EXTRA ANORMAL - 106 | Los CHANEQUES de la sierra de OAXACA FT: @nomiresporlaventana

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Hello, how are people, being welcome to a chapter more of podcast extra anormal. My name is Pacuaries and I'm very happy
Starting point is 00:00:25 to be here with all of you. So today I'm very content because I have a big friend that's a real friend that's one of the favorite here of the family extra normal
Starting point is 00:00:35 today is with me Kike Wurta How is your much better Paco you thank you another an invitation
Starting point is 00:00:42 more to this grand family of extra normal podcast and then then I'm like in the house
Starting point is 00:00:49 as a custom a very yeah an abraus for all a chance I'd like
Starting point is 00:00:54 give me chance I'd thank you all the carino his messages hashtag Aguant, Kike.
Starting point is 00:00:59 In fact, no know what I've made to make make sure. And then we've got to get back.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah, recovered. All right. Thanks, a deal. A bit of a little badon,
Starting point is 00:01:07 but... Nothing, that the repos and the rest can't do you and the
Starting point is 00:01:13 family. Yeah, you're just to get to get to the regress. Family, abrochins
Starting point is 00:01:18 the cinturon because as you've been in the title of the video, this is the second
Starting point is 00:01:24 part of a thing that I I see that you like the theme
Starting point is 00:01:29 of the duendes Chankees Alushes trolls as you like you like you because you
Starting point is 00:01:36 think that this thing a lot of I think it's a thing very interesting
Starting point is 00:01:41 to say to say to say we're we're saying we're a little a legend
Starting point is 00:01:47 no with a a story of our oldos no you know you
Starting point is 00:01:51 know the classic of the abel the devil there in the
Starting point is 00:01:54 mountain there Yeah, so machete-as-as-a-machet-as with the diablo, yeah. Or, for example, no, because I was that I was when I was chankees, me, I wasusts, depending on the place where you're living, because they're,
Starting point is 00:02:08 they're names different, no? Exactly. And, also, there's a theme cultural where in different countries and not necessarily, Latin America, Europe, Asia, because, making my investigation of camp, as much me fascina
Starting point is 00:02:22 to do it, to document it all. We've We've got stories even of the Lehano orient, of Japan.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I think this this time you you're going to start. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:02:34 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's a family,
Starting point is 00:02:38 before, before, that Kike, before the time, with the first with the first,
Starting point is 00:02:43 with the first time, for time, the fact, the fact, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:02:50 you know, that the platform, to that the algorithm of this be a bella platform that YouTube still recommending more
Starting point is 00:02:58 the content of people that still not us know us know. So, take these seconds this rattito to give like if not you're
Starting point is 00:03:05 subscribed, subscribe and now so you did you. Kike, Arrancate, Carran. You thank you, Paca.
Starting point is 00:03:12 The opportunity is an honor for me to be here with one of my great maestros. No,
Starting point is 00:03:17 the gust is my. Let me tell me to Paco that approximately for the
Starting point is 00:03:23 years 1,700 was founded in Colombia, in those
Starting point is 00:03:30 then, a place that started a little a little villa,
Starting point is 00:03:36 Caions Gordas is the name of this place in the province
Starting point is 00:03:40 of Antioquia there in Colombia. There is where we going
Starting point is 00:03:45 to develop this history and let me talk you
Starting point is 00:03:47 a little that Antioquia is a community a
Starting point is 00:03:52 that is a place in a zone, as well bendecided for
Starting point is 00:03:56 God, where there many many things of agriculture, mineryia, is a place
Starting point is 00:04:02 in resources naturales and as it's rich in resources naturales also in
Starting point is 00:04:08 things religious and and then things of legends. Okay. There
Starting point is 00:04:14 mysticism there. The fact that is like in many
Starting point is 00:04:18 places and that you talked about every community starts
Starting point is 00:04:23 to go to go this universe mystico and mysterious. And, of course,
Starting point is 00:04:30 Caeas not is the exception. This history I could hear to use
Starting point is 00:04:37 to some audios that me a subscriber of my channel, of not
Starting point is 00:04:43 you'll say, I'll say to be a podcast is transormal but it's
Starting point is 00:04:46 not the not me. And also we don't talk to what
Starting point is 00:04:49 no the I receive and me I gave the Tread of transcribire to transcrib some
Starting point is 00:04:54 I'm made very uh uh, uh, the repent honest this
Starting point is 00:05:00 story because just one of the things to make to talk to uh, Ricardo we're going
Starting point is 00:05:06 to call in this story is that he, is that always has considered a person a septica
Starting point is 00:05:13 of the things paranormals. Today, no me asked if I think in the paranormal because
Starting point is 00:05:18 I think that's yeah, of so you know yeah we know we know how
Starting point is 00:05:21 is the issue with you although maybe not you know you know but for whatever
Starting point is 00:05:25 something I'm sorry today I'm saying I'm saying to say to all the people
Starting point is 00:05:30 that's I'm going I'm I think I think I'm I'm and that
Starting point is 00:05:35 this is what that this grand family of the of the extra normal but
Starting point is 00:05:39 well Ricardo me platica Paco that he's he has nasido
Starting point is 00:05:43 he originally native of the canias Gordas in Antio in
Starting point is 00:05:48 Columbia and And as you have been a place I'm a lot of
Starting point is 00:05:52 it's a lot of history in histories and that they're going
Starting point is 00:05:58 getting the days of the people of the world and one of the
Starting point is 00:06:03 one of the different of this has to be with the
Starting point is 00:06:07 legend of a duende that always intrigue a Ricardo
Starting point is 00:06:12 although never I never that were more than a question
Starting point is 00:06:16 to all As we all We know Much Histories A sometimes
Starting point is 00:06:20 They have This This Well, how how how to say
Starting point is 00:06:26 this intention behind of the legend more to avoid
Starting point is 00:06:32 that the people go to or to get a
Starting point is 00:06:36 little or to maintain some some places where
Starting point is 00:06:39 there there there there there were and the
Starting point is 00:06:43 Bruch the Pirata of the spirit of the
Starting point is 00:06:46 pirata that I don't know, to prevent that the people extrayer because of some communities
Starting point is 00:06:52 in this case, well, Canyas Gordas not was that community. Although,
Starting point is 00:06:56 if I, I'll repit was it was a final of the day that was the attention of
Starting point is 00:07:00 all. So, then he said, he said, a time of his audios that in one of these
Starting point is 00:07:05 times, in this community of Canyas Gordas that's, that's, also in a species
Starting point is 00:07:10 of a serros, is a place they're they're to the maderas
Starting point is 00:07:15 to the They start in what we could we call it, a part of a selva, maybe, a busque, for some of the photographs that me compared you. So, they're in, in, in, in, in, in this bird, speso of, of, the, of, the, of, the, of the, of the, the, of the, the mountainitas that there, there, there, around, of, the canyas gourdas, well, they, they're, no, and, they're going to, no, and,
Starting point is 00:07:42 And of a kind of kind of a penumbra yeah this not has
Starting point is 00:07:46 not a day of me comment that he has over the 30 years this is
Starting point is 00:07:51 a story that's a approximately 12 years were his
Starting point is 00:07:56 his brother and him his his brother he was and he
Starting point is 00:08:01 and in this and in this and this walk that they're
Starting point is 00:08:04 they're kind of there there there a little
Starting point is 00:08:09 in what was practically the obscurity of this place. But it was
Starting point is 00:08:17 a little characteristic because he had a sombrero grand. We're the type that they use
Starting point is 00:08:23 to the people who do they're not the classic sombrero piccudo and no no no no
Starting point is 00:08:30 it's a sombrero great at final of the day. But what was doing
Starting point is 00:08:33 this this little was he was when they went and when
Starting point is 00:08:38 they were much the attention. he had perdied during the time, he had
Starting point is 00:08:44 been in the time around of the community and then he's not
Starting point is 00:08:48 he's he's a way to come but only attenable to say
Starting point is 00:08:52 this man to this man to his brother and he he's
Starting point is 00:08:59 noticed in the little a figure fragile even with the pomululos
Starting point is 00:09:03 undid his mehias undied the arm of the eyes to
Starting point is 00:09:07 a certain kind as a disnutrited okay So then the Mirate
Starting point is 00:09:13 Fargile of the Yantto makes that they're they're in and they're well,
Starting point is 00:09:17 because maybe the more is of a community certain and came to get him to get him
Starting point is 00:09:23 the night is going to that's that's that they they're going to talk to her mom
Starting point is 00:09:28 oh well we don't know we need to we're we're and at final
Starting point is 00:09:32 well well then we we're we're we're we but well
Starting point is 00:09:36 they they're they're to start to of this zone
Starting point is 00:09:41 Boscosa They're They're They're They're They're They're To get to
Starting point is 00:09:45 And something And something It's They're To get to come in even
Starting point is 00:09:49 They're to the community When they're They said He said He said
Starting point is 00:09:53 He said He said to have a change in his physical The
Starting point is 00:10:01 The He was coming ahead of them But they They're
Starting point is 00:10:04 to know Like if the boy started to
Starting point is 00:10:09 Styrarse a Like to Creser His Brassos His PIRNas He turned
Starting point is 00:10:15 more Delgated And Alargated Okay First Richard He's the
Starting point is 00:10:21 He's He said He thinks He's Product of His imagination And
Starting point is 00:10:26 Cansance of A Tard of Sparcimient Of Right
Starting point is 00:10:30 No To go To be C Cere near the
Starting point is 00:10:33 place But He Instead he He of scalofrios and Ricardo he said to his
Starting point is 00:10:41 brother, oh, is my imagination? You know, you know, what's what's going? So,
Starting point is 00:10:48 his brother he says that I mean I did but I thought that I was imagining. This in
Starting point is 00:10:55 a determined moment, those start to inquietar and more ahead, subitament
Starting point is 00:11:02 this little little little that year he had had grown to what he he said
Starting point is 00:11:08 about 15 centimeters Oh la, so if it was a good It was a situation that was like It was like very clear And as
Starting point is 00:11:17 And as I Like the I'm going to But of But of But of Subitantly What he
Starting point is 00:11:22 This is That's That's He's He's With the Man to the Outtura
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah Tapandos A little And he He's He's He's He says
Starting point is 00:11:34 To get I I'm I'm Dientes when the little the man
Starting point is 00:11:39 of his book and he gets to be able to the ala of the sombrero that he
Starting point is 00:11:45 had some two don't inventes those those those hands
Starting point is 00:11:50 he said he said he was approximately at three meters of distance
Starting point is 00:11:54 the the man he was he was even however in
Starting point is 00:11:58 this moment they they sobers they okay and
Starting point is 00:12:01 they they can kind like Ricardo in these
Starting point is 00:12:05 audios. This little innocent that they had encountered in the
Starting point is 00:12:12 reality of the legend, the duend of cajas gaudas. They say that
Starting point is 00:12:20 in never in the life they had imagined that they were to
Starting point is 00:12:24 live one of the worst pesad wow this pair of this pair of
Starting point is 00:12:28 not know how reaction he says my brother and I
Starting point is 00:12:32 know we if that's maligno serguia in front of this this
Starting point is 00:12:40 little he's a little more more and then the dweend is going in the
Starting point is 00:12:47 buske and the buske and it is a much mass a
Starting point is 00:12:51 light a dark and it's he's they're so
Starting point is 00:12:56 they're paralyzed rickardo he says that be his brother that
Starting point is 00:13:00 he's he's he he not he's he that even
Starting point is 00:13:05 the day of today they're and they're they're and they
Starting point is 00:13:08 don't say the he's not the reason why he he's he's he's
Starting point is 00:13:12 running after the duend but only see they're going
Starting point is 00:13:16 in the black in the night he said they're to get to
Starting point is 00:13:21 they're not they're and the air was to say to say
Starting point is 00:13:25 to say to say to say the fear he they're
Starting point is 00:13:29 to start the lot of the heart with a
Starting point is 00:13:33 a thing very, very pesado in this little to they're a little to
Starting point is 00:13:37 come to get to the world of the dark, and more and more and they're
Starting point is 00:13:43 going to see Ricardo that night his perspective about these legends
Starting point is 00:13:49 changed for complete the duend of caens Gordas that that he
Starting point is 00:13:55 was a creature that he was a creature that for that for him and
Starting point is 00:13:59 his brother was real they're they're they're transformation and this
Starting point is 00:14:06 experience says that some years he was he was he was pursuing in his
Starting point is 00:14:11 pesidias they're constantly they were in the night over-salted for
Starting point is 00:14:17 that the figure large that was a big a young
Starting point is 00:14:23 with a hand and yeah then then they they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:14:28 they're they're they're you know the duend the duend they ensigno
Starting point is 00:14:33 that much these legends unimaginable are certain at times in the most profound
Starting point is 00:14:39 of the bosque Ceres sinister are being so that's
Starting point is 00:14:43 tremendous Kike How Vespa a thank for all the
Starting point is 00:14:48 people in Canyas Gordas Antioquia A Abraza a
Starting point is 00:14:51 lot of the family of there Fifate Kike that the time
Starting point is 00:14:57 the thing of the Chene well of the duend I'm to
Starting point is 00:15:00 call them as those know us or as know we know we know
Starting point is 00:15:02 we know we know we in Mexico, the people have context, Kike, something that me
Starting point is 00:15:33 really a attention, after to learn many of many of this phenomenon is that many
Starting point is 00:15:41 people are that these can move to make of the dimensions. I don't know. No, no,
Starting point is 00:15:48 I've heard. Because, because they're and disappear and they disappear and they
Starting point is 00:15:52 disappear. There were people, for example, the shamans, some chamanes, um, that
Starting point is 00:15:58 they'd they're that they're in the fourth dimension. It's for
Starting point is 00:16:05 so that are an example, those who know Harry Potter, the elf, Dobby.
Starting point is 00:16:12 How it appears and disappears, it's an ability that is a ability that they're in
Starting point is 00:16:20 the same quarter where you are you know, but for the fact that they're
Starting point is 00:16:24 in other dimension no those in this moment you're
Starting point is 00:16:28 saying that could be duend Not only here. In the studio of podcast Not only
Starting point is 00:16:32 maybe in the quarter of those who are you are still in this moment could have one and no they'll say.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And I'd say something. No, you'll be to look at the window because you know you know
Starting point is 00:16:45 what you can't top. This that I'm going to tell me it's a sender a sender
Starting point is 00:16:52 a brenda a mann't a great abrass a salute thanks for the apporte
Starting point is 00:16:56 and this that I want to have much to with with this thing that they
Starting point is 00:17:00 appear and they're and they actually Brenda committed the error to look
Starting point is 00:17:05 for the window there she was she she was she was when I
Starting point is 00:17:10 had approximately about about she said that in this then she was she
Starting point is 00:17:14 she was a house very little because the situation economic was not
Starting point is 00:17:19 very good she she lived with his parents her
Starting point is 00:17:21 and her brother but practically the brothers don't
Starting point is 00:17:27 in a same abitation. She is of the state of Halisco. A brazo
Starting point is 00:17:31 to the family of Halisco. Here in Mexico. Here in Mexico. So,
Starting point is 00:17:35 he said in your room, she was the room, she had been with his
Starting point is 00:17:39 her mother, the major, and there was a cellion where they were
Starting point is 00:17:45 she was to do not in the sillion, because the sillion was a pegated
Starting point is 00:17:49 to a one. It's for those years had much a much
Starting point is 00:17:52 cold. So what she was going is a little a
Starting point is 00:17:58 many times in those nights to do in the sillion to receive
Starting point is 00:18:02 a little of the time. So, a night she she says she's
Starting point is 00:18:07 like a midnight she she and then this is this is rare
Starting point is 00:18:13 because here because here she's she she not she not she is
Starting point is 00:18:18 not of the person that run and they don't say they're of the person
Starting point is 00:18:25 that when dover in a position so I'm so I made so I'm
Starting point is 00:18:31 I got out of the camera well she she gets she'd see that his brothers
Starting point is 00:18:35 were but she feltia something that was her attention that she was
Starting point is 00:18:41 that's somara for the she she's that I'm a thing for what
Starting point is 00:18:47 why I'm for what I'm to look to be a lot of baldio was
Starting point is 00:18:53 was very dark only there was only a little light of
Starting point is 00:18:56 of the light in the street, of these postes of the light, but the
Starting point is 00:19:01 curiosity he gains. He's got to be and he's accostated and he a soma
Starting point is 00:19:06 for the ventana. He's that a little see a figure that was
Starting point is 00:19:11 there was a parted between the obscurity but that was able to be
Starting point is 00:19:15 for the light that this post of the light that this this silueta
Starting point is 00:19:22 this silueta she does that she is is looking and he
Starting point is 00:19:27 he starts and he starts signs. This he's like alerted
Starting point is 00:19:34 because he says okay I mean I think that that was a product of
Starting point is 00:19:40 my imagination or that was alucinand or that was still even dormita but
Starting point is 00:19:44 she yeah other again back to the ventana and
Starting point is 00:19:49 then immediately she would or intent to get us when she does
Starting point is 00:19:59 know that at the side of her there were three personitas that were
Starting point is 00:20:05 talking between them in the court there were these three she was
Starting point is 00:20:11 she was like some figures like personitas and that when she did
Starting point is 00:20:18 know that she does that they are looking these things
Starting point is 00:20:22 are they are in they, and they're to look at them, they say they're to say they
Starting point is 00:20:27 they're to be a form very tenebrose or a a sonrisa macabra she said
Starting point is 00:20:34 she said she said to say the name of her mother and trying trying to
Starting point is 00:20:39 get her but she said she said that she she was talking to nal
Starting point is 00:20:44 nay yeah she despirta nahe but it was very despacito
Starting point is 00:20:49 very despot so then I'm to start More the voice, when, for
Starting point is 00:20:55 my mother and she says, what's the, what, what, what, what, what's said?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Deseaparces. It's like if were, they're fumannan. And, yeah, this person, she says, no,
Starting point is 00:21:10 well, is that, this and she molest, imagineate, the despirtas
Starting point is 00:21:14 the madrugated, no, oh, oh, yeah, duemmate, calmate. Well, the chick. So,
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm, so, enojada, oh, oh, oh, boy, me, you're just
Starting point is 00:21:21 you're not inventes, doormete, no, no, you know, there's never to sleep, and in
Starting point is 00:21:27 when you're to get to get to get to do keep, Kike, newly, like for
Starting point is 00:21:32 art of magic, they're to appear these things. Yeah, that are in these
Starting point is 00:21:37 things, she says that, be how they're more, you're not three, they're more,
Starting point is 00:21:44 in that moment, says, be how this, go, van, and they
Starting point is 00:21:48 can come and can can't, and caminand all they were various
Starting point is 00:21:53 and when they were those things a one meter of she said I don't wanted
Starting point is 00:21:59 and I know I know I'm gritted mom so that my
Starting point is 00:22:05 mother heard and she went to she I don't
Starting point is 00:22:10 I could explain nothing because I don't to because
Starting point is 00:22:13 those things was that was just that my
Starting point is 00:22:16 mom was my mom was to to sleep with her his quarter
Starting point is 00:22:22 with my papa I'm I'm I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:22:26 I'm I'm in my mom my mom she got dormied very so my
Starting point is 00:22:30 papa my father and when my mom was I'm
Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm I'm back and there they're those people
Starting point is 00:22:39 sometimes other again says I'm what I did was
Starting point is 00:22:43 tap me completely completely of piece to but in
Starting point is 00:22:47 when I tap I'm the camera, how can't and for my my
Starting point is 00:22:52 my little I'm to feel like if a animal like a raton would be
Starting point is 00:22:57 my person. I said, I'm when I felt that I was there
Starting point is 00:23:03 I, I started the way to basically to start a my mother,
Starting point is 00:23:09 my father, because I don't know I was really it was
Starting point is 00:23:12 an experience terrorific to know that you know that you're to be
Starting point is 00:23:16 your mom and you know there There's something there that you know that is
Starting point is 00:23:20 but that's and you're you're saying you're that you're that the sensation well you the person
Starting point is 00:23:27 you know you can't you can't you can't I can't say the words because we're going
Starting point is 00:23:33 but but no no the real that the feeling in that in the
Starting point is 00:23:40 in the in the madugada in a place where you should well
Starting point is 00:23:44 so what happened she she doesn't remember nothing she said she said
Starting point is 00:23:53 she got dormied but more than she she she
Starting point is 00:23:57 didn't because no remember nothing she she at the
Starting point is 00:24:02 more for the no the pressure in the moment she
Starting point is 00:24:06 disvanseo and he and he and then he said I
Starting point is 00:24:11 my 24 years of age and never never ever
Starting point is 00:24:13 ever ever never ever that she she was, she has developed
Starting point is 00:24:19 certain dons because he's that now can perceive things, see I'm put in the
Starting point is 00:24:27 piece of this chick, from the fact of being, and a past that you you're
Starting point is 00:24:32 that's only just so like, you're even with your mom,
Starting point is 00:24:37 to feel that that you, I know, that you don't see, that you get to
Starting point is 00:24:42 you say, mom, papa, these things will be to disappear.
Starting point is 00:24:47 is what I'm a lot of the attention that's how these things can't
Starting point is 00:24:51 return to our plan and say it's impressionate the ability that these entities
Starting point is 00:24:58 or these or how they call to some these elementals they're impressive it's impressive
Starting point is 00:25:04 what you think you think that now have there's
Starting point is 00:25:07 so now I think we're we're we're having um
Starting point is 00:25:11 a moment in the history of the humanity where
Starting point is 00:25:14 And then at certain levels of some governments no less than accepter some things that were going to be succeeding. No, I want to start from the theme. But we're in that moment, where the history us is telling many things new. The history is changing constantly.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I just between yesterday and today I had been recituling and thinking in this. The history is changing constantly. And I was talking also in a program where a storyator
Starting point is 00:25:45 platicable that's a okay today. Today we continue desentterrando the history
Starting point is 00:25:49 and what we're going to be going to change the history to change the right, the conception
Starting point is 00:25:57 of our conception of our world today is. Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm
Starting point is 00:26:02 desentterrado history until has been many of years before Christ.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah. But here we've started to find vestigios that remontan a much
Starting point is 00:26:13 time more after. Why is I'm going to this? What has to be with the
Starting point is 00:26:17 moment that we've been where we've been when they're about this this theory of the
Starting point is 00:26:22 chords, of the vibrations that begins to cover much sense and that maybe can make
Starting point is 00:26:27 that we're we're seeing we'recied in a certain dimension and in a dimension not because
Starting point is 00:26:33 they're being vibrating other frequency. So, are some ideas so
Starting point is 00:26:36 rapid but because so I'm because this will start
Starting point is 00:26:42 to expand our know about the paranormal about the metaphysical. There's
Starting point is 00:26:52 a group of people that says, hey, is that only exists
Starting point is 00:26:57 what can demonstrate the science not to the experimentation but
Starting point is 00:27:04 at the final of the day this is what can be
Starting point is 00:27:07 perceived for our five sense. If escape our five sentences, there's
Starting point is 00:27:11 there's an area of the science that says if it's if it's not your five senses then it's not
Starting point is 00:27:16 you can't see, if you know what you can't hear, if you know you can't listen,
Starting point is 00:27:19 it's not there's and there is where it the name of metaphysical or paranormal but for
Starting point is 00:27:29 other side there other portion of scientifics that say oh yeah is that we're
Starting point is 00:27:34 we're we're not we can do it we can prove a through the
Starting point is 00:27:38 sense that are this type of things. There is where I'm a little bit
Starting point is 00:27:42 a little. Okay. And I think can be these these different
Starting point is 00:27:46 differentationalal I think we we have to have the mind open for many
Starting point is 00:27:53 things without that not we don't we are not not for the
Starting point is 00:27:57 thing not for the style exactly. But I think that if we're
Starting point is 00:28:02 we're we we're to be of being very aberts in things of and we
Starting point is 00:28:10 indigar a little of some things for that us make sense today. Today
Starting point is 00:28:16 me would make a much sense this what you have you these these are the
Starting point is 00:28:22 biggantes because we're about we're dweens about us about us alfos about us
Starting point is 00:28:27 there's there's many things and we did we did in an episode here in an episode here
Starting point is 00:28:32 contigo in extra normal this we know We don't know Really There's a
Starting point is 00:28:39 There's a There's a word There's a word, there's These ideas traditional mysticas
Starting point is 00:28:45 Antigues For call them They've been Kind of in the past And all the theme
Starting point is 00:28:51 mythological All the theme mystico All the theme of the legendas
Starting point is 00:28:56 probably probably there are many situations that out of But
Starting point is 00:29:01 but also I'm sure that many of the things that that
Starting point is 00:29:06 the story, the mythology, the legends could have been able to be reales. Sure. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I was just about a time of history Egyptia. Uh-huh. So, they'd
Starting point is 00:29:16 be surprised of the things that there. Yeah. But, no, I want to
Starting point is 00:29:21 get to get to the time. Regress to the thing of the dundes and
Starting point is 00:29:24 you say something, the caracted, they, they, they, they,
Starting point is 00:29:28 they're many people those describe as little some about
Starting point is 00:29:34 of the middle about the depending on in what the world you find you
Starting point is 00:29:38 or region of your country then they are adding certain characteristics not
Starting point is 00:29:45 the the cheneke classic of here is the little in other places
Starting point is 00:29:50 they're in other places they're like the duend of caeas gorgas
Starting point is 00:29:55 with some with some but historically they they
Starting point is 00:30:00 they of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, the, of the, which iscandinava, no? It's there where has all this, of the time of the trolls, no? But, you can't find, as you say, again, as a. You know, some time, from, parts of Europe, Italy, Orlando, this, this, this, New Orleans, this. There is a maldito?
Starting point is 00:30:26 No, no, no, no, no. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, it's, I don't know, I know, I don't know, I'll I don't see almost movies of terror. It's a movie that
Starting point is 00:30:34 is a Eurovision that's that I'm remember that his name. But are a pair
Starting point is 00:30:41 of chicks of Icelandia that are that they participate in a competition that's
Starting point is 00:30:45 a music in Europe, mannan to a representant of every country.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But resulta that the chava, for so I let me I'm
Starting point is 00:30:54 is very creyent of the duendes cow, no? Incos there
Starting point is 00:30:59 a place, a part in the movie, where where it's like in a loomita, a colina
Starting point is 00:31:05 that there has houses, they're to doenders, and that's really. Even there a buske
Starting point is 00:31:11 here in Mexico, I don't remember a but right that you was saying,
Starting point is 00:31:15 I know, I remember, they're like these little chosita and the curious is
Starting point is 00:31:21 that a time, I've seen a video of a creator of a creator of content
Starting point is 00:31:25 is that was that was that was a bosque, it would be and not is that
Starting point is 00:31:31 dweens, but I'm in the chosas fruitas cascaras of fruit, of mango, or rest of
Starting point is 00:31:39 semillas. That's what was what was really the attention because to enter to the chosita
Starting point is 00:31:44 the chosita the chosita, the chosita for the who don't know is like a cabanita a,
Starting point is 00:31:49 a houseita a little that were the people like in honor to
Starting point is 00:31:54 these sers. And this creator of content visited the Bosque and
Starting point is 00:31:58 these chocitas have doors you have to open and you're in the majority you've got to rest of
Starting point is 00:32:05 semillas or these rest of fruit so that's what he called the attention who put there.
Starting point is 00:32:13 But well that was it was like a little and without and without we're we're going
Starting point is 00:32:19 we're going to we're putting the preamble for the next history that I
Starting point is 00:32:24 want to a difference of the earlier, that was a story Colombian,
Starting point is 00:32:29 this, this story that's this story that has to have to doundes here in
Starting point is 00:32:33 Mexico, in the state of Tabasco. Everything all over in the surest,
Starting point is 00:32:39 the majority, is what I'm doing the point of the majority. But it's
Starting point is 00:32:43 what I've to say, Paco, much of the traditions, much of
Starting point is 00:32:48 the culture are more more preserved in all the area of Mexico, no?
Starting point is 00:32:55 the medicine traditional, no not we're very long Catemaco is in the state of Veracruz
Starting point is 00:33:05 Sir of Veracru no this Oaxaca Sur of Mexico we're going to talk to Tabasco the Alushes of the peninsula
Starting point is 00:33:13 of Yucatan The next the next anecdote is here this is here this the same and it's
Starting point is 00:33:20 from here the court of Paco Arias oh la man but But, well, they're going to say, is that why all this is all right? Because
Starting point is 00:33:26 many of our traditions still still are you conserved. As a not much, we'd have to some Beatles, to those Rolling Stones visiting a Maria Sabina. And I was about the the children,
Starting point is 00:33:37 of the, of the children, no, my children, or the children blackos. Maria Sabina, the sacerditia
Starting point is 00:33:43 of the gongos of Waukheimens, Oaxaca. No? And I was of these, of these, of this sanation
Starting point is 00:33:50 spiritual that had to consume these onos, no, not we do we don't we do any of
Starting point is 00:33:58 the consumer of any non-sustances psychoactive to do you know, but there's historically
Starting point is 00:34:03 I think it's like that's so why they're going and then is that all all it's because there
Starting point is 00:34:09 still there's still with the with the cultures and so
Starting point is 00:34:13 so then just you think you you've you in these chosas
Starting point is 00:34:18 that Paco us we we're we were they're they're
Starting point is 00:34:22 all some animals and things for the style. And this is the
Starting point is 00:34:25 case of an an one a man he he's
Starting point is 00:34:28 a Basque Tabasco Okay Fikate that this this
Starting point is 00:34:35 story that me has get Alberto Betto me
Starting point is 00:34:39 has this history he is the Tabaske and he
Starting point is 00:34:43 he lived much years with with his family
Starting point is 00:34:46 so yeah and this little Mazate upa here
Starting point is 00:34:51 in Mexico in the state of Tabasco. And he describes his infancy, like a infancy, a life,
Starting point is 00:34:58 well, a life, well, dedicated to, the rancho or a granja, as they want to call,
Starting point is 00:35:05 here they say ranches, no, roadiedos, as the creation of animals, serdos,
Starting point is 00:35:12 gillins, those poly, you know, something of a, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:35:18 but, he, he, he, Dejo to be that little and secure
Starting point is 00:35:25 for him and for this is a reason of a series of sucese that, as I'm
Starting point is 00:35:32 still still I'm still I'm and say my infancy I was in great part
Starting point is 00:35:39 in a little rancho called the guanal maybe some some people
Starting point is 00:35:44 if not are listening from Tabasco and they're sound
Starting point is 00:35:47 durissimo this history of the rancho the Guanal in
Starting point is 00:35:51 Mazateup Tabasco Tabasco. As you repito just he's
Starting point is 00:35:56 a place this rancho the guanal for them
Starting point is 00:36:00 because a day of a little without how
Starting point is 00:36:04 his animals started to have a strange comport
Starting point is 00:36:09 in the first in the first in those the poeos those
Starting point is 00:36:17 boys started to come in a manner extra extrana.
Starting point is 00:36:21 They'd they'd like they'd and they they'd and his coo
Starting point is 00:36:24 and he moved a form fea and he retorsia and it was a
Starting point is 00:36:31 back and then and then even even some of these animals of these animals
Starting point is 00:36:38 gallinas galleos and they costable to work to get to the first
Starting point is 00:36:44 the first was to the first was a one of the animals
Starting point is 00:36:49 they said no we'd think we're in other something but they started
Starting point is 00:36:56 because almost all the days he was he was to present this
Starting point is 00:37:01 situation from when it and after the time they
Starting point is 00:37:06 started to notar that when when when he was
Starting point is 00:37:12 the animals start to act to do his cooes of the poyos yeah no's returccied
Starting point is 00:37:22 in the night in, yeah a time over the night but well this this, of a repent
Starting point is 00:37:29 from the adult and the the ancians of the rancho he started to sonar to that these animals
Starting point is 00:37:39 were endemone because it was too strange that during the day they were so they
Starting point is 00:37:48 had this situation and discarded the thing of a problem of a problem
Starting point is 00:37:52 and just could think in that they were in a
Starting point is 00:37:55 species of possession because the family was disconcerted
Starting point is 00:38:01 the family was angstia for this situation and
Starting point is 00:38:05 in and in bus of responses and after a certain
Starting point is 00:38:09 protection recurried to a an an man a
Starting point is 00:38:14 local certain a person that Betto describe as an
Starting point is 00:38:21 anciano with a rost arugated for the years sombril in
Starting point is 00:38:26 some way with the eyes undied and he went to the rancho of the
Starting point is 00:38:33 Wanal this chaman let admit that there there
Starting point is 00:38:39 was a presence extra in the ranch those described to the
Starting point is 00:38:45 moment as the ancestrales that not they were that
Starting point is 00:38:51 they were their this this is a real a family because just
Starting point is 00:38:58 they were in those where the rancho gets to a certain point and then it's
Starting point is 00:39:04 a head of and it's a time where it's where it pertaines
Starting point is 00:39:10 to the government no are not are they're they're
Starting point is 00:39:13 they're not they're they're of some manner started to expand
Starting point is 00:39:18 a little the limits of the rancho and they they're really and they're
Starting point is 00:39:23 that they've have taken the land for these people that's
Starting point is 00:39:29 that's that's what they describe the chamann. And is that I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:39:32 that you interrompa but that's the that's the that's that's the
Starting point is 00:39:37 people people know, so for that's also is that they're so practically what
Starting point is 00:39:43 they were doing these people not had a form or in in his mind,
Starting point is 00:39:49 or in his imagination, because they were basically what they considered their
Starting point is 00:39:56 and the chalal and he said that what was what was these these
Starting point is 00:40:01 were they were going to castigar to the family for their
Starting point is 00:40:04 their their they're they're they're to try to
Starting point is 00:40:10 the side the situation and they're to do
Starting point is 00:40:15 their resos, they're at the limits of the rancho to try to pass
Starting point is 00:40:22 to pacivar the things with the theme spiritual. Sin however, this
Starting point is 00:40:28 only was to turn to turn worse. These Cres ancestral started
Starting point is 00:40:34 to act to a manner sanginaria and I use this
Starting point is 00:40:38 word because one a night of good to first
Starting point is 00:40:42 in instead of that these animals started to act to normal as well they're
Starting point is 00:40:47 doing were found were on the heads with the
Starting point is 00:40:54 heads were and they're not invented kiki it's it was a thing that was aterer
Starting point is 00:41:12 a family and they decide to go to go to the chaman the chaman
Starting point is 00:41:21 the chaman he's that's he's his rittos in the place and he does
Starting point is 00:41:27 he does these vengatives and despiad to this point that not they were
Starting point is 00:41:34 to make that nobody he was rebatar to his territory and in the mind
Starting point is 00:41:38 of Betto and of his family began to start the
Starting point is 00:41:41 question but duend in plen no 20, 20, some of us in 21?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. Well, as he said, okay, that I thought it was a lot of
Starting point is 00:41:51 a lot of I don't I could give credit this situation. No, Beto, as
Starting point is 00:41:58 no, it was of the adult, he was a man, he's over the 16, 16,
Starting point is 00:42:05 he, that during the next days, the duend those were to asker and
Starting point is 00:42:09 to pursue, and many strange. They were around the house,
Starting point is 00:42:15 rizas burlones, resonable in the nights, and the sombras aseched
Starting point is 00:42:20 all around of the rancho. It was a situation that was insupportable. They,
Starting point is 00:42:27 in some moment, decide to confront his fear and to get
Starting point is 00:42:31 during the night to espial what Betto me relata,
Starting point is 00:42:36 the really, friends of podcast ExtraNormal, a me
Starting point is 00:42:41 I made the feel the hell the you know to get my
Starting point is 00:42:46 value. I've tried to maintain me for you're but
Starting point is 00:42:50 I'm more I'm I'm that I am quite me inquietable much more
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm here here go my story because I know I was
Starting point is 00:43:01 I was reading this some years this is a story very recent
Starting point is 00:43:04 that me made really I'm done to learn to learn because it
Starting point is 00:43:10 was And I said, you know, I don't I can't continue with this. The flotta is it, but tomorrow with calm. Then, after to make a pause in these audios, retom, Beto and
Starting point is 00:43:22 his family decide confront their fears and espiar that was what was happening in the obscurity. They were in silence, expectantes
Starting point is 00:43:32 in the middle of these inquietant sounds of the rancho, the risas burlona, the sombras, and it was when then we this is what
Starting point is 00:43:43 this is what me said little silhouettes with eyes brights movings into the sombras
Starting point is 00:43:50 malevulas that perforable the air of some manner pesado frio over
Starting point is 00:43:56 on this place that we know that we're a lot where does it's
Starting point is 00:44:00 a lot where does it's these duendes had said they
Starting point is 00:44:04 had seen he said that in this moment the terror
Starting point is 00:44:09 is abodero of them like never they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:44:12 they're no and obviously you know you know you know yeah he's
Starting point is 00:44:17 he'd ohol postravate no because because it's a image
Starting point is 00:44:23 a important is an impactant I like you like you I said
Starting point is 00:44:28 a time of the history of Brenda I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:44:30 put in the moment and I don't see how reaction
Starting point is 00:44:33 they they they're they they they're how torturban
Starting point is 00:44:38 the grange. No. Yeah, no. It was only the poyos. Yeah, they were
Starting point is 00:44:42 the cochinitos. No? And they were how with his hands they were like if the animals were
Starting point is 00:44:50 titeres and those man man, that this is something that's a question and me gave much a
Starting point is 00:44:56 question. Because the few stories that I heard never had heard something. The question
Starting point is 00:45:02 me surge me if this they can do they can do with animals? It's Sentife, Hokio.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And you know what? I think I think this next story, one before of the that's in Wauaca,
Starting point is 00:45:15 I think it was going to before, or after because it has much to be with what you're
Starting point is 00:45:20 going to go ahead, all right, I'm going to go ahead, oh, God, well,
Starting point is 00:45:24 yeah, I don't going to continue this. Well, let's repit
Starting point is 00:45:30 they're they're how these duendes, these chankees were they were in
Starting point is 00:45:37 manipulating to the animals for that they were they were torturing. They were in their desperation,
Starting point is 00:45:44 their necessity to find peace, the impotency that sentient and they were, is that
Starting point is 00:45:51 how we can we can't we're we're doing what we can't do? So the
Starting point is 00:45:56 chamal let's reveled a little more he, will be to try
Starting point is 00:46:03 to try to contact with these and in this contact that is the chaman
Starting point is 00:46:08 says to the family of Beto the duendes, the cheneques not going to permit that nobody nor anything perturve your territory sacred.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Sin however, there is a way in that you're going to live tranquillos with them
Starting point is 00:46:28 and partying the place with you. You need a tribute to pacivar your
Starting point is 00:46:36 enojo. The offerings. The family begins to offrendar all the nights desperated for a little of
Starting point is 00:46:47 a peace, of protection, still in the council of the chaman. And even as they were in
Starting point is 00:46:53 a state of terror constant, waiting that in some moment this offrenda
Starting point is 00:47:00 not were sufficient for the duendes. One night after of much
Starting point is 00:47:06 time and can't and can't to realize these
Starting point is 00:47:10 offrendas although they were to have adapted to the presence invisible
Starting point is 00:47:15 of these things they felt something something in the
Starting point is 00:47:22 night Betto describes that sensation and that moment
Starting point is 00:47:28 as a night very very past that was
Starting point is 00:47:32 the preamble for something more dangerous. At the other day for the
Starting point is 00:47:39 morning, the family reunita took the decision to abandoning the rancho El Huanal
Starting point is 00:47:46 and to sit in the Pobu in Tabasco. From that that's
Starting point is 00:47:54 the actuality nobody live in the savannas of the Rancho El Huanal. Only
Starting point is 00:47:58 Gannado Pasta there. She became enchantable. It's a
Starting point is 00:48:03 a place phantasm No, nobody no no way he's not a bit of
Starting point is 00:48:08 that's that is the situation is a place for these that's he said
Starting point is 00:48:16 you repito as people people people and not more of a
Starting point is 00:48:21 minute with a miras burlones and sombras and sombris that
Starting point is 00:48:25 were all the rancho those same characteristics that are
Starting point is 00:48:29 they're they can repitient in different histories. Definitive are series that are very celos,
Starting point is 00:48:38 they're very celios, they're very territorial, and I think you have to have much careful, because there are people that have taken this ashercment, this contact with them, that if they say they can get to have the innocence of
Starting point is 00:48:54 a little, but can be very perversus also when there are moments in those that are provoked. But a lot of things, Kike, that you know you know those provokas but
Starting point is 00:49:05 they're just for simple um we're like you can't doestar
Starting point is 00:49:11 they're so they're so naturalness and at exactly exactly exactly
Starting point is 00:49:17 this this that I'm going to talk passed after 15 years this person
Starting point is 00:49:24 me he's a one is a senior great but this he occurred when she
Starting point is 00:49:30 was still too much more And he had a So he was a He said He said that She was in a
Starting point is 00:49:37 village at the Afuras of San Sebastian Only me He said He said He said She was only
Starting point is 00:49:44 She was She was a She was She was a He said a He said He said that He said that
Starting point is 00:49:50 He said She was She was She was She was She's Papa The Abueles The Young
Starting point is 00:49:56 And a What's About a A one Kilomet Of the people. They were in the
Starting point is 00:50:02 embradios of maize and the people work to the year. And this little.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And this is the fascination to help us. So, he said that all the morning the new
Starting point is 00:50:12 he was and he would be to go to to get to get to get to the pacharons.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That's there's a meal to the sienbr it was very normal. The people are
Starting point is 00:50:24 going to say, like a little about about something that happened after
Starting point is 00:50:27 15 years. We about us a describe where all the people
Starting point is 00:50:33 know. No, it's super common that's in the commonities. So, no it's
Starting point is 00:50:36 that the people, oh, it's not it's so much common. So the
Starting point is 00:50:41 then the little and said when the campana took about at the 12 of the
Starting point is 00:50:45 day was like the was like the thing that the he was very
Starting point is 00:50:50 very complete with his mom was very obedient and he said my he
Starting point is 00:50:53 had a case to at the five 15 minutes maximum
Starting point is 00:50:57 that the the campana sonable my my was here in
Starting point is 00:51:00 house. Yeah I said that I had to go to get to get to
Starting point is 00:51:03 once it was it's a normal the new he's going to the
Starting point is 00:51:09 mother and the mother's the problem here that's that's the
Starting point is 00:51:14 can't pass the minutes and the little the mom says well
Starting point is 00:51:20 we're to let's let's let's I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:51:24 he's he's he's he's got to continue And I'm going to go ahead 10 minutes more
Starting point is 00:51:30 and his his son no regressa no regressa then is when she alerted because he's okay my
Starting point is 00:51:37 son no is of those who does this and if if I'd be able to get permission and she
Starting point is 00:51:43 will be to in that she decided to go and she starts to start and when he gets
Starting point is 00:51:51 to come a scene very very perturbable at get to see his little
Starting point is 00:51:58 his completely without without without eating eating styrcol of the
Starting point is 00:52:05 she's she spanta when he's being this scene he he says he's
Starting point is 00:52:12 what he says the man no reactonable it's like if if it's
Starting point is 00:52:16 like totally absent like a caron the mom
Starting point is 00:52:21 preoccupated the mom preoccupated he's what what mostrava attitude
Starting point is 00:52:28 of locura no I was accord no wasn't conscious
Starting point is 00:52:33 he said in this moment Paco no I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:52:37 I'm my my arm and I carried and I go
Starting point is 00:52:43 I got I put my my he was completely
Starting point is 00:52:47 desnode the I the I think is the personar complete
Starting point is 00:52:53 the what do the That is the first cross. That's the first cruises. That's Antiguerre. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:01 He says that the Antigua, there was the parroco. The parco, the parco, he started to rest for him. And at the few minutes, my son, he says.
Starting point is 00:53:12 But he, when he goes to he does a count that he was completely desnude and that his hands were
Starting point is 00:53:18 in the stiercour, all his car. He's to be to get to get to I said and it was where he
Starting point is 00:53:28 he said he said he was he was playing normal and that he saw
Starting point is 00:53:36 she saw she was she but that she said that he said he saw he was he was
Starting point is 00:53:44 my mom that's rare in my mom but well he said that this
Starting point is 00:53:50 woman not she was only he took to the man and he
Starting point is 00:53:53 he said let go to go to It was all what he said. So, so he was going to do, and he said, come it, he made a panke. And he's all what he said.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Obviously, no was her mom. His mom, despite to hear this, sent you in the front. And here is where he came to the mind, the classics legend of the abelos. His parents of the lady say, A girl has to go the Roppa of the
Starting point is 00:54:24 Nino is Malo that's It's quite That's She said But she She went
Starting point is 00:54:29 To get To get to She's a She's a She's a She's She's a She said
Starting point is 00:54:36 The Ropita The Ropita There's The Rupita Rises Burlona's Those Risitas But not
Starting point is 00:54:45 It's three, four But for all sides They were And it And it's I heard how
Starting point is 00:54:51 they moved in the yervers and the rizzas and a rizas and a rizas and a rizas
Starting point is 00:54:54 she the only he did was to take the rope and start running. He's
Starting point is 00:54:59 Paco I know that this probably not what was the people. My
Starting point is 00:55:03 son for today is a person normal but no remember
Starting point is 00:55:09 that he's not he he just he just he only he just
Starting point is 00:55:14 he's this thing so so so of having a contact with
Starting point is 00:55:20 a little supernatural and still how it's the situation. For that I know, these
Starting point is 00:55:27 people are these have been like that I don't know I don't I don't say that they're bados
Starting point is 00:55:32 but get to have attitudes something passados of the answer for so say
Starting point is 00:55:38 yes yeah right even exactly exactly so this was
Starting point is 00:55:42 what he was what he to this person that person that's what
Starting point is 00:55:46 what you what opinion of that Well, could we Entrelasar Much Histories
Starting point is 00:55:50 No? Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, uh, there's a fin
Starting point is 00:55:54 of legendas that are about these about these in these places
Starting point is 00:55:59 of the camp, of the, of the sea, of, this, this,
Starting point is 00:56:06 this, this me really, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:56:08 the, the, the, exactly. So, it's, so it's,
Starting point is 00:56:12 uh, so me come to the mind I don't see
Starting point is 00:56:18 there there there there there there there but
Starting point is 00:56:24 but principally these two I don't see how can
Starting point is 00:56:29 convivir these because that is the question that me
Starting point is 00:56:33 surge already now how where how where could
Starting point is 00:56:38 have been only those chanek test of that
Starting point is 00:56:42 other was the was the of some manna, was enbrujou to this
Starting point is 00:56:48 little, no, no, I know, I know, I know, I'm that's incognita.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Like, that's, that's, so, so, that's, so, that they've
Starting point is 00:56:59 heard, even in the city, here, it's also that when they're to find a,
Starting point is 00:57:05 to the person, to know, the people, about the people, about the children, of,
Starting point is 00:57:11 seven, eight, nine, nine, nine, when they're encountered are in
Starting point is 00:57:15 a trance and at the minutes it's like they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:57:19 they're they're doing or they're or simply how they're so some situations
Starting point is 00:57:25 very strange before before to us you know I'm to tell
Starting point is 00:57:30 this this anecdote because the fact is that is of the that's of
Starting point is 00:57:35 the fact that's here in Guacca this seidid me
Starting point is 00:57:38 said Paco I me I'm He said, decided to leave me with my
Starting point is 00:57:45 abelos because they were problems and I say that was the first
Starting point is 00:57:48 decision because my abelitos those I'm in my course, today
Starting point is 00:57:52 for they're in peace but the living with
Starting point is 00:57:56 one of his experiences and I understand he
Starting point is 00:58:01 he lived in the Sierra in the Sierra free because
Starting point is 00:58:05 it's a friazzo tremendous in the mess free
Starting point is 00:58:09 there never you have there neblina and he vivied there with
Starting point is 00:58:15 his abelitus he said Paco they were the many years of my life
Starting point is 00:58:20 he he had coffee in the in the mornings coffee racy
Starting point is 00:58:25 made of the the embridios of my abel or so something
Starting point is 00:58:30 something very some some they're going to say a
Starting point is 00:58:34 situation in poverty but for him were those
Starting point is 00:58:37 years of his so then then Yeah, out of the romanticism
Starting point is 00:58:43 He says that the abuel had the custom all the all the mornings of that was to look
Starting point is 00:58:50 to get a to let uske because you see there's that there's there's many times
Starting point is 00:58:57 I was I'm there a regular that my abel that my old was
Starting point is 00:59:03 never you're never you despeges in me if you see
Starting point is 00:59:08 something extrano, Buscamin. Always to my abuela me made a collier very
Starting point is 00:59:15 that was a amuletto and he said that I used to me allentable certain things.
Starting point is 00:59:22 So the nights there were very bad because the anochecy
Starting point is 00:59:27 very very there and there and there and there a
Starting point is 00:59:32 day said my abuela like all all the
Starting point is 00:59:35 and my Abuel. Necessitamous Leanne. So, I go with him and we're going to practically like
Starting point is 00:59:44 200 meters. I don't cargave a leon. My abel me said that where I saw there was a tronquito
Starting point is 00:59:50 that I could to carry I was going to but that that was a very strange.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I started the sound that's the sound that's when they are because they're
Starting point is 01:00:02 being imagining that sound. So, how I sound the sohas when someone
Starting point is 01:00:09 go and I'm going and I'm going and I'm no view nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:15 The problem is that in the lapso that I took the look at the
Starting point is 01:00:19 look at the abuel and the abuel, the abel, but not is that
Starting point is 01:00:25 the abuel not stood, is that he he was he was where
Starting point is 01:00:29 he should be to be to be in this moment he he's
Starting point is 01:00:33 he I was justated because no he'll the abuel but between
Starting point is 01:00:36 the arvoles Keeke describe that said he says he's
Starting point is 01:00:42 he's described like you well you about the 50
Starting point is 01:00:46 centimeters medium meter totally totally delgated very wesudus
Starting point is 01:00:52 with rostros abegentated orh ears ligeram large that
Starting point is 01:00:58 only they were they were and they were And he said, He said that there were
Starting point is 01:01:05 at those and they were how they were in the arbores some over of the arvoles and they were and they were
Starting point is 01:01:12 saying, I began to come to him never had seen, but in when I started to my
Starting point is 01:01:18 abelel these these me started to start and me began to have been to
Starting point is 01:01:23 there, there were there's there's there's some there's like some
Starting point is 01:01:26 there but rancavan these balls of the And I started to venting and me started to
Starting point is 01:01:33 molestar. I said, I started to go ahead. I was going to my time I tropece. When I
Starting point is 01:01:40 tropeas I'm trying to go back to the arvoles and they're to venting the bolitas
Starting point is 01:01:45 and I start the and I'm to cry. And I started, Abel, Abel,
Starting point is 01:01:50 in a moment he's got the voice at the long as his abuel. He said
Starting point is 01:01:57 Miguel, he's where you're The abuel, abel. Dice, to first, he's,
Starting point is 01:02:03 I've heard a little a petrata. My abelio I've seen started pietras
Starting point is 01:02:10 to the arvoles that were in front of me. In this moment these entities
Starting point is 01:02:15 disappear but so disappear and they're and they're and my abel and my
Starting point is 01:02:21 abelion and my children of all for which they're to my nieto
Starting point is 01:02:25 and this and the other I'm maldicing my abelel me took the
Starting point is 01:02:30 brazo, me and asks if I'm going to get to the house. Dejo the there's a
Starting point is 01:02:34 leonia and I just heard that said one and other again, malditos
Starting point is 01:02:39 malditos how they're to make to do you get to the house my
Starting point is 01:02:45 abuela is spanta for how us be get to and I just I just
Starting point is 01:02:49 that my abel said that's that's they're trying get used
Starting point is 01:02:53 to get us not they're they're they're they're children, but
Starting point is 01:02:59 no they were growing, he gave that the encounter that he took in that moment
Starting point is 01:03:07 was with duendes and that effectively they were they were a bad that's
Starting point is 01:03:15 occurred in the Sierra of Oaxaca the really tremendous anecdote
Starting point is 01:03:20 brother no no there no there no there I'm the
Starting point is 01:03:25 The net Every time I'm Suffro Cah And the And the worst Is that
Starting point is 01:03:30 Every bit These things They're gonna To put more Maccabras Cah We've We're
Starting point is 01:03:36 We're Like the first Episodes Cawr And right Yeah The thing Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah And it Yeah It's
Starting point is 01:03:46 It's It's It's It's It's It's It's You get
Starting point is 01:03:51 To impact To me It impact Much The People The
Starting point is 01:03:55 people the people do the piece that we're we're we're
Starting point is 01:03:58 we're we're we're we're to get to get to get here
Starting point is 01:04:03 I'm know vivences of the rancho stories of because
Starting point is 01:04:07 they're many times in this type of places in
Starting point is 01:04:10 people communities that are very very typical of
Starting point is 01:04:13 to listen to listen that I'm think that
Starting point is 01:04:18 me see so because many many we think
Starting point is 01:04:22 we you just have you said, no, oh, well, they're like, so they're like exclusive of the rancho, no? This,
Starting point is 01:04:31 I, I, I'm, I'm a special for the final. Venga, Kike,
Starting point is 01:04:36 Arrankate. It's something that in the personal, to me, me, me,
Starting point is 01:04:43 I put in alerta, me put to think, and me to do to do
Starting point is 01:04:48 of the things that that I see I'm I see and I
Starting point is 01:04:54 You record. You, because to me I'm called this place. But it's this
Starting point is 01:04:58 place, man. Latelolko, I remember. It's a zone that historically all the
Starting point is 01:05:06 Mexicans, all listening, us remember this this sad episode Prevue
Starting point is 01:05:14 that those famous Olympiadas, right? No, no, I want to talk the
Starting point is 01:05:19 theme, are very sensible, and I, for that I know if I'm very respectful, because also not what I'm going to
Starting point is 01:05:26 but we're going to we're in the city of Mexico the Telolco and this also that's something is something that I've got to get to get many of the stories that are recent
Starting point is 01:05:36 that's that they're that they're called and some and some like new no. Here,
Starting point is 01:05:42 Kike. I'm I let's I'm that's a little I'm I'm changed
Starting point is 01:05:49 of the And I have Some of those Becinos, a A couple And they're A little
Starting point is 01:05:58 Even the family There's even the family There has to It has to It has been With the I don't We know
Starting point is 01:06:05 We say It has been A sound very peculiar All the time And the So, So, so
Starting point is 01:06:15 So, so They're They're Like, then Like the Like the Like, Like the
Starting point is 01:06:21 A new curious, a little, the chamaquito, this. And I'll say right for what I think in this
Starting point is 01:06:27 child. This story that me made them and it is a in a multifamily
Starting point is 01:06:35 of Tlatelolco. This, that's a new this, this that I'm going to tell us
Starting point is 01:06:42 new, this this, of actually he has his years. But me they're they've
Starting point is 01:06:46 made to make, and me said the person that me
Starting point is 01:06:50 she let's let's let's let's put a louisa no but me say louisa
Starting point is 01:06:56 that she's she comes from a family of four his papas
Starting point is 01:07:04 a a brother than she and she and that many years were
Starting point is 01:07:11 living in this department of multifamil rented in in the
Starting point is 01:07:16 telolco his infancy and said my my friend Paco Arias
Starting point is 01:07:20 that it's like they're that's a lot of this is the city but this is
Starting point is 01:07:24 the city me, I see very very citadino but well what you what I'm
Starting point is 01:07:31 what I'm that was that had a a infancy a sumament tranquilla
Starting point is 01:07:39 that he records that normal happy where he grew with
Starting point is 01:07:45 his brother a man a man of two years of
Starting point is 01:07:47 a playing between those the pieces of multifamily, his passages, corrion, and from you you'd
Starting point is 01:07:57 know, but you'd think you have seen, in front of my mom, uh, vivian,
Starting point is 01:08:05 and Nubia, I remember those names, a person to that we're very chikos, and we'd to go to football
Starting point is 01:08:10 and to the and the behinds and the trapas. For so, at times these stories, even one
Starting point is 01:08:16 like, so one, like, so it's something that we could have
Starting point is 01:08:19 passed to any and for so I remember of this this
Starting point is 01:08:23 little my vicinito said said Louisa that they
Starting point is 01:08:28 were they were there remember about she her
Starting point is 01:08:33 and three four amyg and but there there
Starting point is 01:08:38 a little little that she that she remember like
Starting point is 01:08:42 with much term and also like with anonorance because it was the
Starting point is 01:08:53 the little timid retraided that in some way even was excluded by the other
Starting point is 01:09:00 like nobody he putia much attention no solito there always to the
Starting point is 01:09:09 door of a department of the multifamil that always was able a
Starting point is 01:09:13 a child of a mom solterer to see you and start and start to do you get a little a
Starting point is 01:09:21 caballier to visit her and that and that's what he said a little a little a final
Starting point is 01:09:28 of seven eight years and her and her two years more than she no so she
Starting point is 01:09:35 then she during the times that were back the school that you see
Starting point is 01:09:41 with the kids I had for I had for custom after to play to sit to play
Starting point is 01:09:51 with this little little that was that was that was always sent out she was sitting at the
Starting point is 01:09:57 door of the department and even they even they even they and she
Starting point is 01:10:06 she she said that even some nights as a little remember
Starting point is 01:10:10 to have seen with this, with this chiquitin, no, then he'd give a curiosity and tendura
Starting point is 01:10:16 and all, she'd he'd about one four or five years. And at final
Starting point is 01:10:20 a lot of many families, so much my case that I have to change,
Starting point is 01:10:26 you know, your case, not so much too, yeah. Compras a house in Miami,
Starting point is 01:10:32 and well, mackara, man, oh, and then, and, so, they're moving,
Starting point is 01:10:37 and, and, and yeah, so they've pass the years for what
Starting point is 01:10:44 I'm in the finales of the prepa principles of university that is
Starting point is 01:10:48 when you 18 19 years and he says that for
Starting point is 01:10:53 asares of the rest they they are to visit
Starting point is 01:10:57 to some people to that multifamily that they
Starting point is 01:11:02 were they started and they said Louisa to
Starting point is 01:11:09 her oh Pepe you You know, that here, if we've, we've been with the chavito
Starting point is 01:11:13 of here, and all, yeah no of them there's there. Okay. But who who was
Starting point is 01:11:19 was this mom, soltera. No? The kid had been to have been more
Starting point is 01:11:24 great. Yes, so she says, ah, Summisha, this, uh,
Starting point is 01:11:29 sure that, that, that, that, that still still still is there,
Starting point is 01:11:34 you know, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:11:37 the, So then So he says that So he says No I don't I don't But because
Starting point is 01:11:46 He's like He's normal No, because it's No, well You're You're
Starting point is 01:11:49 You're You're You're You're You're You're You're But
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm There in the number
Starting point is 01:11:58 Tal, no And yeah And you And you And then There's She said
Starting point is 01:12:03 And it's A million Yeah, And it's a Many Yeah, Yeah, And it's
Starting point is 01:12:08 His your friends, no? Is that, well, is a woman who never took his
Starting point is 01:12:15 no, inventes. And they they're these quats, well, there's
Starting point is 01:12:23 there's many years living there, the fact, is the only, that has much
Starting point is 01:12:28 time, all the other departments have been as and they they're
Starting point is 01:12:34 they're they're they've been, but Well, no, they've been to visit a lot of some people,
Starting point is 01:12:40 but she is only, is a solterer, never she never has children, and, we've done
Starting point is 01:12:47 with her. Dice, Louisa, that in that she she got pazzmada. No,
Starting point is 01:12:57 well, imagineate. She kept passmada that a that a frio very extrano
Starting point is 01:13:04 he started to recor all the spalda and that he started and to cry and to
Starting point is 01:13:11 and to and to and his brother no didn't know she she put like very
Starting point is 01:13:16 she was imagine that they they'd you know that what you thought you
Starting point is 01:13:23 was that was a final of count so so it's a man that's a
Starting point is 01:13:26 man that's a man that's a man that probably probably maybe
Starting point is 01:13:31 or it a spirit or was a Chanek. A dweener. She's a She said
Starting point is 01:13:39 like he was a duend. For that I'm a story for this episode. When you me said
Starting point is 01:13:46 Kike, we're going to this, I'm going to this is the story of Luisa cabron. She
Starting point is 01:13:53 me he's a she. All was very vivid for her. She has
Starting point is 01:14:00 a record total. She said, Kike, you I'm sure. You I'm sure that I
Starting point is 01:14:06 I'm sure that I'm sure I'm sure always the door open and it was a custom that never never was a
Starting point is 01:14:13 woman yeah. Quentan his friends now that that's that's so no?
Starting point is 01:14:20 No, manch so then I'm I remember of this chavito and sometimes I know, to be
Starting point is 01:14:26 see this this is this he exists carno because my way me he's going
Starting point is 01:14:29 to you know I'm sure I'm I'm sure you I'm there's no if
Starting point is 01:14:34 there's the He looked to see him and even I'm sorry I mean I'm I'm sorry and I'm very to say they're very
Starting point is 01:14:40 so they're very respectful but we're just we're living there no there no there's a yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:14:48 yeah I'm sure after that you know no know I'm really I feel I'm a chos
Starting point is 01:14:54 yeah so it was a story that me I'm impacted much because imagineate no to
Starting point is 01:14:58 that one of your one of your time the pippito cabron that was your good
Starting point is 01:15:03 O'ye, Paco, but is that that pepito never existed, boy. No, I mean. It's that no,
Starting point is 01:15:09 well, well, I think I'm really, I think I'm put to think in Louisa man.
Starting point is 01:15:17 You blow the head. Putta. I mean, for the expression, I think I had I
Starting point is 01:15:21 said various groceries as soon as like, but way, me impact a chingo. But I
Starting point is 01:15:27 think of but but but it's like, so it's like if it's like if you say,
Starting point is 01:15:32 that Nubia and Adrian never existier. They're a product of your imagination. He's a I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:38 I'm sorry. You remember? You know, you? You know, yeah. You know, Juanas, that was
Starting point is 01:15:43 his prime. And I said, yeah, yeah. Never has been like that weird, boy,
Starting point is 01:15:48 to a day to get you to say, no, way, but we're so we're in the year,
Starting point is 01:15:53 oh, oh, oh, oh, and I see my carnal? No, you're,
Starting point is 01:16:00 you're, you're, you're, what, Well, what you You know, manches, I've always I've always
Starting point is 01:16:07 I've always I've always Like, I'm Like, is that this never existio Or your family No, I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:16:14 I'm saying I'm changing I'm But let's That's That's We're going to To get to
Starting point is 01:16:20 To the To the Cheneke's This Well, Well, Well, So she
Starting point is 01:16:25 She says That was That was a That was a That was a That was a Aparison Or
Starting point is 01:16:29 That's a Well, maybe in the soledity of this muchachia, no, yeah, then, then, then, but,
Starting point is 01:16:40 was, the pair of, this caballier, that she had to get to, she, she told her after the,
Starting point is 01:16:47 the people that were, uh, never, she cased, it was like the second of this
Starting point is 01:16:53 caballero, no, never took his, he, he, he did his life, well,
Starting point is 01:16:56 to receive it, and, and she kept solo, fell, a final of the day, no?
Starting point is 01:17:01 but never there's no manches Kike no I think no I think I think any person
Starting point is 01:17:08 the head in the fact of the fact to try to assimilar that much of your
Starting point is 01:17:14 past because not they were as well as you like you but it's a phenomenon
Starting point is 01:17:21 incredible tremendous and if all those with those with those who were
Starting point is 01:17:24 I'm I'm sure that more of a person of those who
Starting point is 01:17:28 are going to question many things and I was to have to have to do some some
Starting point is 01:17:32 yarmes to confirm certain records but I'm just to think I'm to say a caray
Starting point is 01:17:38 and I'm to make a memory of with who I was halle I'm in a year and I was very
Starting point is 01:17:45 amiguer but but who know who can know who you know that's
Starting point is 01:17:49 maybe those people in Facebook and if not those find them don't
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