Exploring My Strange Bible - Praying and Acting (Remastered)

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Practicing Faith E3 — In the Lord’s Prayer, Jesus models for us how to daily bring our requests to God. But implied in its words are ways of being and acting that will align with our words. In thi...s final of three teachings on Christian practices, Tim explores the meaning and significance of the Lord’s Prayer, which has incredible potential to change our lives. Tim gave this message at Door of Hope Church in Portland, Ore., on August 24, 2014. OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT View this episode’s official transcript. REFERENCED RESOURCES Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here. SHOW MUSIC “Nob Hill Instrumental” by Drexler SHOW CREDITS Production of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Aaron Olsen edited and remastered today's episode. JB Witty writes our show notes. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Hey, everybody. I'm Tim Mackie, and this is my podcast, exploring my strange Bible. I am a card-carrying Bible history and language nerd who thinks that Jesus of Nazareth is utterly amazing and worth following with everything that you have. On this podcast, I'm putting together the last 20 years worth of lectures and sermons where I've been exploring the strange and wonderful story of the Bible and how it invites us into the mission of Jesus and the journey of faith. And I hope this can all be helpful for you too. I also help start this thing called The Bible Project.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We make animated videos and podcasts and classes about all kinds of topics in Bible and theology. You can find all those resources at Bibleproject.com. With all that said, let's dive into the episode for this week. All right. Well, this is the third of a three-part series, and it represents a number of teachings that I did back when I was a pastor at Dorofoge Church. and we did a short series on key spiritual practices, habits of life that have marked followers of Jesus throughout many different church traditions, Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic, throughout the history of the church.
Starting point is 00:01:26 We got together, here's what all Christians of all different traditions have agreed on as the habits that foster and cultivate a healthy devotion to Jesus. This episode is on praying and acting. And actually, it's a long exploration of the meaning and significance of the classic Lord's Prayer. And if you wait for it, at the end of the teaching, I actually play the Lord's Prayer, sung by a nun in Jerusalem singing the Lord's Prayer in an ancient form of Aramaic, which is awesome. So that's at the end of the teaching. I play that. But anyway, the Lord's Prayer, it'll change your life forever.
Starting point is 00:02:04 if you learn both what it means and begin praying it every single day like Jesus expected his followers would do. So with all that said, let's just dive in. All right. We're continuing in this series. We're almost near the end, actually, of the series we did for the second half of the summer called Spiritual Symmetry. And if you've been following, you already know what I'm going to say in the next 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:02:33 This has been a series where we're exploring the biblical patterns of our own. what the daily life habits and practices and rhythms and routines of the spiritual life of Jesus, but then also of the earliest Christians and then throughout history. What are the kinds of life habits that mark Jesus and Christians throughout history who are growing, who are changing or transforming, and so on. It's a very practical series. And we've been taking each week to take two of these biblical historic practices that seem like there's maybe tension or they're at odds with each other and figure out how they work together. And so today we're talking about prayer.
Starting point is 00:03:11 We're talking about praying and acting. Praying and acting. So we're talking about talking to God. And then we're talking about going and doing something about what you just talk to God about. In my way, that's how I would frame it. Talking to God. But then, of course, how are you actually living
Starting point is 00:03:28 and what are you supposed to go do about these things that you just prayed and talk to God about? How are those two go together? And as we're going to see today, I think in Christian prayer, part of what makes Christian prayer unique is the way that Jesus saw praying and acting is completely bound together, the same coin. So when I say the word prayer, here's my hunch. My hunch is that when I said praying and acting, we're talking about prayer
Starting point is 00:03:53 today. Anytime you talk about prayer in a church setting or a Christian setting, there's this invisible wave of guilt, right, that pervades the room, right? Because half of us, you know, we know the like, oh yeah, prayer, like that's important. That's this thing that should be important to me. And somehow it's like that doesn't actually translate into action, right? And so maybe you know, you feel like it. It is important or that it should be important, but you find different struggles with it. But that's not everybody. So you think of it like a spectrum. And my guess is that the whole spectrum is sitting in the room here. So yeah, some people, I call them the direct line people. And they just like, they're just in tune with Jesus throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:04:34 and when they pray, they're the people you, like, call or email when you really have a real urgent need or something like that, because somehow, like, they're just, they're those people, and they pray a lot, and it's effective in their lives and the people around them. So there's those people, and then there's some of us, I say prayer, and, and you think of a practice that brings a lot of solace in your life, for comfort. It's kind of like a bedrock for you, and it's positive. It's positive. There is kind of the middle of the spectrum, which would be like, yes, I know it's important and it is powerful. Sometimes it's really dry and I just do it because I know I'm supposed to, but I don't always get a lot out of it.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And then there's just the downright confused and frustrated bunch, right? And I'm kind of in this middle side area over here most of the time. That's not unexpected. There are many of us for whom just the idea of prayer gets our mind spinning on a million questions. They're like, how does it work? Does it actually work if God, like, knows what I'm going to say before I even say it, why should, do I need to do it, you know? And does it, does God respond to my prayers? How does that whole thing work out? And then you find yourself thinking about that when you're supposed to be
Starting point is 00:05:42 praying. And then you're like, dang, I got to move on with my day or whatever. And then you go. And then that's your experience of prayer. And so, whatever, we've got the whole spectrum in the room right now. And here's what's interesting, I think, is that since I've become a Christian, I've paid attention to the language that I use or that I hear people use to talk about prayer. And you hear all these words of like profound and solace and comfort and important and confusion and so on. Paul the apostle used the word like wrestling, like actual physical grappling when he talked about prayer. He says he has a friend at the end of Colossians who's grappling in prayer on your behalf. And you're like, yes, that's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I make grappling comes to your mind. So we have all these words and things that come to our mind when we think about the practice of prayer. And one of the things that I almost never hear people talk about when they talk about their experiences of prayer is Jesus. Jesus. Now, you might think, what are you talking about? Of course, Jesus is involved in my prayer. I end my prayers with the name of Jesus, right? But let's just be honest.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Like, that's the equivalent of hitting the send button for most of us, you know? And it's just kind of like, it's that thing that you do to make sure it has extra effect or something like that. I don't know. But for many of us, that's about what Jesus is. has to do with our prayers. And this is, it's not good. It's not good because, I mean, just think about it. And so here we are again. Jesus actually cared deeply about the prayer habits of his followers. He cared deeply about it. He cared that they prayed. He both modeled that in his own life. And we explored that earlier on in the series, Jesus' own habits of solitude and prayer and scripture.
Starting point is 00:07:25 but he also taught a lot about prayer, and he seemed to care deeply about how his followers prayed and what they prayed. And he seemed to think that Christian prayer and what he was teaching his disciples to do was unique, and it was different. Jesus acknowledged, as we're going to see,
Starting point is 00:07:44 that lots of people pray across all kinds of spectrum and religious traditions, what makes Jesus' followers' prayer different and unique and distinct. And he seemed to care about that because he taught a lot about it. In fact, he gave us a prayer. And for many of us, that prayer has become so familiar to us. We've just forgotten about it and forgotten his
Starting point is 00:08:06 brilliance and its power. What am I talking about? The prayers that he gave us. What do we call it? We call it the Lord's Prayer. And there is, I'm convinced of it, a universe inside of the Lord's prayer. And because of familiarity, we've become accustomed to it, bored with it. You know, probably not the familiarity breeds contempt with Lord's prayer, but at least boredom or lack of inspiration. So it seems to me we need to come back here again because what mattered most closely to Jesus, he shared with us as he taught us how to pray. So I invite you to get out your Bibles with me and we're going to focus on the Lord's prayer today. It's in Matthew chapter 6. So first book of the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew chapter 6.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Matthew chapter six. So look at verse five. It's a little introduction Jesus has to his prayer. And what he's going to do? He's going to identify two forms of praying that existed for his disciples out there in their culture already. And that is true also for us too. You know, every time, you know, Time magazine or something like that does, or the Pew Research Forum or something, does surveys on the religious activities of Americans or something.
Starting point is 00:09:19 prayer is always way higher than anybody's religious affiliation with the church or a religion or a mosque or synagogue, anything. Prayer always outnumbers how many people are actually involved in an official religious organization. So whatever that means, prayer pervades the life of lots and lots of people who are all over the map spiritually. Jesus recognizes that too. And so what makes a disciple of Jesus' prayer unique?
Starting point is 00:09:49 and different. What marks it as Christian? And that's what he's going to explore here. So in verse five, he just assumes that his disciples will pray. He just assumes it. He just assumes it. He just says, and when you all pray, he's talking to a big group of disciples on a hillside. He says, don't be like the hypocrites. They love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly, I tell you, they have received their reward in full. So, he was talking about the very pious and religious in their Jewish community here. And as we're going to see in a little bit, biblical traditions of prayer, Jewish traditions of prayer, was modeled around the structure of prayer three times a day. Morning, when you get up, before you go to
Starting point is 00:10:35 bed, but then, like a midday prayer, an afternoon prayer. And what the midday prayer creates is an opportunity where you're like in the marketplace or something and like, oh, it's time for prayer. and there was a tendency forming, especially among some religious leaders, who will find themselves conveniently stepping up, stare or two to be quite visible to others as they say their prayers or something like that. And it's just ego, and it's just humans being stupid, right?
Starting point is 00:11:01 But he says, that's one extreme. Don't be like that. So here's the first mark of Jesus-centered prayer is that it's personal. And you do it in a way that doesn't let on to anybody else that you're actually doing it. Look at what he says here.
Starting point is 00:11:18 So he says, when you pray, go into your room, close the door, pray to your father who's unseen, and your father who sees what's done in secret will reward you. For Jesus' prayer is a deeply personal and relational experience. And to even risk being in a setting where you will exploit to look good in some ways just to sabotage the whole thing. And so Jesus-centered prayer is meant to be done in a very very, discreet, almost like covert type of way. Nobody else needs to know that you're doing it
Starting point is 00:11:51 when you do your midday prayer. But then there's another extreme. He says, look at verse seven. He says, and when you pray, don't be like, you know, what's going wrong with Jewish prayer, but also don't keep babbling on like pagans for when they think they will be heard because of their many words. Now, let's just stop real quick here. You hear the word pagan, and do you think positive or negative association. We're pegan. It's mostly negative in English, isn't it? It's like a pejorative type of word. And that's
Starting point is 00:12:22 not the case in the Bible. This is kind of hard for us to get. So the word has come to have all these connections to it that it doesn't actually have in the Bible. In the Bible, it's an ethnic term. It's always used in the mouth of somebody who's Jewish talking about somebody who's not Jewish. So he's talking about the Greeks,
Starting point is 00:12:38 the Greeks are the Romans. Here's the way to go wrong and the way Jewish contemporaries are going wrong. Here's the non-Jewish world and how it prays. And the prayers are long. They're just really long prayers. That's the problem. You just thought praying needlessly long is an issue and like a real problem that shouldn't mark the prayers of his followers. Go think about this thing. So I don't know if you've ever had the experience of reading some of the great, you know, Greek or Roman classics, right? Like Homer's Iliad or the Odyssey or something like that. You should. Just as like an inhabitant of the Western
Starting point is 00:13:12 culture you should know about these things. You'll read Homer. And what you'll find is that lots of stories and they're often filled with people making prayers to the Greek and the Roman gods, to Zeus or to Apollos or something. And you will notice, it'll just jump right off the page off. They're just like unbearably long. They're just really long. And they're long for a reason, because the whole point is that the Greek and Roman gods, like, you don't know if they like you. They could wake up with chip on their shoulder that day. And they don't care about you or what you're saying to them. And so So half of it is just rhetoric trying to get the God's attention and convincing them why they should. Jesus' whole point is like, to go on and on trying to convince God about how important it is
Starting point is 00:13:51 shows that you don't actually understand who you're praying to. And so he says this, he says, verse 8, he says, don't be like them. Your father knows what you need before you ask him. Now here's what's funny. I think many of us, we read that statement, okay, don't need to go on and on. he already knows what you need. And our response to that is, already knows what I need.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Well, why should I pray? If he already knows what I need, why should I pray? And do you see that Jesus is drawing the exact opposite conclusion? He already knows what you need. So pray, for goodness sakes. Do you see his logic here?
Starting point is 00:14:27 It's completely upside down from us. He sees the fact that the Father already knows and is already paying attention to you and knows what you need. He sees that as precisely the reason why you would pray. And then what he goes on to say, having avoided the two extremes, is to give us this beautiful little poetic prayer that is quite short. This then is how you should pray. And I just feel compelled we should say it aloud together because it's the Lord's prayer for going to say.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So would you join me? Our Father, in heaven, how would it be your name? Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. give us today our daily bread and forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one now some of you have more to the prayer and some of your translation especially if it's from king james tradition most of you don't but you'll see a footnote and you know that i love those footnotes they're full of Endlessly curious things.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So what's going on is some of you might know the form of the prayer that has an ending, and that's what you'll see in the footnote. For yours, speaking to God, yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. That's not original to the prayer. Jesus did not say that. And all of the earliest manuscripts that we have to this prayer are the form that we just read it in, in the shorter version.
Starting point is 00:16:00 But when that addition was made and how and why it was made, actually gives us a clue into how the Lord's Prayer began to play a role in the life of Christians and in the worship gatherings. So as we're going to come full circle, as we end today's exploration about the Lord's Prayer, we're going to see that this prayer very quickly, like almost immediately, became adopted as the daily prayer of followers of Jesus. We prayed morning, afternoon and evening and prayed in the Sunday. gatherings. And within the first somewhere, 50, 75 years, especially I think in light of the Lord's prayer being read like in Sunday gatherings, which are for worship, there was felt a need to conclude the prayer with something that sounds a little bit more like a praise song. So yours is the kingdom power and glory. That's almost certainly where this edition came from. And it's beautiful. And I actually think you should say it because it's about how the Lord's Prayer became the prayer of the church.
Starting point is 00:16:55 But it's not what Jesus said. Now, how's that for dodging a whole complex conversation right there? So here's the prayer that he gave us right here. What on earth do you say about the Lord's prayer? You know, like try and say something new. Of course not. But there is something about it. It has become so familiar to many of us that we actually stop seeing how profound and brilliant it is and what Jesus is trying to get us to be and do
Starting point is 00:17:21 as he gives this prayer to us. And as I said, there's a universe inside this prayer. This prayer is meant to actually not close you down by becoming too familiar, it's supposed to crack open something that's huge and expansive, invite you into all kinds of new experiences. What do you say? I'm not going to work our way through every line of the prayer. I just want to draw attention to a couple things. Look at the prayer and just pay attention. It's structured into two halves. There's two halves to the poem, to the prayer here. And the two halves depends on the focus. If you look at the first half,
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's about five lines. You'll see it's all focused on God's will and God's agenda and his kingdom. Look, it's dominated by the words you and yours. Do you see that? So how it be your name, may your kingdom come, may your will be done. Do you see that right there? You, you, you. So think about this.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Jesus wants his followers before they do anything else. Before we focus on what's happening in my story and what's not happening according to my will in my life, I first recognize that my story is just one little tiny piece of the bigger story of what God is doing in the world. And so what I value, what I prioritize first is God's reputation, his name. What I value and prioritize first is the story of how his kingdom is, coming and how God's rejoining heaven and earth according to his will, right, and on earth as it is in heaven. And I do that first. It's sort of like that's the set of glasses that I see everything through. Even my own needs and prayer requests, I see through this first land. So that's the
Starting point is 00:19:09 first half. And then look at the second half. Then it shifts to us in our, give us our daily bread, forgive us, as we forgive, lead us, not in a temptation, deliver us. Do you see that right there? Do you see the two halves? You, you, you, we us, we, us, we up. There's something right there. Pretty much, I just want us to think about that right there. Because, again, there's a universe inside of what's happening here. I think how most of us pray, especially the second half of the prayer, if you pray the prayer, you say us, forgive us.
Starting point is 00:19:42 But I think most of us in our mind actually say me, me and mine. Okay, God, do your thing. Yep, yep. Okay, now on to me. So my bread, my physical well-being, my forgiveness, relationship with you. So that's how I think how most of us read it. And that's clear that Jesus could have said that. He clearly envisioned that this is a personal prayer said in close personal settings, right?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Go be by yourself. But he doesn't say, give me. In other words, that plural is crucial. And it makes all the difference in the world. Because once I orient myself to the story of God's kingdom coming into the world, through Jesus, when I'm turning my attention, even when I turn my attention to my own story, it's always in the context of me, in the place of my broader community. And so I'm not just praying about my needs. I'm also mindful of other people's needs, because there's a whole lot of other people
Starting point is 00:20:37 that need bread. And there's a lot of other people that need forgiveness. And there's lots of other people who are in difficult trials. And so it gets your mind off of yourself in both halves of the prayer. onto God's story and then onto the story of me as a part of a broader community. We'll come back to that. So there's our two halves. Now, I've already been talking about as much time as you could say the Lord's prayer like 50 times. So is this a short prayer? Does it fit Jesus's requirements of not long?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Even if you were to like go up on steps in public, by the time everybody is looking at you, think that you're really religious, it's over. You know what I'm saying? So you won't actually even, like, really look very religious saying a prayer that this short, and that's Jesus' point. Now, this isn't the only form of the short prayer that Jesus gave to his disciples. He taught it to his disciples. We know on one other occasion, and almost certainly on many, many occasions.
Starting point is 00:21:37 In fact, almost all of the teachings of Jesus, he's a traveling teacher. And so he's going around from town to town, village to village. And, you know, he does what all traveling teachers do. he has a fixed body of stuff that he's saying. It's not like he came up with new parables every single village. That would be like two million parables or something, you know? So he developed a body of work,
Starting point is 00:21:57 of proverbs, of sayings, of teachings. And so he certainly taught this prayer to lots of different people on lots of different occasions. And we have one of them, and the comparison is interesting. It's in Luke chapter 11. So here he's on a hill with a whole bunch of disciples.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Here, he's somewhere else, and one day he had been praying in a certain place. When he was finished, one of his disciples said to him, Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples. And so he said to them, when you pray, say this, Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, as we also forgive everyone who sins against us and lead us not into temptation.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Now, is that the Lord's prayer? So say yes. Say yes, all right, because is it the Lord saying it? And is it a prayer? Yep. Okay, all right, done. I've convinced you. So, yeah, is it the Lord's prayer, as you know it from the occasion he mentioned in Matthew?
Starting point is 00:23:04 No. And that shouldn't bother you one ounce. He's a traveling teacher, for goodness sake. Does he have to say it the exact same way every time? He said, no, of course he doesn't. This is what traveling teachers do. Now, for all of the, this is actually even a shorter version. Jesus cared about brevity in prayer, by the way.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It's just clear. Look, he's like, okay, let's boil it down even more. So even though some of the phrases are a little different and it's even a shorter form, are the two halves still there in the same order. So you can even see the wording is important, but all the key words are there. Father, kingdom, your name, bread, forgiveness. deliverance from testing and so on, it's all right there. So we have two wordings of the very same prayer that communicate the same exact message. Where did Jesus
Starting point is 00:23:52 come up with this? What's at the heart of this prayer and what's at the heart of these two halves? And if there's two different forms of it, it's clearly we should not get so much hung up on the precise wording but on the heartbeat of the prayer, which is bound up with the key themes and then connect these two halves. Where did Jesus come up with this prayer? Why did he give you it to us in this way. And what did he mean to invite us into by inviting us to pray this prayer? To explore that, put your thumb here and go forward with me about 15 chapters in Matthew to Matthew chapter 22. Matthew 22. We're going to go down a rabbit hole, but curiously, the rabbit hole is going to land us precisely at the Lord's Prayer by the end of it. You guys ready?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Rabbit hole. Matthew 22, verse 34. And this, story is in the last week that Jesus spent in Jerusalem, Passover and bleeding up to his execution. So this is really an intense week in the life of Jesus. Chapter 22, verse 34. Now hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, which was one Jewish religious group, the Pharisees, another Jewish religious group, got together. And one of them, an expert in the law, attested him with this question. Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law? Now, it's a perfectly good question.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Is it being asked from a right motive? No, no, what's the purpose? It's get Jesus. That's the purpose. This is a loaded question. Think of a politically or religiously charged hot topic in our setting, and this person is coming to Jesus asking him a question. They don't want to learn anything. They're trying to peg him
Starting point is 00:25:43 in a pigeonhole so that they can get him to line up as far as where he is and where he fits on their mat politically and religiously and so on. It would be like in our setting someone coming up being Jesus, legalization of Maramana. And it's like, well, oh, so you're trying to peg someone because you assume if you know what they think about that, you also know what they think about this, this, this, this, and this. And Jesus always resists, people trying to categorize him. He breaks everybody's categories. And so the question is a very Jewish one and it's hot topic in first century, Judaism. So this guy's an expert in the scriptures.
Starting point is 00:26:17 The law is, don't think American English law or lawyers or anything. It's a Jewish term referring to the first five books of the scriptures, which in Jewish tradition are called Torah, which gets translated as law right here. And in the Torah, and there's a whole bunch of commands, You have the story of Abraham, and then it becomes Israel. Israel comes out of slavery in Egypt to the foot of Mount Sinai. They're given the 10 commandments, and then they're given 603 more commandments after that, making a grand total of 613. I mean, that's just a lot of commands already.
Starting point is 00:26:53 But here's what's interesting. Those are what's in Exodus, Numbers, excuse me, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. But if you look at those 613, there's all kinds of different commands about, like, you know, how to deal with your neighbor's cow if it eats grass in your farm or something. And like what kind of clothing you should, food, you should or shouldn't eat how to do the sacrifices and so on. And you think, holy cow, 613. Surely that's plenty. Well, actually, it's not. It's not plenty because there are all these gaps holes in the commands and how they relate to each other. And there's a million other scenarios that those since 613 don't envision. And so one of the tasks of Jewish scholars after that
Starting point is 00:27:31 was to come up with a whole other body of like sub-commands that clarify the original 613 commands. And so you have Jewish students, like, they're coming to learn the scriptures and then this whole thing. And there's like thousands of commands. And so a raging debate and discussion in Jesus' day is, well, which one's the most important? Like, which is the one that you make sure that you do so that you will end up doing all of the others at the same time? Or which one is the common denominator underneath all of them, right? That's the discussion. In different groups of Jewish people landed in different areas. And so here we go. We're trying to peg Jesus. Which kind of Jewish teacher are you, Jesus? And ever brilliant, this is how he replies. Jesus replied, he says, love the Lord your God
Starting point is 00:28:15 with all of your heart, with all of your soul, with all of your mind. Now, did he come up with that? No, what's he doing? Just he's quoting the scriptures, right? And he's quoting from the Torah, specifically from the book of Deuteronomy chapter six. Now, even more than he's just quoting Torah, love the Lord your God with all your heart, or your soul with all your mind. This comes from a prayer. This comes from called the Shama prayer,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and I often close our gatherings with it. It's the Shama prayer that was said three times a day in Jewish tradition. It was the heartbeat, so to speak. It was like the Jewish creed. the closest thing that Judaism has to a creed of belief is saying the shama. Hero is real, the Lord our God, the Lord is one, and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart or your soul, and so on.
Starting point is 00:29:07 So Jesus quotes that, and then he says this, this is the first and greatest commandment. But then he keeps going. Now, what was the guy's question? What is the greatest commandment? And he says, well, here's the first, and then he says, and the second is like it. Now, I think most of us read that as here's the first most important and here's the second most important. That's not what he's saying. He's saying something much more
Starting point is 00:29:32 clever than that, right? So the guy asked him, what's the most important commandment? And he said, well, here is the first greatest commandment. Love the Lord Chukalphala. And here is the other greatest commandment. Now, there's how many greatest commandments are there? No, there's one. There's one greatest commandment. And what is it? Well, first, love God, and the second is, love your neighbor as yourself. So which one is the greatest? Exactly. Yes. Right, that's exactly. Jesus, come on. He's so awesome. So the second is like it. It's like it. Well, what command is like loving, love the Lord your God? Well, love your neighbor as yourself. And did he come up with that line? No, he didn't come up with that. What's he doing? He's quoting your favorite book of the Torah.
Starting point is 00:30:18 What's he quoting right here from Leviticus, chapter 19? Leviticus, he was a huge fan of Leviticus, apparently. And then look how he sums it up. He says, all the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments. All the scriptures, the Torah, the prophets, everything in the scriptures hangs right here. Absolutely brilliant. So what's the greatest command, Jesus? Well, here's the first greatest command.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And then here's the second greatest command. But don't think second in terms of height importance. Do you understand what he's saying? It's just awesome. I'm trying to say it right, but it's so great. So, in other words, Jesus sees your personal relation to God as completely interwoven and inextricable from your relationships to other divine image-bearing human being. And all religious traditions, no matter where they come from, they tend towards this.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They tend towards, well, as long as I can maintain this kind of personal relational connection with the deity of some kind, then as long as like we do that. and the practices that make that healthy, then I must be doing great. And Jesus is like, you're kidding me. That actually could be the worst deception of the human heart is the religious deception because like your actual relationships and your lives can be in ruin. And you think you're just, you think you're doing just fine because you're doing like this thing that's this kind of personal intangible connection here. And so Jesus is just like, no, they're utterly interwoven. They together are the greatest commandment. Love God and to love your neighbor. If my personal
Starting point is 00:31:50 relationships are in ruins. And if part of why they're being a ruin, or maybe even the whole reason why they're in ruin, it's because of, like, stupid, sinful stuff that I'm doing or that's inside of me, Jesus would say, you think you love God, but you actually don't. You need to love God by, first of all, loving those people and humbling yourself and making that right. And it's two sides of the same coin. Two sides of the same coin. So for Jesus, this is what one of my favorite New Testament scholars, named Scott McKnight. He wrote a whole wonderful little book right here on this story, and he summarizes what Jesus is saying here, he calls it the Jesus Creed. Because what is unique about what Jesus is doing, it's not the story, he's just quoting the scriptures, but he's combined them in a new and profound way.
Starting point is 00:32:39 You love God, you love people. And the two of those are so closely connected that they are together, the greatest commandment. This is a unique to Jesus, and he is. It summarizes like the ethic of Jesus and what he called his followers too. It's the Jesus Creed. So, okay, here we are. What does it have to do with the Lord's Prayer? It has everything to do with the Lord's Prayer. Because I think it actually, it forms the background.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's giving us a window into the very heartbeat of what Jesus was about. It gives us a window into what he believed human existence was about. is to live in right covenant relationship and loyalty to the one true creator God, and to express that through right, healthy relationships and seeking the well-being of the other humans who bear God's image around me. And who Jesus is, and this is, I believe, what's at work in the Lord's Prayer. The Lord's Prayer, I would put it to you, is the Jesus Creed turned into a prayer. Love God, love your neighbor.
Starting point is 00:33:45 go back to Matthew chapter six with me. Hey guys going. Jesus takes the scriptures. He takes the Jewish tradition in his day. He reorders it and adapts it to become something unique to him and what he's doing. And this is exactly what he's doing in the Lord's Prayer. There was a Jewish prayer that existed in Jesus' day. It was mostly said at synagogue gatherings, but also on other occasions as well, some of the great feasts and so on.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And this prayer, it was very biblical prayer. Most of the language is borrowed from the book of Psalms and so on, but it was a popular prayer in Jesus' day. It's called the Khadish. Let me read it to you, and you'll deceive what's going on here. So this prayer pre-existed Jesus. It was being said in synagogues and so on, and it reads, May God's great name be exalted and hallowed in the world which he created according to his will. May he establish his kingdom in your lifetime and in your day.
Starting point is 00:34:44 and in the lifetime of the house of Israel speedily and soon. Amen? And amen. You just see it right there. Can you just see all the key words right there? The overlap with the Lord's prayer. God's name being hallowed, God's will, God's kingdom coming, and so on. So Jesus, even the first half of the Lord's prayer, and both of these are looking at different biblical passages, right? But notice which half of the Lord's prayer does this match up with? Yeah, isn't that interesting? So in other words, Jesus, along with the scriptures and Jewish contemporary, he's happy to emphasize and to put first and foremost this orienting myself to God's will
Starting point is 00:35:27 and God's mission and God's story. First of all, that's just what you do. But then what he's done is he's done a Jesus creed on this thing, right? he's made it uniquely his own to mark what he thinks is the greatest commandment, which is the form of loving God. You're valuing what God values by placing it first and foremost. It's like what Jesus said. Seek first, the kingdom, everything else will sort itself out. Pray about the kingdom, pray for the kingdom to come, but don't think that you're done yet. Because the whole question is, well, how is loving God expressed? How is it that God's kingdom actually starts coming?
Starting point is 00:36:05 And it seems to me that's precisely what the second half of the Lord's prayer is about. If the first half is about loving God, the second half is about loving your neighbor. Now come back to the prayer, Matthew 6, look at the second half. And I highlighted this. Notice Jesus did not teach us to pray, give me the bread that I need today. What if you're praying this prayer, praying the Lord's prayer, like you do, right? And you have enough bread. In fact, you have no question where your next.
Starting point is 00:36:35 three meals are coming from. Your next like 21 meals or whatever. Like you just, you have enough food. But you're not just praying about your bread, are you? Are you? No, you're praying about our bread. In other words, this prayer is meant to also direct your mind to us and to are. I have enough bread. Can I think of anybody I know who doesn't have enough bread? Unless you like walk around the city Portland going like this, you're likely to notice that people don't have bread. What are you going to do about that? What does it mean for God's kingdom to come for his will to be done? I'm somebody who says, I love God, but Jesus says, yeah, that's great. So how are you loving your neighbor? Are you with me here? So, you know, forgive us. Forgive me. God, I'm really screwed up. Forgive me. And at the same time,
Starting point is 00:37:26 Jesus says, yeah, and also look outward. Who is it that you haven't forgiven? He immediately pushes you out. us. Lead us not into temptation. Deliver us from the evil one. You may be in a season where you're going through an incredibly difficult trial and your faithfulness to Jesus is being tested. You may not. My guess is you know somebody who is undergoing this time of testing. And what the prayer is meant to do is get your mind off of yourself and out onto how God's kingdom can come in and through you loving God and loving your neighbor by actually like doing something. In other words, the second half of the prayer is both a prayer but assumes that God's people will begin to become the answers to that prayer in their very actions. You guys with me here. So it seems to me what Jesus has
Starting point is 00:38:13 given us is something like, something like this. So I have, here's sheet music right here, just from this valley. Wasn't that a great song? What are you supposed to do with this? Here's the text of his song. What are you supposed to do with it? Well, and if you look, it's not just the lyrics has the title and then it has all these letters like B and F sharp and E and so on like in between the lines and then chorus and then O O O times two and then chorus with tag some of you know what that means that's code or something like that so well if I were to give this to you what you should not do with it is like go like put it in your pocket and then go out for a cup of coffee tomorrow and just be like read it be like
Starting point is 00:38:56 hmm that's really interesting or something no the point of these words on this page is to perform them, right? And it actually has all of these little things in there that tell you how to do it and how to carry it out. It seems to me that that's exactly what the Lord's prayer is. It both tells you what God is up to, and then it immediately, and so you align yourself with that, but then you immediately force yourself to start praying for how you are going to be a part of what God is doing to bring his kingdom. Jesus is brilliant. Let's just give it to him right now. I mean, it's amazing. This is really an amazing prayer. And so now all of a sudden, saying this prayer isn't about just like saying the words. These words become a window for how you're
Starting point is 00:39:41 living your life. This is a prayer that's meant to become like scaffolding, as it were, that we build our lives on. And every day, you're out there wondering like, holy cow, who do I need to forgive? You guys with me here on that part. I could riff on that for a long time, but I think I've made my point. we'll come back to it so how how how how often like when did jesus envision that we say this prayer because i think he actually like had something in mind when he said when you pray pray this i think he meant it i don't know you guys i think he actually meant it like we're actually no not that this should only be the only thing we pray surely there's spontaneous prayer there's group prayer, Thanksgiving, and so on. But Jesus seems to actually think that this prayer,
Starting point is 00:40:27 again, the wording, short, long, but the core is the heart of it and the two halves. Jesus seemed to think that this prayer plays some sort of regular role in the lives of his disciples. How and what does that look like? Well, let's go back to the sources, right? I mean, he just says it right there. When you pray, say, I think he means that. Where did Jesus learn to pray? And what were the patterns of prayer that Jesus adopted. Well, let's go to the prayer that he quoted from in the story that we just read in the greatest commandment. He quoted the greatest prayer of Judaism called the Shama. And look how the Shama begins. Here, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is our God, the Lord alone. There's some translation issues there. Or the Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord of God with all your heart,
Starting point is 00:41:12 with all your soul, with all your mind. Keep these words that I'm commanding you today in your heart. How do you keep words in your heart so that these words form the center of how you see everything and live? Oh, I have an idea. How about like saying them often? That's one way. Right? So, recite them to your children and talk about them when you're at home and when you're away, when you lie down and when you ride. So, you know, as like the Western Protestant Christian, of course, we want to dodge all of this, and we're just like, it's just truly a recommendation that we might think about praying two times a day. It's like, actually doesn't seem like that, does it? If you, like, want to associate yourself with this tradition, this is how you roll. When you lie down and when you're
Starting point is 00:41:59 eyes. So we're at least talking what? At least twice, but then there's all this, you know, when you're at home, when you're away throughout the day. So what's that? And so you got Moses here. 500 years later, we hear a reference by David to not just prayer at the beginning, but but also a midday prayer. So Psalm 55, David says, as for me, I call to God and the Lord saves me. Evening, morning, noon. I cry out in distress, here's my voice. Five hundred years after David, we find Daniel, and he's in Babylon, and this is developed into a full-blown. This is just what you do. So when Daniel learned that the decree of his execution had been published, he went upstairs to his room, and the windows opened to Jerusalem three times a day. He got down.
Starting point is 00:42:44 on his knees, and he prayed. And then in the 500 years from Daniel to Jesus, all the Jewish writing and tradition that we have just assumes this. This is just what you do. You pray morning, afternoon, evening. And what do you pray? You pray the shama. You pray the shama prayer. That's just what you do. So when Jesus here begins and says, when you all pray, don't be like the hypocrites. I think many of us, we've kind of said to ourselves, yeah, exactly, the hypocrites because they, like, have turned prayer into an old dead ritual, and they do it at set times, and they don't even mean it. But that's not actually what he says, is it?
Starting point is 00:43:25 He doesn't say, like, don't have habits and rhythms of prayer. The problem with prayer becoming dead ritual is us, not the practice. You guys with me? The problem is us. Jesus seems to think the practice is really important. So he just assumes it. When you all pray, pray like this. And so notice what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:43:45 He's asking his followers to transform the shama into something even bigger. Love the Lord your God, but love your neighbor as yourself. Because the Lord's prayer is a way of saying love God and love people. And the first clues we have about the prayer lives of the earliest Christian show exactly this pattern right here. I'm just inundating you on purpose right now, just to show you that I'm not making this up. So in the book of Acts chapter two, all the disciples are there. They're following what? They're following the apostles teaching fellowship, the breaking of bread, and they're devoting themselves to the prayers. Some of your English translations don't include that plural. I don't know why because it's right there in the original language. They're devoting themselves to prayers. Some of your English translations do have plural right there. And that's right because it's a reference to morning, afternoon, evening prayer. It's just assumed. Chapter 3. One day, Peter and John were going up to the temple at the time of prayer, about three in the afternoon. This is introducing a story about Peter and John that's not about prayer at all. It's just something else happens.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But it's just assumed, like, you know, like Christians do. You pray at 3 p.m. right? We're all like American Protestants. We're all like, ah? Like what? It's like, ah, it's just what you do. Chapter 10, this one's really interesting. This is a non-Jewish person who's become a Christian. As Cessaria, there was a man named Cornelius. He was a centurion. He served in the Roman army, for goodness sake. What was known as the Italian cohort, he was a devout man, feared God with his household, he gave alms generously to the people.
Starting point is 00:45:19 He prayed continually to God. What does that mean? What does a life marked by continual prayer look like? Well, he says it later on in the chapter. He says, yeah, about four days ago, about this hour, I was praying in my house at the ninth hour, which by their clock is what we would call three. It's just what you do. And you go out of the New Testament and the earliest traditions we have to like the one hundreds of the early Christianity.
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's clear teachings about Christians praying the Lord's prayer three times a day. So as I've done a number of times in this series, so there you go. I'm just going to lob that at you. And, you know, my whole point of like showing you all of this is just to say like, this is you in Jesus and you in the scriptures. And whether you think this practice is not biblical, I just leave you to use your brain and think about that one. But just think about what's happening. Are we talking about three times a day you go spend an hour in prayer? Is that what Jesus is talking about? It takes you 45 seconds to say the prayer. So the point is this habit. You intentionally interrupt your life to remind yourself about the Jesus creed and of who Jesus is and what's most important to him and
Starting point is 00:46:34 what's most important to one of his followers. And as I've kind of rediscovered or adopted this practice in my life in the last few years, it's actually the midday prayer that has become the most awesome experience. Because the whole point is don't let people know you're doing it. Like just pause and do it. Nobody should know. And here's what you'll find yourself doing. You'll find yourself at the oddest random places saying the Lord's Prayer. And all of a sudden, these words that you are so familiar with, they are connecting and there's new things happening because of where you were saying it. You'll see somebody who clearly does not have bread when you're saying the Lord's Prayer. And just let Jesus mess with you on that one, right? You'll be in your workplace, and there's all
Starting point is 00:47:18 these crabby people who hate each other. And then praying for forgiveness in that kind of setting. Whoa. And it gets your mind spinning. And then, of course, if you just prayed, may your kingdom come, and if I'm one of your followers and I'm a part of your kingdom coming, then what on earth do I need to do about that? There you go. It'll mess with you, especially the midday prayer I have found. So there you go. I trust that the Holy Spirit will guide us as a church
Starting point is 00:47:41 to become the kinds of praying people that the Spirit wants us to become. But this is very powerful, and the Lord's Prayer, there's a universe in it, and there's a whole life to be discovered by weaving this prayer into our hearts and to our mind. That's enough. I just want to let you sit with that.
Starting point is 00:47:57 But as we close and as we try, transition into worship, which is our time to reflect and to pray and to think about what it means to respond to this. I want to play you something. It's a Syrian nun singing the Lord's prayer in Aramaic. Aramaic was the language that Jesus spoke this prayer in. And there's a church in the old city of Jerusalem called St. Mark's Assyrian Orthodox Church. It's one of the oldest churches in the world. All of the liturgy, their prayers and people's praying prayers, monks and nuns there. And they're praying the liturgy, mostly in Aramaic, which was the language that the first Christians mostly prayed in. And there's a precious nun there. I was there about
Starting point is 00:48:38 seven years ago. I just had a friend who was there recently, and the same nun is there in the same little church in that old little alleyway in Jerusalem. And three times a day, she leads whoever is there in saying the Lord's prayer. She sings it in Aramaic. And so I'd like to play it for you. And it's long, she goes through it very slow, three minutes, three minutes long. But three minutes versus it would be like, is she really still saying the Lord's prayer? Like, could it take that long? But yes, she's talking really slow. But I just encourage you to just let, be open-minded to this and let the Lord really guide you as to what it would look like for you to somehow respond to Jesus' teachings about prayer. But the time is ours just to respond Jesus now.
Starting point is 00:49:30 All right, you guys, that wraps up this three-part series in the next. episode, we'll open a new series, explore all kinds of new things from my strange Bible and your strange Bible. You guys, thanks for listening to the podcast, and I hope these are helpful for you. They're so helpful for me. Personally, it's such a privilege to be able to both learn and prepare for all these teachings and then to release them out into the body of Jesus' followers. So if they're helpful for you, feel free to spread the word about this podcast, share it with your friends, you can share a review on iTunes, and cheers. We'll see you next time.

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