he's doing okay despite living in cumbria which is pretty cold at this time says he's gonna be moved to a specialist wildlife center in cornwall so happy ending when i saw the video it looked like he was dead because he was so still and his mouth was really open and he's like really spiky anyway i was like reading all the comments and everyone was like is he dead and then someone you know there's always someone who knows they were like no he's just really angry and when they're angry

they keep their mouth open oh my god i do something similar i just he just doesn't look like a thing like have you seen that tweet this week where it was like David Attenborough going through the animals and he sees one he's like don't like that one skip it skip that one that's what I feel about Fluffy I'm like skip that one just I don't ever want to hear from him again I really do enjoy how basic the level of humor of calling him Fluffy because also that is what Hagrid calls the three-headed dog in Harry Potter reference I like it less now yeah yeah I know I'm sorry Harry Potter reference I like it less now yeah yeah I know I'm sorry it's been a very romantic week we've had Valentine's Day we've had Pancake Day which is obviously also full of love because I love pancakes and it's been Galentine's Day which

happens on the 13th the day before valentine's day i love galentine's day and i celebrate this and i am tired of the slander what's the slander tell me i have seen two tweets this week two tweets so bloody insurrection about galentine's honestly i've seen two tweets making fun of it i had another group chat with people talking shit about it and i just feel like when was it cool to start talking shit about Galentine's Day so the New York Times released an audio essay this week Christina Samuliski makes the case for and this is her words doing away with Galentine's Day she calls it patronizing and she wants to get rid of it and I could not disagree with her more did you guys listen to this slash read anything about this?

I haven't. So no, tell me about it. Okay, so her argument is that one, it's like a separate day for celebrating love, which we can do on the 14th, whether we're coupled up, whether we're single. We're celebrating it before the big day. So it's kind of like inconvenient. It's like separating the two. And that also it's like all the worst things about like patriarchy feminism it's it's kind of for single women to feel treasured on a day and that she just doesn't

really feel empowered by it but i just don't think that's the point i don't think it's there to be empowering it's just hang out with your mates you know what else is funny first of all it's not just single women i think all friends now like use galentine days the day to hang out with each other but also when you see women celebrating each other for galentine's day it's always we're in each other's houses we're eating sweets we're like painting each other's nails brushing each other's hair we're telling each other we love each other it the commercial side actually comes in when it's like heteronormative relationships where you like are going out for a nice meal or buying each other cards or presents i actually think women do galentine's Day as friends the girlies the

gays and the theys take this holiday seriously and as much as I do want to be appreciated on Valentine's Day because well I'll get FOMO yeah I do not believe in it but we better have plans yeah because otherwise I'll be sad I agree completely I think I'll do both and I think the point that she makes at Galentine's Day is this sort of like tacked on at the beginning as like it's less important I'm like one if it's a 13 the restaurants the bars are not gonna be as busy you know also if you're if you've got a partner and you still want to celebrate your friends you can just have two separate nights I don't get why this is so deep like I don't understand why people having fun on this day means that you have to say it's not empowering for yourself it just isn't that deep to me and I think it's she makes an interesting point and and I I kind of like respect her right

to say it I'm sure people will agree I just couldn't disagree more as someone who's celebrated Galentine's Day whether I've had a boyfriend whether I haven't it's just an excuse to like go out with my mates like my housemate and I've lived together for six years we have gone out I think most years on the 13th we kept dressed up any excuse and I just don't think we're not being pandered to we're sort of just deciding we love each other we're having a little night out it's also not like a serious thing it's definitely like kind of silly and there was some pushback about the idea of the word galentines again being like silly or infantilizing it's like sometimes women just want to be girls we're girls

isn't there palentines have i just made that up i think that is the thing as well because galentine's day was invented by leslie snoop knoop what was her name leslie nope or parks and rec leslie knoop yes where did i get knoop from i honestly don't know i think it's spelt like leslie nope with a k who is the protagonist of Parks and Rec. And so she invented this in like 2010, which is like a long time to be celebrating this gorgeous day. I forgot that it was her, to be honest, that had invented it. I feel like it's got nicer origins than Valentine's Day, which kind of feels like really commercialized. Like that I can see having a problem with.

Yeah. A little day to like kiss your friends on the face. No, no problem. Just get a real problem one thing i was thinking about this year is i feel like i recognized myself that i used to be quite snarky about valentine's day i don't know if it's like me realizing that part of me was kind of pick me about valentine's day because i realized that basically my partner's birthday is on valentine's day so i have this reason that to celebrate him and like celebrate love blah blah blah that isn't exactly Valentine's Day specific and like part of my brain was like oh I get to be really smug that I'm like doing something on this day and it's not Valentine's Day and I

caught myself and I was like that's actually quite snarky like why do I think that and then I had to realize that I think there was this kind of teenage version of myself that thought I was better than Valentine's Day and I'm actually not like it's a really sweet day I think it is kind of like a bit of internalized for such that every boyfriend I've ever had is always like oh I don't really care about if you want to do something and I used to try and be like okay and I'm like no let's just do exactly what it's for which is that you don't have to buy the Clinton's card I was trying to think what the English equivalent of a hallmark is because we don't do we have a hallmark here no no Clinton's cards which I also don't have to buy that I was trying to think What the English equivalent Of a hallmark is Because we don't Do we have a hallmark here? No

No Clinton's cards Which I also don't know If that exists anymore I think that's probably administration Scribbler is where I would go For all of my cards Paper chase

The best in my opinion I think Scribbler's better Also the paper chase They may close down I thought paper chase was gone I went to paper chase today To get some wrapping paper I think you went back in time love

Oh yeah Oh my god You went in the wormhole Oh my god Yeah this is it You don't have to do all is it you don't have to do you don't have to do anything it's just like an excuse to be like maybe i'll you know and in this whole world with my time or go on a date it's always nice to have an excuse to go on a date

yeah exactly i'm not really moved by valentine's day but i'd love to see other people do it i love to see men write cute captions i love the whole like spectacle of it i'm just not bothered i love anniversaries but either way it is just you're tacking on to the year in this cold hard world a moment a day to be like love is real i've got some in my life whether it's your friends or your partner i love that me and my friends are actually talking about this the other day when i saw them my school friends at our school you could buy like roses like guys would buy roses for the girls and literally like in mean girls you know when they handed out the candy canes they would come around and drop off the roses on your desk so you'd be in a class with all your friends and like four of the girls might

get roses and there was always like one girl in a class that would get like five roses but how wild is that and you just have to sit there and I remember once like not getting any and then like a geography lesson or something and someone else had four and you just be mortified and like had to pretend that you were fine with it how bad is that I guess there is that element like competitiveness I remember like I used to when I was like lonely and I would go on Instagram and everyone seemed to have like all these flowers and stuff and obviously now I know that that doesn't signal a good relationship but there is an element of like outdoing each other yes which I remember we did the same thing with carnations because obviously didn't go to as nice a school to be fair they probably were they were just red flowers

um do you think it's still a thing to try and outdo each other on Valentine's Day with like Instagram posts of like, the boy did good and like my boyfriend did this or do you think we've moved past that kind of trend? I think other people

do do that a lot. Like you do, especially in celebrity culture, like how many roses does someone want to send Kardashian this year? I think buying flowers is lovely and I do think I love

the idea of roses but I do think these like big displays, I think it's maybe more of like a reality TV star thing but that does bleed into people finding that aspirational or if your relationship is bad when I was in my worst relationships I wanted physical tokens of love that I could show other people to be like I am in a good relationship don't worry whereas in good relationships I'm like so not bothered about that because we've got all the good stuff

it's really interesting that that is not a big thing to me anymore I must say I love a good card I really like funny cards and I really like a thoughtful quite I write a card like it's a book like it's both sides are fully written I love it but also cards cost fucking loads of money five in our basically for cards Jesus Christ where we headed but like we had a little like lunch out today and I just think like if people looking at that be like girls out for lunch galentines do people really look at that and be like, girls out for lunch, Galentine's. Do people really look at that and think sad? Or do they think, well, this is fun. Like it's a week of love.

I don't know. I feel like it's the same thing with Galentine's Day. I feel like people are a bit snarky about it. And I just don't really understand if people enjoy something, why does it either take something away from you? Or why do you judge it? I don't get it. I feel like people talk about being in a relationship and being single

in these absolute ways, which is just so silly it's like it's either super empowering or it's disempowering it can just be a thing that people do yeah it's just like pancake day or a Tuesday yes it doesn't have to we don't have to have discourse I know we're doing a bit discourse now but we're discussing discourse because everything is content I think yeah it's that people don't like women we just assume that there must be something else going on like we're discussing the discourse because everything is content i think yeah it's that people don't like women we just assume that there must be something else going on like we're commiserating about not having a man we are talking about everything we're talking about space we're talking about war we're looking in each other's ears we're starting businesses we're starting

businesses we're starting podcasts but this is so someone else tweeted every single year i see dudes laughing at the idea of galentines i've never heard of this it's for lonely women when according to studies it's men who are the lonely women so like pick up the phone and call friends and it's so true because it's like actually men would really benefit from having the kind of relationships that women have it's one of the biggest privileges i think of being like a cis woman in a society where we can all i mean you're all wearing my pajamas yes we are we could all be plaiting each other's hair we could cry i could give you a wax if you needed one yeah there is there is like there's nothing women won't tell each other and there's no level of intimacy that we you will

find is too far like obviously depending on person to person and so that's what i think galentine's day celebrates is that love between women and i think men are really unlucky that a when they do get to have it often it's in a heterosexual relationship where they shy away from it or they just don't get it that is so sad hello I'm Beth one of the hosts of everything is content I'm really excited to announce that my new book romanticize your life is out now it's a how-to guide for anyone who wants more romance, joy and main character energy in their lives

It's full of stories about dating advice for anxious solo travellers and tips for making each and every day a little bit brighter You can buy it now at any good retailer this week i feel like everyone's been talking about the netflix adaptation of david nichols one day starring ambika mod as emma and leo woodall as dexter the story follows emma and dexter who spend graduation night together they go in their separate ways but they kind of remain friends for the next however many years we keep seeing them on the exact same day across 20 years of their lives oh i've only seen five episodes but my heart is absolutely shattered already have you been watching it oh my god absolutely i finished it i finished it the first

like 48 hours it was out there's like 14 episodes right? Have you read the book? So you've not Neither of you finished the series I've read the book And I watched the film Haven't read the book Have seen the other film With Anne Hathaway

And her horrendous Yorkshire accident So bad So you know how it ends Yeah Do you know what's so annoying Is when I was first watching Started watching episode one

I'd like forgotten And I was just enjoying it And then I suddenly The memory came back to me Of when I first read the book I was on holiday with my family in Spain I think it must have been my early teens and I won't give a spoiler in case people don't know what happens at the end but something happens and I just it was like one of those real turning points in my life where I was like I can't I didn't know stories could take that turn and hurt you in that way yeah it hurts throughout the it's such a beautiful story

it's one of the best I think kind of like love arcs ever but it's like real life amazing things happen terrible things happen and I'm exactly the same it came out in 2009 I think I read it that year and that was the year of my first big heartbreak and I was like oh everything's so hard so we would have been like 15 yeah 15 16 yeah I think that's when I read it as well isn't it interesting that like reading at that age and then I reread it again recently reading it at 16 with like my whole adult life ahead of me and now reading it with like some of my adult life behind me I'm like wow that feels different it really hits harder oddly now like the first time I read it I think I did the same as you of like screaming and wailing and being like surely not what reading it now and watching it now I was like oh it hurts in a deeper place

I don't know if you had this but I kept thinking about how it just is kind of like somewhere between a rom-com and normal people in the it has that similar like similar trope of miscommunication between two people who deeply deeply love each other but just cannot get their shit together and just be honest and vulnerable and I don't know it's just like it's interesting that I thought when I was reading Normal People by Sally Rooney wow this is like such a snapshot of like problems we have now but this story was you know from 2009 and the same problems are there people not communicating to each other yeah it's so timeless and I when I was watching this I was thinking how are they when I was like watching the trailer I was like how are they going to do this because the story's about like a posh white guy and like a working class northern

girl like in 2024 how do you do that without like stoking the kind of culture war a little bit but I think they do it perfectly because it is timeless I think what's clever as well about this being the series is I haven't read the book since the first time i read it but watching the series it's reminded me of how true it is to the book because they've got all this time and every episode is like not that much happens i don't think we get the luxury of that much time for character development anymore normally because shows are like shoved together and even i read a piece that was like David Nichols now says of the infamous Anne Hathaway terrible Yorkshire accent film

that that was a snapshot of the story oh interesting how do you feel Ruchira about them having cast a brown girl brown woman because I've seen like loads of the responses has been people being really happy about this casting and and seeing themselves in her character as well yeah i mean i thought it was nice that um they gave a bit of her backstory like there's a scene between her and leah woodall and instead of just you know like placing her straight in this character they kind of give her some small backstory that her mom was hindu and her dad was christian i remember reading something that david nichols having seen Ambika in the tv adaptation of This Is Going To Hurt immediately felt like he saw Emma in her and I really like that approach where it's

not like I'm going to place this person to get some diversity in here I mean I don't know whether there's more to what he said but feeling that it was genuine and feeling that she encompassed the character feels nice to me and I feel like she really does one thing I really see as well through her version of the character is how snarky she can be and how like she can weaponize her intelligence when she gets like really uncomfortable and really like she's in a place of vulnerability and she's like oh I'm just gonna put Leo Woodall's character down and I don't think I got that with Anne Hathaway so I really feel like she really does a stellar job of playing that character I also wonder if it's because she's British like she just taps into that identity more do you know what I mean and like Anne Hathaway as much I just don't think she had

access to the same level of between Anne Hathaway and what's his name Jim Sturgis there wasn't that friction because she was like doe-eyed and adoring whereas I do think Ambika has this quality to her that makes her like there's something in her that's like very believable yeah but she's really powerfully like she challenges him I think in her like in the way like her physicality the way that like they're physically together it's just so much better because I watched the film this weekend because I was like I need to see it so many people love this book some love these characters and all I've seen is everyone going that's my Emma and that's my Dexter and isn't that sweet for something that's already

been adapted like I don't think you often see something in its second adaptation over a decade since the story was even created and people going you've got it right now well can I'm actually bursting I really want to say that Mr and Mrs Smith also a tv adaptation series that's come out over a decade I think think, after the original. I think it's better. It's so, so good. They've nailed the characters. They've changed up the format.

It's not a married couple that's pre-existing, realizing they're spies. It's a different format. I'm not going to spoil it. But I think it's even better than the original. So I think there is something to say about, obviously, you know, reboot fatigue is a real thing, but maybe they've got a about obviously you know reboot fatigue is a real thing but maybe they've got a point you know I agree with the point about reboot fatigue and I haven't felt like this at all and I do think it's because it gives something so different I would say it's

maybe a little overlong at seven hours with these characters I mean I'm not going to complain about that because it's better than being too little but I at the end I thought the pacing was a little bit slower or like it kind of speeds up and it slows down and I just didn't that's maybe my only critique of it I do think as well it's that the charismatic inherent sexy cheeky naughty boyness of Leo Woodall's character and then Amber Kermod's kind of exactly what you're saying Ruchira it's like she's reserved you know she's got all this love and stuff within her and she has all this feeling towards him but she's like holding back and can be spiky and that is just something i know those two people in my life i've experienced that man and i know that woman do you

know what i mean and you know what i will say about i think he his character is this like rich has always been rich life has been privileged and he's like his life is falling apart and he doesn't quite understand why where she's been like she's had to like kind of graft and work and see the world as it really is she wants to change it but she knows what it's really like and as she's like heading into like love romance building a world for herself his is kind of falling apart it's really interesting to see the reversal of fortunes that they go through like she's a working-class girl and she like kind of she gets it and he's like in his mid-20s before he really like is confronted with the way that things actually are if that makes sense yeah

I also think the world building to me feels very true I feel like the the way that the characters dress I kind of love the way it's filmed it feels quite nostalgic and I did like Dolly Alderson's Everything I Know About Love but I do think these these two are kind of comparable. And One Day for me has, it's got it slightly more right in terms of the note and the tone of the era. Interesting. Because I wasn't sure about like the set dressing and the costuming. I was like, is this really, it didn't feel anachronistic to me. Yeah, for One Day.

I'm not sure like, did people really dress like that in the 80s and 90s? I just, I wasn't sure about that. Oh, really? I thought it was quite convincing. I'd like to read more about that because obviously i was alive at that but i was a kid so i don't really know i'd like to talk to someone who was who maybe got the same time yeah and she's got yeah she's like a high waisted jeans i kept forgetting what year it was i just think it's it felt very modern the fashion right okay interesting it's not awful to say no no you disagree i actually thought it was really subtle i think that's what i right okay interesting it's not awful to say no no it's not you disagree

i actually thought it was really subtle i think that's what i liked about it it's like i felt like i was been taking through time like i could tell that the fashions were changing things were changing but it wasn't being shoved down my throat like loads of props and loads of time signifiers where sometimes i think it can be yeah like salt burn which i loved but it was very heavily trying to be like naughty's nostalgia in your face this is quite like her hair's a bit different things evolve things change because that wasn't the key like the relationships are the main thing the dialogue the way they interact and that was all sublime well in the book i mean they really talk about it being since

swithin's day and they really make note of how it's one day every year and this story kind of doesn't necessarily it's obviously called one day and they show you the day but they don't ever really kind of they don't mention it no in every episode which if i was writing that i'm quite hampered but they do in the film don't they every single time they're like it's since swithin's day yeah yeah it's quite subtle because i thought that too watching it i was like oh i know the premise of this whole thing but it's quite it's not very obvious i think yeah i think if you hadn't seen it before that almost wouldn't even necessarily cross your mind it kind of feels like they spend more time together weirdly than in the book yeah you kind of aren't you're not as aware of the negative space in the series it feels like they're seeing each other

quite a lot whereas in the film it's like they really talk about like how they haven't seen each other for a whole year and they feel like different people if you watch the first episode or like when they do flashbacks you're like wow you look so different i have a question obviously the story of this was originally written in 2009 a lot of stuff has changed since then and a lot of the expectations we have of art has changed since then i'm thinking about all the eat the rich stuff that we have like salt burn I'm thinking of how normal people was labeled as like a class you know dissection of romance in the modern age this does talk about class but it's quite subtle between the two characters do you think that the adaptation on Netflix has been made to be more political than the original book or do you think it rings true to it do you think it feels any different to I guess normal people I do think

what's interesting about this story is like the fact that she's working last from Yorkshire and the fact that he's posh is part of the story but it's not like it's just like those characters are so well developed that the differences that do exist between those kinds of people exist and it doesn't feel like there's a point being tried to be made which sometimes happens I think in current writing where someone's really trying to talk about class and they try so hard that it creates caricatures yeah I think it's well acknowledged and we don't and in the book and in the film and the tv series we don't meet her family which is we don't what we know of her background is in her presentation what she talks about in her life and like what she talks about with her family whereas we meet and get to know his his

family a lot better which yeah it's just an interesting choice that is also such a posh person thing though like meeting someone's family immediately being invited to the dinner table like straight away it's like and also he probably lives near them because like you know if she's down in london i don't know where his family is set but like but it's like or somewhere yeah i remember finding this interesting growing up when i just had friends that were quite posh I found it fascinating that people were always allowed in the house if I wanted to have someone around it was like a massive ordeal like do you know what I mean to have someone to stay or whatever and it's a very like upper class thing I know by the way for listeners I know I sound really posh but I'm not

as posh as you think it's a it's a quite a normal thing to be like people coming and going to lives you know it's very like casual your relationship with your parents is quite adult you're sort of like yeah they're not as mothering or like as strict not always very blanket but I found that that to be really true about his character and I think she even comments on it at one point being like Dexter's like why have I not met my parents she was like why would you meet my parents because for her she's like why would my parents meet you I think they've done such a good job then I think that they it never feels like they've shoehorned in it never feels like they've gone issue first then character second yeah the characters are they are that they are of different classes and they meet and they

go through all of the usual struggles that two people wanting to be friends and would would go through if they are from like wildly different backgrounds I just do think it's really interesting how everything that we consume now is you know seen through the lens of how is it commenting on class and with this I feel like it's only used to literally as you said Anoni develop out the characters as the people they are and it's not making a point about class or class division I think but is that because Sally Rooney's held it as some genius because she's writing like as an Irish woman that's commenting on I don't know abortion rights and a kind of a changing cultural landscape as Ireland is ever ever changing and growing is it because of that

position whereas David Nichols is a white man writing a love story and so he's given the freedom to kind of play about with these characters without receiving that and I also do think Sally Rooney does have like an intellectual intention with her writing not that David Nichols doesn't but I maybe that's also just from how I've been taught like taught to read her I feel like that's just people's response to her work as well isn't it where it's like people took her work to be this giant comment on how we live as a generation whereas people don't treat one day like that at all they treat it more like you know an intellectual rom-com generation. Whereas people don't treat one day like that at all. They treat it more like, you know,

an intellectual rom-com perhaps. Thing is, I don't know if the book was treated as intellectual. I think it was like not a chick flick because he's written other, have you read Starter for 10 or any of his other books? I've seen the film for Starter for 10. Oh, I haven't seen the film.

I loved the book. Because basically when I read one day, I then went, I found out that he'd written like loads of other books and I started reading them all. He followed me on Twitter actually randomly. Really? Oh my God. And then I never, that was like a couple years ago and I haven't basically tweeted since. I'm so worried that he'd written like loads of other books and I started reading them all he followed me on twitter actually randomly and then I never that was like a couple years ago and I haven't basically tweeted since I'm so worried that he'll see like a bad tweet we can we can message him and say how has your work been interacted with versus the work of young female

novelist really interesting I don't know I've never even considered that point but if there's someone to write the piece on it it's gonna be you oh well commission me folks um yeah maybe i'm mad do you see why i'm comparing the two i just couldn't i do i do completely because they're both stories with very similar they're both stories about two people from different backgrounds who you know friends and in love so i just you know why would they be so wildly different i'm not gonna lie i think netflix was dying a death this seems to be like it feels like every six months they just have a real yeah it's so true we get obsessed because i keep going i'm gonna delete my netflix because i have every subscription account and then yeah i watch this

obviously in the blink of an eye i i know everything about it i've seen so many spoilers for this show on the internet with like no context you couldn't avoid them just like gifs of like endings gifs of things and i thought i've seen so many of them and i'm just a gog i think it's such bad manners and i'm really like it only came out the weekend i know and i've seen some people be like come on internet i haven't seen any you know give me i mean i will say one because i've interacted with a lot of one day tweets because i watched it it's showing me more but still i think these could come across um someone's timeline and wreck the whole thing.

So I just think that's just bad manners. You know. That did happen to me with Traitors. Like, I would, if I didn't watch it on the day, that was fucked.

No, completely agree. Tag your spoilers, people. Yeah. So if you want to watch One Day, all episodes are actually now out on Netflix. So go give it a watch so did you guys watch the super bowl on sunday no i did google what sport it was i wasn't confident have you ever do you think this is like the biggest it's

been is that because of she we cannot speak about her again i'm sorry on this podcast well yeah i think we're not going to mention taylor i think anyone any one of us who talk about her after this we have to put a pound in the private jet fund i agree um before we begin talking about the superbowl and maybe this is even why we want to talk about the superbowl i want to read out frankie boyle's tweet which i thought was really good it read i can't help feeling that what's happening in gaza is the beginning of the end for all of us if we can have a genocide live stream during the Super Bowl and say nothing there's no challenge in the coming years that we won't fail and I feel like for us and maybe for lots of people one of the biggest takeaways from the Super Bowl was the fact that there were 123.4 million people watching

talking about it and at the same time Israel started bombing the Rafah crossing I don't even know if we want to talk about that that much but I feel like we can direct people's place to read because I don't know what we'll have to add to that but I think it is a really sickening distinction any other year we'd be having a fun conversation about like a sports event which is basically like a celebrity gala yeah but it is that America and the world watched this happening so I do think we will talk about it but it just makes it adds a complexity because how can we talk about this like fun celebrity moment when a lot of the celebrities there are like have said nothing a lot of celebrities there like are being worshipped and have sway and nothing's happening I don't know

it feels like insane making I don't know how you guys feel yeah no we have to acknowledge it we absolutely have to acknowledge it I think it would feel like we were all kind of losing the plot if we just ignored that this massive thing was a part of what's happening with the Super Bowl these two things are intrinsically tied now because of the timing and we have to acknowledge it yeah I think it's really good that we acknowledge that but then talking about like the Americanization of it, I think is kind of the fascination with the Super Bowl. But it's so interesting to me as a concept because it's like, what is it? I think the first time I became aware of the Super Bowl

was it Lady Gaga that did the massive- Lady Gaga did a crazy one. How long ago was that? It definitely was pre-pandemic. I want to say like 2018 was Lady Gaga. That might even have been the first time that I've actually watched a Super Bowl performance. When was Beyonce?

We had Beyonce and Britney Mars I loved but also that was like it was still a bit more laid back then I mean I only watched them so I've never watched

a Super Bowl I expect I never will but I get all the feed from it the next day so I'm sort of trying to piece together which year was which because I don't

yes I couldn't tell you who's played in any given year or who's won well it's also been just like a massive part of celebrity

lore and history because remember Janet Jackson Nipplegate oh my god that was Justin Timberlake yeah that was a Super Bowl that was the performance so it's it's always been around I guess I agree with you and only it's only been like the last few years it's been at the forefront of my periphery and I think it's just the internet regurgitating bits and pieces from the Super Bowl in a way that never really would have got to me before I wanted to go back to that Janet Jackson Justin Timberlake things that actually came up on my feed the other day because you know that everyone's hating on Justin Timberlake because of um Britney Spurs' book and apparently he's going to do like a tell-all now with Oprah and so I didn't know

about this thing where he exposes her breast and so I read this whole thread then I read this whole other thing where it was like apparently that was an orchestrated part of the move and it was not meant to show her boob it was meant to show like this I've heard but I've also in the aftermath when she was getting all that hey I feel like he said nothing he didn't say a word and that's why I've been a long time Justin Timberlake hater and that's why not because of the boob I didn't know that this had all happened I didn't know that she'd lost jobs isn't that wild how much do we hate women like that she her boobs exposed and she was blacklisted for yeah a decade yep her career was tanked he never said a word also sorry i i've been activated now but um did you also hear what happened to mia when she put the middle finger up as part of her set i

can't remember who she performed but i think it was nikki and somebody else um she put her middle finger up and her career also tanked after that because everyone was like she hates the us she should be grateful that she's here and she got that slot she basically said fuck you to america how dare she because it's the most page and it's one of the most patriotic which tells us all we need to know about america that a sports event is like this heart and soul but that is wild why would you even accept that gig i guess going forward if you were not like a man well i guess that brings us back to all of these celebrities that were part of it who many of which haven't

commented on gaza or any political issues that matter beyonce for example announced part two of renaissance at this gig and we've spoken about her before how she's very explicitly not political in what she says or does so the super bowl is a great gig for her and somebody like taylor swift as well isn't that so interesting because you think i mean i'm thinking of annie lennox now in her tribute to junaid o'connor at the grammys saying c-spy now because that's the kind of thing that junaid o'connor would have done interestingly there is sorry guys you're gonna be like where the hell is she going with this there is a exhibition on at the minute in the tape britain called women and revolt which we want to go and see and it's about

like feminist women through the ages and Moya Lothian-McLean friend of the podcast went a few weeks ago and she did this like twitter thread about it and her and her mum were talking about how feminist women throughout the ages used to fight and stand up more and now I think with this current wave of feminism and I love it don't get me wrong I buy into it all but there's ways in which people can frame Beyonce and Taylor Swift as feminist but really like feminism is like women in revolt it's standing up at something like the Super Bowl when you're about to perform and saying ceasefire now like that it makes me want to cry that these things can happen that these people have these stages and we've gone so far into capitalism

that people that are artists and artists are normally so closely tied into politics and the political movements and are about the artists and the struggle and the pain and the world and whatever and it's like what dystopia are we living in that that's the biggest platform can you like the world could have been changed yeah they're sitting happily like in ivory towers and yeah they're legions of fans a lot of whom are women are defending their their right not to say anything it's you know women don't owe you anything and and you know let them live and whatever like they're not your puppets no they're not but in a world like this world at such crucial time you would just ask like use just any one of your the many tools at your disposal to say something even if it is your music you know do the thing that you're best at write a song

put on a concert even just like the bare bones you would expect and they're happily sitting there mute because i do agree i often do that thing of saying like people don't know us anything but then when i was thinking about how much women risk, how they really were on the front lines, how they were revolting, how they were like fighting. We're just too comfortable. We actually do owe each other anything.

And if we want a world to live in, if we want a just world, we want a good world. We do owe each other everything. And if you have more, you give more. And I just think they can't ask for anything in return. Our like devotion,

our money, like our continued support if they aren't willing to do the same for us like the collective us I just it does make me really angry and I caught myself being like amazing Beyonce's got this new album coming out I listened to the songs big country fan thought this can be great she's got a country album coming out and I just thought hang on am I like missing the point should I need to like snap out of it and like I don't know it's a whole thing feels like a mess. No, I completely agree where you guys are coming from.

And I completely see where you're saying it's kind of, it makes me feel sad that we could live in a world where everyone ultimately is like, well, I don't owe X person X thing. I want people to want to do something if they get that level of fame and that platform. I want there to be like a drive to be like, I want to make this world better. That's what I want. I want to believe human nature is intrinsically good. I think we've got to this level of fame and that platform i want there to be like a drive to be like i want to make this world better that's what i want to believe human nature is intrinsically good i think we've got to

this level i think it's a point of empathy as people looking up to celebrities and going oh they don't ask anything and i think i'm sure we've exercised that right as people and like sent me in the public eye and thought well i don't owe people anything whatever at the same time have we gone so far into this like neoliberal individualistic way of living that it's like what materially would happen to be on say like we've just spoken about Janet Jackson being blacklisted but could Beyonce is is an empire like could she couldn't if she said cease fire now that would have what would actually can you imagine like it would actually be in the I mean I can't even imagine what would happen and just

to reiterate sort of how huge this year's super bowl was it is the most watched broadcast in the u.s since the 1969 moon landing and again that was 123.4 million people watching this year i mean i can't imagine a more seismic event. So I think- And a platform that could have been used. Yeah. Should we break down a bit of what went on at the Super Bowl? Yeah, because a lot happened. Because I think it'd be easier to list the people that weren't there.

The people that were. Like, everyone was there. You had your, she must not be named. You had Lana Del Rey getting, like, knocked backwards in the celebrations. Did you see that? Tag yourself who you are, are because I was ice spice being explained the sport the whole way through that would have been me did you not see every single clip someone was explaining to her like I'm there like you can see and she's like nodding but actually has no idea she's there for the vibes who would you have been I would have been Michael Cera in the Super Bowl campaign for

CeraVe did you see that no love sarah v yeah i love sarah v already use their products but i think i would double use their products after this ad it's just it's just like somebody on mushroom designed this if they literally got him because his name is like half the brand yeah the point of the commercial is like him pitching himself he's like i'm michael sarah v and this is my cream human skin is my passion terrible voice at one point isn't he having a massage by himself? I think so. There's two of him, one on the massage table

and then him massaging himself. Oh, I love him. And like as much as anyone, the point of the Super Bowl as well, like they sell ad space for like the most incredible figures. So like people do say they watch it for the adverts, which is kind of dystopian, but also hilarious. That's how Beyonce in a Verizon commercial

announced her next album. So it's like a huge thing the ads which did you realize that song was stereo lane no I saw a tweet and they were like it's on yeah so it's funny like I watched I like didn't watch any of the coverage and people like oh don't watch the football match but do go and watch the adverts I'm like Jesus Christ we're living in like so many layers of capitalism it's just like the biggest american spectacle that there possibly could be isn't it like people dress up to go as though it's any it's about sport yeah um you had like all the famous faces there people probably dress up hayley bieber did you see she debuted her new chocolate syrup oh my god and people are

like you mean brown you mean brunette wait stop let me find a picture i think it was vogue tweeted this not even that different from her hair before it was just slightly brown and they were like chocolate honey syrup hair and you go calling everything like sugar cream donut lips sugar plum fairy makeup yeah everything is like glazed or saccharine sweet and blake lively was dressed like a cheerleader she was dressed like a conti sue sylvester i saw on the internet it's like it's so american and i'm not being disparaging towards americans as a whole but i might be concept i do think it's so saccharine it's so patriotic it's so vulgar in its display of wealth and like everything costs like tickets cost between 909 000 pounds and i'm that's not even the boxes which costs like a million or something like for one of the swedes it's bonkers it is bonkers i think bonkers is a really good word to use one

of my favorite on like the flip side of things is watching i'm sure they're rage baiting but the videos of it's usually women being like i I'm going to make this stupid roll of snacks for my husband. I've seen that. And they have like a tub the size of a car. And they fill it with like 85 kilos of nachos. And then pour in like ketchup. And then like, everything is from Costco basically. And everything is the size of a bathtub.

And they're just pouring it into this massive container. Then they like stir it with like a broomstick. And they're like, yummy, perfect. And I actually don't know if it's real. Because it's like, it with like a broomstick and they're like yummy perfect and i i actually don't know if it's real because it's like it is believable i can't imagine there's a man like homer simpson inviting like 40 friends around his house sorry i'm completely creating fleet caricatures of oh they don't mind but we love you our american listeners we do know you are our second biggest listenership we don't mean you we don't we do mean you yeah i think that must be rage big so i watch these as well and i'm like this is made to make me angry and sick and a bit

hungry what's our equivalent like to the super bowl the queen's funeral the queen's any oh the q the q the q the q the snooker it actually was it's the most patriarchal we've ever been it's a massive display of wealth everyone was dressed up in silly outfits. Morning. Hey, I reject you saying we, unless you're talking French, not me. Oh, speaking of talking French, I actually went to Paris on the funeral song,

so I don't want to be among the crowds. Anything that brings us together is misery, whereas the Americans throw a pigskin around. Do you think we're too bitchy and cross? Do you think we'd be happier if we were more... Oh, us three. Us three and Brits. We wouldn't know how.

Is it nice that they're so happy? What's your personal Super Bowl? So mine is definitely each Real Housewives reunion right at the end. That's my Super Bowl. I would say, and it might be surprising coming from me, but I really like the Met Gala. I love the gowns because there's so many interesting dresses. I do love, I do love the Met Gala.

That is really good. I also do like the darts when it comes on I don't like don't get that excited about it but I really enjoy darts I actually can't think of anything

that I look forward to that much misery bones over here I definitely do I love looking at the dresses at the Met Gala yeah I do

I just like anything where celebrities but I don't have a you know how it's a saying it's like that's my Superbowl or whatever like football I don't have an event

I'm not really into sports a book a single book is my super war and peace such pick me behavior i love books and i love that um i don't know i just don't think it's in my cultural dna to get that exuberant even though i'm really excited something i'm like whatever so true i'm the same i feel like that's british culture now i feel like we're all quite dead inside sorry the next big state funeral will be the next time we put on a spread i think so we announced last week the book that we are going to be reading together which is penance by eliza clark and obviously we have to read it so have we started have we even got the book in our possession i am five pages deep. So obviously racing through the book.

Such a hero. Yeah, really enjoying it, actually. I do not even know my copy yet. I haven't got my copy yet, but I'm getting on it. Girls, the dawn's approaching. I think I'm going to spend this weekend reading. I've got like one work thing and then I'm going to sit on my little bony behind and I'm going to read probably the whole thing.

So yeah, who's going to be laughing then? So yes, reminder for you guys at home we're going to be talking about this on the 8th of March Friday the 8th so read along with us and we're going to get really stuck into it then

but yeah get a copy because it's not that long away or you can also if you don't read it on time the episode will be there for you forever so you can always go back no I think

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