EXTRA ANORMAL - 118 | Investigué una casa embrujada y terminé descifrando LA LLEGADA DEL ANTICRISTO

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

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that one of the eyes, and when me back, the chavit this and he says, me he said that, me says, all that I'm saying, all that

everything that was we're we're not we're we're not. We're saying, that's, all that phrase, eh?

So, no, they're not that I'm imagining, all the phrase me the phrase he said, and

and being to my eyes, God. Hello Hello, Welcome to a podcast extra anormal. My name is Pacuarias,

and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. Today, many have to know the place where me encounter. I'm going to maybe you've seen

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Antonio Samudu. How are you? My dearerissimo friend entrable, Paco Arias. Muchis. Thank you.

Thank you. You and your team. Here to the installations of the agency Mexican of Investigation

Paranormal. And it is an honor, but before to enter to the

time. This is a message for to tell a that's a like to listen like the reality of the phenomenon from a normal

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very delicate and I agree to say some investigations that's very important and then

don't you do you get to at the final if you interest to

hear about this issue. Amigo, before to start, record us your radio social and

if someone for a car is the first first time that's being the podcast, who are

who are too. My name is Antonio Samudio. I'm co-fund of the

agency Mexican in the Paranormal, initiator of the organism. And,

well, I have 27 years, almost than 28 years. The Investigation

Parananan Amigo, since we've found the agency and a your best, well,

all the time we're investigating, receiving cases, all the time is very active the organism. In the area of investigation,

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for that, you guys a little bit of a time and you guys direct to visit. And also I want to say that is the third time that we're here with Antonio Samudio. The other two collaborations are good goodismas, of

really. They need to go to see them. If not they've seen, we're not going to talk about Nahualism, burglary, the phenomenon Poltergays

of all this. So, if not you've seen you know that's a little bit a

little bit of going to be going to be the case of cases places, recintos where the

very much a phenomenon the famous phenomenon paranormal as Amudio in the inside of

the agency of the investigation he has got a lot of cases

that he he's he has investigated with all the team of the

agency so in this night he was going to talk about

of two cases that more a lot of you're going to have the opportunity

to visit even to get to get into a very investigation paranormal see or no

my well yeah the idea of just profundizing in the destinoes

in the other we're we're we're we're we're we're

basically to get to a more well a investigation of a person who lived

with a actual Sovereignatural paranormal, we always we're trying with the RETO

to investigate the places more afamated that have in this type of stories, legends or legends

urbanes and things so. So the first barrid that we did the literal to the

destinations and the places and the places as considered even even malditos or how

want to want to have been a thing a fact of this actually

a fact of the natural abnormals paranormal. So, imagine the barridor of the first moment when we started

classic, the house of the Tia Toña, that is of my tokaya, the desert of the lions, the kilometer 331. Of those that I'm mentioning

are of those that I remember in that I'm I'm talking about of 97, imagineate, in 1997. Much of probably probably didn't even

have been not even never had But in Davos, how they were, for example, the old movie of Venetiano Carranz, here in where is the agency, well, there's an infinite of cinema opera and so. It was like these destinos

that many times the people knew that there were one or another anecdote, one or another anecdote, that you said, if I went, me, I, and things like. So, so. So, so in this barridor,

I remember that in a moment, no, we didn't, no, we did, no, we do we have expedients. An expedient for that people is

when we know that the case like my encounter with the case of the case of

Florence has been a whole an little a lot of compromisions okay

in this case no in this case was okay what you know what you know

you know well you know usually he was usually he pertenice to a

family very a very very adenerate of the zone and that there

was a that The legends urbanes data in that. Okay. What's exactly? Well, there's, there's a delegation Antigua,

that are you are in the alcaldias, and you're and you're going with this house, that's a case, if there's a

type of thing. So it was like, like the pilot of the investigations, for so to say,

even to we have to a principle and a fundamental, but we've to evoke it in the practice. So, when

When we started with the Destino we're going to we're going to look at the area historic. So we went to

the house of the Tia Toya and to look at the house. Yeah. We don't

we're absolutely any data, like for example of other cases that if there

was an homicidio if there was a multi-hidio or there was a actual

a thing a incident of that so. So we just we're okay, it can be

it's just that's just that the people I think for someone who called or even they said

the note periodistic and it's like something so it's generated this false idea that that

that's the place that's okay so we're we've got we've got what we

don't know we're absolutely nothing we're going to the practice we went to the

town in that in that in 1997 to get to get so it was it was

it was it was to be all the the famed the house

of the tia because there were many cases even many

similar and it's a zone that is a area of a

lot to this power so it was there there

three people to find to enter in a car

in a private and there also you do you know

you do you do you don't you make in a

bronca legal sure no and that's that's for

all the explorators that they're saying, I'm in a rato where I get the the polo Yeah, no, you know, you're arresting

that's anionamient of morata. Exactly. Of fact, it's, it's like sort of

the message because many of the people who see the community Samudio are people

are people that they love much the exploration and something that also I've said also the

respect to all the respect under the house embrugated that I'm a great story but

no for so you think is that is available for you exactly and they're and they're they're very

they're much careful because there's one or another do you know that's under the law and then

I don't know they've changed or no Paco but here here for example there's something

that's a legalitima defense no I remember how is the term

defense defense yeah exactly so there there there a person

that has has a property that has a property that Sola, well,

that person has all the virtue and all the powers legal, if see a person

a person a general to the property, if you have an arm of the fire,

they can fire, and you can't to do that's the most delicate of the

thing. Because he, because he knows if you're not you know, he's with the affand

to assaultar, no know, if you want to you want, if you want to

you, you want if I have changed the I've got to do you have to do this but I'm

understand the person who is a new year of a property if they're intrusos those they can

gore to plomazos if they they don't they do it there's a so there's a question

there's a arrest in a ratito but as it's a legitimate defense invaded

invadid in their in their property then they they're they're they're

they're and it's that's like you you say you're to be very

very Quintam, Samudio, what occurred in the house of the Tatuiole? Is that is the interesting

of the issue. I'm, I'm that we get a pickable. It's

that we had to all the whole the thing of the house multiple

that there were things that were that devien of the concept

of the because see in person there that there there

there there was there there so because we

don't we didn't we we we've been, okay? A that we're

that we're that we're because I remember that we're going to a point and it's something and it's

something today for I'm sure that you can you look at the legends of the house of

the Tia and no there's reference to that point that we're we've we've seen

a bolt colgant and we we passed for that we're a point and it's super derruid

erosionated I mean, you know, you're just like a sort of, well, so, like, like, a barranquito, between the commies, little, that were like, 18 meters. That way,

you know, that's wrong. Because, but, you know, a carid of three meters to lastime, imagineate,

18, no? So, this, well, yeah, yeah, confirmed with the data that we,

we've got to, so, so we're, we're just, we're just, I'm, so, I'm, I'm still,

I'm, so, so, and then I'm in those lars, and we, and we, try we're

puras handicam I remember that we remember that we're going the handicam Sony

and I'm said and I'm saying the camera to detect a phenomenon for normal is

Sony. Patrocina Sony. Ohha Ohla. Ohla. So, so always

we get them handicam no, Sony. And I remember that these cameras not try

super night not tryan night the system night so it started to addicuer

to those cameras for around of the 2,000 approximately a little

before maybe but more or less in the 2000 so we're in the

97 we're just we're a pure camera with the songonas and it

was the high eight for for you know it's a so

a grandissimo that they said the eight millimeters and

we we we're we we're just we we're we're

we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're

we're like a like a like a residentia no of that's very

very deteriorated very deteriorated yeah in abandon total the yearba all

all crecida and we're we're at the time there there was

there there was a day and I remember in the first

you okay so okay well if if you don't they

they're because it was a magnificent stamp of a

house a a house a classic embruch okay

that evidently not you go with the fin, you say, we're going to be able to

know, well, we're going to do we're to do the exploration that we know we

call them the scouting and you start to look all the all the all what

has done the time, not only only for the nature of the natural

that it's but also the people indigente that's getting

to get to get to and if there there many there

was that obviously referer in something that's like maldita

because you you saw in the walled 6666 be you the connotation of the

satanical no pentagrams and so many many times the people the people they don't

have any idea and a pentagrama and a be a bit a thing is a thing

and the macho cabri is another so much with that because in the

occultism is man also the number even the number with a connotation

as it usually but for example, this of the 6666 would have to a certain

point to be a number specific that he rigged to the devil but it has to

be specifically that's the bestia sure. To be let us an idea to me

me me they're in the occutism this is the macho cabrio

this is the symbol of the macho cabri so is and because

it's see how how I many many people, much a lot of people don't know

that's why the rock people think they're like a sign of rock is the formation of the

macho cabrio is this unidos yeah it's exact so if you you're down and it's

a staria of five puntas and now the staria five points because it was a

macho cabrio the trompe to the roo let's do that little question of just the

of just the signific of certain Pintas that much people does because it's influenced for information

or for what you want to do you want to be exactly that were actually that were such ashtonical before before before that

me forget me Samudio because one of the doubts that me got in the capitulos that we're

that's what are those symbols that have Samudio atras okay right just

right we're we're going we're good question because we we're dealing with the concept of

Pintas Casa of Tia Tanya Let's make, we'll make a refresh. We went to the house of Tia Toña, we went to the property, we were the pastiles, and in the pintas of the

page, the graffities, all were alluded to 666, Clusse inverted, and they said, this, Larga Vidae. You're talking

in 1997. It's a feature clave. And you're going to reveal in your podcast, I'm going to say, because I this this is the last

podcast that I've with Marta and Garede and Jordi Rosado, we send us a where we're just of the phenomena paranormals of the church. Well, it has to

be very much that the house of the Tia Toña honestly us orio to another chapter of

investigation we don't we found absolutely nothing. Of imbrujada had just

the pinta. No had nothing, no had nothing and all But the Pintas are usually very... Like, like you'd like to

you'd even know that something that's about. There you go. We're, when we're going to when we're going to see no idea of what they're but, but then you start

to recorre the house and you're going describing to something I don't see if I'm doing to understand. In what sense? I mean, it was like,

painting a staria of five-puntas were like They were like a decifred in the parades, Paco. But I'm talking to we're talking to, we're like,

we're like, you're going to look at a, like if someone entered in one a time, and then someone would have to

enter to another personality, other X, and because he was the diablo, then I think other,

pinted other diablo, no? Yeah. There's to say, this people don't know

what he's painting, but when you start to enter to the case of the Tia Titoia. And you're

a kind of a big, enormous, because I'm talking about of a residence, these escaleras enormous, and we're

we're going to see that in the pints there had other pintas, that corresponded like a kind of

a kind of in what sense? You've been with the concept of the satanical of the

cross, I mean, the cross inverted, of the pentagrama false, that they called a

petagram, the satanical not is the this. And I started to submit those

Pintas. So, it's really the attention to say, well, okay, maybe the

paint of about, it's kind of something, that's a little bit to say,

or she went to know, and he started to start to paint things,

but when you're when you're we're we're to start, we've been that the

Pintas had like a species of a guy. And if they had allusions allopiously to propiously

to the avenue not is the avenue the vener the vener of the manned

okay so they said the avenue of the sir satan and then said the the sir

of the and so and then there were context of those phrases that I

remember that I remember that my investigators of the paneros of the agency we that had a context

a little more more more is there down. And one of of them

said, because here first they're an allusion to a satanical of fervor.

In the part of the top of the prince of the tiniblas. Then you pass to the

Lord of the light and then you then you know, and then we're just

we're like it's like a kind of a piece of a we're going to move we're

we're in one of the abitations mark at the final of

I was I'm I'm I'm talking that for that's because that

case if they still exist, I think that they're they're they're they're

to go to the box of the escalera and in the part of the part of the

wall of the door there's that they are the point to get to

a space to the second piece to to enter to the house

and there there there one in special that was the

part so it was more more more more where it's where

even was has marked a one of these camas type Provensal or what they call them

like those very garigolied like very pompos no of these recamaras antivues and I'm

talking about the 70s 80s approximately where it was very common that the families

had those families had so so it was how it was made the much time that

he was there and he's and on that that's the that is the that is the

power of the Cabecerer, this Bienvenito in 1999. We're in 1997. So,

so they were like, giving to something that was about two years. I'm talking that they

were in the Pintas like in a guise, up the stairs, and the house of

the tatoia, you get to that passio and in the passio

mark man fleches and it was like a way. It was a thing.

So, so when when you got to the The room principal saw that

stamp that I'm narrating and on the header that was marked because

yeah not was the camera and the cabcerer arrived said welcome

1999 wow and that so we we're okay yeah sure

we said we said okay what of the and you do you and you

start the returica with your investigators to be okay okay

aterisemone what we did what is what is what is what

is what the Pintas. And, ohio, Jason us had forgotten the concept of the house of the

Tia Toña mo- this, hechos tragical and phantasmas. Yeah, it was

to decry the message. So, I'm sure. Of the seven, six, and the

time, we're in the house of the Tia Toin until the 10 of the night, we're,

we're going to be to be to know but is that if there is a chronology then

other of my investigators, no, and I We're getting in those suggestions. I'm a good point. You know, a good point. You know, you know,

I said, Aver, Samudio, but why? Empeasas as, like, venerate. If you're going to, you know, like, to mention it,

one of them said, he said, no, no, no, it's an evocation, way, he's in Spanish.

No, is it's like an alabance. Fience how we started to do the rhetoric between the three. So,

I'm going to vial all. then we're at the night and at final one of them says what

you said what you're not it's no I'm saying no yeah you're you're saying no I'm gonna

well I'm gonna but yeah they're at the night and it's it was dark obviously yeah there

obviously there was obscurity total yeah we're we're just we're we're just we're doing

those tapes those do I don't get there those I have to find me because I have a

videoteca grand but I try to find them and make the transfer to

the Hight 8 to digital that is a digital. Well, no I don't know

to look to but well the idea is that this video because

even we put the lamp the of the high

and we and we we're with the light with the high

eight and in those we're some some pieces of

cab we're going to hear some cascos of the cabrown and I said like that's like it's on the 10 like yeah are the 10

yeah so on the night car and I did one of they heard yeah and one of

you know of they said they've been asercando a cabo I think that's they're coming

a car in serious yeah yeah let's let us let's let us

let's let's we're and in so and in this sound like

it's it's yeah and we're we we. We got him

to six and we're going to we're going to start us to prepare the cameras we're doing in the area of the second

piece of and we're going to be the pathio that's to the entrance to the so where you

then we're going to be to be there no, we're not we're just we're not we're just

we're just we're we're getting to be nothing we're we're we're like

we're we're like but But as well, we know much the attention, the Pintas, and right you're going to, why I'm going to yell at this? Is that at the moment of the most enducedons, and we're going to

about the house, the 400 years, and the hotel Nisa, I want to see how is the context mysteriouso of a property that's that's being used to becked. For that's important that you have to

all the lineaments, Paco. So, you have to be all the horizontes. Sure. Because if you're centras in one solo, you're going to get to

get to get to do things totally and it it's quite that's even

like we're we're we're to look the phantasma or the spirits of the house

of the tatoia no spirits or phantasas demoniac or an

alabance a demonia or a devil blah blah blah total that for us

the most we're more we're we're we're at the we're at the

we're at the those those three you know that system always we do we apply

and I'm going to the fact the effect surprise there's there's a tip

for those that want to want to you know when you know you

you know the you know you that you that you you're doing you're

you're doing a door and you know instead of you're saying like you know we're

we're the surprise if it's not it's like to come grab Or if you want to,

you have the door to photographia. Yeah. Yeah. The raffagas, not? The raffagas, exactly.

I remember one of of them of a camera. No, the moment I have here the man, no,

I'm trying to a Kodak of 35 millimeters. Yeah. The Kodak of 35 meters was

to get the rollo. For that me understand. We're talking of 90 and something. Then the

guy, he'd say a photo, he'd say, he'd have to do you to do that. Yeah,

clack, Rack, and the Flash, I had to Carrague, no, no,

no, no, no, don't get photos, because he was he was

making photos and we're seeing that someone and they're going. Well,

there you go. So, so, it's it's first, they're

on the cabo and that the cabo and that the caro and so they're

no, so we don't, the genet so, the genet so, the genetet we're

we're in this affion the charro black the charro the charro no

so we we said we're so we're so we're so if it's this is this

it's a appearance of a car yeah yeah you're yeah

and if so you and if it's no well you yeah it's it's level

seven car the guy the guy toby he's I'm so

we're just we're just we're just we're we're gonna yeah no gastes photography

he's I'm two photographs in my investigator and still

he still was that was When I'm saying that's something that's the same abandoned or very abandoned

has a lot echo. Demacial, no there's nothing. Exactly. And all the pieces are to hear of hear about

we're thinking we're fernetic we're not. With the affand to encounter something that the impetus

us got no I had 17 years and my partners had never had been even had been even

16, 17 years. So we're we're the fan of us we all we're

we're we're we're good good, so or evidently an

bit ignorant with the sense of that we're more of the hobby even though even was

founded the agency well no we're not we're we're just we're just we're saying we'reos

yeah so they're they're trying what they're exactly at the final he said you say

buta that's what that's the first investigation of camp and you encounter this

this is this this is this so normal padrissimo and and We're together, well, in the

in the total that we're we're doing, and in that's we're doing, and that's something that's

something because I'm doing it's a going to the space where we we were to get to get

that thing and it's a sombra and I mean, because it sombra and says

one of you know the appearance should be to be the level physical car

I'm you know you're not you know you're you know you know we

like a kind of a species of like if it was a like an impermeable and he began to get a little bit of the zapato and I said no we're we're we're saying we're

we're we're we're suggesting and we're just we're in the affand to want to it was one of the montag yeah

no my ventres they're saying what do you're saying what's no manches I said butta

but I I mean, my brother he threw the flash-aso in the car. Yeah, p. All the video. What on? What are you?

Here, here, no can't be. Joveness is dangerous. This is one. It's a private. Blah. He was a guy

of the montara. Yeah. But there you go. I'm with the why. Because the

Pintas. Oh, yeah. A be, this official, you know, what's the thing with the

panche people local. He said, he said, a bitch people local. I go,

oh, and where where it's the Poucant is that there's a very bad

I'm going to let you know I'm going and he said I'm going to the zone more urbanized and if

no I'm going to look no no it's not not very official no it so it's

so it's well it I'm okay official what on with those Pintas you know

you know you know you say well you know there's there said there's there said he

there there a man there there's here here at a here that's

grittando in his balcony and what he says in your ballcon and he's

everyone he's he's he's he's maybe loquita I

think because he's always and he grita protect

us Jesus Christ that yeah yeah I'm so okay I'm

well well she's she's a girl yeah yeah yeah

yeah she's yeah she's yeah I'm like and I

like and you you you're you know the people. You know

that grita every, no, it's like every week, every every week, but it's

a woman, and it's a woman, and he's a little to get to the sky, and he says,

and I know, the beastia and he says, you know, you, what you, you know,

if you're, if you're, fifted, the, the, the, the, if you're

, if you ask, imagineate, all this people, that's, like, like,

all the roo of the house of the Tia that Tanya that's the Tia and he's called Tanya

and he apart's she's affamated because he's abandoned and say and adder

that the she says that's all this and says I think the people see the

sogestion or sogestion or so they suggestion or so gestionan so I said I mean

he should have to have reason but so it's like that it's like that has

that has to be the no, so what? Sure, not Correteer

also? Well, yeah. Or, put it you in the dementia in the

that you could say, no, I'm of the people that

that know or simply that not, people that

not that there is back. 1997. Terminame we're

we're we're a house of Teatrona but is simply

a legend urban that's it. We're to look at another barrio of

another investigation no and there we did the investigation of the venue

of Venetino Garanza where there were some that was here in this

area of where we're we demoler in that scene

and there was a incident and there was like things

things different but that that that's we we

know we didn't because people had had about

this total that we're going to say, well, we're disanimed a little bit to the house to the Tia, I'm not too I'm very honest

because they said all. There were a moragene and there had people, before that were people,

there were people that said, we're going to look to the phantasm. Yes, too. But,

but that people, I think that also I thought, I'm not, and he was umable to the

yeah. But there I'm, I'm kept with the roo of the rations, Insist, 197. We've got

we've got to the SPR. Society is Aki-Cal for Research and we had to some point of communication even for service postal. In serious,

I'd say, there'd be invoes of postales like, of mail, of Mexico, Correos of Mexico like cartita, timbrecito,

to all? When if they'd when so they'd no, then they'd but you get a putt amygian

it's in America Caper no so you turn about two months to receive

the cabal which is the decinatory and the remitente other two months no more

so then I remember that in the last we've an report we've

we're just because the SPR you solicita that do you make reports of your investigations.

Every certain before to enter to even to get to even the Corre Electronica

which was a marvell to use the fax for example no fax

imagine for that that's the word not so the word is it was

it was chistoso because I was I made like a comment okay in that

in that we're one of the first I did the report we did it we did

the report we did we're we're making a specific of a thesis saying well

okay the legend urbana can be this alimentar by the narrative

of the people who don't have any idea of what is there but what curious

is that we're we're we're we're in in a roo

yeah reveled and we and we mandat and we send us and I

put it and at final we're we're we're we we're

we're this in 1999 9. There is I'm I made the card

well, we'll send us it's done you're looking places

we're to see inocino caranza that no is a great story of that

this scene but we we find we David alfar

sykeair is one of the great artes plastics artists plastics of

me he he did he did a he did a special to

caranza that for sure the day that they don't no

so demolied and they're going to gore but well we're going we're going we're like psychophonies

very little and more entering to the a cell to be a a cell of an area ohio

today you you're not 18 salas in a first was a solo cell of cinema

that cabian that were so 200 persons they were enormous they're enormous and they're

like like so they're so I remember that if that adventure

if we didn't we're in cinema so the so the cines are in

those so I'm think we know that we're we're we're we're

we're we've got we're put the palomitas so I'm talking at the

70 so to get to get to there's there's there's

there was in abandon but encapsulated in space and

that's so we we're much curiosity we we're we're

we're before they'd have some machinoles for ventilation and I remember the most strange or rarrow is to be

that the machines and start to work to the thing I'm that's I'm

I'm the Rangue at the Totoia at Rangue of the Reneene of Venustian

had been past like three months I'm exaggerate and I get

about the month the report Okay okay me get to the report

we're we're we're it's like a special supervisor when you're

those files and you start to mark your observations. See.

Look, your report is well, but this no, but this that's

that I'm not, but this that's not. In Europe also

is giving those pintas. And how? So, they're replicando.

They're are replicando. And they're so much, welcome in 1999. And

me put this is, this is important. Yes. We're to look information

and we're to do you want to to solicit that you're to look

information in your country because the ALE supposedly in the

reportes of the reports of various we're not more other agencies

in other places where they were they're they're

in the in the card well is that I'm in the book

in the book a book written with a machine to write

they were they're like examples of photographs of

those reports in other countries. And many of those were in Latin America.

So, they're to put an attention because it's the thing that's the arrival of

the new Antichrist. In 1999. 1999. And over all the first of the

new new, you're a cabron. The new single. So,

I mean, then so, well, the Casa La Tia Toia

no didn't nothing phantomorgic but had some had a

something had something. Fiat Even I doubted to express the

bigita the young the girl that was in the barcone in the

area I'm in the doubt to the I'm not I'm because you're in

all the time you're in a kind of you're in where you do you don't know

if you don't you're you're doing and I'm I'm to do something to do

so I'm so I'm so I'm don't put to total that the way that the way that he that he

he was he was I mean, I said, there was a I said, I said, I said, I said, no,

well, it was to be important. Yes, there's a commotion of different individuals that are

to say Oh, the life. Madres, I. I said, Madres, way,

what, what, pons to investigate. Let's say to come to get to the 97, we're

with a lot of a lot of doubts and we've said, okay, we've done a little

of something and that so so I'm in 98 97-98 Paco here in

where we we're the most part of the area the zone of the

suburb of here pardon there there had much pictures of

allus to 666 and there pintas like a

kind of a species of a So, but you do you know, as a pina

like it's put in the grapeteros like superartistic that are some very good. No, before they were like specifically

legendas for saying or things like. Well, there was a moment in that we said, Oye,

you can't of the graffiti that we've seen about the church? Fiatte. What,

the is there? There's here in a church of a church of some and they were in

one of the muros in a peg to the entry and I came with a cross

inverted and I said we're going to 1666 and we're we're saying we're saying well and

they're of those chavos that they're the time and then me says one of them way in my

colony also how you you're equalito equalito to be to be

okay or so this that this person then it's that's in serious yeah

let's let's to analyze and investigate if there other Pintas Wey, Paco, we,

we've found more of 80 pittas. So, like, you know, never you've got to

you're never to get to get us to where I go, yeah. See, what I'm

doing a one, I'm, I'm doing the refresh of that case, starting

for a house common and that's the house of the tetotoy. But that us, we've got

to be to get to this thing. Well, more of many, much,

pintas and allus to a cruce inverted 616666. That was a repent. And, of a sudden,

other types of letters that were called, well, I identified letters ES, C, and in-serrated in a circle or a F.

So, we said, even we get us to put the Cephs. Because we know we knew what

was a, but it was a S, a, an E, no, an S, a F,

and a, and a, and a, a, a, common, a zero encrado

in another zero. Okay. That's, that no one was now. So, we put us the cephos. The sephos

back and the sephos when we started to scabar to know what on with those pints,

who had plasmoded? POMU for what? In that then I remember that we're to get

in the theme of the Apocalypse Now, I'll say because. If no I remember

between the 97 and the 98, they were these guys the groupites of the false prophets in that

then I remember and I'm a record and I hope that not be that's not wrong no I think that was very in apogel of the Heaven Gates

Okay Heaven Gates is the pinch loco this that he made their essensias Passed on

the world spiritual Uh-huh So if they're phantasmas Yeah Soe auto-isiered

phantasas This is this So, well, that's auto and they're phantasmas. A collective of pro-NertCamp.

No, I'm not I'm, not I'm doing to anybody, but in that then those nerds were, not were

like today, the intelligent. Yeah, no, it was another concept. The concept of the NER, the guy

influted, borregito, all that. So, so this guy, he, he was to

do the pildura that he and his and his and were to come to other planet

and that were to get to to get in the Heli Bob in the comet you

do you see so I'm I'm going to I'm in these data and ohio

we're not we're doing a barrid of the more paintas and

particularly the paint they're in the churches oh no and that

is another thing we this is that's rare because usually usually the graffiti

so it's where he where he doesn't where he doesn't see

a part black there is but these graffities were very, very specifically in the entrances of the churches. And we said

we're going to get with these guys. We started to do a barridor, not only at the level colony, but in other colonies, and we started in all the city. When we got to the point of the center historic in the city of Mexico, in that

then I recall, I remember that much people, well, but I was, I assure we, we, we, we, we know, we We also had another line, another perspective of a book, okay, Paco. So,

it was a lot of the environment. Not is like any person that's coming in the center and you want to go to buy or what

or what you see. There we're we're looking at the churches and in the churches in the cathedral

there were two pintas. One the barraron in the instant and the like the other day or the

third day other day other way and the six hundred is like to give the message

to give the Exactly. So, then we're saying, no, man, these these are, those of the church also, those of the church also, we're doing. There we're in a little bit to the context religious, and we said, let's see

know what they're, to be, to see, say, they're all right, because it's vandalism, point, no? But the fact of that no, this, vall, you take, all the attention, because there are pintas, that can't get there for 10, 10 years, they're saying,

yeah, pintala, no? No, these caberns, or so, they'd, or so, they'd, borrown, and at the third day to put a one example that I did a third day

is because we're going to go to the two or three days and the we'll go and we're going to see.

So it was like a message it was like an like an an abyso something something.

Something not only that's when we're when we're in the Socal no see if you

you know the people that no record but there people like people like

really really and not were like the the courientes alternate

religiouses that are adhered to their religion and that they don't know there were

some ways that they put in cartons here you know yeah yeah yeah

yeah exactly exactly we're we're we're we're we're

we're going to know more to three or four canichos dentro of socalo in a in a

I remember that in a sabbado in a Saturday where we many people the

center historical always is a but that's there's there's a lot of

people and there a lot of a lot of some type of celebration religious also there

I don't remember what I'm because it was like the Virgin of Guadaloup or the

Semana Santa no no no it's man it was another thing that was a fiesta

religious there was there much people and we had more we we're we've

we've we've we've we're a caron and then the

extreme the Plaza of the Constitution, another. Trajan this thing, the letterer. The letterer

and he said, Vene the bestia. Fiatte, they're, they're in the beastia, acercate

to God, and I'm a other way to us, we're a salvation, take care the church is,

no, the beastie is in all the world. Yeah. And so we've

a chinga. Yeah, yeah, I see where I'm what I'm, and I'm, and

one, six, we're a six, like five, six. And we said, and we said, I said,

let me, come back. He said, what is the thing? And I gave a ticket of the

of the gate. Yeah. A bulletitito of this loco that's going to say,

how she was called, I don't I remember, he had a number even in alienigenes

on that one is an extreme loco, he was he was was looking to reclut

yeah. Heavens Skate I'll tell you how they I'm going to tell you

this past the history with this thing so that's that

it was it was Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nittis yeah

of actually there a great series in Netflix

that about the false prophets be it's good

well but well me gave a ticket for

there I don't have in the even so he was for that

time I'm I'm going to I'm going to first first of the Pintas we've been in the

house of Tia Tohue see how arm we're armes okay so we we're just

we're we're having phantasmas phantasmus phantasmogenes in the case of the tatoia

but us did this data the other other data is the other data is of

things allusive to the evisia and then the B and then

C R and then the report of the SPR with those

those data specific that about about the adventiment of of a bestia cab. So,

we've got 666 cross-invertida and in the context religious, then it does more than

other thing, to talk to the parents of that, even, I'm going to reveal

his novel because still unfortunately it's we're in life, but,

but we give many many data someone that's in the Caterral

Metropolitan of the of Mexico. Wow. Even he himself us took a

permit to investigate the catapum in the catacumas in the catacumas in the

years after us and it's to say every certain time comes

the vizier the antichrist the prophecy because one of many so we

took to live it in the in the ep in the pre-de in 1999

I do you do I do the date, and here I'd try the

on the idea of the thing for me we're going to register and document

of phenomena paranormal paranormal. The house of the tia to know those

there's all the time. We said, the house of all the people about it. But,

see how we get to that kind of that's that's that for us in a discernment

there we're saying no, we say, no, it's probably that for here,

no, but maybe, but look the chronology and things so, well,

I've the penes to this person that I'm going to do you

know about to make it in problems and go to a reservoir of the books incunables

when when I know about the books incunables I'm talking

about books that have been more of and are

books that are especially for people for persons that are experts

even they put in wands even there books that can like a

kind of a kind of a kind of a piece of a paco that's like they're like they're

like because they're so at the contact of even the grass of the

flanges no they tell a lot of well this boy

he's a book and they're reliquies and they're reliquas for so

they're they're they're they're he says let's see let's let's make

let's let's make with her Gwantle, he was looking with his lenders

and look it's this one of the one of the pints that's

in the house of the tatoia were in not they were

in, they were all the symbols strange rare there signatures

of demonios. Fience to where we didn't know we're not going to

talk to be no no this is this is what what

I go, of when we're to talk to this time and how are doing these little ramifications

that are getting to one or other to tar cabos but they're being being like the famous seyo Samudio?

The sales of the Reyes Salmon? I'm I'm in the that book that all was in Latin

honestly honestly this person this person well very good because we're just

we'd beams we'd beams we're No, well, obviously to me see you, but maybe I've said, well, this guy, there's a guy,

there's a guy, there's a guy, there's a guy, there's, no, but, but, but it's that we're trying

elements, me explain. Yeah. So, you know, is the evidence. Yeah, and I, when I asked,

this person, because we're we're just, we're talking to a cathedral, oh, yeah, but, this,

we're thinking we're talking, we're still we're talking we're saying we're saying we're we're talking

about some things that's that's trying in the iglesias. We wanted why I said

two, three days borrower a pint in the entrance to the cathedral to the

and the person that was let me a second he said a second he's a question and

I said you do that I mean it's clave that's not it's not going to say we're

we're saying we're going to get to let you know no no no no no and

also and they're they're honestly because if you you're saying you're going to

make to make to try to he, he's a incunable, we, we're saying,

no, mames, we, we, we're just we're in the bobe da secret of the catecheteral, we.

I go, but it's a bobeda got, they're in some books incunables, car,

no. So, yeah, yeah, for the experience of those books, you know,

mams, you know? Total, that I'm saying, look, these are signatures

of demonios. And if are written of the Rey Salomone, clavicles salemunical salemunical.

your question referring to these are demons of the clavicles salamonics Bael and Agares that have been with the case

of a position that we've investigated during the buskedom on Netflix in the series of my encounter

with the movie. Okay. Fience this is a point for all the people

that we're listening and the investigator all the time has been pieces

of the runpecases that's it's very difficult not to find

the coincidence of the fact it's even very difficult not to healen the events and it's for

so that the work of the investigator for the man is fascinating is going to these cabos

is impressive I mean because you never you imagine to get at that point and you

do you no I'm I'm no I'm I'm I'm no my Tia

and Tanya Cabro none no well there for all the people

that had the are those some of those these them put us because so they're in

those those things that's because of they're in some sallyos so they're they're

they're they're doing they cause in a little incommodity or so tra-and I mean

the lot of objects that you have I mean I'm near I'm caron thank you thank you

thank you thank you I mean I'm I'm going to I'm coming here close

of the center with the team that you know we pass for there,

where where, um, they're some some of those macabros and they're gonna be for the studio.

I'm, well, I see, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's that I'm a tremendous

phobia with a mucleco if you're, if you're very apprehensive in the sense, well,

you've experimented something, you know, you've been a last. Oh, so,

no is viable for just with the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the there's there out out that's that's

very credula. Not it's good to be very so because just magnificas

something that even has to have to imagine we're we're we're

we're we're the ticket of the bottom of the one of those one of those one of those

one of those invitations at a level because this way not they're

not more in the States this Marshall he did a

barragee of publicity and the way he started in the media in the media to get a car of the local evidently but

you saw the rostro of Marshall and you said this guy is this alienigena man. Well it's that he

had been to gain that that kind of people. So, so something something to have

done to have to have done his plans too much too tragical because they were many people

and there there's there's there's other locoes also that there's the psychopata

of Nexium or so all that type of people and this is a message

for your public that's that's to hear and that don't tapens

in the eyes the people like a local like Marshall

or like David Courish or like this also

the other the other abusive of the light the

world or the Nexium have a concordance in their form to manipulate to the people and they're

those manipulen those people that are supermently susceptible and I've said the fanatism is dangerous

so so then so putance there there put a much attention in that

because a person that be that you think that you can't you can't you be

like carne of canion if you're a You know, it's easy.

Putta, Manipulable, even to the gorro. And for so, lamentably, these malas stories of the type of this

Marshall with his wife, Bonnie, that they were to call like a name an alienigena,

well, they were to make a lot of people, to make sure to make sure that's too.

Well, we're not so long, this guy was so there's there were decent

there. There's people, for who knows, is the Davidian The sector was the Davidianos of Davidianos of Davy Courage.

And Debbie Courage, just still did all the video still more force. Yeah. So, they're fountasmas a hundreds of persons. So, so it's delicate, seniors. Tena much careful with that.

But, well, here we're just the concept sectarian combined with the concept ideologized. Sure. Ideologized in what sense? but the people that

the people that is the thing with this with all these all this what's the

how we're doing how we're we're doing we're we're to get us to get

a person and we we're we're that we're that we're not you're in your

channel no I'm my channel car there would have been because that investigation

that we did we And we interviewed to that, well, that's, that's, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, so I'm talking about that time,

97, 98, and almost 99. We got to one of my investors me says,

I got one, one, one that's that's that's, so, so,

so, the sefos. The Cepos. Okay, what you need, no, just,

no, just, just, just, we're, we're going to be what we

we have to question to ask him and all what you know you one you're in

the panorama of a house embrugated to get to know that the SPRT

Society Psychic for Research was was putting all his efforts

to know to know what on the attenium of the beastia the

Antichrist because there was much people in all the world that

was with this role you know the addenyment, the new antichrist

and we're to make a refresh what are the antichrists in the history many people about Napoleon,

for example Napoleon, Bona part Otros have done Yeah, also, another antichrist

others are a little more atras, more like Kaim, no, a concept

diluvian I think they they're so, So, well, are things very historic that we'd have to talk specifically of every character profoundly, and not

I'm going to talk here because if not we're going to go to do the podcast. Then I'm going to give the reference that we're going to let's say, okay? Well,

we've said in the history, have been these those. I think that a rey that I don't remember like,

Carlos, no, I don't know I don't remember. There was a symbolism of the Antichrist. So, then Okay, in chronology of

years, of what time to get to Napoleon, to get to Napoleon to tell and we're and we're

to do matematic pura to be at a level chronological every how much time?

Concorda with the last antichrist of the last I don't I remember

what was I don't know I don't know if I'm with my book no no no no

let this well there was an Antichrist before of

1999 9 and see, a level chronological, had concordance of every certain years. And we said, no,

it's a proximate the next. Yeah, so we're saying, we're saying, how do you? And, well,

addle, well, all what we said, this person erudita that, that took

the book incunable and us he was most to to the three there, and us

explained of the signatures of the demunios. And, if this quote

said, this quote, said, that every a certain time there was an

Antichrist because the Antichrist I was to arrasar with the massas in the

sense that I'm to change the conscience of the person and we

just we said we said we said we in a transfond more we're

we we went the document of the incunable we we didn't

we didn't take not no photos or that that

that this type of information is like the word that we're that we're talking classificated

is this and if it's going to and see, you have to have to have to have so then

we're so well, what we do we do we know what of the heaven gays

to this person and me this is one of the the locus that's doing the

uh his movement to the the conciency to retorser the individual

and could get to is part of it. It's part of the false messias me said he. And okay. And then it's real.

So, if there's a bit of the nascimento, if there's there, there's a nicemient of the bestia. And me says, well, no I know. He said, but the church is still preparing for you, too. How? We're saying, we, we're. We're saying

that they're prepared for an event historical that's a certain time. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, in that sense, I don't know, what? What? Literal, like,

so they're from a context that says, putta, boy, this I, this I, I was,

I was, I, pass for Malakias, that is one of the great prophets, well, yeah,

I was, like, things specific, of the, of the antichrist, but not so,

tan, tan, so, all that, all that I had documented one, and one

one thing is documentart to, for the office, ca, because you you say, if you're

getting in these lares, to be able to have to be the cause. No, no, no, it's talking to

the air and you are talking to the air and you don't, then you should be very careful with that.

What you are saying is exactly what I talked with Jordi and Martha. In

1999, we know, we know we're that's that's the beastia. And not

no, no, no, I'm you know, you know, you're the explosive

oh. Yeah, because Marta me said, but how can't let me talk about. We're talking about the

ostia that sangro. It was an other concept, it was an other investigation. But, but just

fienese how we get us to this point. I was I was going to plan to the places the

most embochated. But, but it was it came out because so these

times that you're in the language to say it and much many times with great platticas

like it so many these these these great platicas sell in this type of

things that you get to think well okay this no I've been in this time not I'm

because me was because I'm talking in the road of the ostea but in

this but in this because it has to be sure we're going to

because I don't find phantasm genisis in the house of the

Tia Toya but the house of the Tia me

I'm to I'm to look to the abeniment of the

bestia and what you're just So we said, then so, if it's going to pass.

If you're preparing the church, so there we're going to and we're we, we're, we know,

yeah, I can't say nothing, you know, I'm going to find what they've got to find what they're

much careful. Guarded the book, there's the door. Okay, thanks. So,

so I, you, I, you've got, but also that brought more doubt,

yeah, so, You know, you botan 800,000 questions. Like at the two months me call one

of the investors and I said I have one of those that's in the sect Cepo. Okay.

Let's to interview him. That interview brother, super scabroza we,

we put a point totally known by him, but that was away to all the

area from the agremated to the sefos and us were to be

who were those Cephos. We know us we're we know us so

we're so he started of a kind of a of a kind of I'm a

but I said a loggia is a loggia is a loggia a congregation of

and he me about people and you don't you think of

those no people so people so people very very very

very very I say I'm I'm really to talk

with you but I unfortunately u and he

He said, I went to that sect and I'm going to go to go to go to where,

but not they're not going to find not they're not not

you're what they did you do what they were some

promises those promises, the promises that this guy, in this

time, he was talking in the sacrifices of families that they were

like in their proof of of their like your initiation

like a like a a initiation so they're those who they're just they're they're

they're going to be the going to be the new king she's when we're

that cabron let me but wait a but a wait a wait for the end of

the church because in the center of the church because in this context

of the cross inverted and you're you're you're you're

you're that's this information is the that we don't to us

and if I'm able to say, I'm could say before the things

were masturbated. The information that we know to us is a

form to express about him. The workers not we don't we have

like that that other type of information is the because that

maybe is a or a person or the part maybe is one

of the artist most known so See? That type of information we don't

us do. To us just have to be able and you have to be able, and you have to do you know,

by the kind of a kind of a so, and then he said, he, that the primordial was, if you

are, if you are like you you're going to you're going to be able to this, venerate and tribut to

someone very, very very certain to you and with that you're like your insignia of

the Alta, well, the degree of the of the end of the mental

they're in these guys. 1,997 o'clock with that. Well, total that we've said

so on, then, so there's, if there's, if there's, if it's, it's, so,

are approximately six women, you, how? How? How, six women?

If, is it's prevening that's six women, how you're to do this? When I

me, I'm not I I was only. I was with another person that is powerful in the

grimy and that he's that they're so fared. I said and safados in what

sense? Safated in that's not, safados in that they're in what they're doing

and they're that they're not being conscious of all the he said he said he's not

they're not saying the mother and then the this movement is in all the world and this

particularly in Latin America we said we we're and has one of my

of my investigators tomand another no, of all. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

yes, no, we don't let us just with a graber in another, but only

with a interview. And that interview I showed to TVisa. Years after,

her man, you're talking, 197, 2006, wow. And I, I, no

Mient, no, Televisa has been the car. C, almost the,

the record that was, we were, we were, we were, with the song gonzonazzo,

because we'd try us the high-ocho and he was like with a gore with a gore and it's like like a sudden he was saying it's super rick

re-contra-nervios so I'm said one of the those that were like the major rango said let me

you're going to get and so between we're saying we're saying it's like it's

we're getting to get into the bobo and fortunately they've got this person that no didn't

no no he said nothing but it was a rank Alto, and the rank Alto, he said, yes,

they're located, and it's all the adventiment of the bestia, and it's in Mexico.

Wow. I said, no mames. And I said, but, but what, what is the thing that

they're saying that are, that are six women, or in what sense? Because the six

women, so, like, the six women are to do, or what on? Well,

yes, they're going to be the Antichisto. But, because six, because Because you have

They're being They're looking at Okay How? A-beckos In what So, No, yeah

They're They're They're They're They're They're They're They're

They're They're They're They're Yeah They're They're I'm

So, I'm So, So, this No is That's So, not we're

We're We're We're From this From This is This has A

Yeah, This is a Preparation Yeah, Yeah Yeah they're

years preparing this wow and how they're so I'm I'm saying

to ask what is the thing to be with the security that they're to be

a beastia car so it can be a man normal that you you're

that you're you're that's you're so I so I'm so I'm so I'm

so I'm so I'm there I'm there I'm there I'm I'm but I'm give me

the interview with this quater man with the more Alton that's

that's that's it's it's it's it's like like

with two or three people more and he's but all the other people

we're people and he's he's more information more information and I

said I need to me you know no no I'm we're

never in the life and exactly exactly yeah no we're we're

but all those those those data and we said we

we said but but it's when you start the rombe

a And you say, okay, do those Pintas that's, Cremem, that if not we've

clavoured in the thing, nor do you want to be ever had entered and raeoneed

or so. If we if we're said, we're so we're so we're well,

but yeah. Weba. No, the castle of the Totoia was a mytho, we don't

not. Sanz's about us. But the disserliment that we've we've been there and

there said that for something that's Paco. Oho, no in absolutely

nothing we're but if contribute to the investigation of the area of information

to the CPR and well in 1999 everyone was in the ambit of those

we know of the people in that the population in the general was in their was in

those who were in those that were evidently they were they were started

to resurgier there that that is where I do, well, okay, the church is

preparing how? All were questions total that's to start to resurgues

contrary to the cepos that was like the contrarested of these guys. These guys

started to give in the in the in the entrations in the churches.

Not only that also also also also there also exhumations

of the bodies. I mean, like it's like profaner tombs.

They're going to profaner tombs in this then this these guys try in a ritual

very cabron that they were doing those sefos. Corte A pardon then a

lot of the profession is corte a, you're going to because it's important because is the

part of the sefos of the guys that were clavals in the adveniment of the

bestia. And the other part that I think I that I'm in the

church because they were to get pinkas in different points of the city

and many many times those urbanized where they were like sectors very fiftiette

I know they're not they did in certain in sectors where there were for the

regular three or four churches and those and those zones were of feligreses for

so we diduching comes from because the church has the

Dato demographical of who is the church or the Pintas that were the other

contrapart that they did they were the people were other secta another secta

but it was a secta in contra of the Cepos Eloin or the the children

were more like Christianos it was a was a question was a Christianesque

so well well fiat how we how we said

because Why the Pintas in these zones? You start to figure out the why the churches can't be. And evidently the ones, where the Pintas of the Cephys began to be more,

like, more, this, more than the, well, in the entrances, well, as in the entrants in the entrants, they'd,

these guys, dispinted them of the churches, the of the Cepos, and the children of Elogim and they'd get them.

And that's if I can't because I remember perfectly what was the well, right I'll look a pruma

and well it was a cross normal it was a Christian was a cross and there

was a kind of a staria of six points like the staria David yeah

and in and in middle of all came the name of Christ

in Arameo in Arameo if me I remember perfect let me

let me let me I don't no I don't no I'm here, look. Here

is the there. There's there. Okay. I remember perfect, I mean

I made a refresh but of poca madre god. Look. The

Cepos always was always was so. This was the Pinta of the

Cepos. Okay. This was like a pint of the Cepus. and the other, the,

the other, the, the other, the, I'm going to be the chronological, of when we started when we did we know to know, because I don't do that I've had taken from the 90,

but in that moment we put us attention. And we started to look these pints and the, and the, the pintas of the sephos was usually this, it was this.

The cross, The cross inverted and the 666. In the Enverages of the church. Oh, with that. When we started

to figure out of what are in what are doing, for this I'm doing the incapy of the discernment scientific.

Not only you're not they're in the pintas in the entrances in the churches, okay, but why

in the entrances of the we've got to give to give to give them a connotation

because no in in any the pared. Point. Because, there are. And the

most those administrators of those they get and they did not of this pints of

266, two and in this moment they they were and they when they started

this new secta, that if we identified that was a different, it was

something, it was a Elohim. The children of Elohim. It was a similar. Okay. It was a cross,

the cross type of Jewish of David. But, but in that the cross, that's, pardon, right,

the star, David, then, this, this, graphic. This graphic. And now,

Amen. In Yes. No. Latin? In Judeo. Yeah.

It's the name of Christ in Judeo. To be, because then they're going to be the experts. Yes,

know. Well, it was something. This. This. Okay. So,

so, so it we investigated, it confirmed, we corroborate all, brother. So, we said,

a very, salient you know, and these guys started to make to make in the churches

catholicas also is something because you say, okay, is Jewish. The name that is that you put

is a Jew the star of David is a Jewish and the cross is Christian okay.

or so no, not is contra not not not punted

with the Catholic because in where they're to put the

things were in the things and they were when they were

to show the of the Hym that that

did that didn't that did say yeah they

they they're they they found they how how

so for that not so the the point in medieval, the champion was the man who put in a

battle in a arena. In an arena with another champion of another reigning. And to not agarars to madrasos in the war, they'd, they'd, every one's machin, their machin, and now they'd, they'd, put in the mother. So, in the context, they're saying, is that you

have their champions, too. The part that they don't want to that nasked the bestia. Okay. So, then we said, then they're going to get

or what on the well yeah there are specific in 1997 in 1999

that's in 99 where there many many profanations of

and they were also rob of fetos yeah we said no

if they did something for rituals well so I so so we

so we so we so we we don't we had something confabular to

get a to take a lot of this is the most of the most these these

champions or the children of them started to get to get to say

oh, well, no, we don't we're not we didn't of that

sects but we knew how they were they

plas the pictures in the their three the churches

then you saw so so pho and Elogim

but those propios of the iglesias out of the

church and they were in the elogh yeah those are the forces they're of

they're so they're so total that's it's like a camera

ungar and we called because they were to restarse for

media of messages and the sephos painted six

766 those Elogin pintas things elucin and you're

what on car it's dura not the battle for

the most in the city in Mexico in that in this time. Total

that everyone was alert in the sense of the people that I'm saying. And I'm

sending information reports with these guys. Oh, you pass to pass me a faxy and boom,

boom, and so then they're saying, is that is that came the attainment,

yeah came in the name, we say, we're for a question of

investigation and I know, no, no, no, wait, wait,

let's one thing is the investigation for the other is that is very emphatic

in busk where is a nasty I'm going to think conspinoical with the

SPR no do the SPR also the repr also they're in greats so I

wei and we we're just we're we're gonna we're we're we're

that's that's that you get more the time and says it's it's

you're more you're you're getting decifrar But you get to think to even

if it's a dangerous carron yeah, yeah, definitely because it's pretty much.

So, because we're about we're that you're about with people of the high power.

Well, yeah, of all the power acquisitive car, right? So I get to

think, well, if not we're not, we're getting in a problem. If

we're information of more information of the fact that that's that's not that's

that's not I was I was until the interview Yeah But this

that you did of the sectarian we don't send us we're because

that is when you start okay because so much there's such

insistence why why so I'm where where where

point point of part and point final of this

time 1999 Day not Not even But of those six Mugres That's the six women

In the area The sects of the Cephyr Even Three or four of them They were in Cremialas And only two There were

They were in Convincingement It's It's a Like a Nascimento Simultane Six Mugres

And Estrain the product they're They're They're How we enter How we're We're not

Because we're Because we're Immersos In this information Yeah, Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah And there was

People who's Very clavoured In this Tema People People who They're We're

We made Airmandad And so That's We're We didn't The Americaneses

We're We did Because they're Like More data Precisus Because Nased

In the North of The country. And that was those who were the

six women, and at the Cells they were the product. So I said what's he said,

I'm da, so he's not so, she nace. 24 years. Echanle.

Yes? Yes. Yeah, yeah, 24 years. Yeah. A be,

if we don't know, 99. Yeah, 24 years, yeah, exactly.

Qu, 24, 25, 67, 68, 28, 28, 28,

28, 28, 28, Well, boy, at the 15 yeah is to pilas

for if yeah they're to do imagine it. It's that in theory

what what's about about the anti-cristo is that is that

a person a person a person that makes that move masses or obviously

someone someone who someone that has this facility to

to send the image puritan of someone that is very good

that is very obviously I think who is someone political or well

religious. A leader. A leader. But, oh, thank you, the media social.

There's there's I'm going. Yeah. So, if you you put to analyze

with this, and is that all your public is to be done because this thing,

well, you know, they did, or they did it, I'm doing, and the investigation

of 1997 to 1999 and not it's already I said in the podcast of Jordy Marta but if you you put to analyze

how today the power that has the media where they can convert to any

person or any his friend in an influent yeah 24 years the bestia

there There is a, I don't, I say the name, but there's a YouTuber of the, of it, and precisely, me I remember of him, you know, you know, why?

For the age that you're doing. Well, to be, before, you know, I don't, I'm no, I'm affirmed nothing.

Exactly, exactly. I don't, no, I don't, I don't have, I don't have, no, I'm absolutely of nothing. You're in the

good point. Seniors, Seniors, Seniors. Paco and his servidor, we're, we're not

our rosters, our knowledge, our experiences, to be able to share them with all you see what difficult

that sometimes is to do do you do that's okay so but oh no to nobody and much less

the agency brother what you did in the point the agency not try to convince

to convince to nothing the agency mexican of a normal

you do the elements and the elements and the tools and that

you can not you not you're well that's I just you do you know no alluding

to any yeah but but well but so I mean this me to give this for the

time of the age the place the place of the person the fact the fact of

the last he gave a view of the view of a so I'm so

so if there exists something or so he gave in the second because

we're a person that was a person certain people. But in this point, you know,

to get them not the time not the time, not it's like, giving them a lot of people that people that they're

that's the YouTuber more more grand. Yes, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's,

that we're, that we're talking right, ohio, I'm not, I'm sure, I'm sure, it's like

a problem in the chronology of this. But much people, look at Samuio, he'll talk about him. And I said,

but why he? But right you're understanding the context historical that you're doing to the United, the influence that

today, the media, what I said, the radio social is, I go, I'll just for your criteria, for that you

think. Now, not is too what I'm saying Arias. It's a good analysis, Erman,

very well. Because just I was in these times, and I said, before to enter to

the anti-cristo, I said, I mean to mention in a point algy

where just for us for our form of the trincher of investigation if we

see the social good and malas because just we're talking the

thing of the eye with the manipulation yeah oh with the context

to say I I'm I think to these cabrones because I think

all no sir for so they don't not Okay, if you did that. A me took on the treacher of investigation.

But I'm put in the air because I go, oh, the reds social is. So, if you think that no that the television, I'm going to television, it was the cache of manipulation, and still still, eh, well, because I don't want to

not even to be a lot of politics, but the medios already are super-sadisical. So, so, So you see and mienten the

reds it's like the substitution but a but a level massive

so what was the television or in the social is equal or the

and especially because the people and doplicar the information total

so they see they're they they're they they're they

they're so million of they're there are those

Concepts Viral. Is it. Point. It can be a fallacy, but it's a because millions of people

do they're making the attention. Right, for example, your podcast is of quality, podcast of

other partners that are there on the Luisito Communica. Imagine the power that they

have in his hands, no explained? Yes. For so it's

important that the contraresta of all this is just to keep the

to quit the sesgo of credibility absolute question in all. Of that

it's so it's so here there's the exposition of the investigation we know

we've we've we've we're we're and we we're in this

time that we there there's there so David courage I'll

a lot of people there there also there also that there

people. We're talking, o'clock, a co- collective for those quattes is five people.

And there start. If it's a recommendation. You convince to the first, and the

first can't the second, and the second, and the two convincing to other

three. And there the piramide. And there came the piramide. There's the guy,

this, the guy, this, the guy, that's this, Rousarin. Ah, yes, this,

who's the guy, that's the way, that's painted, Cabo because you you're in Canada

when you Carlos Mewos That's way That way Vendia Venned a Vennie Aire And the day

that they put with a man That question that directly He said Weye, I don't I think

for this and for this or so no to answer That's Why? Why do you

what you believe? What you I think? What I think? Because is in

investigation That's the response of you That's all right Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah, and then it's because I'm not because I'm is that I'm not a credent, my equipment. We're not

investigators. Acquarensia, the investigation for the normal not is a creencia. It's investigation. So, they're just,

well, for that's, for that's all the scheme of the case. Not is a case. It was a

notic very sonated in 1997, 98, 99 of the adventiment of the new,

of the new beastia of the Antichisto. How I can give all these

bases with what I just I've got to talk about and it's a bit of a lot of a rompe

heads as how we start we're and that's what we're those investigators ohho

not giving credit to only a only a person let you see you get us

we're we're we're we're we're so so there

I'm so I I'm respect and all my admiration to

all my admiration to my respect because are those

investigators see what a reportage with a periodist of investigation that abarca all.

We know, we know the RETo still more canyone because we we're doing things

intangible so I see those my life is abode tremendous and so especially because

the investigations I mean the people today there are people that I know,

well, to do to you directly that you you're a investigator I don't

me catolog like a like an investigator. I'm a divulgator. But you're doing

investigation. Yes. It's part of there. But there are there's going to go out of Google and put

that tat tat tat tat, tat. Good point. Good point. No. So, we're talking about the process

historical that Samudor recorri at the actual of the time of the 1998, 99,

98, 99. And, oh, a bit, the book incunable that has to be with the pantaculos

that they've So I was Plasmased in a book absolutely religious incunable

that they were a little more than 200 years written in Latin

and they are those pantacul that you don't you know because they have

the attesoramient of those incunabes only they know that they don't know

that information but ohho insist we get we get we we get

about the question I can't nobody no any even a

periodist he went to ask to that's so. Wow. So, but why

we're not because much people are saying, how do you know, because you put you

do you do with a point? Puttas puttas with people, you know,

and in that process you topas with a plan, no, so you want to go to

get to to look to ask. A very, a example that I'm

this put this pretty cutation because is very controversial

the thing of the momias with the We send us a cordial Salud of the

Mr. Mausanne that is a periodist of a camp. A me ago, I said a little me said

a interview and what he said, okay, in no moment Mausan said that

were they were to other planet. Yes, that is a point importantissimo. I'm going

to pass that he is a periodist of investigation of the phenomenon anomal or not

identified. Before OVney or before contact extraterrestre but Mausan

not in the officeinita there to or just of the opinionators because even I did a podcast related to that my man no I said

Investigators of Campo versus Opinators of Escritory That's that's And here in

China is totally adverse is different and you you have to say and very

well the opinator going to go- not are in Google not no it

no it's not so so Mausan dedicated time, money,

relations publicas and go to the relations public as mausanne not are not

person so he so he will to be all the campos to interview

to all the people those implicated directly or indirectly and directly

will be to do do do and he no he no

he said in an interview the ADN Samud no is an

I don't know it's because not so they're in the ADN we're

not going so we're going to be the UNAM if they did a petition

of an analysis and the no did the context ohy this is

alienigena check if is alienigena for favor to say oh yeah

I need I need I need to know the analysis of this need the analysis

of the level epidermis of this what is point so we're doing

we're going to let's talk a little bit more an anecdote that I mean me a chica a senior

this me a agency and me he says he's he's alcoat again to the new

to the world what yeah yeah yeah sorry but it

let's to be I don't again I don't I don't I'm I don't

I'm I'm I'm with no no no no with all respect to all the

ethnic and the the languages that are, we're we're to learn them more than the pinch English. I don't

English. But, this, I'm, I'm really, I don't English, I'm about Totonaka

cabromso, Mexican. Well, this, then I was he said, then I'm, one of my

of my investigators is an interpreter and I said, I said, well, what, what did this woman?

And me he says, he wants to get to get to in the time of he said, he said,

he wants, he wants, he said, he's, no, You know, well, that not

that was a great thing to get to to get to know, but, but,

well, no, well, no, I'm going to talk about the political,

but is one of the president's stupid that has been in Mexico.

The history about his his man, Elie Fox. Well,

total that I said, no, no, so how we're going to get with a

how we're going, oh, come this this woman that says that

comes, no. Total me is that is that, I don't see if is about

coeriently or in plan, if you need to have to have something, he said

to say, then you know, then you're you're you're talking with you, you're saying, yeah,

we know, we're, we're, we're, it was, I'd be, I'd say, well,

and no, then we, well, and we, no, so, fiatte, we,

in the sense, in the sense of what, so, so, what we're saying,

is, is a so, yeah, but always with the respect

and of a and then she said he's he's some some

some some things I'm I'm say I'm know

I'm think that they're and how we're how we

know of course and I did me sure no he

he got a with photophia with photographs of

photographs of the NASA and he said I'm I'm marked

the like a kind like a kind of a of Ketzalkoatl in Venus. And I said, I began to see

to see the markage of the figure and you say, well, if you're encountered a parade, dolea, if you can't, you can't find. But, they're stilled by someone inside of the NASA. So, the senior,

you know, the NASA, to solicit those, that, that examen or that analysis. Yeah. And, and it was the the name of this person who I'm going to

say we're going to say we're going to we're and exist that sir. And we're when we

said we're a little to be a okay so we're we're doing the dog carbo no

no, no no, oh with all respect but we're we're saying no. But this

we're just that's a so that yeah and stay and he's in active in the NASA

and he he had kind of in the photographs that no not they did that

he no no, it's because the condition was that we had to have with Peña

Neto, something that no, no, we'd say, no. Yeah, we're saying,

no, but ta, Tui, and we're no. So, no. With another. With him,

no. Total that, this, well, we've been the photographs, Paco, there was

a synchronia of the paridolia with a significado star, for so to do you see it. And if

saw the serpent emplumada, and this, and the quote this that was, he, sealed by the nase, in serious, so we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we're, we're, we're, and we're, is, uh, ista, uh, ista, it's, uh, ista, it's,

when we came, we just, we just, for the minute, this, well, this boy, no, the way, no, he's, he's, he said, a-oh, no? And, he'll, and his, his photographias, I think the woman also

had a contact or something that had been got to have got to get a but I'm

an analysis of that parodolia and effectively in the resum of the diagnosis

well a kind of a question said that said that she said that

was the form was very strange that was a serpent emplomated

so the sheena said is that will come to come to

I'm talking of this in 2000 2013 no 2013 14 15 2015

2015 more well we're we're we're going to because you're going to cuter this of the

UNAM because yes the maximum house of studios of respect but

but also they're they're saying when they're so we say we're

we're saying honest and first they're they're they're And then they say,

no. And then they're saying that no, I don't I'm

remember. This day we received a catedratica of archeology

of the UNAM. And between you started to talk.

I don't know in the person, but I'm my interpreter and I

said, wait, even I'm even we're we're not we're

oh, wait, wait, see how they're how's how they're saying,

I'm to see what on what's what's he's he's he's talking

he's he's he's and that he's that's what I'm don't see

but but but the master he's saying that she yeah

I'm a ching a man how much so so I'm so so I'm

let't in the plattica way and tell you you know you're you know

you're you well well well well well this

we did we did the card to the catatatatria because if you

know you so. Well, total that they started like to do synchronia of and he said and he said

and he said, Accompanion us and us gave to an area where they had the resguard of pieces pre-Hispatic and all of us

I was to Katzarkoatl so I was like for what you can't do this a woman that comes of a part of

the United that I'm going to say to talk about to come and he's showing pieces

and maybe he called well. Beto Zabel and I said what's saying what's saying?

Well, it's saying the master. And yeah, I see the photography. And she has a form extremely similar

to Ketzel that's a that's fascinating to the catedratica. I go, no, Mamey.

Net? Yeah. Then then we're not we're not. He said, no, at a less

then he came up. Okay. Total that we're back to the hotel of this

senior us does all the grace and no see the master

me will help to find to get a and I'm and I'm intervening

and I'm and I said and I don't get to nothing because I

in an initial I disestime in ching because somebody they came

and you say that in Benos was to getz quote and that he was

to go and he to go to you're you I mean, the same example that I do of the house of the Tia Toña,

well. One thing to give to another. But I, I saw, I saw, I was an cathedral to accept what you're to put into this signora. Impression.

I mean, that maestro, he could have said, yes, sir, no, a bit, me, of this area is to the faculty of psychology. Yes,

yeah, and there are some doctors, no, I mean, I'm, to say, I mean, you put to think so, I'd say, so I'd say,

well, I'd say, well, I'd say, no, I'd say, no, I'd say, much thanks with permission

on this but no, it was totally the contrary.

It's abri- and apart said she in the translation that

me did it I'm interpreted that was that was in the

thing boy this what? No? So so, well

are things that are and why allude this theme because

I don't do you do that I don't do you don't know with the council

to say yes, I received a person that I'm a photographies of

a lot obvious, no, clear. And I said, if they say they're

saying, oh, because if he did official, they did an examines in tal,

and and all and various universities. But when you enter to a plan

mediatical, I, I'm said, in the community scientific then the

community and it is respectable, but always when, so because no,

he said, oh, you know, you know, we did see, we're we're

we're in the same, we've got the thing, that's severing the university, me explained,

the university only about the exam scientific, point, no more. But, no, that part,

I mean, we've seen, we've seen, to the long of the history, when these great corporations,

companies, private, or in all the places of government, when they're like,

something, they're valosisisism like, okay, yeah, I'm going, and I'm going. We're going

so, we're going to we're going. Yeah, there's a there's a real life that the people

will, I'm going to capture. I think that the men's of the black,

he was limited to the United. No. Well, there's a person in Oaxaca,

the people yeah, I know to know the doc that has been with us

and he has been with a a man who live in a rancho he was a

experience a sumamente and that the day the day the next they're in his house

so that is a chapter that is a coming in the evidence yeah yeah you know

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah see yeah let me

you go to you to be to be to come the

those were like an area specific not like well

you put a in context of the movie, because

to that they're to inco incocter evidences and occulted all, totally

incautar evidence. Yeah, the science fiction that you're in the mind,

well, it's not not so not they're in the light in the light with the light of

so. So, so, in the 47 surgiener, if no I'm

recall, 47, surgiered the umres of the to incauter all the evidence possible of a contact of this atrester.

And that's what is what is also the role of why such a molestia, oh, total, so, he passed to a rancher, he passed to, no-se-kian, he passed to persons totally,

well, that, even even the story, I was with, when when I was, when I was, when I was about the rancho, the rancher,

ca, no, I know that were those, those things, you know,

and then if not had the government, but I could be sure that would have been

to be something for some for the grand that's something, I said,

oh, I'm fiches lamines, no, but who did, who did

so, who did did all, who was the government of the United

then. So, so, so, and, oh, the hermetism much

of many times not it's because it always it's it's where we're

we're recadable information I'm going to you know I've said my kreisim

Arias the agents the people are the antithes of the men we're

we've got we're we've got us we're we're this is an example we just

we've just to mentionar it's something that maybe said

but not there was all a context well they know

Tremendor Thank you Oye, de plan me impression much your job, Samudio really

it's a work that's practically your life and we have been since you 17, 16

years, 16 years imagineate the passion for the fact of the fact the doubt

that you had you had seen since very young is it's impressive

people I know I know I know Well, that question of to look the truth or to

say, let's the response to many things. And that's not bad. The fact, also, the

also does also help the context, to not enfraskarns, to not to be fanaticos

of something, and that also, I've said, but also in a certain level, not they're

not even, because the fact of what we talk about, met to places to where not

always to always to be the security, to do the things

but impressive. Amudio, oh, before to finalize the chapter, my man, no, I'm want to get

with the way to get to me talk about to one of the one of those that you have over. Ah,

of, oh, if us will get to get to the time like. So, like,

so much. Well, a grand rasasos for that know, uh, right,

I'm going to get to be a object, let me to put a rapidissimo here. No,

no, don't you don't do this moment for the people, well, if

no has done your like not has subscribed to the channel and it's

these moments it's rapid no you don't you don't

more to be to be part of the family extra normal

yeah has this this marioneta with me if you

want to not where where camera or there there's

there there there that there that yeah there

well so there so there has there elements

basic of information of the marionita of Bermania. First we get here to the

direction of the agency and we're saying this is maldito no I want to

my house, I can't with you and we and we we're okay

and I in the first we said no we don't we don't no no you're

not you're not you do you do I'm I'm I'm this thing that I don't

desacern me of my family, I mean my tatar-a-a-vuel I had and socessively I'm hered after that

came in my hands but I get to my hands and then I don't want to have this

and why because I think it's very beautiful I don't you know not you

not you're not you like the man like you have you just not you're seeing a manic

or something you're I'm saying even even of collection because if it's of Birmania, the marionette.

So, then if you're what it's more, he's not, no, no, is that. Only give me

a context of the why, this maldita, a point. Maldita, in what is the maldition that's a

turn to the mucke? It's a marionita. Well, it's a marioneta. Why?

My abuel to do it a, a man, well, no, my

abel, his tatar his abelowel, he bought a brother and Bermania. And that

brother he said that in the moment that I'm to give a favor, but you're going to

to pay something. And that supposedly the that rompe the, the the cadena

of the I'm his abel of this child. Okay. And there were all

the maldiction. Because you not complied with her part?

Exactly, that was like a A special Intercamio To say You tributas something The image or The marionetta

You do What you need But if no You do you You're going to To start to begin This not

Pedir You're going To be For me To get through Of things Funest So I said

Okay Someone has Someone has Mured For this And A Tia Mourio

Mourio Mourio Maroons a woman he gave something a little something

of a good and then all the people that even even they don't with the

marionetta they're they're seeing they're okay I'm not you're not I'm

I don't I don't I'm even I'm even I even I'm even I'm even I'm

I'm going to go to get like I'm so I'm so so so

so Only, I you, I, I want to leave and for favor, I don't want to know

more of the thing, me, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

I've tried to to deser me to get it, and I'm you can't, then you, you know,

so you're, so you know, so you're, you know, is that you see, see, you see,

so you see, see, so be that they can't control these things. I said, I mean,

I'm, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, receive, for favor,

yes or no? And I did the desperation. I said, okay, but

give more data. I said, I said, Chochie, wey. I'm going to think,

I'm going to think, yeah, yeah, I said, but, but, let me,

let me, let me, a little of the, of the things that you think you,

that you think you think you think they are, that they're they're they're

they've of this object. And, sir, Samodio, no that

they've that object is present in dreams one you can see in a reflection of a

one starts to imagine what in the nada so his

rostro starts in the mind of one and I don't

want I don't do with what he did my

my abel and he did you don't you and

your father so my father also didn't and

he And he said, okay, there's where you're going to you're going to who's the analysis of who you're a person very, very affected. It was a person

that was in desperation absolute, in stress absolute when it was in his hands, it was he had marred with a kind of a kind of a

kind of and every time that I was me, it was me, it wasercabed and aghachable and I gotchable so,

the Okay, no I didn't want to be. No, I wanted to see,

then I said, okay, a reserve of that we do we do we have an analysis

more but the object is the object X, but the that I

interest is the individual. So I wanted to make a retunion of the

individual for that me pletka more things, what is what had

passed, like the the tia that's died, like the the she's

the the Tia he's going to do a hilar, just to like the case that

we've seen a lot, how it's to hila a person that a raise

to have a object like a marioneta can signific a maldition

in your family so no not not he didn't

and he left the marionita and even I was with one of my investigators

and he said well it's so it's be an old I

said said an tigua, but well, now so now so I'm like a auspicy of objects maldits,

I said, well, yeah, one more, I said, one more. One more to the

collection. And I remember that I was not was in that niche, that I

put it. He kept? It was very good. It was super

well. It's he per die to the little to my cuneadadad so.

Pardon, but is that I said where I put, where I put it much time

out of it was too time with with the little roll. I don't

I've experimented absolutely nothing but but it has passed

something something very curious Paco there there there's

three people did this marionette and these three

people me redetall very very very pesated a

really a with this marion and I did

and I didn't I don't let's I'm simply I just had the I think it's and every way

it's more they're more people who didn't have nothing to this thing okay there's a

other chiquel and things so so then I'm the attention to let's call the attention my job

and it's it's a pretty and that person that I swaned with the manita

he gotro she gotro and took and I try yeah and I'm almost I said

with the with the carita me I guess you And I mean, I also

I'm also And yeah But X Cosa Like in the Semana and media I'm saying

No How do you Toke that Cause that I can't I can't I can't You know

You're gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna No, I'm gonna Well, Tronamos For that

For the Marionette Because Wow I don't That's the Wow That's very

Good That's one That's one That's one of One of my Sermannes that

he came too he was a binton oh, it's very good

and she I'm my son with a poor that's okay and you

do you do right that's one but here I'm

easy a almost no well I look I'm

I'm I'm I'm you don't you don't you

don't protection in my mind scientific but I do you can

if you don't don't you don't don't you don't thank No, brook.

I can't. I don't know. The only that's what I mean, to say, to be, a bit more than those,

but I'm, it's not that I'm going to explain, because if there are because if there are

energy, sumament strange. Now, it's a person, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, with an expert, antiquario,

a, my, and if me said, if it's an, if it's an, a marioneta

of Birmia, boy, I said the representation of this is like a kind of a it's like a it's like a

jinn yeah it's like it's like it's like like how much he's like like how much like what cost

no you yeah pardon me but I yeah I think a moment that I said

I think I don't no no no it has no no it's like to say the story

that you I've to say and apart it's very but because the vestiment the need

all this very cultural The antiquarian me said is an original is an variety of Bermania

represent a a species of Dijin in that culture and this and well is what is

what you and I said me said I'm gonna I'm I'm I said let me

cotisar to be in what they have to know more or less of what time

so this she has to have been 50 years maximum me did yeah I said

50 50 years, I go, but, I mean they said, I'm doing that they've

done a dad-a- boy, this is talking about the third generation of the

line family, way. So I've had been almost to have been, yeah,

let me dattarla because I had a o'clock, well, you know, for the

etchura, for, for all the context, yes, by the world, for the

chura, for all the context of design, the, the boardado, so those these,

they can count what he said, what is that is that is that very good good at the

and it's how they call in this thing, that's to manipulate those. But he says,

these, these, they're not, so no, no, it's like the man, no more,

they're just just a moly. He said, it's very very good and the things, it's,

it's, it's, let me, let me, let me, get her, let me, got,

let me, get, it, it's a a color maybe rare, uh,

yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, I don't, you know, and I'm

saying that you're going to get to get to get to get to be, yeah. Well, no, the truth is that

I, I mean, I said, well, the strange is that I'm with her,

you know, but they have to have a contact. Yeah. I'm honestly, that is the

only confirmation that I'm the thing, I'm made much curiosity that has said,

that is represented a jean a genie a demonio a chiquio like a yeah that he

that he he was so I'm so the context historical of the person that he came

and me he's that you you know you get something and you have to

get to something you know you're to you go you're

to you don't and the other people or short

subsequent to this note historic I'm three three persons in different visits

chronological and talk the marionita and suen with the marionite okay yeah

at a level I I'm going to talk at a level unilical

it's very probably that not it's specifically a

spirit or not we know but the object the object is

cargated and made for that what is the difference between an object maldito

and an object that's that's for a maldition one one thing is something

that's made with the image and it what it represents a

genie and it and they see here so here right if you

do you do you want right right to I'm to

turn to you're like the deluc of the

detail of all, because it's a very very good it's a artisania incredible. The level

of detail is the detail of their vestiment is a bit more the restiment is the restive. So the thing I said,

I said, I said, I mean, it's just I said, well, if you go back, then I imagine that's going to

another lana, no. I don't, I've obtained any evidence, but if you cost you more

than $1,000, well, I said, I'm sure that yes. then this yeah no I've

got to contact and list yeah the time the three people who were the manned

they're not they're more things more in the afferate and more in the need of

they're saying a bit because is an analysis how you you you're

you're like the you know the need to need something

and not to okay okay so you go to the

remembrance of the leech historical and now how

how an object if can be able to maldito or an object can consider with a cargeneer

that can disequilibrary the dreams is that evidently should have something that at

a level electromagnetic you generate maybe a fixation for the object to be a

level scientific to it would be so so so. So the

only that we have in si is the legend in the sense of the

person that me it has but something does it of an object

that could be valuable so I'm the truth is that I don't know I'm in the fact

it's that I'm see with the perspective of yeah for me this I have in

house I got or I'm I put in the niche and the I call

I got there and it's so I'm I've said the only confirmations

that I did was just of the person that not were not emphatis in the

thing of the I had out and even I even I don't know

I'm in here in the back and I'm like it like I'm like I'm like that

oh my yeah yeah yeah I'm yeah I'm I said

I'm but but I never never I never I'm like it

I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm I'm gonna I'm

at some you're gonna but I'm yeah but I'm but I'm but I'm but I'm

No, no, no, no, no, no, nothing, no, nothing. Nothing, more passed a manor of other people, that, perhaps possibly, are susceptible, and if they've seen with the marionette. Okay. Debe tenor something, now, how is it, or how it's realisa, or how, for that you understand a little of the people, the because of the objects if arraggian energies. It's like, the example of my anillo, my anillo,

for me is an object amuleto for me not I feel a question but I

have to a certain point a security of this anew that I protect me

protect maybe counter energies very very or energies

very nefast this this anio for me because me

because me my father after I'm yeah it's impressive

this this this an thing it means it Yeah. So, so I

when tracienda, this anil has a cargues that I did the intention to that object. So this

this is a man will be to be possibly to another investigator of my family that's dedicated to this,

that same intention and that same not creencia because I want to say the creencia because

faith, not because you're remitting to the own own more than that's intention

now. Now, now, with based these objects well, the narrative of the type that me

came to leave me said, my abelowel he bought a mania, cao. In Bermania, cao. And this broco

he said, he was that was a piece of a power. Imagine that information of a,

of the for si is to be in other place, in other place, in other

culture, and he gets a Mexican and he says, give me an amulet that

I do this of power. The proper Abuel, the Tatar Abel of this boy that

he that he he that he did that intention to that object.

So he is a cargando with the intention that has in the object

that that he he he had to and he

he and he he he and he got of the generation

in generation erred the man so imagine all the intention

that took the tatarabweil of this quate and all the families that were or vio

the object then they created a force so so add to add the

primary the the guy that he he he did the the second

the he was with his rogues and the that he he

he got three generations to get to where I

went to where I where I think that's obstacleize with us

in that you can't in the man who says no, you're a manned that can

cost to cost a lana and me will be to be able to do the intention no I

do the intention no I do the force and and then you can't do you don't do anything

scientific yeah oh yeah oh yeah excuse to you don't but one in the first

in the first interview mentioned some words that people did and not they

resuuen't at So, the Who is the Ceptico, I or was an investigator, you're going to

protect. Yeah, to me, as the demons, yes, like one, or the

energies, or the people, if it was, you know, that was that was that? Yeah,

because you, you, you're, you're to say, who you're to say,

who's, that I'm, there me, I'm desequilibro, who's, he said, Cepriel, so,

me, they're they're to, they're I mean, when the first impression of the little bit of my eyes, when I said the question,

who is Patre Filocque, which is a question, and me, and me, see, me, and see, and she's, being,

of her, and she's, and then, so I said, I said, all what is the thing is, so,

so, so disappeared, so, and so disavere, my madres, be in the car, no?

But, but addlele, oh, oh, if, if, common has

evidence when you talk about the evidence is that they're

in Pachau see they're your new your youth your

adult is all all all so so those

they know if a spirit common it now

imagine to a demon to tell you know

your lives past so so so so so

what is what is what he did he

did in in that you know, he said, and when I'm a little bit to look at the

little bit of the chavita this and says, me care being, me says that all that you had been

about your camera, we're not we're not we're doing. That's, that phrase, eh?

I know, they're that I'm, I'm just, I'm going to, and I'm to see them to the

eyes, and get to the flashback to that then then, then I, then I was to somarm

to my camera, What happened? Right, right that I'll talk, I'll tell you, I'll talk about more light.

What happened? Well, effectively, this, the new had those terrors nocturns posterior to

the house where I had four years of age, that I had been about, that's all,

but those are rages in my ser, in my psychis. So, so this being,

he used all, and I have to be read, no, this guy is creient,

this is zero faith, even not believe in God Tapa Papa

ah he you're you're that he found in me the

flaqueza that I had four years a talon of acryles and what is what

he did so he he took and why he he took he and I

also I'm like the question well and how why

me he said because it was because you're you're you're

you're expulsar. Yeah. For that's impressive. I mean, so you see like your

enemy. Yeah. Impresionate because the pattern that's I mean, I don't know

the businesses to the dramatization. Even I remember the movie, Peneske's that's

the exorcist of the Papa. Uh, that, like, like a person

religious, that's over with me, the demons not are so the demons, not are some people

of the perritos of satanas. Those are their entities sumamently intelligent,

is supermently pacientes experts in the art of the study of to be your debility so there

will be a point where it's going to do you want to it's it's

it's very very well alluded to your your logic because you're talking just of the

manipulation and we're we're saying we're in context that that me that

in possession of that person then manipulow my my my but he was up how

to do you, I don't know me did you know, not it was it was so see how it was a message so it's a message

so free and so precise if we can't analyze how he said I said I've said I've said I'm saying

could do this I can do do you do what you do you do you want the possibilities are infinite

but in that moment when me said all that everything that you were we

were we were we your camera, wey. So, see the intention of the

oration. The same happens with the intention of the objects.

Maybe the brother that he prepared with a object of to be to have

done to be. This way is a genie of the desire. But if you do you

you need you have to pay. If you not you you're to pay you you're going

to be you're to have said. And the that has to that have to that's

the is the Abuelo of this quater Yeah That's the that's the

He's the Abel that's the object So, so all about to base

an intention because I'm I mean I would have said anything me had

said I've said me had grunied or even even me ever me have

spooked or vomitado or it's simply a It's

it's and it's a agress simple exactly but desequilibrill, car.

Exactly. And that's what said, Cepreel you're disequilibrate. If you don't they want to

possessing, I don't say, I'm saying, no, they're simply like that because

me make more but, but, but yeah, because evidently my mind

he's a other way, I'm just like, yeah. Like the mind of all those

who are watching and you're not sullen with the titere, and if

If you swenen in the comments No, yeah that's those who those who them do a cosita

Tremendos Amudio yeah, that's that tremendous your job, man for those who's

for those that Rompen this Romp this is this this Romp in serious Yeah, but even

even at the people here the staff they maintain like a distance but well no those

culpo but one tremendous tremendous platic and we just we can't

tell you and repeat what we comment about in an initial is a

we're in a event quite important in the work of the work of Antonio Samudio and

we'll mention about to be present in a very investigation paranormal no see

my friends if you want you want you want we're always we're an event that's

a tour insolito we've we've seven years and the next the next September

we have a first time we're a tour insolito of the house of 400 years that no

we've called this time. I'm I'm going to the next we're going to talk about

on the next we're going to talk about the two cases that we've investigated today in the tour

insolito the house the 400 years the 30 of September and the 28

of October that night is special because we're going to do a mini conference

just what we're just what we're a mini-platica of the cases we're going to

do the tour insolito the 7th anniversary Hotel Nisa the hotel Nisa

because not just to give us an adeleant to your people, go?

Then we then we do we know we know we we're so we're so

so we're it's a so it's it's a man we're about two hours me

hotel Nisa that is the hotel Nisa an old mezom that has

a property and in that property and in this meson well it's it's

for what for what that was, and other, but it was in a time very chaotic

of the center historical, where there's many that we and then

there was an incendio where a a person of adult and two

well that's a point of the hotel Nisa because years after when we we found

and we're trying like two spirits and interact interactuan between them or so no is a psychophonia

of the voice of a spirit is a spirit and that's other spirit and that's

another spirit we said ah that's good investigation because not it's a question

of that you listen the voice and yeah no it's the the the

the one spirit to another spirit not Yes, yes, yes. To see a other spirit. And the other spirit and the other spirit

and he says. We'll have to a level of communication between two entities. And what's possibly because they're in different spaces of the

place. But possibly not even to even to see them. Wow. So imagine two voices and

is, and make a reference to a person adult a major and a new. Family, no can't

perversel. 28 of October. Twenty-eight of October. Tour insolito. like in the link, I mean the

direct to the description with the reds of the radio superment recommendable it's a

good opportunity for those those those amants of the paranormal that in your

moment they're in a very investigation is a moment family

really very recommended thank so thank you thank so much

so we're that we're talking about we're saying if you look

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Thank you. Thank you. Family, thanks to all those who got on to the final. I'm

very much because you know I appreciate to do more to the end of the video.

De really, I was to pass to the Reyes Antonio Samudio and

you and you we're we're coming in a new chapter.

Passen a bonito until the next. Bye.