Exploring My Strange Bible - Feasting and Fasting (Remastered)

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

Practicing Faith E2 — In the lives of Jesus and the apostles, we discover the twin practices of fasting—-that is, withholding food from yourself for an intentional reason for a period of time—an...d also feasting and celebration in community. What are these practices and how do they work together? In this second of three teachings on Christian practices, Tim explores the meaning of feasting and fasting and why it’s important to have both. Tim gave this message at Door of Hope Church in Portland, Ore., on August 3, 2014. OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT View this episode’s official transcript. REFERENCED RESOURCES Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here. SHOW MUSIC “Nob Hill Instrumental” by Drexler SHOW CREDITS Production of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Aaron Olsen edited and remastered today's episode. JB Witty writes our show notes. Powered and distributed by Simplecast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Hey everybody, I'm Tim Mackie, and this is my podcast, exploring my strange Bible. I am a card-carrying Bible history and language nerd who thinks that Jesus of Nazareth is utterly amazing and worth following with everything that you have. On this podcast, I'm putting together the last 20 years worth of lectures and sermons where I've been exploring the strange and wonderful story of the Bible and how it invites us into the mission of Jesus and the journey of faith. And I hope this can all be helpful for you too. I also help start this thing called The Bible Project.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We make animated videos and podcasts and classes about all kinds of topics in Bible and theology. You can find all those resources at Bibleproject.com. With all that said, let's dive into the episode for this week. All right. Well, this episode is part two of a three-part series. It represents a number of teachings I did back when I was a pastor at Door of Hope about some of the key spiritual practices. that have marked the life habits of followers of Jesus from all spiritual church traditions throughout most of church history.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And that's because they're actually grounded in the life and teaching of Jesus and the apostles that we find in the New Testament. And so this is a teaching about the twin practices and habits of fasting that is withholding food from yourself for a symbolic and intentional reason and period of time, but also the habit of the opposite of intentional feasting and celebration because of one's commitment to Jesus. So what are these habits? How do they balance with each other? What do they each mean?
Starting point is 00:01:52 And why is it important to have both going on in some kind of rhythm in your life? So that's what this teaching explores. I hope it's helpful for you. Let's go for it. We're in the middle of this series called Spiritual Symmetry. and we take in the second half of the summer and we're exploring what have been the habits, the practices that marked the life of Jesus, that marked the life of the earliest followers of Jesus and Christians throughout history, the habits and the practices that have made their lives
Starting point is 00:02:34 what they are, lives marked by growth and transformation. And in terms of the heart of the series and what's behind it, I think there's been an analogy that's come to my mind that's kind of helped me get my mind around why we're doing this. And maybe think of a couple that's been married a long time that you know and that you really respect, you really look up to them. It seems like they have just a really powerful connection and they've been together a really long time. And odds are, if, you know, you were to go, like, talk to them and, like, you know, look under the hood of their relationships, so to speak, the odds are very high that it didn't. just happened randomly, you know. Odds are that there have been years of this couple
Starting point is 00:03:15 intentionally making choices to weave habits into their life and their calendars and so on about how they spend time together and how they recreate together and talking and just habits, actual practices, things that they do that isn't just magic romance, because you know that only lasts about a year. So however long it lasts, you know, and then it's sort of like just the day do they have life together. And this is true in relationships in general. Habits and practices, rhythms and routines in a healthy relationship actually serve to keep the connection vital. And it's no different in being a Christian. Just think of a Christian. Somebody that you look up to is a Christian. They've been a Christian for a long time. They're just super wise and they're godly
Starting point is 00:04:00 and they act like Jesus all the time and you're just like, holy cow, who is this person? The odds are very high. If you peek under the hood of their life, so to speak, that you will see an intentional series of habits or practices that this person engages in to keep that connection vital and real in their journey of following Jesus. And so that's what this series is about. It's about what are these practices? And there's actually not very many.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And there's actually a lot of similarities, the more people's lives you look at through history. And so we're looking at Jesus, the New Testament, and the historic practices of the church for this very purpose, keeping this connection vital with Jesus over time. So today we're going to look at the biblical and historic practices of feasting and fasting. Feasting and fasting.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So choosing not to eat or choosing to eat a whole bunch with friends and family. And just obviously they're very different. They're completely opposite behaviors. But in biblical perspective, both of these choices to not eat or to eat a whole bunch with friends and family, These are capable of being deeply spiritual experiences if they get woven into a series of habits and practices over a long period of time. Now, let me just say a caveat, I should never do this as a teacher, preacher, whatever it is that I'm doing right now. I'm going to be the most emotionally
Starting point is 00:05:23 moving message that I've ever given in my life. But I've been waiting for this day to heave this message on you because particularly fasting is I have come to see an area of just being a Christian that I now see that I have actually misunderstood, deeply misunderstood for a lot of years. And because I've misunderstood it, I just haven't really done it. I thought it was odd. I thought it was kind of weird. And I've done it sporadically. And even when I'm doing it, and I'm wondering why it is that I'm choosing not to eat for a long period of time. Like, what's this really about? And I had some reasons that I thought were kind of whatever. But, you know, when Josh said, we're going to do the series. And oh, you should do the message on fasting. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:04 dang it, you know, dang. Because now I have to, like, think through it and, like, read about it and learn and, like, just study everything the Bible has to say about it. And I just, I don't know what to do, but at least now we're all going to not know what to do after I've done talking, right? So just to put that ball in your court. Fasting's kind of a normal part of how you are a Christian and you've woven that end your life.
Starting point is 00:06:26 That's awesome. I really look up to you. That's not where I'm at, but it's where I realize I need to be. Okay, that's my little cog out. Luke chapter four. Let's just dive right in and see what happens here. Luke chapter 4. Now we looked at this chapter a couple weeks ago when we looked at Jesus' practice of solitude.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I just want us to pay attention to something before we read the first sentences of Luke four, just to remind you, we did this a couple weeks ago. So Luke 4 is after Luke chapter. Hey, right, we're not learning anything. So what is at the end of Luke chapter 3? Is he a long list of names? Luke provides us a genealogy, a heritage of genealry. a heritage of Jesus. And right before that genealogy is a crucial story in the life of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And it's the story of his baptism by John the Baptist in the Jordan River. And so this is the story where Jesus is kind of ushered on to the stage of history in public for everyone. This was a crucial moment, this baptism in Jesus' story. Every single one of the four accounts of Jesus' life in the New Testament, has this moment narrated for us, and in the story, it's the key hinge, because after this moment of Jesus is publicly kind of recognized and identified as the son of God, and the voice from heaven, the Father, and the love from the Father is communicated through the Spirit, and it's the three-and-one God stuff going on, and then from this moment forward, Jesus moves on into his mission to announce and bring the kingdom of God and so on.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But the first thing that Jesus does, right after this significant life direction-shaping movement, first thing Jesus does is in chapter 4, which is not going to public, just the opposite. We're told in chapter 4 that Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, he left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, where for 40 days he was tempted by the devil, and he ate nothing during those days. and at the end of them, he was hungry. Yes, yes, he was, right? You eat nothing for 40 days. I joked about this couple weeks ago, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:08:37 This is quite bizarre behavior. If you had any friend of yours who, you know, I maybe had a powerful kind of spiritual experience or was really impacted by a gathering, a church or something, and then just said, hey, I'm going to East Oregon, taking no food with me for 40 days, see you later. You know, you would be really concerned. You would do an intervention or something like that.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It was very bizarre. But that's precisely what Jesus does. He takes off, he has this life-defining moment, right, of the river, the presence, the power of the Father and the Spirit. And this is going to set a trajectory for the next three years leading right up to the cross and the resurrection. And the first thing Jesus does is go be by himself and not eat for 40 days. Don't be like weird Bible person like, oh, he's Jesus. He does stuff like that. Like, no, that's weird. Like, why did he do that? 40 days without eating? Why would anybody do that? That's strange, right? And if you don't think that's strange, it's just shows that you're just used to the Bible or whatever, which is great. That's good, but it's strange. Like, it's weird. Why would somebody do that? And why Jesus does this? There's a number of reasons, I think. And the first thing to pay attention to is, that he's actually not the first person to have done this in the story of Israel. He's actually the third.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He's the third of the great prophets of Israel who, after a very powerful, significant moment, a sacred moment, retreats to the wilderness or to go be by themselves for 40 days without eating at all. Jesus is the third of a series of prophets to do this. Can you guess the first? Remember the first? It's good Bible trivia. Anybody? everybody. Moses. Moses, so allow me to show you on a handy, dandy little chart right here.
Starting point is 00:10:27 The practice of fasting of not eating for 24 hours, a few days or whatever or longer, the practice of fasting is mentioned about 30 times in the Bible, 30 stories or 30 passages that mentioned fasting. The very first one, first person to fast in the whole Bible is Moses. There it is, Exodus 34. And God empowered Moses to free and lead the Israelites out of slavery and to come to the foot of this mountain, Mount Sinai, and God's personal presence and glory came down on the mountain and cloud and thunder and so on. And then Moses alone goes up the mountain
Starting point is 00:11:01 directly into God's presence, and the Ten Commandments and that whole thing. You've seen the movie. What does Moses do as a response to going up into God's presence? He doesn't eat for 40 days as he's there in the presence of God on the mountain. The prophet Elijah, you may be familiar with the story. Elijah lived at a time when most of the... Israelites were not following Yahweh at all.
Starting point is 00:11:22 They were following after a Canaanite God named Bail or Baal. And so Elijah thought this was just unbearable. And so he challenged all the prophets of this God to a showdown on this malacob. Do you know this story? It's kind of one of the famous biblical stories. And so there's a God appears by fire to consume a sacrifice and so on. And everyone's like, oh, holy cow, God just showed up in a big way. And what is Elijah's response?
Starting point is 00:11:47 after that major appearance of God's presence, he retreats into the desert to fast for 40 days. And Jesus does exactly the same thing. The father, sorry for the, man, we just, every time the formatting just isn't quite right. Anyway, Jesus' father, no, the father's supposed to be over there. So the father reveals Jesus at the Jordan River. But the whole point is that just look at this.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Look at this right here. So whatever you think about fasting or whatever you think you know about fasting, just kind of put that aside for a moment, and let's just look here. And if all we had were these three stories about fasting, about somebody in the Bible not eating, what would we learn about the purpose or meaning of this practice, this very ancient practice?
Starting point is 00:12:32 So are we told that Jesus is praying about anything in particular? Are we told that Jesus is asking for anything? Is he asking God for anything? Are we told that in Luke for? No. Does Elijah ask for anything? in the desert there does Moses? You read these stories, and as they're fasting for 40 days,
Starting point is 00:12:53 there's nothing they're trying to accomplish. I think many of us, if you have any perception of what fasting is about at all, it's certainly the perception that I had from my kind of exposure to it or whatever, is that fasting is this thing that you do when, like, there's something really crazy or critical or important happening in your life. There's some prayer request that you need an answer to, and I need to show God that I'm really serious and that I really mean it, I mean it, I mean, I mean it, so I'm going to not eat. God, you better like make something happen here. Or, you know, that's kind of a caricatured way of talking about it. But I think that's the way most of us think about fasting. It's a results-oriented view. I'm going to do this to show God I'm serious so that he will answer my prayer. And that is not at all what's going on here. In fact, these guys aren't trying to accomplish any result. What you see is just the opposite. So maybe think of it, think of it this way.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I think what's happening here in this story, all of them have this in common, that all of these people had a powerful experience of God's presence in their lives. I'm going to call that a sacred moment, a unique moment or event or season in their lives that was marked by an awareness of the presence of God, a sacred, holy presence, and that this was a life-shaping, transforming. experience. And then what you see in each case is that fasting, choosing to not eat, is a response to that sacred moment. It's a response. Now, there are sometimes in the 30-some-odd examples of fasting in the Bible where after someone responds to a sacred moment by fasting, that something remarkable happens. There is a result. And we're going to look, I want to show you examples of this. But there are just as many cases where people are fasting, and they're not asking God for anything at all, which shows that the heart of what this practice is all about
Starting point is 00:14:58 is actually not about trying to get results. The heart of this practice is about somehow having a physical embodied experience in some way trying to respond and process what on earth just happened to me and what I sense that God is up to in my life. And as I, you know, read and learned about fasting and really looked at all the examples in the Bible, one, I was just disappointed that it's taken me 18 years as a Christian to figure this out. I was like, dang it, really? Okay. Well, here we go. It's always a new day, you know, so let's just move forward. I realize that this is a, this is a really profound and meaningful practice, who's clearly very meaningful to Jesus. And And fasting has been like a staple, just a regular habit of Christians throughout history.
Starting point is 00:15:52 In terms of modern church history, I was astound to know this. It's the church in America in the last 100 years that has primarily just stopped the practice of fasting in a widespread consistent way. It was just most Christians around most of the world for most of history have thought that this is a crucially important part of being a disciple of Jesus. And that was news to me. And if it's news to you, there you go. Now you can see why I've been so bothered all week long.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So here's what I want to do. Again, this won't be emotionally moving talk. But all the examples of fasting, if you look at them all, you can kind of put them into three buckets. And as you look at the three types, there's three big types of situations, why people fast, what are the reasons behind it, what are the meanings behind it?
Starting point is 00:16:39 And as you look at all three of those, which we're going to do just for a few minutes, this is a really significant practice. I think, were I to adopt it, which I have a plan to, it seems to me this could be a very meaningful, significant practice in our lives. There's no one passage in the Bible that defines why you fast, or that tells you the meaning of it. What you have to do is look at all of the places that people do it and look at the circumstances of why and when and what are the reasons, what are the meaning. And as you reflect on that, then you can kind of make some big picture observations and what it means for us.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So that's what we're going to do, and then we're going to look at feasting connected to it. You guys ready for action? So what we see here is this pattern. These three guys, they fast as a response. God's presence becomes real and tangible to them. There's a sacred moment, and their response is to simply not eat. And all three of these fit into a larger pattern that actually there's a number of other examples of it. And this is what I call the crossroads moment fast, or the defining moment fast.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And here's another example in Acts chapter 13. I'll read it, and then we'll kind of reflect on it. So we read, while the church at Antioch was worshipping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, set apart from me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I've called them. So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and then sent them off. here's a church, this local church community, you know, that meets in the city of Antioch, and they are doing their weekly worship and so on that also involves fasting, because, you know, that's just what Christians do, right? They just fast.
Starting point is 00:18:21 That's just a part of what it means to be a Christian. It's just presented as an assumption here. And then we're not told how, but we're told somehow the Holy Spirit begin to influence this community or people in this community so that it became clear two guys in the midst. of this church community, Paul and Barnabas, they have a whole new chapter of their life that's about to open up. There's these two people, Paul and Barnabas, they have come to a crossroads moment in their lives. And the Holy Spirit indicates that. They all become aware of that. And so what's their response to the fact that Paul and Barnabas are at a defining movement and they're about to start a
Starting point is 00:18:59 whole new journey together that's different than what they've been doing up to this point? And what's their response. When they become aware of the fact that God's guiding their life in a new way, they fast. After they had fasted and prayed, boom, they send them off. It's the same pattern again. They become aware of God's presence, his guiding. It's a transition moment in life, and God's behind it influencing, opening opportunities and so on, and boom, here they go. And here's what's interesting about this example right here is what happens is one of the most remarkable events in church history. It's one of the first missionary journeys in Christian history. They go all over the ancient Mediterranean and they share the story of Jesus and they plant all of these churches and
Starting point is 00:19:43 Jesus communities all over. And it becomes the growing network of the Christian church in that part of the world. It's a remarkable result. So there is a result that happens. But the question is, were they praying and trying to get this result? And if you actually read the story, it doesn't seem like that. What it seems like is they became aware that God had marked these two people's lives and was opening a new opportunity for them. So what should you do? Like, how do you respond to that kind of thing? Will you stop eating for a day? Which I'm guessing most of us is kind of like, so we might think, well, I'd like pray or journal about it or something or, you know, we'll go have a prayer meeting or something. But their response is like, yeah, we're not going to eat for 24 hours after they,
Starting point is 00:20:26 this kind of dawned on them and they realized this. What's going on? And I think this type of fast, we're not told that they're praying or asking for anything. They're just responding to this awareness that God is involved in their life in a new and a dramatic way, changing the course of their lives. So what does fasting mean in this kind of experience? So think about this with me. In 20 years, what will you be doing on August 3rd, 2034? And the answer to that question for every one of us is we have no clue whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You have no idea what you're going to be doing in 20 years. years, kind of. But then again, if you think about it, you actually know for sure at least one thing that you will be doing. You will eat. You will eat a meal. So I predict it. I'm a prophet and I predict that you're going to eat a meal. You're also probably going to go to the bathroom and you're probably going to go to sleep, you know, that day or night or whatever. So in other words, eating, think of this. There's very few things that you do nearly every single day of your life for your entire life. Like, that list is really small, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:31 But eating is one of them. Eating is just one of the most universal, routine habits and practices. And if someone is in a situation where they don't have access to food for a day, they're very, very aware that they don't have access to food that day. You know what I'm talking about? So whether you are able to find a meal or whether you're not able to find a meal, you're very aware that this is an important part of your daily life. Now, there's something significant then.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Think about what a bold interruption it is to voluntarily just say, I'm not going to eat for 24 hours. Like that is so not natural, you know what I'm saying. Like that is so interruptive in your life. And it seems to me that's at least part of what's happening here. These are moments in these individuals' lives that came as these divine interruptions and just reset the course of their life. what's an appropriate way to respond to my life being totally changed and transitioned because of what God's doing in my life? And apparently one of the appropriate responses is to not eat. It's this way of internalizing and embodying this interruption.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's like you're rebooting your life. You're rebooting your system. Now you might be thinking, at least, and I would be thinking, well, again, like, I would just rather pray about it. like who, like, you know, I don't want to give up eating for a day. Like, that seems really inconvenient and so on. But what it shows is that I have this division in my mind that it's like, oh, my spiritual life is about thinking and praying, right, and learning and things that I do. And but what I do with my body, well, that's just different. That's just like bodily stuff. And that is a completely foreign to the view of human beings in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Our bodies are spiritual. Our bodies are the, the, inner dimension and the outer dimension of us are completely interwoven. And so in the biblical tradition, like, it's just totally appropriate response. God intervenes in your life. He redirects it. Don't eat. This is just natural, right? It just follows. And we're these modern secularized Westerners. We're going, that's so weird. It's like a experiment or something like that. No, it's just natural. It's embodying the fact that God is evolving our lives. I think there's another piece of it too, especially with the story of Jesus, I think this comes out, where one of the things when the devil, the presence of personal evil comes to Jesus and tries to compel him to
Starting point is 00:24:02 provide food for himself. And Jesus's response is that he says, humans don't live just by bread, but they live by the word of God. In other words, fasting is a way of reminding and declaring your frailty as a human. And that actually, you know, here we are, you know, we think we're making decisions and making life happen and we got a five-year plan or whatever. And so we're doing that. And then events happen in your lives that just throw off your plan. And you realize like, oh, I actually have very little control over my life whatsoever, you know? And like, those are disturbing moments for some of us, but they actually, they wake you up to something. They wake you up for the fact that I'm quite frail and that I'm quite fragile and that I really don't have ultimate control over what the
Starting point is 00:24:53 story of my life is about. And fasting is a way of embodying that frailty. Because when you don't eat, what do you think about? If you haven't eaten for like over two days, you're thinking about food quite a lot and you're reminded about how you entirely depend on things outside yourself to keep you alive. And it seems to me that's at least part of the meaning of fasting in these moments. So that's the first bucket right here. Fasting in response to God redirecting the course of your life. How you guys doing? Okay, that's number one. Now that's probably just half a dozen examples or so in the Bible. The second bucket, by far the vast majority, most of the instances, if you just look up, if you Google fasting or some fasting in the Bible, and you look up all the examples, almost all of them
Starting point is 00:25:38 will fit into the second bucket right here. And this is what I call turning. from sinful choices fast. Here's one example almost pulled at random from 1 Samuel 7. So all of the people of Israel, they turned back to Yahweh. This was after a season where they had been serving other gods. And so Samuel said to all of the Israelites, if you're returning to Yahweh with all your hearts, then rid yourselves of the foreign gods and commit yourselves to Yahweh and serve him only. then the Israelites put away their idol gods, they served Yahweh only. Now, we might think right there, okay, cool, they're cool. They turned, they repented, they said they're sorry, they change their behavior.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But no, it's not cool yet. The story's not over. There's more that needs to happen in their response to this. And so look what happens. Samuel said, assemble all Israel at Mitzpah. I will intercede with Yahweh for you. When they assembled at Mitzpah on that day, they fast, and there they confessed, we have sinned against Yahweh.
Starting point is 00:26:42 There's a few other examples there at the bottom of people fasting when they're turning from sinful decisions in their lives. The majority of the biblical examples are about this. So you have people, they're living their lives, and they're making choices that they think are just fine. And then they all of a sudden have this awareness through some means, through someone, talking to them through whatever the scriptures or words from the prophet, they'd wake up, their conscience is awakened or something. And they realize all of a sudden like, oh my gosh, this is not okay. Like what I've been doing that I thought was okay is totally not okay.
Starting point is 00:27:19 The way I've been treating that person, like the way I've normally thought about like money or how I do this at work or the way I do this in relationships. I thought that was just normal. That's just how I did it. That's how my friends did it. But it's wrong. And I'm waking up to that fact. In the biblical tradition, when you wake up to that fact, how do you respond to what should you do? And the vast majority of examples of fasting in the Bible is that response. It's that response. In other words, becoming aware of how screwed up I am is viewed in this kind of umbrella category of God messing with your life. He's waking you up to the truth of what he made humanity for,
Starting point is 00:28:04 and the kind of human he's called you to be. But then that's also a real act of grace because if I can own that and actually turn to this God Yahweh, his promise to me is to bring me towards growth and change if I keep in this attitude of repentance, keep in the mode of being a learner and confessing my sin and selfishness and so on.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And so that's viewed as a sacred moment for a human being to finally in this part of my life say, yeah, I guess I'm not God. I guess I don't get to define good and evil in this part of my life. I need to let God define those terms, even if that seems weird to me. That's a sacred moment. It's a moment of openness to God's messing with you in your life. And the appropriate part of the confession process of saying out loud and naming what it is I've done is fasting. They fasted. Most of the examples are just a 24-hour fast in the turning from sin fast. So what's going on here again?
Starting point is 00:29:05 So I think there's that interruption piece. I'm interrupting the most normal thing I do. I thought my life was just fine. Oh my gosh, it's not fine. I embody that experience by rebooting my whole body, so to speak, by not eating for a day. There's another layer of meaning to fasting in this turning from sinful choices fast.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And the prophet Joel unpacks this in a really powerful way in a little poem that he writes. He says, even now, declares the Lord, this is Yahweh talking to the people of Israel. He says, return to me with all of your heart, with fasting and weeping and mourning. Rend your heart and not your garments. Return to the Lord your God, for he's gracious, he's compassionate, he's slow to anger, abounding in covenant loyalty. So we have this image here of repentance, of turning,
Starting point is 00:30:03 to God from my selfishness and sin. And we embody this. One of the appropriate responses is to not eat for a day. But notice what is fasting connected with right here in the poem? What goes along with it, he says? So weeping and mourning. This sounds like a great time. So who wants to do this?
Starting point is 00:30:23 So in other words, but think about this. If you don't eat, if you've ever had the experience of not eating for a day or if you've tried even more, multiple days, do people in your life tend to notice if you haven't eaten for two days? And what kinds of things might they notice about you if you have not eaten for two days?
Starting point is 00:30:45 You know, you're going to be crabby, you're going to be irritable, kind of short, you know, maybe a little, you know, that kind of thing. There's some, not eating is lame. We're made to eat, right? And not eating is doing something that brings, not just inconvenience, but discomfort and grief, grief into our lives. I'm intentionally choosing to do something that brings my body grief.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That's one layer of what fasting is. And Joel's whole point here is like, yeah, exactly. When I become aware of things that I've done, that have hurt myself and that I've hurt other people, that's wrong. And to just glibly turn like, okay, start a new leaf. whatever, there's a moment, this is not about punishing yourself, but this is about grieving over the broken state of our world and over the broken state of my heart and mind that thought that this was an okay way to live. And so there's an appropriate embodiment of that grief
Starting point is 00:31:47 and fasting. Then you turn right to the Lord your God, and this form of fasting is connected with asking God for a result, namely that I be forgiven and given a new chance. what is God's absolute promise to any of those who turn towards him. He's gracious. He's compassionate. He's just been waiting for you to come to him. He's right there to meet you. And so fasting, it's like this symbol. It's not just a symbol. It actually is an embodiment of this grief and recognizing God's role in my life. This is very powerful. This is extremely powerful. I've never done this. I've never done this. This is like the majority of all of the times fasting is even mentioned in the Bible. This is very important.
Starting point is 00:32:30 the thing, and I've never done this. I don't know if that bothers you. I'm your pastor. What do you write something? But I don't, that bothered me. I was just like, holy cow, I clearly have been missing out on something right here. Would Jesus even recognize me as a Christian? You know what I don't know. I don't do these things that apparently are just part of like what God's people do. But anyway, whatever, there's a new day. I should fast. So anyways, that's this one, turning from sinful choices fast. The last bucket, there's also quite a number of examples of this too. It's kind of related to what I call the tragic calamity fast. It's when just something horrible happens. It happens to me. It happens to somebody else. It happens in the
Starting point is 00:33:11 world. It happens in my community. There's a tragedy. There's death. There's sickness. Something horrible happens. And how do you respond to that? And the appropriate response to that is to not there are some events that take place that are so grievous, the only appropriate response is to just stop all normal operations of your life. Look at how David talks about this in Psalm 35. David was a man who had a lot of people who wanted to kill him, a lot of people who hated him. And so he begins by talking about them. He says, contend, Lord, with those who contend with me. Fight against those who fight against me. May those who seek my life be disgraced and put to shame. may those who plop my ruin be turned back in dismay.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And look what he says. These are people that have repaid me evil for good. They leave me like one who is bereaved. Yet when they were ill, I put on sackcloth and humbled myself with fasting. When my prayers returned to me unanswered, I went about mourning as though for my friend or my brother. This is really remarkable. So he's not even talking about somebody he likes. He's talking about somebody he does.
Starting point is 00:34:20 doesn't like, who's like done something really horrible to him. But even David, his conscience, you know, was so soft that to watch sickness, in this case, sickness and tragedy happened to any human being, it evoked something inside of him. Like, that's so screwed up. And this form of fasting is about embodying the grief, the appropriate grief about the horrible, tragic things that happened in our world. And it's very interesting, you know, to think about in the West, you know, like funeral practices, for example, in the West. I don't know if you've ever been to a funeral or memorial service, but very often for close friends and family, after a memorial service, what do people usually go do? They usually go like have a hosted meal somewhere. I don't know
Starting point is 00:35:07 if you've ever had this experience. I've had the experience before and just thought like, that feels weird to me, but I don't know why. And now I think I do know why. It's because, so in biblical tradition, death is such a tragedy. Death is such a tragedy from what God intended and purposed for our world. Death is viewed as an enemy of God's good purposes in our world. And the only appropriate response to death and sickness and tragedy is to just stop eating. I can't act like anything's okay. And you take 24 hours and just fully embody that grief. When Joseph died at the end of the book of Genesis, This family fasted for seven days. They had the whole country fast for seven days.
Starting point is 00:35:50 It was such a tragedy in a moment of grief. And so you put your life on pause and you acknowledge that grief. You acknowledge God's own grief at the state of his world in this experience of fasting. Now notice also, is David praying for anything when he's fasting? Look at what he says. Where his prayers answered? No, look at the last one. My prayers were not answered.
Starting point is 00:36:12 They didn't get better. The person died or they were sick or something. In other words, when we're in this mode, this is a mode of fasting where we're pleading with God. Bring your kingdom, you know, bring justice to our world, bring healing or life to this person. And there are sometimes where that happens, where God does something remarkable as a result. But there are sometimes where it doesn't happen. And David's talking about it. Which again, all goes back to the fact that the result is not really the thing.
Starting point is 00:36:41 it's about us responding in an appropriate way to this sacred moment in our lives. So those are the three big buckets of fasting, and there are all these layers of meaning, interrupting our lives, and embodying the grief and interrupting normal patterns and so on. But this, all of a sudden it just dawned to me, like, this is a very powerful practice. I mean, I can only think that this would be a practice that would enrich my life in a deep way,
Starting point is 00:37:11 because you don't just not eat. Like, that's so extreme. But there are things that happen in our lives and in our world where that's an entirely appropriate response. And I think that's what these practices are trying to get at. Take one more step with me before we're done. So what we're getting at here is that notice all of these examples here are about these are really serious sacred moments in our lives, right?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Whether it's repenting from sin or lamenting over a tragedy or the course of my life's being redirected. But there are also sacred moments that aren't grievous or serious. There are also sacred moments where God does stuff in our lives that is just pure grace and awesomeness, right? Where good things happen. And what should be the appropriate response when that happens? Should we stop eating?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Just the opposite. Look at verse 27 of Luke chapter 5. after this Jesus went out and he saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth tax collector good guy bad guy bad guy bad guy first century mafia that I call him right so he's treasoness he's Jewish but he's betrayed his own people but the Romans are just using him as a pawn and he's filthy writ Jesus said to him follow me Levi got up left everything followed him who like what's the backstory there. You know, what's going on inside of this guy's mind and heart? He just responds to Jesus immediately. Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house, huge feast, large crowd of
Starting point is 00:38:48 other First Century Mafia and others eating with them. But the Pharisees, the religious leaders, and the teachers of the law who belong to their sect, they start complaining to Jesus' disciples, saying, what are you doing? Feasting, right? Eating and drinking with these First Century mafia leaders, tax collectors, and sinners. And then Jesus clearly overheard this, and then always to the point, Jesus, Jesus answered them, listen, it's not healthy people who need doctor, his sick people. I haven't come to call the righteous, but rather sinners, to repentance. So Jesus, he's out there in his mission of announcing the kingdom, and the most unlikely people in the world are turning to Jesus and are both owning up to their sin and
Starting point is 00:39:35 selfishness and finding themselves transformed by an encounter with him. And so the parties ensue. And so this becomes such a regular practice of Jesus that he starts getting criticized even more by these religious leaders. Look what they say to him. Next sentence. Verse 33, they said to him, listen, John's disciples often fast and pray. Talking about John the Baptist here. A friend of yours, Jesus, John the Baptist. His disciples fast and pray all the time. And so, to the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on feasting, eating, and drinking. Jesus answered. Jesus, what? Can you make the friends of the bridegroom fast while he's with them? Right? So they're like talking about fasting and stuff, and Jesus starts talking about weddings. You're just like,
Starting point is 00:40:25 what on earth? So can you make the friends of the bridegroom fast while he's with them? Listen, the time will come when the bridegroom is taken from them and they will fast. That's his response. It's his response to them. So, in other words, they're watching Jesus feast to celebrate all of these people who are finding life and finding the kingdom of God. And they criticize him because fasting and prayer were seen to be the right. And we look through all these examples like, yes, exactly. Like day-to-day life.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And actually fasting had become. woven into the, as a weekly pattern of lots of contemporary Jews. They would fast, some of them, even two days a week, Tuesdays and Thursdays. And Jesus all of a sudden, he just stops all of that. This is like what normal Jewish people are doing, and Jesus just stops. And all of a sudden, he just starts celebrating and having all these parties with mafia leaders, right? And just celebrating all these people who are finding the kingdom and finding him. Now notice what Jesus says. Does Jesus say, like, you know, fasting is just legalistic and you shouldn't do that and that's, you know, like that could become a ritual that's unhealthy or something. Is that what Jesus says? It's not what
Starting point is 00:41:39 he says. What he says, listen, there's a wedding on right now. There's a wedding on. The bridegroom is here. All of the guests and friends are at the party as a wedding anytime to like choose to not eat. Are you kidding me? So no, this is a moment of grace. There's a new family being created here, right? The new covenant family of Jesus's people and the bridegroom is here and all of this partying is going on. Now listen, listen, fasting is not appropriate right now, Jesus says, but is there coming again a time when fasting will be appropriate for all of those who have come around the bridegroom? Will fasting be appropriate one day in the future? Yeah, yeah, when the bridegroom's taken from them. All right, you guys, thanks for
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