EXTRA ANORMAL - 110 | Mis alumnos veían ENTIDADES dentro de la escuela #podcast

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

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My, my alumno, and me I said, I said, you know what happened? And I said, what did you do? Like,

I always was up the arms and so. I said, what I'm saying, I'm going the chairs of

the mess, because the we were to barren. Yeah. Bache all the chairs that

were in the and when put the last in the cell of there in front, I, I saw,

a foot of a, and I said, no, and you made so, I, I've seen yeah

I'm trying to bring the light he's but I'm I think I'm

I think I'm I'm saying I'm going to talk other things that I'm

going to and all a rath he's he's he's it's that it's

it's that was a man but it was a man he's

a black Hello Hello, A lot of A podcast extra anormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm very

happy to to be to be here with all of you guys in this occasion we're in the

city of Guajaka and I'm very content because today I'm to talk about with a maestra with a

friend my my friend me and Paola how you're very good to be here thank you

thank you thank you I'm really I'm very very content and I'm sure that what you

we're going to be going to talk about we're especially because we've

been my mom that is a master also to start in municipies, are quite lehanos to the

city, where there are many things. So I'm sure that you try's many vences that we're going

impact on this moment. Family, in this moment, I want to tell us that are the first

videos that you're seeing, you're doing to the family extra normal. I'm part of this

project, appellando us also. Recurred that you like, subscribing, you support

to that the project still growing and then we we're more to continue more content. And also

I'm going to find out of Instagram, where also we're doing stories of all the people that are,

you're doing the chapter. Fyata, Paola, that a people, I like, because it's

like a movie, they're in their camera, put in the podcast, they're

their palomitas, and then then I'm all the photos, I'll all part in the stories,

then I like, see, to see how they're doing the program. And,

we're going to start with this night of the talk about. Kedens to the

final because what coming is very interesting. Paola, you are in the

phenomenon paranormal? Yes. What is the experience that you to you can

you change this panorama of this thing? Well, no see if

me changed, in reality or if I have This part of the tradition

oral, as I've shared many things, my papas, my abuelos, and I'm like I'm

to continue that line, and then it's really a question. Okay. But I think I

think I could tell that since that was a recent I've been in Chiapas with my

papas, and my father also my papa also we've been in a house that

was a I was a part of the school. So, I was a recent-nacized, and in that time felled a brother to my papa. So he had to go toxtepec for all this process. And my mom and I, we know, we're not

in the house, but in the house where we'd beaums, well, they're going to tell them that it was very rare because all the nights they'd hear passes in the techo. In the techo. That's a classic, no? Passes in the techo. And also, something, something

curious, it was like a, you've seen these cubettes of aluminum? Yeah.

Well, when you put it's water and those put in some part in the

piece, they're in a particular. So, so are very scandalous.

And, so my mom said that's like that's always,

and a time, and in the room there was there, there, a mess,

siles, amtoned, and they said, but they were, so mows, and

they were no, I was in order in your place. Okay. In these

people I know what is Chiapas, Merida, Yucatan, a grand part of the surest of

Mexico. With the time of the new new people not see a phenomenon that's repite

much. Yes. Well, of the fact, it's very common what of

the bruchas. The of the bruchas that chupin the children to put the

tigeras like an cross in the above of the almoas and other many

many times many I've been put in the end of the skin sal they put

the same the stheras the liston are like little I'm I'm half life but

are like some little trucos or or we're forms

to protect and me really really attention because in this region

where we we I've talked with various abuelitos or

persons yeah grand of the third age, they're they're

these processes. No, if there a new new has been in

a case, it's a because the woman can

get in the and the men, they are

that they're going repit in various cases but what

me surprise then then to hear to get to a

entity a type a they get to raptor to little to

these infants or even they're in their certain markers that are the

famous chupetes or chupetones or even also there have been cases talking I

with an friend to do a person to investigate to those those

can't let us we don't we've for so so

so so how how how you you in your

case what you what What you think is that has been this phenomenon? Well, the

really, no, I don't know, but, like, for all the experience of the stories and

all of this, I think that it was something. Okay. This, even, also,

also, talking about when yeah, it was more great, me came to live here

to Waxaca, this, well, not so very, but if during my primary

infancy, in the community where I had a a Cerro. Well,

there were many serros, but there one in specific. And like we've learned

much to parrarned to be in a certain part of the community, to look at a lot

in the part of the area of the area. So my tias or the people that were

saying, are those are the bruchas. So yeah, and we know, if we're

we've grown with those are the girls. Now I don't I don't have seen those

really because I have been really that I've I'm I agree that we're seeing

so I'm so they're like poles of fire that's of that's it's curious

because the maestors that have been in communities or even we've even about

the same capital but of years after it was very normal

in that's that when the people are that when the people are

they're simply runes spherical I know how call them

but they're to fire and these they're sometimes between

arbores between serros it's like a phenomenon very really

really I'm not I have put to a person as

directly that so directly that that's where we

let's where it's form this phenomenon because many they're

much they're in when in the phenomenon what they're

they're but it's a phenomenon very impression that

the people also of the podcast has known as because we have been about him

but let us tell us another or a nect you have been doing because you have been listening

various there for example of the parents of family as like the

students so that is so that's impressive yeah well yeah

like to also to end with the thing of the the

not or no not not to not to but I

would like to tell a story of my abuela. Ah, ma-va.

This, just right in that part of the community where I'm still my

abel there. Now, there was a poe. So, it was a public, no?

In that my was a house, and I had to get to get to

a water. And my mom was a little too. So, so it

resulta that in the work he was that he he had to go to go

before to have to anochecy. Okay. So, so it and he

started water and he was a little bit of a little bit so I was that was a little bit more

so. And my abuela, knowing that was a braw and that my mom was there

was in the pozo, well, he was probably yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. So, so he, he was, he put, of the water, and he

carried my mom and he's let's let's go to go and said that in reality the ball

of the umbra the she used until what was the limits of the

community but yeah not but my my mother so

wow and it's those entities that are in the moment

to make to make to be and in this moment

really really so they were really one because

was was going was the thing that's the

people that point to be able to be able to act to be because they're in their environment,

they're basically basically, well, more more more comfortable, they're basically like that's in the

water, no? Yes, well, where I was that was a serro, or where that's a

zero, more than there, there's a part that many people know, or,

well, not is so they're not Like the serros, the coveas. No you do you know? It's not a lot of respect. Because I feel that,

of actually, you know, I have a lot of that many things paranormal have to with the naturalness. And with the spirits that are in the natural.

That's all I learned, with all that and those caves and the sermons. And those caves are very very close to

this, a, to this serro, where they were in the bluas in, or, well,

the balls of the I want to say that are brujas, no I see. And,

um, also have some stories very interesting of that part. Those are in tapas,

like seyated and they were a lot of things for that they're a lot of any, and

there's a story that said that people were there, they were in other place, in

other cave, in other cell. So, like, they were like, they're over

a part subterrani but but they were, well, so,

like, like, like, so, they're like, are affected

psychologically because They're seeing something. I imagine. Yeah. And, of actually,

they're like plantas strange, fruit, raros, animals different. So, it's a

story very, very extrana because, well, many people, we're in we're

met them and we're that there out of the , what happened? And those, you're

those, you're the are the are you are the are the but you can't

start to get to some I'm one of the other

places that most visit because I like much, I like a lot

and it's very close of the community where my live my and then so for

so I'm so you know? And no you know? Yeah, I've passed some other things

raras one, this, one occasion I was to see, I said, no,

we're going to the couple, so, so, so, before to get to

see, I'm going to we're going to we're we're we're

we're very rare because we always we're like the same veredas and we're

going to we're going we're going we're going to we're we're in we're we're going to

we're in cunclay sat down vying us and I had a third of leon,

me imagine that I've had gone to join leen and we we've we've seen

some ongos that were commisible so that can get guisar and we're

we're we're just we're just we're not and the The Lord us He said

something like here the natural you know the day that you don't have

to come you're going and you go to go and you're going to get to come. It was very rare and

he said if they've said nothing of that that's to say that that's like it's like

it's like he's like it's like it's like it's like it's just we're we're doing

we're in the whole in the whole we're we've got to And so, we said, well, if we're we can't get, we don't, we'll

do we want. And you do you, you know, and you're like a person normal or like a spirit? I want to

think that are the spirit because also another day that I went to the same place, but I was like

in a way to let me have to enter a coiff, it was a way we're going to get to

get to a little to come a bivora enormous, enormous, yeah, it was a

mido day and it was super gris like, like, like, like the solos of the sun.

And I traversed so the entry and I was and I read and I'm there's a bigora,

no, there's a naturalness of many forms. So, like you feel like

there's where they do access and you do that that abundance so, so,

for that you know, for the time and they're like those negative that of one form

or other because you ask no, I think no, I think no,

is the moment of that we enter because it could pass something in this case would be a tragedy

I think we need to learn to learn to the things only that only that have to be

observators what is what is what is two years still it was the last of the

pandemic or well I don't see if was the pandemic I went to

to go to go and well and well there also there there of

the community and my prim an history so if you

know, if they're like it, no, no, no, they're in the night and the

night and they go to visit one of the man, no see what, and they're to be able to get in person

of the house, so when they're going to be going to be there, and many,

many people people have seen people that have been there. It's like a type of maldition.

And me remember you much, fagate the anecdote that we told my good

friend Uriel, that's he's a few months that he he found out in his, I think it was

his community, if in his community, they were a cuba that was a little was like a

discovery but it was very curious because he was going to a serr so he is like you

in the sense of that he really much venturarse and to visit

this type of places. The people know this anecdote. He was

with his novi in this moment with his wife and when

they found antigues like artifacts like tools, as a place, so everything

was encrusted in the in the in the parreters not. It was it was

it was amazing because nobody of the people had had no

so he said he said we said we need because before before we

did not we was a old and it was so it was

it was so it was not And they're in the mochilla. The problem of this is that, I said, my novia,

he's infirmed very and I'm going to the doctor and medications, one, after other, injections, studios, and

she just didn't he'd never, and so he said, no, I want to, me I'm too,

so he he says, I think I'm going to move, no, the medication, no, the

medication, no, he's we're doing we intend of all. And, like flashed so I remember

she's she brought this so it's possible the case is that the first

first was in the morning of the day various the second the time he was

he does he does she's a night I'm I'm going I'm going I'm

I'm I'm my mochila I'm to one of my

alums accompany me just here in carretera you you

you you I'm going if not regress in a time you'll go to the policeia

but I need to go to because that's he's he's he's

he's he's he's he's going to the mountain because he

not in the cuba not it's not it's like there a way you go

you're going to you're on the there's so I'm I'm never a

no part because I try it that I'm that I'm just me was going that

that much And he says, like for art of magic or work of God, I'm made very

the way of the way. I'm gritted, here I'm give you give me and I

give them in peace I'm so I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm and my novia like for art of magic

I don't see nothing. Impresionate for so something something

you mention is the thing when you met this type of

places to have much the respect the respect the pay of the permission the be of very careful

so not get to destroy because that that's not not it's not it's it's not it's a

new year so so if you know the access to those places it's

so me makes it's very because you can you can't

try so you respect the what you think you respect

the the fact to exist to exist to be in energy really and you can't

you can't you know to this this day I remember when we went to go to my

friends that me had said I don't don't get not any a money and I

know and I kept taking a photo to a alcon that was in a little

my primos subi and when I went to and when I did a money

a peso a piece in a middle of a peddota and I said,

I said, well, these me put the money for, for to make me

to make a or make a or do you, or so, even I'm even I'm going to talk a photo

for a record but then I'm going to no, I'm no, I'm going to get a no, no,

no, I'm going to imagine, it's a lot of because you're not pretty well, you're just

yeah in the time laboral and talking with your students or contiguing or with

Well, I have a story that has still a little bit to be with the coves. But yeah

it's I'm, I'm, I'm a work in the year ago, and I learned much more about this part that

the serro has a man, has a spirit and has many things that one don't know.

It's very difficult to comprehend but if you know respectas and you live with

the natural in peace, well, it doesn't not to not in the reality. It's

well, it has to be with this to get to get to a

coveas precisely in the community I'm in a day of the

people to tell the legends of the community so I don't

not I'm not I went to I'm to

ask to and me and I'm a story that I

also in other a town to go to send

his products so so so getting to a

arroo, he saw that in the serros there was a door, that was like a kind of an entry,

so he went, so he was he was and the door and the door was

and then he said he said he was a mano very grandote where there were

people that were doing people who in their work kind of in the

middle of the cello like like it was a kind of something

and of a He was he said, no, you can't be here if you're doing nothing. And he was

with the dwean of the place. Okay. And the do you know of the place was in

a, in a salon in where there was like a table with a banquet of many things. All this

into the circle. Dentro of the circle. Wow. That's the person, the

interview, and me said that this man, well, that the guy, he said, he said,

he said, he had to try, that first could come what he I mean, initially, what he Kisner, but that

not he could have absolutely nothing of there, because everything was he. Yeah, he had a dwean. And he was going to work, and he was carrying water. That was his job.

Of a repent, what was carrying water, he did a point of that he opened again the door and the sir went, and the

he, so, no. And, so, he went to his house. So, however, when he went to his house,

it was a little rare, that I think is something that's a lot of

these stories, resulta that had passed a year of that he had

disappeared. Wow. The burrow that he had used with his things

to the community, he went to go to and he had been a thing, they

had been done by a person disappeared. Yeah, the senior re-apparcee a year

and told his story and they They're saying, of the year, no,

it's a year, I'm going to like, I'm going to talk about in a lot of many years,

but then it was, like, there was, there was, there was, and all this. So,

because all were, they were, to be to be a story of the senior. So,

they're going to hear the voice, of him, where it's where it's but what is,

that the Lord, he told what he had passed, and the year The year next, exactly the year

The year next He died of Yeah no, yeah no Vivio more I mean, the she said that for reclamar his almano

because he came out of something. Oye, a bit, a point principal, before that's

me forget, the, how describe those persons, how humans normales, or duendes, chanke,

sanctities, so how is that's this contact with these, no, is that I don't know how

call them, but these entities that were there that clearly I consider I'm not humans.

I feel that they're like almas a thing. I think as well like. Like spirit

in the naturalisa. Yes. But now what I impression is the bucle that

is the what's what you what is like the triangle of Bermudas places

where the space and the time can't totally. You can be there some

minutes but really in this plan yeah passed in this case it's a year it's an year

it's impressive because there a mystery in the earth, well I don't want to but there's a mystery of

there's a way I was I'm listening a person that's a person that is to investigate phenomena

like these that says that are places in the earth where they're where they're there are

vortices that at the same time generate like these campos that

many do you interpretant as portals so when we're we're we're

we're the space of time and it's when you you as living now the time

in how is it's being to the other where you you've been

you've been there has been there's so that so that's there's

there's as a time where it's a world very interesting but it's

interesting that now, before I forget, there's a there's a podcast, that's a one day

collaborate with him, this was in the exploration urban. And was, well, what I was a

I, I don't, I'm not I'm not I'm not, I'm the clip

where he was in a place with with mountains, and there there's

and there's a point he said he said, he said, he was a very a door, and

he said, that door not was there that point not was there and that that was there and that

that was there and he's to start and he's to start but something to get to to intimidate

and he went there but what curious are the doors in the serros that is

impressive I'm I'm I'm quite with that yeah it's

quite interesting yeah I think you're you're you're going to

watch in Wachaka many many people that you can't

tell a similar of serros and people that

are They're in the serrows for the for the for a for a for a

so so that they're not going to be able to make certain pactos? Yes, there's

there I try to try to try to try to try to make this a woman

that's that's in the camp to a person who had to join

leena and he he said like you go to do I'm I need

to make you make a case here for me and he

and he he and he the cerro. And effectively the person, was, well, but that's

I would interpreter like a pact, no, I think so. Yeah, it's a but I'm also I'm

also, so they're they're saying they're in this type of offrendas, capillas, these monuments

that they're that they're that you consider you could have been said that could be it's

the devil. Yeah, I think they're some problems more so they're not. So the

Yeah, I feel like I'm proof of what you do you or not this type of things, because in the

naturalness on the things that we can't explain things, or that's that appears in an animal

or you pass something with some, I know a situation rara that you can't you even

even have seen working in the sierra I've seen in the nights or stars that move and

you're so someone more for that not like the only person and then I'm going to so it's a

classic, over obniz also in the mountains of the arras is typical super mega normal,

typical and so about this a little bit of Guacca that's a place that's for all places

and be serros for all lads. Well, you know I'll say another to say

another story of the community where I have taken an center ecoturistic in that

community saludos and know where is Well, that community has a center ecotouristic

with some very bonnets the fact that they're going to get to get to get a little there. Okay.

After this after this is where is exactly. Well, and then after this I think

that maybe they're more more to go. We're in various occasions in this

center of ecotouristic it was to present the community for any for any event

that would of the school of the community so. So, then we

took to peddle various and one of Those days, we're much with the Lord that

and his wife and she was that she was that she was so that then we went with the momas and then

they had said like, that there was like a, she seemed a little and things so we're

not we're very well with my time, so it was a day, it was a day, she was to move a columpio

or so mecer, There were two in the structure and only there one meciendos And all was like We're super leased We're super lexed

And so And so I'm I'm so I'm I'm back I'm with some Momas This is To get a columpio

And we're Yeah And we're We're just And so that She said Yeah And for the

Columpeo I think No, but But for the Columpeo The senior So the first The people

I'm going to Say the Okay, are two are two. In theory, the two Yeah, it should be. Exactly. And I don't know if it was, I think it was

another day, because we've we've seen events we're talking about, but another day, we've seen how the door of a cabin. We're very few people this time,

and we'lllteam and it was open the door and no there didn't even't there, and then then it was a lot of a house of a

longishishable. It's really, ah, this is this type of activity that's this type of are very notorious in those types of places. I mean, I thought

I thought they were going to be like when they're going to say, I mean, like, to say, let's go, no, you know, I guess that, no, I'm going to, no, I'm no, yeah, I'll getro and it's, I don't know, I don't know what correct. But I'm sorry, but I hope that no, it's not, the lady, because if,

you know, figureate, that in the house in where I, in that community, yeah, vivio, a psychologist also with me and we we're going to she was

she was there was like a balcony yeah and he's a little and he one of the

house that he he was and he gotrava and he gotrava and she

yeah we don't we know we don't we know we're supposed that so she

she she she like she like we he was in his son he was

she didn't know without a the signora he said, no, well,

is that and she she said, and she was the there. There was he. It was it.

It's that also. It's that a form a little suspicious, I think. Yeah.

And it's that sometimes when happens when this type of situations, all the time,

it's I mentioned in various capitals, well, the almas or the spirits,

no see, they're in the way, not they're not even they're at the

other side, and And a of the time Relative, I mean, for a time

one hour are 60 minutes, but then the other other side can pass much time

and they're in the time. So, like, they're like they're in this

type of places. And so if you say, that's the cause of his

fallaciment, was very strange, no? If you that's, it was like,

it was a accident rare, and and it and the car.

Okay. But what you are saying right me has

much sense with a story with one of the stories that I'm that I'm

specifically for today also in that community this is this is me more

nervous because this this is because I'm a little bit nervous and I'm sorry

we're in confidence yeah and I'm yeah and I'm so that's the more

that's the yeah I'm a bit more I'm a resulta that in that

community, there a majordomia that was a day. But there a capilla that's

in the serro, lejos of the little all the but more more

less less of the city. Okay. And I was a carmion of the

community. So, I'm at the night, like at the night, and I'm

also the master of education physical with me. So, so, the

house of there, there had a taqueria, no? And I, but

before to get to the carmion the carterterer and it was very rare because it was

and they're and they're like, because no, it's that's the majordomy and you

want to you're at the party, no, well, we we've got to get us the

people and just so in the can't be to the middle we're like to come

to buy some something and I'm going to get my things two quadras

and two quadras That was two quadras, one square or two quadras to go over. It was their house and where they'd

go and then we'd go and we're going to we're doing the so we're to get to report us because no there's much

signal and many things there. I'm up to my house, I'm going to my house, I go and there

there's two forms of going to go to this the taqueria no I see there's a one is a

Cajoncito Okay. All the days, all the days, I was over there to go to to any, but in that

occasion, just before to get to or to enter to the like I'm detue. And me

and I said, I don't see, go to go there, because at final, there was a part where there's like

pinos and it's also I'm so I'm there's going to be a borrachin or an

alumno that not was to the majordomia And, well, as they're going to care to espantar. I mean, I was going to

then I'm going to I'm going to be there because I'm going to be spantan. And then I decided to go for a valley parallel, more or less, because the alleyjonged, it was a lot of vultesitas. But the other alley was right, and then I'd like to pass it. But there in the casas the escalars

are there are there are there some cabanitas and I'm like putting the veil in a escalone

and I'm kid so oh me temlars my time and I said this she said

I don't me I went I don't go to the other but she I'm spanked but I'm a customary in

those in the communities here and she me said good nights I'm I'm going to

I'm And I was my companyer out of the tacos, no, so we're going to get those

and we're going to I'm going to and then I'm going to get to get to me spantarro to, no? At the

the time the year that did the did the majordomia us invited to comeer. Yes. And,

and came a psychologist that I think that still in the community and he said, and I'm

and I'm and I'm see, hey, I'm here in this house that I'm spanta a

person and me And he said, but here no nobody. And we're just in that moment, we'll turn to

and we're in the house and we see, I mean, all the windows of the windows were all right. I said,

how could be that a woman of an age advanced? So, no, no. There were

candedos and cadenas and all right and so, and so I saw that no there was so, well,

we got to the house of the senior that we invited to come. Yes. And he

I asked No, who I'm living in a house And he says Ah, you know She's a She's, no

It's her Yeah, no It's she Yeah, no It's she Logicante's than other Cause And so

And so Yeah, it's A house That's In front of The tortellie And there And I don't

There's And I'm like How can't No, I say Well, I'm a Yeah

But I'm Yeah, but You know Oh, no can't So I'm So I'm another

senior that was that I'm that's no it's

no, it's that I'm I'm I'm not I'm think you I'm

the people the place all the people all they're in the I'm in the

house of the other and I asked this okay a new a little

a she's a second second person and you yeah is a

babyita she live there and I think just in front

of the tortill and me says no And I said, no, no me

that, no me say that. There was another other, other becina there with the woman, and me said, no,

surely it's this, Tia Linda, I think, and I said, who, who is, and me says,

it's a woman who was, she was a, she put a infirm, and they were taken

to the city of O'Haca, and falleceo there. So, all the

people of the tortilliers say that in their car is that they're that move

in that's that's that's that's that's when the house

and the part of the time at the time at the time to work to work to work to work.

So, then they were all those things and I can't be and then they said

no, the day of the day of the daughter was her that was her she was your

daughter that's her she's the logic, the logic, the logic, I said no the

of this one of one of Facebook in the photo of the Shea.

Nothing to be. No, it was. And I'm, how it was the woman? This is that fellacy. And you know,

despite, I mean, I mean, described exactly the woman had a cabo long, and I'm

undulado. And I'm so, oh, it's not can't be, that I'm that night

and the she was like in a batita. Ah. So, and I said a bigita in batita,

in the sierra. Yes, no. No, there's a logic. No. I waske still in the

escalons of the house, well, from the rest of and everything, but

I never found nothing. So, I think that maybe was the woman. Relatively,

and in few words, Paola, was too, was close of a, well, of a morto.

Wow. You know, it'scalof yeah, I'm sorry. No inventes, Paola. It's that

this, I go, this, what you did this, what you really really meant

actually. I mean, super mega, I have to pass tons filters to know if what I see what I see, is a phenomenon for normal. I mean, I'd have done the same. I'm going to this woman, I'm going to the tortillery, I'm with the other, and even

diggeras, so, that, yeah, the plan, I guess, I'm just that, no, is that I did, well, okay, well, yeah, yeah, for what we do we, the spirit of the senior. So, then it's, it's a spirit of the senior,

abit that house. Still yeah. Still until that

not get someone in that house and he has a process of purification

where the house is free and this entity could transcend

and never they never you didn't how was that this

she had some had some had because when they're because

the people the people count that that is because not

concluded something, or a press, to these houses, for those, that are cases then they're

inbruchas or casas malditas, but never you never they told if that she never

had some a problem there in life, a little a situation that she would be

that she could be there. Well, I think that more to the to the

community that me told them more this of the stories, is that the people

not was not not was born in the community. So, because I've had been

in Waxaca here in the city. And no there in the Sierra. And no there.

Even me told them of a story of a person that they were

and just when entered to the community there, there fell in the

ambulance. Yes, in their house. I think I think I'm think I

think something to maybe the community is a a little solitaria because there's

much emigration so there's many little many little these people who are those people who don't they're that they're

like that that's really that's that's a love for those the fact of the fact of

in your house in your place where they've passed those years then those years has kind of

that's emotional no that sentiment that so that's my old when when I was my house

I'm in my house nothing, that if they get to get to get to the city of

Mexico, no, I'm in my house, and if there's a

of God then I'm there so they're going to these situations but o'ye,

talking you know, I've been in the Sierra of Guajaka where me have

given related that's that have to be with both with with chankees

bruchas and Naguades do you have topado with some

of these phenomena? No no I don't feel that I'm toped I like

I'm some of these things but if I've heard or if I have been

told people more like, fiat to say this this was

also also me my abuelita okay I'm talking

when she was a young she was very young well very

young said he said he said he had a a

a a the man, the man, the little she took to do

the piece. But, was the communities that were that they not were

in Spanish as well, then I didn't say, I'd say, I'd and they

didn't, and they said, they said, what you know, until that's

to get a little and he said that he's that she said that she was

a gawal, that she had a a wall, that she had a Tonal, no is that there's

a difference I think between tonal and I'm never seen the word tonal.

The tonal here in the valley of Oaxaca or no see some some other regions

also are some energies of the day that you know, for example they're that in the

doors of the casas put in senisas when when when there

when there there was when there there a rastro of an animal appears

a rastro of an in the senisa and that's your tonal you have the energy of that animal doesn't necessarily

you transform as like a while it's like it's like your guide or your spirit animal yeah

so something and so and then says my abuela that this she was a artilla

and partia we'd we're like the and they had been disparated to the

artila so so for so the she was so super bad I don't

I don't remember if the she was compo what happened

but my abuela conted that part what's what I'm what you do you know

what's yeah? Yeah of the actually it's like what what he

was like that the yeah yeah that's never I've never

tonal tonal what I want to do you I'm going to get to get

to because the walsi I've investigated I've used

to places in Mexico where supposedly exist in the day of

but never I've heard Tonal. I mean, it's how I don't know you.

Well, there's a there's there's of the calendaries mesoamerican that's called Tonalpouali

and also right right it's like the symbols Aztecas or no see but

in reality it has to be with the calenarios pre-ispanics mesamericanos and also

and also they're like energies no or you have an energy you

depending of the Feature of Nascimento. Okay. You have your characteristics. For example,

if you have a sign of an animal, you have characteristics of that animal. So, your personality is so. Okay.

So I think, I think it's a relation, no? It has been a little relation, but here the history is more

this, no, the senisa, and that you have that energy too, or you can't control the animal, of the actual.

Wow, to be, I'm going to try to connect what you me says with what one of

my friend Antonio Semodio us in a chapter of these chamanes that

can't have a vincal with the animal not necessarily we're not necessarily

we're not going to connect his psyche with the animal so if this

I'm you're saying we're we're we're we you get

to discover your how was your tonal you could

you're going to connect you directly with that animal and have a little bit of a vincal. And something that said the shaman that was with him, he said that's there up, that you're seeing, that's there's being, that's controlling the eagle, he

can't be for the eyes of the eagle. In that moment he can't bearty very because he's being at the time of the eyes of the animal, that's connecting. And he describes a series of things that

said that the eagle So, if they were in a same plan and all of what he did, the animal also is like that connection

that we that we're really very and here for example I'm trying to interlacar with what you

count as with the tonal that I think that would that connection still more special for the

fact that would be like your animal your spirit animal yeah wow

yeah the really is that I think is very interesting and there are terms

that we can't quite because we know we know, but according I think I'm the idea of that

that is more or less like the difference between one and other. But, really that's

what what me told my abuela. Okay. This, even for there my

abuel has some stories related to anaguales that I think he

could he could tell the better He saw a Okay Here in the Sierra of Waxaca

No, he is like for The Mixtec Well no Let's Let's get It's still No Chisland

For there No No, it's the Mixteca Um At the The Lajas In the

But this So it's It's that So, So, It's just that They were

To live in the camp Yeah So, Like, So, Like, So, So,

Exactly. And so, And so And so that you know that was like,

it was like a type yewa said, he was in a covea but I think I consider

that he could tell them better, but if there are there stories that have

very interesting he with respect to that of those that we hope we can

we can't talk with him because I mean I'm I'm like to

listen to the people to the experiences that have

there have time it's impressive how they've lived that part of that encounter with this type of

entities and especially because I think that anteriorly more, obviously in our raises were more present because all this thing comes more

of our roots our culture was much more more developed a little bit with the years like that then then

then it's kind of then it's but it's impression to me it I'm really to listen to

the people when they're that part of their life I want to hear to say to the people if the video, the chapter

that's like, leave your like, subscribe and not there in the comments and Pao, some anecdote

with that you want to be on the next night or the one or two that you try you. I have an

interesting that me, me that's actually more actually. Okay.

This, well, it's a school that in the in the that was working

in the many, I'm many years never had passed nothing. Yes.

In the transcurso, in the years that I was in the years of some people I'm not

I'm in schools of education special. So, so, falleceo a

little bit for an accident. Lamentable and we took us, we went to accompany

to the family, we went to the endierro too, it was how did

the time I'm like, like, six years and very very

very with a little, no, with a paralysis cerebral. So, there was an accident and, and, unfortunately,

he died of and other two students too, in other circumstances that one for the age, and

another, well, for the same discapacity and situations of the house, so,

so we're we're doing, we're doing the day of the maters, the altar and those

things, so, we're we're putting their photos, but we don't have

the photos actually so, then we're in the last years and the well,

this began to pass there in the school like a very strange because

they were people, or they were silhouettes of children some some some

some some one day I was going to a company and

he said that he said that he saw a a little out of his salon

rumbo to the passio of the vanes so he's there's a why he's he's not

he's he's going to know, and he went to get to be the mochila, that was the yeah, and

there was nobody then other other companions were to see there somebody to be there

somebody and no there really so my company that time was was super

spanked yeah just in that moment they were getting So then it was like, no, then no, because none of them.

Hjol. Then, another other companyer that's a area of maintenance, he gets more time. Yeah.

They're more time and there there are, there's times in that they talk to bring the lights,

still more when it was the time. So, then a day that I'm saying, oh,

in his salon, yeah no I'm going to get to and I said, no.

And you, because, you, because, you said, I, the, the,

the, and when I regrece, I was open to the salon, I heard that they're an chair,

said, but like a metro, for the less, they're not, and I'm like,

who is, I said, I'm, I'm trying, but I did much fear, and I

didn't know to get and there, no, there's nobody, and I'm and I'm sorry, and I'm

to say, well, we're going to do a, well, to do you, to get a to humah, to the

months, this person of maintenance was helping the students the class

and in the group of pre-school then in the recreau was probably in the group of

pre-scolar there was a window but it's a lot of a lot of a lot of material

for that not so they're not trepating all. He said he's he came

he went and he he said I'm I've got to the man the man of a

man of a man of the window of the one of my students. And I went to

and there's and no there's nobody, and no there's nobody at the door. And I'm

so, oh, it's right, in your school? This was in the salon of pre-school in my

office, in my office, and other day, we just we've been we've been almost

we've got a company with his his son, and they're waiting to the person,

and he said that he said, and it's the door to In the part of the back that's just

there's a one of the was a little was a little was there was a little not it's like no, not

not it was there was a little I'm put up I'm saying no, I don't want to say but it's a little there was a

man around and I'm so, ah no you can't no inventes ah yeah

and well all of all those things that have passed I've been I've got to be

alone in the school in the school of sometimes I don't have to be able to do not,

but if for some I've talked to be there alone and so long and it's a little

rare but but I feel that I feel that not so I feel more contundent for me

I think I think obviously to my people because I think much in these

things but it was very contundent for me that I came a morning

and since I've been one of my students I I kept being like,

I don't see, it's rare, no, and I'm so I'm in the room, so I'm in

my salon was a little so much so my yeah, my companyers not went to get the

and I'm all the because then I'm I'm afraid. I'm in the light and I

know, and me, and me say, you know, I'm going to do what I've got to and I'm

what you said, what did you something, like, I'm always to see, I'm

so I'm what you pass. Me He said, I'm back the chairs of the mess,

because the subied to barren. Yeah. Bache all the chairs that were in the

table, and when I put the last in the chair in front, I saw a foot.

Of a a little, and I, and I'm kidding so, I, oh,

oh, I, I said, and then, I'm just, you just, I'm trying,

I'm, I think, he, I think, I think that's, I mean, I started other things

that have passed out of and at a rato, he's that is that it was that it's that it's

a little, oh, no you can't see, me do much in this moment, I did much

fear, and he did you tell if we're the light, no? We're

we're we're we're not we're we're doing we're talking things of

this type but the fact I think for me was very contunent because

I was that I was that you I'm like you know I'm a general you know to your people know your and you know for example

who needs the bromista the mentorocito and you know those who are those who they're talking with with much

seredad and it's very difficult to doubt when they're saying to sometimes with that

conviction what they have lived so here here is where I always also I'm always

CREAN in what his kids do they don't take a loco or a

imaginative because for so they're much these things those people are

innocent and they're more easy that channel to to get that interaction

or connection or simply that contact with this

type of but it's tremendous no manches Paola

definitely there there there is I'm so I'm yeah much people

know so much for there for that can they can get in

that's because yeah, the fact it's a humo various vets,

they've done as many some they've done like some they're

put in some and then we think we but finally I think

that maybe we know we can't we can't not we don't correspond maybe

no, maybe to be maybe to be expert. Exactly. Tremendisimus

Annexutus Paola, thank you. Thank you. How did you feel? Very me spanned I'm sorry.

I'm I'm worried when you're talking. I was I'm feeling and is that this is the

part of when you revives this I think you know you see also you

see what you're in your moment this sensation recor to your

body and it's very impression family thank to all

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