EXTRA ANORMAL - 151 | Santa Muerte: Anécdotas y Leyendas con Jesús de Nazareth

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

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This idea is very celosa. For there I've heard, if you're you're going to you're going to because if not you dole, it's cobber

very caro. You know, in what case if my mother that was a celos? That no

could have an image of the Virgin of Guadalupe in one occasion a man

he goes to his house has a presentiment very strange about his

his his his he's to open the door not can

open and he try not his his his open

a force because I don't I remember to get to

his his wife and he and he he

and his wife he he was in his house

he was in his house. The problem of all this is that the two were in

life. Hello, what How much? Beenews a one a chapter more of a podcast

extra normal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be here with this occasion

I'm content because he's a good a good a good to get a podcast

and not only in the podcast but here in the Chirras Guajcanas with me

is Nazareth how you're very good thank thank thank thank

how you you have talked here the people of Tuxpec. No, excellent. Me,

I've passed very good to be a good at least to visit the yeah, the cald of the powder

that we're what you're that's what you do you know, well, with what I know,

the food has been very that's been I've been really, I've enjoyed much. That's let's say

let me tell you let's say me tell you that's a man, oh, oh, I, oh, oh,

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of the family that here we all we're all we're all all the people like you that's in you that's

you're going to get the realta the thank you and we're going to start with this thing because

oh it's a thing that's a thing that it's a very much many times I said

that no I'm that simply oh and like he like he thought much

and I'm honest it's a thing because many people have their faith

but in this occasion not we we're not we're going to talk more than we're

to referriness to anecdotas Santa Morte Santa Morte of my favorites

Yes it's a thing I'm impact a much because me have

been many have been with this deidad many people just in

Mexico is the country where is the they're a major tribute to this

have They have the faith placed in She's, they're talking of miracles, they're also of things very assombrose. And in this,

in this capitol, we're going to talk about of a anecdote, about I know of your voice that you know,

that you are very a fin of the creencia of Santa Morte. So, I'd

know your point of your point of what in what is Nazareth? Well, this

this, this affinity for the Santa Morty, more than is for all these things

that I said to my mother, that he did I'm a cult, but a cult of

unid with brujeria. Okay. So, for there, since I

was a new, I've always used to be the image that that image

blank of the, of the calaver vestida of black. So, it's a

very common for me, something, even, fift, very curious that a

sometimes me I'm a place that I don't see, if I'm

with people, with some people that are people who are in a

house of a person you get and you get a recint to the

I'm I'm I'm so like when we're in the

point of the frayle that we know there's here there's

here there and here there so so so so

me, that's I don't you do a fear. No, me do you know,

let me say that when I'm a little when I'm there's a moment in that I

knew that's that I'm really the really the figure without a person, then it's

impacta. Yeah, to who who's who's to be a calaver. Sure.

So it's rare and less a little a little. So, so, so,

so, so, so, then it does it is a fear, being

being, so a little, but conform I went I grew

the I did like a image that I hear I've I've

heard a much people that say I'm people people

that people who have sent family very very very

that the is very repetitive so they they don't

because for them more there is a way

they they're so something like like the like the paralysis of the or so

they're in their times they're in the eyes they're in they're they're

but not so they're but in front of this figure and always the figure is described

like a a time quite great so not we

not we're not we're not we're not about about we're that they're

two meters or more totally Alta the Rostro Medio Illuminated

because as in the obscurity not can't see to but it's this adid because it's

now the calaver and the and they and they're extending the hand the man

so it's so it's so many people have taken this so you think you

think about this I think I think they're I think I'm

in my form to be the things I think that the person depending on for the situation

that's going to be going to so I'm so I'm a question there's a question I think

I think I said all the team extra normal but in my case I took

a paralysis is the only paralysis of the dream that I've never

never never never never never never never of what

what happened. But I'll talk about my mom had a image

very characteristic of the Santa Morte of the Santa Morte

Blanca and when she she had in her recintos

where put his work the work a a

little a place where she she was she

put his and put his and so we

we we we we I remember that in a occasion being an adolescent, fiatte

how I I was in my camera I was I was clearly I'm I'm

I'm but I don't I'm I'm I'm a opresion

in my pecho and in the stomach and I felt like disrendido

of my body okay so even seeing the oppression me

I of a house very enormous and those passages me led directly to the image that I always

all my life I in the house and when I was I was I wasperte so I never

I never I never I never what was some people said you you know you're of

some other that was not a certain something some other said it was the

was the something that was that was but never or sub-interpreted. There you go to the other

case. What we were in they're at a sustos. When I was in a

company working, I was in a situation a very very strong. Here the situation

was in that months, I don't remember if it were months before, I,

I, I, I, with the death, with the In the area of Saguayo, there's a monument to Christo-Rei. In the Christo-Rei is very similar to Christ-Rei of the Cerro of Cubilete,

that's in Guantua. Me soned in a house that was just the side of this Christ, rarestim, because there no is nothing more than the pure Christ. A house great, house antigua, and me sonned with the murder, siding with the guadana,

like trying to peg me with the guadana and I goreying. So I ran for

a house a house very great of the antigues that were like asientas

and when the, the murder me coretea I, I saw the part

of the front that people armed and were and atormentable

to people who were in the thing. But a you not to

do you did nothing. A me not nothing because I was preoccupied

that the murdering. But they they were? Never me saw, like if you were invisible?

No, like if were invisible, but as the way, I'm going I'm going because the

death of me and these people are going to and I go and I go and they're back

of them. They're they're not they're in that so I'm in this surprise to

No, the interesting or what I'm strained in this situation is that I never ever have dreams. Very rare. So, like, like, always I'm very in peace. No, no, I don't have conflict

to anyone with nobody or things like, I'm very stressed. So, I think that that makes that no have no dreams

or nothing. Okay. Metses after, my work, in the company of ambulances, in that I'm

I didn't have people Arvadas Assaulted Hasoled? Hasoled That these people They got to

To get a medical They got to get a medical Yeah And ran to my

chiefs Encarned To get Toes Toes Toes Toes Toes

And To Who To even to Who? To To me To me

To me To I I'm I I I In

the banos. Uh-huh. If I I had been in the banos

and unfortunately, a me not me they were not. A me no me

did not and then some people did this situation. So, then after when it

was all this in this company has been of this I could say, four

years, more or less or less. Uh, after this I, I was

it was a, it was a was a protecting. I was protecting yeah.

A protection She's made For the Santa Morde So I'm Okay Yeah,

yeah It's actually It's It's really It's I'm actually I'm a question

Nazareth Why you think this Deidat is very attacked by the people

Because Because Well, look Who Who not attack to a

image Oh, I'll say I'll do with all respect I'll

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm because it's fea

because it's a calaca a, a, a, a, a,

one can do so, so, very few people who can be in the badger

in the image, can do it, I think, I think, like, like,

as much of the plattics that we've done, the syncretism that is,

that's, for detrase of the image, very few people don't

understand, so, even it Refleja with those With the Sanderos. They're also They're also

They're also His deities Detraise of the Iglesia Yeah So much There's so So much of

The people No have Sabid Interpretar No have See that we're We're

We're To our Deidates Before of the conquists That's The Santa Morte

They've Since of before. Muchissimo before. Of the colonization. Of that

it's being being being part of our race of all our ancestors. Like Mexicanos clearly.

Like, as that is the name? If I'm if I'm if I'm if I'm

think of correct me my clante Kutli or Wichilopostly I think is my Klantekutli

is the, is the, yes, the DOSA the DOS of the Murt. And apart

is Wichido Postley That is the God of the infamunded. I'm not in this moment To confirm it and not to say Sandeces

Yeah Yeah, yeah So, yeah For not not Equipocutli is the Lord of the

land of the Mewrtos Okay He is My Clantekutli So we So we We're basically

That's Asteca That's Aos Ateca That is That's a That's

is ridding occult by the figure of the Santa Morty. That's

that's what we go to get to the colonizers get to all this they're saying

ah this is a this is a saint and the people we're we're saying

let wait a wait but if I have a a god a

a god for this this for me is a this what is what

is what is what there there there there there that's.

That's that's that's always always it's a and for there

we're talking with a form of a little a little problem in the Virgant of

Guadalupe amy is that the figure of Guadup is a thing that I

talk with pincitas but it's very very for to make

the the postly that he has a last he's the

he is the God the so then no no no

I think it's The God of the infamund and the god of the death of the most we're talking Is correct

the theme for example of what what happens with the virgin is that I think there's a

Mexican that's that's that's behind the of the image of the virgin

let me looker because the is that is that they're they're they're

they're and in the description is very similar so Tonansin

Tonanzin so Tonansin's let me let me because I want to look I've seen. I've never seen. They're saying

that basically the image is the image that you're going to be seeing. Okay, yeah I

see. The I'm seeing. Well, is a woman of a pietra. As yes.

Rasgos indigenas. But the thing of why, because directly the

they compare or they they're they're they're they're sincerely I don't

remember what is I don't I don't if it's the mother of the

earth but to this to this deity she was the she was

the mother is the god the mothernidad exactly of the

gerbos yes yeah and for there yeah yeah yeah

practically is that that they're they're like a deid

in the in the one a mother so a mother so there there

that this is, you're saying practically everything and they're in Palman with the

Virgin of Guadalupe that is the mother of all the mother of those Latin-americanos then what is what

what's what's very curiously all the continents have a virgincita even I've

even I've seen some representations of virgins that with all respect I've seen even even

even orientals okay With, with rascals of a person Japanese or China, then we're we need to be a image of a virgin

morena, morena, like us. So, there are syncretisms. Here, many people, even they

even call her Tonanzi. To say, to the Virgin to be? To be? To the Virgin of Guadalupe.

So, not are the same. No, but there are the syncretism in all these situations. So it's the same

that's the same that's people who are people who are people who are Christians for them

there's no there's a cabida for this image that at a certain point they're right

in an aspect not more that it can't be a because it needs to

pass for certain requisitification canonization canonization like for that's a saint

but if for me is a Santa, well, what more, what more does? Exactly.

So, I think it's more that's more that's a but it's an image that ultimately

has been getting much popularity. Of the actually, and I want to tell an anecdote

that they sent out of the email, this, just it's just about this

thing. This person me I'm saying Paco, I want to talk an anecdote

that I do a much a picture. See what I know a person

that for questions laborals, I had to get to get me with her suppose we

know to you know to you but I can't well but but for

questions of the work I have to be basically in contact

with you and here he does what some they're like

hypocrisia or or be political too so so

house, because I don't know they've done after after the time after after the work,

and they're that one he was to get to get to the house, no. Supposedamely,

he's Paco, the really, with all the time, the type me came

a bad, but I had to be to be to another car. Yeah,

um, he was he was to get a document and to them he was, he was

to get a job a job of a in a kind of a pastelito

that he had He, he recognizes that He's not, because he's saying. Yes, because it was a simple perception of that, well, he said a mal. Sure, exactly. He came a bad.

For what I got to understand in the context, he wanted the... Because he had a place laboral. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

like, I think to him put it in the place of this person, it's generated, like, this conflict. So, then, he's, what is, I was, I'm going to

to have a a work of a in a pastel with the documentes

Well, I go to your house, I'm nobody nobody and

and just when I was I'm going to me I'm a

woman. What rar is that this woman does mean,

no see, more more than the normal of a woman in

Mexico, no so what so a woman was very,

much for above of his proportions. Very very very great. It's a

woman very very very delgated. So, the part of the back of the

mehia is like a calaverica. The undiment. The undimient had his extremities,

his arms, very large, very very delgated. And she me open the

door and me say, what you want you here? No, well, I'm

to look to a fulando of the I'm to this, this,

so this, this, and a present and says the woman said the woman's me kept

looking a car very but a form very strange so like

I'm like what I was yeah and this and this woman

take the documents agar the pastel or yeah because

it was like in a contendid a container of those that's that

he got the and he he gets being and he said get

this this not going to this is not why it's part of gettel said in this

moment he put in my hands and me seeer the door I'm I'm I'm so I'm

that one that one I know her she's not her she's not who was

who why me regress that so so he's that he

he he no he he's he he made this person to say

he he had he had I've left the documents and he he makes a

phone and he says oh you know that you know that's you know I'm

you know the the archives pendent and I received a woman

but the fact he said that's he said he said because he

thought he was he was because his vestiment not

he said his vestiment was a vestiment was a very typical

with with a vestido colors exactly so so

Then he said, who no received? He said, well, he's a woman. Me, he's treated the caracazas. He says, in my house, no, my spouse and, I'm here with me.

How? And the signara, he's not, he says, no, he's nobody in my house. The only person

that is my, is my, my, my little, to the, I was incomendated to my house, and

she's there she was her, but she was He said with a... With a security. And he was where chocked

in that moment his cables and he's he's out of because he didn't because he no he's received

the pastel. The protection of the Santa. Exactly. So I'm so I'm so I'm understood that

for those fieles is a protection that's a strong. Sure that you. What do you?

What do you do you? I can't do you do you can't imagine with As a friend, as you know, I'm a technical in emergencies

medics. Yes. In some time that I'm working in protection civil and bombers of my

city, we know we're talking to attend of all type of situations. I'll

I'm that I said where I was totally impressioned and kind of

also to a certain point because attended a person that was protected

by the Santa Morte. This person was a work of the

market local of my city okay this this sir

he's found in I don't see you have seen what are

the car of the food and that sometimes

they're up those they want to do until

the copete of yes yes so this person

was he was so this person I'm not

so so select not or discovering the the fruits or

vegetables that they were going to that's a certain point is very dangerous very very dangerous

imagine a person epileptic above of this look no how you think

the the he was so so imagine imagine that in the same

of this carmion he did a attack he can't of

a pure case man I'm so I'm talking that they're

around around of four five five more or

more of the amount to me, I think that that man is... She's... There's... There's...

...are in the... ...as there in the same place. ...activ in the number of emergencies and

I'm to go to get to the place. Okay. I'm going, I'm... I'm... ...wee

a scalp... A lot of a lot of from the front, to the part of the back to the

body of the bodyude, much blood. So, he was a yes. Yeah. So,

he was... Much, much... So, a... So, a... ... ...a... ...

tenders, contubbed hemorrhages, we've seen to the ambulance, the attack epileptical you have passed, has to

a count that when after a attack epileptico there is a state of lethargo, as to

make the people get like as like as if were in ascentes. Okay. So,

more or so, this sir, he got to the hospital and they they're to ender.

I'm sincerely I thought, because, because the is in the case

of your simple altitude my so are fatals are very very

very dangerous this this man was that's a tattooed the Santa

Morte in a so so there was where I

said here there there's there I was I was I was I'm

present to the patient patient with hospital is so and so

and so so patient with the people and there

he received the medical I mean, when I took to go to get to get to

get to get to the hospital the manned like that's like that oh manches

like that but there you go to make the most impressionant when when it

was around a year activated the service medical of emergency again after

after that after that I know I know I know I'm no super I'm

well well I'm well it was it was it

was activated the service medical of urgencies. Me to

go to go directly to the market. We said there were an derogado

but never we never knew which we got and the

he was this man. But the so the thing

was that had an object on the thing

he was he got met so empal us we

called the empal ments so then so an

object of this time in the cooge here. Oh, the life. For us

in the area hospitalary for us something that's something because there are the veins that are

the veins the arteries principal that are in the brain and other other thing

there are these are the areas that is for where we're where

we're whatever structure of these that's that's that's that's

that's the person was very tranquil was over some on the escalas

there of the market that are escalars of concrete and the person was still

with the cooel the what I was what I'm there was that no

a single gotita of the vital liquid and this is this

is so so man then so I was

for to start my first service where I saw an object

empalado. Okay. Not is common. No is a little common, a less

of the well, for the kind of in this type of cases, no.

Okay. So, so I'm doing this this to my boy, I'm sure. I said,

no, no, no, no, manches. Firtisimertissimo. In the protocol it's

we need to immobilize the object to try to not to be so because

if it is when the problem. Exactly. It has to pass

for a process chirurgical for that he can to try this person

when I intend to immobilized I said when we move us when we we move

we're going to hangar no no no I don't and you

have been mobilized with his gases with all so it has to

have to cover the object for that nothing we

we subed in the ambulance very very so

I think that the I think I was in a state of lethargo

for the same that I said of the attacks epileptics and when we're getting

to the hospital I'll give the medical the medical because not is

a common and a man he said this person like she said they did

a syrujia obviously for the but after you do you do you do you

do you do you do you to the day next it's it's like

it's but it's one of these people that I'm not a me not

to have to be to the frugated or so people I

don't know his character he helped too I was too

I yeah I I think yeah I but

but but what me offended was this of the

this this she incomend to the image of

the well maybe this coincid you see you

know that a person that he just two times

basically that he did he in a better in the other

world then the how do you the is the this there's there's

there's that I basically like a sort of one of one of

those one of his one of and she go and

go and he go exactly exactly so so I'm

I'm I'm admit something I'm I'm I'm with

a the deities, but I respect I, you're my friend, boy, and no, for that's And so, and so, so, so, so, so that's always is what I mean has made, the respect that I've had been to have been to talk about with conversations, with persons,

yeah, say, that they're in a crency, even satanical, agnosticos, adores, the death of the murder, or so, that's a problem. Exactly, with all, exactly, with all, no, but I, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking that you can't have a conversation

very amena and very interesting, because I'm know I don't know what I know of the other person's

his experiences but the the time of Santa Morty is a thing I'm piqued

in Mexico as you do you do you have many people who are affines yeah

the time of when they're tattooed yeah I remember also when fifate

this this what I know a much a friend that I

send a she she she to the magia. So, also not he

doesn't work with Santa Morty, he's more of the side of magic. And he

gave a one occasion, this anecdote to the she told her in the interview but

so I tell you a little a little a little a little. And this

she said that she said that had a attackes like that something like that

was but this she was a final to the dida of the Santa

Morte. Yes. So When I said, when I Intented Canalisar to this woman, I don't say, and that's rare, because normally I canalize anyone, I can't even if I

try someone and it do I do. But in this occasion it was a rarer because no could, no could enter. And me had a vision of a thing quite great. And just that I saw the face, I did count that was the

Santa Morty. So, So I I didn't that I'm talking to and I said to

the lady to tell her that's that for favor me I'm

do you do that what I don't she me said she only

I just saw the just after of the second he said yeah

okay I'm going to canal to be to see and

now so it he is curious how What interesting. So,

how she had to give her to give her and say, like, oh, yeah,

she's to get a yeah, the detail is that she she's, she, she,

to get her to get a protection and she and she kept to a costada, remember

that in a first I said that she had that I started to poster.

And she said that she said, he said, he said, he said, and the coo he

He started to turn and he said he said he said when I

see a person that makes to make this is indication indication of danger

of I'm I'm I'm my mom to my mom that's

my my master that why because because remember

he he said he he said and if yeah I had

I could enter and he no he he he was

to recost a recosted a recostar a RAT she Ent the

It attacked. The attack. So, there so there is a theme as a exorcism, as a

non-exorcism, as a because she did it basically, that she quitter the protection

to be able to the same time, there was an idea that, pardon, an entity that was,

practically he quit the protection that had. It's correct. So, that part me impression

much, because And not only that I've called that I've read by the

through the callers that I get in and you help me to understand this

this idea is very zealosa for I've heard if you do you

if if you promise if you you you need you you need

because if you know you it they they're they

they're they they're so and I do overtam

that I have read much What can certain is? I think it's a

okay well until okay to see in my experience in what I

know in what I have lived you know you know in what I said my mother

that was a celos that no could have a image of the

Virgin of Guadalupe and so that was she was she was

she so that so so that so that not could be

to start to start to these, no, no, never. In

a lot of what is elosa, look, many of us as we've always

have used those myths. Okay. Because we've also some some other

stories that that they're that you know, you know, what so you,

if you, let's let's, let's let's say, for the things, there

completely. But if you you, you'll promise something to the Santa and you

say, Santita, Cumple me with this. And if me do you do you

tomorrow you know, I'm going to go to do you I'm going to do a misa

like for example. And no you know you know and you do you do not

what will be going to do is that is that is that is that's

okay that is what is what is quittar a not you to get a

to end up it's no, no, no to pass nothing, it's like a

other even I think I'm even I try to say, you know, I

do it with other saints, with the saints or with any other other

deity. Okay. Yeah, because me got topado and as you

as well you say I'm toped with that no, that me quito

a that he that's that my work, because for example

rapidly really to the case of a young I think is at Laxcala

Disculp me Juan Martines I think what's he called

he he he commented in a he he was a

but he he started and he was so

and he he had a man he had

to a little a little and he he

was I think he was I think he he was

basically very very a detail I put the

lavar-alta, I mean remunerated, of time flexible, that's in good conditions,

I said, to be, if you're sure, if you do do it, if you doelite, you put your

dweilita, you know, I don't know what I'm saying, because, it's a mere recommendation of an friend that he was going

very well. He said, as a art of magic, Well, at the few days me are the one of

the work of the work that I went into documents there by one on a page of the

internet. It's chistoso because that that job when I did, I,

I was, I had to but I know that I'm going to call because

the fact I don't the preparation academic that they but I do it

like much in some moment of it now, well, now, I'm

to see. call. He they're they're they're very well to the person

that's the person who he's the resources human pass the second

filter compete with other two and he he gets a exam and he

he's he gets in the employment he does the detail is that he

he says in his relato is that the first he he was

he still coming but after he started to get to get

with with Fiesta with the friends He'd He'd He'd He'd

Yeah, the Mancansans yeah the other day or the days after And he He was

He'd He'd He'd He'd He'd Dere'd So So,

So, So, So, So, Yeah, No, He'd Not was

He'd Yeah, And, and a And, and And, and after to do And, pardon,

He'd And better than He said That's The Puer The Puerter The Department

no there was in one of those that's that he tried

to make the the altar that he had to make to make to

and then he was he didn't he imagine to imagine no and in

one of that in one of that they came with certain

certain things chueques but that not for a

but they're they're they're they they're in this moment

he he's he say oh so it coincidencia or no

it? He quit what he did. Yeah. So, so, if practically

I think that I think I could take what he did what he did, because if you

did it, well, then you have to do you have to do this situations

where I say, that I'm that they can't bad, we're remember the

image of the three friends. If the that there that there that

there possibly interview to the doctor that he offered to his his friends

to offerend to the Santa Morty. No, the he was inconsientement exactly.

Exactly. The one he said, he's not that he can't appear that can't appear to

that he doesn't I don't no, I don't have no, I don't know what we're like with the dog, a passamontagia.

Yeah, but that's great there's been more than the more than the Moodcast. Yeah, okay.

I've got another The problem of the cults to the Santa Morty, to my point of view, that's this type of stories. This story, an man, no, me, made to have to have a cabarra.

For there, but not we've had a chance, but let's have to finish by here. This, this story the parted a chico of Tipito. If there's a cult

very strong to the Santa Morton, it's something very common. So, the chico says that his parents had a

know, you know, like your business, Hasel. So, I'm imagine,

a business where vendian, food a casher, that the chalachillas, that all

these things, so more or then so that these people,

practically of that they were their business of their business, in the

not see in the market precisely of tepito, but they were

to have some problems. They started to get to give them to to pay them to, how can't say

if you can't say they're in a quota. The right of the piece. The right of the people,

these people, those people, that don't have other other thing more than to delinquire.

It was that they were that they're a dayrio, diary, but there there was a moment in

that they they were insustainable. or they or they they paid to them or they'd

they'd they're in so they're so they're they're they're a recint to the santa

and these people they were they were a type of a type of ritual in the

that they were all the night practically velland to a side

of the image and they were they were and they they were some

they were some some when this child I saw the papas yeah

dormied to one on the altar to the heart, but the curious is

that I'm that I'm full of blood or something or like what and

that's this is this is he's? He said he his activities

normales after this bellatorio or no say what's what they

did his parents curious him all all so

he Yeah, no they got to to medentar and they're working as nothing.

A those messes, becinos of them in the business of the

food, they got with the periodical in this house of security. So,

she chas to chas a various people. So, then the manchch recognized

for the tattoos of these people, that were those were the people

were to pay the quotas. Yeah, they're in in a better

life. Yes. No. So, the papas said, ah, yes,

no, no, we need to do we need to do you let us do you know to make us

so, so, so the kid said, ah, well, he no he had affinity

for the image. So, so, not he didn't, he said that he

said that he'd even, he said, he'd he'd another difficulty.

One her man of this chico took an accident in a vehicle

And it was very grave. In the hospital, yeah they've said that he was to have consequences of death. They gave

the diagnostic. They said, yeah no there's nothing that's there. Because practically

I had had a murder for the impact. Okay. Those people are very affligedos

they're to be the same cult of to belar the image of the Santa all the

night So, it's the same that the last. The child,

when he when he when he's in the morning to get to the time,

he was going to get a father, he went to get to get to and he

got those with the with the vital liquid. And I go, well,

what's what's what's what's going to go to the school thinking

that that all going to be to not for those times his parents

had been indeutated and They had, this, I've had,

uh, all, you know, all they're to get to get a to get a to get a

little results that we're doing, we're doing, you know, after that they did they

did you the child, the chica, well, practically revivio. So,

it's, it's a murder. No, a miracle. That's a miracle. Sure.

Because that's something impossible. And then the chico, even so, seeing that

this had succeeded, no, no, not he had that that's

the image. He still had having a fear. He still was I'm

and at a certain point I despreciable. Okay. PAS all this,

the, the, the, the hermana is not a 100 because

he gets with some sequels like, kind with, with, she

coheating, with chueita of her but is a pass in some

years this chico commenced to go to the university and he

he mentions is the love of his life this she was her

during the entire this this professional so of

preparation and they they were in an accord so so

But, you know, they're from the university and the young, and the man said to

you know, I'm in my years with you, you're a person very good, but I'm

to say, that there there's a other. Oh, no. When they were to

get a soldier called, man, so. So, so this man,

then this man was super-enamor of her and he said, no me do you do this,

for favor, I, I love you, I am, for favor, not me

do you do this. Discultam but no, no, I'm can't

get so. After of this, result, that that's

that's that's what they did what I am I'm I'm

imagine so. Result of what says, teach me what was what they

did you did me and the papas no. No, we've what

was what what was this muchach, not you I don't you can't

do you know, you can't do you know, I'm sure you're got to

my my woman you're you're done those delinquents

can make me back with this woman for favor no

they not they did not they did the father so so

a man he he went he he went to and

he said velo to the image of the Santa Merte but

what do you think is that he he did? He gave his his and he did his his

his so when he gave the the image then

was he was practically to a lot of the recint

when when it was the moment that they went

to do you did was to do and the

image for to make the black and so

and all didn't you know that regressor the

mucha and the mucha was very affligated he says you know I think

that with this person was going to go to what I was my life my

life and no it was you you are my real love

so then this this man so this he's concreted

that they cast that they casar the father not were

because they were because they're they're the infidelity of the of the novia so that

that's yeah it was a 100% it was the man the the muchach

when they were she was she was he never he never knew if the

baby was of him or of the other or it but the question is in

that he always he was like his baby, like his he's my baby, although he's not

he's he said. He's she's always she was very carisnosed with him that she

always was always he's on an occasion a friend he goes to his

house he has a presentiment very strange about his his

his his his he gets to the house he try

he can't try and he doesn't his his because I don't remember if he perjave

or something he went to where she's his wife and he he's a woman with the

baby between the little he was in his house he was in the problem of all this

is that the two were in the two they were not even those both

so imagine what was the reaction of this a man when he saw what was the

result of your was a bad-eached and there you go for a I'm

try to investigate what was the problem oh yeah but it's very strong because the guy

he was the love of his life for he was for he was for his and his and his

and his he even for much to the he was he he quis

that he you know, that she said that she said that she had a lot of something like and he said

we're going to go to get a medical. No, no, no, but it's good.

But he's my friend. So, his, his, his, his, with the

baby, with the cordon still without without, so, so, so,

is that when me said, I said, I was, because I came to the image here in the

head, and I'm and then I'm like, I'm, so, so, that's,

so, and you, that I tried to to ask us parents but what was my fault

and he said he said you're you're you're a relation that

was obligated to not functionar she she she didn't be to be

you you're you and that was a consequence but where where

was where did the problem in the pedid so he did ignorantly

so what What was there? Two things. He gave his and the and the

blood that was in the house not was the blood of the same the same the same

was like it was like a kind of a type of but not they were to get to or something

but it was they were part of this this man this man I think

that he is the he was the no it was these chikas. And another aspect, that also is very important,

forso a relation that was destined to fracassar. Yeah. So, from the beginning, no, no, it was going to be, not it was

the course of the destiny. Something like, that's what was the very impressive. The story. Sure.

So, especially for the tragedy, no. I'm kept thinking, and I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, I'm talking, I'm

talking, I'm talking, but my Cerebro, I imagined the scene. I thought that the type if I went to encounter an scene of infidelity. Yes. I said, he was encountered there, doing things

intimate, but never I imagined that that was the result. Yeah, it's a very and is that this, I know, well, more people invited and a servitor,

we've talked about the famous amarras, but at the final of the country was a, it was a matter. It was a competition. And even it's. And although

it was a work of a drugeria like commonly they're doing, well, the water

of calcioncite, the water of the whole h, the mucy those mucus mudoo-amarrados there's like

a liston rojo I go independently and it was it was try to to have a

sometiment for a commetion this part for me out of the paranormal I'm

I'm infrasco more in the moral because that there are cases, for example,

I remember one that they told them for a lot ago, that's me told her for a time, the

chick is sincere and she said she said one of my tias that she was working

to the day of today of was, and I think that today today

they're being her her her her. The problem

my is that at the first was that all pretty the

detail is that the type she she started to describe that

he had, but she was she a rarer, she felt like a

she sent a strange. Additional, her matrimon was to be a lot of

the time. She said, well, I'm, but at the

same time, I'm he's he says, me want, but me

he says, so I think that is the price, so at final the price

to force something that not is, I, I, I remember the

words of other people who people who is that you know you have a time and at

the same you know you're not because you're really really the having it not you

don't have to do the thing you but not it's but not it's because

not not it's not it's like if you're a zombie for a

person that is a person who sometimes the sense of no say and

get a submetiment where does what you you're you're a

Sclavo. Here in my rancho when a woman I say to a man and they say

you're they're being they're in so we're in cullado yeah here they're

they're being men pendejole no the really are many things but

this thing me this time me impact a lot of yeah but in different

how we let us see how we're we're talking but if you right that

we're we're saying for Okay. My mom had his reglas for the

amarrs. Okay. They had your reglas. That's not he knows. Yes. There you

go. Like, for example, she said that an armre where the person

don't have an personal, is destined to to be to be a farcassar. So,

the amarrer is like a person like a person, like a...

An interaction emotional. Emotional. Were a nobios? They were nobios like

for example. There It can functionar. Yeah. There. No, I know, of the

actually I'll do in a video, he did an armre to Carrelii Ruiz. That's,

for God. That's, that I said too, one of the world that Imite that, because I said,

I go, and the time but then they're no, then, no, so no, and you know,

and you know, and he's not, and it's to what we want, so it has to have a

thing to that can be a kind of How you expect that you do a marre with a person

that that is in your country or in your city? Who is know that? Exactly. It has to

have a vincal. But my mother was mentioned like a like a woman.

But how that can be the thing? So, like we did we do we're

a thing, or a single, a company that's a person, but then he says,

but then it's a way, also in that aspect. When the relation yeah existed

or so like for example we were we're we're we're but

we're we're we're we're we're that that's that's

are destined to and there there's a there's a so yeah

of one of the two well of one of one of two parts or

of the two because like what what you say are

so are obsessive these these and no have nothing

to questions of questions of love of no there's no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, it's a thing to be

genuine, no, no, clean, pure and and live, so

so that's so they're those things. Oh, what, I mean, I think I never thought

to I'm to end up but but I think when we talk about

we're we're to go well, but forillied always I'm

not we don't we're we, we unimed much with the

bourgeria that always. always. Recintos of people that are in the bookeria, have your

image of the Santa Morty. And that's a question that I'm for the time to do you

yeah, exactly to finalize the chapter. Because there different colors in this

day of the I think there are browns I think there are black. So, because.

Look, much say, of the actually, well, we've talked in

some sometimes it's said that the colors represent to certain things

that can to try like for example the blue I think

the the I'm the the red the money

the black and the black for to make a for

protection but but believe my friend the color

that they don't no important what what important

is the intention sure obviously because you you could

you could you you a job of a work

with bel black but That's not I mean to say that's a

a work a black. Sure, sure. Tal qual is the

image of the Santa Morty. Impresonant me go with a

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