EXTRA ANORMAL - 126 | Mi Familia fue maldecida por 7 generaciones Ft Chucho El Ktrin

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

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And, de-repanse that's I'm going to and I'm going to read. Because I'm going to the chida, no?

And of a repent do you another pass and it's me atore the foot. And I'm that I'm

at the foot. So, I'm in the fan of and I'm like, ah, I'm going.

So, until I'm a moment where I can't make a mind to the

surface. You're you're going. I'm started to hog. So, how

I'm I'm I'm the head and I'm I'm I'm

don't I'm don't know I'm the torso I'm

on the front of the alberka and my arm is on the

on the hand with the hand with a face saying me

not I'm not I'm not our our family

is maldita for seven generations Okay. Our generation is the ultimate, is the seventh.

This was because my abuel of these seven generations was, he robbed a of the mother of a catemaco.

So, that they're and they're and they're and they're so when it was caught and he

got this brother to to the children and seven generations after they and I this

muke a person I don't know the I'm okay. The muke is a

little my cajone the problem not is the a muke is my

manna she's she's encapsulva there and she knows of what

what she's she she wants she she to be here

with all of you this occasion I'm very content because me accompany a good friend today is with me Chucho El Caterin

How's that Chucho? Hey, what's how are you Puckooke much thanks for accept

me here here in your space so beautiful so I'm a thank you a lot of the

people that we're seeing and that we're not so much you know that much people sometimes lathes

quantity of when they're when they're doing the the labors of the work is a classic. Exactly. And apart,

there's one or another other loco for there that's called before I'm so I'm so I'm

a little and good nights. Thanks, Chucho, thanks to the people that's

with us with us with us. Amio, before to start, for if someone

not you know to know you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm gonna get a R-C-T-R-I-N

C-T-R-I-N without. I'm a productor audio-visual. I'm a podcast also about

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so I'm really, and they're part of the family extranormal, that to all the people

that we're in. Yeah, me it's clear. Everyone. All. All. All with

T. Mayer. Vena. Before to start, I want to say a little. Family,

not you do you go. Keep at the final. Because I'm sure that we're going

to talk today. It's to impact. They'll be to like to send us

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like, subscribe, and we're going to start, chucho. Before to start,

I'm going to be a first of the $400,000? I'm, I'm going to have a Halloween,

so la there. Oh, yeah, I'm right. Oh, yeah, I'm going to invite to a little

to do something that we're doing to see a in the city of Mexico that I'm thank you thank you.

Oh, oh, you know, you know, I don't know if you've seen the capitals, but here we've seen with

the question of the million. Crees in the paranormal? Super, I'm okay. Super, I'm so.

What is the experience that convince? Ah, there's the I've convivable with the paranormal since I've

never, I mean, uh, since, from, I've been been being been being

being seen for this type of things, no? Specificallyically, I've a anecdote

of when I've had six years. Okay. In the In the house of my, of my father, there in Selaya, Guanajuato, there's a alberka, not very long, because my father always had to be a huger us.

He doesn't know to do, so it's a certain respect to the water. This alberca mide, I think, are a, one meter, a 10, of altitude, is more grand than any of the six years. Okay. Uh, pardon, more chica than any other than any new

and six years, and my and my brother and I we used to fill them to get to get to the other more more than I'm

more than I'm a little bit of the middle and I, that's the middle, and one occasion I remember that I was

going to be November, justly, for the of the last the last of October, we're

we're notando and we loved much to play to what we're that we're in the television and

just about to pass the Titanic. The the movie of the Titanic. Then we we went to the alberka and

we used to the game, in what consisted this game, in that I was the Titanic, and my man was the

iceberg that had to undir me. Of course, I was in a certain part of the alberka,

she'd and me undia, I'd out of the other side, and I went to repeat to the

game, no? Yeah. I got a moment in where I'm I'm doing the world.

It's an alberka ovalada, then it's it's the final, it's

the point, I'm do the world, I'm start to come in

a sense contrary to the and I'm and I'm and I am I'm to read

because I go back again, I'm the chida no and the and then

I'm at the foot and I'm atore the foot and I feel that I'm from I'm at the foot

then then I'm so I'm oh, I'm going until that gets a moment

where I don't maintain the head in the surface. You're

you're going. I'm starting to hogar. So, how I'm put, I want to

the head and I'm I'm not I'm not I'm don't I'm

not so the torso I'm I'll the front of the alberka and my

arm is a on the on the on the with the hand with the

with a kind of saying me no I'm not I don't

in that moment we're going the gritty in our lives and you know you know you know you know

there's a get a moment when I started to I don't see nothing but when when my mom

me starts and no me can't get to get to my mother major

so it's my brother in my brother in the middle and in the three

me were they're trying to get them They were out of the water. Okay. I don't remember to have seen

something about the water. Yes. But my brothers said that if there were a man in my

topio. So, I saw it. And I'm taking me my tovill me to be back.

Not to back. To be where it's the part of the delverca. Oh,

and for those 90s that they had been bad to Penny Wise. Penny Wise. Exactly.

I was I was I was cargating the Palazzo. Literal. Yes,

yes, That's, yeah, that's one of the stories, like, more me impacted. Uh-huh. From there in the end up so, I grew see

without, okay. Because in grand medida, always that only was, I was over. Yeah,

that I was, I was, I don't me question, that it was, I don't remember that it was, and I think

idea of what figure it has, only I remember that it was really great, pursuing me all the time,

okay, despertable in the madrugada and I'd talk about to 5 to 1, 5, 4,

3, 2, 1, 5, 4, 3. So, like. So, I was up. I'd

the doors in the quarters of the quarters of my two of my time, I

remember specifically in a moment very, very, very culler that

was to get to get to a corner she, she had the door and

she was being a program of infomerciales in where they were

doing a account regressive so the the sound of the television and the sound that

I'm at the head around they were they're so terror horrible I'm going to

every quarter to my second of my mother never came the the fourth

of my my mom opened the door yeah I said that was something

because not was something was and me I'd get a dormido

You know You know To help To calm To calm Your fear You know Yeah,

I think Yeah, more than other thing My family is very Catholic Okay

Very Catholic In the In the I mean of my house There is An altar

Enorme to The Virgin of Guadalupe To Our Lord Jesus Christ

As St. Martin of Porres To I know I know With all

with And they're so they're very Catholic, at the point in where I'm going to be monaglio, in some

I'm going to I'm going to say a sacerdote Franciscano. And there you go to because when

I was monaglio one of the one of the fatherino that's a sacerdote me said when you

when you order you ask me because you you're going to be exorcista ah

car I I've seen like something something something So I, me, me pegged to that side and then I said, oh, no,

that floater. No, I want to be a sastardote. So, me deslinded of that completely, but, respondent to your question, no see if was the oration, that clearly the

oration always always a matter, and it's a fact, although I not be a Catholic, 100, yeah, I recognize that the

oration has a certain power, at a level that you that you want, this no see if it was or the

fact that my papas me accogied like I'm because I remember very specific that was that

my mom get what you and you again again again saying and then I'm saying and I'm

saying that I'm I was up the camera and my and my papa and I

and then I remember that they started to readas I remember that came to give

to the Ave Maria and boom yeah me disconnected

and me kind of the second day. Yeah. And is that the

question here, I mean, it's something that we've talked about earlierment.

Um, the kids no, they're not too, uh, that the entities,

like, they're they're one, and it has called the attention and we

have been mentioned, much times the time of the innocence, the purity that represents

for, for all for all this, the to call the attention and so,

because are people or person that a sometimes the papas

like fall in the error of not when when they they're doing this

is that I'm there's there's we've talked previously of people of people that

not so people that I'm can't do this because my friend or my

friend me says what I'm saying what I'm saying that I'm saying

I'm saying I've said I've said to all the parents that all the program all

what to have your he said, creole, creole, question, le, garner your confidence because

you never know what you can't start passing. There are many people who don't know for normal

and I respect us because we respect us all the experiences. Yes, well,

I mean, if no you know, but never is to have more to have precaution

not, ante uh, certain circumstances, no I know, but the

question here is that you did you did, what you had? In that time

six years? Six years. Curiously, a year after I'm my abel.

Okay. There's I'm going to tell a story that I'm a person very easy of that the

people like the people they can't things. You know, in the case, I'm

I'm going to me I'm called old, mehos mehals, that I'm that can't

things. And I am the most happy there sitting to make

a a coquita with a coquita with in this case I went to my

my little to the park and I was I was playing with another and I'm saying the they were in the

two in the columpio and I said the other you know you know you know you know

you know I'm like oh Rory and how it's called and it's me and it's

it's not it's invisible and so ah very well me interest continue yeah

and what and how and how it's what's He's here He's called Leone. Ah, oh,

oh, wow, and where he lives? Is that a a little and a a few in the sky. Okay.

And me I'm kind of, uh-huh, to be, okay, and this yeah, is a rarro?

Yeah. Okay, and when you see, what you do you say, what you do you know,

and he says, well, is that when I doormo, he's he gets in the part of my

camera and me be to I'm and when I get to I'm

I'm and I'm know that the kids bring lunch of non-s

and say he's he he's he and I say okay

and he said and you do you have done you to talk to

some no has no has no no he's so I

say yeah she he's yeah my mom the my mom

the In that moment, I said, this, this is, this, I mean, this, I mean, I mean, because it's something

in your house, or me because no, he was told me, because no, he said to do you know, and I asked,

no, what, my friend? Oh, yeah. And I'm so, okay, no, then,

then, So, there are many cases of of children that are, it's normal, no? It's normal,

I mean has been much imagination. Yeah. But, but of a repent they're going to

get more things with those people, that's, I mean, I mean, I'm going to ask you,

you think that exist in the phantasmas of the children? Yes. But I think, a very,

I think no are phantasas, way. Okay, yeah, to elaborate. Is that,

yeah, it's that, of all the stories that I've heard of and all the anecdotas

that I've got to have been with the I don't see if you've done

the phantasma of the woman of the manco yeah the phantasm of the monge

the phantasm of what you want to but when they're when they

talk in the phantasm of the man oh we're we're we

don't buske espantate you Bustra-da-da-dhawned. Bustca-tokartee and in your majority, reclama your soul, for no,

is the word that's vetted from here. Ah, that's good that you're saying. Desvivirte, desivirte. Yes, yes,

that's the other power. That's the coped because. Dan, just, this is here, here in the city

of Mexico, here the moment of 31, they're talking of many things that they appear, but what is the most

the most the little. The new. Because the little what does is or so

if espantartartes but to provoke a reaction that conge to a action

more. That you pierdas the control, that you forgets that you don't

mirees at front and you termines stampand you under a arm

or what whatever and eventually you get the life. The people

have that have survived to this phenomenon all, or in in their majority,

describe the encounter with a is that before that the last of the last I remember was to have seen a

or a man or in the space or simply in front. You're going So, exactly. So,

the entities of the people, there are various legends urbanas, the children of

the eyes nears, the people, the spirits that do abut, but we

always we're Agarrat, because if you see those is not good, so it's like

the phantasm that you're and you know, and you know, yeah, it's so there's a there's a

yeah, and it's logical or mano because what we're talking about when the initial, the newness,

noblerce innocency or yeah there were people that when we're saying is that not some

they're not a phantasm of the people, obviously in basis to their their

they're saying they're they're they're men are they are Astral, are entities oscuras

encapsulated in what it's done to the same reason. They're bads. They're not entities very malas

that are so I'm not really I think can't spiritus of because a man who is

an innocent or is a man who is a man who what he wants to do you know, but here

we're not people that want to be people. You're going to tell my

version. Yeah. I'm I had the Crencia of that all these These are

entities Oskirts Inmascarated for that confies in them the Crencia most common

that much people defend a cap and spada there is a demonio that is a man who

Balaq okay that is the demonio that we see the that's that's

that's that's exactly exactly that he he's if he's if he's

if he's if he's if it's the only that's the has permission to do it.

When I when I when I talk to I'm much contact with all the time for

one of my team that is director of investigation exorcism Okay this

the sacerdote me says, if exist the phantasas of the children if they

can get attorados okay because there are there are to tell a story

I have a I have a friend that was he had a radio for internet in Veracruz

and there a little that was he had a chance to get to get to get to his radio

he had a in the car because he not he didn't care

to his mom he and the he doesn't

two days he and he and they're from his

mom that the he had a problem a a

a disease terminal. And his mom and started to cry, he's very very so.

So, then the little, the kid to get this chabbo to the studio and

the little, but like he only? He only. Okay, he's auto desvive.

Okay. And I had a amigita. Yeah. And they asked a friend,

and the when they they're not really doesn't respond to months after months

in where she he said he said that he was that he was that he was to make a

decision because she not wanted to her mom because she was because she

not wanted for the money, for his treatment, for his reason, that's the

reason of that in the studio of this radio began to start a million things.

Yes. A lot of travesurasuras nothing nothing that put in risk but I used passos

so they were the doors there was a palota and that a palota and that

he was so I guess so I regress to what I said there's there are not trapped

because all like the adultos they have something they're in this

case a boy his mom he had he had the preoccupation of how

he was to be his mother so so I'm could transcender

the problem of these people that they're they're that's that they're

they're spirits of children are some spirits manipulated by demons

or for entities malignas to to execute things that you make

to make fear for for them to get what

do make the thing make the more more

more more an child and say, Mom, you're

you're doing? Yes, yes, so. So, just exactly that's

like the form of using that image of the kind of purest, of all

that, it's like to be sure, and to get a bad,

it's all the alertas and you generate the fear, the

fear sufficient for that they can get to get your

vibration. Yeah. And precisely is what is, I'm, I'm

studying a demonology, without to enter me a lot of like you do you do you're

like there's certain demons angels caedos that have there are many chakias

there's the geracias there are there are those demons the people, the prince

of the infirm and the presidents that they have under their

legions of the men and then so talking and making

emphasis in Balak known as the profan I like my really

really really really and so The Monja, one, that many not they

liked, I mean, it's a respect, but, but, the fact to manipulate

spirits, in the space, time, and do it's those marionettes, basically. It's impressive.

And also, in their moment, I said, that a other person, in the case of the

kids, if they were to live to 80 years, 90 years, then they were still, like,

to grow, to, uh, but they're, but they're, they were to be able because they're

like they're like their years list. So, so for a reason a lot of

they're in the best in the life, those years like they're they're still they're not going to

get to the life, no, so they've heard of those. Exactly. Oh,

no, no, I've heard of this. And there's that's that is that's that is that's that's just

that I'm to know, I'm not 15 years to know to my 15 years, but I

was going to live 80 the years restants I'd go to and be the spirit of Paco rondando in the studio there in their

house I mean are many some much creencies but what you call to you

about you the theme of demonios I like I'm just I'm just a lot and you

I'm just we've been to visit to Alexis the Angelito uh yeah in Tepito

and it's a thing and it's I'm I'm going to tell the we're going to

we're an interview with, no, I don't like to call the interviewist

because not I'm talking about a chat about us talking about a chat with Alexis

with the Chinese in Temito in Barrio Bravo and we we're in his

altar to the angelito negro who know is a form of a

lucifer okay and a different to startot to also a

also a really has different demonios there And it's a sensation And it's a sensation

Okay I'm going to What I'm going to What I'm going to I'm a signal Of course I'm not I'm going to But I'm in a plan

Okay, I don't I'm deves nothing Compas Here's your Offrenda Chido Let's go Let us go

With what we're With what we're With anything With anything And I'm And then say Alexis Sirvete a

Cavlet one servele one to him. Well, I'll serve my caballito, I'll serve to my tequila

and a little of him I'm I'm a reposado the color me diombar yeah

was the tequila more insipido that me had taken to my life. So,

what you say when when you quit the offrenda of the day of Murtos.

Exactly that me passed exactly that And I said, Chinga.

Well, the Well, the most Well, because I'm going We're in

tepito, this carnal me is being weird. I mean, not the Chinese, but the

not the other than the thing that's and the and then we said, Alexis,

fiftate in the offrends that you tryen the color and you get in the

color. Yeah. I'm in the manzana that had a behind,

a manana was a was a was a was a totally the rojo It's discolora

It's It's It's It's It's It's It's all It's

because the Because the Demon so you Because the Demon's You know your tequila

Looked to be the tequila that I put it was Agua No manche So,

so like The sensation that's that's It's a It's a cold

intense Calor Abrasante but not it's inco No is a It's a

color that you generate to say yeah I'm I'm want to I'm

not for not for not for that's very very very so

that's and something that in the quarter of that

literally it literally it a car the the

and there there and it's completely free yeah

and completely silenci and the bestia exactly exactly

and so and it's and it is that the question you want to how is that

the energy? How you feel because when there's a there's a sometimes you and you say you know it's

that here is that the bad vibrator or no, how it's how it? No.

Contrarially of what I expected to I was, I expected that was a I'm going to go back

I'm saying I'm a salute to Ismael Ogun that is a sardote Boudoo

he has two altars the day that we went to visit it, the altar in where was all the pedacery of animals

uh, no, I don't see nothing, but where I'm their deities that were only so many

not some mukees but they're like they're like that's a painsteads horrible and I'm going to doleer the

umbrough yeah I told you I said a when I'm when I feel that something I'm doing the

head in the stomach or in that in that moment he started to dolele the oombrough and I said

you can you can't grab here if you want to do. No. Thank you, no, carnal, thank you. Because apart, it's always, when I grab something that I'm doing the archive, no. Amen, if it's true.

So, I'm just. I said, no, no, no. So, so, with permission, and me back. And there there, there, I, no, no, no, no, no, no, so I feel much energy

moving to, because, yeah, there's much energy, much intention, but no, so, but no it's the only moment in that I felt pesado was the day

of his first. Okay. We got to talk with the Chinese

in the altar when yeah he had had finished all in the night,

yeah almost and to make to dole the head badroensissimo

and we said, no, yeah, let me get us a signal and

many people then say paco a sometimes see those and me do

the and I'm to dove the thing and it not it's not it's that what

cagamos or what we we say we provoke a maldiction. A sometimes it's a series of circumstances

that are line and you provoke a reaction that's something that you have that's

like this kind of that's so it's when it's when it the victims of the podcast

but but but as talking of those places me have passed

and me has because I'm also I'm also I want to visit

the Cue in Catamaco O this is a It's a place,

a pretty a very much what I've done to. You're really?

Yeah, but but for something. No, it's very very

too. Passing for the third cell, the recinted, getting to

the second, that I think the garganta of the diablo, is what me said

unicornio and you know, and until you get to the place,

that's the place, where he he's the he's, he's, he's, I know,

I know, I know, God, but he and they I mean, I want to do more like the fan of documentar,

get like the camera and then I see to show to the people how it's there. How suede? Because there is, there is, there is, there is

apply how the magic. Yeah, totally. No, there's form more literal to say there. Exactly.

There's there's really a lot attention to these places. You don't have visited any of those?

So, specifically. Not only I've visited temples of different sacerdotes of different

cultures and religions, because some of them don't like that you say cultures. And if I have got to those zones,

also I've got to some caves of sacrifices and where they put a brujeria in serros, in mountains.

But no, I mean, we're, we're going to make the goal, pardon me. Oh, one,

one that's called Expedition Spectral. Yes. And other that's called Mexicultism. In

Mexiclism we do that. We're doing little documentaries about Mexico

occulted. So we're we're in that we're we're doing to doodoo justly we've got to

get the of the angelito negative and we're we're doing but why I'm going because

regressando to the thing that says that much people say oh yeah is that

me so you band you have you have to understand a thing

what here is encapsulated in this place no it's not

out of the camera but you're vibran with what is going to you're

exactly so that we're not that we're we're we're going to we're is that you

put in the vibration of what we're doing and if you're you're a bit of

a bitchio for that you're doing or something that they were and not

they're they're they're they're they're they're not they don't even

do you do anything don't do you You want to liberate something. I'm talking about in shingadderas. Here we

don't we recommend oh, yes, yeah, Tamaki's and Paco if you do you do you. Yeah, if I'm

but because I'm with someone who I'm going to start a person with a person with a much experience,

but if me to care to do it only I don't do you know. I mean I want or I

want to do you because no you know you know you make to you know

and it's when it's when you can't like you when you when you in the

same frequency like that's active and yeah the people just being seeing the

people yeah the people I know that's there's we're in the expedition

inspector that we did we we're in the park of the sculptures in Niskali. Yeah, I

think that's Iskali yeah I'm sorry if we're using we use an application

that does the functions of a spirit box for the band that

not know that's a spirit box, it's a radio

literally, it's a radio that's a thing that's constantly and the

theory says that the people can use and modify those

ones electromagnetic to give to know some a message or that

it's a word that that's that is the theory

of the spirit box. There a there was a

we've a Bavala to and they started to

get literally all the program had been cacophonies like 3C, that we did get a

moment in where they started to answer what he said. Claritim clearissimo. Okay.

Of actually Diego, who is that we is that does that we started, he said,

this mother no sir, he has to have to have been to know soundos yeah,

I'm I'm never to think to I'm yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there there in that program in where the Bavalao

says, Jefe, yeah we're going to a song a guapango. Ah, no manches. And in that

moment Diego said, no mames. In that moment, you can't see a kind of

of a spanto, no? What happened? The people started to start out of this application.

Uh-huh. Although I said, no do you do you do not. We're going to pick the

Abispero because there's to get and we try to this cabron that you know

that's you know you're going to do you know, so it's the same like with

me when I'm yeah I'm like a so I'm like a bad,

you know and that exactly that's right exactly because that's that's that's

that's then I'm a friend that was a fan and then he's made

a lot of and he said and I need chucho I need because is that

I'm that's that put in the consultorio, and now are going to things.

And I said, the first, I said, what I'm going to do you know, what I'm doing, what you do? So,

so, so, he said, because, because, if you have, if you're

to be, I'm going to explain to a form very simple. Okay. You, when you

see a cato in the car, if the got to do you know,

the cato was going to continue coming into. Sure. But if in some moment

you cruas miras with that cat, the gato, the gato, you will be to see, and not you're going to get the eye, the mind of

the end up, until that he's, or live of danger, or close to you. So, so that same happens with these things. When you vibras, in that same

syntonia, and when they know, that you know, that are there. That are there. Ah, papito, well, agarate,

yeah, so, so, so, so, no, do it, so, in that so, in that's, in those So, it's resumed all. There's the case

of Elia Samuel, the bato that in his house, leo grimorios, opened conjuro and we jave and then

he was asking help in TikTok to various people. I don't know. The other case, it's very macabro.

I don't look at the man. I'm sorry. Because they do you know, I know, I know

that's a curiosity but learn in what we're talking better with we're doing we're the we're

we're we say we said we're And he's there and point but then it's a lot

in your house where he's not exactly, exactly. And, a very, let's say

something that you're going to know that's not quite not this sir or I'm for a reason. Exactly.

For a reason. Exactly. Yeah the the people know the people know and the

people know of the same for the same for the same that's just to make the studio of yeah

so it's because it's necessary so also in in my house to when we

when we We started, we have a friend, the the little the new, the Joaquin, he, he had 18

years in that moment, he was to edit him, he was editing and he because the studio and the

studio and the house was in the officeina was down. The repent he got in

chinga but we we're because we got he back he was that me moved

the stia me moved the chair and he he said he was sitting and he

did it So, we said, no, you know, you know, there's a little bit. We're going to go to another place. Exactly. And every time I have to do a limpia in the place, because if no, the band that convivism

there, we know, we're we're saying, of the nada, eh? Of the nada, we're going to, yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, now imagine if you're that now,

and they're doing things. It's a, is a, quite a cano. Oh, you know, you know, you can't

a podcast of terror? How's How do you How do you? Soverevivienes Sobivienes Like extra

Space Normal Yeah So you You have your podcast Of course What's the podcast of Your Mano?

And there's A lot I'm I like much The band The band That received Messages

The Medium Not necessarily That's A band that no Tube No took No

No Tobobob contact paranormal and that of a friend a familiar gave to give to give us a message that they

helped to that they're that's like the messages premonitorious that's so I'm like much

those stories and apart I like much the stories of sects yeah I'm

going to tell a story of a secta before to pass to the beautiful let

do let let me my my my her man my grandma the

well uh before of this I need to give to this context. Our family

is a maldita for seven generations. Okay. Our generation is the ultimate, is the seventh. This was

because my abueled my abel abelah, tatara, tatu the abelow. Ah,

like the the emperor of the tatatatatat ta-tah, so, uh, uh,

uh, he was to robb a child of a of a so, that's

that were and they were and they were and they were so,

when when and he found and he maldijo this broho to the

children and seven generations after they're so so in what resulted this is

that all my family of part of my father we all we we

we we have I think a entity not necessarily phantasas

be entities okay my my my amy is very susceptible

to modific energies. I'm like a time before before we did you

talk about you can I'm can't I'm let's the things of

people, he said, um, um, a man who is that is a

recalada because literally I'm like the people, and apart of that

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of specifically

that's, that's very specific that's, here almost we've seen,

I'm kind of chido to have to have someone that's to get them to the color,

the color and the like it's obviously there's a much people there's that you know

I'm not no see but you you're not you're not so they're accustomed to say like

like me I'm sure so that that's not you not your but well so then

then then it's the color and then you see how it's that idea that's

that's this but well one one one once with this context

my My my brother does therapies holistic and he and he

he's with the pendul and with other things. Hego with

she, I can say no I don't you know she came to

a person to a which she wanted she there was

one in specific I said it's that me in the love

me in the love you have you've made that

all the stories start with that with something that has to have to be with passion or

love. But, well, this this chica comes and says that and my brother and

my brother said, okay, since when I'm going to I'm going to see, the man, is that my little bit of

my cajone, but a I don't I know I'm I'm going to my mom

and I go to my mom and I'm The problem It begins In that The chick

She gets To tell to my Irman The problem Not is the Muneca

Yeah you can't You know The problem If the The problem is the Muneca And so

Sure Sure, The problem is that A few days I I used to

her her her mother to the mother of the Amiga to

say he Parenthis Every that we talk this story to

someone always we'll or that something or that we're going to forgets

but we're there. Atentus with the cameras yes, yes, see, ohio.

Atentos with the cameras I'm here pending here of the audio for you do that this

this her man he says ah is that the muke is my her man

she she's encapsulva there and she she know of what

he's she she she she yes, my my woman

needs to help because it's a ultimate purpose to transcend okay

and the she's the girl she gave like and how you know you know

she's a okay and the and the her man he says if you want

to help to you want to you want to you want to you

need to tell's times at all hour okay

in the fan good Honda of this chica for to help

a friend to get to and he's first to do.

First, everything was very very beautiful. They're doing oration

Catholic okay until after that they're we're we're

we're to get to a place but you can you can't see nothing

of the thing in the thing the child the chica that's She said that

they'd a panteon. She jura that they were in a pantheon

and he says I don't know how it's that I'm there's there's there

people, I know I'm there were people there. There are people

saying things and apart there were there were mortals there there

and I was there and I don't I didn't they're

I'm but I sometimes I'm I'm I'm going to be chido. All go all right,

all went perfect. The problem is that's a few years, I don't me

really. They started to pass things that not I liked, like I started

to have accidents, I'm to have to have problems in my work.

For this, the her man he said there's there's a person that you're

working and it is a thing, and he works to Well, to this

senior that I was to work with her, she made to get to get to his job,

a week fell in coma, one a month after she died. Wow.

She, the she says, I know that they're doing, I know what they

are doing in these in these rituals, but I don't want that they do you

do that I mean, I mean not me important that they are trying but

not they don't do to the people. In the last times that this

person went to a therapy with my brother, my mother gave to

say that she's she's she's the contacto of other people

or other entities. So the she gets to say is that this last

this last time me get to the pantheon and

I'm sure that was the one the And he said,

My brother, how you know, the you know, me agarro of the little. Ah, sweet.

So, my brother, it's like like, oh, like, like,

and yeah not I don't want to be to do this, no? And then my

brother started a a consulta and result to be that the pendule

to be to the question to my wasn't, obviously, that he had

that to be alhara that she that you not do that you don't

do you and the problem with all this is that disappeared the chava

the chava the the chica that went to my woman disappeared

no inventes yeah not not they know not their

family know no his family know she know that

so so so so that so I mean me

I like much because It's like, what happened? Yeah, but they're of a good

but they're in everything, so, because, yeah, all pretty, and all chido, you're doing, they're helping. And is that the thing of sects

and in their moment, we're, we're about them and we're banninger. This, is the theme of

those initiations. Some of their initiations are very, very things as as a

human and we have to be much with the thing paranormal there

there there much there much thing of occultism there

people that they don't and there people that

they're in liquid rojo of animals of the of the

animals are some are so things are so

there in those loggias or of those groups

have like the creencia, no, of that you have to pass for

this process to be a good, so much people in this process don't want them one of the

one of the a secta or as a group very powerful. No, are the Illuminatis

not are the Masons I'm because I'm like the people, ah, the Illuminati

no, no, no. We're like a little an elite but if a family.

So, It's a family. No is the Gilbert? No, I don't the number to the man, but

only only were in people are in people who's, so I could enter in a president municipal,

I mean, we're not we're talking about, what? We're talking to, like, I mean, we're not

we're talking to actionists, of the business, of the first world, so pure a person,

really, very, very powerful. The case is that between they were infiltrating,

while they were like looking information because they're very very occultous so they're not they're

not exceiven a period was trying to start by the caron that he was to do

make it the case he in his first days and I didn't learn to

this for that for that so that's not so I'm I'm you're talking

what I'm I'm when he he when he when he he describes

the place like the films there There are cabrones vestiges with capuchas with tundicas

with tundicas negras piccudos Exactly Entra the place in the place

there's like a symbol in the middle These people are surrounded the circle

one of one of them has a campana and it they're and they they're

so he remember that they back like the capucha and

he begins to recognize a much people of Now, now so,

that's a cabron is president of this this this actionist I don't know of what,

he, so it's how to when they when they're when they're when they're to start

and it's when he in his relato he said, well, he's not a guyina

but no no problem so, so we we're talking about this type of things

no. The brunke is when one of them enter like a door

that He was there back he a minute and he he he's

a lot of someone that's he was and he and he was a person

cargand a baby they're in the baby in middle the baby was

and completely without and they're to him a dagger like

this abel and he said you you're to you need

to you you know you and in that moment and I said I felt like the

heart me latheal at 1,000 was a father obviously he had he had

he had to be the child and he he said something something if no

I do I do you with the they're going to make you because yeah

I'm here because he's like he he was a value for because he

he said if he's not I'm he's I'm going to do so

of all of all he He, he, he started that he took like a minute, but in a minute he, he, he gave a lot of ideas and pensions.

So, like, the time is, so, like, the time is detain. And what I do? What I do? No, I do. I don't know. I'm going to perseil. We're going to. We're going to say, I'm going to. So, no, no. No, no. So, where you go, they're going to find. The case, my God, is that, you know, is that's very strong the pressure, and

this person decides not to do. in that moment the, well, you know, the, and he's running the

place. So, the only that's people are you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, that person that's, like, so, it's like, it's like,

saying, if not me encounter, or if I'm, it's for this. Yeah,

no, was casuality. I, I, because he said, I, I never,

I've never, I've thought, auto-desvivirme. I'm a person that's good of his faculties. No, I'm a man that has problems existential. So, yeah, because whenever when so say in these

things, he's all-it-so-so-loquito. Yeah, sure. It's the classic of when... Cancerver, for example. Exactly. No, I suffer a depression. Yeah, yeah. So, so... So, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, he's never, I'm

done these delirio. I'm a man who loves the life. I'm my family. And if you me You know I'm I'm going to I'm

I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm sure because he described and like going and going to

this is not the typical sect that you're in a country in a city of the United

we don't we don't we're we're just you know to get to you think this could get

to exist I think independently giving the benefit of the I don't say it's

reales or is or not is real, but you think that exist I'm I think that

I'm going to basically for the sense of community not, no or so because the perteners

yeah that's that's a yeah so they can sit to say if you die a

person and yeah is all what they are all and it's oh it's that both

we've both have given situations where we know that are people

that is that is that are put in a power and that in that

power they're to do to get to certain certain games

of energy that they're so I'm really very viable the fact that

that you know there's the example of the oh

I don't the name of this company that has

an sculpture Hindu of a god of a

no I don't know what's but well that they they

they Usually, also discovered that there are certain that say that the door to the place where

is where the CERN. The CERN. Yes, yes, yeah. Cusualalment the Puerta

for some histories and some legends are in where is the location of CERN and where

that's that's that's I've got for here some here. You've

seen? But it's like, it's like a woman that is like a yeah,

yeah, exactly. Yeah, That's the same. And there are various videos in where they're doing rituals in front to that sculpture.

Yeah. So, then, then, obviously, I mean, there are certain cultures and certain groups

of those that not we're going to but, but that they're resan to entities for the obtain of the

knowledge and of the power. Okay. And is that you, recordas also what

were saying to some some bruchos that I interviewed, of your market, that they

They're looking who They're And they're So, yeah, or very malos or

those who are, yeah, exactly, or political Exactly. Exactly. Never

you've put to, I've said, I don't do you know I'm going to you know,

you know, that the baston that the baston that they did it to do this president

that's I was I know, I know. That's for me that is so it

so much interesting. Yeah. Because I don't I do with much respect not only about the politics

and I'm spiritual spiritual and narrative no has nothing to be nothing to the president

and my respect to the president but it's very curious and very chistoso

because talking with various bruchos that have like this baston they're

saying that you don't you can't if you are the person you can't

you can't talk you can't you can't you can't smayar, you can lose the

knowledge because it's where it's where it accumul to the power. Yes, it's a

concentration of power. Exactly. If a man, he'll talk, it can

disvanecerse or better, depending the force that he can, the case

is that I put to think the representation of that all the people indigenous and

all the culture concentrated in Mexico they they they're the

baston of the power, really is the baston of the power symbolizing something that

many people are so the people indigenous no no no no no no no that has that has been

a transfond sumamently and very interesting the the fact of this baston and that even when

he's like he's like he's like to see a wait wait that that's not

that you don't know you're not you're not we're not we're we don't know

we we decided to give us because I mean, that I do with all respect because I don't talk about this

but he yeah, there are photos where he he's just to saydien to someone to a person

so I'm so I'm so details because these people, the leaders, over all the people,

the same is that this is that's so it's that I'm that I'm I'm saying you know,

I'm it's a yeah, it's a representation very, very very important but you

what do you think is that? It's That's that if those people So, the people

originaries or people indigenas like those know them, they're in many, they're many. They're much.

And something something is to work with the energy. Because, to be, you know, they're going to

get more things, in where they're more things, always is in the places where they're more

in the naturalness. It's for that I think, I think, when when when you said, here pass

things, and I did, I think, I did, I don't know, There's, I mean, there's a... I mean, there's a... Obviously, it's

to the Yoron, here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's real, we, net. You know, you know,

because it's always it, always it's, when there's when there when there's when there always a

movie of energy very chida. So, then these people who are in contact with the elementals,

he's, I mean, there's a story, that if I'm to the I can't, I'm going to

stories of Javier that's a manned a saludate so much he's a way to

get to get to and he's a person very very avid in this role

he's he told that he he doesn't much to go to to get

to the mountain and to get ongos no no

ongos for to come okay I was with an friend

so in the process he is a person he's from So he's

He's a lot A lot of He's a He's a person very Linda Yeah He knows

He said He said He went to He went to He was He was He was And he

He was He was And then He was He was He said He said He said

He said He didn't He He didn't He no He was Okay Okay

Cabe Destack That Javin He didn't He was He didn't then it was like, chingas,

what I'm going to do? And he started to say that he started to see, he's going to in the bosque,

fum, fum, fum, fum, yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm going to go the story.

And that these things were going to get to other part of the bush. It's

they're disviable. He gave to a claro. He says that when he gets

this clear in the middle of there was a parted the parted the

part of the an arbo Enorme, enormous, enormous, enormous, enormous, and that

one of that's clear, you know not be all the things to get

to be in the tronco and he and he starts. In this tronco

he entered in ecstasy says that only I've only had two times

in the one of the two. So, that in this tronco he sentia much

pass and he sentia the sensation like I I'm Like,

Like, Like if it's Like, Like if Stubier Like, here,

here's my place, let's, I'm gonna do not, I'm done, not all chid,

until that's, but no, I mean, I mean, I'm gonna with this carnal,

I have to do this, I have to do that, I'm to do so, he's, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, and the things that they're they're

they're they're they're to the difference is that he was that he was quite

he knew he said he said he said he said he he said he

he started to try to try to him but Jami he said he came he went to

he came to 500 meters to get to get to and I said and I was he was like if

he was here at 10 you know in the in the bosque no is

not easy to hear I mean, you need You need a distance very short for to get to hear and he he was used

and he said I came like 500 meters to get to and one ever getting to the river me

I came in the river I'm going about 20 minutes, a hour so all the time and

I was a repend I found I'm exactly in the same place where I'm okay

and that his friend he said what you he said and Javis he said wait

I'm I've three hours I'm here you're here you come you

come you no be me how I'm never we've never even I'm I'm

I'm per die me per die for three hours I I've got to I'm just

to see a life so so then at that that's a level

of energy so all what we live in the

zones natural. And that were duendes. They were chaneques. Exactly. Yeah. Segun you have a difference between the chaneco and the aloches. The saloches are with protectors

of zones and the chaneques are those that say, if no, if you don't, if you're not, agratt, car. And the presionate is

like in these little buckles, no, that rompen the space of time. The space of time. Apart, it's in a copy of him,

the other brother. Ah, for this, he says, in a day of recollection of, of on gongos, we've got

a canast complete. When I came to he had any the half of the canast

no have recollected nothing. So he he he's that in a

trance was his his friend. He was his because he he's he went

the time. Exactly. A the bestia. And what he did his

his hours? Nothing. Who? Who? Who? Fiatte that

has much time, no if you have topado with

the these escalers that are in the bosques. Ah, I've heard, I've heard

a little a lot. One of a other podcast that one person to me a relato because when

when you these famous escalers, there's that you don't you get to be there,

and they're not it's like the great thing, simply are those are those

because it's like it's like it's like the doors of the houses in the

second pieces, no? Exactly. The case is that this person

gets to work to a place like a guard bosque where has a

chief, he has more more and the first that they're saying to him

is that there is there are like they appear mysteriously

so they know how who is that they put or how

is that some because some people and they're they're they're

so it's a mystery very complicated of how Chino

appear The case is that the Advertency is that No, you Aserxes to the Scaleras The case is

that one day Yeah, passing some days this person sentia much curiosity to get to

the pinches because the first the first you know Like no I want to I want to

I want to I mean because no the case is that one day agar and

he's going his roundin he had to be to be to be to his

he said he had Not to get you to the escalers. The bat, the bat, he goes, so, that's, that they're not

they're, and these are the attention. So, he, he's up to the escalars, uh,

he's up, he gets parado, he gets, and so, this, no, no,

no, no, he's, no, in special, agar, he, he back,

and he, he goes to another way to his base. There was his head there, very enojado

and he he said to the escalars and he he's he's that's because you know

well I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so you know it's so you don't have

four hours you need you had to have to have taken about 10 minutes so you went to

four hours brother or man or so and we we'll we'll we'll

simply he's up the escalars and yeah no it was nothing.

But that little time, in our time were four hours. He no

regressable. He had to go to get to just so just to give a time and

to get a time and he went four hours and he went to so the jeff

was sure so no if you did you do you do you do you have been

to be wow I mean I remember much the story of the

tiendita has heard the tinnita of the new? No, no I've

heard of this history I'm not I'm don't know I'm talking two people

one me the one of the state of Mexico and other me and I

don't I'm sure in where is that but that's that and it

and roundando and not it's for one person then

then then in a year new, in the carreterer or in some space valdi or appears a tinder. A tinder like

any other. It can be the of the 2x or the 7 or the you want to you want to be a turn?

No, no, no. Tienda of abrottes. Ah, okay. A tinder of a barrottes. No. You say

the of the antiquedities? More or where they're where they're reparing things, no? Yeah,

just that is another, that's another chida, No, this is a tinder of barrottes So,

that's a business Yeah, where they they're papitas, water, food,

food, food, all of all of all of all this. The person that was

the Moraelia me she told for one of his family to the

that he passed. Okay. That's could be confused that's he was a

year and a but this this coate said, that went in the careta

and he was to buy to to no one one once

that enter no they're not they're a life a year

for a year for a year they're they're they're they're

alert Amber all what you want everything what you

do do do they're for more they to

do after exactly a year he he came

to come to where where where You know, where you? Like, where did I end up?

Where'd where? I was... I was... I got to... I was... Ah, the... Oh, the... Well, not...

...so... ...so... ...so... But is that you ...you're... ...and I'm going to a year... ...and I'm from the

carretera... ...meet in the carreterer... ...meet when I was ...and when I was ...to've got to move to ...move to move from... No, manches. And then when they're

...and then when they're that... Well, it was too a year disappeared. Yeah. A paro. Yeah.

He'll get a life. No, he did a paro of the impression. Okay. So,

he got to recuperer, but of the impression if it was like, and he did a

paro, and then it he did a little with the but that's the story also me have

been told in the state of Mexico with people that are coming that get

to a maldio, they're met and and not they're they're you think

you say, I go, what is your opinion, or what is your thinking behind of these places? Because here

there's a story that he's a family, or an friend of him, but are some places that

like you do you say, they're in places, no see, terrains baldios, something very

that when then you're there's a there's a there's a here. Here's here.

So, here's a thing you, what you think, what you think, One, is that there are many

theories that I have respect to this. One is I'm a real credient of the

theory of the matrix, no? The Latisse for Jacob Grimberg. Errores

in the matrix. Errores in the matrix of a space time with the

that we don't do you have much logic. I think to get a moment

in where literally the space time does it and he took devenas

at primaries because as how it's going to pass with a tinder,

it's with other things. Also, I think can be, in the

case of the man this that I'm I'm also, I'm

think it has been the state mental, is the capacity

that has to do that time to do that's, because I think that

not all is literal, no I think the time and much less the

space be literal, I think can be modificable

Yeah. Justly, like like the Matrix, like the Latisse of Jacobo Greenberg, like it's a like to Pachita, as who wants,

and I think more than is a form that one, I mean, is that's that is that, is that,

I mean, in the bosque has been, the end of the end of the elementals they're saying, they're,

well, see, be what they're doing what they're doing. Yeah, but the the team

no, it's not, it's not, it's, there. Yeah. There's there's

there's I don't know if you have seen. Here we here with us there was an invite that in the

town where she was there was the story of this sir that all the morning that was

to work to work his times. But one once passed where there was

there was a strange there a point so the then the man so he

went with I think in his burrito or his Caballo, no, I remember that it was, and he

entered, no, and see people inside of the Cerro, so, I mean, like, it was another place, and he saw, there were a lot of people working, but he's da-counter, at the door, so, he, he was put to work, or so,

he put to do what the other were doing, some of them were carrying water, they were doing activities, no? At the termination, he said that one person was to come to a, a little

a mess he was a couple of hours, man. It was to, you know, even a pair of hours. I mean, it's just a couple of hours. The case is that in a moment, a other, be that's over, over the door. And he says, well, it's never, you know, it's a world, because this sir at the year if he felles. So, it's like a

price, I mean, like that's the time, at the more if he only would be to live a year,

yeah, he's, independently of where he was the time he lived, he lived,

he, but, for him he didn't, but, he was, he was, so it's

like in the movie of click, no? Yeah. Well, if you went to

your problem, but, so, so, so, man, so,

man, too. Oye, Gir, that's that I'm going to think in these errors temporals in the

time, for example, of the stories these of the Russian that that appeared in the middle with his

passport of 1800 Sergei. Sergay Agha Exactly, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. He,

and then you put you to think to like, what on, no? I mean, so,

if you do the, if you do the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, The doubt of saying, whey, if really the time no exists

how we're we're going to describe it. And really only is like... It's there was

a factor extra. Ah, the Ombney. Ah, there's like,

there's something. I can't be very well, I can't be a good,

I'm going to call to Sergei in 1,700, in 1,700 in 1970 in 2023.

Yeah, is a declaration of, I want to me make a more

Exactly. No, so I'm I can't very well of your story and quite interesting. The Omni

that is revealed in his photos and all the people who are that they're showing those documents and showing

I think they're 50 years after no? Yeah, yeah, 50 years and that

yeah there there was that in that time there had vistamient

I mean I'm I'm I'm first I'm first I'm first I'm the

first you think you're you think Ah, and never I've never seen a fan. I think so. I think so.

I mean. So, yes. Yes. Yes, but no of a way conscientious. Sure.

So, like, in a dream or or something. Yeah, the style Charles,

Xager, when he's a logan, or something. More or less, mentally. I think,

I think, is, is that, is that is that is that maybe a form of

a form of a physical to a, but But maybe not the

We don't know our My form to understand the paranormal is that. In some moment,

our antipasas were you were able to understand that the friction generated that sufficient

energy and la la so. So, then we're, ah, it was a first time.

We don't have the sufficient understanding and sufficient technology to say that the

paranormal is something that may do something that maybe exists and that maybe

it can provoke, provoke. Yeah. But that we don't maybe still have the

sufficient technology and the understanding to say, ah, is this this.

So, so I think that the time, the time and the space are the

same way. And is that are not exact, then the mathematics that we

don't work because our mathematics are in one sense. Well,

in two things. Yeah, so the time not is linear. That's

yeah, I mean to be very But there's the theory that in some moment is going to

discover this and eventually the person of the future are going to care to visit the past and it's

when we're that we're doing in this line we're saying what is this what's the theory of that the

future or those are humans of the future only are just we're just we're we're just

that's been that's very that's been intense even the The fact of this role of the first engineers of the humanity, you know, of the Sanunaki and all this, then kind of kind of does a sense to there.

Because it's the fact of like to travel and transcending that space or time to be able to say, ah, this race I did. And this raucer me pertains. It's a thing that... That's a lot. And is that not only are the Sanunakis. There, I mean, here we go, here we're going to...

Like, how do you say, Alucin are a chingos. Yeah, they're in a ching. Yeah, they're in the ching. Yeah, they're in the chino, those Pliadianos, the Anunaki, those grises. The reptilianos.

They're these that are like felinos. I don't remember of your name. That's one of the rations most antifilin. Also, it's an impressionate, but I don't know

where you can't know where they're out of some information of something of something that. But, but it's chido, imaginary,

elucinar in this type of things that's that's that's that that's

that you want to you want to you want to you want to do you a little

a little a special um no fickate yeah I want to give

to give to give my form to see and my form of this role yeah

for me just what I say the paranormal only is something is something

is a natural that still we don't understand so

in my podcast much people say Like, oh, why not you're more serious? But because

I think the taboo of the paranormal should be iras eradicating to little to so that we can talk about

and certainly to say the people, is that I think that this me was about me. And when

someone and I went to a story and say, no manch that's it me pass to me

too. So, justly, the more it's summed in those stories, more we

can't find the thing to say, ah, look, oh, here,

it's this. So. So, So I think that basically you have to keep to say,

that's the don't know to say, of saying that's not to say, because of this form

we can't make a thing to talk about about the climate. So, so we're

doing each one of saying, I'm sure that I'm sure that that's, for most

minimum that's that has a lot, to all to say no, or the

plan no is a or if no, or if they're going to let's they're

to be. Anyone who in that moment not had passed a lot, today, today,

they're going to be, they're going to see, and they're going to be, they're going to get those

comments to know who was the infortunated because the fact, how's the people,

well, they're saying, is that they're just that's just no, no, no, no, no, no,

how you're that's a problem, that's a drama, it's a drama, but well, but you,

let me, your social, for favor, for the people that you don't you

Before to say it Oye, Paco, Hasiel, I never I'm going to can't to thank you.

Because net, this space is incredible. And I'm know I know others because,

because, well, but I keep with this. So, that incredible the community,

that's incredible the environment that's quite, the I said, I said, I said,

hey, carnal, much great, I'm I all the time. What locura.

And, well, thank you. So, very good with the family extraanormal. A goodastas

to know them and a gustavis to be in the eyes. Because right I am sure that you're seeing,

I'm seeing. We're going to grab up. No, a bear, Banda, also, I want to

know that know what I need to use this maskara because for me represent

the occultism Mexican, you know, all those those of that paranormal, all that's a material that

that's a matter more than a identity, it's like, like, like, like,

this is our culture occulta, our magic that all we should know, that if

you'd in the panza, a tea to tell a thing, of and so,

so, so, that's what is the Katerin, that is what is what I want to

communicate, that the band say, Mexico is Chido. Mexico is Chido.

And thank you, I don't know I see, but this is this is the catatina. No, well, well, much thanks for having been here. The fact is that

we appreciate us a lot of so much. So, family, you know, that I'm going to the description for you go

and you take your turn. Visites for there to my brother Chucho of his podcast too. And then you

commentes that you make a podcast extra normal for that he see to get to get to the

there's always we're talking and we're we're seeing in a new chapter passen the bonito, until the next bye.

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