EXTRA ANORMAL - 100 | Historias Paranormales con @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE y @nomiresporlaventana ​

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Hello, Welcome to a one capital more of podcast extra an normal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to be here with all of you.
Starting point is 00:00:23 This occasion is a occasion is a really special because the net, today we're we're talking
Starting point is 00:00:29 the chapter 100 of podcast extra normal family, many thanks. I'm very content to
Starting point is 00:00:35 have got to get out of that this capit and what more than to be the two
Starting point is 00:00:39 people that all you they're in a one one one one
Starting point is 00:00:43 so I'm my good good Kike Wurta how is excellent
Starting point is 00:00:47 my great Paco Arias much congratulations for this number
Starting point is 00:00:51 magical, more than 100,000 subcriptors, chapter number 100. What I can say?
Starting point is 00:00:58 A dream. And also on the other side of the panel. My good friend, Ais, that is the
Starting point is 00:01:04 narrator of podcast, let us do what you know this, Michael. Paco, Kike,
Starting point is 00:01:10 to you, a audience, a great a great a lot of a lot of a family extranormal.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Very very good, very very good you know so I'm said that the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yes, brother. Contentissimo to have yet yet to this point. And well, to tell to all the audience, that no be there's until until, because the theme of this night, we're going to be two excellent narrators, platiccoulding
Starting point is 00:01:34 stories, anecdotas, and legends of pantions. So, not you do you, get to at all final, because this apennas to put very interesting. Well, we're going to start with this chapter, chico, the net I'm very enthusiastic. I don't see
Starting point is 00:01:50 You'd want to hear you Because you think That when we're When we're going to We have to think In phantasmas In entities, in Apparitions
Starting point is 00:02:00 Why do you think You know, Keeke Fiatte We're talking The Panteon Like a A place Santo
Starting point is 00:02:10 And I think No is Contemporaneous Since the Antigues Civilizations Entendian That was
Starting point is 00:02:15 A place But but also even of transition for the time is very
Starting point is 00:02:22 carried of things spiritual religious and with a mysticism that he does that
Starting point is 00:02:29 that supernatural I think that is important and you my good friend
Starting point is 00:02:37 what you think that what you want I'm that I think that
Starting point is 00:02:42 never me I've thought that the cemterios have this Cargneutral I mean
Starting point is 00:02:49 to enter I think the the carga energetic you know you know you know these
Starting point is 00:02:56 emotions negative the sadness the fear the can be this element of this
Starting point is 00:03:02 type of entities like oscura and I think the pancheons are in a place
Starting point is 00:03:07 especially in many cases of this type of matices emotional and in
Starting point is 00:03:13 groups great apart to the long of decades years and
Starting point is 00:03:18 some of the other places as to many years so I think could be that it's for some
Starting point is 00:03:23 people to a portal to bring this type of entities and I think that this comes
Starting point is 00:03:29 from much before the civilizations that we knowcese always the places of repos
Starting point is 00:03:35 have been that mysticism and fiftate that to give to give
Starting point is 00:03:40 to this night of let us let us let us put us with
Starting point is 00:03:45 the question with a story that I'm going to get, I want to know those those points
Starting point is 00:03:49 of the point of because I like much to tell stories that about stories that in my
Starting point is 00:03:53 state, of people that they experimented, let us, a experience a family,
Starting point is 00:04:01 a familiar in the sense of that very possibly this phenomenon because
Starting point is 00:04:07 here also, you know, when we are, when we're we're not,
Starting point is 00:04:11 the day of Murtos, that for those who are in Mexico, the day of
Starting point is 00:04:14 the So, so it's celebrate the 1 and 2 of November of every year, so they celebrate, this festivity, this tradition chenna of color, is a tradition that
Starting point is 00:04:24 at least a me a man, a lot, to you do? Yeah, as, as, as, as, part of the
Starting point is 00:04:31 culture Mexican, and, and, it's something with much history, it's something very transcendental,
Starting point is 00:04:38 because the the, the, the murdered in Mexico since times pre-His Hispanics, and not only
Starting point is 00:04:45 in Mexico, in some other cultures, but I think in this theme of the mestizage was something was over-vivient,
Starting point is 00:04:53 and they were incahanging with the thing of the religion Catholic with this celebration of all the
Starting point is 00:05:00 saints, the fieles diffunto. Exactly. And, well, this story passed,
Starting point is 00:05:05 me to me to be a person that today has a year, and he said that
Starting point is 00:05:09 this occurred when he only he only 12 years. He lived in a part of Oaxaca, me
Starting point is 00:05:15 he said that not exactly the name, for respect to the place, but he was he did he was, you have to,
Starting point is 00:05:21 he was his entrentiment because he said that the one and two there were people who were to
Starting point is 00:05:27 to clean and to paint tumbas. So the people that would have to let him, let us
Starting point is 00:05:35 all this to flowers, well, he was always always doing the service not, he was here
Starting point is 00:05:39 painting tombas, that he was going to la tumbas. So he he's
Starting point is 00:05:43 He said He said He said that He was a morning He went to He went to He went to
Starting point is 00:05:49 time to get to get to the time. This for that he reunier a sufficient
Starting point is 00:05:55 water for all the people, all of his clients that could get to get to his
Starting point is 00:06:02 cubetas and he he was yeah with his bicycle and he he was runbo
Starting point is 00:06:05 to the pantheon he was managing he He said he with a lot
Starting point is 00:06:13 was, it was a little clarito and he he said that in the pantheon in the
Starting point is 00:06:17 part of that's where is where this this place where emasen
Starting point is 00:06:23 the water and he was getting the cubetas and he was just putting us because
Starting point is 00:06:28 he said in some hours this this place this place will be this
Starting point is 00:06:31 this place so in this moment this he he's the lament
Starting point is 00:06:37 of a woman and he he's he's he's is that it's
Starting point is 00:06:41 very very and when when I look at back she does know
Starting point is 00:06:45 that's that I'm that's like in a tomb and this woman she does
Starting point is 00:06:53 know that he's in observable in that he's he's spanta because
Starting point is 00:06:58 the lament of this woman he he describes that he produced something
Starting point is 00:07:03 he produced not fear like but it produced a kind of a
Starting point is 00:07:08 desperate that he desperable a In that moment, he took the bicycle and decide to go, but here's where it
Starting point is 00:07:16 is where it's what extraordinary, and I'm at around, that he starts to pedalear, and he says that something that was, that was I was, that
Starting point is 00:07:24 I was, and the the worse and more the first, that was what was what he was what he was that, he, how the woman
Starting point is 00:07:35 is parable, the over the tomb where was about, like levita or flota and be how it's like it's like if disappear in that moment that she's that's that's
Starting point is 00:07:47 he's that's back in the reality advance in the bicycle all spantado, all of sustado, he's got his house he goes to the cubets with water he goes to his family
Starting point is 00:07:59 and then this experience he's a lot of attention when they're going to visitate this is what he does like the change complete to the history when he,
Starting point is 00:08:09 he, he, they're going to revisar the tomb where that was lamenting
Starting point is 00:08:14 is where they're where they're a woman that in life was he said as Melita
Starting point is 00:08:22 he said that Melita was a young of approximately 19 years that this
Starting point is 00:08:28 fallece the day of her a cause to that that the ex-pereja of his
Starting point is 00:08:35 prometido he put veneno So the day of her Boda, she unfortunately piered the life.
Starting point is 00:08:44 This is a tragedy and at the two days, his promise he quitted the life of so
Starting point is 00:08:50 so this this legend to generate a part of from the years after the impressionate is
Starting point is 00:08:58 that he me and said he didn't that he he didn't but his abuelos when she
Starting point is 00:09:03 were the famous Melita the which every year she to her tomb,
Starting point is 00:09:09 because that never could do enjoy of his matrimonial as she's because of this woman.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So this story me and it's very impressive because we talk about a type of entity.
Starting point is 00:09:22 No I could say a vengative because not he did a this child but if
Starting point is 00:09:28 he's a shus no? You know, what do you? Eyes, how is this you?
Starting point is 00:09:34 It's there are there are entities that It seems that if were like
Starting point is 00:09:40 the rest of the rest of the person but a sometimes not corresponden with the personality
Starting point is 00:09:46 of when it was to be the impression for the type of interaction that is
Starting point is 00:09:51 an entity oscura although it's a little one once I talked
Starting point is 00:09:54 with Jose Ramon can to the and he he he said
Starting point is 00:09:59 he said he said he mentioned that sometimes the entities
Starting point is 00:10:03 oscures don't they don't do do so grand
Starting point is 00:10:06 simply they're simply they're insertate a little doubt about the
Starting point is 00:10:11 what is more great if the bad or the so if you have a
Starting point is 00:10:15 interaction that to roba your tranquillity that this sensation
Starting point is 00:10:20 of pass then could be part of the mission of this
Starting point is 00:10:23 type of things wow you do you think you think
Starting point is 00:10:27 that certainly certainly what I say some some some
Starting point is 00:10:32 people concordar with contrary to what you mention as narrator some us aferramos to that idea
Starting point is 00:10:41 romantic to be to be to be to be and much many times we're the
Starting point is 00:10:48 sensation when we are present in dreams or the people that has related this
Starting point is 00:10:53 type of apparitions we we're the sense of that they're more
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm going a more there there there stories of the
Starting point is 00:11:01 people where even even even a record in these acercements
Starting point is 00:11:09 paranormal. From, the form in the work in the tenses oscuros, I think
Starting point is 00:11:16 it's based in the fact of confunding us, but I, I, here,
Starting point is 00:11:21 I'm a different, and I'm of the idea of that there, I'm, I want to
Starting point is 00:11:28 see the side romantico, no, there those encounters, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:32 that are more more positive, more puros, more natural, more of the record, no? That's, they're looking reconfortartartarting,
Starting point is 00:11:40 maybe. Okay. Well, look, what we can't be sure, I think is a phenomenon, the qual, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:49 me, if it's a bad, or so, well, it's always it's like a bad experience,
Starting point is 00:11:54 is what I, well, I consider, but I don't see if you have any story that you want
Starting point is 00:12:01 to share, caballieros, in this night of relato. Kike, for favor?
Starting point is 00:12:05 No, I'm oh, yeah, what honor me going to get like in the
Starting point is 00:12:10 prime in the I'm in the story and I'm and the character. Fygette
Starting point is 00:12:15 that if I have a story that I called much the attention this history
Starting point is 00:12:22 I don't contrary to what I know to talk Paco that is a
Starting point is 00:12:26 story of our place of Wauaca I'm I put more international
Starting point is 00:12:32 and I and me It's the attention because it's of a repent a
Starting point is 00:12:36 a thing a very delicate I'm to let's
Starting point is 00:12:42 let's talk about in Finlandia this in Europe and where
Starting point is 00:12:50 there is a cemetery very very very particular in
Starting point is 00:12:55 this community finland that about the about the history
Starting point is 00:13:00 and has many years was very criticated the woman
Starting point is 00:13:08 that of a conceivia without being being casted no
Starting point is 00:13:14 yeah was so when no there was when no a man
Starting point is 00:13:18 when was a cataloging like a a a woman
Starting point is 00:13:22 of a good or no dignes the the poor
Starting point is 00:13:25 no no and so so this this this is
Starting point is 00:13:29 an anti and cruel and horrible custom of desacers
Starting point is 00:13:34 of the product we're I think it's a secret for anyone
Starting point is 00:13:40 of those we're talking this history and and in this
Starting point is 00:13:45 place in this Camposanto in this cemetery what was that was
Starting point is 00:13:52 that there was a kind of a filter there had
Starting point is 00:13:55 an encarg in the people that dicta who
Starting point is 00:14:01 could acceder to the cemetery and who can not could acceder
Starting point is 00:14:06 to the cemetery naturally that these these these little
Starting point is 00:14:12 defunters that were cuted of the vintre maternal no they were
Starting point is 00:14:19 to access to a entierro religious digno so so
Starting point is 00:14:25 so a space not official to put to enterer these little these
Starting point is 00:14:42 little were sepelios that were in conditions of alto secret with much verguenza
Starting point is 00:14:51 indignos and very mal-vist for the society and here here begins
Starting point is 00:14:57 to take tints yeah more more more the not to do
Starting point is 00:15:03 a plen the light of the day, then they were to do the night or the
Starting point is 00:15:08 night when the people yeah not and it and this and this starts
Starting point is 00:15:13 to generate the the legend of this cemetery. It was a quantity quite
Starting point is 00:15:21 great of the little cruces that were around the
Starting point is 00:15:25 pantheon and it was a community Finland what was
Starting point is 00:15:29 what was a a secret for nobody basically but all they're to avoid
Starting point is 00:15:36 the thing because he's to get people to other
Starting point is 00:15:40 communities to that that some armandos with this
Starting point is 00:15:46 this situation for these women that were they were
Starting point is 00:15:51 they were in all those the things with
Starting point is 00:15:54 the act the the detail my great narrator
Starting point is 00:15:58 Paco is that after some time in this community the
Starting point is 00:16:05 people started to get a voice on a strange yantto during
Starting point is 00:16:12 the nights in the houses in the houses I could hear
Starting point is 00:16:19 the the yantto not of one but many little
Starting point is 00:16:24 little babies that were they were certainly for a little
Starting point is 00:16:29 of justice and for the opportunity to have a an entierro
Starting point is 00:16:34 digno. This then it began to inquietar much to all the people
Starting point is 00:16:39 and a little a community was organizing and was making conscientia
Starting point is 00:16:46 about this act and it was the moment in that was
Starting point is 00:16:51 so insupportable the being listening all the nights
Starting point is 00:16:55 these these the people that decided to take those
Starting point is 00:17:02 these bodies, scabar around the panteon and depositor them in a
Starting point is 00:17:08 fosia in honor to these little this is a relato a quite
Starting point is 00:17:17 obscure and complicated no I think that he can
Starting point is 00:17:23 get much to get much to sensibilized to the person but However, well,
Starting point is 00:17:27 also I don't imagine to live at the Panteon and start listening all the night's the baby that's,
Starting point is 00:17:34 the baby's, the baby's and here no you're not you know, you know you don't you pass
Starting point is 00:17:40 the lance with this I don't see if it's on the microphone but
Starting point is 00:17:45 something, something, something, what, well, as we're we're in the exterior
Starting point is 00:17:49 really we're going to start to experiment a good of the Ruidos and sounds
Starting point is 00:17:55 that can filter from from the perors, the grills, animals that are there
Starting point is 00:18:02 are doing some who? There's to enjoy the experience. But in based of what
Starting point is 00:18:08 you say what you say what you say what you know, it's not it I think
Starting point is 00:18:13 to put to put a proof the fact that is a thing that is very
Starting point is 00:18:18 controvertida is something that's something when we're being applicating so
Starting point is 00:18:21 when when we about when we about we But what I think That's what I think That's
Starting point is 00:18:26 I always I always I've said I've said Entities Infantiles And it's something that
Starting point is 00:18:32 I've been About much with the most Powerosos of those that can generate
Starting point is 00:18:37 a Traumatica Summante Impresionate Or you What do you What do you Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:18:44 In the history of Kike me He gave to two Microrrelatos that are here of
Starting point is 00:18:50 my And that there are much people that say that not are not are that's
Starting point is 00:18:57 a situation that's a situation that was a Monterrey in in his initials
Starting point is 00:19:04 was a city was a small conform he was growing and
Starting point is 00:19:09 there were people people were generating or creating cities very
Starting point is 00:19:14 certain to Monterey so were expanding these metrop
Starting point is 00:19:18 and then it transformed the area that It's known as the area metropolitan
Starting point is 00:19:21 that really is the connection between various cities. Well, this is those I'll tell you, because when they were the cities small, the infrastructure and the how
Starting point is 00:19:31 they thought, was changing much, conformed were passing the years. So, here in Monterrey,
Starting point is 00:19:38 if it's a fact, is the place in that this school, before is a cemetery.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So, here, it passed much. I think the situation was because they were
Starting point is 00:19:48 because they're properties of the state. And then simply decided that now I was going to do with other use and list. But within of these
Starting point is 00:19:57 places, there were a panteon that, at the day of today, I think, yeah no exists, justly, because this is transformed in other property, in the way many people, in the decade of the 70,
Starting point is 00:20:08 finales of the 60, until I think, in the initials of the 80, they said that they were some countries,
Starting point is 00:20:17 not can say that macabro, per se, but I think that nobody could have an encounter
Starting point is 00:20:24 of this type. In this place, there was a very specific in the cemetery,
Starting point is 00:20:31 in the all you could be because there was a bank of a side of
Starting point is 00:20:36 a farola. And this farola was a farola very an farola not had
Starting point is 00:20:40 no no fok and even even even for a
Starting point is 00:20:42 well so he used to use so many
Starting point is 00:20:45 many many many many decades, simply was there was there
Starting point is 00:20:49 and the bank also, although the people were to the cemetery, or to visit him,
Starting point is 00:20:57 to visit it, to say, to form spiritual, nobody tend to use that bank, except an
Starting point is 00:21:05 anciana. Much people during these years said to have been seen a person there
Starting point is 00:21:11 and that if you had been much time, she percatable that you
Starting point is 00:21:17 and in occasions there are people who have seen to the anciana that they
Starting point is 00:21:21 they said some of others not and those and those they had and they they were
Starting point is 00:21:28 they were and they were plattices intrasendent we are talking of a time in which the
Starting point is 00:21:34 people not that the people not about so they're they're they're a person
Starting point is 00:21:39 good where you where it's the part that's that with the years, it
Starting point is 00:21:45 discovered that bach really never was a back. In this
Starting point is 00:21:51 bank, there's a statue of an an statue. And that never
Starting point is 00:21:56 moved, never they never changed. It was this little
Starting point is 00:22:01 monument and it was the farola, the bank and the an
Starting point is 00:22:04 man. The Anciana pesable that not that so they
Starting point is 00:22:08 couldn't much that the impact came because when the
Starting point is 00:22:14 The people about the statue of the Anciana there was a lot of people. Because some
Starting point is 00:22:19 people said, I don't the statue. And where they were in the place. I said,
Starting point is 00:22:23 I'm doing and I'm talking with a senior major, but no, there's a cemetery.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And when they were the statue there was a place. So, then they were a type of
Starting point is 00:22:34 a stua that cobrabba and this was impactante because I've heard a story,
Starting point is 00:22:40 but I had seen to ask me to people that in that time we were in
Starting point is 00:22:46 the floor of their youth and me said, there were there's many people that were
Starting point is 00:22:52 my my my tia or my subrinita there. There were much
Starting point is 00:22:59 people that said that they did they did they get to have contact with this
Starting point is 00:23:03 senior major and that some to get to their family that not
Starting point is 00:23:07 a statue that was a person a person so that's one of the
Starting point is 00:23:12 Monterey that are like for me impactants and the other is a story very short but very strong because until the day
Starting point is 00:23:20 of today there there are people that say that they have talked to live this situation. Dentro of
Starting point is 00:23:25 these there was one that in decades earlier it was very, very very, very, very
Starting point is 00:23:30 great. After the the state he took a pedaso and there put a
Starting point is 00:23:35 school, a school very known here in Monterey a secondary. That
Starting point is 00:23:39 Cement the section that So, let's say I think I think they they're just in front to a cemetery that is great
Starting point is 00:23:48 but reduced because they they're a space very small. And there were many years that the people when passed there after the
Starting point is 00:23:57 10 of the night, they were a violin that was a violin that was talking and in occasions
Starting point is 00:24:03 had a company of other and it and it was very strange because no were hours of visit
Starting point is 00:24:09 and those cemeterios they have some porthones very great and not have an access and they're
Starting point is 00:24:15 a lot of many times and in the part of the part of the walls, during many years they
Starting point is 00:24:19 were to put these bottles and things that were that you were that badas
Starting point is 00:24:25 bards. Well, during much time there were chavos young that were
Starting point is 00:24:31 in the cemetery to know to know who was who was talking and when
Starting point is 00:24:36 when they were at the cemetery always occurred the same. The violin or the violins they'd have to talk, but
Starting point is 00:24:43 they were orientating for the sound of where they'd have listened, and always get them at the same point. The statue of a a new with a violin. And that statue is here. Ah, the video. It's in this cemetery. And at day of today, there are people that say, that when
Starting point is 00:24:58 they're going to pass in the night, after the 10, a at times in the madrugada has been a day of day today of
Starting point is 00:25:04 today of that's a day of you know, uh, oh yeah, no they need
Starting point is 00:25:09 a vocalist no what you're going to do you're going to packo here
Starting point is 00:25:15 to the camera no, okay to you that you think you think that
Starting point is 00:25:20 you can't the terror I think you're going to be incredible
Starting point is 00:25:22 for you the I'm I'm going to do I'm
Starting point is 00:25:26 oh yeah no this the the net is that that
Starting point is 00:25:30 imagine to be I'm going to be I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm in the house of
Starting point is 00:25:35 you know if I'm if I used the guitar during the day of the day of the morning and
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm I'm going to I'm always to return to a fund I don't like that the guitar
Starting point is 00:25:49 so expuester or if yeah of I'm going I'm going to I'm going to move a dead
Starting point is 00:25:54 the only what I'm that I'm the guitar with the you know, in the sofa or in a sillion or
Starting point is 00:26:03 over some of the cameras and I do I do to tell manner that no I can't come anybody to give me to dar serenata. I, I, I, so I'm really, you know? Oh, and, pardon, I, no, I know, I was going to
Starting point is 00:26:16 tell you, no, I'm prepared. But you know, you know, but you know, how are I, for what I invite? Venga, come, Kike. But my, my, my, esteemado, narrator, Isista that I
Starting point is 00:26:25 Acordara Yeah in in some episodes I've I've talked about the city of Orisava that is a
Starting point is 00:26:33 city of Orisava of the state of Veracru here in Mexico Pue Pue Machico is
Starting point is 00:26:38 a city full of legends of stories, of mystery of terror of many
Starting point is 00:26:44 things very very beautiful I mean the really is that also
Starting point is 00:26:49 a place to be a touristic padriss I live there
Starting point is 00:26:52 a couple of years and now has grown much,
Starting point is 00:26:55 of my respect for Orisava. But in the touristic that has Orisava is the Panteon
Starting point is 00:27:01 Juan de the Lus Enrique that's the pantheon municipal of Orisava as
Starting point is 00:27:06 as you going if you travel in bus of the south
Starting point is 00:27:10 of the country to the side of the city of the you
Starting point is 00:27:15 you're you going to you get to the POT the
Starting point is 00:27:19 Concordia the I can remember as it out of y'er. What de mystic
Starting point is 00:27:25 has this panteon? Well, more or less or the years 1900, 1,910
Starting point is 00:27:31 there a ponderada family Spanish that came around to the city to live.
Starting point is 00:27:39 They conceived after after his matrimonio to a little
Starting point is 00:27:45 anita was your name. Oh, I'm not me's equivocating of
Starting point is 00:27:50 the name. No, here is the better I don't know
Starting point is 00:27:52 because then I reagania Anna Maria Dolores Segura and Couto this little
Starting point is 00:27:58 of this pair of this pair of Spanioles that went to live to the city of
Starting point is 00:28:03 Urisaba unfortunately to the age of six years perdi the
Starting point is 00:28:09 there there one of the versions one of the was a cause of
Starting point is 00:28:16 meningitis and another more tragic and that the little anita
Starting point is 00:28:20 while his parents were of a voyage out of the country, was accanced playing with with a bela
Starting point is 00:28:30 for the yamah, his vestido was on and there's there's two versions and surely
Starting point is 00:28:36 the local orisabeos my friends Chayoteros tendran but well the point is
Starting point is 00:28:43 that in the middle of this family and standing out of the
Starting point is 00:28:50 country, uh, uh, they're rapidly of the news, to what
Starting point is 00:28:55 they're a decision, to honor to honor to her little Anita,
Starting point is 00:29:02 uh, the way that they considered better and was doing
Starting point is 00:29:07 an encargo of an work to a Ruhnald Cuanili was
Starting point is 00:29:15 a statue, a tomb a base of marmol Marmol Marmol de Carrara
Starting point is 00:29:24 has tried from Italy and what he tally this artist was a figure in
Starting point is 00:29:30 a time real of the little Anita recostada road of flowers
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm sure that my friend Paco with the magic of the edition in
Starting point is 00:29:39 this moment they're they're but well another of this
Starting point is 00:29:45 they mandan a petition of the parents of sculptor to
Starting point is 00:29:50 put a an angel in the like what would be the header of this work,
Starting point is 00:29:58 an angel with the arm and the alas extended and was located in the Panteon
Starting point is 00:30:04 Juan de the Luce Enrique and they are going to say well and this what
Starting point is 00:30:08 has to the legend radica in the next also also form
Starting point is 00:30:14 part of the recorrials nocturns for the panteon orisavee
Starting point is 00:30:17 because exist also, where there are many legends. We're going to go. We're going to. So, the legend radica in that
Starting point is 00:30:26 to say, to the people that visit the tomb of Anita and, and, as the the people,
Starting point is 00:30:32 the pantheon, they're they're in no moment during the day the rations of the sun
Starting point is 00:30:42 to come the rostro of the sculpture of anita. Some Some people say that the
Starting point is 00:30:49 angel's was designed in a way that his alas and their hands are that the
Starting point is 00:30:55 sun never give in the rostro of the little a little statue yeah
Starting point is 00:30:59 other other people count and they've that have seen in some occasions
Starting point is 00:31:06 to the anger movers the legend has got to that
Starting point is 00:31:11 the and then it's rekecing of the culture popular
Starting point is 00:31:15 of the Mexican that They aconcees that the people that visit in the
Starting point is 00:31:20 tomb of Anita get a rose and rest in three Abes Marias for the eternal
Starting point is 00:31:26 descans of the little. There is a legend urban that says that
Starting point is 00:31:32 in some a group of people who went of the school passed
Starting point is 00:31:37 for the tomb to be to see and offrendar and
Starting point is 00:31:42 that the other the last the last little the group
Starting point is 00:31:46 when when he does the world, Sient a Gump in the head and go to the soil.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Some people say, and this, well, it's the little part of the legend of the
Starting point is 00:31:57 culture popular, that was a goal of the salas of the angel
Starting point is 00:32:01 and that even the mother of this child, he had to go when he
Starting point is 00:32:07 and he he platic what he said, it's he said, we're we're
Starting point is 00:32:11 we're going to give some a tomb to the handita and to give
Starting point is 00:32:14 a angel for having passed without this offender. A
Starting point is 00:32:18 okay. A richisima history very close of where we'reisava Veracruz Cerquita
Starting point is 00:32:25 the tomb of the little and the angel that no never that the light of the
Starting point is 00:32:30 light of that I've heard of I'm not you know I'm it's very commovedora
Starting point is 00:32:37 very really good in comparison with the stories that I see of statues of
Starting point is 00:32:42 marmol for Here here here you you're to put your image Yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:46 it's a bit Yeah, like this I'm going to yeah, it's a little this is the type of,
Starting point is 00:32:52 of, we know, of experiences or of stories, legends that they generate something
Starting point is 00:32:57 because of experiences of statues of marmol we, also we, we, also we're
Starting point is 00:33:03 we're in Veracruz. Where is the Blancanieres that all the world and in
Starting point is 00:33:09 some moment saw the the video, the fragment. You did the narrator? Yes, yes,
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yes, yeah, so I saw impressive in the place is that, yeah, before it's the park of diversions, is right, thematic of Disney, well,
Starting point is 00:33:24 really at the day of today, the day of today, the people can't find tombas, can't find restos that,
Starting point is 00:33:32 of some of those were removed so, so much people, I don't go to be about, but I
Starting point is 00:33:37 agree for the statue, but I'm a statue of Blan Canebes moving. Even there a video
Starting point is 00:33:42 very viral that in his moment I'm parted also where this is a statue that's a statue that's a statue that's
Starting point is 00:33:50 a statue that's other other people of the people were they were to the statu
Starting point is 00:33:57 moving to balling around of Blancaneaves so it's a place a supermatic mysterious
Starting point is 00:34:05 the people that has done has done Urbex to this part of Mexico
Starting point is 00:34:12 that is Veracru specifically in Reign Magical, has said to experimented a sensation very
Starting point is 00:34:19 very strong, like there's a carg energy energy very strong in this Blanceneves. One of
Starting point is 00:34:25 one of a creator of content that had this detector like the type of
Starting point is 00:34:29 different like that they're in the area that that's
Starting point is 00:34:34 that much the amount of there I. So I see that video
Starting point is 00:34:38 in a reel that showed to me It appears to Facebook that the apparatito
Starting point is 00:34:42 was marking in red, so that no there was a person closer to the statue, the fletcha
Starting point is 00:34:50 of volat is a maximum, showing a high quantity of the carg and then
Starting point is 00:34:56 I said, in his moment, what I wanted to get to right right they moved
Starting point is 00:35:00 to the place, now not there's a but it's something impressive because
Starting point is 00:35:07 I'm a statue that is also a like of marmal that would have like to move if it's not
Starting point is 00:35:12 articulations but I want to talk other experience that I'm manned the people and it's
Starting point is 00:35:19 that you get you but the cotation in front of this place reyno
Starting point is 00:35:25 is the panteon the cemetery particular Veracruusan yeah even even in the
Starting point is 00:35:30 park there's too there's there's not so it's been to do to do this
Starting point is 00:35:37 park but what But what is that there is that's over Diasmiron and I don't remember the
Starting point is 00:35:42 street that back there is over Dias Mirren and back back back back I'm sorry Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:50 no, of actually it's a good, it's a plus, you adderges because
Starting point is 00:35:54 yeah, yeah, it's, of actually, some of course, were removed supposedly but the reality
Starting point is 00:36:01 is that much is that much they're in the park so imagine to a park with tombas,
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think that is the lake that has to be some type of phenomenon. But as I said,
Starting point is 00:36:11 I want to tell you this anecdote that me sender, the which, the whole also me guarantee that this when occurs,
Starting point is 00:36:18 he causes a trauma very but also a day of he has to the day of he has. He said
Starting point is 00:36:25 he is the state of Chiapas, that his father had a years being pantonero,
Starting point is 00:36:30 but he said that his papa was a day, in the first turn, in the first
Starting point is 00:36:36 never And he said that, I was a day I was very tranquil, that not is like other times that
Starting point is 00:36:42 that's that he's that he's and he's he said, he was with his papa to the
Starting point is 00:36:49 job, he was also he was his papa there was a part of the pantheon
Starting point is 00:36:53 where he had a apartment where he was where he was a part of the time
Starting point is 00:36:57 sometimes to see to get to some sometimes and he he said
Starting point is 00:37:01 he was they were going to go to the time. He was was
Starting point is 00:37:04 also was also a of light, not kind of of the night and the
Starting point is 00:37:09 father says he's, before I'm before we're to get us I'm going to some questions here and say
Starting point is 00:37:15 for a car back at here, I'm to say something and for favor portate well. If someone
Starting point is 00:37:21 you say you don't you want you don't you know you guys if someone come
Starting point is 00:37:26 for you not you don't those words of his father. He said well well
Starting point is 00:37:31 my papa my papa never to be to there was nobody in the pantheon
Starting point is 00:37:35 his papa and then he's going to start the noise of the noise of the kids he's going
Starting point is 00:37:42 he's a soma by the door and he did a count that he was more of
Starting point is 00:37:48 a little more more grand that they had a pelota and they were they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:37:52 and he's paco I'm I'm so I'm so we're just we're
Starting point is 00:37:58 so we're so most we're so they're they're they're looking and me started
Starting point is 00:38:03 to say Ben, we're going, and me have been the polo and then we don't know
Starting point is 00:38:09 no, so they're like my father, no, no, no, not going to
Starting point is 00:38:12 happen. The pantheon is a car and nobody can enter, but for no reason
Starting point is 00:38:16 he, he thought, or, we said, or, we're he crossed for the
Starting point is 00:38:20 people, but they're not he saw, in form demoniac or like a phantasm,
Starting point is 00:38:27 simply view people, he said, no, well, well, they're, oh,
Starting point is 00:38:30 well, he was, he was to to play with them the and it's
Starting point is 00:38:34 a point that he put in the put in the he says he's he's he's
Starting point is 00:38:38 he's right of the just where was a a fos that were they were that they
Starting point is 00:38:45 had been for a person that was a old and they're and they they're saying
Starting point is 00:38:52 then you back you back you because you you know you
Starting point is 00:38:54 you don't he took to back to you he said that he said that he was he said no it
Starting point is 00:39:01 that I can't. My papa me will re-gawner but I'm but I can back and the three children
Starting point is 00:39:07 took a my seguer of the armro and they're unfortunately he said he said that
Starting point is 00:39:14 not that not a profound but but that he's he's the day of today of
Starting point is 00:39:19 the day of there's there moments or temporas where the to dole where the topio
Starting point is 00:39:26 he has taken treatment but it's a we've done a paediciment that
Starting point is 00:39:30 he's generated at a part of this and he he'd call the oyo and he he'd be
Starting point is 00:39:35 that the people were being they're doing, they were doing to him and he he had
Starting point is 00:39:41 to get to his papah papah there's a point where he'll listen the voice of
Starting point is 00:39:46 his father abre the eyes and he's not see the his his father he's
Starting point is 00:39:51 he said he he's he's worried first you know he'd know he'd be
Starting point is 00:39:56 he'd be he just then he I said that if I said, if somebody, he said, I said, I'm, is that they're children, they're, they're kids, they're, they're
Starting point is 00:40:07 those, no, I'm, he said, those, no, my papa, me I grew, because he also he had those and he said that not
Starting point is 00:40:15 good. Really, not provenian like a tomb specific, but they were entities, that were
Starting point is 00:40:21 malignas, that they liked to molest to the person, and that also, he had said,
Starting point is 00:40:26 his companion that baled for the nights and he he said to the day of today
Starting point is 00:40:30 that that's this experience I caused a trauma terrible in all my
Starting point is 00:40:34 nine my adolescence today and I'm I'm to live to live
Starting point is 00:40:38 with even even the I make that I have many years
Starting point is 00:40:44 what you're that that I'm so that tremendous and
Starting point is 00:40:48 is that so so as you like like you just a
Starting point is 00:40:51 last the the people don't have mentioned in
Starting point is 00:40:56 many many all they're not but the, the, the
Starting point is 00:41:01 what the thing is that they're very extreme. Or is that's a spirit very well
Starting point is 00:41:05 or is a spirit very malo and it's a point of there. And here
Starting point is 00:41:09 three and those are you're talking of, that's for an event
Starting point is 00:41:14 that's a sumam traumatic. Exactly. No, I'd would like to find
Starting point is 00:41:19 in a situation so definitely number one and number two no no two,
Starting point is 00:41:28 To hear these Histories Hey, Ais, of the really, me trajeroen me tragheron people.
Starting point is 00:41:38 People of extraanormal me queho abertamently of Paco Arias me is my security No, no,
Starting point is 00:41:48 yeah, out of but if Spritus or Chanekes To what they're to tell
Starting point is 00:41:54 you, you're saying Ais? Look, I'm I'm going to say, Kiki, that the angle of my camera not upuntas to you, and I've seen two things that pass
Starting point is 00:42:04 detrace-to-de-the-person that's there sat-sentada. So, is that, I don't know if are the spirits or chankees, but I want to passes a little belada. And that you have sweeties. Yeah, yeah, for ya,
Starting point is 00:42:21 we. I said, are the Meme, yeah, we. Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, well. Yeah, I've got to I'm pretty with the followers of Instagram of Paco when we're doing
Starting point is 00:42:29 those myracles. No, that they're souros when we're in the extra normal mobile.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's the bato set up in the car and I'm saying, oh yeah he's like what are what are you
Starting point is 00:42:41 to bring to live, tell you to tell you to tell you. Alah. Hey, at what
Starting point is 00:42:46 you're going to go to get to a doha to get a dog that's a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:51 the ass of the there. There's there of cementaries that I mean me told
Starting point is 00:42:56 that time me impacted and it's more than what you're not so if I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 00:43:00 let's see let's this also this too a little in a little bit in a
Starting point is 00:43:07 little bit of New York was in a part of Mexico I don't remember where
Starting point is 00:43:10 and I and me the the woman she me the she, me it
Starting point is 00:43:17 well in this time the new the person that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:43:24 like, I had a a pair in a time, I don't remember that decade
Starting point is 00:43:28 but that has been a lot in the he said the loco because you said it
Starting point is 00:43:34 was very chistos or they were we were in pure tarugas and
Starting point is 00:43:40 in the city in the we've been in the town in the we've said
Starting point is 00:43:45 all all and it about around the seven of the
Starting point is 00:43:48 seven and and it was a city and it's a loco my
Starting point is 00:43:53 nobio of that time, he had a carrito. So, although really not so he was really not a time,
Starting point is 00:44:01 there was a first in that there practically all those of the people and we going to
Starting point is 00:44:07 be the celebration of one of the families of the little. He said then the
Starting point is 00:44:14 loco pass for me even it was necessary, we we're going to
Starting point is 00:44:18 just standing there in the fiesta ohie we copas, we chasemes, and when we came regressant, the, yeah, it was a little bit, yeah, the houses were
Starting point is 00:44:32 apagas, we were the last few times, we were of that fiesta, and then, it's detainee in the cemetery, and as it was a bit loco, so he occurred retar me, and if I was well, Marie, to be, Marie, to you know, to tryves, you have put, you have put $10
Starting point is 00:44:53 to get you to get you because as a little little bit too no way to say she could open the door
Starting point is 00:45:01 you get to the pantheon to open the door you go to you're going to and grittas big forth
Starting point is 00:45:08 mom good nights you're yeah yeah he said but what I say that
Starting point is 00:45:12 I'm for five pesos you're you're you're coyona you're
Starting point is 00:45:18 a guyina you're you're going to So, it's, as I piqued the Orgoy, I'm going to be, but me you're going to pay, loco. Me you're going to pay.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, see, here I bring money. I'm going to pay. Well, says she's she back, with much a pain of that no,
Starting point is 00:45:31 a person no, he's got a door, he starts to bring to a rechinid impressionate, and it's he's fission
Starting point is 00:45:41 the lights of any other house, none, and he makes, he, does some passos to the
Starting point is 00:45:45 and when he, This nobio, the loco, he's been the eyes very aberts and like is, like, kind of a bit impacted.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And she said, ah, I, I'm going to tryver. So, then he's, he's got to get.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And he'll be a gritty. He said, for that he did a loco that is he and he'll get a more
Starting point is 00:46:10 goodnuches, yeah, yeah, I'm, and he's he got, he got, he's got,
Starting point is 00:46:14 and he He said The door of the Pantion. He says that when he gets
Starting point is 00:46:18 to go to roll out the car and the door, the loco he's and he's
Starting point is 00:46:22 the back and the eyes and the front of the car and she
Starting point is 00:46:28 to be to see and she and she he said loco let me go,
Starting point is 00:46:33 we're going to get very very so I'm don't you do you let me
Starting point is 00:46:37 give me my money yeah and he said he said he said he said
Starting point is 00:46:41 he says the chawo and tremorosa and he to make to make to the vehicle to the cylinder and the cylinder
Starting point is 00:46:50 and the end up the key, and then she he says, loco, what you pass? And it's he put the
Starting point is 00:46:56 the key. And she gets a turn to do you and he says, oh, go-le, loco, go-nos.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And then he's like to babboose and being to the front and of and then he's
Starting point is 00:47:06 he's going. So, before that he gets to the house of she, he's staccion in a
Starting point is 00:47:12 in a square, five houses and with with much fear, he says
Starting point is 00:47:18 this chabwe, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, he's, Marie, no,
Starting point is 00:47:22 you know, not he was about, and the person? Which, she's, the
Starting point is 00:47:28 she's, the lady, you, when you got to, you know, what's, what's,
Starting point is 00:47:32 like, said, when you metista, the one of the one of the person,
Starting point is 00:47:36 a lady, a a girl, a blacked, and parados. He said,
Starting point is 00:47:42 for that I kept up being, like no you're doing, and where you went to, you're
Starting point is 00:47:47 you're left to the front? Passed to the side of her. And he's, and here, when you
Starting point is 00:47:52 metiste to the car, she came to you came in front of the car for that I did you
Starting point is 00:47:57 no, I said, and if the lady, she was me, and, and,
Starting point is 00:48:03 and, so, just, he was where went to the car and we went to
Starting point is 00:48:06 and we said, in Mary, that's the story, he said, you never
Starting point is 00:48:11 never was the same person. And then then we're after we're after we're
Starting point is 00:48:15 a person because yeah, he was a day all the day like asimimimed
Starting point is 00:48:18 like, I've in his thoughts because he said there was a man
Starting point is 00:48:23 that's me pego there in the cemetery and it is that there's that some
Starting point is 00:48:30 that some that are like some they're like they they're like they they're
Starting point is 00:48:35 not they have seen so they're so yeah yeah of Oh, Paco, there are
Starting point is 00:48:41 places that not are a cemetery that we have decided that is a cemetery, but for the circumstances they're transformed in one. There are the persons
Starting point is 00:48:53 that practice the alpinism, the senderism, and to be able to mountaine, well, they're mountains dangerous, there are mountains
Starting point is 00:49:02 for Matheus, but there are mountains that really are in risk your life at a part of a certain
Starting point is 00:49:07 point. In Mexico, there's a I don't I don't record but it has a part that has a and in that mountain has been
Starting point is 00:49:18 many people because there's some cause of radios, some because have caught at the moment of irapeleando
Starting point is 00:49:25 no see in the instructory and it's et cetera there have been muchissimos still being a place
Starting point is 00:49:31 that are much people escalar but has a much people. There are the types
Starting point is 00:49:38 that are guides there have a temple very different to what any person in the
Starting point is 00:49:43 city can be being used are very very curtied so, meanwhile someone who has
Starting point is 00:49:48 been a mountain and he back a one way and they do they do they do they
Starting point is 00:49:52 do it and they they're not a seven, ten different. You're saying
Starting point is 00:50:00 a lot of a condition physical to make that is tremendous. They're they're not. They're
Starting point is 00:50:08 You see very serious, very enfocados. No, they end up with romas. They're not, but no, but not they're doing the seridid
Starting point is 00:50:14 to the issue. What is rarest that you notice in them is fear. Mied normally not they're they're in
Starting point is 00:50:22 that aspect. And a friend me said that in an occasion he asked, to the guy,
Starting point is 00:50:28 that I'm I know I was a so I'm a reason of the podcast I'm, I don't
Starting point is 00:50:33 have you don't have a story of the story of and the other the only
Starting point is 00:50:36 time that's the mountain. Let's let me what happened. And this is
Starting point is 00:50:41 what has what has been to do with the cemetery that's put in a lot. He said
Starting point is 00:50:45 one he was he was a kid he was a much money and that the
Starting point is 00:50:50 child and he had decided that he was he was he was
Starting point is 00:50:54 he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was
Starting point is 00:51:00 he was the child to get to the same but just
Starting point is 00:51:05 in the part of the glacier Notan The guide Not that this chabot
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah, now try with They are They're very good These guys Yeah, the person
Starting point is 00:51:16 says Star Kemada but not the Or if says Is it's normal
Starting point is 00:51:20 But yeah Tron And he said I When I He said He said
Starting point is 00:51:24 He had Gotated I goted I goted All If I I'm I'm in
Starting point is 00:51:29 Riesgo Because no there's There No no more If it's
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's Hashtimated So, I said, I said, I'm sorry, I'm going to say to this, but here's
Starting point is 00:51:42 your recorried. And the quater says, he's put so very insistent. No, no, it's been in
Starting point is 00:51:47 much time for this. Here's here's a time. He says, no, no,
Starting point is 00:51:51 we're not to give to more, I'm going to say to it, but is that you know, and what
Starting point is 00:51:56 is the more more dangerous. No, so your life not you're doing the risk, you're going,
Starting point is 00:52:00 you're saying, so, no, no, no, there's pass us from here.
Starting point is 00:52:05 So the type was very very and he says, well, minimum,
Starting point is 00:52:09 for favor, this, we'll we're even to be 10 meters more
Starting point is 00:52:15 because it's a little, and see, take me a photo. It's
Starting point is 00:52:19 to make the mountain, and he said, ah, sure that's,
Starting point is 00:52:23 and he's that in those 10 meters, as he was a speed in pinadit,
Starting point is 00:52:29 and the those who have subed mountain know that even that they're three meters, there are certain inclinations
Starting point is 00:52:34 that every pass it's a start rarventing the it's an effort impressive. And he's not that this chico, of a repent,
Starting point is 00:52:41 to start, well, oh, so, not so, not bad. Oh, yeah, every pass, he gets
Starting point is 00:52:47 to be too a muchado for the man, and those 10, 15 metritutes to those that had
Starting point is 00:52:52 to get to be that the quater is very strange because it's a chorova, soelt
Starting point is 00:52:58 the mochilla that's Cargando and he says, I don't put. He says, no, I don't let me cargare.
Starting point is 00:53:03 It's a very bad. He's he's almost going and he's he's made rare. I think I
Starting point is 00:53:10 thought that's I've been infartar. Because never me had passed that. So,
Starting point is 00:53:14 of a time, in two, three passos, you know, I don't, you know, you're not
Starting point is 00:53:21 you're going to make a other condition that you're so here we're going to talk
Starting point is 00:53:24 the photo. It's does the the chau he he's he's front of
Starting point is 00:53:28 the mountain he he he took the photograph and
Starting point is 00:53:32 where he the photograph he see as as kind of a
Starting point is 00:53:37 person mounted in the arms of this chow
Starting point is 00:53:39 so he was he was he cargand a
Starting point is 00:53:46 so so for so was the he he
Starting point is 00:53:51 he said I think some one of those people have
Starting point is 00:53:53 had been have much muchismas at the long of the decades
Starting point is 00:53:57 I was trying to that his spirit was out of the world and he was he
Starting point is 00:54:01 he was he he did he I'm remember of those images that they
Starting point is 00:54:06 go to these crepipas where is a type and has seen
Starting point is 00:54:14 you know you don't see you totally totally to that that
Starting point is 00:54:16 that's to me to me too to all to yeah
Starting point is 00:54:19 yeah to keep yeah to to keep to
Starting point is 00:54:24 No, Were, not you You've molestated Amid Thank you Thank you
Starting point is 00:54:29 I'm Hey, I'm trying I'm trying here the person So, and look
Starting point is 00:54:36 That's No, no, no No, no, no, no, but we're about
Starting point is 00:54:46 experiences totally to other world, no manches, I think I'm sure I'm not I'm a
Starting point is 00:54:51 question to you really I think, I think of some of you I think I the notion
Starting point is 00:54:56 but, let, let's be first for you know, you do you do you
Starting point is 00:55:01 do you do you I think you I think yeah yeah for the anecdote
Starting point is 00:55:08 Vennga that's all of a man yeah yeah yeah I'm
Starting point is 00:55:13 getting valor you you you you mentaliz you
Starting point is 00:55:17 you I think can you can can say okay And you, this, Hayes?
Starting point is 00:55:24 Fidate that, my response would be a no, but not for MEDO, there's, here in Monterey, there have been
Starting point is 00:55:33 many bad experiences of people who have done with so, so, they're not to be those, that are in
Starting point is 00:55:40 bad those and they're there, and they're there's always and has been at a point to not
Starting point is 00:55:46 to tell them. So, in that experience, because this is my locality, I'd say, no, because if the Panteon
Starting point is 00:55:55 no, it doesn't know, no, has been a little movement, they'll have been. Okay, okay. Very good response. I mean, I, I, I said that's, I'm thinking in that it's,
Starting point is 00:56:06 not we're going to runpire, that's, that's, that's a thing of a permit, of tal, security,
Starting point is 00:56:12 or so, but, so, so, so, so, so, like, for anyone, I would hear.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah. If, it's, out of the situation of security physical I'm a cat I'm here
Starting point is 00:56:22 I'm I'm in the I'm in let's have your response I go in some time because no
Starting point is 00:56:30 if it's done the opportunity that we're that we're we're to get a a Monterrey
Starting point is 00:56:35 and is you know yeah like you know you know you're you know we're just
Starting point is 00:56:42 we're going to explore here we're not no no no no
Starting point is 00:56:46 he passed the gato there for the feet here yeah no no no manch
Starting point is 00:56:51 To be If you let's a photo At a rata So, to be in what I'm like I'm
Starting point is 00:56:56 on my side of my side right, or I don't know how I'm going to get the video.
Starting point is 00:57:01 But there like a media so it's so I'm more I'm more I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 00:57:06 change the channel of not you know I don't see we I don't see All right
Starting point is 00:57:15 all of this moment with the hashtag Aguant Kike Aguant Kee Comenta comment
Starting point is 00:57:19 comment All all with your Commentar Kiki Hashtag Aguant Akike Venga I want to say
Starting point is 00:57:26 a question I don't know if you've heard about the tomb of Nachito is in Mexico that me
Starting point is 00:57:31 that's me really the No I don't No for no No Well this
Starting point is 00:57:35 is a legend that starts in the year in the year 1882 so me makes very curious
Starting point is 00:57:40 the because the reason this phenomenon this pass in Guadalajal Halisco this
Starting point is 00:57:47 took a little with a a little that when, let us when, we'd
Starting point is 00:57:52 he was, he was the name of Ignacio Torres Altamirano. This man had
Starting point is 00:57:57 a phobia tremendous in the obscurity. Tremendisim the name of the phobia
Starting point is 00:58:03 as a man, ah, is nictophobia, that is the fear of the night or to the
Starting point is 00:58:09 dark, but it's a fear, a a favor tremendous. So, so that
Starting point is 00:58:12 not, we don't, we don't tell you you can even to get to
Starting point is 00:58:17 to die if you're much time there. And that's what was the past. This little was the
Starting point is 00:58:22 custom of that his parents in their recamara they put belas. So the little
Starting point is 00:58:27 only so could be to be a night of a torment very very really,
Starting point is 00:58:33 the parents not heard the son of the son of the son of the
Starting point is 00:58:39 because because the ventarrones to the wind they can't the
Starting point is 00:58:42 and until the day of his child, they'd know that the
Starting point is 00:58:49 little he had had been a better to be a better this because the
Starting point is 00:58:55 people said that it was to be a a level of stress very
Starting point is 00:58:58 a which he provoked some a carriac or a
Starting point is 00:59:02 far fulminant and what is what is what is the so
Starting point is 00:59:07 when they they're when they're the little and
Starting point is 00:59:11 they get the the person the panthe panioner
Starting point is 00:59:15 all days, we'd know that the tomb, let's the caja of the
Starting point is 00:59:23 was out of the tomb. It was out of the ojo, and obviously the car had the
Starting point is 00:59:30 car had the body of the little. So this no passed no one
Starting point is 00:59:34 or two or three times. This was a time so it was in
Starting point is 00:59:40 10 days a year. The family came to the conclusion
Starting point is 00:59:43 of that this phobia passed the barrier of the life,
Starting point is 00:59:47 to the murder, and now so he was provoking like that that
Starting point is 00:59:53 that's the time that they're in the little. And what they were to make
Starting point is 00:59:57 to make a a tomb of concrete, the which they puti some adaptations
Starting point is 01:00:04 to get a light of the light, the light of day, and at
Starting point is 01:00:09 the same time had a space for veal this for that the
Starting point is 01:00:13 little was in illumination. and that was like the remedy for that Nachito could be to this legend
Starting point is 01:00:22 they can't be like the like the legend of Nachito if me is a Mexican and the and the curious
Starting point is 01:00:27 is that many people know this this legend the local they're there they're there to have
Starting point is 01:00:33 offrendas but something call my attention and this is what I would like
Starting point is 01:00:40 to share to give us the people let's let's a Natchito
Starting point is 01:00:43 but the jugets have been robos for the kids that are
Starting point is 01:00:50 to the panteron with his papas and they they're and they do you
Starting point is 01:00:53 go. The kids they have said the his mom that Nachito gets
Starting point is 01:00:59 to get to his court to ask to get to that
Starting point is 01:01:04 he's then. So it's a legend local very
Starting point is 01:01:08 interesting because more than a person has said
Starting point is 01:01:11 that the the spirit of that this new reclama his
Starting point is 01:01:16 things when are robbed so that's that I'm remember much the fact that you never
Starting point is 01:01:20 don't know that's you and that's a morp those profanators to tumas
Starting point is 01:01:25 exactly what you do you do you oh yeah is that I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:01:30 look look I'm I'm I'm a problem so like
Starting point is 01:01:32 a kind of I'm I'm I'm I think I think firmly
Starting point is 01:01:38 in the existence of a life of a conscience that permanence
Starting point is 01:01:42 after the life and in many cases it's this is this but the fact that
Starting point is 01:01:49 permanence that's a ferre objects, that see a person that give an experience
Starting point is 01:01:54 that is traumatic I mean it generates a certain a certain conflict
Starting point is 01:01:59 but we're going to let me a legend and a legend that
Starting point is 01:02:04 never would be really that is very good
Starting point is 01:02:07 the story and you what what you I still
Starting point is 01:02:12 I think contrary to to what says Aiske there can be a special
Starting point is 01:02:19 of a nostalgia no see this this this time of the of the
Starting point is 01:02:27 people I justific the fact that not all all are things
Starting point is 01:02:33 malignous no or some or a presence oscura that
Starting point is 01:02:39 want to take to you center, of your path, no
Starting point is 01:02:42 this theme of the almas of the purgatorio in a way, that is a part,
Starting point is 01:02:50 that's a part, that's it's, it's a point to that there's
Starting point is 01:02:55 a group of almas that are there there's there's a kind of a
Starting point is 01:03:01 kind of purification so. Ah, so, and they are, and they're
Starting point is 01:03:06 like, and they're I, I, the other day a Archardote Catholic, where
Starting point is 01:03:12 he said, well, there's a person that no, that no, and those are the things that
Starting point is 01:03:18 they're always they need to an oration, need to be a bellator, need something to calm their peace,
Starting point is 01:03:26 and for other side, I think there can be almas that you know, and even you know, if you're
Starting point is 01:03:33 you're doing, if you're ten vellators to the time, well, simply, no,
Starting point is 01:03:38 not they're not, Like, Algo, something there's a know, I'm sure
Starting point is 01:03:44 that after the life I'm not a spirit like much chocarrero to me a bit more and I'm really a
Starting point is 01:03:51 mind going to starting people. No, is that it's a phenomenon and it's for so that
Starting point is 01:03:55 many people say that those entities that we're in fantasas that are like the
Starting point is 01:04:02 spirit of the person that the spirit is the spirit is the demonio that's the natural
Starting point is 01:04:09 Demonios or how they They're like that energy Negative To create, well, Or simply molestartre No, You what do you think is
Starting point is 01:04:19 Amigo Eyes? Fickate that is that I think there are Different types of entities And they're To be much With certain feelings That they're
Starting point is 01:04:28 There are many There's many Stories of People who have Contacted With phantasmas Of someone That's
Starting point is 01:04:36 Someone who Falleceo of the Family And there something that in the grand majority permanence
Starting point is 01:04:41 they're an a sensation of fear because you're you're not
Starting point is 01:04:46 not a actual and in what you have quite aty but
Starting point is 01:04:52 but after the interaction they they're they're with
Starting point is 01:04:56 so so a me me me he makes much
Starting point is 01:04:59 like this type of this type of effect
Starting point is 01:05:04 final for me is very significant because there are
Starting point is 01:05:11 some that, a despite that the encounter with certain
Starting point is 01:05:15 entities it's it's aterrador, and it's a that's very
Starting point is 01:05:21 that's very because the we let, we think
Starting point is 01:05:24 they have an effect on this part spiritual slash emotional
Starting point is 01:05:30 slash our part mental and it's not more
Starting point is 01:05:35 what is but what they're doing? So I think in some cases, it's going to
Starting point is 01:05:41 the person that's the person who live the effect, but many times it's for the
Starting point is 01:05:44 entity myself. So I think they are, some data like to analyze,
Starting point is 01:05:49 but no, I'm not I'm not I think many cases
Starting point is 01:05:53 are so I, I, I think some other is a entity of
Starting point is 01:05:57 those, I'm people, what is that I think when they're
Starting point is 01:06:02 people especially they're special care. Awas. Or, you know, Aguas, not
Starting point is 01:06:07 It's a word, Uh, no, Aguas is, is that you can't be a or another
Starting point is 01:06:13 extreme. So, you can be something a good or something so it's a world
Starting point is 01:06:17 so much a good, take care precaution. A characteristic of the
Starting point is 01:06:21 children, no, the the fall of control over the emotions. No,
Starting point is 01:06:26 then I suppose that in some way these spirits desbordan all
Starting point is 01:06:30 like that any that any in life, no, no there
Starting point is 01:06:34 a kind of control. Could be. Yeah we're entering in the world of
Starting point is 01:06:38 the suppositions but... No, it's that it's a lot of it. That's a good support.
Starting point is 01:06:44 The kind of, the kind of that's kind of the characteristics that they
Starting point is 01:06:48 define. And I agree with a tonteria but like the amtes of the anime
Starting point is 01:06:53 like when he gets Mahimbu but they're in their part final to the
Starting point is 01:06:57 final or the original that is a little no bronca promangos boy
Starting point is 01:07:02 is the most the most most the most powerful, and in its majority, as the, as the, like, you know, that's the, like, that's a, that's, like, that's,
Starting point is 01:07:08 that's, he's, he doesn't control, no? But, yeah, I mean, a reference a very tont, but, well. No, no, no, valid, valid. Very good. Who, of us, no, I'm enorghuisher,
Starting point is 01:07:22 to have been educated by Goku. Exactly. Oh, Koku. It's more, is more, narrator, we're going to get our hands and
Starting point is 01:07:31 we're going to do that hands of Arrida, although not me be able to me be able to my friend,
Starting point is 01:07:40 I'm going to say, the net abertamente this cabron is another because
Starting point is 01:07:45 it's a little malito of the good, but you can't your man but here but here
Starting point is 01:07:51 but here we're doing a battle that's demonstrating that's for that hashtag
Starting point is 01:07:56 how was hashtag hang hanged quack okay so okay
Starting point is 01:08:00 thank you thank you thank thank thank This, another onda, way. Well, there's the compromise. Well, well, yeah that he said, Paco,
Starting point is 01:08:09 I mean, thanks a God, we're doing a problemita of health, my dearer. There's a little, well, in the morning. Yeah, one is a chomaco. Yeah, they've got to care, right? This, it's a little bit of the pressure.
Starting point is 01:08:22 A small arrhythmia, tachycardia. Unfortunately, I've been a great team of my people, no, and one of them medical, me chose the man for there, but here we're batallowing
Starting point is 01:08:34 and also also one with much good for the family nocturna for the family extra normal and then
Starting point is 01:08:42 also for the people of my house, that is the of you know we're right we're we're going
Starting point is 01:08:49 and now if yeah that we get to the moment of the night I'm the really that
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm very content to to be with you I've said I've said abirtam
Starting point is 01:08:57 in various occasions for me both both narrator as Paco represent
Starting point is 01:09:01 a figure to a figure to a, a, a, a way that has marked that is
Starting point is 01:09:10 the way correct in this, not? Also, a pair of tipos that me have tended
Starting point is 01:09:15 the man, this, and, and, and, and, he said
Starting point is 01:09:20 a, a, in, I don't remember in what of the three
Starting point is 01:09:25 canals, canals was, but they're, it, is the trinidad
Starting point is 01:09:30 paranormal, no? And the net, it's a chido. I'm justo of that name. It's a genial, it's a genial. How are you going to go out for anonombe for anonombe for a trinidad Paranormal and Pacu, Kiki, is a super gusto to be here with you guys.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Gwen Kiki, me came to do darrens from the first time that we chameau's platicada. And well, Panko, well, what's? Well, we've done doing lasso since we've initiated with this and what chingon to be here. Yeah, we're for the year. Well, caballeros,
Starting point is 01:09:57 muchs thanks to those two for give the time to be in this moment
Starting point is 01:10:02 collaborating the three together. The real those those two because to us
Starting point is 01:10:07 I've shared with you know with you many things and I thank you know all the
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Starting point is 01:10:18 and I's like Kike is in the description today I'm my friend Kike Wurta
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Starting point is 01:10:41 you want you can find us then you so much thanks for all the time
Starting point is 01:10:47 it's too very good in the question I think the people the time you like
Starting point is 01:10:52 in some moment you would like you would be let me let me
Starting point is 01:10:54 know to and we're we're seeing you and we're in a new chapter. Passenla
Starting point is 01:11:01 Bonito. Until the next to the next. Bye. Bye, bye,

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