EXTRA ANORMAL - 149 | Secretos del Vudú y Palo Mayombe Revelados: Entrevista con Sacerdote Ismael Hougan

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Mas RefundEn este episodio revelador, el sacerdote de Vudú Haitiano y Palo Mayombe, Ismael Hougan, comparte sus inicios en el mundo espiritual, experiencias intensas en trabajos espirituales y datos escalofriantes sobre estas poderosas religiones. Descubre los secretos detrás de los rituales, creencias y el significado profundo de Vudú y Palo Mayombe, narrados de primera mano por Ismael. Además, durante la grabación, una presencia espiritual se hace sentir, visible para Paco y el mismo Ismael. ¿Qué revelaciones nos traerá esta conexión con el más allá?Prepárate para sumergirte en el misterioso mundo del Vudú y Palo Mayombe con Ismael Hougan, donde lo sobrenatural se encuentra con la realidad. #Vudú #PaloMayombe #EntrevistaEsotérica #MisteriosEspiritualesPARA ENVIAR RELATOS Y COLABORACIONES AL SIGUIENTE CORREO: [e-mail] ....................................................................................................................................................... No se te olvide seguirnos en nuestras redes, aquí te las comparto: YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@extraanormalpodcast FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/podcastExtraAnormal INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/extra.anormal.podcast/ TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@extra.anormal.podcast

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I'm literally Not I'm I'm like But I'm Even so I'm Even though Maybe Yeah

But But it's And so Also it's Also with So with So with That's

Well, now So, well Now you When you You have A type of A job So you

It's To make A person You You're In a Fras in a Frasco

A spirit Human? Well When you When you you're going to take a person,

evidently you do your clean, but the limpeas a secret are like

an essence very different and are those who certain brough, for to say,

when when he about about of other things, it happened

so, so, yeah, so I see, uh, a, um,

to me have been applied that, you know, you've got done, you've

got to get to get to, But I know that I'm going to envenerate the food. Only that I see that broo, I'll show him, who I'm who? Ah, the why. If you know. Yes, because at least have been people all year old.

Uh-huh. They're trying to me to be at least how much I have. You know, and me have to be the food. I know that I'm going to me. I mean, I'm going to me. I'm going to be. Meantle, for that he'll be that, no, he's going to be there. Hello

Hello, Hello, Hello, to my podcast extra Normal. My name is Pacuaries,

and I'm very happy to be here here with you. This occasion I'm very content

because me a good good friend. Today is with me, Ismail O'Gann.

How is Ismail? Very well, very well. Here, a good to be to be to be a

program. Thank you for accept the invitation. The reality is that I'm very grateful

with all the people for giving and give us or some hours of your

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for that you're getting content for all the semester. And now, now that we're just to present you here with the family, how, now see, to what do you dedicate, your networks, Well, I'm a spiritist of a young.

Well, I started with the time, my abuel was the way that was now, the ensignance in all what was the herbularia, in all what are the herbs for curate. So, as if you're all right, like, for curate,

too, I'm trying to destroy. So I started with the spiritism, I started with what is, with the years, with the many years, at the age of 14 years, more than I, I'm going to,

I'm going to the palombe, and then before I was, I'm with the theme of the Boudou, the Boudou Aitian. Okay. And what are

your networks social, brother? Well, my reds social is Ismael O'Gann Brujo

Palero Tata in Kisimalong and Sacertote Boudou Aitian, Mexico. You thank much,

brother. We're going to start with this time. Persons like you who who are you

that's the thing of the thing paranormal all the time.

All the day. Always with the question if you know the if you're

going to let's we're going to let's let's the question would be what was

the experience that you to convince of all that the phenomenon exists.

What was the experience that was a very really really totally of my

little really I'm a yeah I've I've been spiritus be a

demonios and many of things and I didn't one in special

with which normally when I was in the day that something I gotrava and me wanted to get me okay so when Imanecea that were like the three and

the morning ummenecea the alfumbra I always tried so there were things that I didn't like what was but I was

I'm a lot of okay me understand right now I think yeah I think you you know I think you think you're in

that you're a moment when you're a Well, there were really They were that the spirits They wanted to communicate with me In some way There had been Deities of Demoniacas

Ideas demoniacas That's I'm appeared One of the same it was Ackon, a sombra Gigante, great Okay No, I could say the

The time with that attitude Because I was a child In that time, it was a little And now so that I gotro the Man, I remember I because I had the body

all paralyzed. So that I got the hand so I'm a man

very very hot. And he said that never me was to get

in peace. Wow. And yeah I still having

certain circumstances and my mom me said that

that's my imagination. Okay, so when I grew at a

certain age, me said was because obviously me

had to be obviously me It was like my my abuela that me taught me told me

had to help me to develop more in much things and then I understood that was my

imagination. Okay. That's really what he accompanies always the men and always the

spirits, no? The spirit the demon and all, many things. Okay. Aurita

mentioned two artes or two, how we could we call two religions, the palomayumbe

and the budo. And the budu. What is the palomoyombe? We've heard for all the first time

that we have a person who has the palomayombe or is part of the religion of the religion

Palomayombe. Well, what is Palomayombe and Budu that really really really

no say, there's there's, there's, there's, there's, Inquis and Malongue Malongue

Yaya, you know, it's a religion that's a religion that's all what are the energies,

the power, the natural of the impungos, that the impungos are energy of the nature of the naturalness, the

which is evolution, so, it's modifices, does the science with the infumbe that is the

dead. So, so it's a evolution, a fusion between the Inquis between the

impungo with the energy of the nature of the naturalness with the death.

Okay. Travazas basically with the mortals. With the Mewertos, with the deities, with the Inquise.

Yes. I have understood that, like other religions, for example, like Yoruba and these situations, are more to live spiritual. But there are people that are to get to these religions because they're or destroy or want protection or in different situations.

This is it can't do also in the religion, Paloma, Yombe? Well, yeah. Now, so, depending on the person, what you ask, to me have been have been in the term

a marries well to get a person to get a person who's a person doesn't

get to every time in the night, three of the morning if you get to

the night or simply no can get to get to and me have also

to the person and me have to make certain sacrifices there

are certain sacrifices that they're there and it's a thing

put you there's there's that there's that with a guy or a guy in the

panteon okay you can't you can't get to depending depending on the religion

the Inquisimalong so the empal mayombe if it's a religion is a very

because I am Tata in Quisimalong so so then if I have been to me a man

and there many people in which have gone Okay. I don't mention a

man because it's like to get to one in certain problems in certain interment

but if me has to get a person to send him to the camera me and

that's when you when they man a so it's very difficult

to get the how it's when you say you man

to be a because I'm looking about this situations and they're they're

they're they're they're they're the emboettium that's there are the secrets, normally

is usually the number of the person, so that they're one, say that's that it three times, say that's seven, so that's the putt is 12, so that's the point is 21 times. Yeah.

And the bottle they go in all the secrets, so that you get the same or the same muirto. Okay. And when one is going to work with a morgue,

for the most of most of you normally go to the pantions And, well, now so, if it's a Muerto Receen Yegated, I'll,

I'm a realto not I'm like, but if I'm still a little maybe yeah, but,

but it's also, it's also with the name to the so, with all they put in

the box. So, the job to be put to the cadaver, like, the

and this what does? And this, what, what, and now now see,

when you do you is a type of job like a person or to malar it or to

get a or a sometimes to get a but normally it's for a person to do you

know it to make a person. Something me has talked to listen when

when you when you when you when you when you when you when you when they're

a when you can make a a man in fombe so can make

that you can't make you do you can make that you can

get in camera. You can make that you do your family

begins to get a and get and so go to one one or independently

are many things. But what is I have I have a doubt what

what happens when when it's when the thing is the

job to what is what is what what is what is the

moment with the character with the name the

person how how is the function the magic there

is a Tratado spiritual. Before you did you did a ritual.

If you did it, then I can't reveal the secret how it's because you know that

the people do you know, and then after the buchachos youngs, they put in to do not

to do the final and at the end uprougating I'm no, man they're they're inbrugating

to terminate portals and demoniated of all. Of all, of all, of all,

and there people that have to lose the life. It's very very

so. So, so, he has a trotado, it's a trot

with the infumbe, with the morto. Okay. It's a and that

you do do you do with him, now so you do you do you

do a certain that he wants, and, he, he has to me

to give to me a certain because that is the trial. I'm so,

I'm but you do you know, although you that's what I'm going to do do. Obviously, they're using

certain things to send him and I'm I'm doing, and he'll me help. And of that it's about

the vibration in all what is the thing in Kisimalong. Okay, fiftate that me gave much

the attention primarily in the way in how they're they're working with they're working

with people that this religion and you know said much. If you do what you want to be to be a part of this religion for, to damage to someone for

this, I think not is for you. This is more to provide also a bit of a bit of a very, let's do. This is certain? Well, now so, not all can be good, not all can be a little. It's been evolution. Here's always

will be to work the good and the bad. Yeah. Me. You know, one, for the less, I mean, you know, you know,

I don't mind my mort, and I say I don't go to him, because there are good brujo that can get

to embottial. Now the embottialment and in other way, that mutton, that essence, that that's a

mother. And it can be other brother that can't be another more palombe, can be Yoruba,

can be santae. It has a palerone, a inquis and Kis and Kisim a long. Okay. Because as

I always say to the people, that paler is the that's the paler is the thing, if they're in, they're in, what is a infund, what is a

murder, is a lot, they're not, they're they're, he's, he's, he's,

every palo, has their energy, has your vibration, so that it's a, a,

like the called, like the thing, it's a, the part of, depending of the

job that, he's, he's, if you're going to do a type of a job to dominate

a person for a person, he'll be to me, he'll ha-halla, me entient if it's

a palo that you want to you're going to get a person, he met a canya brava me

understand. How it's you know, right mentioned the embotealement how

how function this? Literally literally, you guard in a frasco a spirit human?

Well, when you will be to get to the person evident you do you do it's a limpia

but the limpe gives a secret a secret in special that is infumbe

that's when you do you do you a way to do you when you do you

blow it with a with a with a biter and if it's a certain secret

in the bottle now now so I'm I can say the because

imagine me going to want to let's let's let's Entienes. So, and not

all the world knows, too the world, so is a tratade of a trotado. Tratado of Andilanga has a much

time. I took to see, where they put, where they put it like a, I don't see,

of some material flammable, put in the bottle, they're in the endian, and it's

in this caminito is going going to the fire until when it's when it

they're, they're, but the extraordinary of this are cars that that's

different of the bottle, that are that they're those and they're like,

no, no, no, are really, the um, well, yeah,

you have seen, yeah, you know, you've been, so, you're saying flammable,

no, I'm going to reveal that that's that's a , it's right, is correct, so it's

put certain things, then so where you go, or it, in the science,

is, so, it's, it's, and you will see that that's so so when you

the tap me you know, a entroquered not it's exactly various spirits with one

only, because one only only you know, with one only so what's, what's

what's the what's that's that's a that's a that's a enemy and you

want to you're so you're so much you get a with that with the same

so it's so it's with the same of it's but as you're to go to regress. But independently

what you can do, if you don't want to be a, if you know a man, a man, a fort, a morto and a mortal, and you know what you want to, then, then, so, you, you eligees, like, who can do you do make him to work with him, and that's like you, you, no see, your colleague, or

something, like, like, so, the other, you send to his morto, you, he'll robes his mort, and you can't get to travel with his dead. Now, so, when he gets to the, at the prend, to in Ganga, me the candango,

as a he wants, he says, he gets, he says, his awardient, and his purito, and there's no

there. Okay. Because the I'm still, the essence of that's a person, the same

spirituality that that had that that prenda, that's, that's, you know, no, you know, that's,

so, you can robes the person to somebody else. It's correct. Okay. A me

can, man, to send a a to, and I'm, to send a year.

It's correct. Or they can't manned a or they can't to make a person

or they're and then you, before you have to consult that person to see how

is what you know, and with that's you're going to get. Because there many people

that are in borgue and they're put in that no, he's not, you know, I'm here

some bannitos of rudas with with albaca and etchal and etchal mele or

what That one doesn't. Okay. The why not function. A one, because no they don't have

a force and a power spiritual, if if you can dominates, you know, how you're going to do you want to

do you? You have to get a broo? I mean, I've got a, because I'm manned a brokeria, that's, you,

have intended to to you know, that's, for example, Santa Morte or something, or something. I mean,

I've been to do all. Okay. Me, you know, of all, but here I'm, so.

How you you're, how you're manned to you to some malifio well when you

when you feel you a little kind of when you feel you a little disorientated

cansancio you you're you're at three of the morning or no you can't

or you're a repose you're a lot of you know I'm

but I'm human so you so you're so you you get to you get where you

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He's a, there's a mumba. Yes? It's a little bit of what you sound, or simply no, you know, you're not, you're recargued of something. But, yeah, sure, always is a cancansion,

always there a vibration you debilitas spiritually. Because there's good brus that primarily for a man

I'm of you know of this when I know the broo is powerful first I'm the devilot okay

precisely that is a doubt that I have to that's what you maybe directly to

you or someone that gets with a person with you get a a maleficio

you have a job of a but it's a brother very powerful very

powerful or a, I mean, a brusorya, a very very strong. How lividas you with that? How I quitted? Well, I'll go and I'll repeat. For example, all of it. For example, because a consult? Because, for me

of a consult, you open many doors. And you, you haveres so the doors, that you're absolutely to get to where that's dead. Who's it? Who he's? How? How? It's. Why? Why? It's what? For what? For what

he let's do, if to be the person infirm, if to be the person or if it's a marre that they did that person

because there times that the amarrs they're they're they're going to make a thing and they're

doing it doesn't know they're, then there's where you know, you know, what is the

point devil for to say, of that that's the person who made or of that

the demonio or that you say ah, look to this I'm with this I'm going to

and with this I'm going to get to. 20 in two days, what the person at times to get to

get to be in the way to get to go. Because they they were to and they were to and as well, and as

you know, that's going to then there there's a detail. But I don't, I don't if I'm,

I don't see it's that I, no, no, no, I don't me create nothing, I, I don't know,

I've seen a broo, like I say, that I'm I'm not because I me have sent out and I can't

get to be seven times seven and I'm attacked but I've got to attack a brujo and I've got to I've been for the other world

wow me, you know, no I've got so I'm got to let's have and a

and a and I'm there's that I'm sometimes I'm simply I'm with what

I have to and that so little to do you yeah that's allito actua. Okay. Here I have

a doubt. Well, independently of what you know what you comment, some case Ismail, what you have passed, uh, of someone that has solicited of your

help? Caso, I think there's many cases, there's a lot of, now so you know, that this is you, or the two,

or the two more the first. Well, the first that I went to to a, uh, a, a,

a, a, a, a, a, a person, uh, and the person was of the

more well that I don't they're in they're in video I don't

see I'm didn't even even even you don't you

that's people that people yeah yeah that I'm

that because the person she transformed she demoned

all she he got a so the same he made

to so so so so so she manifested in that

the same Me said that me to eat I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to because I have done,

I've done also the word I've done. And as I had I'm in a patipem or something like a

kind of a no, no, no, so I'm going to move. And that person,

without to begate in the ultimate, he said, I said, oh, but,

but what is this no? Okay. I'm not that I'm going to let me check the bago,

I'm going to let me try to the Gallina, no? So, so I So then I've got to invoke, now so, that's to another,

more than, more than, more, for to get in me. Okay. And, you know, and here it was all the contrary.

And, well, and there were some secret, so did a question with fire, so did the vibration,

and this person, you, you've got posed. For your life, because if I

not could, in that moment, I could, I could, vibra, the thing, as it was a much

force, I'm a matter of so, but I had to do you have to be

a little to be in a level of this. We're a person that's a position

how he would call that that's demoniac? Well, it's a position

is a demoniac because now. Because now is that if there in Kisimbal

or is with endokis. The endokies are those spirits malo, the spirit of the spirits

of dark, or demonio, a demonio in Dugie, you know. So,

then what is what is the that in the termino satanista, or in the term,

if it's offended to the satanita in, sure. In the term

a person that you, you, I'm a demonio as a very different the vibration.

So, are the same, it's me make curious, but are the same

demonio, but at the same, no, because it's invokes to other

manner. Okay. You know, those you know is other another way

I know I can't say that a Indochie, because, in Africa, no, in Africa, no, no God. If I don't know any to God, or not know any of the demons. And they're not in the demons. These are the terms of the religion, Judeo-Christian. Correct.

So, so are like an essence very different. And are the, what certain brough, for say, when he's, when he's, about the other things, it passed like a thing out of there. Yes, so I was. So it's like of other

themes, another vibration that's that's really imagineate, I mean, you know, has to lead

with that type of thing. Okay. O'ye, what interesting. That is a case that you took,

see, a person posseida that's a physical, so your material and begins

to change the form colloquial, demoniac. That's we get to, mount a demonio. So,

it's a month, so it a lot. There's a other case because there

I mean that you comment about that are two the other case what is?

It took a case of actually not much

that was that was cleaning the person and he

started and it light to be the light and it result

so when I got and I I think I've got the person I have kids that I have to

The chivos Incavesa So, why What's the type of This type of thing? How's the chivo Sin Cabeza? I mean

I did the I did the Sacrificio I had to do And independently Well, yeah the chiv Yeah,

he was done Yeah, he was He did to eat of And all to the Centsia that I had to

And we We went to one a part of the temple and when I see that someone I say I said,

I said, I said, I said, I go, I'm a chibbo we're saying what I'm, what I'm, what chivok

is that? When we're we're doing, we're doing, in all the entrance of the temple, what was what

was to do you have done, in the gallina, in the actually, there's that there's

that they're there's the head to the guy and the can get to get to get to

get to get are some reflexes. But here is different because here was a chivo and an animal of four-pata.

So, so we're we're going to the part of the vibration of the temple when we're we're going to

we're doing. So, so some things that's the people and are things and they're some vibrations

that if you tell you don't you know they're that you know? So basically basically

what's the person posigue the body of the body of the chiv of the chiv

You know, like he's like he's up Like he's Yeah Because, because you know Because this

this is When why they're the gallos and why they're

sacrificing the chivos you there's you're giving the life of that

animal a change of the other person Yeah in the times

In the times they're being a person normal so they're so they're so they

changed some things that yeah no had to be a

derrammium in the sanctumana, as a ritual that also that also there's a ritual that they're in

so so it's change the life of the animal for the of the

person okay to you to take to say in some ritual I don't

say no mrs and say a place that you have to do something

so not with animals with people well that now

now so now so now I can revela certain things. Okay.

I'm going to go to go to go to neutral there. But really

so, so are things that are not they're very religious. I mean,

so I know, I'll and I tell you, I'm to end up to a

person, well, so, so so it's so of people and

of people and so but I'll and the little problem

that that if you commences, let's suppose, you commences to say to people that's

that I'm that's going to there, that's you're going to have to be to be a every other

every day every year, and you don't want to say a guy so so,

and reallyarily here what is for so much sacrifice certain animals,

but I'm a bit a lot of things that leon. Leones. Wow.

Leo, me has talked, clasidado, really. I've been to make some animals,

but yeah the people those were in the times, you know, you can't use,

you can't be able to people, say that that's a haggado. If you is that

I think I've understood that the legon has has, it's,

it's a part that it's very and it's much better now

so because it's a little more a vibration more, more agrador. The person human has contaminated

much of so much of so also the thing of the one of the cause, the whole

you know, so it's people people. For the most I know, for the person to

people, no. Okay. Why? I'm in that you get to get a person

no. You can use the or the car of a person. Clown. You know

you're going to be to the cemetery, just only in only the entry

of the is a divinidad. I mean, only in the entry of the cemetery. So,

you know, a body that's the enfumbe, the dead, still be to his, to his,

a sub- vibration. So, so, mortals of cemetery, you can make many

of things. Malded. They have many, maldade. So, the are the

leone, monos, because the monos is the most is the most

-pressed but still. are animals, for to say, animals sagrados in certain

religions, are animals very sacred. You know, and for so they do you, it's

done the sacrifices as a lot. I've heard a person, and he says that

they're that they're and that do some certain situations with people, I think,

with the respect that they're because every loco with their thing,

yeah I think that that's ignorance. Okay. Me, because

I mean, no, there's a more thing that's a or I, for the

least, who I'm that I'm certain things, that are also that's

demoniac, you you can, um, at the the same demonio, or at the

same, you can, you know, and the person to be there, and the person's and the person's

and they're so, so, so, not directly to get to a, like you

as, like you said, convert to a disvivividid a, a, of humans. It's correct.

Because there are people that say, no, they're not, they're not, for me, that's, that's a, a, um, a thing a lot of,

that's a thing of people, no, they're not in the head and reallyarily, well,

no, I'm going to say, because the truth, that's an ignorance, so,

what they're, okay. Because for that's the animals sacred, for that's many,

many people, in the times, there were much the thing of the And the Brueha, that the

Brueha, evidently there if I can't tell, that I'm sure, I can't even tell you can't of people that I've seen,

that I've seen, that I know, that a manito of a baby, where they can't, where they're

or chuping to those babies, or the more or the more to, but that's a thing, when it's a

thing, that's a thing spiritual too, me, you know, that the The bruise he was

robo and he and he he's and he he's and he I'm trying

to try to to keep that intrigue that had the people because the people sometimes

for impression especially the charlatans they're in black a lucura that for those are

so the religions of us but the brother gets and chup the essence of that

that's he doesn't he's the the that's the he's the he's the

dweendies, deities demoniacas, that can get to get to get to a, a, a, a, a, a,

a, a, but as a, but as a, he's robin a, or, that's people,

that people, that's, that's a, okay. How do you, in your religion, to,

something to talk to mention a, bruchas, duend, inaguales, because no. So, how,

how, how, Palombe? Well, in the Palombe no there no way there's

there's a other name if there's certain people that can get to transform in perro or can

get to get to transform in certain things. It's possible in the palom mayor.

But it has it has a level very, very extreme. Okay. That's so it's

in the time in the time in the time in the old olditos in the people who were the

people that were in the 90, the 10 years and you I saw that

they were in 80-pick of years and they were in a minute they were in a bit maybe

it's a little bit of a bird or a see, a morsealgo and you know many of things

but if is possible then a person could transmutar that can that can

change to a animal if it's possible yeah that's sure that

so sure with certain that's a person could get to a person can to get to

get to that evolution, because for me it's an evolution. But are so much dedication and it's a thing of

that's a thing. No, you think all the enganguleros or all the paleros, as they

can get to do that. No, that's a vibration that's a one, a vibration that's a

abelor was a probably in in perro. Yeah. But, and maybe you,

you just you now with the time you got that same essence, heredatts that essence. Okay.

But that that's not like, the palo fulando in tal it's become no,

because imagine this would be a like a movie of a movie with Dracula with Dracula

that's a okay, and with the duels what you know, because right I've talked to

I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, I mean, but, that you know, yeah, so,

if there are, so, Yes, I think you I think it's all because I mean I've got to be every thing I'm talking about

what I'm talking what is, me understand. That's the more rare that's you've seen because

I've seen demonios, I've seen this, I've seen dweens but that you

have impacted maybe for his phicomia for his time. I think there's much

I've seen me see you to tell to all what I've seen it would be I'd

not I'd not I'd this because many things that I

have seen but I've seen to talk, in certain situations that I've interviewed, well, I don't have enough time as to, like, to, like, to

talk about, but if I get to, put, you, a, one, a, like, a, a, one, a, a, one, a, one, a, one, a woman, that was in this time, a, small. Chequita.

Pepeakena. If, if were a little, so, I'm going to, and, of a repent, the event, I was more grand, I was, like, as you chingas?

And yeah, when I went to see that that thing was more occulted, but it was a thing and it

and it and so it pibbip pipip piv so, so it made a

mackabro a weird like something like something something I was like

something I'm so I'm and I kept like in that the science

saying he didn't not didn't because no the Casua, but

if I'm scared. And so I'm a ruffe and I'm because I do you know what is that. What is that?

Yeah. I mean, you know, and when they were more great, in my country, in my country,

for the least they said, Silampa. Yeah, I remember that Zabel said, and he said,

ah, you, what you did was the Silampa. Me understand, that you can

get in in the internet for if not you know the Silampa. What is the Silampa?

What is the is a divinity, a divinity that live very very close to the

Yorona, but this is another another one like a demonio Silampa. If the Yorana is the classic for that you're

to go ahead to invocality because the people, yeah, you know, they say, well,

we're going to invoke the silampa and then it's going to it's a cargand like who who can't

then I'm what's the thing I'm and that's you know, so you're to get around and you

don't know I'm to ask you to ask to ask you in this lapso that there

had been something that's I'm going you know I'm sure because I'm we know we're

we're not you know you're not you know that's the thing or this makes think that

the people for example like you no nothing they need or they can't

in the sense of the no but yeah no yeah no yeah no me

spanked nothing yeah I'm I'm I'm free of

this thing because I I'm okay I'm I'm that

thing, that could have been it's a rato, yeah, it's a

rata, it's a vibrations that obviously a a minute that you are passing

the time, you're making more stable literally psychologically because we're those bruj

evidently we're going to be many times we've got to a demonio and it

another other thing that that goes more all the demon. You say,

and that's impactant. You know, like that's that's you know, that's what?

You know, that's a lot of, you know, you're going to kind of, you're going to, almost,

that's powerful. Something. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's, you're just you're just

like, like, what is this. No. It's what was what I don't know. No, it

was what I was, but also, but also, if you're to be able to start firm,

you, no you can't you know, for the moment I'm so I'm so you're now when

when I feel in those things, I think I'm saying that I'm so I'm mean I'm much I'm much

a power that I'm got to talk to all those things, well for that you make a

because imagine it's a simple mortal or is a simple human because we have to

move in some moment invocating an a demonio that has and I

think I know that I don't didn't know I'm So, then, so trying a demon, or, uh, sacando the other

other place that you, how do you explain? So, uh, a, sometimes are a type of demonia, because, that sometimes not

they're not, like many, like many people that are in a Bible or that are in, in these, uh, many,

they're even in those books. So, what you invoked is there, is a spirit, no, no, no,

no, I have to guard and I don't I can't reveal it. Because, at some apparitions that are the same, the same demonias if you get in the same thing, or the same entities.

So, they're not that you can't reveal, that if they're going to you, you're going to you, you have to maintain the silence. Yes, yes, so. And for that are things that I can

reveal the 100% because they're, like, like I said in my own principles. Okay. Something

yeah very personal between your deities and you? Well, yes, between those of

those of those deities and I do you. Okay. Oh, yeah, getting to that

point, me said that you may you're a master in the Buddha. What is

the budu? When the Buddha is a religion very an old, is a

religion that is a practically remember that all in Africa so

all in Africa then it comes in those times in the time of the time of the

of that of a how explain to that the people also we're going to

an example where he's met you a leon to a cova and let's

do that and he one no one was to say never more

me You know, then? So, there was a person, a person, a human, still was in, because it's very ancient. And with that, they'd,

they'd, they'd, they'd, and they'd, and the times, the people be the hierogryphical, no? In the wall, so, the images, for that you know, and the people say, ah, no,

he's cassering a, leoncito, but no, that has a significate that maybe not is

that he was that he was the leoncito the leoncuit he was a casual

and someone he said he took the the and at the final

he's he's he's giving a life real in the

in the in the in the enquis long on changing another

little there there a a little so but

but well we're we're we we're we're talking

of the loas me, the spirits ancestrales of the of the powers

also, of the powers of the land, of the powers of the airba, of the

the power of the sun, the, of the powers, of the power, for the world,

so, me, it's a divinidad a loa, a lot, not it's a,

it's a, a power, me, interesting, okay, me, and it's the,

the people it has very related to and I'm sure to the little to

the moukits that you can't in the tenders in the santeria and so. But that's

also of the other situation that the people don't understand that the boudoo not only

are not only some so much more than all that of all this with a simple

muke and it's like one once in a moment explain the the mucos

were for so always have always have existed the

munequito, because before they were not they were to be some of the like a

like of the of the of the there's there many there are

many people because remember that as the word in the term

of God Polvo we we're we we're we

we're we're so the time so how so so many

those times many those they were many times of

before in the times So they were a mulego of a barrow and even they'd have more formita

and they put the pareditas of the ojit and all the thing. It's a secret that I'm saying that

I'm going to that I'm okay but well independent of that so they were they were

many many things of how to make a little a man so, me understand that's

so it's with the car because also with the car of a certain animal

me entient but what was the finality to do the finality to

was to cure, curate to the people, to help. But as nothing could be like all

to all, there's there's much people who say, we're going to say, let's do,

this, the, the, the tribe of this, because he met you with,

I don't know, independently. And you had, you'd embruhable in those times,

and you were, I mean, I mean, I'm, here, I'm again, I'm

again, the maldd of the people, the of the It's like to destroy And you

Yeah, it's And you know, well, if you see for this, well, it's true for this, but also,

it's correct. It's the polvo zombie. Okay. Me, you know, it's the polvo zombie. What is the

polvo zombie? The polvo zombie is a polvo that you can, now see, that's used some certain

essences, some certain things, and you only do you only do you do, it's so plas

a person and you that person literally, literally, you're, literally, So,

they're and the person at a certain time, I can't reveal it can't, one,

they're going to, one will be in-see, or others no. Okay. Other, there's to do certain things to,

and so, to help them, but now see, that, imagine you, you, that you're

to get and you're in an, of a ta-o enthrated, and you start to , you're,

to, walk, to the sides, and you don't die of all the world thought that you

were born and you never you didn't. And you know, and actually for that

even the antiqued was implemented the the campan, no, the the campanita

but but the budu or so like the voodoo for the francces

he went to many places to Haiti that was one of the

of the the places that came to Haiti he

went so to There are many types of Boudou, you know, he's got

to Lusianna. Okay. Me, you know, he goes to, uh, well, you know,

you know, a much points, they're modified, but I always said, but I've said, for me,

the budu more powerful that there is the African and the African and the Indian, and I think yeah.

And is that I've got a doubt because it's a few years that we've got to talk about

about this time, both of Yoruba, as to Boudou, as of Paloma Yombe, that have their origins, but they're going to

you know, to do you to find out of all the world, the people then then they also with other

situations because a example, in Mexico is much in the cult of the Santa Morte.

It has something to be, the Santa Morte or no, no, no, it has nothing to

do anything nothing to be nothing. There's no. There's no no Rocco,

I don't have to be the palomayumbe nor the santaia or the other

religion. The budu is pure. The budu is a religion pura. It's a

religion, now so it's in the same way when I'm to invoke what I'm

to invoke, the energy is very different. Poweros. Poweros so to do you.

Okay. But but very different. Because there people It's that is that

so so it's so it's an energy negative a lot of that's a what's

what I'm what I'm when I get to do you to dockeria to people there are

people that are hospitalized and pass the time and even they're to do

to clean and and not function to your clean because

because the budd is very very contaminant put you you

And you you put, or to the same clothes that you had the same before you took it's embrugated and you

did it, and you did, but you took the roba and then you don't know and then you don't know

that's always. That's you, you know, then the that you halla, imagineate,

you have literally to get to get to get to your robes? Sure, then how you're going to do that?

And if you you're going to do you? In a room, hospitalized, how you're going to do? Oh, so complicated, eh. So what happens is you, you know, you're going? So, so. So, you know, there's various videos in Internet.

A bit, you know, you're the master in this? Of the, little, like, rituals that do people of, like, like, like, like, like, where there's like a bulte of paha and this, they're moving. They're like, no-se-sse-you-law-as-vis. That's, like, there's many people. reunities. And it begins to give

a world. What on with that? Well, that's what you're going to? Well, that's something of spirituality. So, no, is someone that's going to be. No, no, no, no. That's a power, independently a power that, the power of that is what makes that that's a world, it's a world. It's a spirit. It's a spirit

malignant. Well, as well, as well, as you can't, be. Yeah. Acquarets of that, no, there's spirit always I've said. And even, as far as or the brokeries that we've not been not there's no

there's not there's not there no, no, no, there's divinidad

mal she she does she does her work, what you do you

get to then. So, this spirit of the of the man,

the, so, it's, the, of how it's, but all this

is spiritual. Yeah. That's spiritual, that's that gives his trotado,

that does you've seen when they they're they're in, and they're the divinidad

there's a yeah, and at a moment was so that's a but it but it appeared

there's and there's there's they've done that they've put, and they've put to see

that they because that's spiritual there's there's expert experts who have been the movement

of the man of the paha or the how is that they're because they're in

the passos but but all those are those are so

those so so so Haitian has because they're

very different the budu Haitian and the budu African are very different but are

so it's like a minute and it's like what I'm how you I'm going to I'm not

there's a that's not in it's that's Africa in Africa because that is

another because that's other there are certain secretos that's what the people don't

know what the people don't there's there there there's some vibrations that live

there. And if you you want to you want to you want to you have to get to Africa see,

or at least that you know, a person that you have a, but the Bavale, not is the

same Bavale, I mean, it's the same but it's the same. I don't know how

explain to that you don't know I can't to reveal the secreto, but the

essence is it's equal but there certain gyrbas that

there are in Haiti. Okay. Me, you know, every one has your own own

their own the essence of the Basque, African, yes, but put you

you, that's it's made more, I think that the Buddhist was,

the Boudoo Aitian evolved than the African because they got them because they got them

came, they're getting, they're getting of the people, and part of the people,

I'mtian, IIT. So, they've they had got to get that independently

of that they were they're when they they were when they passed a certain certain

a number of years they were and garage they were they were of the of the

of the know of all the know of they were they were they're they took

to do their their their own their their their same

so so so proper invoc another a a force that

siren the loas of Africa but to get that and modify certain things.

Okay. So, they're and they're all the Frenches. Me, you know, so in

envenenamient and so both, and both the other the way they're and they

and they got them and they and even. And even they put their own for the

Frenches for that for the people were saying like what you like

you said, you you've got you that you also you also,

you know, it's not what you don't do you know, but you know, so

that's that's a budu so much because it's a budu very pure so,

me explain. Now so, now, yeah, you know, you're getting,

for the love, for the people that are very bad in the economy because they're not

a manas or a broadgeria and independently for the prosperity, for the love,

to destroy Yeah. Me, I mean? Oh, yeah, there in the

budu you have to have to be or do a or do some case very

very very dark, but I don't know for example someone that you

have got that you have had an an malifio but

that's that they have been that they have done to do that you well,

for me it's more the same thing that I do you know, then then so

I know, so I know, How is the science? Me, you know, how is the vibration? Okay.

So, then you do do, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, I'm a lot of, I said, I'm posseid.

Okay. You know, me has passed, then then, then I'm not not I'm talking. Yeah. Me,

you know, and there's a person that's, he's, so, you know, to keep them, to get to the

malifio, because there's there's very difficult to get to, and more when are, and more when they're

about, when they're not, It's what you ingeers, comid, is that, oh, you know, you know, me, you've got to take here, this, a pastelito, you've got a X

no, no, no, no. But, no, a me, have applied that, yeah. So, you know, have you? Sure.

So, you've got to ingerial? Sure, that I've got to ingerial. Wow. But I know, I know that's a brou, I'm going to give,

who I'm, the why? If you know, so you know, yeah, because have been seen people, have seen people

to getas and they're probing me to be at how much I've got to the food I know

I'm doing and I'm done so I'm like that I'm coming so that he'll be that no

he's going to get nothing there and then there's there's a vibration

in the budu that the panza so that's that's so yeah

me when you when back the back the panza when sub the mar

sub to the man Baja, I'm going, I'm going to have a panse that, for a moment, I had a gigantecate, and, of a bit, but me let's go a little, reposal, because something I'm

that I like to leave the brugheria, because me makes more strong, me makes, like, more, you know, for the day that I'm another comidita, and I want, I, so, my, my spirituality about, you know, okay. So, there's, there's times that I've got to sack

from a person that they've done, changing because no, I don't the story of how I Cure.

But I'm about another person the which I get to a cucarache of the

stomach. For me a middle of a brogheria Boodoo. I mean he's

got a catach and it got a little like a omic if it would

have been picaed for a little so I'm don't know how that's

you know vomiting. Momitando because it's a lavatory because it's a lavatory

for that you botes all that that vibration and were A Cuccaracha, that did in my day of this, I didn't know that I didn't know that I didn't know that I saw it was a cucarachia. Yes, yes, she's, she's, she's, I never had seen as if I was seen, for sonora, for there.

But, boomit those person, vomit it, vomit to a cucaracha. Me, you know, and so, he's, all the science. Yeah. Me, you know, in a tank, how would say this? A cubeta. The coveta. The cvettes. I put, me, you know, or with certain vibrations of barrens.

and the person commenced and the man to see how he said, he was going to go to and he was

all over because they did you know because they're something and that's some brokeria budu

yeah you've you've you've you've got to people people who

get with different brus for example no budu for example that yeah that's

sateria that that's Santa Morte that you that's some famous entregas

or something more demoniac I think about in amitos Judeo-Christianos? I mean, I'm wondering

that I don't understand. If you had talked to help, people who are people who are doing

but they're not being working with not with some other burgheries. For example, these

famous of the Santa Morte, that I don't see, sateria,

magia magia. Yeah, yeah, I've talked, me has I've been touched, but

but I feel that those vibrations are more more easy to get it. Okay, it's

something for you. It's something for me. For me, with what I've talked to

guerriar much, or you have been with other maestro, Boodoo. Okay.

Me you've said, oh, now, now, now, now,

I'm that this, because no, at least no recognize the energy.

Yes. Me understand, because me mandar maybe with a

and then then they're going to you know this is like a game of aheader's where you

do you do that's a bad place in hake-mate so then you have to

know you know in the thing of the so so for you

so is something is something is something is something so that for me is very fast

okay very very fast the time when they when they mandan with

that type of things. One question yeah to finalize this

this, we're this interview of all what you have done

and all what you have about experiences fertes how you

you do an exorcism well a exorcism evident they have

more people because the energy has because the energy

has to be to the exorcite, there's a certain orations to exorcising certain. Certains orations

that a sometimes don't not even with the term of God. And God give the

power and this spirit or not. Here, no. Here, really there's

certain orations, certain can't, you know, certain can't, so,

certain, I'm, so, for that so, because there certain, there's certain

people that are bad, me But independently, it was because they were they were the manned that they're in

and you see the person and the person and you know, but you know, for that's good to have the spiritism

and have certain things, because you converses with that demonio so you can't talk with

him. Sure, I converso with that. I'm so, I'm understand, I know what

I do the famous tratado. Okay. I do a contracto, I'm a negotiation

with that with this demonio as they they say that me can't the point

because a lot of not some not are the people are good so they're for the

people who are for the people who don't know but they're so they're but but independently

but they do certain certain ceremonies they they're they're some

things in some they're there there's there there's there

to get to the matter where they they're getting

but but independently of that for so you you have to

you you you're to you to the demon who I live there. Okay. Me, you know, how you're going to

negotiate that and for that you have to be a medium. Why is it? Because a medium no, we're going to to ask, about, a medium,

you know, how can communicate with a spirit, without any any one only one and you, they're

talking, here. And you know, you know, how you're going to to, to, to,

to, to get to to ask with Chalong or you're going to ask a question with and you

get to say no, you have to have to talk about you I'm going to and I'm saying that's

the spirit to know what I'm talking me and then then so yeah I get the negotiation and then

there are some who don't see but independently for that's the embollllllllion that you get you

get you chupas that so but when are entities so very demoniac you have to have much

careful because when you sackas those, you can't you get to the person

a lot of or he can do a parro cardiac so it has to do very, very well.

Not you can't say all the secretes because there are things that are secreted

but all they're with much science cantico orations that no have nothing

with the Bible and that of certain certain certain certain some

there are there are you definitely you know they want to go. Okay.

Of the person. They want to they're going to get to get to the person. Me, you know,

so here is where I'm there's a secret that's that I'm can't talk for that the person

be able to get a okay. And that's when that's they have to time. Yeah.

Because if no, you know, it's he's great impressive, Ismael. Tremendra

plattika us we've got to venting. Oh, yeah, we can record to

your social? Ismail O'Gan. Okay, in Instagram. Ismael O'Gan. Okay. Look, that I'm

that I'm in the science that I don't even as a person, a secretary, and a secretary that's what I'm what they're doing. I'm going to

get a second. I'm going to have a second. If you know, there's always, you know, there's a point in the

exactly. Exactly. Also, also. Also, also in the description we'll let us

directs for that the people go and know and know and know, you thank you.

I'm sorry much that you have accepted the invitation. Yes, I'm

there's invited. And you're invited too for you don't know normally

I'm not I'm never even my deida but that you go and you

see the energy, the vibrations of that that the power that's the power

to get you I'm going to let me let me thank you thank you for for darts

you time to come and I'm I'm I'm I'm

in different religions, that are situations like you do you know like you're not things that are things that you can't

say but all what you do you really I'm very I'm very thank you thank you thank you

so much and family you know you know we have we have a meeting the next

day of because you know you know we're we're we're we're next so family

we're seeing in the next. Thank you.