EXTRA ANORMAL - 131 | Regreso del Doc, Hombres de NEGRO , más allá de una conspiración

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

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they were going to do that interview. But in the way to where he was to grab, he noticed that there is a new, he relata that is a a coach new. He even

I think that for the opulence of that vehicle was a vehicle of some

political or an embahor but he he relata that the vehicle

is put down of the vehicle and not a second vehicle

he put just right and they don't no

there form that he advance for back or

for the not to make to the and

what they provocation that he going to end up

after that he I'm getting completely his vehicle. What he

relata is that he the first he's doing is to do it

to do it but no even he does know

in the one of a back and with his and

he's he will say textual the words that

he said he said he said the he said you appreciate

your life and your family don't talk more of what

you know what I'm what I'm doing the material changed exactly exactly

and that was what he made think that that's he's he's he was

he was he was in contact with those vasichas and he was

he was he was put in his kind coberties that he

that was that same night that he desenteredro that was visited by two Humbres of Nekro. friends, be

welcome to a one capital to a podcast extra an

normal. My name is Pacuari and I'm very happy

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way but that today we can say we're doing a lot of a thing that the

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we're sometimes we're some incredible or very fantasiosas but I

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you're doing we're working working and again again

again I'm saying I'm so I'm so I think I'm

that you the part of the conversations sometimes are very

most very emosionate and about I was something complicated because the last we're we're doing in the capital

of Oaxaca and we're here in my little Tuxpec but how has been my friendtons how you have been so much

work the and then much I guess I think I'm a very I'm a disculp with your followers for

for well we're to have let's to have let's promitied at the

program anterior that we we're going to talk of this theme but I

consider I think that the quantity of evidences the quantity of the cases of

we're going to be a very short if it was in the program earlier

for so a disculpa but I hope that I'm going to

do the information of the information of the relato and that we're exactly

we're we're we're we're how, I don't know if you have seen some video of where we've been investigating for there

I think you know that you know I'm yeah, I'm also I'm also I'm commented when

when you do you know I did an advertency honestly I think you consider that you should

you need much careful because I know I have a part of experiences

obviously not for to do not for with some friends if not it's a

visit urban in but if we we took visit a place no

I don't give many many details to not even to make

those people because it's a place where is a place but

basically basically it was a family of class

middle yeah father mom and three kids. Okay. And one of his kids, for

presions economic, looking to make money easily, he met in this type of ambitto, well, relations or

things demoniacs, for so this person, this person, in some form, it's a committed,

but gets to a point where gets to to lose the head and it's a

whole his family in their house. It's a case that even the

people can find if you do that that

continued there and I went with these friends

to know because it's a business public you

can enter but from from from the moment

in that I could appreciate a demon literally a demonio on

on the on the over the building of the moment that he was automatically you know

I don't enter okay and if a person really they'd like how

they'd like to know how they'd see in this type of entities right

that was the movie of the monja the two exactly so as

how it's see in that movie I think that who realized that

movie or has seen or has informed much but really

so they're in that color of that form with those

factions so and grotes and I you I

do to make that as as as a

kind of that all that kind of has

certain energies that not that that no are not

good. Okay. And you have a much precaution in this type of situations. Yes.

Of actually just what you comment many people have commented. And I want to say something.

Because many they're with the doubt of Paco, protect you. I've got my

protection also. My protection is different. Yeah, I'm going to talk to more,

more personally. But if both my Keep Boy and I, well, so we we'll,

we're just one of the protections, one of the protections more of the most powerful that's the most question.

How is you know, how you know, you know, a entity a choucrer or, no see,

a spirit human, what is the certainty that you have to what you are doing is really

something something a demoniac well normally a entity of that type of

level of that magnitude is very difficult to presential it is the only entity

that I've seen in that in that form in that magnitude I'm

related with the the the the allor that I'm

a a like a kind of a car podrida

that has but it's a car and it's a car and it's a

a lot that can't accept it's horrible that the

the fear that the fear that is something

that never never I never I never I have

I've seen to the multiple occasions and multiple

times that I have been in contact with this

other other other other other and I consider

that that entity if is a demonio for all these

things that's what's what his form physical or his

physiognomia how is it? It's like a combination of some

kind of some people and many people and this have

heard in the majority of the people are very

great but now a fusion between a perro, a lobo

but with a type like a how what more what most me to be in

the mind is a man lobo but with some

qualities demoniac because not the the garas and the

the mouth type this of this of another

one a entity that just just just see her, impone,

da fear, a lot of a desperation that no can't describe. Okay. So, basically

is something is something monustroo. Yeah. So, his skin has some color,

is a completely black and in occasions in certain parts of his body with a

color. So, with a lot. Wow. And is the first time that you

did you do you got to see? Yeah, it's It has years that

And until the Fecha That's that was the second for so

to say the exploration that I did and the last time. Why you think

that this type of entities have in these

places. I mean initially you you was a place where

was a tragedy and well we know and we have visited

or we've explored for our new channel if

we have found that are very carried of

energy where where it passed some tragedy that implicate derraming of the sandra-innocent or some type of but that from there it's generated an

energy malignant in the place that is used by the bruchess but you, why you think that is a place where they're in these entities?

I consider that this type of entities see in that energy that can perceive in that place and they can't

some form, they're like the force to remain in this plan. And I consider

that, well, it's like your aliment, the tragedy, the murder,

all that are things that your followers no, not, they're not,

they're trying to avoid that type of places. Yes. All have

known very typical. Some place in the carreter where has occurred a grand

sin-fin of accidents. That quantity of blood derramed normally when it's

something that the murders are very very segued or are accidents

that the people don't describe that they're going manh

and their car and they get the control without

a motive is a type of a type of a

reclamando more sangres. So, is, he's reclamando almas,

no, as well, you know, say, oh, and precisely just as you know,

it's a message that we're to do the followers, all what you see here,

what you what you do you don't is for that you don't is for you

you're going to be you're because we we're we're we're more

professional possible in the sense to have all the good the

investigate a location to be able to do something and not is something that simple as no you can't do you can't

do you know what you're so please all what you see as you don't do you do you

do you have to have to be much careful something something I'm saying

umar is I'm an open a easy it's

the problem is it's Because there are some who can't close. So,

that's a window abiered, exposed to a great quantity of entities that enter and

they're all the time. So, so much care. So, all the

people who want to do this type of practices in your room, in your

recamara, parts of your house is, no, no, no, so,

really is zero recommended what you can do you Well, I normally I see always

his comments in YouTube. It's the only platform where I can read those comments and I understand the

molestia that took your followers, the grand majority, because you decided

to play the Whig. Uh-huh. That's so I saw that many, so I,

I, to your public, well, what I can do is to make that

advertency that no don't not so not so they can be

more more more than just because they're sure, because they have much curiosity

and really to find people people that can manage that type of situations

with the risk at minimum is very difficult. It's very difficult.

And precisely for that what you comment was that I did I

try because it was very difficult I don't I'm from other

city, no I'm in Mexico. The time, for example, of Samudio is very complicated. And to have the

opportunity, I guess, is the moment this, I'm doing the molese of the people, but no

no matter, no so didn't happen, no succeeded nothing, but I do it's

something that not you don't know you're to try to get to because they don't

know how it actually, no I know so so I'm so I'm a person

that was I'm guided, I'm I've been to be able to get success in

this session but well we're to talk to a thing

that everyone everyone I think it was the moment we

let's talk about the men of a thing that

exists and I think it is more a secret to

voices about of these people that they intend

silen to all that has had had been

a contact If I'm permit you, I want to initiate, for example, if the people could have a lot of the boxes that we have in all the screen here, in the mesa, there's much information about these

people, but the first visitamining that was about these agents that are in the sombers was in September of 1953. Precisely, he passed to

Albert Bender. This man He lived in a part of Connecticut the which had his cargo one of the

revistas that had they were about this famous not the theme that for the

for the years 50 was a thing was a little a thing

even if you even if you you you have been that you're

beted of whatever but to the people he he was

he he's this man in one of the volume of his

revis that had to with an alienigenas, announced something very impactant. He said that in one of his next volumes, in an impression new, he was to launch an information that was to change the form of this phenomenon. He said, and he said some declarations,

''demascaration'' ''argumenting that the contact of alienigena' He was very close, so, like the the information a little delicate. For his

surprise, this man he passes the time and is visited by three caballieros

vestidos very formal saco, a attitude a little strange. Who

came to visit him saying he said that they said to what he said.

But that no could sack that information of any

way and it's a time and vendor doesn't make

the information argument that what he had said about

that he said he said to say that he was

a thing was something he was so he

started basically what he had promised to say

he even he he he he he said he

said he said he said he caused infirmities but really is

here where we're the first silenciated for these agents of the people of men

of black as well we mentioned are these agents that I think you think

initially that they were only in parts of the United but after what

you you that we investigate together I can say that they're in all the

world. You can say of this? Yeah, well, there's that there

even a movie, a saga very famous with this name, one would get

to think that we could be to make a new but many says that a real

really a little a view is something dispercived and And the

cases that we have we have cases occurred in Puebla in Oaxaca and other

that's so far as so I'm so if you'd start with one of them?

Yes, I'd I'd I'd I would an place very emblematic

very known for this type of abistamient that is Atlixco initially

we'd to try the report policeial that I had presented a

citizen we're going to let's clear some things before to proceed

with the relato obviously the about this thing has

certain risks that really we can prove that about

these things to investigate of these things have

consequences and for certain respect for to protect certain

identities we're not going to give numbers maybe a place approximately

but if it's important prevening is important to maintain the security of these

people that are that are to talk and if the people

get to investigate this thing is to have done that there

many periodists that unfortunately were silenciated for making questions for investigate

things that this type of people consider they don't need to say to the light

yeah of that we don't beings if they're not are humans that maybe

we'll let us let's let's let's in the relats in the

reports that we we're going to give to continue okay well

this person is of that region of that that he

he's what he did was that he went a report police for a

type of of a kind of to what I'm

this person is a a a a night of torment. After a night of torment,

in that region, he acutio, no, and he encountered certain parts of the semradio kemadas, as if they'd

have been playing and he he called a attention a bar of metal, that he said that was like a barrily

in form of relampago, that decided for the time and the consistency that he had, to have her house to use it and to

use her and arreglars his circle. And it was over 24 hours when he relata that in the night

they presented to his house two individuals of black with gafas black, capice black,

a completely a description of the men of and they went to to his

house to ameneras to say to tell us that had to give the things

that had I've got to that place. And obviously you're only in your

house and get to offend and intimidate, you're you're to defend your

territory, your house, but these people they were they were

by part of the government, never they did no, any identification

or something that that was really, but as he only he only

live there with his husband. And at not only those that were not only those that were in the door, but there were

more individuals outside in in coaches, well, news and the color black. He, the only

that he said, he was, he was, he was, where was the barilla and where he had used to

do that had used to do that. These persons took that and also, and also they

said, where he had been, where had been, where he had encountered. He,

he Indicow in where was his parcel and apparently

these people were and realized a limpecies and he

the only that was he was to get to for

obstigament and for amazas well obviously as the

bureaucracy so it was it was because no

he was because no there was a a conflict

direct or a something that the police could resolve in that sense. And we're

to get that report but so Paco yeah you know what situations that

that's that that a past that it is a document

official and not include any type of attack against

the attack not he could get of a form

well, like it could be able to do it. It was a process very, I go,

it's something that's a little respect to you, for respect to the people

that were involved, but if was a process very, how I can't

mention, I'm very very delicate. Yeah, it was very delicate in

the sense in that this person that has helped to suffered

hostigament was investigated for being doing this type of questions

for being soliciting this type of copies of those documents and when

this person asked, the only that they said that the orders was

that they came from they're exactly and here was where

I'm there was a moment where there was there was that

the problem is that the person they said, Paco, you know to get a

meta, Paco, when when he gets the doc, the really is that I

said, what I'm going to because as you do you do you just

just just to and to get to certain and

and and to start a polvo is sufficient for

that that these people can get to your

way not not very there. There a A case,

my friend that is one of the most strange here in Mexico

that I want to talk about that has been to be a abistamient

of a human this is one of the cases not

known the pilot is called Rafael Pacheco Peres

when me said too checkate that case study

and I'm let let let I found this passed in the 76

the 21 of July Pacheco was an student of aviation and a day

he was to make a plane a in the in the country everything

everything was a person that was academically was very

very very the problem was when he He's up to the vionetta,

despega, and at the few minutes he's lost the communication with him. The radars even, they're just to function and they've got to

have this contact with Pacheco. The problem is that after a hour regressa the communication with him.

He was not in the city of Mexico, he was getting to Capulco. something very strange a part of

there because the distance or the time of the distance of the city of Mexico of Capulco

was an world of approximately three hours and going very so he was there

was there was a hour the impactant of this is that in a

he starts to have communication with Torre of control and with the

members of the people that people that had this this

Basically, of Acapulco, they did out of something very strange. He started to talk to a form very strange and there

a part where he says he, he not is talking for voluntat proper. He is

talking because so he he ordena. Pacheco started to say words and

orations that impacted to all those those those who are

listening and to who are people who don't I can put in questions

also of privacy but in this audio Pacheco is talking in

a person not as he where he he says he is

he's talking because for us for us for we're talking

a message he not he not about by voluntary

he he is he We are we are Ceres that abitamos

this earth as well to you We're We're a Rasa different

I'm say that not they're soos that there are more Races in the

universe a a years of you and that they're saying

that they're saying they're they're they're like they're he gave a

message basically alienigena and basically Pache was posseed for some of these

those, those these non-humans who controlled their movement, his cerebral, and he did

a message a very extensive. The people that were listening the message in the Torre of Control

not they could be they, they were, they're saying of what you are saying what you

say, what you intend to say when he when he aterisa the avioneta

discover particularly one so he did so much time I mean it was

a velocity that was that it was a super sonica and even even a hour how you and the impression

is that the combustible of the airnet was complete Pacheco is submitted to the programs

to investigate his organism was under under influences because of things that altering for now

so now so now is so now so that is that during this process medical and the studies

discovered that he no had no medication or a substance that he

would alterer a past of the proofs Pacheco pierde the opportunity to be a

pilot for that simple situation that if if it was false he was

even in an interview if this was false I would have said because

me costed my career me costed basically the not to find a good employment and this

it was earlier the people the people that were talking about this thing about in the years 50

the years 60 the 70 were people were people that were they were marked as like those

like those like the the worst today now is a time that is a court

of the United in in places Where, and in dreams, this was

a thing fictitious, a thing of a fanatical, a thing that

if a doctor or a pilot about this, he was expulsed, was voted,

and it was beted for not to work more there. So this was the

case of Raphael Pacheco Peres, one, well, we, let's,

let's, he got to do learn to do this, for this position that he

took in one of those I feel impressioned with that Yeah, it's a case

very impressionate more than reflects the stigma that was living in that era the same if you

were in these things normally you know normally you categorical like a patient

psychiatric because they were they were like hallucinations for some type of stupefacient

alcohol problems psychological so so it was a was a it was

so it was so it was it was it was it's, it was ridiculize it was

so easy alterer that information that you dabbas like to make it for a

exact but but right in this in this actuality in this time in

the time in we've we've we're we're not so easy reprimed to the

people reprimed to the media of In fact, even the platform of YouTube has certain restrictions on certain things.

And, well, we'll see that this video no, no, I'll silence. We're really because it's one of the videos most expected, friends. So, about about these people, in concrete. It's something is a little bit of,

I mean, many can't about it from the fiction many can talk about

many can from from a point of a point of

but when we we're we have a register

police a carpet of an case is when

these people and really apparently appear and so

not is there some there some there some

with the case to clarify that as we have talked

before to start there there there certain levels of

information that they're in repriming okay not because you

grab with your cell an object an object or not

identified that that are saying that's entities they're to be

a information really how to say it an evidence irrefutable

something something that not that not that's not that's these entities they can

visit and they silen and now that you mentioned to this case of

this pilot we remember that there many there many if one

could be to talk with some pilot the majority of

them have some experience of some object luminous

during his long period of the and normally

they they don't pass to a a a

community that could be divulged because because their

credibility as people even in this actually is

very affected and are people that because it's

their sustent no they can to talk to that. And is that I go, that's what happens actually but it's a year,

the same that happened with Pacheco, a pilot that decided to raise the voice and will be to know his vivences, is someone that's a person who is basically the opportunity to work in some moment

in something great or in or to start in something because it's marked for your life as a person false, a person a person a person fanatica

and as your credibility that's for the soil another case is the Carlos

Antonio of the Santos that also is a pilot no

has no he did to know in a

report the audio that he envio to the tower

of this case is very interesting because we

going to get a to when they visit the men of

his case was the 29 of May of 1975

I see and he report that he says in

a he was he was he was in his first

initial as pilot he revela that in his

in his aeronabe so he poses two objects volators to

both sides, and both the and he he'll observe

to front a third object and he has he got to

get to get to get to desperate even even is

a not a not something we don't be

on YouTube still there still there there there

many years after many after decided to make to

make a experimented. He Refleja that in his relato of that these entities, these objects, voleders, they pose in front of him and to his sides, and he

pierre completely the control of the plane, his apparatus not functioned. He has that desperation, obviously. Imagine to be flying at that altitude and that your avion, you know, respond and enter in desperation and start to contact to the Torre of Control.

Here is important that he he always he said that if not it was because two controllers

aeros of different companies detected in his radars those three objects

to him they were put down of a person that not a person that

not but thanks to the testimony of those people

he he conservo that credibility and that is what

is what that is that is the encounter that he

with the man of the after his encounter and the the part good

of the part of the part of that he has he has to that he

exactly exactly so not it so that he does

exactly and for example when we we talk

he he he refers that two several after

after after after suffered this incident he is

invited to some program of television for that he relate

his history and there is where he receives that contact

with these individual he he he he he

he he with his own his own that

he he did he did to the television to

where he went to he but in the way

to he he He was a new. He even He even he said that for the

opulence of that vehicle was a vehicle of a political or an ambassador but he

he relata that the vehicle is put down to his own vehicle and he

not a second vehicle he put just right and he

canh no there form of that he advance to

or to get to make to make until that he termine

detentient completely his vehicle what he relata is that he the first he's

something to do you do it but he's not even he does know

in the moment in the one of his and with his hand

he can't the door and he not and I'm

to say textual the words that he said

he said the he mucho if appreciates your life and the family

no you know you know he said he said he said and they

were all to the automobiles and he he he he decided not

not participate in this program so here I have I think I don't

you know the those women the men are they're like

an institution Occulta parallel to the government There is a debate A bit difficult difficult to talk of that time Because for to start Nothing

says that are completely Humanes. It's that there are That there are agents that are humans But there's the other part Of people that have They've had been

The Enquenchance that no They say is a characteristic that the people also describe her voice his voice

not is fluid not is human it's a voice like if it

was for an intelligence artificial or a voice

to a certain robotized have you have heard

that you is something that we have mentioned

that some like some different of the information

that you have you visit they if some

some some information very levy, for very small that

may be you visit are people people people people people

of the risk of the information that you have but

if you you have a evidence physical then then

you visit they other entities but what do

man they can they detien they they they

they they they private you they are only

they am I don't see, bus can call you I'm trying to I'm in you consider

that's depending on the information that you have to do you want to do you do you

know that's that you consider that they're not you should considering even there's even there's

even they're there are there many there are much people there are many if the

people want to enter to find in this type of things,

you know that there many people have been that have been

that casually they're there people for so say to another

word very very strange. It's a question because

basically Mexico is one of the countries with most indice

of mortality precisely for periodists. Well basically moment we

we're that these people because they're this acos to the

people that have proof about about any but there many

many are very cases that are very inconglusos and cases impactant

I know I know we know we're we're a lot of some some

I'm I'm a case where there is like a difference

with this type of entities where not are malas. At the contrary,

they're doing a benefit. Okay, okay. Here I can say that

experience, this relato that I'm to give, that motivated to this chapter, it was

for pure coincidencia. In the area where I'm normally we're normally we're a pass

of visit and we see what are the new increases, what are the

altas. In this occasion me took that we're seeing a new ingress. And we'll make a visit patient for patient. And had arrived to a patient new. Still, I don't me they've been presented to the intern. And we're

in the transcursor of presentar patients that are of those who are new increases. And in the part, those who have been in an hospital, you know that a less that's a hospital private, you don't have your own

your own your own you have to do you know, this person where they're a lot of

this person was in two camas contigues to the patient that we were not we're doing

that the internos did that those internes their and me allegee a little

to give their space and to enter them in confidence just I captured

a phrase that motivated my curiosity the phrase was, and textually talking, to my

Papa, also the visited the HOMBres of that was the phrase that me capted, that he captured, he called my

attention, and obviously is a patient new, no I'm going to get literally to talk of that. We pass

visit with him, me gave his diagnostics, his laboratoriesiales. It was a patient

that was going to be have been going to approximately three to five days, no.

That occasion no me took to keep to get to get to be in the night.

It was a moment where I took a because you know we didn't

we had to talk to that patient and the family and then I was

obviously I'm presented I'm the doctor so you still and I'm

already in car of guardia and I'm I'm I began to do a platica.

It was a patient, well, was stable, not, and he was to be a three, five days maximum.

And little to we started to talk about, I, with the intention, to get to get to

that phrase that had said. Because, because many people are, I've

said, I don't, I don't like that think they all me to think to me,

but for another or other motive, always terminate involved in this type of situations. This phenomenon Omni, in the personal,

represents something that has a certain impact personal in me. And it's something that, for my privacy, me going to reserve. But I was a testigo a few moments

before you initial? The motive is that it's a motive very personal involucer to people very close to me, are very

very and involve this phenomenon in a first person something.

Something in the classification would a how do you call contact of second

second second grade first grad for so that's so

and that and that a disculpa to to your to your

followers but that is something that I'm to reserve

for me but if Paco, he could give veracity

Yeah. Of that situation. Yeah, I was a testigo of when this person

you told you know, you want to you want to you want. You want? You're a problem?

I said, well. And, and so really the, how is the, the tone,

the form in how it's express the person or so is that this, so,

definitely you've lived that phenomenon. I don't the phenomenon paranormal, as people know,

as the phenomenon ovny. So, is the impressionate of this. Yeah, no is a form,

like I have said, to get a money or or something, but also we're not we're doing

about this information. Exactly, and that's all the time. And additional, I mean, I'll

also, I'm in the comments, and is that why it's that's the time the car,

why why he wants to get to get to get to say a see, he, this, the dog, not is a person

that create content, of the fact, I remember that in his moment I'd offer you, hey, why not create content? And I said, no, no, me interest. I'm a my chamba, and this is to communicate to the people, what really, really if it's really, but

that much is ignoran. So, I go, all the time me did you, my finality, no is create content. You do, do you do you, you do you, you do you, you do a form very professional, and

Yeah, Yeah, I mean, for my profession, I have certain ethics with the

patients, I can't give names, no I don't know that's type of situations.

But something that maybe I've commented, Paco, is that if I

would like in some future very long, maybe when they are my

last years of my present to a book. And before

that they didn't know, all we said, we wanted that you

wanted I want to have some benefit I'm going to clear to my first idea was to

make a book in a format digital that was a free for any for any person

that want to entertainers to learn but in this book I would like

to plasmar the evidence that for obvious reasons not can mention

but obviously maintaining the anonymat the anonymat of the people

some photos this type of situations and my first idea was to do it in a new cargaret for that any person that could

do you want to but I'm a friend that I've told some that he said he said oh yeah

you're going to invest you're going to want to you're going to try to get some benefit

before to me say they're I consider that is he has a reason but I

do it of form of that could be in a for example supponel a cost or

a dollar but that could be to be a association of beneficiary

the so the money would be directly to some association to

for example I would like much to help to the association of the

people who suffer in chemuras or some or the

patients who are some They're in terminals. So, of some that,

if I say, I don't in any money of all the world, if

100 people would get to get to buy, it would for me

to have contributed in some of those people. I know not,

not to be a benefit personal. So, you know when

you get to a a level of conscience that you know

you don't you're not much the merit no you're not much the

fame the glory you try more to find

the people really you need you do do

exactly no I don't I don't I don't

so this would in many many years but

I think I'm very seen from the point

of medical with probes, with resonances, a studious studies complete. Of the

actually I mentioned to a Paco one that I'm just a right of a case that will be

in that maybe, maybe could I would I would say it in other

moment because I think we're disbending much of the time.

I'm always sule so it doesn't happen when the podcast puts

his rumbo and it's the chido that much people like a we get in a

thing that we're going and ramificamos about more ideas and we're going but it's part of

continuing with the story of this person and passed two, three days, I was to

work of a night and I talked very well with him and I clarify

all his doubts of his pettisimient as how we we were to try

and how we were going to go going to get in Confianza.

If something I'm, if something of what I can be able to be proud of course, is that all my patients always have been much confidence in me. Okay. And honestly, if you go to a medic,

don't you occulting nothing, diganle whatever whatever has to be related to your infirmat, commentensel,

no, they're not, because it's a affect much the diagnostic and the treatment. With this patient,

I did a a good relation medic, patient, we got to have a confidence, and yeah

two days before we were to do to do this thing of the paranormal. We started experiences,

he told some things that he had been past that I, let me take the

answer, oh, what you what happened is that the other time that

I said, that you said, that your father you had visited those

women of negro. And yeah was like he changed a little to the car

because he he said obviously he's in his circle more sure,

not it's something that he does but then unfortunately with the few days

that we we're in contact he he was he decided to tell me the

relato of his father is a really very good the really

for all what he he he said oh yeah, no there's

a way like that your papa me could tell. And he me commento that his

his papa live here in the capital of Oaxaca like a about

a 45 minutes of the capital. Obviously to to maintain certain

anonymat we know where and I did the way I'm that I

found that I had a form that could I could do you

put down and he me said me did the direction and a number

of the telephone for that I could enter in contact I'll talk about

the person I asked if there was a possibility that he me relatara

that that for a mere curiosity it's a person is a

very very amable I said that no I didn't

any problem and we that I were to his house

to visit and that me to his relato

and so what I do to this person is a

he was he was a master okay he he's just a he he he he he relata that

a day working in his parcell of a bird an awegoet an

auebett a bejo great that was between his property and the property

of other person and what he wanted was put but that that

that that that he did he was that he was working

he put he made he and he he took the but at the

moment of the discovery discover that there there there

and terraces under under of that this arbor these

these basijas were of different times but there

were some that were very great but a

even that they were so great he said he said

that he's not because obviously you when you're

when you are not very common those videos of those videos and they

know and things but he is a master and he

knows that those metals desprend garsis that are not

not because are mortals exactly exactly and he

he did count that they were they were in the

sense in that they're with load and they're sealed to that form

very rustically what he did he did was that he set those four

basics and he did one or two and he he he was

he he had that he had a curiosity not to see what is

what they were in he he revealed that there

was a a little more or a like

a like a like a cubeta, no how they can understand

other people of other countries for to understand it's

like a harron of barrow. And he reflects well he

he says that in the most little when was

at the light of he felt that was that

was that he but when he sentia like

when you put the movement of the water. And if you let's to get to the

congelator and you can't see that change of density and you know

there's there and he he said when he was in the house that

that was that was that basica took that was a aspect like

so what was in the material changed exactly exactly and

that was what was what he made that was he was he was that

was that And he He was in contact With those basins And he was Cargues and they He was to

His house He put in So Covertiso that he He was That same That he

Desentero That was Visited by two Homes of Necro He He relata

That were Like 9, 10 of the night And they They took To turn

He He was only with his husband and one of his little of his

kids and he he record that they took to come to his

door he he opened and he found two people

he he related people people people and he

consider that were that even even we have

about the voice me because when I was

talking the report with the so obviously there

there is his voice I used more or so much so

I used one of those programs or of those filters if you want that you mechanized

the voice with intelligence artificial and he said they were exactly

there have to have to he has to he has more

to be more a life so yeah it's something

that is something there there there so there and

that other type of he he phrases written and was leger

a computer that's that's what he remember of them and he he

he remember that we're we're we're we're those objects

that's desentterr and there Paco there's that emphasis

for example we're talking that was in in a in a

place in a place in this then how how

they're how they enterer? He, the first that were the

of the doones of the terrain that he had, he had to do his

vicinance and at the most they had been left and for that they had had been

to reclam but he, he was he was to he was in his

part of his of his territory and he simply he simply he

said, if they they're they they're simply he relata

that these people they were and they didn't even didn't even didn't even they were

they said what is your price and he the first he was 10,000 the chiquita

20,000 30,000 and 40,000 without that's not, without, without

these people, these people are being these people, they were okay, well

no, they said okay, okay, you know, it's, okay, we're,

we're He said, textually what he recall. And he relata that the other

person that came to he separated and he went to in a

lapso like of five minutes with a with a a maletin that

he brought the money but the sir when he had had been

thinking in pesos Mexicans and the people he

brought dollars wow I don't see they multiplied

how many 10 times in that then. And this is what he completely he said, okay, what there is

that's, but I did this compromise with these people. And, well, simply he

gave it. Obviously, then a, a, a salary of a master, he,

his wife, he's a house, but even for a man of a master, but an salary,

then it can't, it can't live dignament. Yes. With this

little fortune, for so to say he could buy a

house to get a one of those four kids. Wow, well

imagine if it was a dollar so yeah so

until the he continued he continued in that

he said that he was they and still

he obtained he got a but he's what he

had that you think that could have been

because even I go, if were in vasigas, precisely could have been a omnis or

a thing, no, I don't know, that's, that's more of the hand with the

thing. No, for that they visit these entities, I think not have

nothing to have a thing. And how you did, that they detected,

they're, they're put here. Yeah. I considero, well, are some supposions me.

Inclusive, the sir concord with me that of some manner they

knew that that's that they were, that's they're they're and

when he was desentterrated they they're and they went to visiter.

And there is where they're like they evaluated the because they were to visit

to your domicio to the land to the where he obtained and obviously

there were there people there people in front a people living a lot and

they're found that to enter in a conflict in a

zone so abitated not was viable we're able and you think you

you think that really these agents are all the world? Yeah I consider

that they are all the world and unfortunately are those that are

those who are some information too sensitive you you

think there's a moment where I mean is that

if we we can to think we we're of the communication

where with your simple telephone you can communicate to more a million of people in various

platforms, for example TikTok, which is of the platforms where if you do you

doves something, impactante in one or two days gets to people

you think there will be a point where these in some moment

you have been too they're they're not we can we can

listen to I consider to a point where

the human is going to accept this, the phenomenon as a real. And I feel that in that moment is when it's when it's a great change in the mentality of the exact.

Inclusive the only the only fact where that is accepted officially, if we're going to to think in the implications religious, etikas that that

congeva, many religions, or one of two, or they adapt, or or it's exactly

because they're in contra of the ideology judo-christian that is the religion

that predomin in Mexico the Catholicism the christianism these religions abramanica

because they're if you just accepted the where we we're

to get in our Bible where we get us where we get us in which

they're incagated I think that if you have been another language

biblical, because the language of the Bible is more an more ambiguous, is more universal. I don't

we're going to find terms like navies extraterrestres. They've being being being being references a

bit strange. I don't see if you have you have done quite. Um, the fact,

there are religions that have been about this type of situations, but normally they're

like the books apocry. Apocry. The book of one of exactly.

That's an clear example of what I consider that I considerer that was a little bit of a mentality that they'd in this time. They were not

they'd understand nothing of, well, navs. They'd they'd ever be the interpretation of cars of fire. They didn't know what was, well, elevars to certain altars more than to go to the ceilos. As they said, no, I think it's Elias.

If I think that's Lies, the prophet that no, he's not, who is, he was, Elevado, no? Elevado, abducedo. I mean, it's a thing impressionant, my friend. Oye,

there's some other case that you guys of men of negr? Or you would like to pass

to another thing? Well, we'd let her if your public would be

to make a other part. Yeah, yeah, there's a point in the comments. The fact

we're trying to one of the things most impactants but tell me

then what you'd like to talk to I know that you're a world complete

of much mystery this really this this this this

this practice that we took for a planific this this

this this episode me I'm so when you when you

says what you this this this that I did you this

this is this carron well so so yes to

take there there there there even there even

that for another moment could we mention it because of really are many cases but also

remember we that this implic a risk it's correct it's not so easy divulgare this type

of things I think we're we're and the platform not beacken beanlo because

this type of capitul that talk in these things such are the risk of the

censura and is that I think if something to get to I'm going to say, I'm going to say the voice, pardon, for

all the other sides, I'm going to say, hey, what's going to do with this video? I don't say nothing malo. No, we'll show us, I go, well, if you're going to the politics, there are videos that

have information graphic, very explicit, and are in the red, so, but here, we're going to this little failure and very extraia,

uh, detail technical, just when we're talking about the censura. But we're going to the normal,

one of the things that I fascin and I can't. I know you know

you know of many people that have had been some some that I

would like to share here with the audience? I want to retomar the

that I did in an occasion when I did a time that you

do those the meacles those the miracles that

there there were some there a anecdote and then

in the commentaries that not he's heard much and

I'm going to talk but I'm a good good audio for

so say I'm well when when I was

I'm I'm know I know a one I was

there in the same school was with her no

and and durated all the car together all

the time that were in the time in the year of

internado were a nobios. In fact, they've formalized in

casers terminated their service social. Okay. But, but they

took in their services social in communities completely different and then they had.

To him he took in a region of Oaxaca that, well, we know

that for obvious reasons, we're going to say where but, but,

it's prepare the Tolovache. Yeah. Oh, okay. The Tollwache. Also, also called me as a water of calzone.

Exactly. In other countries, I've leased the comments also that say why in Mexico always pass in this type of situations more than other

countries. But record we that in Mexico we have a tradition cultural millennia. Apenas we pass the

festivities of the day of Murtos and in Mexico, if is the country more important

in question to this type of celebration. Sure. Recurred us rituals that we have done

as a altar of mortals that type of traditions that are in various parts of

the country and to don't the tomas of the people that's

there even in other states where also they're also

they do the people and conviving during those festivities not

for that you see in a form grotesque but like a

tradition millenaria that are customs that are being manage

with always with much respect well okay me

a bit but to them had talked his

service social in places completely different okay uh

well normally not there in that period of

time of service social but but if if they frequent

a little. But the good to first he turned

with his relationship. So, a despite that he

had a he he said, he he didn't

know to she was that she was and

she never not didn't know she she obviously

she obviously was to look and simply he

didn't he said she was she And, yeah, effectively, I was with another woman.

Yeah. Here, not is for sonar, well, discriminative, but, was, was a woman, yeah major, like,

of some 45 years. Wow. Well. Well, was, me did gortita. Yeah.

And, and, economically, because, the woman, as now she knows, not was a

sugar. Okay, okay, was a person, like, like the majority of us a person normal but he was

completely enamored he simply for him he, he he left to talk to his own his own

he simply he simply he wanted to get there in that region terminated his service he kept in

that place there he quissor and he he was he took to join with

that person he he he was between the 22 23

years approximately I was an person a person a young he doblee the age

the do you exactly but even he left to talk to his own his own his own

parents were to that they're to get in reason and that regressara because

there had a he had a but he not he didn't he said that was he was

he was he was he was he was he was he was after then then

obviously, in their social they were their photos together. He started to show

photos with with the woman. And, and then, we've kind of, no?

Well, something, something that I'm to make a that I'm that I'm to get to

and this she was they were they're on, came out of the business is

that I did the piece. No has much when me it was when me

it was to get to be for pure curiosity. He said, oh, what on? I'm,

what happened with this person? He's very enamored. And he me relata that he

not recordable that time that he had been in that region. So, like if

had had been had been exactly. Okay. He he said

that the few recalls that he was that she was that she always

every every days he'd give a always yeah

I said ohye this amort this tommate your tea initiate the time you don't you

don't you do you all the all the days all the and he he gotro a flavor

so that I said that I was like a necessity that if I know me

I'm yeah and and then and well as as

I'm like like I'm don't want this perspective

despective but Tewo much Swear He's known because this She died

during the pandemic He died of COVID Okay And so obviously he suffered much

But yeah Yeah, but yeah He tried to continue to prepare

his tea but he not was he was He was he was that

period when a person that is addicta has a syndrome of abstinence

he was he was living and And, well, when when that

that time of his life, he went to try to recover their relation, but this

chick was she was in other relationship. Tristently, then it was termino that way.

And precisely you could say that this woman was saying, I mean,

is that the concept water of the toulash is different. The water of

the water is a tea of herbs but in the water of calzone is

other another thing so he's he knows almost but if you

have a reason there is a region of by here where he's

where he is there is in the culture of the women that if

if if a man he is from it's and

it's so it's a so offensive offensive or

askeros, from a baby prepared where a remoja a preemned

to a baby that give fluid the fluid, the fluid that gets every month to

the women. So, so it really really there really there's

there's that's something that's sometimes that I have talked

this thing, it's me has been on Facebook me

passed furtis me infraction the video, me it's the person the man is

like if were a zombie. The people try to get in a person that's a person that doesn't

he's what he's what he's what he's he's not he's like if not they're

in his five sense it's very very rare yeah I'm sure

that someone commenter that he knows the case of someone that

he passed for the same. And if you you're a person I'm saying, I'm saying that I'm saying, that I know to someone who knows, that he knows, that he can

prepare, that's something, it's something, it's an endemic, for so, say. Yes. But it's something very very sad, because, I mean, no can't have anyone to have the force,

you know. It's a question quite complicated. Something with what you'd like to give you to this night, I mean, I've been

many times in this video, it's strange because normally we're we're We don't We don't parable until that

it's but have passed situations very rare because you think that's

that's that that's you know I'm as a time that

being a character that's a to the media is many

people people being you it's like a pararrows

so you you concentr that energy of certain

and But although I don't want, also when we we'll generate a little more of that that interest. Sure. For that's

concentra, that type of energies. It's correct. Herman, tremendous platic, we just about, we're saying,

I'm very I'm very grateful with all I'm sorry. I know so complicated that is at a time the

distance of where you is, that if you're there's, And here, I really, I thank you

very will be in a moment a quarter part or not there? Because have happened

things many these these last years that not you can't

comment to the people, I mean for questions of security

but have situations very situations very the public

he want to want to keep and they're respectful.

I mean, I don't to offend to anybody. I don't come to convince to nobody. But as

I'm going to this is something that's something that is something and, please, if you

if you were you would have in this type of situations, would be that not

a time of the that's a lot of that's but if your public

he would like that would would be that would again, well I don't

I'm going to put to because they're going to and I'm not going to ask

subcriptors because they're that I know you pay something but

but then you know not is my intention to obtain some something simply is

that the people simply is that and maybe to offer consoling for

some for certain situations that I've talked but if your

public decide. You thank you much, of real my friend, thank for your time,

thanks for giving us this chapter. The family you know that if you like,

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chapter. Passen a bonito. Until the the next. Bye.