EXTRA ANORMAL - 146 | Los Misterios de la Tierra Hueca y El fenómeno No Humano Ft Yohanan Diaz

Episode Date: January 6, 2024

En este episodio extraordinario, nos acompaña el experto en lo desconocido, Yohanan Díaz, para explorar los enigmas que rodean a nuestro propio planeta. Sumérgete en las teorías intrigantes sobre la existencia de una Tierra Hueca, un mundo subterráneo lleno de secretos asombrosos. Junto a Yohanan, desentrañaremos mitos, leyendas y evidencias que desafían nuestra comprensión convencional del planeta en el que vivimos. Además, exploraremos fenómenos no humanos que desafían toda explicación lógica. Desde avistamientos OVNI hasta encuentros con entidades inexplicables, este episodio promete llevarnos más allá de lo ordinario. ¿Qué opinas sobre la posibilidad de una Tierra Hueca y la presencia de fenómenos no humanos? ¡Déjanos tu comentario y únete a la conversación! No olvides suscribirte para no perderte futuras exploraciones de lo misterioso en Extra Anormal Podcast.PARA ENVIAR RELATOS Y COLABORACIONES AL SIGUIENTE CORREO: [e-mail] ....................................................................................................................................................... No se te olvide seguirnos en nuestras redes, aquí te las comparto: YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@extraanormalpodcast FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/podcastExtraAnormal INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/extra.anormal.podcast/ TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@extra.anormal.podcast .......................................................................................................................................................  

There are occasions in that I'm in the investigation Omni and, of a sudden, I'm in the other, wait, wait, in what moment? Yes, yeah. The line is so delgated. Yeah. That's alucinant. Here, not is to convince to nothing.

No, no, no. The phenomenon's paranormal are there, and they're just on the pendent of us. Just to, like, here, to our side. As soon, like, here, here, here. At the moment, nothing just that we're talking. All the world, when we have a mystery, we think

immediately or that's the devil or that's you're not know what you always? You have known

if it's a little oh it's of the devil if it's something they're more

men ah so are extraterrestres because because in the thing

of the extraterrestrestres or of the there are various hypotheses for

explain to those intraterrestes ultraterrestres extraterrestres seres of those

angels angels and and well a great a

grand a In the church has been preparing from since

60 years with the thing that in a moment an agency spatial say we've

found out of this is a important because many people say this so if this is true

and that that's that's right that's when it's when we're when we're when we're

when we're we're not we're exactly we're equalito to him and if in those

extraterres now what? No, we're prepared for the contract. What can happen? Imagine, you, that, that, that, that, back a one, a little, a new one,

more, with a disc, something big. And, of a moment, they're going to be able to do and that those beings are completely

distinct to us. We're going to be like a laratiga. We're going to suppose, reptilianus. They're a reptilian. But what

how do you appear in ones with form of a rae? And what can if they appear ones with a car of

perro. And what how do they appear in some like elephants? Or like poeos? A me

much people contact and me say, oh, is that the men are going to

get them, well, invite them, then you know, how do you come? I've been to get to

all these evidences. And what do you know, you know, let me ask you. Yeah, well,

yeah, it's that all day, this and this, but is okay he's okay and

I'm, and I'm why a Jaime Mausan no, don't know the

Homs of Negro to call them. Right. Why not have been with me to say, Johan, hey,

yeah, he, he, he, he he's not to be talking about about the marcians

and the messages and of the contactats. Yeah, cackiate. You know, Hello, how

How much How much? Bein'clock Extra Anormal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be here with all

you're very content because it's a occasion a really important special. Today, we're going to

we're going to we're going to talk? A good to thank you for the invitation and thanks for taking me in account for

this work tremendous that you are doing on social. Thank you. I'm very

content. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to get to see, we're going to

do you. I'm going to do you. So, family, before to start, I'm saying that you know

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don't expect to do the news we're going to get to start. Amid

before to start that you presentes with all the family of what you did you

do you theme of the Omnis, practically all my life. And when I think I go

all my life is from my life from the books, and then I went to

I'm involved in the programs of radio, television, now, redes social and well,

I'm going to a column from a year that has been with the question of the

mysterys in general, so questions panormals and questions also of the phenomenon of the

report to all my things I do Johannan Dias, participating in programs of radio, in programs of television at a level continental, like History Channel.

So, well, then there's always doing all what we most can't in about this information. Perfect. How can you can't find in the social,

asmugan Dias in Twitter, in Instagram, and YouTube, and in Facebook, me can't as you're going to be Johan Dias

official. Okay. I thank you much much, Yujanan. I'm the really I'm doing because this is

one of the where the place is with a person expert. I mean, a life dedicated to

the time of the investigation is impressionate. A few a few of times we don't know

a life complete to this world. But I have a question for you. You do you

think in the thing paranormal? Yes. Look, I can say, well,

the response is yes. Okay, let me, let me see, because if no, me see,

do you, do, of the investigation Omni or parallel I'm I'm put into

with the transcommunication instrumental which is a travel of certain mechanisms electronic,

try to obtain voices that would get to get a more

so so that I started I'm I'm I'm I'm

at the university I was in the time I was I'm at the

university I came to son to senar me abocable

to this practice of the transcommunication instrumental. In some moment, you top of something that had deigned to the pen? Yes, because after a time, I mean, I documented

much. Unfortunately, I've the opportunity to interview to the principal investigators at the level international about that. Wow.

So, I'm talking of characters that in those then were punted of lances, sacabal books, they'd much, like Raymond Moody,

Brian Weiss, of Pedro Amuroz Aola Giovetti of Italy characters that in that moment were as a point of the lance of the investigation paranormal and in Mexico

was encountered the matrimonio Drey. The matrimonio in Latin America were those who were the spectro of the communication with the mass through the transcommunication

instrumental so I was I'd get very well with them those interviews and then unfortunately thanks to the

interviews to the the books, to the revists that I was reading I'm interested. And I did and I'm going to prove to see if it's certain

because one one thing is that you do it and other thing that's true and believe it because the thing

paranormal is it's pretty too, they're chied in the stories but but I don't think it's

true. Sure. We always we have that point where we don't we're saying even people

of high credibility but when you you do you practice, yeah when you you're in the scenario,

yeah when you have you have done the information and you're receiving information of the more than

you say, wait, wait, and it's that's where a promise of the thing paranormal

not is to convince to nobody. There's there. There's exactly. And you

mentioned about minutes after before the interview that when I go to investigate in

the time of the omnis, well I go by those extraterrestres. Sure,

no. Series that They come from other planets. No. There are occasions in that I'm in the investigation Omni and, of a sudden, I'm in the other, wait, wait. In what moment?

Yes, yeah. The line is so, the line is so delgated, that is an hallucinant. But if you don't you know, then you can't take to context the casuistic.

Okay. Because here, I've learned something really important. The issue is that when the person really in the issue paranormal

and is that living an experience Omnick, it's a relationship and it's and vice versa. If the

people believe much and has read much about the theme of the omnis and extraterrestres

and if he's occurring to do the interpretation of extraterrestraiser. It's something

interesting this and it's there when one's when one's going to know you mean it's

to convince to know no, the phenomena those phenomena paranormal are there and they

are very all pendient of us just to here to here to here here at the moment

nothing more that we're just the situation. I've talked with people who have written

stories, even I've charlado with some where they say, Paco, what is?

Is paranormal or is Omni? Because I don't think I'm what I'm saying and I'm and I'm saying,

it's that's a person, a person, me said something and I kept with a doubt, me said that

he said the I mean, I was not focused on one solo, but a occasion he and his little, he had them solos for

periods long. He was the brother. So, he had between 13, 14 years, he had gone solos in

a house, his brother of five, six, and there moments where were the night

solos. His, his mom confia much in him. But he he had a moment

where his little decided to have a dream very rare. Describia a entity

that was a lot of his room that had like a face it, he had like a

face of a big typical extraterrestre cabsone of eyes but that had extremities

rareas or something paranormal or something but the characteristic of a gris then

he said that he never did his case but but a occasion even

his papas said and me he he he he he

he he's in the light so you get in the light he says

he's my brother he's why he the light the the the problem

when he opened the no the light of the light

was the light and he he no me he's

he's that he was not a was a

was cylindrical, no I saw and began to hear the room and I said I felt

I thought because I thought someone came out of the house we're probably they're

they're or something he's he gets to come and he he doesn't the

room of the room that there was something that was a

really very peculiar open the door of space

and is where he's where he's really what his brother,

sonnable not was a dream. He described the same that he said a man, a lot of

a woman, like a big, like, like, of a gris, but, completely

blank, extremities very long, that when he does get a that's being

seen, this, it's like, it's seen the aros that are

like, like, so, and it and it's a, he's, he's

go, and he's he's, and he the demon I just to what is

what is that. And he said, and what is? So, his rostro is how it's like it's, in the movies, in the series, in all parts. Oh, alienigena, the light, but no I didn't have, like, the

physiognomia, how so, that are, so, that are little, not are so, and they say, what is, Paco? I said, well, is it, I don't know. No, I don't know. Sure. Much of the times, no, we can't give to give.

And it's so bizarre, and And there are Tantal that one you know there's a well, Chalels,

who's, who's who's but there there's a testimony. And the fact of that

we're not we're not going to the person or the person, the general, not mean

to say that's not, but a long of the time, for that's important

the investigation so of the phenomenon and of the paranormal, because it's there when we know we're

classificing the type of experience, what was what was what lived the person, what was

what referred and received message, if not received, well, and those we're going classifying,

and then we're going to and then this process you're going to get a lot of a life. And is that

the line is so it's a line that the only that the only that I've seen that is with the

rancho skin Volker, no si's in some moment you let's you know, you know, you can

you can't give a much more more than what is what is what's what happens where much

energy investigators of diverse companies private have been there universities and well, they have grabbed

a can't impressive of documentaries, series of television, of phenomena and phenomena of the omnis. We'll get to

the point. There's what you want to do you want to do that you want to be the Rancho

is the part where the companies of high technology have been in the place, have investigated,

have been things and they're doing now for the are doing. Okay.

It's so that this rancho that's mysterious and that there are vistamints of

opni, ports dimensional, subidates of energy that know where,

spectros, things that are in the not, objects that they're there

all. So, there all. We're We're we're not, we're very

very very similar where so it's practically the same. The only only difference

that he has much diffusion, there are there have many money that

have That's that they're in their moment and who who bought is one of the men

more of the people from the world from from the things military. It's just imagineate.

Wow. That you're being they're doing how they're doing what they have done for questions

technologics. That could be able to do you know is that is that is a very extrano

because it's something that any person that is doing this is that is that is incredible

so really how you going to to invest so money these companies, those

emperiors in a rancho where they're going to tell stories

but at that's stories not so not these stories but they're

actually they're I remember in the moment when we about the rancho

that there had people who had had he

people and the people there had letters for all

different people there and he had all and they

said well what what what what what what

what what No, this family I don't recall the name that is the father that is a testigo of how the

perro is going to see him and the papa, and he's like the perrito simply did

a gritty. At the day the next he's going to his perro and he's going to go back

on where there's where there these herbs and he's done that you know,

that's going to go past where these gerbittes are like like these but not doblas

for someone or carted no, they're in a cold. Calor. And the more he's going

to get into the bosque, he's going to be able to his perr. And the perrower

like if had been in a place where did so moustras of fire and the

place where it was there were in the jervas all over so so that

could have been been Look, this that's telling me

remember much what we've lived in the area in the zone of the area of

the state of the state of the Republic Mexican. The people are they're

that in moments when they get to get to get to happen,

people, people, men, men, and the people, and what they're

the attention to them are the people, you're going and it's like a tal.

So, the polvillo is to get to and you're going to to insuciar the

and the the rope that you're and in this case no. They're completely limpions

advance, they're going with the person, what you do? No, I'm terminated the

gasoline. No, it's a no, I don't know, no, I'm know, well,

let's be there, and surely you're going to go back or get to get to here and

get to get to get to turn. Voltean to see and they don't

they're They're not. They're called the famous Ceres of the Remanddad Black. Those are

those goodados or the chidillos. Now we're going to the part negative. Okay.

They're in this same place. They're some balls that the localeons the time

can be of a ballon of football, of a ball of baseball and that and that end in the

other. Not you you can't to get to those to those ballas of

those opaca. It's a light that not illuminate. You say, a bit,

a lot will illuminate. It's a light. It's a light. It's a lot of what is

here. No, it's a light opaca. I when I heard that I remember much the

stories that there in all the world of the lights or the luses malas. The

lights when you're you're you're coming, and apart that they can't they're

they're some sequels in your body, that you're going to conviv with you

all your life. And if not the libra, well, then it's well, just there's but this is important because

we know that there are places where are constant these avistamient of these spheres malas, of these beings, and

you comment to something that occurred to me, the first occasion that I was in the zone of the silence.

A through the Jojneros, that is my community, a trade social, we're almost

70 people that were the first time to the first time to the silence. So,

then me invited the municipality of the president municipal

to re-inaguer the zone touristic of the area of the area. So, well, I

went, I was hallucinating, the zone of the silence, much mysteries,

many, many, many, many, I'm I'm we got us there all

a night and the where we we were in about a 20 meters I,

I saw you remember the those foes those of some of the ones that were the old of the old

of the I mean there's a there's a there's a there's a there a there's a

there's a car or a a house no normal the normal so then

I was talking with the we're we're we're we're going to we're

and the day the next yeah started the campment and the

day the next the next I'm a more people and then

I'm a lot of the and I'm going to let's we're going to because I'm that the

and I'm and I'm saying and I'm saying what's I'm saying there's there's a there's a

there's a there's a there's a there you know a foe what foe and I'm and I

go and I but if no there but I'm but I'm so I'm all we We all right

It was a Opaca How is a loose Opaca? It was a light that you know

you know you know you know but you know it's that is illuminating neither the

no the world and the light there was when I think the famous light

opaca because when they said to me it's a light it's a light

is light and the light expand and it is it's that no It's the

opacca and if you you look you know you know you know and the people

you know so you know so when I see the light apaca that was the I think like the

I think of the end of the first I was I'm I'm just we're just we're saying

no let's come come come for you come back so I'm see if you see me

they're saying that yeah because much in the investigation everyone and I'm going to take photos and I'm going to know it's true

no, that's true. In the life real, that's not, because you know, you know, you know if that'ser to do you can't do a year. No, you know if you can't perjudicate to you and to the and those that are with you. So, it's something

that's something that I'm to have to be very people people who say, Quidado, not you don't you ask, because there's problems. That's what you say, me record a much

and I'm going to talk to the context but only to make clear that part that me impact much.

The people say, Paco, I don't believe the brus that's chupin'

men. Here's a history fantastic. But be to a place of the Sierra

Mija of Oaxaca Veta a lobes where for example Samudio was to investigate

and I go and and askate and tell they they this is a drama Date

to tell the seriousness that they're that they they're that they no is

something. For them, for them. But for you is, what a fear of the child.

A lot of the unbarasada because there are cases very faredes. So, as you know says,

the same localeons they're on what you can't you can't you know, in my

case, in my case, I'm doing, I'm doing I'm saying the recommendations that I do, but

look, and you put to these lights, when we when we after

of that February of 2019 that us invited to do the inauguration of the

zone touristic. We've been an can't impressive of times and I'm

and I'm going to be in the place, we're going to happen things really times. I think it's a matter

more, more, less. We're going as far as us, and we're going to see, no you know.

So, then when we're the light, says, oh, there comes the community. Because the

people we're doing to a group of the people of people people pass to us get them.

Although it's the desert, but are some of the contas with the, with the families that

live in the interior of the desert, but there's people who are there's a good, oh, that's

good on the food. And 15 minutes after the food, no, then it's, no,

but there there's there there's, there's a way, you know, and I think that at

a few meters, 150 meters, to where's the light's the light's

there's observing us. Well, it would be that they're observing, be in the morning,

be in the night, or be in the night. So when we're not we're in a person

to the question, my first recommendation. The first if you see the the lights,

no, you're and if you're very close to her, let her pass.

She's she's going to get to get to and to get to get to

but they're going to but if you the molestas. Oh, that me

record much to the ballas in the part of the part of the part of

the world of the world of the that's that's but the thing

the zone of the silence I mean I saw a video I saw a

creator of a many years but what is the

mystery that you know so what what what

so what so in this zone in this zone in the

triangle of the Bermudus is another is a supermement mysterious where the person

or the persons have lived is that supposedly atraviesan the time of space and get in a place completely like if it was another plan and many people

there's a testimony of the one of the one of a man that was there and he saw a lot of a lot of avions

caravere's of people of people so that this are in these zones geographic a high content of energy that maybe

we're not we're going to understand we're at a better apertures spacetorals maybe a

really a base of serrestres or maybe and why not think it, of the stars, that are in

the interior of the world. All of when we have a mystery we think immediately

or that's the devil or that are you're not know you? You've made always?

If it's something if it's something. If it's something are extraterrestres. Why? Dentro of the

term of the extraterrestres or of the theme there are various hypotheses to explain it. The intraterrestres ultra-terrestres,

extraterrestres, Ceres of Lus, seres angelical, and, well, a lot of a game that's a tremendous. But the

majority of people think that just a thing of the Omnis, that is the that are the

other planet. It's so. States Unites, a through the disclassifications that has done in the last few months there are documents

where they say they're not coming they're of other dimension documents official and you're saying well if they're reprotating it's

for something I don't not you're talking a time Johanan that I was I was up to proponet

but you know it took after the earth whewka exactly the area that year that year

that has fascinated and I was I'm studying because I said in a moment I'm going to talk about this in the

podcast and look at the moment no manches it's incredible because it's something that it's something that are the

series, the movies of a way that a fun that's a what the people

don't know is the studios, the tribos that there were a tribe in Brazil and in

Venezuela me it's, that they'd get them to a part of the earth

subterrani where they said there were those I remember the people they said the

those giants or the those they gave offrendas and the only promise

that they had to do they they were they're they're they're they're

they're they're two days or two seven times normally not I'm they're

they're they're they said they're they're caverns, caverns, and they're like a zone type of tropical,

arboles, and more cavernas, and more caverns for more days, until they get to, like, as you're, in the exterior. You see, abes, and even there are theories and hypotheses, that even

dinosaurs, and that's this sun, that works like the nucleus, or something that's, you know, it's a little bit, or a tonality verdos, and look, that's super-interested all of what has to be

with the world inter-terrenno because at a lot of different philosophies about all of Asia, that is the

major information that we have been in international, we have Chambala, agarta in Mexico, we have the

Cerro of Culiacan in Guant, where it's an entry to an inter-terren we have seen in Capilla

in the Argentina and so there's there are in all the world, to where we go to

this information that is that would Aseurrary that the interior of the earth there's a

and that's a energy that's very very similar to our sun that's all the day. A tonalidad

verdosa, that's that tonalid verdoza, according some of the philosophies most important

of Asia, mention that regenerate the and that all the thing that's going to be regenerating.

In the other, we're in the surface we're going and we don't it

that you do you get a 40 years and you can't No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no is that, but it's a lot of, in your organism.

It's like, that in you, it's going to be to be able to get in time. During the Second World War, Hitler and the Nenerbe, that was like a university encargated to investigate the mysteries at a level international, they gave a segment

to those philosophies of Asia, where they tried to enter to Garta, to Shambala, and to talk with the famous rei of the world, because it's secure in those traditions

that the planet has a rey that the prophecy that they mention that one day will be that when the things over the

surface of the earth are incontrolable he will resurgirate and will be and he will say I'm the king of this

planet is a sure that is a person of Venus others mentionan that would

say someone that's it's extraterrestre because no it's dead in the the earth but it's

there in those worlds subtiles. Many people try and always

want to see it's something but really not not a physical because

those these same traditions they're in other dimension in other plan,

in other subtile of the reality. But we we're we're not exist

or not exist? There are the there's the testigos where

you can you can can of the investigations that he did Adolfo when they

used the famous Fuerreel when at the finales of the century 19 came in

Europe a novel initiatic that's called the Rasa Futura that that that rasa

future allented to many generations to look the world interterrenos

and it got very in the people that I rodea Adolf

Hitler then they were to look the Fours Abry. The

Fuerer according this novel. Mentiona of an entry where acceded to a

world interterrenno where there many many people and that they were a species

of barita that could alterer the matter the the peterra

the plant or so all what he could modify all

and all it and at interior they they were they they were

they were a world tremendous gigantic gigantic there inside, it was like

if we were in the surface. And they're then the Nazis were in the issue to get back to this issue

because it was sure that he's sure about that who can't have to control the Puerza Abil

will be what necessary and will control the planet the planet to be completely.

So they they were much to and then there's there's of the world interterrano because everyone

wants a benefit. We're going to we're going. We're going. And is that precisely I remember much the testimonies

of persons that have seen platyos volators or these ovaries that some don't go and some

like they're like they're and they're we're not we're saying we're talking then so that we're just

not so that some of them some don't not all those some some don't they're some

they're not and this me It sounds much also I don't see if in

a moment I've heard about that the of the moon is whewka

yeah I don't see there's there there's a question what you

did it what you did to do a life to do this

I know I think when I'm called the attention

for what why what I know I I

know I I'm it was in the decade of 90

when was the more further in my process of to continue

knowing this. I remember that I'm my little bit of my little bit of

because in those of the new no had. I said to know that there's

three, four titles, but then you had those of the old, you know,

you're back, you know, so I'm, so I'm the same, and I had the

three, four books, depending how and I had the economy. And yeah,

we got to house, I really I really, I devorable the books. And many of them

even I was even though I'm so I'm pap, pap, I'm, you can't buy other other books?

But how? He's to learn those? Yeah? That you do you know, but is that I was that

I grabbed the books and me started to ask you. So, man. So, then there was that,

that, that me involucer much. But why because, maybe for an answer if really

exist in the extraterrestres and of the phenomena paranormal is that also I'm much literature was to find

also a question to the end of that we're not we're but I remember that when I was

about this in my family I said you're going to you're going to go back no no

let's for you or with my my friends in the school me say

no yeah well this is the rarito and really one live a bullying tremendous.

A discrimination tremendous. But as well as conformed going to pass the time, there's more information and

all, the time are changing and this is going to be modificing. But I think what the most part of

these moments is the encounter a response and he ohhala a day I have the

opportunity to interview to an extraterrester that that's that's the same

meta that I have to interview an award to interview a while. I'm

Many people Yeah, and many people So, hey, we're talking to a person that's a imagine a form physical, but

that in person I said, I'm sure that the day that's a word, I'm going to have a doctor of

a language because it's a person that's a better, but that's my dream.

Imagineate. Ria, so, the better if you want, but I have a to be.

You're going to get to get, I'm sure of it, because it's a life, and in

your case and in the my that we give to these thematics, and I think one day they're going to

say, there's a maybe in the last minutes of life, that's sure that is what going to happen to be going to be

to be able to be there. And I'm going to go to this world with that idea of that all what I did that all

what I did I, and all of what I'm really, he said and concrete and that I could corroborate.

Although it's in the last few seconds. No, and let me say to a little no,

I think to demores until time. Because what I've been observing what has been happening in the year

a part of 2020, 21, 22, 23. It's an incremental. It's something.

It's a brutal, something brutal, something that's, so the amount of in enhambres

in, so it's something what's what's the time that's in the

time in the United, in these Congress, so many people feel yeah that this

time, I know when it's they've been to raros to the people that they're saying yeah is this cabro

knows something and yeah there's this tension for part not only only the media antivus

that you do you you're testigo before an I know a no see a periodic or an

noticier a great time of great prestige no he was going to do this

really the people that were really the people even even their personality

so those future the work but today is the theme that in the book

of all. The history changed. Really, the history came, thanks to all the

disclassification of documents of the United, when we see to different the

union American, to the congressists, talking about the story changed.

The history changed because the society has done that is a thing real, that is a

thing authentic and that the country the country more can do an

explanation, but it shows videos, testimonials, and you know what you implicate, it's allucinant. So, then has changed the perspective. Now, there's a year, this year

was the audience public in the States United, where he spoke of rest of entities no-humanas, or biologics, and we're also the rest of the obnies, or the objects voledores an un-humal, no, because now has changed the manner in that we have to nombrough.

And we've seen that, before, the effect dominoe was in Mexico with two audience of the hand of Jaime Mausanne and all

what he has present. And the next year we're we're other

other countries of Latin America also that they're doing

so that's so society and those politicians so

they say then that we're not we're opening

those politicians are being and all we're in that

we're in the something we're something we're important and something

that has been and it's something for that is more easy

to get to get this this grand thing. I have a question for you, I'm a person

expert like you what is your position when you when you're when you and the other you have to

the other you've got to the other you've got to be a moment, a conclusion about these two mousos. spatial, say,

we've encountered life. They're they've been preparing. No, it's to be right. And they

each year, until the pandemic, between the month of November and December, organized an

congress with the experts most important at the international of astrophic, astrobiology, astronomy,

in fin, that they're that they're going to be to see, to be positioning to the church.

This is a important. Because, because many say, if this is true and that that's going to be back, what's what's going to

when they're going to when they're saying when they're that the only we're not, that Godito us is equalitos to him, and

well, and if they're in some extra-terres now what? They're they're completely different to us to us.

But I think they're going they're working since much time. A lot of before in back profile,

but they're being doing. So, so it's people very serious that

that they're religious have a doctorate well, no one, various doctorate to

one of the personalities that are in those congresses that are to represent and that

the church and the church the church catholic is the one of two

of those of the observatories most of the world and you don't

then they're they're they're to you want to you want to

if this in some moment yeah the contacto yeah where

where you think you they What do you look in to do, now see, the credibility, the non-fieless, or what you think, what you think,

is there in some that's, in a moment, that's... Look, to be able to that you get in the extraterrestes for that's said to all this,

that's said, solitos, they're doing the feet. They're solitus. And in second, I think that what will

occur is that in some moment it will be to be able more by part of the church, the recognize

that we're not we're the people, the moment of the history, they're completely

seged to the reality when more when they negated that our planet was, because

they said that we're we're doing, we're doing, we're in then so they get an extraterrestres and they

have two feet and two arms or how they're they're going to say is oh, well we're

we're we're not we're they're also they're having to visit to people of

the church in Mexico and they they've been said, well when when I'm going to what I'm going to

what I'm going to what I'm going to immediately baptize to know if no it's of the okay okay okay so yeah

it's okay yeah it's like oh yeah yeah don't do you no no no no but

but look me call the attention that the papas have been set sensibilized with the theme of the

omnis and the extraterrestres that's very important Juan 23 me look Juan 23 exactly I think is the

case the case most known or the that's the He has given more publicity when in the

gardens veranegos of Castelgandolf was the assessor papal and they're a second they're in a

question, and during 15 minutes the Papa is talking with a light that there's

a piece of light and that had the ears pundiagudas that was what was the most

he called the man he's the person and there the issue we're not to have other

characters that have been in contact with the principal contacted of Europe, contact those

with extraterrestres. And if we're more recent, we know, we know to have a Juan

Pablo Second, that he was all what he had to do the issue of

the omnis and the extraterrestres and even Fidel Castro. Okay.

This is a data very interesting when the Papa does a Baja a Baja

official. Fidel He castro, he had seminal, in the periodico Granma, a column. And in that column, he was about questions of international, politics, of all. But in that occasion, in 1998, about the theme of the extraterrestres. And mentioned, of how many had aborted the theme of the omnis and the extraterrestres with Juan Pablo II and his comitiva.

And you say, and all right. And you have to record also that the pap, Juan Pablo, Second, had a, a, a, a, uh, that he informed a

saint and a of the time of the non-identified and that even Monseigneur Corrado Valducci, he, he,

he, had the authorization papal, to be present in conferences or in Congresses of the theme

of the non-identified. Now, we've been more recent with the actual Papa. Intro of

the investigations that I did, that I'm that I'm that I'm that the Papa Francisco,

when was in the Argentina, had reunions with the principal investigators of the Argentina, investigators of the theme of the omnis. They were tertulias that were a day for the time

and the day of the day next, very tempran. And while, he had a class political, some of the actors or actresses most famous,

they were turtulias where they were about the extraterrestres, they were onies, but, over all, the theme principal of the Papa

were the prophecies of Benjamin Solari Paravichini. that he, there is a part of all what he did to know how he had to confront the church a Catholic for the century 21.

And the principal recommendation to sack a church to the church to the case. These three things were the important. When he gets the Papa to the

cell of San Pedro, we know that many of the first comments that did make a reference to the Prophesies of Benjamin Soler and Paravichini

and then he began to talk of Ceres extraterrestres, of that we're not the only ones, that we're part of a grand total and he'd give a santo and when he asked them the periodists

that not were periodists specialized no, they're periodists of politics or of the moda or of questions of the heart, that of a repent, they were and he, very amable, always contested and always had the part of the

extraterrests. Because we, because we have a Papa that's sensibilized civilized with the information, but that no do they do more important, clear, or no less important. And the Papa, in the last years, he's interviewed with contactals of the Argentina,

contacted with extraterrestres that have gotten to the Vatican, that have talked to extraterrestres, and I told you, when I'm into all this, I did seemient, and I came, and me toped with a Parenthood, because many of those persons

me said, so, like, so. I'm just, I asked, is certain? There were reunions and there was this, this? I said,

well, why don't me talk? No, we can't talk of this thing. No, you can't grab.

No, you can't mention my name, nothing. I go, but why? Yes. Because in

a moment, when he was elected to Papa, someone of the church in the Argentina, he,

who knew had been participating. It's what to me refer, so, So,

so, I said, someone of the church called and he said, that for

a more to the papa, and to help him, we had to keep silence

about this thematic. But why? At the the more, because in that moment not was

not very seen the thing of the time of the omnis. Right, right, yeah,

it's more public, yeah, the people is more conscientized, but in those

then then, no. Oye, what, what, what, And it's that this suede much

even with the same government of the United that is a secret to voice is the fact of the fact that exist to the

disclassification of the archivos you say, but I'll give to know what they want to know that you know,

not more, not more, no more, no more, what to them there's interest. There's a mytho

that's to get to the fact of to be real and I'm an opinion of an expert,

the area 591. Oh, carosinant theme. That says that have rest of humans, pardon of the rest of non-humans,

that have resists of technology, that the technology is not occupying the inverser, occupying even in dispositions that we use in the day-a-day? What on does with all this? Look, it's a lot ofusinant, a thing that during

many decades was negated by the authorities of the States of the United, always they were never, no, this is certain, no, this is certain, no exists, no we don't have any

reference, none, nothing, but it was the moment in that even or Presidents of the States Unites, they were

reference to the Area 51. And what we know for some of the people who have gone

more there's the investigation of that effectively are the rest of the omnis

that have been that's been that's been in some in the United,

and there is an area more secret in the area 51 that is the area S4.

The area S4 is where is where is where That technology of no-humana, but also the rest of the beings that have encountered,

yeah, either at the interior or around of the strenuements. This comes very with many conspirations that a long of the history has been about of the States and of its vinclusive

and the interchamble technological that there between the extraterrestre and us. But, also, at the date, we know that is a base military where there is high technology that

technology that we don't know we're that's experimenting there's there's training for that

technology with certain people is a thing is a technologyically and that has been

to be resguarded and that would be that representaria in quite to the

security national of the United. That's is what we're that we're

there are many many stories tremendous not of the area 501 well

is that something I've made the attention for much time is how they're those installations even kilometers

before to get in the bare base is prohibited to get a camera to fly, drones, I mean, even there

even there's letters that if you put a resistance and you put a pie into and you and you can deten

no, I think are three months or I don't know but they're the problem is I think there a letterer that if you

do you make a case my so you can use the arm I mean, but all this generates these doubts

of why how much he's an exagerated, even I don't know how much meters and they're in

you know you can't see, you know, all this all along of the history of the

phenomenon in the US that is Bob Lazzar he he assured that during

much time that he he saw that he saw retroengineeria the retroingeria would that you

obtaines an algo and of that you you do replicas and it's going to function exactly

equal. So that retroengineeria would a part of what have been obtained and of what has recovered

of present beings extraterrestres applying it now to the questions bellicas that you

know that basically the technology is going to apply for questions of the war.

So during years he he said, he said, I was the area very protected take care

and they can't enter and us did santo and sign all the radiographia practically

of what there was there. Nobody he grew you. But to the light of

what he has said we know now in the part of the States we know

we never minted. He never minty he said always the truth. And this

thanks to the last audience that did in the States where where he talked

to this thematic so we know that we to appear, really the United

and that you know they're the rest of non-humans and have the rest of these artifacts in what

they're in what they have done so they're to do this to come to the jurors the jurors

that they're those pilots, a, a, a, a time very delicate.

But you personally, Johan, you think, that really the government of the United

is is occupant your technology, yeah he's implementing even from from a cell phone? It's sure

there are some ex-militaries that assuring that the States has implemented yeah, we use the rail laser.

So the ray of laser. It's one of the most the main that's the technology, in what it's

what you're but, but I think I consider that much of those advances. If you you're just

count, after the after the decade of the 40, 50, the,

as we're going to have a great, tremendous. In one, a decade to another,

we're advanced, we're advanced, we're much. And you say,

it's, that curious that had been after the strayment of these omis,

and that make a reference to that much of the technology that we use

we've came or it's so it's so, then at the most, and if they're right, is that

is that, when you're doing it, so when unes and you start, the call you do you have

done for much time, the thing, the way, how is that these years to these years, and curiously

is when it's when it's the thing that they're to guard and to silence people,

because this is going to get a interesting, but we let him a little more

but we're going to the time omni as so it's it's all and many people

and much people just to talk. But I think what's going to the day that this dey to be a secret to voices or simply a theme of

conversation and a day simply start present. They're showing. What do you think you're going to pass with the humanity? We're not. We're not. When I've made this question and I'll answer this. I'm going to ask you. We're

prepared. I've been a a quantity impressive because me said, how is possible if you have a

life investigating that you're prepared? I'm prepared. And I'm going to put an example. In that

first time that I said when we took it was in the zone, from the time I said to all the

people of my community, to all the Johaneros and they said, oh, you're prepared for the

contact? Because this night you go to do you goomian? Yeah. And they said,

well, record, that when when they when they when they The first interview is with me. No, so let's forget.

Ah, ha, ha. They're a drama. Yeah. It's a night. We're in the desert. When we're going to the desert, 40 kilometers in the redondah, no other being other man more than us.

No, there's more. And, well, so we were there. The Luganians were talking to their stories, the visitations, the encentments, the beings of these of the

Remandth, and after of them were, well, there were the dunes, some of dunes of silicio. But it's like polvito. It's like talco. The tariffita is like,

like talco. And, of a sudden they started to illuminate. So, for monticulo, he's prendy to this, and then?

I said, who's, who's, who are you? For what? They're not a lot. Nobody.

So, it was a light very tenue, so a light between black and a blue, like when

there's a little, it was a tonality, but that day or that night not not was

the moon that? No, it was they're to illuminate and the people

out of going to gritting, grottos not they did what there. I mean

I did that that the people that's prepared for the contact

no we're not we don't we're prepared for the contact

what what can imagine you imagineate you that that that goes

a a one a more with a form of disc. Albuquer, a lot of d'allis, a lot of thing enormous. A lot of two kilometers. It's an example,

to, as a matter of two kilometers as they're referring, and in the, into the casuistic of the ovnis at the level international, are in the case. So, no we're not going to be about.

Two kilometers. Algo. Algo. And, of a repent, they're going to begin to be sure the beings, and that those are completely

distinct to us. We're going to put that they're like a lagartige. We're going to superer. Reptilianos. They're reptilian. But what

how do if they appear in us with form of a rae? And what if they're with a

car of perro? And what how do you like like elephants? Or like poeos?

The verlo, that has two two arms, I think that's

very much. And this me remit to another example basic. What happens when we

we're going in the car and we're in the banqueta coming and we

we see of a person that is a person who is going to

maybe a maybe come to be or something or something and it's really the first

the first reaction of us is pass to the other side, the other side, to the

other now imagine then so now imagine you know, I'm critiqued because it's possible and

you say, we're doing we're doing we're we're prepared, and to say to us that the and to talk to and give to know

the casuistic real and authentic of the phenomenon or not being not going to the real. And with that more than sufficient

the people will understand. Now, everyone thinks that the extraterrestreys are good, bonito, bondadosos

and that they're all they're all we want to contact with them. In the real, that doesn't know

because there are cases where those sers or where those ovnis have attacked to the

and they've been a lot of and have been left and many of them I've heard of this time we're about the rest of

navies this means this is Johanan that there are races that are physical or existen races that

are more more like asensias spirits of all of all from from the

physical as like physical that have the naves that are no if they are

of metal or of what they're or of what they're in, but physical, and the and the other part that you mention a day of other, yeah, of others. If you let's ask a something, let's attack,

and it's, exactly. No they're doing. A lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's all. For that you mentioned about that into the theme of the omnis,

there's the hypothesis of the interterrestres, extraterrestres, ultraterrestres, and Ceres and Ceres de-Lus. So, so the two firsts

are like the physical, yeah the ultra-terrestres can be some physical, but they're being able to

portals to be able to get ridgions and the beings, and the not, no, no, no, not Ceres

of a bomb- or a foe no, but not, but it not, but it's material,

but it's a conscience, it's intelligent, they're there. Oh, so impressive I was an moment, I began to realize a little your social and I saw some videos

of the Crop Circus. What do you think about this? Why do you do? Why do you have, like, seos or mues in camps of cultivos? What do you think is that it's like the intention to do? Let's a message of that we're

to regress to origin, that is when you analyze the Crop Circun in the Camps of Cultivoc, in Englanda, that now are in Holland, France, well, in all parts. Well, even in the Middle

Orient, they're in the Middle East, in the 2010, 11, no, 2011, 2012, and 2013, 3 years. But, yeah, when we've seen as a

general, the apparition of these agrograms or crop circle or signals in the camps of cultive, when you're studying, the specialists,

always they're to remit to two things. One, that we're going to to the origin, is to say, to love,

and the other of questions astronomical that are going to occur. That's very important because you know,

this really is doing a conscience, someone who is someone who going to be to come to our view

from our or from the earth, that comes a eclipse, that will be a lineation, that will

be this, that will be this, so that's only you can say someone that's not someone who's

someone who's that's just that's what Curious. And the other part, that is this part that I think the spiritual,

it's always going to be in the mind of the science with the role spiritual. And in the role spiritual or in the

ambitual, we're going to say, we're to get to to get a origin, we have to be a union.

But what curious, that is your same, that I've to have been to find in the messages

of the terrestresterstres of all the life and of all the history. Okay. Sometimes

we're encountered. I've encountered in my channel of YouTube I'm more than 4,800

interviews to people that assure you experience of contact or to receive

messages of those beings. And what I found when I see, not of

cases particular, but in general, so are four words claves,

peace, union, love, and self are the words that's

the words that I'm a person that refers to a person a person of contact

with this sentient. And is that are people that are many years advanced

than we know, so we know, we're really, we're at the

side of them, and the error of the person is to think that they're

there's there's that you know, the people, you can't be able to be

in the thing, I mean in the mind, that supposedly there a

race that the planet but that they're they're not to act in libres bedrio

but but that in a moment if we're we're at the auto

aniquation they're they present you think in that you're and no and you

do I say because we've been a first war world yeah

a second war world and in various moments of the history

we've been in a point to enter in a third a war

world but yeah a level nuclear. And not have been there. It's not been

there to involve and be able to get there, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no have passed.

The last that we've lived a pandemic where there was a fear, many things raras

passed. For our life. And much people lamentably fellesio. No,

there was the help of them. I'm clear. I'm always I've said,

they're they're those We're seeing, we're not analyzing and studying, because we're what we're doing, and for what we do, and for what we're doing?

I'm sure, but they're those eternal, nirones. No, they're going to involuntary. The majority of the contactado referre that they, when they get, yeah in a contacto front-a-front-to-front

with us, not going to solosion the infirmities, not going to solution the contamination and the corruption and nothing of those things that so much

to lastimed to us in the human here in the earth. No, they're going to do. And they're saying, no, because you

have done all this chaos. And who has to solution to do you, are you know, but there's other part where

are the beings and say, if you're using the armament nuclear, in that moment to us,

we're going to get to them, but because it is going to you, and what they've said to

us, us will affect to us in the ambit of the system solar, more than the system

solar, at the moment that is utilizes armament nuclear. For that, at a

part of midiados or finales of the 40, when the human began with

the detonations atomical in the deserts in the deserts of the States was the

initial and the presence of some of some manner of the presence of these

extraterrestrial that you say you're they're not going with those energies no they're

they're to do you and then there's there's a lot of a long of

the history where the message was that they're taking care with what

they're doing what they're doing the first not for demetar but the

the first the second year world is nothing compared with

what if if you get to a one Tercera, not only only thermonuclear.

Hiboless. Almas biological. Of all. It's a destruction massive supermating

and that I think would be a tonteria. And very lamentable because, well,

Latin America, we're not we're not we're pacifices at 100%. There's no that other

country that made kind of respinggon but but we don't we don't

we're prepared as like countries like countries, like us us in Mexico,

well, then say, or say them to grosseries, what the more we could do we're doing. But if

we can affect much. Now, now, this isto this you mentioned as if they can't they involve us,

also if we're going to the testimonials of the United, they've been about and have said, that in the

bases military, where's where the armament nuclear, that is top secret,

that nobody know, that maybe in a base military, two or three persons, nothing more, at the most of a context of 3,000, 4,000 people, only 2 or 3

know that there are armament nuclear there? See the objects and in occasions, they're active in these ojivas, and before that they're launched, it's

that, it's just, it would be, then, that these omnis, these artifacts, say, to be, well, you tendras technology much advanced?

But, look, you can't activate and I can deactivate and then it's so it's so it's

when the government, when the United's I've said, and it's and it's and it's

and he has got to money in the investigation to know if this can provoke

a serious problem for the security national of the United and it's obvious

it's logical. Something that you're that's controlling the most poweros

that you imagine that in one of a missile and that where where it's

where it And of a sudden that's active and I see one or two seconds before that it's all over like saying hey

we're not we can't we can't get that's I think the message is that that's that and really

you know what you know what you know what you know what you know and if we're we're probably the love of the prochino

that cochinate but you know I want to pass the last the last time that is the that is it's a

it's a really of the reality. Well, said that there have been many people who have been

there's many things that have been different phenomena, but they're they're about some

people of the sack and sombrero that's dedicated to the men,

the gos the gos the gos of the mrs. The men, look, I can't

the version romantic of the theme of the women of the women of

the Parts real. Okay. Well, we're going to the part romantic. I'm... The part

romantic is where are, um, are they're, these, are these, they're infiltrated in our planet, like the

movie of the same, practically. So, so, like. So, are things in our world that are

that they're going to that they're not going to get into a person, and the moment that they're immediately eliminate all of

evidence of that. As soon with your flash. The only that's the only that's the only thing that's

the only the life real. Okay. after the Second World the United as a second

two bombs in the Japan no I don't want that that in their territory, in the territory

state-unidens. For that so they created diverses mechanisms, instances governmental and agencies

of security of intelligence and many other things that we have no idea we have but all

that's that's all that they've been enfoced to that. And one

of which was the FBI. The FBI, or the borough federal of investigation, he did what necessary to display and to get a grand red of informants in

all the Union American. Okay. Edgar Hoover, who has too many decades at cargo of the FBI, practically from his fundation

until that this sir, felliecio, he gave so to political that were really

they were a radiographia for that they were so temed because you pass a lance

and they they were in a expedient there's a tendency that's, the tendencies of the communism

or of this or the socialism or of this kind of this tendency so it then so

that's so that's all the world so everyone so all the people to the

presidents of the US un they quadraband and what he

represented for the power of the information in in that

context, they'd do them to the omnis, but not because considerer that he's

going to get an invasion extraterrester and we attack, no. Because he considerable that if

there was any alteration in the order and was a light or was a person very

extrano, he said immediately that they were they were they were they were experimenting

in territory state unidens to provoke a cause and the destruction. So,

then paranoia, but tremendous, tremendous. And what he is then, then, display to all its elements, and into one of the things that they had to investigate, was that when it was publicar, in the periodical, some news, of an avistamient to Omni, of some atterisage, of a contactado, of a message that had a photographia, of a, of a filmation, or

what were, immediately they had to investigate it. There were, who collaborated. And And they'd quit them the negatives, and they'd quit them the filmations, and they'd say, you'd say, but there's many people who'd say, for what? It's my material, I was and I'm sure of what I mean.

So, then it's there where they'd say, they'd say, they'd, they'd say, and when there no idea in that house, entrapan, they'd, they'd find what they'd to find out, they'd and then, and then

that legend of the gomres of the Negr, but really existier. This is real. It's authentic. But not the part Romano. No, not are non-sumstress, between us. Much people say, is that those that had the pill palida.

It was black, leech. Without sejas. Exactly. A voice roguerunized. Exactly. Very alt. Very alt. Bestied, always of negros. Very, very well, bestied and with roba that was fair. Carrow's ultimate, super

limpicitos. And you said, well, but that is what? That's no. That's no. It's not. and the U.S. always has been the resources economic

to give them to give them to the system. And yeah. So, in Mexico, figure it. A me much people contact and

me say, oh, is that the men are here out of my house, and I'll and I'm,

and I'm, you know, how you're, I'm going to get to get to get to all these evidences?

And what do you need you, so, let me know, oh, well, well, I,

but it's okay, I'm, but it's okay, sir, and I, and I'm, and I'm, Why, why a

Jaime Mausanne not have gone to the black to call him? Why don't have been to say,

Johan, hey, yeah, he, he, he's not to be talking about and more and the messages and

of contactados, yeah, cack, not occurred that's, and because there's, I'm a lot

I think with much respect and just just to make very clear that that the things not

so people that not people who no militia or people that no has more relevance in the

time of the omis, there's they they Well, what, so, what, that's a lot would have a lot of

non-resonance, no influence, in the opinion public, if you do you do you, and to do you, no,

no, there's no, that's, no, so, so, that's, no, that's, no, you know, a register, in Mexico,

only we've registered and being documented, a case of the men, of the case of the Santos-Montiel,

that in 1990, in, in, in 1775, is to be, Medeus of the 70, he was a encounter when when he was a vioneta Piper,

he came to Texquitengo, at the altitude of Tekexitengo, and so they pegged three ovies. With form of disc, they pegged, one, he pego in the part of the tent

of ateris and no put to back. Well, that's a case. Yes, when Don Pedro Ferris he was going to interviewer in what

that's the Beasteca, that before was an emevision, in the periferico, they were detubiered in the carriles centrales and, and he was

and he said, We know where you Webes? We know who is your family? There you know if you're saying. Silence. Acto So, the president of the

States Unites in turn Manda a Joseph Allen Heineck considered the father of the investigation omniscientific at the level international to say let's see you to Mexico and investigate that case.

That's curious. Sure. Ser curious. Hungry now. Now? What about now? Whenever it hits you, wherever you are, grab an O'Henry bar to satisfy your hunger.

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what's really. I mean, I've even got to question, okay, persons that are persecuted, but, you know, in some moment,

has seen persecution by part of... No, look, the most what more that has been in this

amit to, like, of persecution, was that in some moment, no I'm not going to give numbers,

because no me, no, no, It was authorizing, but in some moment, someone very important of the police federal, ago, because, as a few years, me busk, because,

as I saw that he gave a seguent to the time of the Omnis, me, me, we were, we were in a center commercial, in a restaurant, and me says, we have this case. In a place of Sinaloa,

they were to do an operative. It was, the police federal, was together the army, and this year was at the operation, at the moment that they're going, they're

there are some light that are going to in a space like a barranca chiquita

and they they're just they're just they're just they were in the point so they

were all the things there were for in when they said yeah in this moment

activate the all the plan and well they're noida this is that

here is that there is there are there are some there are some there are

very raros what we do. No, well, well, there they, wait, until we're the order. And in that moment, the lights start to turn. And it's called, and it's

a little. So, then they're going. Oh, guys. They're going. Disparen't. Disparen't with all what they've got to do. There's a tot. Disparandole. No, they did not.

Girando, turning, turning, it's started to. Girando, turning, it's, it's to fire to another. Three. The preoccupation

of this sir, not the lightes. The preoccupation is that technology is that to ask you to the senior president I have the

billetter abieter and recommend me what technology is but I'm what I'm what I'm going to say? Well if this is that you goys to the corner and where

they're going to give me a nav of those of those that were in Sinai that no no, that you I'm and I'm and I said

this not is so what you what you're what you're saying saying, are characteristics completely that are

with the omnis, with the objects non-identified, no-identified. So, I said, well, I'm

saying, involve, I want to give data, I want to do, but what data, but what do you?

So, that I'm to get internet and me to get to a page, to the catalog of naves

that use or that get to, that doesn't, no, no exist. Naves not identified.

Exactly. But, but I said, he was, he preoccupable much because he,

within the cargo that had been the operation had been a fracasy so I'm okay,

I can't publicer this in my column in the period of the name, no, this, no,

I mean, you know, I did like a list of things, I'm just,

I'm I'm a little carnita of what did you do you and the

repuente so come to make sure, because they said that I had been to do the

pitazzo to who were to do To be, calms, no, no, no. To me, no, no. I mean, no, I'm in that role. Sacken to context.

Yeah, yeah. So, they're what they were looking, or the government in that moment, I was looking to be, who, who, who was the couple? I said, I mean,

me, me, they've been with that role, because three months after me later, I'm interested, I'm not, I'm not put to learn the, the testimony,

what was, the testimony, what's, the report, the, no, I'm not, I'm not put to talk with those who were there, not me were

because had been a operation in secret. in secret, but that's but he's not for because they're to a place

where they're to appear in these objects and that was what revented was the operative. But of a repent me saying,

no, is that you is that's colludeed, to you, but what are they're talking? Sure. Three months

after I'm and I don't have nothing to with that error. I mean, in the line of the time in any moment

appears Johanand Dias until that it is publica much time after. three months after.

No, it's that and precisely what's many times I go with the internet and different

media, many people then get to the context or the edition or something. And it's

something very common, but something I think that we know that we know that it's a

thing very fascinating of the that we simply we can talk for hours

and hours and really to tell anecdotas but that part of the contact

when you are present that I'm going to be your suede your real real. I mean, I sure that's what I'm much too. Herman,

something, something, something, if the people who look at these moments, is interested in these thematic

has to learn, has to study, has to get to get to their own conclusions for that nobody

he platic, nobody he quentin, but about the understanding that we we're always

to question every one of the things that they that is the most important. I mean, I mean, I know, I mean, it's a

function very important, that is the divulgar this, all the casuistic. Yes. But we're not we know all. And, for the

time, if the people us help us, leading, that now is very complicated that the people,

but there are podcasts, there are videos, there a quantity that in my times, when I was

machao, no, I had to be there to get to to get to something of some

news important of some place. And now there's an excess of information

that not we're to get to be to dosific or understand or matisal the information

and then presentarsela to our respective auditorios. I think that's the message

principal and also the that they are here are here between us.

That's me kept super clear. Tremenddo my No, your social is

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