Everything Is Content - Everything In Conversation: Molly-Mae & Mum Shaming

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Roll up, roll up! The EICircus is in town and for this week's extra episode we're discussing Molly Mae and the epidemic of mum shaming.Since having her daughter Bambi in 2023, the influencer Molly Mae Hague has been at the epicentre of all kind's of scrutiny, and perhaps never more so than when she candidly shared her frustration at having done "nothing fun" all summer. Does a multi millionaire girl boss and influencer extraordinaire have a right to complain that mothering leaves little room for other things? Is she being ungrateful or is this exactly what we've been begging public figures to do for years?Thanks so much for your thoughts on this & let us know what you made of the episode/ this discussion on Instragam @everythingiscontentpod or in our comments.O, R, B xSubstack - Molly Mae Not Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So 26-year-old British influencer Molly May has been under a little bit fire recently after getting candid about her experience of mothering her nearly three-year-old daughter, Bambi. Since having Bambi in January 23, Molly May has opened up about her postpartum overwhelm, having to do a lot of the first months of parenting alone, while partner and father of Bambi, Tommy Fury, was away training, and how difficult she's finding aspects of raising a toddler. In a vlog from June, she said this, quote, I'm having one of those days, toddler mum days where I question, am I actually cut out for this? When I watch people's videos and hear them talking about motherhood and how much every single minute they love it, and I sit there and think, is there something wrong with me as a mum? I'm having one of those days where I'm finding impossible. Absolutely impossible. The fact that there's moms out there that do it with zero support from any family or anyone and have multiple children, the concept of having multiple children, I can't even. I don't know how anybody does that.

I just don't. End quote. She's also opened up about how her summer has been going as a parent to a toddler. In a conversation with her sister Zoe on one of her blogs, Molly May said, quote, I will get to the end of summer without having done one fun thing. I haven't socialized once. I'm going to get the end of the summer. I haven't done one social fun thing.

I haven't a life. I haven't a life. It's not good. It's all kids related. If it's not work and kids, I'm not doing anything. It's not good. People going for a drink with their friends or to a beer garden. She then added,

I don't remember the last time I did my hair and makeup and put an outfit on for something that wasn't work related. I don't do anything. Let's normalise it. For the girls that are going to get to the end of summer and not done one fun thing. Several news orgs have responded to this with counter reports that Molly May has actually been on around 10 trips this year so far, including two to Dubai, Budapest, Paris, Samaritz, Disneyland, Santa Pei and the Isle of Man. Though it's not clear which of those were for work or mostly for work and which were for leisure, still though she was pictured at Wimbledon and since making the above comments has taken a holiday to a £2,000 a night hotel in Turkey with Tommy Fury and Bambi.

And while her comment section on YouTube is still typically filled with hundreds and hundreds of messages of support, advise and encouragement from other mothers and her fans in general, there's less love for her and these recent comments elsewhere. After posting some photos of her family trips to Turkey on Instagram, people had a lot to say, and the comments were littered with references to her earlier remarks. To give you an idea, I'll read a few. One said, quote, still haven't done anything fun, while us non-famous people are working 12-hour shifts every day. Another said, quote, still complaining, you both have a bad life pal. And finally, boring summer whilst mum struggle to feed their kids. So Monnie Mae is obviously a very wealthy woman with the kind of access and support and luxury that many mothers couldn't dream of. But is that really where the criticism is coming from?

Are influenced mothers damned do they do and damned if they don't when choosing to share both the hard moments and difficult moments and the more aesthetic and wholesome parts of motherhood? I saw the mirror commenting on the backlash that she's been getting. So that was my way into it. And I was really surprised because so much of this has passed me by. And I think since her and Tommy got back together, I don't know what's happened. She has rarely entered my realm of content online, even through conversations. It's really strange. It's almost like she disappeared from my life the minute they got back together and lived their life again. And I don't know why that is. But yeah, that's my kind of approach to it all. So I was really surprised to see all of this backlash building and to see the intensity of it. What about you and only? I'm the same as you, but Molly May's I have to say, never really featured very heavily on my algorithm. I'm always quite shocked when big things happen with her because she does kind of disappear out of view for me. And I don't know if that's just like an age that maybe I'm just not that demographic that was ever necessarily that invested in her. But this did kind of pass me by. But it's interesting

because obviously like the 24 hours and a day thing which I'm sure we'll talk about where she said we've got the same 24 hours in a day as Beyonce or wherever it was that really didn't pass me by but I actually feel very differently about this situation than I did about that one so I'm interested to talk about it and I was actually surprised like our DMs were really balanced but it was a lot of women way more than I think in the past when we've talked about certain comments she's made which were a little bit out of Leffie on the little bit tone deaf this I think rallied both mothers and non-mothers to be like people need to give her a And I think that's where I've landed with her. There's no love loss between myself and Molly May. Like, I don't hate her or dislike her, but I simply don't care. I can't be invested in someone with this kind of platform. Like, I don't think she does any useful with it. I don't think she's a force of evil. And in a lot of cases, I think she's probably doing quite good in sports work for young

moms. But I just, I try not to be aware of her. But in this case, I feel like it is so cut and dry. And she exposes more than anyone else, I think, exactly what women in the public I experience, which is like a total inability to ever do anything free of scorn or hatred or being told they're doing it wrong. Like we have asked her, like the collective we, women, mothers, viewers of content, audiences of content. We have asked moms with kind of privilege and a platform not to present this unrealistic or stylized or fake view of motherhood because I think it's isolating

for other mothers. It's confusing for mothers to be. It's confusing for people who aren't parents who perhaps want to be and it perpetuates this kind of misinformation about parenting which is one I think it makes it harder for us to understand one another across those parental non-parental lines and two I think it it makes it harder for mums to speak up and be like no this is a really hard thing we have to support each other

and she's done that she's literally offered this really candid glimpse into motherhood and like the joyful bits but also the ongoing slug of it and she's still getting these really nasty headlines obviously in this case it's damned if she do wait damned if she do obviously in this case I think it's damned she's damned if she does and she's damned if she doesn't and I think it must be such release for her to just be honest but she would have been anticipating these headlines

I think in one of the videos she's like I know I can anticipate already people are already like the mum shamers are out there but I just don't care I can't be quiet about this and I think for a 26 year old woman who has been a mother for almost three years I think fair fuck she has she has shame both sides of it and I just rolled my eyes when I saw this yeah I think where you've landed

is somewhere where I'm going to land in conversation because I agree with you and I think her whole brand and her MO was just being this gorgeous influencer who was slightly unpolished and there was something so charming about her vlogs were a mess she would you know start an intro Monday and then a month later continue the vlog and be like oh by the way I'm so sorry I forgot to vlog here's me wrapping up and there was such a beauty to it because she just was so good at being crap at her job in a great way and I think her just saying how she feels about motherhood is part of the same package but it's just frustrated people so much because it doesn't align with you know their lifestyle understandably she comes from a huge

place of privilege it's going to be really difficult for her to be relatable but also part of the reason that so many people loved her is just because she said what she thought and not all of it was very uh taste for at the best of times you know she famously didn't like italian food when she went there. She famously has some very strong opinions about films that are notoriously good films. So I don't know. I think this is part of her package and I am surprised that it really enrages people. I get it because it highlights the disparity between most people's lives and her life. But she is just, she's almost like a character. I think she will, she'll continuously enrage people if you're looking for relatability in her. So I think it's okay to unfollow her. I think

it's okay to say her version of motherhood is not my version of motherhood. But I do, I do find it tricky when it just infuriates people so much because I don't think she's meaning to upset people. And I think that's the thing I find a bit difficult. I think she is just openly, brazenly privileged. She is the influencer she has always been. So I think maybe it's misplaced in that sense, even though it's an understandable emotion. And we got a message from Molly. I don't think it's Molly May. I think it's a different Molly who said, as a mum of a child who is a similar age to Bambi, living a very normal 9 to 5 life, it would be very easy to find Molly's comments a bit irritating

when you know the level of privilege she has. But I would but prefer her candor than other well-known influencers such as Zoe Sug, who portray a very polished and perfect picture of motherhood. For me, Molly gets the right balance of not filming her child misbehaving or having a tantrum, but talking about it so openly and honestly that it's really refreshing.

Sometimes being a mum is just difficult no matter what resources are available to you. Yeah, I think that's where I come at I think that obviously there's levels and layers of privilege that will cushion the impact of how hard it is to raise a child. But I don't think it will ever completely take away the emotional toll of raising a child. I don't know ever, unless you literally, I guess, have like night nannies, day nannies, you've got a whole member of staff and you're actually not playing any part in raising your child. I don't think that there's anyone that finds

24 hours, 365 days a year of parenting easy and chill. I just don't think that that's realistic. and I think it's really unrealistic, as much as I really understand why people find it difficult to look at certain people in society who have so much when so many people have so little, I think it's a slight willful ignorance to say that she can't complain. And we had a message from Dorena, which is a bit like the one you just read out, which said, for decades, we only saw the pink clouds of online parenthood, with creators often raising an entire nursery class of their own kids, and the children's cutest moment shown making them into mini stars.

The reality is that so many women struggle, especially with toddlerhood, can happen to anyone, even those people who you thought were going to be the most chill and laid back mothers. Children are cute, but they're also mini-terrorists, and I applaud Molly May for keeping it real. And I think that there's a danger in, I think that one side of the conversation is that, yes, we need to be honest about how many people are not supported and do not have resources and how difficult that makes it. But I also think it's a trick, it's a slippery slope to tell other women, no matter their circumstances, that they do not have the license or the freedom to complain and talk about how hard it is. And actually, when I then watch some of the videos or listen to what

Molly was saying, I had like quite big levels of empathy for her. It sounds like she does quite a lot of it alone. It sounds like she's pretty isolated. And yes, she has these amazing trips, but they don't really look that fun to me either. Like, again, it's quite isolated. It's often with people that she works with. I don't necessarily think her life to me, obviously she's so wealthy, but the way that she lives it, I don't actually find it that aspirational, even though she has so much more than I do. and so I can kind of take what she says and hear it in the way she says it in a different way from when she said we had 24 hours in a day when I just thought this girl has absolutely no idea what she's talking about. She's living this motherhood thing and I think it's her right to be able to express her feelings of it.

What do you think about some people's opinion and Tossin said a really good point. Motherhood is hard and she's also out of touch with how hard it can be both are correct. And I think that's a really interesting point because I think no one's saying that her version of motherhood isn't, well maybe some people are, but we're not saying that her version of motherhood isn't hard, but I think her delivery, and it's always been her delivery that's really upset people, because the message is not incorrect a lot of the time. It's the way she delivers it is often not in our 2025 world of packaged with disclaimers or understanding of privilege and things like that. She's never really been good at that. She's not the person to do that. And with her communication around motherhood,

She's not saying, oh, you know I, you know I am very blessed to have X, Y, Z. My version of motherhood is not the average person's, but I really struggle with. She doesn't do that. She doesn't couch it in that. So do you think that's the thing possibly that's inflamed people? We had a really, on the topic of that, at the end of Hannah's message, she wrote, following Wally Mae with the expectation of seeing socially aware content is kind of like getting a pet goldfish and expecting it to play fetch.

I think that's true. You cannot be famous from age 19, 20, when she went on love. Island have this army of followers, devotees at this point, be really rich and then kind of stay tethered to most people's reality. And Abby also says, Molly May is obviously not experiencing the same motherhood experience as a single working man with a low income, but she's also never claimed to be. I think that is the point. The things that she's complaining about, the things that she's complaining about, she's not sitting there going, oh my God, aren't school she's expensive, oh my God, isn't childcare, like really, really expensive. Those things are obviously not in her

remit. I'm sure that, you know, she's spending proportional to what she's got, but she's not worrying about how to put a child in childcare, will also go back to work while also filling the fridge. She's complaining that she's not had any fun. And on that case, like, I believe her, I believe I've had a better summer than her. She's been to Wimbled and she's been to Dubai.

She's done this, that, and the other. I believe her summer has been dog shit compared to mine. And I have not done any of those things. Because fun is fun. Time with friends is fun. All of these things are necessary for a person to feel safe and, like, present in the world. Yeah, also money is important and security is important.

But like, socialising, being free to do what you want, having some time off from like the relentless 24-7 job of mothering all of that is is key she's talking about like her emotions and on that sense like put anyone in that situation i think you're going to struggle she's been a mom since she was i think 23 years old i like her life is not aspirational to me either i know it is aspirational to a lot of women we've talked about this before she's kind of this face of young motherhood but she is doing such a good job i think of just being honest about it because we would really have something to criticize in her if this was all going on behind the scenes but she was selling it and selling it and selling it in the fashion of modern tradwives as this utopia come and join me the water's warm and so I'm like we can only criticize her for what she's saying and what she's saying is I've had a shit summer or at least I've not had a fun summer and I can only feel sympathy of her because mine's been great I don't know I just think we're kind of looking at this and I think Hannah's comment just now says it is she is the pet goldfish we must stop trying to walk her I and I think that's such an important point. I think it's really actually crucial that she is, because it is younger

women looking at her and it is younger women that are maybe impressionably thinking they want to be mothers simply based on the fact that Molly May is. And so the fact that she is saying, you know, this isn't that easy, even with all of this army of privilege that I have around me, I think that's really important. Maddie said, I think it's so refreshing to hear her talk about the challenges of motherhood. I think being a mum would be hard no matter how much money you have if you really want to be a really engaged and present mom. I don't find it tone deaf at all. And I've actually found it really relatable. Also, I think it's a pressure unique to women that they have to be relatable to everyone. Why is Molly May's lifestyle expected to be relatable? And that is a question

that we've spoken about quite a lot on this podcast. It's not a standard that we hold men to and I can't remember what piece this was in or where we discussed it, but it was like women in magazines will be talking about how, you know, this awful thing that happened to them all the time, they accidentally wet themselves and you're going to a men's magazine and it'll be like, yeah, my watch cost eight hundred thousand pounds and my car was three million actually and now I'm going to go marry a 21 year old like they have no as and graces about boasting about their luxury lies whereas women we have to always be slightly taken down a peg and prove that even though we might be like this you know we're also normal and so she's actually kind of by giving this honest account maybe

unfiltered maybe not perfectly said she's kind of doing what we're normally asking of women and then even that isn't kind of translating well enough what you both said is so so true and the point about tradwife content online and not having the other side of it was so it. I'd much rather somebody get it wrong and just present the other side rather than having that kind of one note aspirational 1950s, 60s content where everything looks beautiful and you're in, I don't know, adulching Gabana gown making SBF from scratch. I think this, I'd much rather we have this.

And also I think we have to bring up the Tommy of it all as well. It's not just Molly existing as a parent in her own world. she has a partner Tommy who she's gotten back together with and we had a message from Izzy who said I've been a long time fan of hers and I've watched years worth of her YouTube content but recently the past year she's been really low down not her usual self the breakup with Tommy was the catalyst for this whole challenging behaviour that Bambi shows in the videos and clearly what has made Molly May so upset sad down on herself every time Bambi cries has a tantrum in the vlog it's always accompanied by

where's daddy I want daddy and there seems to be a total denial from Molly May that the breakup between her and Tommy cause the baby deep trauma. They still live apart and have two different houses and Tommy is constantly abroad, trading, generally absent. In short, I actually think Tommy should be getting a lot more of the be dear attention, not Molly, as this is not as binary as motherhood and putting all the owners on the woman. Instead, it should be a dialogue about parenting, which makes them both accountable as parents. And I think everything Izzy said, retweet. I think it's really important to not just make this about Molly complaining about motherhood and I think it is really interesting that Tommy has

rarely been brought into it from what I've seen from newspaper reports. I don't know about discourse online because as I said, this is not really entered my periphery, but it just really has been a presentation of her being complaining, moaning, annoying, privilege out of touch, asshole. And actually, for the last few years, we've spoken about it before. It seems like quite a challenging setup that they have and something that objectively looks quite difficult and while she was pregnant and he was training abroad. Honestly, that would be my nightmare, my absolute nightmare to go through pregnancy alone. I cannot imagine what that would be like. If she's in a scenario now where she's back together with somebody, they had a challenging

breakup that was extremely public and traumatic whilst raising a child and maybe all of that is coming back or she's, you know, piecing together the aftermath of that, of course that would be fucking horrendous. Objectively, that is a horrendous situation. And I do think it's really easy to run with the narrative of somebody being annoying, irritating, privileged asshole. But I do think a lot of nuance has probably been not afforded to her, being a very young mother, having dealt with a really challenging breakup, whilst also having a child and also the impact on that child as well. That just seems like a much more 3D picture of what's going on to me. Yeah, totally. And like all message when she said, Dad's absolutely don't get the same judgment or treatment.

They're often even praised for the bare minimum of parenting, like taking their child up by themselves, etc. Tommy didn't raise a smile in those airport picks either, but Molly May is the focus. And that was based on an Instagram story that we did of them. I think either returning or heading off on this $2,000 a night holiday and both of them look quite glum as one is wanted to do in the airport. And of course, it's just twisting that narrative to be like, as you say, well, moly bitch, what an ungrateful cow.

because the idea of a woman with like a 3.5 million pound house at age 26 is like abhorrent to us, especially kind of an influencer, a vlogger, a blonde young woman who was on a reality TV show, whereas it's just a given that that would be a man's reality in the public eye. And it's just this thing splintered off into so many different conversations about how we treat women. And it's, I was really heartened by the messages we got because it was women. And it's always quite balanced in our inbox, but often like the listeners pull no punches. I think it was like, this is too far. This is criticising someone for simply sharing the reality of being a mother.

This is not classist. This is not an issue of privilege and wealth. This is motherhood is hard for everyone. And if it is this hard for someone who has this much wealth and empathy in this case can trickle down and it should. It should be like for fuck. If that's the reality for her, think of how hard it is for other people. And I think she does do these kind of callouts, whether they're useful or not, but she does say to people like, mama, hang in there. And her comments are filled with people being like, thank you for sharing this.

I do feel less alone and perhaps finding a small glimmer of community. Like if you are looking for good, like I don't, like she's definitely not a force ill in the world of like motherhood. And I think for an influence like that, you could kind of just hope for that. Like my expectations have never been higher for her. Then, okay, please don't. Don't be like a malevolent force because I think a lot of,

a lot of influences and creators and celebrities can be, especially in like the motherhood space. I think it was a fellow reality TV star. I forget her name from Tawi, who was talking about like she doesn't put SPF on her children. It's like there is so many new lows to plow in this space for someone to be like, huh, I'm sitting in the car because my kid has overwhelmed me. My sister and my mom have taken her in. I'm going to sit here and have a cry.

I think that's a force for good. And it's kind of like just don't discourage this woman from sharing these things because I think it would leave a lot of her fans and followers with one less kind of guiding light. And I'm really surprised that I am saying this as again, someone who's not a big fan of Molly May. I do think on this, she's kind of solid. I don't think she needs any of the peanut gallery to chime in and telling her. she's doing it wrong. I feel like she's actually doing a really good job. I feel exactly the same. And again, I don't have really any thoughts or feelings on Willie May I don't, I'm not necessarily interested in her life. But I think any woman that comes

forward and says, I just feel huge levels of empathy, irrespective of like how much they do or don't have. And I think that we do a disservice to each other when we don't allow each other to speak up on the difficulties of what motherhood is because it is so often parenting falling on the mother when it like, as what that message said, you know, it takes two to tango and there are two people in the relationship that could be taking the reins. And we did have an mess from Laura, which is something that I think is interesting. We'll have to look at how this changes over the next few years. But Laura says it's so complex. This is definitely rooted in anti-imluencer hate and their bracket staged privilege. And I do wonder if the tide is turning and if the

traditional influences that came up that very much influencing is their sole thing, they're not sort of like another creative who then does something else and influencing. I wonder if perhaps people are starting to get sick of influences in general and whether or not that is. something that we're going to see more and more. I think that is going to be interesting because obviously they've rained very highly for so long, maybe that's coming to an end. Yeah, I think because the disparity between what we see as perfect, you know, wealth online versus what is happening behind screens, the cost of living crisis, the economy continuing to plummet, interest rates going up, people are increasingly spiraling IRL and the content doesn't seem to

have changed very much online, at least on my Instagram. If anything, it seems like worse and more privilege. And I only think that possibly because it really is the pits just like around for normal people. So I think it is such an easy target of frustration, resentment, anger, just to see people, I don't know, just like breezing past the situation. It feels more pronounced. It feels more exaggerated. And I totally get it because to be completely human now and again, if I'm in a foul mood and I see, you know, like a press trip, or I see an influencer that a year ago didn't bother me just, you know, back to back trips to X, Y, Z and just seems like having the best time ever, it will send me into a fit of rage sometimes.

And that's just being completely human. It's, it's annoying. And I think it just is a very, I don't know, we're constantly being faced with this content. And sometimes it's going to land really badly. So I do really understand the resentment of seeing things that just completely, you know, don't align with the lifestyle or the kind of. of struggles that are going on in your own life. But I also think we have to ground ourselves. Nothing has changed. Also, just because, you know, the content we see online can be annoying.

We can unfollow. We can take responsibility for what we see on our feeds. And also, it is just different. There's always been wealth. There's always been extreme wealth. If we are frustrated with the disparity, it's not the people on the receiving end that are the problem unless they are somebody like Jeff Bezos or billionaires who are contributing to evils in the world, that they are the problem. The problem is, you know, our government, the situation we're in right now, the lack of accountability for workers' rights, for unemployment levels, for the fact that life is fucking hard. We need to turn to a more positive or productive point of view rather than pointing to the people and the individuals who are just living their lives. And doing maybe

some small net positives like Molly May is in this regard, not in regard to her fast fashion, but in regards to motherhood, her just being honest is not the problem. The problem is, you know, the of nursery places, the cost of childcare, the fact that gender norms becomes so pronounced in heterosexual relationships for a lot of women where the burden of childcare falls onto them. It's just Molly Mae is not the problem in those scenarios. She's an easy target, but she's just not the problem in those scenarios, I think. I did read quite a good, short, snappy substack about this. It's the shrink-wrap substack.

And the writer appears to be kind of hold the same position as us. Like no love lost is not a Molli Mae fan, but is quite critical of the general position on this. And I'm going to read a short bit. Quote, every time I leave after a shift, I wish many things, but mainly that all human beings had the freedom to be unhappy. Even if they're rich, successful, loved on holiday, clever, wearing an amazing outfit in full health, killing it at work, beautiful, respected, well fed. In no danger, Molly May Hay got anything in between. It's all relative to you, what's going on inside you and your experiences.

I know, I know, duh, but it's so easily forgotten when you're struggling. Sometimes celebrities end their own lives and everyone is puzzled because what do they have to feel sad about? So they post be kind on their social media and then get back to slating someone like Molly May for daring to find fault with an existence that looks pretty cushy from the outside in the brief curated, edited vlogbursts she allows you to see. Wouldn't it be great if people stop being such dicks? To each other and then to themselves. What a relief for everybody.

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