EXTRA ANORMAL - 121 | Mi liberación de un trabajo de BRUJERÍA, EXPERIENCIA DE PACO ARÍAS

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

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do you I'm a minute and you do you do you do you I'm

I'm remember that's and then we're to talk and my tautoreer and my

tia that was she sounded with who you talked the

the the detail was that I had started things travesura

that that regularly not and and it because in my

this batto me said hey So, to be, recuento. Lerick, you, oras for you? Oran for me. Ours for you.

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that's what he said, that's creasing. And no, the only that we don't get, If not he back with medication I mean

it's a car but only so so that's weird Oscar fift

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not over my over I'm I and the pastor so

because it's his his he's the pastor and the he's

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where there there's there's where she's where he's where he's put here above of the

playera way no mames I'mmes I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm

like I like if if you took a tumor so way so mow so I'm so

and it's where they're no is that has to ingerial the you need to ingerial

and in the first Cucerada I'm to try to try I'm I'm

I'm I'm are of the acids that regularly are in the silences no olive

of olive virgin this orado and it's where I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna

I'm gonna I'm gonna a lot of you was in the moment I was and I'm and I'm my

my wife me said me said that I'm said that I'm put like a little aggressive that I'm

I'm agarable and I didn't I mean I was like that I'm no me I'm

I don't know, I remember, when expulsed that, the, that's, the, that's, I mean,

it was, I don't know, so, if I did it, a mother, like, of this time, boy,

so, it was in the 2015, boy. Well, it's not much, relatively,

it, it, it, but, oh, so, was, it was,

it was, it was, it was, you're, you're, the, part of, the,

malestard physical, but the ball, was, way. The I could

I'd talk with my man, but but the thing is that the medicine

no more my say that I'm I'm saying because then there things that you

make things that you have been in a state to that I'm I mean physically

you say you're not not you not you could do you not

you could do you but there all the time that all the time it's like it depends much

the work of there are there there there there are jobs that are to eliminate you

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They were And then I'm They were To get And then is to do you. There's a way. There's a

first that they did a person of my family that's like I'm like like 10 years with that time and so

it's going to little a little, a little, that those are those those, those,

those, those are the problems economic, so it's a little more demorado because

it's not that it doesn't because the person that he wants to be to see

the person to suffer or so they enjoy so that they're so

then this last was murder yeah way. No, mamma. Yeah,

it's all it's too very very very per way. Necessito them.

For me the family is very important but when the family the same family so much yeah with the

family nuclear, I don't know yeah there's a limit exactly you can you can

you can't you know I don't I don't consider family Hello Hello,

to be welcome to a episode more of podcast Extra Normal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. This occasion I'm very content because it's a good rato

that I'd and played with a little friend Oscar, how you're doing Thank you thank you for the invitation a little

nervous, no see what what's going to do you no manches Oscar, what I'm sure to have you

in the studio the really is we've we've been in a previa very good

and I would have been to start to grab from but but well

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with this night of terror oh you Oscar before to start with the family

well extra normal presentate how you can how you can find in red

social to what you do you I'm what I social Oscar Gerber

That's all Facebook, Instagram TikTok Metroflot as a rato there's a lot there's all all what they

are there Oscar Herbert and then and what I do I'm a great question to all

at all the best because in the music I've I've been a rato

yeah set down there from there from six and

regularly I'm I'm I'm work on construction perfect well

much thanks, Oscar. We're going to start with this night, we've got to

you try you try you're very good good reports. So, so I'm so I'm so I'm excited

to hear too many some of the same family of the podcast has made the honor to invite me

because the very content that I'm very contento that I'm part and we're going to start on this night

Oscar? We're doing you? A bit bit of yeah, lebesone, lebesone. And what

was the experience that you you convinced of that the phenomenon exists? It's a

long time we've got to anticipate to that I'm going to talk about I'm at the no time so I'm

so there's one once no regular when I'm when I'm have succeeded this type of things

as I mentioned before to start before I'm like to find the logic in the sense of the

things but there there's situations that prefer no encounterseles because I want to I want to

have a narrative after when my sobriens cresca or if some day I've got

my kids, not say to tell to tell some way with with givilla

when when when when I was a new I'm I'm

a fixation for the film and it was a little accidental I

think I think I'm I remember I'm I remember I was in the

kind of I was regularly regularly at that your parents

have been a so we have we're we

Yeah, years remotos. Where they said that Dragon Ball set was satanical. Just that. Right, right I'm going to

talk to that time. So, I had a certain programation that I could be, and another that

definitely not. Then, accidentally one of the I was in house and me encounter with a

movie. I said, this movie, well, this thing, well, it's,

well, it was, it was the thing that yeah. I don't how I was just

just only just looking the and the The truth is that I like it. I know that I was doing

what was doing in that moment because I'm doing it. Regularly when you do do you know when you're

doing the movie and I'm and I'm not he could tell to my my father's that I've seen this

so, so then then it's just to have to the fear bato. So, in that moment

we used in a house that we'd we'd partied with the house of the house down, no

there was a day me said, oh, I'd help me to get the sabanas,

some some some vannas. I don't see if you have seen the movie of this.

Yeah, see a classic. Well, there's a kind of where it's between

sabaes. Between sabana so. So, so I'm my Tia, he'll get the sabanas.

And I see, I'm like, and then the mames, how I'm going to get to the time?

Then I'm never, I'm never been problems, although no, I'm I'm not me back,

matter, to get me to get me to get me to get a regadera, because you see that there's a scene where's

where's like of the Pichancho like that's and a and a part of that I'm going to go

with the little bit of this type of the other than then in the newness I've got

my mom and we're we're just we're like 18, we're. Vestia. They're not

they're in the place where you crees. So we go we've we've been in verano

vacations of navit there we we've we know you know that you know

you know to those friends of your primos, you know, you guys with them, and as I'm a little bit of that's, in that

then we don't we had the cellular and what we did we were to play between us and in the night we we had this

part familiar where my abuela, the mom of my papa, that is a man who has a narrative

very, very cabrona, you cautiva with what you can't, in the nights, in the nights

we were, uh, regularment us told a good story where we goth a moral

and the we're we're doing we're because it's when we're when we're we're

we're going to talk to talk about so then you don't you don't know you're

there they're where they're they're like this mysticism this city city Mendoza I don't

see if it's because in a time it was a city a city maybe maybe

for the endorm in the you're in the you're the case is that

there was there My primos count them the most grand. Maybe they were invented, but

one of the children, it's all all of the one of the one's going to like, no, but

that's the one of the stories that my father corroborate, that my mother, that my

mother, one of us affirmed a story. Okay. That's the neta that I did

me give me meh, oh, manita. Disen that my Tios were playing

in the car when they were kids. Imagine in that in that then

what most we were a super Nintendo. In that then there was absolutely

nothing more than that's that's that's they're in the way and they're

there's a time when they're in the sky. It's a bird, an avion.

It's a little that supposedly they were those aves with forms of human

and they were in an arbal near the capilla that is at the

house of my abueless. Obviously, that generates the panic of the kids. And this was repeated every every year.

So, so it was this history, and the people were that they said that the owner of the house had to tellar

those arboles because they was afraid that they were this type of things, that they were

gargolas, others that were chanekes, no see, Naguels. And then, and then, you're going

to be this, between the uncertainty, it's, and it's real, not it, real. In parallel

to this, we practically I'm in a house Christian. I'm in a church where they're going to tell people

said a demonio and that person did this, never me took to see nothing. Until one day. I remember

that we're there's where we've got to talk to a last rato. This house that was that cloned

with the We've seen. We're a house, a other colony, and right I'm

to give some data specific for that you're not the person that's the lady's, the

lady, was a very, very very big very bigita. He'd have had had been

about 75, 85, 85 years. Okay. And in that then the people,

like, the people, like, she was a man, a man, and a big,

very, very long, and was a rugatita, I think for the age,

I know, that's the hair totally black. I remember that the woman.

So, I don't I remember how she was the house, and my father.

And then we got to get to go to we're going, to go to two houses, there was

to go to and then we regularly were on the cantos, et cetera. So, so,

so the volume, Simon, no? That I know, when you go to

the church, no you know, but when you're going to go to the church, that's

the time that's a long, there's the time. Yeah, so. Adorn.

Ados more. More, more than. So, I remember that night, I don't

know for why reason, my brother and we, we, we and we partied us

abitation because they were remodeling the that was the court. Yeah.

You put in, in context the house where we'd were a little,

and It was like, of these houses little being like accommodated, well distributed exactly,

distributed. You get to the house, pass out of the door principal and insegid was the

side of the side of those sofas large, there was another little a sofa, and then

the other right to the side of the door, there were in the quarter of the room that were

the floor that was the side, in front of the comed there was a

A room, a and the kitchen and a little patio in front. All this has a

reason to be in the history. I don't why I'm in the cell. It was

in three time. We need to go to the school the other day.

For this, the court of my parents had a door

of these great and and it was caught. We had

had done the maintenance and the year. Okay.

So every every they they were in the door in the door, so

we're in, like, between we had we had been, I don't remember. I was

there's there in the cell. And, my brother, obviously, in the

court. Of course, I'm so, I'm looking to the wall,

and I hear that going back the escalers, that were like, that were,

but what me called the attention is is that they were like these chanklas

of the grues, of the grises that they're in the super. That's you're getting the staterates

atoraz? And the unrompibbles bant. Yeah. Then it's he's called

that they're going to the escalers and I want to want to be that I'm so I'm

so I'm make the I'm doing. So, I'm going to see that they're going to and then

I feel that they're to be to be a my mom, my my papa I don't see

so. So, so it he's that's that's that's It's

You see that Suben like six escalones And in this I'm I'm

thinking my parents don't these chanclas So I get there there

and then they're going going with the same chanclas but

yeah when they they're they're they're they're they're they're

after me then then they're they they're I hear

in the radio in the in the moment bato I'm I'm

going I'm going to you know the you know And he said, my

brother, I said this. And he said, is that I think that were my papas. I don't know, but my

papas not had because the door was never never said. Never said that they

never absolutely nothing. And at the other day we saw that there was there was

where we put us the basura. This tar was around of a poste. She cameo. No.

I don't see for the viento. No. So, no, so it coincid

that happened that was that was that we Passed the time and I rogo like in a dinner

I said look at this and my mom is 20 of you're not not you're not going to pass the time

and in one occasion I'm just so because my family had gone I'm met to

and I'm and I'm was just I'm gonna and it was a house a little so I'm of

these things I'm of the best you know what you're doing in the house

of the other. Then I'm doing to baner, I'm trying to rastra the sillies

of the commas. That's these shias were bigs, they're and they're

spantado and I? Well, I had about 12 years and the net, if the

really, yeah, and who's that's there? No, well, and I kept,

and I kept, I'm, I'm getting, I'm in the ban, until I'm to come

of a value, I'm at the house. Okay. But the sills

are disaccommoded So, really if were moving So I know I know what I'm going to I know,

I know I've made done the CEO before, but the shias didn't

disacomodas and it and I mentioned, and I said a much time after my

brother, that's a fan of the program and he he said, he said this,

this, this, and we and we and we and we in that house,

then we moved to come back to Tuxpec and in the

house where we get us also there's so there things there medias

medias but what happened with what you've that you back on chancras

and decals to what you do you do you to do you when we we're getting

to come we're back we're back a tia she'd get in this house in the

of Tuxpe there we're we're we're capital of the capital of

the world for certain we we're we to live there, my tia lived alone in that

thence. She kept, she occupied the quarter of my papas, and he says that one night I'm, that

a woman and that took the porthone, my tia was in the room and said that was the

window, and she was a woman very delgated hair very, very, very black, very great,

that was talking. And says my tia, that, because the signor is only,

then when my tia see the to do it and say the back the woman,

the woman, the resulta that she was very much to the lady had

had had been the house, the she had had had

falle so. Okay. So my Tia in the time, then it

says, he says that she he gets to and when comes, and when he comes to

get to them, and they were to give me had been vendied there my

papas. And a one one of the house where we got to live, also me

took to be things that I had been there's a moment where I don't let's

let's a nobody and I went in the prepo me it was I was

I was the eight years that I did in the Cbetis I'm

I was always I was only, I was with the music and I I'm going to put

in context the geography of the house well it was a little a house a house a little

the room the room of the room of the room right to my father of my and then

then I was in the room I was I was practicing and you know for this I've never

had been a problem with the obscurity so then I'm start to and more

I'm I'm the spigabata I'm I don't have to the door.

When I go to see a someone, a somber and he to get to the bathroom.

That's my mind, no see. Passed the time. This I not said, to you know,

to nobody in the house. You know, it's like, well, then it's like, well, then I was,

like, chelead, that was maybe chilead, I don't know. One day to get

to some familyaries, some tios with some some primos that were very little

in this moment. Yeah. We're there cotorreing and the other So my Primo, that's been

morrito, he says that he wants to go to the and then you know, well, then you say, he's been

the six here? Is that there is that there's a no, and I said, and I

go, and someone open the no, then there and then we don't know, and we're

we're like the senior of the house. Yeah. Then these these tios

for a question of the job they're going to us to help us.

So, I'm not my time, my little bit of the time, in the morning,

in the cell of my base. He said, my he's a morning,

and I see a back to be a back of the so. So,

my he'd open the eyes the eyes, he's he'll be to

get to and I'm never to see the way, is that during the night,

when we're when we're when we're on the channel and said I thought I think

maybe has been some he's a night that I'm a night and then the and then the

colony that they said they said they were that they did I'm there and I don't

never to see not more they said some that they then I heard

in some some of some of some of these of these of these cases

that they still they still they were some some In a house

I'd hear of a little but no would be nobody in this

house and they and they're like the people I'm spantar them oh yeah

but the but the the sombra that is in the house where

you're or you now is not we're there yeah no okay

what you think that could have been I mean many there many people

there people people in the experience paranormal in the

typical sombra the the woman of the somber the that the

duende. To me, never you've asked why really really this phenomenon

that's in the famous houses embruchas casas maldictas never you have

to questioner? No, I know, I know what I have been pasted there's

some, for example, the primaries. All the primaries were pantions were a

classic. Some prepas, some universities, no, is that was a

hospital. To the university where I went, there in the city

of Mexico, this is real the dwean of that house was this O'Worman is

a person of the same time of Diego Rivera and Freed was a was a

was a house that was a that man in that he was amnesed

one once called then they said that there was he was he was he was

he was in an Arbour close of some jacuzzis that those

yacusis then they're to be a little a stance for the students.

And there they said things. So, then they're this story where ah,

this bat so he prived of the life of the soul here,

like you go to the idea of that they going to get to do

then. Then one's to suggest to it's that's

that you got the you poxed, you know, that's, particularly in that colony,

I know that's been, we're doing, we're doing like family, a lot of this type of things,

my father, not they, not they're in this thing. My brother and I do we

more like, that's the man, that I'm the second, I'm, then we're because in this colony,

there was a dynamic that in December, it's a scene of the day. Okay.

So, all the The other people, you know, I put the carton of chelas, I put them, I put it, and thenro of that conbebue, yeah when I started, like, to, like, to sub-levels of alcohol and began to count this type of things.

Yes. Resulta that, those people who vizons, they'd like they'd say that they're that in their house, that of a sudden, they'd, that's, the cell, and more at the front,

in that time, there were four people, a little five years that's a veryisimus and a man and a nina

like two so the morrito all the time to end up to all the but there a moment

where he was going to and he was going to and he said there's there's a oh the

oh the oh the bida and then he was going to he was like the he was

so I don't see if the man or if the man or he had some something but regularly actually

this type of this type of conducts. Yeah. That's cotorreando and he

said, there's going to and he said, so much people, like, he had certain relaps in this place.

Yeah. That's not we know if is attribution that someone that someone that people, the other people,

and you're going to this type of things. And is that also the people have mentioned, much much

here in the channel, that they, because they, for part of their innocence, their poressa,

tend to be more susceptible to be, to be able, to be in contact with this type of entities. Additional, then to the

entities, it's, it's a lot of the attention to get to the kids, no. It's for

so that the little imaginary. You, you've had an friend of an no,

you know, I'm not your mind, and you do you, do you know, what is what you're doing, so,

you know, so, so, you've seen, physically, or really was a friend, that you visualized,

visualizabas, you visualized, pardon, in your because there people, uh, that they're

like they're looking really to be in really a person, a detail, so no, is that's

that he's he's, he's, so they're so they're like they're really being a person

physically, yeah, I, I remember that's called a rojo. Rojo. And, no, I know,

I think, it was a when, when I was to be my her manna. I think there was a

detail of, you know, you know, that they're to put a little more attention to the new creature of the family. And I don't know if it was a way

in how I'm like I'm like to passivar the awas, of that they come to take the reynado, for so to say

to say, and my family they said, they're going to get to come to get a caron, because it's like,

you're like, you know, you're like, you're all the attention, yeah. And of we're going

to get to let's get the new integrante of the family. Yeah. That, the

I really, I wanted I wanted I had to be the part where I'm to play with someone

but I was I remember that I passed a much time and that the carritos were more

of the caritos and of and of we're just we're not, and my my tia

that was I was gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna no, but my friend,

is that no, be it's being cabreated that the yeah what you what you

did? It was in the the time this of the house where I

did the I'm at the same the detail was that I'm going to make to do things

travesur that that usually not and it was because in my mind

this bat me said hey to that you don't do you remember that the

the man is the the like he he was like he let's

let's let's you know that in an occasion me me

he to you I don't I'm I remember if it was a motorcito were

some cars I remember that was a little that was a little a little a red

so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm because if my my papa if my

never the revelation right he came in the we're we're we're gonna we're

we're but we we're we're we're we're we're we're

we're we're I mean I'm in the and the batto

me says to the like he not he's like I've seen that they're

doing and the imagination of the fire with other thing then you

think you think that you're going to I'm so I'm I'm four years

and fraction and about the camera and I start with the enderer

and I start to put to fire to to start to start time

it's start to get this on and pego the grito, and yeah,

I said my my tia, and I remember that I'm just down the and I'm, hey, what you're doing?

No, it's that I'm just to get me to get me. But why? I'm not I'm not

of the things that I'm the things that I'm there's like this this is not so it's and regularly

I'm just to get me to make sure that's where my tia started to put to put up and that

this bat I'm going to do you're doing things that I'm doing things that I'm not you know, I

see that I know the morrito that he's talking solo for hours way, and that

then you know, but then when you're to get a way, you know, because never he said,

because I'm that you know, I think you know that I had been an friend you know, I'm a

much distance, I'm at sometimes I'm in the house, and I go, I'm just, I'm

just, I'm got used the meme of Homer Simpson when you're reading in the window,

that the matto live solo and he's loki so, so, so, so, but a

sometimes like are certain certain conversations on rojo, but so it's like, way, you know,

so little cackety that's in the same. But no, no, I know there's with my

family, no see my family, no see my thing, you know, like you, you know,

a family Christiana. Dentro of the christianism, the Christianism they've cataloged

those people imagerios like a not so so I'm imagine that if

they were interated for there would have been there would have done some

of the, Well, no see, I think that I a little I'm a of what

they were in the church. In the church, in general. There's there was a

confidence very, well, well, there's always a very profound

between my mom and you. Yeah. From, I remember a conversation that me and I,

so, so, so I'm, so, so we're, so we're, so we're so much,

and you then you had to the time, then my mom and I, and I,

pass and hours talking. And there a story not so scabroza but my

friends sometimes say, maybe for that's a little little I'm

I'm a know that kind of kindergarten in that in that then you not you

don't you that's that you're that's that you're I'm trying to I'm to learn

I'm trying to paint into the line. I'm the only that's super is like

to come me the restisto and mastic the coditos and

par So, then they're a dynamic or an activity that we had to write a to Santa Claus

in Kinder. In Kinder that we didn't know to say it's a little a little bit Santa Claus

will understand Santa Claus is magic it's magical it's magical it's magical to decifra your

thought so so my mom in that occasion I don't know because I think I think this

vacations passed for me to me to my car my card my two cards.

That I remember that he had paid to Santa Claus. It was a man chiro there was a macho than you. There was a

man who was he styrable so he had he and he was a form original he was a

mono so I then I had got of a a manoe of this I had

I remember I put those some hair and I'm he putes and I bato

he was I'll talk and patty and patty and for this we're we're just

that's that's that vicletes I just I was visualizing the regal of the

next year I mean so it's the next yeah yeah always always

always so I'm so I'm so I'm going to try this and be there a vickla that for

sure I've had a fixation with the color rogo I think that's the

story I'm going going to my mom and me and I say what you do you

know well it's the card of Santa Claus and the other is

for you that's that's that's all of this. And me my mom, and what is?

I go, no, this is this this one we're going. We're coming down we're doing

about a quadra. And me said my mom I'm going to talk to talk to but you

have to you know to say to say to nobody. Bava he had four years

and five six. Yeah. And me said my mama Santa Claus no

exists. And I said Like, how? All my life, my life my life, my years Yeah,

those longest four years and they're derrumbar there, like you, like, how do you?

No, no, no, no exists, and the Ries, don't.

But, all the Navidates me appear in regalos. Yeah. And the

Rathone you, don't know, it's, well, who's, well, you know,

oh, hey, but, why, or what? me said, there's certain

festivities and pardon for the spoiler if you know they're not so they're in the

way no it's not in the theory no I've been I've seen

I've seen they've seen a chink of vistas obviously if there if you're seeing

this if you don't see you no no change the channel

it's your pap or your or your fatherastro this

the the case is my doesn't they're they're they're

going to get giving two regalos. It's a chido and that

more no it's not no those the teeth and you dociito exists

no that's yes is the what is the difference so so

so so so so there's and I don't do

and I say this this of the of the the side of

the the Santa Claus and but a sometimes

I all this all this for what you I would have

asked to my mom of my mom of, oh yeah, but why if in the church

they're in this, because this or why it's not that I'm that I'm not quite

I'm not there sometimes there people who don't know and they are in the discovery

the knowledge that a sometimes they bring to the church and a

sometimes yeah I don't I'm so I think that if she had

said if she had been because the people term

influen influencing. I don't if you have passed, that you know

that you're talking about about the thing of the church. And he questions to a person

thinking that that person could have an assesory and you say a thing that has a

nothing to I'm a chino and in actually me tachachap for rebel for the

and you terminas and you do you what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm

so I'm so I know coincidio that the universe in that moment my mom

no man nobody that he said your he said you know, he's

talking about you know your and my story could have been totally different

right. I'm in other other other other other talking about

talking about here. Oye me my attention that that question that

that's because I'm saying I'm saying this, I don't do I'm don't know I'm

don't know because well because I know because I see a chinko of people,

well, the family extra normal. Every who has every one I'm sure

so I'm so I've talked about with satanical with, with Buddhists with Christians with Catholic

with agnostic with atheos so my postura here is not not is criticar

any religion and what you're going to tell is my point of personal. I've

passed much there. There are many many situations like even

even what we before before the first of that I question

many questions. So, for example, talking about of him, creences Abrahamic, Christian,

catholicas, they mention much such as things like the desoblamient, the spirituality to another

level, the projection, the projections, voyages astrales. And I, one of the moment, I said,

of where? And my Reyes, the response that I had is, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

And I put in context to other people that's people that's people who they're not only they're not only

they're oh but I'm sure but I'm but I'm it's not it's not it's bad

so no no it's good that you think you think you and much questions

that I had that I mean I said in a principle and I said in the

end of offender I'm I'm again I think I'm Oscar

that the power of God has been modified many at the

whole of the history, the process historical for benefit to a few people.

So, no I do I, I go, I go who, who want,

they'll revising how it was the time, well, the, how is

the Catholicism when they really were really really, even more than a president

of a nation, they had had in this time of decisions important,

so, so, so, their great influence with people people

Powerosas So I Paco, I consider that is manipulated to the whole of the

history for convenience of a group of people. We're about the manipulation

in masses we're about a doctrine and many times I've questioned yeah

standing of this side about about about things paranormals

I have I've I've talked with different creences

because I before I had in one and I said, is that

impressionate what this person is this person is a impressionate this person and I'm trying to assimilar

and get it to give to my to my to say, is that the people that I want to say these questions

don't me don't know respond or me sound with another thing that not a case or

simply they're saying they're saying it's all right God to be to ask God

God, yes exactly so exactly so there there many there to talk about

to one in specific that they're in the, the theme spiritual sumament another level

way. I don't see to call it secta, no see to call it religion

but they're they're many things in them spiritual desoblam

so they they're in this process no I'm not participate of that

religion I don't say no because you don't not no no

no no form part of but there but there many things

that I have questioned and And I consider that, that's produce,

this type of circle of so, where, where, something, something we're about this

church, no, of the Catholicism, is that there are like these, who are predicators,

yeah, like, conferencists, I don't want to say names of people famous.

Dill, del, but, but, but, you know, so, I said,

so, I'm, I'm, I'm, about, about the word, there are many

there's many there here I'm a little bit more specifically of religions Christianas abarcating

Catholicism and there there's much ramas within the of the sermons or of all

the all the passages biblical there are many many things like repentimient

to love to the problem and not only only they're talking that God is God

of love but also can get to get to fire consumer I mean, I've

done Oscar, no see if you have done that's done that much religions only are

in the abundance they're talking about the evangelism evangelio of the abundance in the you have to

give, for that God to give you that you will be to be a beddees,

that the time that's your sembra will be to be your and so

and so it's about to be focused to people people who have like this

I know that they have they have a concept very different.

Exactly. You, what do you? Well, I think you know, yeah, you know,

I think to think, to create, if not he has seen, that from the 90s,

Mexico or Latin America has adopted a system very very similar to the American.

Yeah. That's they're to be pastores, to be to be a lot of

what you say you, that also, depending of the side of where

you see, if it's a person, I prefer And sometimes is to listen to maybe a bato

to talk to talk to talk to talk about a talk about and explain numbers or you put to talk about

maybe of the exodus and maldito the man and you start to say things that you know

I'm a I'm a lot of my house and I don't want to hear to hear that I'm

but but if it's been monetized not much I've been an episode of the

Simson cultivating me there's no I don't see if you're Of course that

you? You know the episode where Bart where Bart he vending the house?

Yes, yeah, that is a great premise that episode that episode of the first of the

first, of the most of the people. So, they're to have this dialogue no,

that your soul to go to get to the life, and he's, he's

there's, there's a there, he says, but if no exists God or no

exists the name, the that's the church and he is the

reverend of money and that have like this signalament or this

comedy or this kind of a little a lot of that I'm that's the 90s

that episode and right you see the churches that are tupied in

money that also you know the part of how they can function socially

but you have to have to the margin to who

you're you see I've seen churches that have people

have people to being clear to who you're doing not it's the same

to be a message of a way that's an way that's a person and he's a

kind of different than a man that's a day to day to day to day. No,

you can't say, it's like this poor is poor, because he get you.

You know, you, you have to understand the context social where where is

where he's there's there. There's no, I'm going to say who.

But I I heard a person that's a good is, it's a good, is a

sort of an church. Okay. Is a a pastor? No, is a pastor. We're going to

call it a predicator. A predicator. It was a bado that was doing a very good discourse

of the things that you have to be proactive in the life because this is you have the

status social, you have to be proactive in all so so the

message was a was a That's pretty well. Everyone they were taking.

So this baton a part where he says that he said that was going a moment

of a blackas. Yeah. No, there's many people. There's

a lot of people of class of class maybe, and the bat said, no,

is that in that this moment of obscurity God he brought one of my cabos

and I went to the hectares of my papa because no we don't we have

these bato these these bato. These are you don't have to get to get to come and I'm

going to go to my father I'd like to get the car to get me in the caravan in the time in the

job call you a so a sometimes this type of these type of

because the message not for all and if you go back and if you go back

regularly regularly the the churches have they have a

prosperity prosperity already but but if you go to the

center of the you know, you know, you know, you find out of Jesus and Jesus lab at the poor.

Jesus was a man who gave to give to give to the oprimed. In that moment, historically,

the Israelites, the Israelis sufferian oppression of part of the people Roman. Yes.

He said that they had done and they subed impuests, because after this

had the bendition of that had their land fertiles, the waters where

they were they were abundant There was much abundance. So, then they were an pedicito and they'd

have a impuiced to the peskator, and imposed to those. So, then they were sakeying,

Bato. See, you know, that was the dictaura perfect, no? Then, he gets to

Jesus, and you know, and he gets to talk to the poor and the eventorances and the time

central is he's, he's, he is, he's direct to the people need to and obviously

within these ensnances also there there was there that he had all

and he said to Jesus, that he he's going and he says, he's, and he's,

he's, he's got to because he doesn't, like, to get to get to the brother.

So, then the these these are going to disvirtuando so, and it's

where many people say, no, I want to go to me talking, that's,

that's that's going to be in abundance, no, that we're going to get a

reality totally different. And that is nocibo a long-plast because

imagineate that you have your properties and there are people who have done. Because there's a part of the Bible that's a mal-entendid that says,

let's do it. No, this. No, it's not just that you don't know. And those Latinos, and this I was

a guy that's the United, says the Latinos are not, no, no, you have to do you have to have a plan?

So, if you're going to do you're going to do you have to a plan B. The people that had to just,

the people that were people who were people who were people that those He was caught So, so,

so, so many people think that I'm going to go to work, I'm going to go ahead of and the pan

to be able to when they went to when they went to there's there's there's there's where they're

and they're and they and they're and they're visiting us yeah, so I'm going to get a

guy, he's going to let's go ahead yeah, exactly, and see what I'm I've said, well I've been

I've said, if you get to to come to Jesus, not like the Salvador, but another

other way, I'm trying the history that passed over a two thousand years, would be to

destroy that a ball of people because you're taking to get to know that a

past of that we're we're still that's something that is something that's something that's ching of

religions that are about this God Jeobab in his scriptures you narrate

how it all the same it's repetting the same the same the people the people

that's to be able to see to the progium that I say I'm I'm afraid to say

if again to go back to Jesus as two thousand years more of

two million years would again to go again to go back

to and not not we not so what so what we passed

before we'll go back because we'll know it's my way to think it's my form of

thinking. So he would be a, to look to ask, to give a lot of

because like you doctrines that no those, so no it's not for

everyone, I remember of the way that's poor because I want, all, we all,

we all, we have we're in different we're seeing different opportunities. Not we all

we have the same opportunity. Not we the opportunity of that there's a there's a

in a tal place here in Toulombi you know, well, I know, yeah, I mean, so he's,

if you're considered. Exactly. So, no, we know, those resources, we have those

opportunities are different. Talves your opportunity is very different to the way that way that you go

to your car, so every yeah, I'm a different. But I see consider that

so, so, that if if if regressar other would be exactly

exactly the same not would not serve to know to know to know know the

history because he would be able to repeat it. Well, I'm talking a little

from a person and would have to get a person that's over the time. We're not we're talking.

We're talking about all the time. This is what you have to say. Historically I don't know

to say, Jesus came and parted a system that was and he's like this no, this

no, this no this no va and this no and he says he goes to and he's he gets and he's

he has many members of that that's the messes that's, that's,

he put in the he's a raya, it's supposed to he comes and rompe all this, no? and re-ace the church. It's like, this, no. So, the message to say the message principal is, amate to you, amathe to you, amatheism, when you see, from a context

historical, that was Jesus, was a revoltoso. It was he got to put in problems the government. So, he gets this

system, he gets this system, he's got, and he'll and he'll be to his disciples. But these vats will be

to do the same. And it's what we know now. That's where comes the ramifications

that we're talking about so we're in the Christianism there's in the evangelists and there's

and there's a lot that we're that we're that we also, that we're that we're

not coincide in some in those in those pensions and when they're when they're to have certain

conflicts that they're they're inundities terminate for things that battle the theme central is

to love to love to you feel a connection spiritual with the total poweroso and I

don't me important if the women have to sit down right on the

men's you have to you need to you have you need to you have you're you know

is a mismadre what is a matter is wait the principal

is the spirituality people could connect us with a certain and that's

it's all more than you know, you're going to you're going to you know, you know, maybe the

experience of that the factor social in the you're doing you're going to you're going to be a

way, and no way. A sometimes we're to live a life that we don't because

much people it's when you know, it when you're when you're going to be going to be good,

but I'm so my mom, this, my mom, this, my abandon-so, I'm an overer, and the life took in a mode difficult, no?

Yeah. It took a movie. And what you say, you know, you can't have the same as much,

or not you know, the person that grew up, mom, that have a very good work, and

you can't, or you can't the opportunity to get to a very good school, when, when, de

pronto, a morrito that maybe not grows with his papas, and no he took a fortune

to have to get to to go to the school, the pardon, and live in a manner totally precaria

and are worlds totally different and you don't you can't get to get to get a chance to do you? Seembrer

for that's that makes it doves? Yes, and so it and so there's a person

that's a person that, you know, in TikTok you know, you know, you know, the algorithm,

you know, the same and it's, look, you know, you know, apartar, the 10%

of what you do you do that you Garnas, carnal, Gano, I'm going to imparted the

10% because I'm to pay this, this, this, this, this, so. So,

to this a person, no, they, no, has a way to, so,

no, does, no, let's do, not the entry, and then you're

like, you're going, but you, but you, but I'm, no? Exactly. Yeah,

and more to come to Jesus, yeah, you know, to get to all, all this

thing, yeah, no, fickett that exactly like you like you do you

know like you don't know I'm sorry that's a peter that's like that's like that's

like that way like that like that exactly saludos but no no definitive

I think that I think that's practically it's being practically it's basically is repitient

basically and if that would and if that would would is it's is

it's is But I me also to be a bit more conspinoical, man.

Because, I mean, I'm taking in account the signals, of all the day of what we're doing it was

the audience that took Jaime Mousan with with Senators about the thing

Omni also is a thing that I consider that I consider that I'm accord to a

an agenda boy? You, what do you what do the famous agendas

Worldiales, all the piece revolting, a disaster that they're in some movements. No,

I'm going to canceler, Bato. Yeah, well, no, like, we're going to

talk about exclusively about, but we're not a certain, a movement conspinoical,

boy. Look, to say, the song of the masters of genitalica, the day in

that I'm present in an alien, I want to talk with that and to see that

out of the cotorreo. The The planet, no I can't say that they're not exist,

that's I think I have to have to be. I don't if you do you you know,

desviance a little and no at the way? Hasn't many years when

was a other rolloo so regularly I was yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

my other way. When is going to be this? When is this?

It's will be about how much way? Like a month? Like a

yeah. Yeah, it's to be good, my brother. Saludos.

Saludos. This, my brother and I have we had many memories to doga

this. I don't if you do you do you remember that in a man called

Jonathan Ritt. You do you of a man that was in the

bush and he was an extraterrestre and he had a

he had you know? You know? Supposed apparently disappeared because it was

like I don't know what also there's a chino there's like a guy's like it's

kind of it's like it's that's that they're disappeared for all this desmadre

that I'm don't know if you you know that in the program he was a not not

not it was like a yeah yeah yeah yeah so I remember yeah

and that and that they were there were like a machine to

they were they not they were they were a rumboid that they were like it was like

the nave of the extraterrestre and then it was in the refreau or something that he had

madriado no? That's, that's, that's that I'm that I'm remember very

vaguely. And I know the most times that that I'm that I'm yeah, I'm

yeah, I'm just I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm like a 10 years I'm and I'm

this pedo me does more more than what happened the other back in the

past all to pass what I told that's a rata. And with the

extraterrestres the net also I've had taken like a situation, especially in the

movie. Much time after the movie of the that also I'm

like a little trauma because in this moment had very good good

yeah, yeah a classic the part where they are in a place,

no see in a place, I'm that's a that's to get

to a other to that part that part so that the

little the It was in that moment. And right I was like two months.

And it's very bad those friends. But in this then it was the best was the old.

And it's all that way, and it's all the I can't say, maybe maybe, I mean, so,

for the context that's that's going to politically casual, right, it's like in the

United, so, there are extraterrestres and all the time are still the time,

they're getting, how sad, and how Feliz, Jaime Mousan that's a ching of time trying to, hey, if exist.

This is a moment, boy. And he goes. He's, he's. He's, he's, he persevered. Yeah, that's, the persevere, he'll answer.

Jaime Mousan is a view example of this. I mean, and I do with respect, I mean, the net is that the bato,

yeah, at a point of day, yeah, not many, you know, yeah, much businesses, people,

powerosas, productors, yeah, not they're as a person, but, but, as the investigator.

Yeah, so, yeah, is the referent, we. Yeah, we're talking of an an investigator

of the phenomenon no-human, boy. It's supermating, it's supermating, it's interesting, Oscar, but I always

I've said, way, date a kind of of something. No. I don't see the people

not know about the thing all the time all the time, but not get to the point of

their point of your point when you're when you're when you're when you're the response? Is that,

no, we know, we're Yeah, but, I mean, but, you know, they're talking that, see, we've been navies that don't seem to get people or that get in tripulants, or

naves, that rompens with all the technology disponible, that's desplasan, with velocities supersonica, over the earth, over water, okay, okay, okay, okay, but existen or no?

Well, it's that, is when no, it's when not they're not able to do, the, so, yes, they're, they're doing, they're doing, of

many forms I mean the great companies of communication they're this

we're saying we're like an investigation of all the desclasificated but you're getting

the moment of the fact of then so if exist in the exetereterases

no well we know we're we're that maybe yeah definitely

maybe maybe right that I'm to take a little a little

the world no I don't see if you remember that like about 15

years there's there's there's a someone someone if you're a productora

a channel you're to give a land then so the monster the monster of the

monster of the agoness yeah that was so many years but what the siren

you do you do you that was so for so that was so much no that

that had been in an submarino and and he

pego there something in the in the ventana in the window in the

partarisa in the and much people like I'm trying to and I'm and then

other other Ceres that say there are there there

there's there a documental that's I'm I don't know how is

the the the the form in that it but in

YouTube appears like Eduggo who are some Ceres Canevales.

The history is of a scientific that is to look to look a bird that is in extinction, me is that you've

seen. It's very interesting. A me I'm I'm really. I mean

I've seen many years. Muchism years and not so much I've got that other the algorithm

of TikTok it's a evented of the regress. And the net is interesting

how you want and they're planning to be that can existier other

species. And and maybe we don't we're not we we're at the final, the planet is

grandissimo. I've always I've said, that for me, for me, Paco, and maybe me to be a loco,

I think the syrenas existen, but no, existen like the people, you know,

like Ariel, or, yeah, rape, no, so, like Disney, you know,

I think, that the srenas, I do, I don't consider to, excuse me, my ignorance,

is some type of primate marine, man, have a semehanza with us for the complexion, for the

dead, that's all the thing physical also there don't see in the tantas species, we don't have

explored more than the 15% of the fund marine, so there there's a chingo that we know,

I think in that a lot I'm, they're talking about about about the times

about the little Levietan abitans in the fund in the fund of the

fos of the Marianas but I think if exist in the

sirenas would beendrines like a specie marina, we. That has this semehance

that maybe that the center to above are like people, obviously with your aletita, no?

I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, yeah the people are saying, I don't,

I so I want, I want, I want, I want to be my point of view. I think

some of some kind of some type of the ocean, still not we don't know the technology

to get to get to the submarine that he wants to go to go to

get a titanica I know there's there's there's there's

he'd have been a carlo he's he's not, no? No,

you know, you know, that's like, yeah, I'm so, I think,

I think we're I'm saying, we, esperando his response.

I mean, the bato was, we, we'd want to personally me personally

to be to know to you? You're you think you know?

Yeah, and no, I don't I think I don't know I think I'm going to say it's

I'm going to say it's like I'm I'm so so if if no

he's what he the I don't I think I'm absolutely of what

they say they're saying that's very good talking the guitar no no

there there's he's talking the guitar but but I think

is very good is it's is very good is very good

is very very For there I I heard of a podcast I think they They were A lot of They're there

A lot of And these I'm a I remember who they're They were They said They said they They've given

Aouija And then And then Coincidio Or other woyes They were A, Moseo'

And the waha They've been They've been They said He said that He said A lot of A lot of

And it's Like this They're They're They're They're I mean, so, so, so, so... Yeah, it's like if I'd try here a present

and... In another chapter. No, well, we were in a investigation. I mean, I was going to be in the chapter. I said, oh, yeah, perry, I don't know, manch. No, man, man, yeah, sure, boy. I don't know he's true to, I mean, I don't you ever,

I'm gonna'clock. Yeah. No, you'd have liked to be the whamassos. Yeah, way, like, no, way. I think he'd have put a cached-a-drejo to Adam. Yeah, I mean, I'm just the video of the nina picandle the collar is the

is the maximum it made many many many many years that's a video that's a video no actually

is a thing very interesting boy I do you I'm I'm gonna talk about

with with this with Carlos with with so interesting I mean

I don't of all your role so the reality is that is yeah

he has that's that's applauded to the investigation per normal

something something something something something something has to have

there So, so I mean, it's a guy that's a way that Yeah, there's a There's a word, there's another there's a man, I think he

fellsio, that also that's, of this, camera, or of this generation, he was a old old,

that also, but he said, but he had a question, because you're more involved in the theme,

not you don't you, you know, I remember, I mean, I remember, he made in the and I,

and he said, and he was so, he had seen of what he had said, and I think it's

a thing paranormal. No, Do you remember the name? No, I remember. No, I'm

a couple of the team of extra normal, of casuality, the program that was about in the pastica? No.

I mean precisely, I think that there's the man of Adam with this bato, with trejo.

Because there a section, yeah, we're doing, we're not a section in Oi where they

had an segmented with this bato, I think that there all this problem.

But there was this other senior, that this senior had proofs that this

so said this data and these he said he said to the way it was a very really good reference and

another bat was like this this bat is a chat and I and you I think I thought because

I didn't a number if it's me difficult a bit we'll talk about we

don't know in the comments let them those comments and you know no manches

Oscar Tremend capital brother brother. Recurten us your reeds social. Oscar Herbert

in all all those Instagram, Facebook, TikTok. So you know TikTok? A few

sometimes. A few times. This doing so like saying like saying things. With the

song too. Acerra. I was before I was being the program of

today. Well, that were talking about the movies. I'm

I'm I'm I'm two recommendations. Adelant I did

an a movie that is this year it's this year it's this year it's time

in the time prime and the other is time time or clock is star plus for those that they're

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don't have been there okay and not in the in the in the

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