Everything Is Content - White Lotus & Bridget Jones

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Happy Friday and even happier Everything Is Content day! This week the pod is missing our beloved Ruchira (on hols) but are determined to put on a good and- frankly chaotic- show until she’s back in our arms.First up we talk about everyone’s favourite luxury murder show White Lotus. Who are we loving, hating and hoping ends up dead by the end? Plus- is this latest series a familiar high-end hotel romp or a little too much of what we’ve seen before? Then we get firmly stuck into the latest Bridget Jones instalment. Which of us cried the most? Who got more drunk? What did we think of Mark Darcy’s demise? Which hunk did we want her to end up with? And is Bridget Jones a feminist hero, a self-hating hack or a secret third option? Listen to find out!We hope you like (love) this episode just the way it is and if so… why not leave us a 5* rating and/or tell the world about us on social media? We’re @everythingiscontenpod and you are wonderful for reading this far. See you next weds! O, R, B xThe Guardian - Am I Being Unreasonable Waterstones - So Thrilled For You by Holly BourneGoodreads - Fourth Wing Slate - The White Lotus Isn’t Satire. It’s a Slasher Movie. Manchester Evening News - Bridget Jones fans 'horrified' over 'appalling' scene Telegraph - Why I Hate Bridget Jones ----- In Production Partnership with Cue Podcasts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Beth and I'm Anoni and this is Everything Is Content, the podcast for pop culture analysis, celebrity stories and internet drama. TV, film, tech, famous people, books, discourse, we do it all. We are the blue string of discourse floating in the leek soup of pop culture. You've really done it again there, that was so good. You will have noticed that we are missing Ruchira this week. We know where she is. She's on holiday, but it still doesn't feel right or proper. Luckily, though, she'll be back with us all the week after next week, and we will be whole as a podcast once more.

In today's episode, we're talking about The Return of White Lotus and Bridget Jones, both the newest film instalment, which we've both just seen and the cultural impact of everyone's favourite big-knickered heroine. Follow us on Instagram at everything is content pod and I know we say this every week but it's very handy if you hit follow on the show on your podcast player so you see every new episode whenever it drops and we're only ever one click away first things first though what have you been loving this week Beth so the first thing that I want to say that I was loving I watched a video yesterday and it one really made me laugh and two kind of changed the way that I was thinking about things and it was about kind of efficiency perspective on ways to be efficient and I'm going to say a word to you and I want you to

sort of intuit and guess what you think this word means because that was the subject of this video okay the word is wee wee maxing is it that like finding fun and joy who was that that is really cute that your brain went there. Oui, oui, Maxine is actually... Oui, oui, it's French. Oh, French. Yes, yes. No, it's actually not French at all. Well, French people can do it. It basically means when you want to do something with like greater haste, greater efficiency,

greater productivity, you do them when you sort of need a wee. Like if you do them when you kind of need a piss, you do things, you don't faff around, you do not fanny about, you basically like you make haste, you get shit done done and I don't think I'm going to try it because I live in fear of pissing myself but I saw this video by I think her name was Francesca Gillespie on TikTok and I was like she's actually thinking like wait she's thinking with like every single

cell of her brain do you know what I mean no it's a genius I do this I do this all the time yeah but I didn't know it had a name I thought yeah on purpose so I'll be like I really need a wee and then I'm like you have to reply to that email you know the really basic emails that you don't reply to like sending a file to your accountant or whatever I'm like I really need a wee and I'm like you're not allowed to go for a wee until you do it but I do it with like it's just incentivizing like you're not allowed a baby bell unless you do xyz you're not allowed a wee punishing though isn't it um I don't know you do things so quickly also the loo is never that far away for me I always make sure I'm next to the loo even on a train which I know is kind of rank

I always sit right next to the toilet so I want to know I'm close oh yeah I think it's the anxiety of it I think it's a really smart way of like tricking and coercing yourself into doing things I thought this girl stumbled on you've been wee relaxing for years and only well done I would never have guessed that because I just thought it was going to be something way more sort of highbrow I was like me like say yes that's true you've met me that is what so I didn't that's not my whole thing but that is the thing that I wanted to bring to your attention. You already knew, but for the listeners. The thing I've been loving, it's basically just, I wanted to touch base on a book that I mentioned a few weeks ago,

and I was like four pages in when I brought it to the table, which probably isn't fair. So I wanted to circle back. Now I finished the book, which is So Thrilled For You by Holly Bourne and say, I did love it. I'm glad I read it and I actually would wholeheartedly recommend it to the listeners I wanted to just come full circle that is such a good point I because I did the same within memoriam do you remember and I was like I've literally read like seven pages oh my god was that book fucking unbelievable and I wrote a review on it on my Instagram so you can read that that's a good point because we do sometimes start we never I do do it on Instagram but it could sound like we're just reading like three pages of a book, recommending it and never finishing it. But we do finish them.

That's you done? I think that's me done. Actually, do you know what? I did want to, I have to confess, I've started another fantasy series and I just can't believe that I've done this myself again. This one is not as many books, but I think it's just as long. I've started Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yaros and I don't have time for this. are doing like proper serious book not that it's not serious but it's a little bit like I don't need another kind of romantic but unfortunately I'm doing it is it better than Akatar it's different this one's about like dragon school and apparently apparently it is better it's less smutty more world building but there is some romance in it I mean I'm again I'm four pages in I could abandon it but am I going to that is so funny because the only thing that would draw me

back into the Akital universe at this point because I've been picking some really good books is if it was more smutty then I'd be like I guess I can make yourself marked safe from from fourth wing but I don't want to get into that too much because I do feel quite naughty you tell me now you tell me I think I've got loads but I've actually forgotten what they are but I know what one of them is which is have you watched in fact I'm already spoken about before have you watched am I being unreasonable with Daisy May Cooper on BBC oh yeah we don't think we've talked for this but I have watched love the first series then watch the first series again and the second series all in maybe a day and a half oh it was sick do you love it oh my god I loved it I watched the whole I think it was a Sunday night I can't remember I watched the whole series over the course of an

evening the first series and now I'm like a few episodes into the second series I did not know what it was about so I hadn't read anything about it kind of passed me by so I thought it was going to be a comedy and then it starts getting it's kind of like it's a black comedy but there's so many twists and turns it's the most amazing misdirection it's basically about this woman who is in the beginning you see that her lover gets killed in a really tragic way then the story starts to unfold and the lover isn't necessarily who you think he is and this woman comes in who's like a mysterious character it's really hard not to say too much without giving it away it's tough isn't it i think that was really good i'm obsessed with the son the son the actor who's the son is the cutest person in the world he's so talented like I think the family

dynamics are so good because he is he's a very complex character I think he plays someone who's in maybe last year of primary school so what like 10 11 but like he's got depth I think Daisy May Cooper is amazing and the thing that she said about how like she gets in in between seasons she obviously had some cosmetic work on her face and she's like it's really funny because it's like 45 minutes have elapsed in the action but I've got this whole new phase does she talk about it because I watched it literally one into the other so I literally went from like the series one into series two and it was like when you do it like that it is quite obvious if I hadn't done that with if it'd been like a break but yeah he he is so he's such a funny character like the way

he acts his comedic timing his oh anyway so I've been absolutely loving that it's been a while since I binged something so that was great I did have another recommendation but I actually had two others and I no idea what they were it's been weeks isn't it oh it's so frustrating like it's been weeks since we shared them I was like I'm storing them up for winter I had We We Maxing and a fantasy series I'm not allowed to watch

but anyway that is a great show BBC listeners watch that on BBC and we'll talk about that another time that is really really good okay perfect

well that's what we've been loving the wheels are so off for me and you on our own it's obviously so chaotic like dogs in a playground

so after a wait of just over two years since the airing of season two we are finally finally finally back in the white lotus universe for the third series and i personally could not be happier about this i love this this show. I think it's the perfect antidote to what has felt like a very long and difficult winter. For anyone who needs a reminder, White Lotus is critically acclaimed Emmy Golden Globe winning black comedy series that first aired in 2021. It was created by Mike White who is an actor and filmmaker. You may know him as Ned Schneebly from School of Rock, excellent, also critically acclaimed film. And the series he's created follows the goings on between guests, staff and locals at various locations of a luxury

global hotel chain called White Lotus. The first series took place in Hawaii, the second in Sicily, and the third, which is what we're watching now, is in Thailand. The guests at the hotel this time around include, my favourite, a group of 40-something American women who have been friends since childhood and have what appears to be a mountain of emotional baggage between them. There's also a rich, old-m money Southern family who have adult children who are a little bit too close to each other, shall we say. There's also, again, actually, these might be my favourite, an odd couple between a beautiful Mancunian woman and an older, grumpy American man. There are also returning characters. There's a mysterious celebrity hotel

owner. There's staff who might or might not be bad news. And I've watched the two episodes that are out. I think you have too. It is hitting the spot. It's something actually we've loved on the podcast since the very beginning. And I was thinking when I was watching the show, I think out there in the archives of the show, there was like an early pilot episode where we go really deep about why Lotus that has never been released, never will be heard. So I'm so excited that finally we can talk to the listeners about one of my favourite shows. So confirmed tonight you have watched both episodes of this new series. What are your first thoughts?

Can confirm I've watched both episodes. You've just triggered a memory. We put so much research into that White Lotus pilot episode that I kind of wish we could find it and just put it in here because it was so thorough it went on for so long so yes I've watched the first two episodes obviously like everyone else I was completely jarred by the change of song how did you feel about that oh yeah there's no more the ululating's gone oh I know I've thought about it so much I wonder how much of a conversation they had around that whether or not they thought it was too, like it had become too canon. They wanted to like change up.

Anyway, I actually, in the first sort of like five minutes of the new series was really conscious of the exposition of like how they were putting the characters and introducing them. And it felt almost a bit janky. I like, oh, hello, we've been friends for 30 years. Well, how did we meet? And it felt, I was like, and then I remembered

that's kind of the temperature of the show is it's like, it's quite self-aware and I'd just forgotten. So then once I was immersed back into the universe, I was so in, so down. I'm so obsessed with Amy Lee Wood in this from Sex Education, obviously, and she plays the love interest. I saw a really funny meme actually of her and the guy that plays her partner. And the text over it is like me with the girl that I managed to pull because I knew who Paloma Ball was. Who's that designer? It's so true. So I'm absolutely, I'm really loving it.

The family, the dynamics between Patrick Schwarzenegger and his sister and his brother are really upsetting me. Like I'm finding that very, very stressful. It is a bit incestuous. And I'm glad that other people were talking about it because I was like, am I being weird here? And everyone else was like, no, of course you're not being weird. There's something afoot. There's a tension of the sexual nature between the siblings. Gross.

Patrick Schwarzenegger's character is just such like a sex-phomaniac. He is. He's just trying to like catch bodies or whatever americans say like he's really intent like he was saying it's numbers game that man i hope he doesn't get any sex on this holiday because he's just that typical like republican son heir to the kind of company like father's son it's all disgusting he's obviously very handsome and whatever but he's so vile in this but i think he must be a virgin he's so obsessed with the sister's virginity and the fact that he's like looking at her and he's like objectively she's hot it's like you make me feel sick oh that's fascinating and did you see actually Patrick Schwarzenegger who

plays what's his name Saxon Saxon Ratcliffe in this yeah and he and I'm not gonna get I'm just gonna say it he did come out and had like a nepo baby retort this week which I won't say anything about it we've done it to death but it was your classic like miss the point I work really hard though whatever it was a shame actually because I was like you should have just like carried on because I think he's doing such a good job in this I don't think anyone was like you just got hired because your dad I think people were just enjoying him as this like perfect rich young fuck boy which every series has had one and i think like there was that perfect crystallization of forget his name jake lacey i think is his name the one in the first series that ruined his own honeymoon because he wanted a better room then there was

like adam demarco in the last series who thought he wasn't a fuck boy and that was his undoing and he just immediately became again his father's son when all was said and done and then this one i think it's just a slight twist on it because he is like he's really obsessed with I think like status sex being this like being his father's son but I don't I think it will prove that he has not I think he has not got the character that he thinks he has and I think I don't I think the hot guy is Walton Goggins character but everyone else is saying that Patrick Schwarzenegger is like the eye candy for this series oh god I've so much to say on this first of all I saw such a good tweet about that nepo baby thing which was a really good response it said that I think that

nepo babies are actually a bit misunderstood because all of their friends are so rich that they're like but I do work really hard because they literally are the hardest working person they know because none of their friends have jobs and so when they say I'm working really hard what they don't realize is that is just having a job like they were like he'll be on set at 2am being like I could just be on a yacht and that is kind of true it's all relative they are really brave actually now you've said that yeah and then my second thing I was going to say is I do love that about White Lotus I do love that it's formulaic because it's really satiating the way you're coming back to an old friend you know what to expect but it's ever so slightly different but there are those same kind of formulas we have to talk about the three friends because they make me feel sick because

at the beginning I was like oh my god this is like me and my friends on holiday when they're like I just love you so much that's honestly what me and my girls did in Ibiza and they're like we're so lucky that's what we said in Ibiza and we all got matching horseshoe tattoos and then it descends and I was like oh no I don't hate my friends I don't hate my friends but oh what do you think about them I think it's amazingly put together I think it's quite a slow burn I think I actually think if you're not a woman you might look at it and go I don't know if they've nailed that I think if you're a woman you get that kind of slow creeping dread because it's like I think it's spectacularly written I think so it's the three friends you've

got Jacqueline who is this like she's that famous actress she's appears to be the alpha um going like she's paying for the trip she is kind of the most high status in terms of her career then there's Kate who is like the bobbity bibbity bobbity bob she's a stay-at-home mom has like you know I think a southern life but she's beautiful as well rich glam, glam. And then there's, played by my favourite actress, one of, Carrie Coon plays Laurie, who is the lawyer, who is, of the three of them, I think she's written as the dowdier one, the less glam. She's obviously beautiful, blonde, rich as well, but she's the, I guess, written as the outcast. And it's so deftly done because they are saying all the right things. And then in the margins, it's like,

they're not saying that she's beautiful they turn and they go everything you do is so hard almost as if that's a compliment because she's got this like high power job and just the fact that they are this trio like the triangle very powerful shape very dangerous shape obviously we are a trio on this podcast we have to be careful it's powerful it's solid but also it's fucking pointy I just I really need a lot more time with them you know I mean like it's quite biblical the way that they it's all unfolding and just they're building tension it's good I think it's going to go off and I think it's going to be incredible it goes Sarah I love that idea about the the

hypothesis of the triangle you're like Pythagoras. I am really, really obsessed with Michelle Monaghan, who plays Jacqueline. I mean, she looks unbelievable. She's so gorgeous. But there's this awful bit where they're all like, you look so young. What have you done? They're like, nothing. Tell me your doctor. No, tell me your doctor. And then they're like, oh, I've just had a bit of maintenance. And it's like all of these compliments underneath, they're so spiky. And then in the second episode we got that slow breaking down where carrie coon's character's not there and they're like oh i just love her so much i'm so happy she's here and then they're like isn't she going through a divorce oh actually i don't know if you know shouldn't get that pay

rise and you're like oh my god it's so evil i'm excited because we're still in the introduction phase and i feel like there's loads of characters this time but it is is it as many playing part is it more playing parts than normal? Well, so there's like guest-wise, maybe three or four because there's a group of friends, the Ratliff family, Amy Lee Wood and her older boyfriend and then there's Technique Greg

from previous seasons and his younger girlfriend slash companion. So I guess four, is that four guests? But then there's also Belinda, a returning character who is a functioning guest but she's training there and then there's also belinda returning character who is a functioning guest but she's training there and then there's it feels really expansive actually now i'm thinking of it because there's the hotel staff there's the owner then there's the kind of manager who i don't know if he's going to be he's a fabulous character i don't know if he's actually

going to be in it then there's mook and then there's this like actually it feels like there's a lot of moving parts and maybe that is quite clever because then we don't know where to look in this kind of chess game. And there's just so many clues as well. And I'm like, what is misdirection, Mike White? Like, he's playing with me and it's a game and it's fine. And I'm absolutely loving it. I'm so happy they brought back Greg's character.

When I saw him, I was like, oh my God. That has really tickled me. I need him to be seen to. I know. Not in a sexy way. I need him to be seen too i know not in a sexy way i need him to be taken care of is what i mean well because basically i found myself on the side of tiktok that is predictions and theories and so many of them were absolutely crazy people were convinced in the first episode that it was somehow a prequel that like it was maybe even before hawaii and that belinda was there for another reason and like the

son she's talking to is another son I don't know whether that's been disproved in the second episode but basically people will not wait for evidence they're like I've solved it I know who dies they're zooming in on scenes being like it's here no evil see no evil it's giving me a kind of insanity that is such a good idea but do you have any theories do you like the theories I love the theory of the prequel that is a really good idea I find it so hard to know who's going to get killed because i'm always really bad at guessing these things i'd want it to be greg ideally obviously i think the one that would upset me the most is lachlan who's the younger brother of the son he seems really sweet and he's getting kind of like red pilled by his weirdo, the brother. That would make me sad. I don't know. Would they kill him off? No, I see. Because there's deaths in there,

normally quite funny. They're comical and they're not really like the big retribution normally is like what happens afterwards, the things that people are forced to confront in themselves. But again, maybe he's kind of innocent. So that could happen. But it's normally, normally, I'm like an academic and this is my specialist subject. But it's, you know, there is a kind of hubris to it and there's like a moral arc and it keeps with the theme. Like I think the first one was about like obsession with things and having, the second one was more about lust. This, it seems to be about like spirituality.

So I'm imagining there's a tie in there. I mean, I'm massively overthinking it. It's kind of a runaway train in my head. And I'm like, I just need to solve it it even though I know I don't really want to no I just don't I it does kind of stress me out even though I'm sorry the fact that we don't get all the episodes at once is such a good thing I think for humanity I think that we should this should be forced upon us yeah at the same time I find it very upsetting when I go to click next and there isn't a next and you can't even like save them up no because someone will I

will spoil it for you no I can't because it's too dangerous I want to check back in definitely we will put a poll actually why don't we do a poll on Instagram for you to tell us who you think gets killed I think we should because I don't know I've got no idea oh yeah and also I am an open book for theories as well so just put I've got a white lotus theory and the other's going to void it I will read every single one I'll add it to my like insane I'm like one of those people trying to solve a cold case I've got tape and stuff all over my wall can I say I was reading reviews around this and quite a few people are predicting this is going to be a bit of a dud series or like they're like he's kind of run it's run its course maybe and it is too formulaic like we both said that

we quite like the formula we like to get back in the world some people going we've seen this we've done this they're a little bit bored i read a review in slate by sam adams and he basically said so actually his critique isn't even in its formulaic he said the white lotus began as an upstairs downstairs parable of economic exploitation with a little post-colonial critique as a treat but the third season's native characters are barely an afterthought and i assume he's watched this whole series by this point rather than just what we've watched anyway continue while the series has always both reflected and embodied its characters into the surroundings the third season is especially uninterested in the specifics of its surroundings like the branches of any high-end chain the white lotus's outposts

play up their flashes of local color but underneath there is a promise that the experience will be fundamentally the same wherever you go the show has fallen into the same trap switching up the scenery but retracing its steps it's a beautiful prison but that doesn't mean the walls aren't there which i hated to read as a big fan of the show but maybe there is a little bit of truth there in terms of just where we're at through seasons that is such a good point about the first series it was that was what i remember it was really well it was very of its time as well because it was kind of in the post pandemic which was it 2021 when that came out and so we'd obviously had the like post the murder of george floyd and lots of conversations around like

privilege and white privilege and that featured quite heavily i think in that first season it's an interesting point that that doesn't seem to be but maybe it's because he thinks the audience are aware of the shortcomings or like privileges of the characters I hope he hasn't watched the whole series because there are mentions of people characters going to Bangkok I was thinking we're going to see more of Thailand maybe see how you know you have these beautiful places that people go to that are actually completely propped up by the poor economy of the locals living there. I was imagining that was something that's going to be featured. I would actually be quite disappointed if it doesn't.

Prior to you saying that to me, though, I was like, no, the whole strength of the show is actually in the celebrity actor and actresses or more unknown people that they bring in to the show. And I actually saw a video of Kim Cattrall recently on a red carpet being interviewed. And someone said to her, like, what's the best thing you've ever heard anyone say or something? And she said, my favorite thing ever was, I'd rather give birth to a chair. And that was Maggie Smith. I don't even know what that means,

but she's never had kids. So anyway, I really don't know what that means. But in the comments, everyone was like, get her on White Lotus. And I kind of enjoy that thing of where we're like, oh, some people are just so White Lotus coded. And maybe that's why it has reached its end. When we, as the viewership, are able to cast, direct,

and maybe has drunk its own Kool-Aid. I don't know. I would still watch it until season 11, probably. I mean, we've got a full season coming. That's confirmed. So I think, like, I'm happy to to return I find it very comforting to return and actually it's kind of it's sort of like here's the critique and actually I don't think it needs to be like a death knell just because like okay it kind of is stymied by its own format in that it is set at a hotel it is going to be rich people on holiday is going to be in some way a critique I think there is still a lot of breadth to do different things and you know if it ain't broke you don't necessarily

need to fix it this might just not be the show that people are watching for like hard-hitting critique of you know that upstairs downstairs dynamic and modern capitalism maybe it will just be sort of it's comforting to watch rich people get their slight muffins even if it isn't like totally the rich i like it i love it don't take it from me perfect so from White Lotus to Woody Hamster Teeth we have some White Lotus alumni returning Leo Woodall because she's back. And of course, I'm talking about our beloved Bridget Jones and the fourth film in the series, which is based on the book of the same name by Helen Fielding, Bridget Jones, Mad About

the Boy. I went to see this on Tuesday afternoon in Cheltenham. It was me with my massive Stanley Cup by myself and lots of very fabulous women of a certain age with bottles of rosé. I'm saying of a certain age, so I'm trying to take the piss out of Greg Wallace now. I don't know if that's beyond the pale. Anyway, they all looked amazing. They all looked like they had blow dries and they were getting drunk. I was not prepared for how much sobbing was going to be happening. And so we meet Bridget, just a quick introduction. We meet Bridget as she's getting ready to go out for the evening

and she isn't keen, but her kids, Billy and Mabel, insist that she must go because she said it's the only thing that she would leave the house for and then she calls Daniel Cleaver who is Randy as ever gird your loins boys and girls because Hugh Grant in this film oh my god anyway so he is at some 20-somethings poetry recital a 20-something that he's definitely shagging by the way and he leaves that in his vintage sports car to rush over to Jones's as he calls her but it turns out that the evening is actually the four year anniversary of Mr Darcy's death Bridget's husband and she's going to like a dinner party memorial kind of evening and the film follows Bridget as she navigates life as a widowed single mother in her early 50s and with help from old friends who we know very well who all give her

differing advice and before we get into it Beth because we've kept the powder dry we have not asked each other what we thought I would like to know your full review of the film and then we can swap notes okay so I went I went to probably like a similar screening but I was the lady with the rosé I went with my brother and his fiance and we went in we had a cocktail before we arrived and they went oh you're here for a commute unknown we're like no we're here for the film in like two hours time we will be getting drunk so i had a little cocktail before went in ordered loads of food it was one of those cinemas where they bring in food so inappropriate i love it i got a bottle of wine between us and then at some point another bottle of wine appeared so that is just to give you the context of like

my state of mind my blood alcohol throughout this film it'd been like a wobbly few days I'm giving a lot of context it'd been a wobbly few days like day after valentine's day I had been to my ex-boyfriend's flat to get things and like I just was feeling like quite raw and obviously went to see this sat down I like I nearly my head fell off from crying I cried so so so much I want to like I want to do a cry tally because I just cannot believe how many times I cried. I think I cried seven to eight to nine times, but the film itself, I loved it. Thank God. I was really, really nervous. Bridget Jones means a lot to me, has always meant a lot to me. I just, I returned to her a lot. The franchise is close to my heart. I think with a franchise, you can expect that

they'll get a little worse, a little silly, and that's fine, but I just did not want it to be bad and a scourge on the franchise. It wasn't, I thought it was amazing. I thought the humour kept very much in line with what we'd seen before, but it felt very much like its own thing. It felt like it kind of carved its way out of that. Like you could almost see it. I was thinking of this while I was weeping in the film, like you could see it as like a trilogy. And then this almost as a standalone film that you can if you feel well enough like kind of enter an experience it just had its own orbit the tone of it felt like it just took on these issues remained funny every bit of nostalgia

that I wanted I think was there I was so grateful it felt like it just gave back to us the fans I mean I was fucking seven years old when the first one came out but basically I've grown up with Bridget I love her she matters to me anyway it just was amazing that is my enthusiastic garbled review can you take yours away please I agree I could I was crying from minute two and then I was like oh that's that out the way now and then no there's so many beats for the network also it was embarrassing I also went to one of those cinemas where they bring you food even though I didn't get food because well I was trying to be on a budget but I did my big Stanley cup my water how tragic anyway but I was quite close to the woman next to me and I was trying not to

cry I also had loads of eye makeup on and I was like oh my god I'm sobbing like letting out sounds crying it was so embarrassing what should I think so I agree I didn't love the third film the baby one and that kind of had the energy of the second sex in the city film to me it was like all the component parts then they put them together and it didn't bake a cake it made something like a weird kind of flat flan this had all the markings of a really good Richard Curtis film I mean her house I was just besotted with her house. I was obsessed with how beautiful she looked and how bad they made her look in spite of this.

Like she looked so sexy and gorgeous in the scene where she first meets the Widow's character and is wearing a little shirt with a jumper and jeans and her hair's all on top of her head. And then for some reason, they put on those awful padded bras and cardigans like buttoned in a really weird way. And then her hair's in like a side ponytail

and you're watching like, I know Renée Zellweger is so beautiful but I'm so glad that they've kept Bridget's essence which is like she walks quite weirdly and her skirts and shirts and jackets always like a bit mismatched so there's this like just beautiful energy to it where it is like her charisma the character of Bridget is just so attractive there was so many bits that I thought felt really well thought out and yeah the house for me was actually such a big part it felt almost like the film itself had so many beats to it like I was just expecting the kind of story arc of her meeting the guy that works in Hamster Teeth Leo Woodall's character who's called Rockstar I actually do have some issues with him we'll come on to that in a bit but this that section I was like that's the film

then it has this whole set like next arc and then a third arc if anything actually my only other criticism was at the end it was maybe about like six minutes too long I was kind of getting ready I was putting my coat on I thought we were leaving and it went just because I wanted to rush out in case I had like makeup all down my face anyway so it was quite long but it was they just nailed it I loved all the ways they brought in the characters yeah I love the bit where she's walking around the house and it kind of flashes up you know what people have said to her I just thought I agree it felt very separate but it also it was much much better than anything I could have anticipated even though I'd heard

lots of people saying it was really good I was quite blown away and I was laughing and also had no one to talk to and I wish I didn't at one point I did actually respond out loud to something and I was like I can't do that because I'm not with anyone I was like no you can't or something like that and I was like oh my god I can't it was like my reactions were so I was covering my eyes I'm imagining we're not spoilering here can we spoil can we talk about things yeah we'll see and we'll we'll blank it out because one of the things can we talk about i want to maybe let's try and break it up but one thing i do want to talk about is rockstar leo woodle's character who we meet him and yeah he's really attractive but i had some issues

with him throughout and i wanted to know how you felt with him not with leo woodle with rockstar as a character well so yeah so rockstar is the he's the garbologist that kind of rescues her and her kids from the tree and he's 29 and. And she's like, how old is she meant to be? I mean, yeah, so she started dating a 29 year old. And he's like, I quite liked him and what he represented. I think, as someone who has dated 29 year olds and been 29, I think they did a great job of portraying the kind of brilliant psychological torment that that can be i have got to admit i did go to the loo at the point where they match on a dating app so i came back i was like right i've just got to catch up with this but it's my understanding that he comes on really hot and heavy for her wants to date an older woman and then they have this whirlwind of a relationship i i think because i'm so focused on chiwetel Ejiofor's character and that is to me like the man I have loved him all my life and that is the person I'm rooting

for her to be with he was a bit of an annoyance to me what wait what were your problems with old rockstar well the thing is this is obviously probably intentional but there's a bit where he dives into the pool and I just had the biggest ick you've ever experienced because I was like first of all that dog is already swimming he dives in a pool for context at a party where there's a little dog the dog is swimming the dog is not drowning so you didn't need to dive into the pool I just can't explain to you because what I couldn't work out then I was like he's really sweet and lovely but then he was a fuck boy I suppose but it was just certain bits where I was like this is a bit too but then I suppose that is kind of in the era is very camp there was just bits where I actually I didn't find him as attractive that was probably

intentional I'm trying to remember what else there's just certain things he did where I was like I'm actually quite repulsed by him now did you not get the ick with the swimming pool oh gotcha oh yeah I've totally I got the nod of like oh it's kind of like Mr Darcy it's kind of like the wet t-shirt but I was a bit like oh I think that I wanted to see him in a wet t-shirt certainly but not getting into essentially a fountain and then there's a tiny dog and I was just thinking the logistics of that how annoying like your pants are wet and you're at a party you've not met anyone but that's my problem wouldn't you be mortified though if the person you were dating you'd let no one have met him and then he dives into the swimming pool at a party

drench I would be like oh my god you're gonna have to leave that is so embarrassing like you absolutely center attention maybe it's. I would be like, oh my God, you're going to have to leave. That is so embarrassing. Like you absolutely, centre attention. Maybe it's just I'd be jealous that they'd have to centre attention. I don't know, but that really made me cross. Can you enlighten me? Is Mr. Wallacher, is he English or American in real life? Because what else has he been in? He's been in so much stuff. Well, he's in Love Actually, which is what I guess I probably first saw him in.

And he's English in that. He was in, because I've seen him in so much stuff, I actually don't, I think he's English. Mr. Wallacher, in and he's English in that he was in because I've seen him in so much stuff I actually don't I think he's English Mr. Wallacher I think he's English he was in 12 Years a Slave he was in

he's been in he's actually very good he's in loads of stuff I don't know why I thought he was American he's gorgeous oh I'm sorry he's so gorgeous

and he's so good in this I think because obviously very beautiful man really just sexy but manages to for the first bit of the film kind of cloak that by being like the body language and the whistle and being like this really like kind of stern jobsworth teacher like obviously a very good

teacher but like he kind of buries that in the qualities he's quite prickly to bridget and whatever and so by the time she sees him in a different light and I won't spoil when or how this happens but you start to see as well and you're kind of like oh okay okay do you know what the other guy maybe is a clown maybe you do need this man who like is all the nice things and is actually really solid I think this unlocked something in me and I think I've actually realized I've been in love with him my whole life at least since Love Actually oh my god he is so gorgeous my other standout edition because obviously we go back and we revisit like all of her original friends from the original film

and her parents future and Emma Thompson's character as her gynecologist is absolutely amazing but I am obsessed with so I think it's Leila or Laila Farzad I am obsessed with her character I really like it was like the best of the best of Brits there was also like Rosie Holt who's like a really funny online comedian and she was like an extra part I thought it was really clever the tie-in it was it was such a feast I thought it had it was like a really weird thing where it almost felt like a sitcom like four episodes of a sitcom rather than a film yeah I was like this is going to be either like an issues film in that like it's a widow dating after that or it's going to be like really horny or it's going to be about motherhood and it just does it all I was like

surely they're not balancing this as well as they are and they were I think they did an amazing job because the crying like I laughed quite a lot probably not as much as they do in the first film but I laughed quite a lot despite the fact that I was like leaking the entire time my face was absolutely soaking I was sort of taking back sobs it was it was just so deft like I want to talk about the the widowhood of it because I think it's quite an unusual angle to do a film like this it's a comic film they've just killed perhaps one of the most beloved male romantic leads in British history if not global history and yet they kind of forge ahead and like I'm rooting for her to be with someone else I'm rooting for her to get laid but I'm also like so aware like this is a widow it just made me think

of like our attitude to widows versus widowers and actually that like historic idea of like, well, you just retire from sexual life. People think of women in their 50s anyway. You are done, you know, just shuffle to the back of family photos, put on your drab clothes and just like give it up. Whereas the message of this film, what does she write in her diary?

It's like time to live or something. I can't remember what it is, but it really moved me. You can't just be like, he quotes Harry Styles. It's really funny. Yeah, it's something like you have to live you can't it's not this but it's something like you can't just be alive you have to live basically yeah it made me think of do you know Kelsey Parker I mean I think maybe she goes by her maiden name now which I apologize I don't know but she was married to Tom Parker from The Wanted who who died very young. She was his wife, mother of his kids. And this was a few years ago now.

And she is now in another relationship and she's pregnant. And this abuse she gets, because she's sort of a public figure as well, the abuse she gets for having kind of not moved on, not forgotten, but is continuing her life is absolutely mad. I think she talked about taking off her rings after a certain number of years, is now having a child. And like, it's basically just like living, loving, growing her family, looking after her kids

and like being happy in the world. And people cannot stand it. And I just think it speaks like a real hangover that we have in the culture about how we view wives and widows. And I'm not saying it would necessarily be better if it was a man. I think it would probably be really weird about that because we're weird about death I don't know I just find

it and I found it really a hopeful film because it is like well shit this can happen at no point in life is everything fixed forever you can decide like I'm gonna hang up sex and love and romance and trying but if Bridget Jones hasn't I don't know it just gave me a lot of hope for the future in a very uncertain world and it just made me think of how, I don't know. It just gave me a lot of hope for the future in a very uncertain world. And it just made me think of how we actually don't treat widows well. And we don't really have a lot of stories about them that aren't like really dire. So I liked it from that angle as well.

So I've got a couple of things. With the widow thing, we definitely do treat male widowers differently than women. There are quite a few male widowers I can think of. And I don't want to say them because I just think it's like whatever, but men who have moved on

after the death of their wives famously and been very well supported and you just reminded when you're talking about Kelsey Parker I remember this the outrage people saying it was disgusting with men it's more like I'm so glad that he's found someone I'm so happy that he's got someone to look after his kids especially when there's children involved I do think that you're right people are like oh thank god that she's taking the kids whatever we have really weird attitudes it. In terms of like the not giving up sex thing in later life, it was so funny because I was watching it and it made me think of baby girl. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited for this period of my life. Like they just made me think that, you know, being at that age is really fun. And then I realized what it was is in my head, I now associate

being like in your fifties with getting with Harris Dickinson and Leah Woodall. And I was like, you can't even get with them now at 30. So you're going to be able to get in my head i've done this weird like i've suddenly been thinking it's like my brain's gone oh when you're 50 that's when movie stars a-list movie stars will be getting with you and i was like god i was wondering when it's gonna happen i was like that is not gonna happen this is a film you can still obviously like meet people and date people but it's just, I done this weird, like retroactive calculation and like really, I was getting quite comforted by it.

And then I was like, wait, no, you're yeah. I was genuinely like, this is when it's going to happen for me. Like in my fifties, I was like,

Oh no, actually I wouldn't hold out like on that basis because I don't think this is happening to every woman. I think it's probably quite unusual. But it will happen to us. I've just got 20 years to wait I don't know if I could it was so funny because someone messaged me on Instagram and they were 26 and I was with my friend Poppy and I was like oh I just could never she was like oh my god no

26 is so young we were like oh and then we were like wait that is so funny because no man in a million years would ever think that I'm only 30 26 is no too old maybe it's like yeah exactly but we were both like oh no and I was like oh they're really good looking whatever that was like that's too gross like I feel like they're my child and then so I don't know if at 50 I could do 28 but maybe I could do 34 34 yeah I was gonna say like around that time would be great this is a I mean it's a cautionary tale of the ups and downs of dating a 29 year old man not that he's you know no spoilers not that he was a bad man but like it's tough it's hard work i think whether you're 29 yourself or whether you're bridget jones's current age so yeah let's

just stick we'll just stick to 34 and above apart from if we're on holiday and then i think maybe you can have 27 as a treat. Do you know what I mean? I agree. Basically everyone that I've seen is being really positive about it, but I did see one bad review in the Manchester Evening News, which read,

in one part of the film, it shows the three of them, referring to Bridget and her kids, releasing balloons with letters attached that they've written for their dad. With the environmental impact of balloon releases, widely known, it's caused anger amongst moviegoers,

some of whom have said they wouldn't have gone to watch it if they'd known that this happens in the film. And not to be like that woke, but I'm not joking. When I watched it, I genuinely thought, I can't believe they put this in. Did you think that? I might have been in the toilet for this bit. Again?

Yeah, because it's a bit... Was it not the same bit? I was fucking in. I mean, do you heard how many wines I had um I can't remember this bit but again that could be the one it's towards the end I think I probably would have been the same because it really whenever I see on social media you can't comment obviously when people are doing something gorgeous for a loved one but you kind of want to go this is lovely but here's some alternatives that are eco-friendly because don't they like

do they kill cows yeah but is it those ones that kill cattle yeah but do you know what's so funny this it's gonna sound really weird that's kind of what i think the film got right is that it was true to bridget there was certain things she was saying like they weren't super woke which i think is where maybe with the bridget jones's baby i think i don't know if they've gone a bit too sorry it sounds like i don't like wokeness i love wokeness in its true sense what i mean is oh god i actually don't know do you know what i'm saying it was like it was true to the character it wasn't I think I did it wasn't like overly self-conscious to appease it's like sometimes we have to be immersed in a character's world and that means including truths of that character and I think Bridget Jones would absolutely not know that releasing a balloon like she's really well read and she knows stuff but she's in her

50s she doesn't care like I think if you ask my mom would she know about a balloon probably not there were other bits in the film as well which i just thought were like that rings true oh we haven't even spoken about tandy newton's daughter oh of course who plays the nanny kind of super nanny we need return this conversation has no structure i know this is a stream of consciousness spoken word poem i think the point is there are so many parts of this film that you go surely like so many spinning plates but i do think that they keep them in the air and maybe like on the topic of bridget being bridget i think there's so much to say about that and also like does she remain our good old-fashioned bridge because that's the point she's kept millennial women especially company for the

last almost 25 years I think there's a lot of protectiveness around her and I think there is I think you're right Bridget Jones's baby I will watch it but it was a bit of a swing and a miss this I think felt very very much like our bridge my bridge women's stories matter I might have to maybe I have to re-watch Bridget Jones's baby again because I thought it was a flop but maybe it wasn't it's fine so it's interesting because we were discussing like the Bridget Jones universe together you and I and it sort of like occurred to us in real time they're like we are now about at the age of Bridget in the first film I think she's 32 in the movie maybe 33 in the book can't confirm And then the film came out in 2001 when I was eight-ish.

I don't know when in the year it came out. You would have been like six, seven-ish. So probably I watched it pretty soon after that. It's fascinating now to have reached the age that Bridget was. And by fascinating, I mean like bone chilling, it's terrifying. And be kind of in media adjacent jobs. We were both living in London. We are single I think I'm dealing with that kind of early 30s crisis of loneliness not knowing what I want to do with my

life feeling like everyone else is figuring it out I also have these enormous pants and I kind of feel closer than ever to Bridget Jones I feel like she's embodying kind of what I'm doing and I see it all differently now I could watch it before and be like oh she's lovable but tragic now I feel like she's embodying kind of what I'm doing and I see it all differently now I could watch it before and be like oh she's lovable but tragic now I'm like hang on a minute is she actually doing fantastic and just a victim of the world so I just want to discuss you know I kind of look back at Bridget like do you feel similarly to me do you kind of look at Bridget Jones now not necessarily as an aspirational character but maybe more like a sister in arms versus like a comic figure do you know what I mean totally and I think do you know what's so funny is I had

I was armed coming into my 30s with so much information about like I even did the whole part on adulting about timelines everyone's time is different and then I got to 30 went through a big breakup and suddenly I was like oh my god everyone is trying to get pregnant I am single I'm also now like not earning as much money I don't think I can afford to live in London and I started to feel the fear I I got the panic years. I was like suddenly very self-conscious about my age to the point of embarrassment. I was kind of like, why do you care? You've like literally prepared yourself at this moment and you're falling victim to it. And I suddenly then felt really grateful for Bridget and Sex and the City because actually

these women are so fabulous. And also it's really, really common, but we are made to feel like we are these like social pariahs who really failed. And I actually saw, not to keep referring to memes, a really funny meme that was like, there'll be a single 30-year-old woman who'd be like, oh my God, I don't know what I'm doing. And she's like set up a business, has organized this, has taken herself on a solo trip.

She's done all of these things. It's like, babe, you do know what you're doing. And I think it's the kind of the same with Bridget. Like she has her ambitions. She knows her desires. She would be quite happy if she wasn't getting fucked over by men she's got an amazing set of friends I love her borough flat I love that they walk past it in this film and he's like do you know this area there's a really good restaurant and she's like oh I used to know I used to live around here and they literally walk past the front

door it's really cute do you remember that bit or were you too drunk oh no I do remember that bit and I was kind of like I was just looking being like yeah yeah yeah yeah I yeah I know that one I wouldn't go you know there's like a restaurant in there I wouldn't go to that I don't think I'm that but whenever I do walk past in Borough Market I kind of look over longingly I'm like I've got a friend she used to live there um I do that is the thing that people always bring up how she's basically doing fantastically by any standard but of course she's like a size 10 and everyone's like, and single and everyone's like, oh, you poor old bitch. And it is, I think, a bit depressing to watch from a modern standpoint, because none of us even have any of those markers now, like a zone one flat, a decent job. She's there smoking ciggies, watching VHS, like what I would kill to be living that life. So it's kind of a bit depressing, but I do love that she is 30 plus. She's making those mistakes. She still believes in love. She's basically been fucked around. She keeps getting fucked around by the Daniel Cleavers of the world, who, by the way, I'm so glad he gets a redemption arc and we get

to love him. She like believes in love. She's like fiercely protective of her friends. She sees that she can start over again and again and again and I was like do you know what I don't need to be as jaded as I am at age 31 I actually don't need to go well I guess it's all over for me that I can just brush it off and be like I'm not done with my learning yet the way that she does I like I do think I want to be more Bridget I find her quite empowering I've just learned a lot of people think she's like a bad feminist she's like a bad feminist hero I'm like I want to be Bridget Jones but maybe that's really problematic I want to be Bridget Jones well I guess in the original book she's like a product of her environment also if you haven't read the book you do really need to read it the first film but it is all written in

that like I've not I've not read it because it is just written like as the story format like she lists this people's issue with it was of course that she would list her weight and then she would like talk about how many cigarettes she smoked blah blah blah and there probably are lots of comment i mean there's loads of rife misogyny this film again it has this really light touch of commenting on that where there's a bit of misdirection where she thinks someone's kind of like making a sexual harassment to her like a couple of times and they're like what no i'm not talking about that so there's it's it's really funny where it kind of, it nods to things that, you know, times have changed and she's evolved

and the world's changed, but it's not heavy handed. And I thought that was handled really, really well. I think the writing this film was spectacular. I think as well, it's that nostalgia of, it's a time that we never lived through, which is no smartphones, everyone going to the pub after work.

Ciggies were good. Ciggies were good. Drinking wasn't bad for you. Everyone was hungover. People probably did work literally from 9 till 5 and from 4pm were drinking so I'm like god I wish we were alive during the era of alcoholism

I'm like knowing all the problematic bits I'm like she's basically taught to hate herself the first film's about like workplace harassment lest we forget there should have been a tribunal and we were there going go on girl everyone like she's the first film's probably workplace harassment lest we forget like there should have been a tribunal we were there going go on girl um yeah i mean i'm definitely romanticizing it but i'm kind of happy to do that i think because it's not like we're going back in

time like i do need to escape a little bit from this present moment because it's about march i quite like to escape back into that and just think i'll get drunk my mates her whole spanks thing like her big knickers she could have so been like wearing skims in this film. You know, that's kind of come back around, the big knicker situ. She did have a little big knicker bit. Yeah, she did have a big knicker bit. I don't know. It's funny, isn't it?

Because I agree. I remember everyone would be like, if someone called you Bridget Jones, you'd think that's tragic. And actually someone, I think a couple of people commented, I did this like TikTok dating thing. And everyone's like, oh my God, she's like Bridget Jones and I was honoured I was like that is the biggest compliment but I wouldn't have thought that when I was 17 I would have been like no no I think as I get older I appreciate more and more like the imperfect heroine and a character who's basically not like imperfect then becomes self-actualized and slim and happy and she's made it but like the character that basically she gets happier she gets older and wiser in a lot of ways but she stays what's it they call her like the

frazzled english woman she remains messy around the edges i think we had we kind of not overcorrected because we need complex dark female characters they exist they're fantastic some of my favorites but i kind of think she's not like laden with trauma she's not got the kind of demons that require intense therapy but she's just like a woman in the world, like interesting, layered and flawed. And I think we do need the ordinary muddling characters as much as we need the kind of really

dark and twisty characters. And I think, yeah, frazzled English women, I would love more. I guess there's not really, you could never do Bridget as well as Bridget. So I guess it's kind of singular, but I kind of do love that kind of area of womanhood a lot as I get realised my life is like that. You're so right about her not having the deep trauma and even the fact that she's a

producer on a successful TV show rather than like the host. And she's not underprivileged and like she's always kind of doing okay. It's kind of kind of as you say it's the things that preoccupy her are so universally understood and it's actually really comforting not to have those deep layers of trauma I actually really agree I hadn't really thought about that but I was thinking about that when I think about her being a producer and I was like I like the fact that she's she's never the hottest in the room but she kind of always is because she's just so beautiful and charismatic and there is a bit a little speech that Mr Wallach's character gives her. Actually,

Leah, I think does it as well, which is just basically about this effect she has on people. And I think that is true of everyone. I think that is the truth that when people like you, you are this dazzling, shining, bright star in their lives.

And actually it's about your, they're like the, what are you pissing yourself about? You said shite brining and it really made me laugh. And I was like, I forgot you could see me. so I was having a little giggle at shite brining I didn't know you said that so much get back in now right shining star it basically you know what I'm you know what I'm trying to say because I think that's true of everyone it's like when you adore someone they are just and she is and we will have all of these like lovable people in our lives

that we just once you start to love them they become the most gorgeous people anyway I we we we need we do we do but do you know what on that I was thinking the other day like if you go to a bar with your friends you'll see this just look around the person who gets hit on the most in public is not the person who is literally glantonized looks the best it is the person that is like open it's a person that is laughing loudly who will make eye contact who will be a bit silly and I think it embodies an energy that we can all have and I really don't want to bring this up at the end of this because it's quite negative but I read something really scathing about Bridget Jones that actually like you know when something annoys you so much you need to tell everyone about it so they can be annoyed too I read a piece in the telegraph by

Poppy Platt and she wrote like an article about basically how Bridget Jones is not the feminist icon that British women deserve. And actually she's like self-hating and chaotic and actually unrelatable. And she writes this line. And I think it was really interesting to basically see from the other side why people maybe don't feel as strongly as I do about Bridget Jones, because I, as evidenced here, feel really strongly. But she she writes with her interfering parents babyish whisper of a voice and tendency to second guess every single decision she makes jones comes across more like a frightened teenager than an empowered 30 then 40 then 50 something her feminism is inherently selfish too her only goals are self-promotion or self-improvement summed up by

a smarmy circle of upper middle class friends and in the latest film her second slice of jaw-dropping prime real estate on Hampstead Heath because of course and I was reading this and I just thought I would never have got that I mean because one I don't see her as aspirational in the way that I'm like she gets it she is she's wise like she's not made I I like that she is a complete mess and so I read that and I had to share it with you when did she say she was like a feminist like I don't know this is it as well because also the thing is we feel relatable to her because we are middle-class white women who lived in London and so yes there is an element where she is insulated by her privilege but I think we've come to a point where we can allow

as long as other stories exist to for that to exist in its true form which is what this film did I think in its retelling which is like what this film did i think in its retelling which i think we went through a time where we tried to make every character also everything to everyone and it made everyone really flattened whereas i think what's great what they done this film is like what would actual real life bridget if this was a 51 year old woman living in a fucking massive house because her widowed husband was making absolute money doing like loads of money being a humanitarian aid lawyer how is she living her life and I think it's true to that and I don't see her as a feminist icon but I do see her as like a comforting storyline I mean now that you've

read me that review I'm like god there's so many ways we angles we could have attacked this with like whatever but I think if you let Bridget exist as Bridget within a within a cosmos of millions of different stories about millions of different lives lived, then it's a really well-rounded full picture of a life that I find very endearing and very interesting, very comforting. But I'm not looking to her to be like a feminist icon who I'm aspiring to be like. I'm just glad to know that she exists in her sort of buffoonish, affable, lo lovable nature and I think the real point of the story is that everyone is lovable to someone as long as you just be yourself and

obviously if we wanted to there are ways we could chop this up and dissect it but I think the crux of it is it's it's not that deep I'm not yeah I'm so glad that we didn't almost I know I dropped it in at the end but I'm so glad we didn't carve her open and dissect it. Because actually, yeah, I think that is actually the fundamental takeaway. It's not that deep. It did feel that deep actually, though, when I was snotting and weeping and howling into my loaded cheesy fries. Please, though, let us know your thoughts on this, I think, final instalment in the Bridget Jones universe. And if you haven't seen it, please go to cinemas and watch it immediately. Oh, can I just say, do you know

what? Do you know in America, it didn't get a theatrical release? They just stuck it on Peacock. That's shocking. Is that not shocking to you? They don't like that. That's another thing I want to ask. Very shocking. Americans listening, do you not really like Bridget Jones? I'm sure that they would. And I know there's a lot of quite bad things happening in America and this wouldn't fix it, but I do think they do deserve, they at least bloody deserve this. So Universal, whoever's distributing this, it's not too late. Mend your mistakes or we'll fly some people out here and we'll all go to cinema together. Thank you so much for listening. Remember, as well as these Friday episodes, you can also listen to us every single Wednesday, which is when we release Everything in Conversation, where we do interviews with

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