Everything Is Content - Everything In Conversation: Harry Potter and The Deathly Rehash

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

Happy Hump Day EICrayons! This week we're diving into the ongoing rehashing of Harry Potter and whether we should all... just give it up. The conversation is based on an article titled 'Harry Potter and the deathly rehash culture', and the upcoming HBO series, audiobooks and fanfics.Thank you for all of your amazing thoughts and comments. Please give us a follow on your podcast player app and a lovely review.Catch you on the Friday episode <3 O,R,B xoxox Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I'm Ruggiero and I'm Anoni, and this is Everything in Conversation. This is your extra helping of content to help get you through the midweek slump. We'd love if you'd give us a follow on Instagram and TikTok at Everything is ContentPod to keep up with conversation topics and have your say in these episodes. And make sure you go follow us on your podcast player app so you never miss an episode. And please, if we could be so bold, do leave us a rating or review wherever you're listed as it truly is the fuel driving this podcast. Rocheon Lannigan wrote a piece for The Observer last week titled Harry Potter and the Deathly Rehash

Culture. She starts with, there are some things in life that never truly leave us. relics of an earlier time thinks we might want to move on from but for one reason or another can't seem to manage to lock away in a drawer and leave to rot. Like memories or scars or the wizarding world of

Harry Potter. She goes on to make the point that despite the first book being written nearly three decades ago, we still hold onto the franchise in her mind as a way to quote, desperately recapture some sort of pre-millennial youth and optimism against all evidence to the contrary. She talks about being

a former child superfan but struggling now to not have her eyes roll back so far in the back of her head when she sees something new about the franchise. For example, despite the fact that there is a very successful audiobook series, famously voiced by Stephen Fry, some of Britain's biggest actors have joined a release for a new version titled Harry Potter the Full Cast Audio Editions. So stars like Matthew McFadden is playing Lord Voldemort, Kit Harrington as Professor Lockhart, Kira Knightley is Professor Umbridge and Simon Pegg as Arthur Weasley. The first installment is due out this November with the last book, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, released in May

the following year. Then of course, I mean, we've spoken about this before, there's the HBO series, there is the Watford Studio Tours, which I have been to, the Cursed Child Play, and then there's a fan fiction alchemised, which began as manacled, which imagines Hermione and Droko in a BDSM relationship, which is now being adapted for screen in a seven-figure deal. She asks, who is this all for? And she argues that the kids of today have already moved the fuck on and have other shit to care about. She ends by talking about the medical approach to nostalgia when it was first discovered. Quote, Hofer treated his nostalgics as patients, making notes on their declining well-being and growing obsession with the past. Bit much? Sure. But also maybe he was right.

So much of our present culture, particularly in the UK, is a rehash of past successes. The touring bands are from the 1990s, the fashion cyclical, the politics stuck in the 1980s. Is it anyone that in that environment, some people refuse to let Harry Potter go. Unless we call time now, we're going to be forced to endure Harry Potter spin-off content into perpetuity. A generation ago, Harry Potter was the boy who lived. It's time to let him die. It was such a spicy finale to this piece, and I am desperate to know, what did you guys think? Were you particularly hurt by the piece? Did you agree with it? Did you think that this was targeting, shall we say, a Harry Potter adult? What's your take?

I've never been a Harry Potter adult, but I was a Harry Potter child, and I was, I'm a sympathiser. I understand the appeal. I understand like the fuzzy, warm feelings that millennials, fellow millennials, do get. I didn't feel attacked. I was hoping that no one would feel attacked,

but reading our DMs, I think a few people were like, hey, hang on, this is a little bit too far. I just thought it was a really funny piece. I thought it was straight to the point. It didn't prevaricate. was just like made Harry Potter into this symbol of what I actually think it is, which is Britain's obsession with past successes, however faint and however long ago. And at a time when this country is descending into like doom and despair, and that is a

problem, I think, refusing to give up on Harry Potter or refusing to give up on any of our obsession with really 30, 40 years ago when things maybe were. hopeful just risks us falling further into this trap of nostalgia and stagnation and I feel sad for anyone catching any strays here but I thought the piece if zippy and zingy and a bit spicy was quite fair actually personally I agree I didn't find it that attacking I think more than anything what it highlighted was this compulsion towards creating like a commercial giant from something that people do hold very dear. I have to be honest, I was head of the HPFC at school. I think I'm speaking about this, Harry Potter fan club. There were two of us in it initially, but I was the head of it.

And I was a super fan with my best friend Bethan. I used to dress up as Luna Lovegood. She would dress up as Bella Sitz for Strange despite her being Ginger. She was obviously Weasley, but she wanted to be Belitrix. Anyway, I digress. I normally at this time of year, haven't done this recently, but I did used to would around now start watching one Harry Potter film every weekend to make me feel autumnal. I really do get that fuzzy feeling that you spoke about Beth. It's probably one of the few things that really does feel like a safe space. But that being said, I have got to the point where I do find it very hard to separate the art from the artist, most notably because of the recent Supreme Court ruling when we found out that actually J.K. Rowling's very deep pockets

do do more than just line her own black moldy house. They actually do create chaos in other areas. She genuinely has lobbying power within governments. So I have now got to the point where that has really ruined. Something that I loved as a child. And last week we spoke about, in our Everything in Conversation episode, we spoke about kind of the importance of enjoying high culture and that being met with the argument of let people enjoy things.

I do kind of still stand by the let people enjoy Harry Potter in a way because I think what it does come for is not just Harry Potter, but sort of like Comic-Con fans and adults who perhaps really enjoy being part of fantasy worlds who continue that to like a stand level. And I do think that is like a subset, a subsection of culture, which I think we do have to let people enjoy because I think that is an important and crucial part of some people's livelihood and enjoyment. Like they love going to see whatever fan it is, whether it's Harry Potter, whether it's Star Wars, whether it's, I don't actually know any of the others.

They enjoy that the same way that people enjoy going to see Taylor Swift. And I think it is a bit much to be like, you can't. enjoy this. The bit that I took issue which I think is what she really gets to at the heart of in the piece is just this endless flogging of something which I think already is very special to people. It's this constant idea of renewal because I don't think that does benefit the fans. I don't think the fans need all of that. I think that we are, we've got our Stephen Frye audiobooks, we've got the original films. If we really need to as millennials, we can revisit those. I just don't love how much take a rolling profits of this franchise, which I still, if I hear that

the music, that opening music, it does do something to me, but I don't need a million new iterations. What about you, Ritura? Yeah, I agree with you. I personally didn't find the piece too harm-inducing, for me at least. I was surprised by a few of the comments that we got, and I kind of reflecting on it, I do get it. I think it's one of those things for a lot of people that is such a cherished, pure part of their childhood. It's an easy way to revisit this feeling of safety and I think understanding that I can get if somebody came after my version of that that would feel prickly and that would feel that would hurt but I think because of exactly what you said and only I think we've had a year of talking about jk rowling's impact on the

world and impact on people's livelihoods and their liberties and their ability to just exist I think for me it's been a very quick divorce of being able to enjoy harry potter in any kind of meaningful way and I used to really, really love these books. I used to really love these films. It used to mean a lot to me. It used to be a big thing. So I think I've just privately kind of exercised myself of all of that. And that's not to be like, oh, look at me.

I've been able to do that. It's just, we're talking about this topic. I feel like that's some context. And I do think her points about trying to recapture this part of our youth, this part of culture that was really enjoyable. And maybe because we were children, we were kind of safe from the political landscape at the time, because the political landscape wasn't perfect either.

Don't get me wrong. It's not like Harry Potter was coming out and, you know, homophobia didn't exist. That was far from the truth. But I think it's the fact that we were children. And it's like we've said with many, many things that are becoming popular right now, it's the, you know, girlification of everything. It's the rise of Labibu adults. It's all of this stuff.

It's a way to capture this feeling of childhood when everything feels too difficult, I think, to just comprehend and to deal with. It's this desire to slightly mentally regress to just enjoy yourself and cushion, which is not a bad thing. But I can't say that what she said in the piece was wrong, in my opinion. Well, on the subject of, well, really what you said, we got a message from Martha that read, quote, as a former Harry Potter fan, like major loser fan and overall nerd, I don't see a problem with loving a piece of media that brings joy, and especially one that's about resisting those who seek to sow division and mindless hatred.

In light of JKR's vile behaviour and actions, and the fact she still actively benefits financially from this IP, it gives me the ick capitals, that people can't let this go and find a disqualify. different book to read, have an ounce of self-control and stop supporting someone who has proven to be financially supporting causes that actively harm people, which is what we're saying, I think, but just with no nonsense. And I do think if so many Harry Potter fans or anyone considering, especially watching the upcoming HBO show, were to sit and consider it properly, and I mean people who already know themselves to be on the side of trans people, want to be on the side of trans people effectively and support them being left alone and

essentially their right not eroded and then being forced from public life they probably would come to the same conclusion and be like yeah fuck what am we doing what are we thinking of but we're so primed i think to keep up to date of course we're going to watch the big show and i think so many people are considering already a foregone conclusion that they will watch this but almost as we've discussed in this week's bonus our attention is our power especially when it comes to you know the media that we're consuming and withholding it does say something about what we believe i've already seen some people and of course we condemn this wholeheartedly saying that they will watch it um illegally they will pirate it i'm saying nothing about that but it is a very interesting i think some people are suspending their

own activism own beliefs to be like well it's just this it's just media this is going in her big yacht fund this is going we know where her money goes as you said and only it almost feels like the piece didn't go actually too hard on that friction between JK Rowling and what she's created. It really was about British nostalgia, but it's just such a worthy point. And a few people pointed out, we can't have this discussion.

And we never really were going to without discussing the JK Rowling of it all. And yeah, I mean, she and I have been divorced for some time. And I've never been happy and I've never been sure of anything. But anyone who is on the fence, I would just say just sit with it because I really just think the amount of discomfort I think we'll all feel in years to come for even being

slightly confused about where we stood and where we put our money and our time I think we'd feel really shitty for standing 10 toes behind this or even just like four toes. I think what's quite interesting about the series is when it was first announced most people were really

ante it and kind of really ringing their fists and being like this can't happen and then what happened was quite a lot of very famous well respected actors signed on to the project which I think kind of muddied the water bit for fans because you kind of think oh if my fav is going to be in it and I guess this isn't an issue I feel like it was almost more of an issue until it got further into the production process and then perhaps certain names and faces that you would expect to perhaps distance themselves from jk rolling from this franchise from anything that's going to further the anti-trans agenda

which is ever growing in this country and globally when they were like yeah I'm going to do this part I think that's, it creates space for people to go, well, this must be fine and it makes it a little bit easier to ignore. And we had a message from James that said, we're now in a place where we judge people for liking what they like. It's pathetic. If people still like Harry Potter, so what? Get you. But I also think, and this goes back again to the cultural snobbery thing, but we're suffering with an Americanisation of the UK. And I think, for instance, an example being sort of Disney adults. I don't think that existed as much in the UK as it did in the US.

Obviously, if we don't have Disneyland, but a lot of this really sort of like high commercial, lots of merch, buying into quite childlike fantasy and not feeling embarrassed about it. That was quite an American import that we weren't necessarily comfortable with. I don't think just because we are a bit more kind of like stoic and maybe a bit more droll with our humour

and that's very earnest and just a bit infantilising but I think that we're ever more comfortably kind of sliding into the cushioned shoes of the Americanisation of the world and so I think it's less about enjoying I think where people are getting hurt and I absolutely feel nostalgic for the films

I absolutely understand people's enjoyment of Harry Potter but I do think that it's just it feels a bit odd to us in the UK perhaps to embrace so fully a very big outward loving of something that is inherently made for children. I understand like comfort watching certain films when you're going through a breakup or going through something difficult or enjoying them

in the privacy of your own home. Maybe this is my own sort of like judgment seeping out rather than a really fully formed idea. But I also do worry that it's like are we allowing capitalist endeavours to prey on our need for comfort and nostalgia? And we're all going open arms into the world of just buying random fake ones and theme parks and, all of those shops which must be fronts i'm sorry there's so many of them around tottencourt road i don't know how they work and it's like is that bringing us comfort or are we just spending money on something we don't need to spend money on perhaps that money could go into therapy you know that's a hilarious way to end maybe we should foot the bill of therapy rather than getting laboos right now

it is interesting isn't it it just feel like the big wigs have understood that we all just want feel like little babies cushioned by just fun kind things and it's working and we will spend the money and we will buy the dolls we will buy the the like children's films reboots we will buy the i don't know i can't think of any more things but i do get what you're saying it feels sad that we are so predictable in that way and it feels sad that somewhere all of the wrong people are profiting from this desire to not really look at what's happening in the world or to feel what's happening and going on right now i have to read this comment because it really made me laugh. Natasha wrote in and said, I watched Harry Potter for the first time last year and what the hell? It is literally one of the worst things I've ever seen

in my life. Surely only kids generally like this and everyone is just watching it for nostalgia. Not saying this to be controversial, I mean the acting was hilarious, brackets in a bad way. The effects were not the best and the plot had so many parts that didn't even make sense. I think it's really, I think it's just a really funny point to just land on, which is an outside perspective on is this even all worth it you know it's so funny i can even feel myself in that moment being like quite defensive and be like no they were just children it really was quite exciting when we were but actually yeah fair enough i think you do have you've have to already have seen it you have to remember the smell of the popcorn the sort of the excitement of driving to the odion the

already having read the books and waited up for the books and been really excited perhaps to have that experience and i think we should actually interrogate our nostalgia and maybe Natasha is giving us permission to do that and be like what is the quality here I mean I have a lot of love for the books I think they achieved what people say they achieved at the time which was giving kids an excitement about reading forming communities and I mean I do think they were also in in terms of their messaging very strong as you pointed out not perfect I mean he literally ends the series of wizard cop a bit odd as we have as people have

pointed out, J.K. Rowling has a pontchant for naming her characters kind of hilariously predictable things like the Irish character called Seamus, who can forget Cho Chang. I mean, it's become a running joke, but I think broadly speak, it was a book about justice, it was a way in for reading for a lot of people. But actually, I think a lot of my nostalgia is the fact that I was, as we talked about, I was a child, I was, maybe the world was slightly better in that we were however many years away from climate collapse and where we are now. But I was safe because I wasn't paying bills.

I was relatively happy because I was a child. That ruled. I think I could just as easily feel this way about any other totem of that time like fucking Digimon or Turkey Twizzlers, but there's just not the spend behind. There's no Turkey Twisler world, or I would go. There's no Turkey Twisler industrial complex.

I know that doesn't, you know, totally make sense, but you know what I mean? It's like... If you keep something on life support and make it into a million pound, million dollar entity, as has happened with Harry Potter, then your nostalgia as the consumer and as the original fan becomes currency. And I think for a lot of people, the ongoing interest in Harry Potter is not, would not be naturally occurring if not for it being manufactured by like literal teams of very well paid executives and analysts. if you know people making sure that your harry potter nostalgia never dies basically so jk rolling can have another another yacht or whatever she spent some money on that isn't evil i just i think i get frustrated when people talk about like the unique magic of harry potter some of that is there

but also it's the billions of pounds of investment into making sure that your nostalgia is preserved and it kind of feels like in letting it die releasing yourself you actually sort of make a bigger statement about how you don't want to be controlled by the big nostalgia machine what I also it's so funny that message from Natasha because yeah obviously if you're looking at it with critical eyes the acting is quite bad and you know

it's not perfect but it is kind of like the films feel like you're getting into like a pumpkin spice latte bath like they're just so warming and cozy and it is those it's that original I don't really have any interest in a new series because I don't have that attachment to it I have such attachment to those original films and the stories precisely because of the time with which that I got into them. And I did read, I remember reading The Curse Child when it came out, I think I must have been a teenager still.

Was that all we are now 20s, maybe? I did read the book of the play before it became like a play on the West End because I guess it was close enough to, and I did enjoy that. But beyond that, I don't think now as an adult in her 30s, I don't think I would get pleasure from reopening up well. But again, I said, like, my view of it is so tainted now because of everything that's happening. First of all, everything within the Harry Potter books is borrowed from other tropes. Some of them really problematic. Some of them extremely racist and actually like there's so many interesting ways that you can dissect where J.K. Rowling has borrowed all of her wisdom world from in the history of kind of like fantasy fiction. And yes, she brought it together in a super cozy way.

It obviously blew up. It became massive. I think you're also reading it at time when when you are in your like kind of adolescent age, when you're sort of like getting a bit of frustrated with the parents, you're thinking about running away. you're sort of packing a bag with the most random things you can find and thinking about where you can go and the fantasy of, I don't know why every book we read when we were younger, I mean, it's like Annie, it's like the secret, is it the little princess or the secret?

No, it's a little princess where basically, you kind of like leave your family and then you end up with a really rich, in a really rich, amazing environment where they just give you loads of food and everything's kind of like lined with velvet. That's what every dream that you have as a child. So there's a bit of you that's just waiting for that letter

because you're just trying to escape the monotony of childhood, the fact that you're starting to find a parent's a bit annoying and that there's a chance that you might actually be magical and I just wanted to drink butter beer and eat the food like it's the promise of potential riches with absolutely no you haven't done anything to deserve it you just happen to be magical like really that's kind of what it boils down to as a child it's an easy enough escape it's an easy buy-in

and once you're in it's all pretty fun but yeah obviously the films aren't going to hold up but it's like anything I don't about you guys I've gone back to watch so many films that when I was younger I thought were incredible and then you're like what the hell is this? This is absolutely terrible. But the things I got the same level and nostalgia for Harry Potter for

are actually like the old cartoons. I think is it in Rapunzel? Like the spinach in Rapunzel, like the way that food used to look in cartoons when we were younger, I'm obsessed with it. And I feel more sadness about the loss of those kind of cartoons that don't really exist anymore

than I do about, I guess, having to switch off from Harry Potter. So we had a message from Jess saying, I don't disagree with this, but I don't understand how it's any different from Star Wars, which hasn't yet stopped the continuous production of worsening spin-offs, Lord of the Rings, or dare I say sex in the city, surely millennials

claiming to be a carry or a charlotte is no difference from being a helpful buff. It's just one franchise among many that encapsulated a lot more people than the slightly more nerdy ones. The obsession isn't deeper with Comic Con type franchises, which have existed for years. It's just more widespread and therefore non-nerds are privy to it in the wild. Again, I think it's a good point. I think it's what I was trying to say at the top. At the same time, famously Sex and the City is not for children, which I think is one of the points that we are making is that like you know this is designed for children and perhaps sex in

the city actually gives you real world life lessons that Harry Potter doesn't actually are really comforting for women in their 30s about whether it's about the choice to become a mother or you know the importance of sexual liberation or whatever but I think there is a good point about the Star Wars and things but again I come back to the fact that have those franchises created as many avenues for revenue as Harry Potter is especially at a time when supposedly jk rolling is persona non grata if anything she is absolutely all her team or the whole entity around her is amping up the ways in which she can increase her ever-growing fortune i guess that is maybe the difference of the crux of it the whole crux of it i was so desperate i was like

grabbing my microphone i was like beth don't you say that don't you say it first so good yeah i thought the franchise point was really interesting because thinking about something like Star Wars, that is beaten to a pulp. I do believe they're planning another iteration, another generation of Star Wars. Obviously, there's like a few points in regime's piece. One of them being IP and IP just being ubiquitous in this moment in history, especially something like Harry Potter and how we've said it before, it really does lean on our last bonus on snobbery, cultural snobbery. Is it just depressing that the same shit is getting made over and over again and we all lap it up? And then there's the added.

element of everything you said and only about J.K. Rowling profiting from this, this actively causing real world harm from the fact that our nostalgia coins are getting pocketed into her big piggy bank. And then it's just like this question over, should we just get used to letting things go? Is it just kind of bleak that we keep watching, we keep consuming the same things? And on a personal level, if somebody was to come to me and said that they have this book that they love, they read every year, I would never tell them, you need to let that go, babe. That is you know, that's very depressing and bleak. But it's something about just all three of those things. The fact that J.K. Rowling is involved in this. The fact that IP dominates culture right now.

You know, artists are not getting a shoe in in any kind of realm across culture for lack of, I guess, investment in new ideas in the same way that possibly 10, 20 years ago, it's always been difficult, but maybe we would have seen a bit more of that. And I think speaking to this larger picture of, like you said, Beth, right at the beginning, our coins, our attention coins do make a difference. Everything we do has an impact. I do think it is political and I do think it does speak to something and I do think when you watch this, you do know that there will be an impact. There will be domino effect of more investment coins, more kind of literal coins going back into this franchise. What Rochene said about this, this will just go into

perpetuity. I think she's right. I think it is true. I think this is, you know, the second test of if we just pump this HBO show, if we keep gunning for this, will we get a new generation on board, will we get young people involved? And if it works, I think they will just keep going until death. I think that is, I think she's right, she's mapped it out. Also, we got a really amazing message from Jess, and I think it's always helpful for me to hear people's perspective, especially when they have a connection to something like Harry Potter, because it just reminds me that it is a naughty issue, but also I do need to be sensitive. So Jess said, My theory for some of it is that it was only a bit of culture that literally everyone knew, at least pre-social media when we were kids. And so it became a core part of our lives and language. My friends and I, none of whom would describe as Potterheads, just women in our mid-thirties, were often referenced in our conversations Harry Potter, not because we're always thinking about it, because calling someone a Hufflepuff or describing a weird-shaped dog as Dobby has an immediate shared understanding. I also still have a real nostalgic spot for the books and audiobooks. I was grieving the death of a friend a few years ago and the Stephen Frye audiobooks were the only way I could sleep.

I think we have to be okay with retaining a positive memory of something that brought us joy and comfort in childhood while absolutely condemning JKR and her vile views. For me, that's not consuming anything new or anything that's going to make her money, but I'll always cherish what she gave us, even if I felt weird about it. And I really appreciated Jess giving that perspective to us.

I think that is what we are hopefully encouraging people to do while also e.g. cherish things that were important and maintain that part of their personality, their history, the nostalgia, their sense of safety. And I think the magic thing about being like a Harry Potter adult or an adult that likes Harry Potter is that you are an adult and you can separate those two things out and no one will ever take this away from you.

But it is just being a bit discerning and a bit analytical and critical of, I wonder why this one, and just to slightly loop back to the other Jess's message about but why Harry Potter is this is this getting an unfair kind of battering this is just something that kind of quiet kids sometimes really did enjoy and is this fair I think I think it is right to be critical of a show or an entity which I think aside like I know that she has e.g. JK Rowling has built on the original world a little bit but not really in the ways that Star Wars or even Sex and City have like very little.

has come beyond the source material, especially if we're considering the new HBO show, which, as far as I understand it, is like a beat-by-beat remake of the books. I think, without, you know, if you're not building up the world, if you are just finding new ways to sell additional merch and additional experiences,

like the universal park or the universal experience coming to the UK, it's like a big, again, billion-pound entity, I think that just feels very cynical, and it feels like evidence of the same cultural stagnation, And not to say that Star Wars or even Sex and City can't be a part of that. This just feels that we're being wrung dry for something which has stayed the same.

And I really defend people's right to love this and to feel very tenderly. But I think on the side of analysis, which I guess is what we're here to do, we did also get a message from Jack. And I love this message because it crystallised for me what is going on. And he said, I broadly agree with the piece and would add that it's part of the wider fact that we don't really have shared cultural touchstones. in our society at the moment. So the ones we do have are ones of previous decades and generations because of that

break. That's essentially down to the advent of social media algorithms where what we consume has become way more individualised, hence the shared art, using that term in the broadest possible sense, goes back to bands whose heyday was the same as my parents and a film franchise that finished when I was in primary school, Loll. And that's true. And what we mentioned in this week's bonus, we're all being sorted into these schools of taste now and like siloed into these different factions but once upon a time we would all read watch

harry potter read similar books watch the simpsons you know six or six 30 on the dot and now are being dispersed so i think i do understand why this is such an interesting user case but if you step back just that little bit from but i loved it i think a lot people would find it quite interesting to interrogate yeah why has this got such a hold on me and why has it got such a hold on on on british culture famously we cannot let go, we still think that we are an empire. Like it just feels very, it feels just a very British case. Jack and Jess's messages hit something really crucial on the head, which is that, and a lot of authors say this,

which is once an author writes books and puts it out into the world, it no longer belongs to them, it belongs to the reader and what they make of it. And I think all of those little touch points you have, like those in jokes you make, like calling, saying a dog looks like Dobby or whatever. I think those are the parts that we own. That's a really special part of the nostalgia. And I think that's where we get to play with our memories of things that are important to us growing up. And I don't think anyone should feel as though they can't engage in that sort of, I was going to say camaraderie, who am I?

In that sort of like community building and like joke telling or whatever. But I think that's what we got to draw a line and recognize the difference between that and then like continuing to fund quite a nefarious character. And I think those two things do need to be separated because I think perhaps where people felt uttered by this piece or it hurt them was it felt like you were taking away something. like the entirety of what this world has built for you. It's not, it's just saying we're not going to continue to give our money to this woman, but you can still enjoy the way that work made you feel like you don't have to completely strip yourself

of every touch point that Harry Potter's end into life or ways that it just crops up naturally. But yeah, I think just like a continued blind contribution to this huge billionaire's wealth is something that could be worth interrogating. Thank you so much for listening this week and for all of your thoughts on this topic. Quick reminder that we're on Instagram and TikTok at Everything's Content Pod

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