Everything Is Content - Everything In Conversation: Coachella

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

Happy hump day! Grab a brew, connect your headphones, and get ready to chat.This week we're heading (conversationally) to California to discuss weekend one of Coachella! We share all of our thoughts- and yours!- about whether America's biggest festival is still a vibe (if it ever was), how it stacks up against Glasto, whether the outfits were outfitting, what acts looked unmissable and what we think is wrong with the luxury festival market. Thank you so much to everyone who sent in their takes, we looooove being in conversation with you. We would also looooove if you'd leave us a glowing review and 5 star rating on this podcast player (and any others that spring to mind) and this helps others to find the podcast so that we can keep making it. See you Friday for our main episode!O, R, B x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So the American Music Festival Coachella kicked off over this past weekend with appearances from Lady Gaga, Charli XCX, Sam Fender, Weezer, Green Day, T-Pain and Bernie Sanders. Senator and former presidential candidate who took to the stage before Claro, Claro? I'm too old to know. I'm gonna say Claro, Clara. Before Clara is set with some very cutting words about President Trump and fears for democracy, Sanders who is 83 said to the gathered crowd quote, the future of what happens to America is dependent on your generation. We need you to stand up to fight for justice, to fight for economic justice, social justice and racial justice. Now you can turn away and ignore what goes on but if you do that you do it on your own peril.

The crowd cheered him though they did boo when he mentioned Trump, to which Bernie Sanders replied, I agree. The festival, which takes place in India, California at the Empire Polo Club, has also been hit by claims of disorganization and mismanagement this year, with some attendees comparing it to the infamous fire festival of 2017, as people reportedly were left to wait in up to 12 hour queues in their car during incredibly high temperatures. Cars running out of petrol or gas,

people were rationing water and peeing in cups because there were no bathrooms and tempers were flowering. One TikTok user logged on to say, people have literally been using the bathroom behind bushes like animals, and they paid over $600 to be here. Now, Coachella is a two weekend weekend festival so the artists that performed this weekend will perform again this coming Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And I for one am practically peeing in a bush

with excitement to see hopefully even more chaos for weekend two. And so to celebrate we asked you all at home for your hottest Coachella takes, your opinions on the performances, the festival itself, the outfits, the celebrity festival goers and whether you dream of attending or if it's a coach hell no from you. So first things first, Anoni Emry-Chirra, are you dying to go or not one for the bucket list? Years ago, I think probably in like the Vanessa Hudgens era when she used to be the queen of Coachella and she used to wear fringe and boho chic. I think I did want to go. But in 2019, a friend of the podcast and my friend from school, Olivia Pettah went and she actually sent me a message replying and I remembered that this is where my disdain started.

So she said, basically it's fucking weird. Like if Instagram was a festival, I don't know if it's still like this, but when I went, you could only drink your drinks in this specific area where you bought them. You couldn't just walk around with a beer, for example. We have VIP, which was an enormous section that has even more VVIP bits just for celebs. So it wasn't really VIP at all. Just a more expensive ticket that lets you into different areas. Bars were mega overpriced. You basically can't move without spending $20. Everyone was dressed terribly. Kate Moore's Cool Girl Festival fashion, this is not. It also takes ages to get there because traffic is so bad. Nobody counts because it's boiling in desert heat.

The worst thing about it is the front of the main stage was split into two. On the right, normal people in better commerce. On the left, mega VIPs. Totally ruined the whole vibe as the festival was felt so governed by who was the most famous and rich. Not Eaglaia Lutern at all. Glastonbury was a million times better.

Yeah, everything that was said in that message, I'm so glad that she confirmed that because that's exactly what I imagined was the case. And no, I'm not bothered about Coachella. I feel like I also had a similar thing maybe a few years ago, where I really thought that it could be quite cool. The lineups always seem to be amazing. Like Rihanna was always headlining. I always feel like they had like all the pop girlies. They were like really just like a fun lineup. But I feel like in the last few years, it's just become so apparent.

There's some kind of depressing bleakness to this whole thing. And I think it's just all the reports of people not dancing, having a good time, just being like a photo op. Just the whole thing seems really depressing. So no, is a coach hell, hell the whole thing seems really depressing. So no, is a coach hell no? I don't know, whatever you said. Hell no. You absolutely nailed it. Oh my God. When you read that message Anonia, and it was like

the different VIP areas, the different echelons, it reminded me of an episode of Parks and Rec, our beloved comfort TV show, where they're throwing a party, I think, at Entertainment 420. So this is Tom and his absolutely nuts business partner. And they've got like different VIP areas, and then there's like, that's the most exclusive VIP area. No one's allowed in there, not even us. And it just makes me think of that. Like, if you get one wristband,

then you then like, but I need this wristband. I'm just constantly on the hunt for like the next party, the next VIP, the next backstage. I find that so baffling about the drinking. I think that is still a thing, which I mean, it's perfectly fine. I don't think Americans are that. They're probably all California sober, so they're just happy with their weed gumos and just chilling out. But there would be a riot if you had drinking pens in a UK festival. I mean, we obviously all grew up going to... I mean, I grew up going to Reading and Leeds and you'd have alcohol flying overhead, but also piss flying overhead. And I think when you're raised on that, you get a fondness for the kind of

grubby side of festivals that I think if I went here, they would immediately sense that I wasn't meant to be there and I'd be hunted out. And I think I would, it would feel very uncanny to me. I think I'd find it very strange. I think, yeah, I think if it spawned in like Herefordshire or someone of I, and I could go for 12B, I would, I'm so curious about what the experience is. It's so different to what we have over here. And also I love how people are comparing it to Glastonbury and in our DMs, which we'll get to, everyone was like pitting these two very different queens against each other. And it is like,

one is in, what did I say, the Indio Valley, like the Colorado desert. The other is a literal Pilton. It's so funny that people are like, and Glastonbury wins every time. It kind of makes me a bit patriotic. We actually had a message from Phoebe that said celebs attend Coachella because they're paid to celebs attend Glastonbury because they want to. And I do think that that is also part of Glastonbury's charm. Or actually I do, I would say that's changing, especially we're going to get on to kind of onto the influencer cohort that now attend these festivals. But I definitely would say that Glastonbury is getting commodified to the extent that Coachella is. But I think the coolness about Glastonbury used to be,

you could easily turn around and see Kate Moss walking past in hot pants and Hunter Wellies and then turn around and see someone else in a K-hole. And that was just sort of the blend, the mixture of the vibe, whereas you'd never get that at Coachella. But yeah, it is funny. Everyone has those two together. And I do agree with you, Rachel, I have to say like the artists look, like the actual musicians that are playing on the performances always look sick.

But weirdly actually on Instagram, you very rarely see that, you mostly just see people's outfits. Can I reference a hilarious point from a London Standard article about Coachella? I didn't realise this but they quoted a singer Lauren Gray from 2023 who uncovered the fact that a lot of influencers are just fake attending Coachella so they don't even go to the festival, they just

rent Airbnbs and shoot content in the desert then leave. Which I had no idea about but so apparent now because you're right loads of the content I see online isn't necessarily even inside a festival. Well, I think there's also Revolve Festival, which is that clothing brand, where I think that is on site, but it's also nearby. And they have, you go and pick out your wardrobe, I think they have drinks and stuff.

And I do think that some, I might be getting this slightly wrong, but I'm fairly certain that they are put up nearby. And I do think a lot of them actually just don't even really go into the festival. They just sort of hang out with each other and get pictures and wear cute outfits. Well, it's the events. And that's what I'm a bit confused about because I did see, I saw Kendall Jenner and I was like, what she dresses like she was going to some sort of tea party. I was like, what is she wearing at the festival? But she wasn't. She was at a Coachella event for her own tequila brand,

which I would like to try by the way. I was like, what is the dress code for this? And it was 1970s auto camp soiree. And I just thought that is just very strange. And I think she looked like she was at an Italian wedding, but then yeah, so there's the event of Coachella, then there's so many adjacent events. Like it's kind of, it does feel like a networking thing. It does almost feel like it's quite confusing. You've got to get invited to the right parties. It's like, is Coachella not the party? We had a message from Amy that said, I think influencer culture and social media has completely ruined the festival. My For You page has been showing the rich side versus the poor side of Coachella and the poor is literally just a normal festival experience. I also think

Brown's paying for wealthy influencers to go whilst hosting lavish events around the festival, like you mentioned, feels more gross than ever given the current economic climate. It's lost its authenticity which is a pity as the acts and production put into the performances is incredible but the music doesn't even seem to be what it's about anymore. Also wanted to add that there's an article showing that 60% of people who attended used buy now pay later schemes. I think more than ever this year you can see a clear wealth divide which feels so wrong. And I think that is really interesting. I mean, it is so sad we talk about this so much, but like about accessibility of the arts. Me and Livy were talking about going to see the years, this play, and she actually had discount and

we were like, great, let's go. And then she's like, I'm so sorry, I can't actually afford to go. The discounted ticket is 85 pounds. And I was like, that is nuts for a play. So I think that we're living in this really sad world where I think like festivals and art used to be a place where you would just rock up, let loose, listen to music. And on the one hand, I think it's so drummed up for social media, people like consuming it that way, but it must just be such a letdown when you're there. On the topic of the 60% paying, doing a buy now, pay later scheme, which does mean if true, that's like most of the festival goers, I did look that up. And at first I was quite

surprised. So I read on Billboard, yes, that's true, Coachella has its own payment system. So do a lot of American festivals actually. Said Lollapalooza, Rolling Loud, Electric Daisy Carnival, which sounds fake as hell but is real, all have this payment system. And I was like, that is shocking. And then I thought, actually, I guess Glastonbury is the same because it's such a big chunk of change. Glastonbury, you get your ticket for 50 quid down payment, you have months to save and then have to pay it off. And I think that just, it's astronomical, these costs that you get your Coachella wristband, you get your camping, you obviously most people have to travel miles and miles to get there. I mean, a lot of people do Airbnbs, which must be like through the roof, shuttles from here

to there, food, drink, outfits, obviously that is important to do. It's a lot of doll hairs by the end of it. And I was thinking like, who has that amount of money sitting around safe? And it just goes to show like we are all really stretched and these are such a luxury. Like 3000 pounds I've been seeing as a figure people were spending and that's people camping. That is the thing I'm most fascinated about, the economics of it. And we got a message from Holly who said, who called it influencer Olympics. And she says, from what I've heard, this is not an exaggeration. It seems like capitalism on steroids with everything from the toilets

to the wristbands sponsored by something. $40 for a slice of pizza, $80 for a tequila soda and designated pants for eating and drinking. Apparently it's completely segregated between influences, celebs and normies, which echoes, I guess, what we were saying. And I have been seeing rich Coachella or poor Coachella and the difference is really stark.

And I think maybe that is just not as clear at somewhere like Glastonbury where yeah, there's like Shangri-La, but that's off out of there. Like in there, in the area, you don't really notice so much. Everyone is just kind of mucking in together, but yeah, multiple people pointed out in our DMs. And I just think it's quite alarming.

Yeah, that feeling that you could be at the same festival, but you're having a completely different experience to people with a huge amount of wealth or influence is so gross. I feel like last time I went to Glastonbury which was either two years ago or three years ago, I can't remember now, it was my first time and I kind of was starting to feel that a little bit because I knew people who were staying in hospitality because they were going with a brand or they were covering it for a newspaper or magazine or whatever and their experience of camping was so nice. They had showers, they had, I think, like almost like a glass house bar and restaurant in their campsite and all these different things. And

that was being fed back to me constantly. And I was just, I was just having like, you know, like the normal experience camping one shower in the whole thing, which was lucky as hell. And I just kept getting fed back this experience and also knowing I knew people who'd like left early and then gone back to Soho farm because they were just like done with it and they were they were coming to Glastonbury with a label so I was getting all of these tidbits fed back to me as I was camping and I was like it's so annoying just hearing that people can do this in like a really lovely way and I hate knowing that so many people are just having like a lux experience in this place because my understanding was the best thing about this is

the complete normalization of whoever you are, you're all having the same experience and that's so nice. I think also the festival tickets are expensive, but if you got to see everyone on that Glastonbury lineup, it is well worth the money because you would never be able to go to that many individual concerts for that price. I think my issue was when I went to Glastonbury this year is you couldn't, there's no way, like I really want to see the streets

and I want to see Coldplay, I want to see someone else, but because of the way the crowds are operating, you basically had to be at whatever stage you wanted to see like an hour before. So actually I didn't really get to see it anyway near as many artists as I would have loved to have seen. And it's interesting because on the camping, I did have some friends who were glamping. I didn't know anyone that was doing the sort of mega, like the kind of the van things, which I think are more on site, but a lot of the glamping is actually like an hour away. So one night when one of my friends and I'd stayed out really late, she basically couldn't get back. So I think there is something to be said for

you are better off camping within the festival as long as you have like a proper tent and proper stuff. I do think that is always going to be your best experience. And I think it does take you out of the festival when you're glamping, literally geographically and also then I think it's quite hard to swap between being in a luxe camper van where you've got showers and nice things to then going in with the riff raff. Whereas once you're already in and amongst it, bit smelly, you're acclimatized and you're ready to go. I've got to ask, talking camping, have you seen some of these Coachella camping setups? I've been watching camp tours. I mean, some of them are just vast and it's everyone's friends and it looks like the funnest

thing ever if you're 21 at college or whatever. Some of them are so performative. I saw a guy with a pop-on and a rug and furniture. He was like, I'm going for a mid-century vibe. It's all for vlogs and of course, me Muggins over here was watching. I was lapping it up because they were so annoyed. I was like, this is ridiculous. But I was watching it. It was all for content and I will send some that I find through to you both. It is ridiculous because it looks like cozy, comfy setup, but are you not at a music festival? Should you not be out there moshing about having the time of your life? You are doing a room tour, like you're on architectural digest. I have been finding it one of the more baffling elements

because they all have so much stuff. It's genuinely a proper house. I'm sorry. I think because I haven't seen it, all I can feel is just that that feels so iconic to me. I'm like. Man has a rug, I mean, okay, you're probably right, it's iconic. That's so funny. So I also wanted to ask, you mentioned the fact

that there were 12 hour queues to get in. And also I saw something about how like the loos were completely not functional on the first day. And you mentioned that people were literally like shitting pissing in bushes. Awful, awful stuff. What is happening? How can something as seemingly seamless as Coachella that's been on for years and years and years be getting to this point? Do you think it's going the same way that you were mentioning and only with the crowd situation where maybe they've oversold tickets, it's a case of money, money, money, or maybe in the case of Glastonbury because of COVID,

they had some years where maybe, you know, ticket sales weren't amazing. So they've had to recoup that, or I guess the fact that tariffs and the failing economy at the moment, cost is put over experience in every scenario. I was just looking it up and it says that it's nearly 650,000 people across two weekends in April.

So it's a hell of a lot of people and it's the largest music festival in the US. So I guess that is just by virtue of that many numbers, you're going to have, I'm sure there were probably people that again, to bring up its British sister. I'm sure there was people that queued for 12 hours to get into Glastonbury, probably some people doing wheeze and bushes. Maybe it's over reported because of the fact that we can't. I have to say the weeing and the pooing in the wild, I don't find it. I know it's great. You definitely want to be able to have a toilet. But again, I'm like, that is a bit of a festival experience. I did a couple of wheeze with my friends huddled around

me when I couldn't get out of the massive crowds. Not a poo though. No, but I could barely do that in the toilet. I got such bad state. I just abstained for most part. I couldn't do it. I was too scared. The toilet doors are so high up at Glastonbury. It's like you can literally, I could just see also because the door is literally like the width of your, just your torso. So you can see all these tall men like standing above and everyone's feet below. I just, I could barely even pee to be honest. I haven't been in two years and I just smelt the smell. It came roaring back to me across time.

I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I had a full visceral reaction, which I do think, I mean, we did have messages from quite a few people being like Americans would not survive glass dough, eat them alive. And sometimes I do think that's true. Although I did hear about the pissing and shitting in the queues that the police were coming,

which is again, so American. Like what do these people, the organizers expect people to do? You can't arrest someone for having a shit in a bush. Bloody free country. Can I just read my favorite message we got was from Ian which says, going to a music festival in April is like being a thorn and being told it's time to gallop. Too early in the year. I love Ian. Never change.

Ian, that just can't, do you know what? Just cancel it. It's too early in the year. Oh my God, I'm obsessed. Also, have you noticed, and this is something we got a message about too, so I'll read the message out after, but I keep seeing magazines, I think it was Diet Prada, maybe Grazia as well, and a few others. Everyone seems to be focused on the nostalgia element of Coachella this year, rather than what's happening in real time. And I think that's a big signal of how people are feeling about it. I think people have been posting pictures of King Kylie when she had her blue hair back in the day from maybe six-ish years ago. And as you said, Queen of Coachella, Miss Vanessa Hudgens herself with all the fringe. And it really feels like people are hit on the fact that it doesn't feel like what it used to back in the day and it really feels like people are hit on the fact that it doesn't feel like what it used to be back in the day and we really miss the old Coachella.

Vivian said, Kylie Jenner posted a throwback of her at Coachella as a teenager in a white tee, jean shorts and combat boots. That era of Coachella looks so much fun than the overproduced, having to serve fit after fit vibe it is now. Again, like that revolt, I've seen so many brands. The other thing that's really sad is like festival fashion, and we spoke about this when we did the glass and we used to very much be kind of leaning into that fun stuff you wouldn't normally wear. And now you have brands like White Fox Boutique and Pretty Lavish or whatever they're called sponsoring influencers to go and wear

throwaway fashion. And it's just, I think that's a real shame and just such a signify of where we're at right now. I've also just realized that we have not spoken about the music at all and I just wanted to ask you because we haven't had messages about this, but have you seen Charli XCX's set which I thought was amazing, but you cannot hear anyone that she brings out, you cannot hear Billie Eilish, you cannot hear Lorde. I don't know if their mics weren't working, but when I read about this, Charli XCX was singing, sing speaking, whatever it is that she does. I love it but you know Lorde was on and she does walk like a bitch as well. Have you seen the videos? Have you not seen them? I've seen some. I've heard I've heard rumors of the sound not being very good but I have to confess I've not watched the entire thing.

Oh okay good. What are people saying? Because I was just seeing people posting them being like oh my god this is amazing. I was like either I'm old or that microphone is not working but I hadn't actually seen anyone. That would make me really cross. No, I have seen a few news articles talking about the sound, but I haven't seen that performance specifically. I've just seen clips of Alex Consani and Gabri at Dancing to the Apple dance as Charlie's performing.

I've just seen that on repeat soundlessly, which proves that I just, yeah, I haven't engaged with the music at all. Maybe they turned up the volume to the pen for the gorgeous people, the rich people. I did see actually some dramas kicking off on the timeline today because Charlie XAX wore a sash that said Miss should have been a headliner, like a pageant sash. And so she performed the same day as Green Day and people going, one Green Day are more, you know, they're so established, they're very anti-establishment.

They are still much more popular than you, despite people are really turning on her, kind of suggesting that she is getting too big for her boots. I thought it was obviously a bit of fun. She's there having the shine of her life, wearing this sash, but I've seen a lot of quite salty comments about it. Well, I guess I think they're both worthy headliners. I think the fact that she brought out Billie Eilish and Lorde and everyone that kind of contributed to that album came out.

And she is, I guess, the artist of the year. I think she could have been a headliner, but I definitely think she's so kind of tongue in cheek. She wouldn't be wearing that if she was like genuinely making a pitch for it, you know, which I think is funny. But her set did actually look, I have to say, really sick. Lady Gaga looked amazing. There was also people being a bit salty about Benson Boone because they were like, he's got one song, why is he there? So there has been a lot of saltiness, but apparently T-Pain was unbelievable. Did you see Bones and Boone brought out Brian May? Bones and Boone.

Bones and Burner. Oh no, how do you say his name? Bones and Boone. Bones and Hedges Boone. Okay, I think I've revealed that I have no idea who this person is. name? Benson Boone. Benson and Hedges Boone. Okay, I think I've revealed that I have no idea who this person is. Bonson Boone. Okay, respectfully to the man you mentioned,

I'm so sorry. He brought out Brian May, and apparently those people were saying, and there was a TikTok about this, that the crowd just had no idea who Brian May was. I mean, even then, I know who Brian May is, but I was like, what from that car show, Jeremy Clarkson? And then I remembered, okay, literal Queen.

Don't they look quite similar, Brian May and Brian May? Yeah, very good point. Yeah. No, James May and Brian May. James May, because I actually do get those two mixed up, I have to say, but I did know it was Brian May from Queen in this. It'd be interesting to know what the demographic is. I mean, there was also some of the most ridiculous commentary,

like videos of Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet entering the festival and everyone's like, oh my God, she's come to the festival on the day of Travis's performance, she's stalking him. Oh God. No, she's just hot and young and rich. It's just so stupid. It's like celebrities are always gonna be

in the same place as each other because they're rich and famous. You can't accuse them of stalking each other. Especially at Coachella, the one place where everyone goes. Yeah, Forking Kitchen. Likely place for him to be. We haven't really talked about the fashion, but again, I don't actually know what anyone wore off stage. I feel like it used to be maybe more of Met Gala in the desert, whereas I haven't actually seen... I've seen Julia Fox's outfit, which she was kind of wearing like little like tights and cool sunglasses and little rumpelstiltskin boots.

And it looked like she had a landing strip on her. Oh yeah. Vahina. She's a legend. There was a lot of throwback nostalgia, like you said, Ritera. There was a lot of sort of... Is it Brodery ongolais, that type of top that's got like the little... Yeah, beautifully said.

Thank you. Because that was just making me think of like whatever that custard's called, crème anglaise. But yeah, lots of suede, lots of fringe. I think people are really trying to claw back to its roots, but I actually just think it's gone too far. We had a really good message from Anand, which said, Coachella is a perfect example of the US commodifying all art. It flattens any meaning into insta moments. It's not even about the quality of the musical act or experience. It's all for the gram. As AI increased in power, expect sets by long dead artists as holograms. It's a hyper capitalist nightmare wrapped in native american iconography lulu lemon spirituality hashtag no chela. that being said just quickly i can't remember if you said this on the podcast

before but you cannot have holograms of artists who are dead unless they pre-consented which is why abba famously are doing so well but like elton john probably gonna sign up but you couldn't have queen for example because they didn't consent pre-death. That point about Native American iconography is so, so, so, so true and so good because I feel like that has long been essential to the aesthetic around Coachella and obviously has been called out numerous times. So it is interesting. Yeah, it's really interesting to remember that even though it has been this like huge cultural moment, the kind of under tensions and the kind of problematic racial elements to it have been this like huge cultural moment. The kind of under tensions and the kind of problematic racial elements to it have been such a huge part of it as well. Thank you so much for listening

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