Everything Is Content - The Coachella-ing of Glastonbury, working it out on the remix and The Genny Lec

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

Join us for a tender post-Glastonbury episode of Everything Is Content. See how long it takes you to guess which one of our trio spent the weekend on a farm in Somerset… we discuss if Glastonbury has become commercialised like its american cousin Coachella. Would we take up the offer of gifted glamping if we were offered it? We also discuss the cultural phenomenon of the nemesis, and discuss Charli and Lorde working things out on the remix. And we reflect on our hopes and fears for the new government.Give us a follow on Instagram and TikTok @everythingiscontentpod - we’d love to hear what topics you would like us to discuss on the podcast. And while you’re here, make sure you’re subscribed to the podcast so you never miss an episode! —YORGOS LANTHIMOS: Kinds of Kindness VARIETY: Paul Mescal Bulked Up for ‘Gladiator 2’ but Didn’t Want to Become a Sex Symbol: I Never Wanted to Look ‘More Like an Underwear Model Than a Warrior’BBC IPLAYER: Dua Lipa at Glastonbury NOVARA MEDIA: Labour is Still Letting The Far Right Set The AgendaPITCHFORK: The Girl, so confusing version with LordeTHE ATLANTIC: Get Yourself A NemesisJACK ROOKE: If only Diana and Camilla…—Follow us on Instagram:@everythingiscontentpod @beth_mccoll @ruchira_sharma@oenone ---Everything Is Content is produced by Faye Lawrence for We Are GrapeExec Producer: James Norman-FyfeMusic: James RichardsonPhotography: Rebecca Need-Meenar Artwork: Joe Gardner  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Listen to this tweet. My worst nightmare is Spotify randomly throwing out an Ed Sheeran song when I'm driving and then I crash and die but it keeps playing so the first responders think I was an Ed Sheeran fan and they tell my mum and I end up being cremated to fucking shape a view. I'm Beth. I'm Richera. And I'm a post-cast from Rianuni. I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh but that is tiny voice. This is Everything Is Content. i'm sorry i shouldn't laugh but that is my voice this is everything is content on this podcast we'll unpack the biggest pop culture stories of the week and delve into the corners of internet discourse we are the cream on the strawberries of content follow us on instagram and tiktok at everything is content pod and make sure you are subscribed so you never miss a thing today on the podcast we'll be chatting about the yassification of glastonbury charlie and lord working out on the remix and the jelly leg girlies what have you been loving this week i watch kinds of kindness

by our babe yogas yes i watched it on the weekend and I really liked it. It was set into the kind of like three stories that are loosely connected and it's this theme of like control and subjugation. And yeah, it's like all of these like kind of fantastical surreal scenarios. And Jesse Plemons, it's like leading in like two out of the three.

And as a leading man man he's really good love him yeah and emma stone our fave as well is in it and willem dafoe plays this kind of like wellness sex guru in like the third one he's so hot he was born to play that character i thought this film wasn't until like next year because we just had poor thing is out and was it how does it compare to poor things it is really different and i spoke to somebody about this and i read a couple reviews apparently it's more like his like earlier work it's like really dark super surreal poor things apparently was a lot more of a softer yogas lantamos than what this is but is it beautifully is it like no in a different world no so it's shot in new orleans but you couldn't tell it's just like modern world kind of like

inconspicuous you couldn't really tell where it's based because he is so dark in his and i so want to like baby girl him be like yogi he is like his output is so dark and so it's brilliant but it's so dark you can't i want i really want to see it or is it too will i will i be too sad i don't think you'll be sad it's definitely dark and there's like his classic kind of like really dark kind of like sex jokes at like the worst times vibes to it i think it's quite funny actually i thought it was like very dark comedy we were laughing at poor things us three yeah um the person i went to see it with my boyfriend um he um he didn't love it he didn't love it so we had a bit of a like discourse back and forth of like i think for him did he fight did you break up yeah so i'm single because of this guy now um no kind of kindness i'm now single thank you no basically he just thought it was like way too dark and he found

it just like kind of annoying but i think it was really fun what have you been loving beth it is again cinematic i've been loving the gladiator two stills not the stills just literally the stills of the film i'm so with you but literally it's pictures of i think it's pedro pascal paul and mezcal and denzel washington and denzel washington oh the little hoop denzel i have to say actually winning for me i know he is so gorgeous and the film is not out till November it's about the same day as Ariana film

what's it called Wicked Wicked again it's not going to be Oppenheimer oh my god it's like Barbenheimer

what would you call it they called it something I saw a time for it what was it Rakedator no Gladick for goodness sake

I'll go behind Gladick but they are both out the same day which I do maybe I'm being cynical but i do imagine is to try and capitalize on that same thing but the stills are on this i don't even think the trailer's out but the stills i sat and i watched them do you know that you watched this oh yeah you know the parks and recreation meme where it's like aziz and zari

going i've looked at this for five hours now that is me with the stills because it's paul mescal just like grunting you can smell the sweat through the squeak like everyone looks so dirty and gorgeous and also he looks roman he does yeah yeah well i haven't been loving anything because the thing i've been loving is glastonbury but actually just to keep on theme on the day that i was going to see duellipa jamie xx was on and we kept walking past people i was with grace we were like who you're gonna see and they're like jamie xx and it literally was like barbenheimer like we were wearing the girliest outfits and everyone else

had gone like boff and everyone was like they were opposite ends of the festival and you'd literally walk past a group being like do it oh no Jamie

okay and everyone everyone was kind of like really judgmental about who you chose to see obviously we chose correctly because do it is my god

love do it how we'll come on to status though because you have been ravaged by class array and what you mean i always sound like this it's beautiful to see you definitely do not we are recording this podcast in the last 24 hours before the UK general election. So right now we do not know the results, but everyone listening to this will.

I sound like Davina McCall on Big Brother. Yeah, it's giving anticipation. Housemates. Do you want another one? Please do not swear. You are live on TV. So are we safe to assume that when this podcast goes out, we will have a Labour government? I always assume we cheer it. You just know the most about politics do you where did i get that from i have no idea no i

think it's because you like bit newsy bit newsy bit newsy but you so you tell us who's our government who are the leaders oh this is the worst possible thing you could have done for me thank you um with no possible interior knowledge about this situation it sounds like all the all the polls are suggesting that it's going to be a labor landslide and one of the biggest labor landslides since before pre-tony blair i believe the mood's fucking shit let's be real but you know what's so annoying is that as dreamy as it would have been during january corbin's reign when i was so sure that labor going to win that I cried when they didn't and then it was like oh sorry you were never going to win oh I wept into my this is when the algorithms were working properly my echo chamber was so strong that I didn't know that

anyone else even knew that anyone outside of Jeremy Corbyn could be a leader and then they just kicked him out yeah it was rough and I did also cry in that and I cried into my family group chat this is 2019 and I had a great pep talk from my dad that just said listen you're going to see a lot of elections in your lifetime you voted pick it up keep moving I think that a lot of people will be touch wood that we have the Tories been booed out a lot of people have got a lot to celebrate seeing the other side of it so I I think I feel very happy for those people i feel very happy i know a lot of people have been saving bottles of champagne a lot of my disabled friends have been literally

saving bottles of champagne for the end of the tory reign so little glimmers of hope i think yeah do you think this is the first election of our lives that's felt inevitable has it ever been this sure i guess no i think that is probably the first time since i could vote that it has been literally determined by experts from like even the beginning when it was first called by rishi sunak that this is just going to be the result no questions about it i'm like it's never been like that even for brexit even for like you know the 2015 election i think brexit's i don't know why i'm saying brags with a g but brexit has given us all like anxiety like i don't trust anything anymore yeah traumatized from it all 2016 actually was just horrifying oh my god yeah trump brexit leicester won the championships to be fair i was born in leicester

so yeah i mean i was pro it but it was quite unexpected it was the best of times the worst yeah how have you guys been feeling about the mood i feel like i can't believe six weeks have gone it's both been the longest and the shortest time frame and it felt it felt like polling day just like crept up even though i don't know six weeks should have been like a really momentous period of time yeah it's felt so long ed davy has done more activities in this time than i've done in a lifetime feels like he's been on a pgc holiday do you know what i mean when i say it feels like it's just been like a personal like little campaign for davy can i just say the conservatives social media has been so

unhinged during this election i tweeted to them just because out of concern i was like has someone on your team got is there a gas leak because it was so it's so it's so bad i actually think it should be illegal some of the stuff like why is it not illegal it's foul tell us tell us some of the stuff that so they did one where you know on the new twitter the new x if you pay for a tick you can do basically a million thousand characters they were like if you vote labor you know what's gonna happen tax tax tax tax and then if you imagine that said about a thousand times and it's just the weirdest social media strategy they were like if they win and then they had a video of a beach and they rolled out a red carpet and they wrote welcome in the sand that was which is just just so fucking

weird and rank it's so but also it's such blatant racism and just nastiness it's just like plain old fascism actually off the back of that much of the political rhetoric in this election cycle has been focused on this culture wars issues and recently a particularly high profile example of this was when david tennant accepted the celebrity ally award at the lgbtq awards at the end of June and referenced the Equalities Minister, Kemi Badenoch, in a speech. Can we assume she's the former Equalities Minister?

I think so, yeah. Who has said that she would exclude trans women from single-sex spaces. And he said, until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist anymore, I don't wish any ill of her. I just wish her to shut up. Badenoch responded and said, a rich lefty white male celebrity so blinded by ideology knock doesn't exist anymore i don't wish any ill of her i just was her to set up bad not responded

and said a rich lefty white male celebrity so blinded by ideology can't see the optics of attacking the only black women in government by calling publicly for my existence to end i mean this stoked up the timeline i'm sure you guys saw this totally i'm so irritated i'm so fucking irritated hearing it again i hate how like tory people of color weaponize their race to basically say that they can't be called out for also trying to oppress other marginalized communities that's literally in a like tight line what exactly has just happened here absolutely as probably the most senior black woman in the conservative she will have been the target for via misogyny via racism but this isn't what's

happening here this does exist people wishing violence against black women but then he immediately corrects himself like says i wish no ill ill will against her i just wanted to shut up which is the most toothless and tame thing you can say but then loads of black mps and black people in parliament retweeted and said she doesn't speak for every black person and this isn't what I think and I think there was a real strength in that because it has got really confusing where the right have really been weaponizing this language that for so long the left have used to explain how there is a hierarchy of access privilege and intersectionality that we do have to consider every single time we do anything in life we have to be able to tell people to shut up in the most,

like that is such bland language. To say shut up, it is to say what you're saying is revolting. I wish you wouldn't say it. I wish you had no cause to say it. I wish that you would remove that language. Shut up is not violent language. And there's no misogyny in it just because that's a woman you're saying it to.

We can hate one another's opinions. And I just think, I think it was such a low place for them to go. And I think it would immediately reveal their position as being totally weak. I also feel like, just to go back to what we were saying about why this election feels so drab,

and it is just the fact that it's been kind of reduced to these like horrible exchanges. And as like literally Keir Starmer said himself, making a political football out of trans women in this election and the fact that he you know in the run-up to election day has u-turned on that and then further himself said that he wants to stop trans women entering single-sex spaces it's just like I don't know ruining the fact that we've waited for our entire lives for a different government for change for progression for liberal values to

come in it's just like this is basically soft tourism just entering in the door but it's also embarrassing like when we were growing up what politicians and parties would do would talk about their policies and the things that they wanted to change and now all they do is tell you about how they're not going to do the thing that the other one's doing and it's like are you five it's like a playground and they're not even talking about policy they're just like all right you're gonna do that we're gonna do this we hate these people you hate those people oh my god blah blah blah like i actually couldn't really tell you concisely what these people actually care about on either side what they actually want all it has become is the culture wars they're clinging on to which is also quite funny because kind of in

our spheres i think culture wars is kind of a bit we're kind of moving on we've done that already i think we've all got to a point where we're like right okay we've done this really obvious conversation around intersectionality and privilege we don't actually need to spell it out every time and at this point people want to know the economic policy people want to know what's happening with nhs people are we're poised on the edge of ecological disaster people do not want to know what bland thing you're going to say about who can use a public toilet and it just makes me and they are using a real group of people real individuals that all of us know and love and also just exist in society

to score points against each other you're reducing humans into issues making it hard of them to participate in public life all to win an election that you will do nothing with. And I think I've read a great piece by Maureen Lothian-McLean, who we have referenced many times. She wrote a newsletter for Navarra. I think it's her last one

before the election where she talked about the election. She talked about wanting to feel hope, really wanting to feel hope, but finding it difficult. And I will link it in the in the show notes I feel exactly the same I think everything was lined up for us to feel hopeful about this but it does feel like we are being led into the darkness again I don't feel any hope in

the top positions I feel hope as per usual in the organizers certain local politicians and the people on the ground but i do not feel hope in kirsten and his people at his level so we asked you a lovely lot what you wanted us to talk about this week and overwhelmingly the answer was glasto or as americans call it glastonberry we had one of us reporting live from the ground and that is anoni hence the voice and only before we get into this how was it it's my first Glastonbury we got coach tickets that arrived at like 6 p.m on the Thursday we had to walk through crowds with our bags and which people were shouting us like who arrives on Thursday oh so you're already

like well this is embarrassing it's not kind and then by the time we got out of our tent we made immediately we're listening to which I don't understand if songs don't have words I don't know why I'm there and I don't understand what's going on so i remember getting home at like 2am and just feeling like i don't i hate it by home you mean the campsite back to the campsite by myself because everyone stayed out and i tried so hard to stand i was like can't do it i almost cried i was like i don't think i'm gonna like it and then we woke up the next day i got dressed up saw olivia dean on the pyramid stage and i was like oh my god crying and then from then on it was amazing why did you when did you lose

your voice I was like who's she singing along to keen no so it was it was Friday it was after so I met up with my friend Grace from the whole day together and we went a bit nuts and I kind of stayed out all night but also I'd been talking constantly everyone we met was like this girl does not stop talking and then I woke up on Saturday and I went to speak and I just went, nothing, nothing came out. So me and Ruchira were, we've been before. So before you think that we aren't cool, we're actually pretty cool. Pretty damn cool.

But we were watching from home. Not the same home. We don't live together. Oh, I thought we did. Not yet. We were watching from home. So we have observed the festival. Actually, not through a no-need, because no-need, you didn't upload anything while you were

there. I was very impressed. Oh, I was offline. offline yeah so we were watching through everyone else's social media and the tv so our view of glassery this year has been purely i was gonna say speculative that's not the word but it is quite a long words i'm gonna use it it has been purely second third hand and having watched it having read a lot of tweets a lot of people think that glassery has sold out has gone what's the word not truly commercialized but it's been gentrified is there another word like

do you know what I mean Richard a lot of the content I've seen it's from people saying it's been Coachella-ified yeah that's a great word it's changed this is the first time I've gone but I went to school right next to Glastonbury so I grew up with all my loads of my friends live near Glastonbury so much so they get a free ticket every year on the Sunday love that for them anyway I had a ticket when I was 15 it was free

but I had a ticket and then I whitey'd on weed and I made my mum take me to hospital and then she went through my phone and I text my friends our producer just looked nervous

we're gonna get weed for Glastonbury and my mum made me my mum didn't let me go and every single year since then my school friends have all gone

and I've actually just like been like I guess I can't go because I missed the boat like they all started going so some of my friends have gone i'm not joking like 15 times i do think it's changed from what i've heard because i have friends that go every year and they're like it is it's so busy can i ask you camp like like a regular person yeah yeah you weren't in camp carola which is like the bougie off-site well and you didn't cap in a tp no so i i was with a massive group but it's all of our 30s right and i got offered glamping this glamping attention should have been four grand and i got offered it for 500 between six of us so what's that like nothing anyway okay so we were in a group and

we're like should we ask the main girl whose birthday it was and she everyone's like she's gonna say no i was like she's not gonna say no we texted she was like no no because i want everyone to come together so we didn't ramp you don't need that but then but then one of my friends were camping on on the last night we went to my campsite to get my bag and then to her campsite and oh my god is it far away okay but the people that go to these like amazing campsites they don't need to worry about how far the walk is because they're getting hella no no no you don't you get buggy to the entrance of the festival and then you have to walk and then you have to walk and it's further than anything else what i saw and what i've never seen before is people documenting their helicoptering because i know it's always happening i only saw maya jammer doing that i saw

one or maybe two influencers saying come with me to glastonbury which i have never seen and maybe it's i've never been that active on TikTok before but I was seeing this of influencers or people working in brands and I thought this is quite unusual like who? sorry

not unknown yeah not someone I follow but someone who just came off my FYP for you Paige I saw loads of people I saw Grace Beverly did she get helicoptered?

she went with Camper no but she like had like proper TV she's been in I'm asking about the helicoptering because that's what I'm oh I saw one girl on TikTok and she only had like maybe 2000 followers on TikTok and she like had like proper tv i'm asking about the helicoptering because that's oh i saw one girl on tiktok um and she only had like maybe 2 000 followers on tiktok and she only had like a few thousand on instagram so she wasn't even like big fish fry paying for it no i i'm pretty

i'm pretty sure that it was like hashtag spawn con and i think she was like a model or something so i bet she probably just asked them lest you forget glastonbury is a festival which has since i think it's 1970 i would say 71 it might be 79 since the 1970s has had this ethos of kind of ecological i don't know how you say ecologicalism that's a word it has it has ties with all kinds of like environmentalism precisely all of these has ties with these charities it has an ethos that is based in preservation of the earth care for the preservation of the earth, care for the earth, love for the earth,

love for humanity. Being a hippie. And it does seem a little bit at odds to one, tie in with like brand trips that are about fast fashion or even fashion in general and also have people

hella torturing in. Well I think the problem is they can't control that and so it's definitely with the rise of social media so I think that there was always hospitality, the Sienna Millers, the Alexa Changs, the kate mosses they were always but they also are inherently boho chic so they were always these celebrities that were never sort of like

known for being super polished and now i think you're right what is changing is people are full glam looking gorge yeah and it's visible now like now i know i know that there's this going on before i think i was a little bit starry-eyed about it i just kind of assumed everyone was mucking it even if they were in a teepee they were sort of like the same mucky in and i didn't realize i didn't notice that because i was in the campsite and also when you're there in the i guess i don't know if they go to different sections i guess i must be like vip there's hospitality but i was just running around like had this chicken it definitely did feel different this year like the amount of social media content i saw from influencers getting um

l'oreal barber camper i saw somebody i know got taken to the pig as part of it and like there were all of these people going to like so her farmhouse and then like getting like buggyed back into the festival and all these different experiences okay cancel get off this podcast now but it's just really shit because it does like feel like it's glastonbury for one type of person and glastonbury for the normie and it feels really different i do think it's such a good point about that because people are spending the average customer is spending a huge amount of money to be there taking holiday from work the crushes are real you know it seemed poorly planned on that front potentially we'll you know see what comes out about that to prioritize or seem to prioritize

the people who are getting freebies over like there's there's definitely space for that like the festival has to make money but over the average consumer which makes up most people there the people that love this festival the people that put the heart and soul into this festival just seems a little bit crooked and a little bit honking. Can I just say, I don't think Glastonbury has anything to do with gifting. I think they have now

expanded the amount of VIP bartends and stuff because they can't host on the ground. So these are independent things that are on different land. So like loads of the VIP things, it's nothing to do with Glastonbury.

A brand is somehow either through a music label or something sourcing these. It's not Glastonbury Festival paying for these influences. Working together. It no i'm getting tickets i think they must be in relationship to a degree because also like when you get a ticket you have to put all your details forward but these brands will have a certain amount allocated for them so they like glass from me must be aware of that it's the way you get like press tickets like the met gala

sort of situation where a brand will go we're bringing this many people this is how many tickets we're going to purchase i think the brands are buying them through a channel that finds it easier to get them but i don't think blasphemy is going here's 300 tickets no but the hospitality area i think has been stretched to accommodate them like within the last five years for example pre-covid post-covid hospitality was you would see music agents celebrities performers now if you've got the money you can be in hospitality versus it being quite a rarefied thing to get and i think as you stretch those areas as you prioritize the people that are putting the money behind them which will invariably be a brand or just wealthy people you will just see like

maybe a dip in quality or at least less of focus on the average festival goer i also do think that people though that love it do camp like i think that even wasn't louis tomlinson just in like a random field with his big tv yeah i love this story can you tell this because i because he basically bought a telly in to show the euros but he was obviously just camping like near where i was camping and he bought a big tv and then everyone's campsite just sat and watched the euros which is so cute he looks so good looking actually i thought i actually love his gray hair i didn't used to there were so many celebrities i walked past they took me about five minutes we're like oh there is a way of blending in and actually weirdly a complete segue but abby clancy and peter crouch talking about they love glastonbury and

they were talking about last year they glamped and abby was like i don't want to do it again the walk was so far let's just camp there's this perceived idea that it's better he's so long though I know but the thing is I was because my problem was I got a coat shaker if you can drive you can bring everything you need you can bring an actual pillow and then it's fine like being in a tent is fine it's just I was literally sleeping on some rocks a bag of cans I feel like I have to be honest where when i see this stuff i get annoyed by influencers having a different version to it and i feel like kind of smug that i've not had that experience but if i'm being completely honest if a brand asked me to go and camp in a teepee

fuck my morals i don't give a shit like i would go it would be so fun and it would be a nicer way to do it in my mind and it would feel really luxurious so i'm a bloody hypocrite sorry yeah i would have no qualms if they invited me and invite you both let's talk emily evas if you're listening which probably are also so one more thing there is also the other thing which is the best thing you can do which is what i think wish i had which is the on-site teepees that you get put in a ballot for which you pay for and it's just a tent set up for you then there's also these ones that i was going to stay in which actually i went to one because one of my friends staying one and it's just a big teepee with like a camp bed so it's like the difference that it feels

is so little and actually it's way more fun being on the campsite because you like make friends and like I kept just being like a homing pigeon to my turn but if I was glamping I would I would have just been lost in the streets another element to this that I've seen is the kind of glasto content before and after like I saw a lot of like glasto halls so it's people saying here's my glasto outfits and it was it was stuff that they'd all bought fast fashion which i think it was really jarring because again like if you're going to a festival even if you don't you don't have to share the values of a festival a founder to go to the festival but if it is a festival like glastonbury which has got very firm roots in the environment I just think that is really jarring I just think if it an industry that we know has like is literally

like fire and brimstone for the planet to be like a straight face here's my Glastonbury haul from insert fast fashion brand here that was quite jarring I saw that more than ever and again could it be more online it could be we're all more online didn't love that I can I just say something in case no one's ever been and I actually posted glass glass to magic with like 85 different emojis as my caption because I genuinely could not think and half of me wanted to use pretty long caption about how I've been going through a really difficult time and I felt really anxious and I was like cannot be bothered so I was like glass to magic unicorn etc I literally just opened instagram then four people that I follow glass to you have my heart glass so you have my heart glassastonbury you have my heart

Glastonbury is the best place on earth blah blah blah having been I thought was amazing I thought the tickets really good value for money I'm really bad at going to concerts having seen Dua Lipa, Coldplay, Sugar Babes by the time you add that up that's the cost of my ticket done

hand on heart if you've never been and you don't know if it's for you I would never say and I know some people believe this but it's not the best place on earth and it is amazing in some ways but i just think there is this real pressure for everyone to kind of be like i've been now and now i know and it's like some people will feel that i think it's like more and more people go than i've ever seen i think this year i've never seen

so many people that i follow go and the pressure is there ahead of time to have the best time so i think that's why people overspend and over egg the pudding and also the outfits so for instance it always used to be like wear a pair of wellies take your mom's old shorts you need a raincoat blah blah even i was stressing out the outfits like that was kind of what was ruining it for me i was getting so overwhelmed about what i needed to pack and now that i've been i would literally just bring like stuff that you already own all of my stuff i don't know how people bought nice jewelry and nice sunglasses i went two years in a row and i stretched out the second year and i took not a word of like the exact same like to the letter the exact same stuff and i had the best time because

i went what the first time i worked same time took exactly i copy and pasted i don't know about you guys but a lot of the time i wasn't in an estate to have a picture taken so like it's it's interesting how much again a festival is kind of about escaping your reality not being observed i was really using it as a process to like i kind of want to get out of my life i did take loads of pictures and then i post them after but festivals are for like losing your goddamn mind but also specifically this festival as well like i've got a stat from last year glastonbury paid oxfam water aid and greenpeace 1.7 million pounds and it's just kind of nuts that that is all happening at the same time as as we're saying like all of this kind of like insane commercialism

and like I don't know all of these people just like flocking to this site spending a ton of money getting helicopters in getting a ton of fast fashion just for this event it's like I think potentially the event is kind of growing outside of itself in a way that it doesn't really have control of at the moment there's this element now where like i do think the ticket is good value in terms of if you see every music act and you're like it is actually very good value but that 200 300 pounds is so much more that only really people in their 30s can afford it unless you have money like i can't imagine being 18 now and there being anywhere in hell i could afford that so like actually the

demographic i think is either aging or just getting richer so it is gentrifying you're just getting a posher richer probably whiter audience yeah exactly and people get annoyed at people getting spun in well what else are you gonna do we did have one message from beth on instagram who said people in their 30s at glassbury seem to have their own different but still very fun time so i don't know what age group beth is in is this a dig is this snide or is she saying listen we're all elderly together and only as a 30 club member who went to class though do you know what she means? No, do you know what's so funny? The minute I turned 30, I take back anything I ever said. I remember being in the pub with my friends

and we'd see like a group of what we perceived to be 30 year old women drinking wine. And we'd be like, you need to leave. Like you are too old to be here. And now that I'm 30, I'm like, I'm so, like what other demographic would go? I have more fun doing the things that I do. So I'm reading this

what beth said in a very positive light i think she's saying it's sweet that you're there but do get your zimmer frame out i mean has killed me okay girls let's work it out on the remix i want to talk about having a nemesis you don't have to name them on the podcast but let's start off with do you have one no i don't think i have a nemesis either i think i'm more likely to be someone's enemy than to have an enemy i forget if someone's pissed me off give it six to eight months I'll have forgotten exactly why I had an enemy at uni an enema

and basically it was all caught up in some boy drama but I thought she hated me and she thought she hated me and then literally like two years ago I ran on me

I just was like sitting on my heart so heavy that I thought there was this woman out there that just hated me so I messaged her

and I was like just like I'm really sorry and she was like oh my god I thought you hated me we both just had this weird

conversation once and then just assumed like I'd been really weird with each other I think and now we're like really good friends and now you're at peace which is literally what happened that's literally Charlie XCX and Lorde okay so the reason we're talking about this is I feel like there was a golden year in 2019 when everyone kept talking about having a nemesis and how normal it was there was like articles being like you need to get yourself a nemesis there was one by taylor lorenz literally titled that for the atlantic in 2019 and she spoke about the writer roxane gay who is basically famous for having nemeses and she yeah and she's like really public about it apparently since 2011 she's tweeted blind items about the various foes

in her life yeah in the article taylor loren says declaring a nemesis can be a way to escape becoming a hater yourself we've seen charlie xcx and lord to you know incredible pop stars resolve their beef and resolve their rivalry on the girl so confusing version with lord and i felt so moved listening to the song i felt like something in me healed because yeah i went to an all girls school growing up and that kind of message of comparing yourself to somebody next to you, competing with the girls next to you,

whether that's being thinner, whether that's being sharper, whether that's being more intelligent or more attractive to men has just been like drilled into me from the age of 11. So I've been working on like, you know, kind of ridding myself of that for the last few years and I've been working on like you know kind of ridding myself of that for the last few years and I've been in a really good place with it I feel happy for people around me it feels really good then this song comes out and I'm like fuck this is this is the

best message about all of this I love it what do you think do you not think it comes with age because I used to do this but I would like jealousy would make me dislike people and now that i'm older i'm just really happy for it was like i had to train i don't know what i read i can't remember when it might have been around actually like 2018 2019 when i started learning more about feminism and whenever you feel that envy feeling or that jealousy feeling whatever you're feeling jealous of message that person and be like i love your or you're so good and then it makes it go away yeah so i started practicing that every time i thought like oh she's really good at that i'd be like message them and then they're so nice about it and you're or you're so good at and then it makes it go away yeah so I started practicing that every time I thought like oh she's really good at that I'd be like message them and then they're so nice about it and you're like oh that was nice so I think for me it's been like an age thing but I

definitely was so insecure that I used to like kind of hate people to to feed my spite I don't know if you're brought up with a mom like this but my mom would just be like well she's just jealous which is this unhelpful way of approaching anything and so instead of like realizing what you're feeling yeah processing like well they're just she's just a bitch and it's like she's probably actually really nice she's just good at something you want to be good at I'm maybe the opposite in that as I get older it's not that I have more but it's more pointed I think I feel maybe envy and I I notice what people are having in my time of life I notice someone else's

success someone who I think have these in my career when someone maybe started a similar place does similar work to me and I think oh you've really done really well it's not I think they don't deserve it it's not that I think I just it's that I just think oh I want that oh yeah but that's okay I was using it to be spiteful you're just i know i just i think that's all the time i think you lashed out i lashed in yeah but i do that now i do think that i think oh well she's you know she's married and she's got a good job and like blah blah but it's more of just like um an acknowledgement and it is very normal and in the lyrics too it's what's the song called girl so confusing and girl it is so confusing because the lyrics

are fantastic because it kind of acknowledges it's all going on inside you're basically projecting on this other person all of these ideas yes yes yes yes yes that and yeah everything in every fonts yes it's like yeah it's the bit when she was like i thought this about you i thought you were thinking this about you and she was like actually i was like at war with my body yeah i was like you know i wasn't saying yes to your plans not because i hate you it's because i like was going through something shit and i like projected this like cold bitch exterior and i just oh it made me so emotional because it's like that's just the heart of it we're all projecting our fears onto each other we're all going through shit internally and really

if we all just sat and worked it on the remix we'd be holding hands and loving each other it'd be so good i saw to pivot slightly a tweet by jack rook beloved wish he was friend of the podcast that said if only diana and camilla got to do what do you know what actually really made me think guys so many no way who do you want to work out on the remix go who do you want to work out on the remix oh my god don't I think Kendrick and Drake work out

on the remix I wish they're trying to they're too immature if only Colleen

and Rebecca Vardy had although maybe I'm doing the thing that people do when women

have a very very real and very like serious dispute we go god bloody handbags at dawn whereas like

if men do it we go god they're they're feuding women no I just think the men are too emotionally mature i don't know so you said clean and rebecca clean rooney and rebecca who's yours and i need oh what about um kylie and jordan they're friends again oh they worked out sans remix i think you thought you meant kylie minogue and like jordan

like kate price i was like oh my god she has feuded With everyone Who is in a beef right now Megan Thee Stallion And Nicki Minaj Oh yeah But all of these They are trying to work out Azealia Banks and her And everyone

The world Everyone with a pulse I would like Kim Cattrall And Sarah Jessica Barker To work out on the remix Ideally Saxon City 4 film But like the first one

Not the second one Was it the third one Yeah yeah The second one was RISC There's not a third one though Sorry film three yeah RIP to internet beefs

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