EXTRA ANORMAL - 162 | Evangelios que fueron Negados a los Hombres | Evangelio de María Magdalena

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

En este episodio revelador, exploramos a fondo el intrigante Evangelio de María Magdalena, una escritura que ha sido ocultada a lo largo de los siglos. Descubre las revelaciones y enseñanzas que estos textos han guardado celosamente. ¿Qué secretos revelan? ¡Acompáñanos en este viaje histórico y espiritual! 🕊️🔍 #EvangeliosProhibidos #MaríaMagdalena #misteriosespirituales  

We're going to be able to be. What are you going to be able to be a little bit more of podcast extra anormal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. This occasion, I'm content, family,

because me accompany a good friend of podcast, Oscar Herever. How is your man? Well, good, my friend, very happy to be here. It's an honor

always to be in this But today I feel very so I'm happy for the new studio.

Thank you what are it? Oh, it's pretty much it's pretty whenever these cruises

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already the creation of the content so I know and the majority of

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they like this, Adelante, who's not, now, now see, of compas, let's go, not by there.

In gusto, exactly. But we're going to start. The fact, I'm going to get to, you know,

because the Monday that was, the first, the chapter with the documentalista, about

about these things, but today, you, we're going to talk more a fond of this.

The fact is that I did with what we've talked to the documentalista. Yeah

passed some days of he, he He's in Merida.

I pegged some some books, some resumes, because not I'm not really all the

books apocryphos are, are many many soh but I

think I think I think I know the one and you are the indicado

to talk to talk to a person that the person that my respect

you know you know the thing of the Bible the you manage

very chido and so of it's a way

very digerable. Well, no see, the last time I came, the fact I'm

really out of I'm going to get in there a bit of a bit more. The way is past, and the neta, you've been

said, we've said, we've got to go to come, but if it's like, I don't know where I'm,

because it's accidented a little the episode where I'm where I'm when I'm talking about

this little this, irientes for some people, but we're going to see for the line of

the serieted. What I'm going to say to all the audience is that all the thing is that all what is going to do this moment not is

not my opinion or the opinion of Oscar is what comes in these that many has caused

intrigue all all all what he's going to be to commenter in this moment

will be textual it's all like literal as well in the written in the not is

my opinion not is the opinion of Oscar I'll I'll repeat for

to keep the thing because when when we don't not

not metem in this vertigente that we're a fact that

we're in it's very very irient for many people, for those people who are that's very

respectable, it's very repetable, and I respect to his credence and all this

or you know, or you think it or is valid now now so

we're now so we're we're we're but what you going to

hear is like an not profound but so

a say a detail of various books apocryph that we're to start

we're doing over the mess, many theories conspirative that can turn around and not precisely

I'm not about the book of because I think it's the book that the more that's

the more has been the most interesting even when you gogleas and you put to investigate no

it's not the books apocryphos that we call us not even of the old and

the new testament this and a sometimes and this what has what

has been to be to be about this because of this this

story of how was the exilio of Lucifer how they were

those angels, the angels and how they are

involved with the people and that and the messisage

the the angels and start to impart an knowledge

that there to be with with the magic with the

magic black the margular and there And there's a story a lot,

a bit of entertaining and quite mysterious with much this, fear, destruction. You'd

like that we'll let's go. I'm going to start with something. I want to hear you know

much the attention. The angel that he liked a much the war and he he's seen

the people the fact to create these escudos, armurururals, espades, strategies of

some people me It's called the attention because they're associing with the same Jehovah because

also another name that is Jehovah of the Elisitor someone who he likes a much

the war Oho, it's a vertient that's a this but here there's the

contraition this, here we talk about to an angel that's that does this

sentiment of the war, all the intention we we're about the

angels that as what is the hechiceria the cosmology

the burgeria the herbularia. All what has to be with the

knowledge of the land, of the elements, it's me make very interesting.

But more than the knowledge me put to think to at a certain

point if you have too too much or little to the world

the pyramids of Egypt all this you do you do you think

that is that it has with the the purpose of the

reason for that were exiliated not were in the thinking

that's God and of this Lucifer he wants to be venerated he's in the same way

and put us in the same position that God and a God's not this. The

people who know the history, they're coming back here. Obviously they're they're not we're not

we're not there. And a part of there start to start to get a with the

mythology, with the different mythologies, with the Greek, with the Roman,

with the Egyptian. And even there parameters very similar with the

mythology Azte. But I I'm totally with what I said to say. Something that me made

the attention is that recently, I'm starting to read the book of Kivalion, and this

I've talked in an interview. I don't remember if I've mentioned earlier in other

podcast, but to read some some simultaneously also me have

made make sure making some conclusions the fact of the

fact of the people, for example it's about, that it was the

influence of the life extraterrester not, about yet certainly in

themes of aliens, no, for the one, the positionment with the sun, the positionation

geographical, as many some paramedes of other places, like they're in this vertient,

like they're like they're put up like if had been to have this exactitude, many things

that have to be with the mystery of the pyramids and reading, for example,

the book, the idea to be a lot to do many people, it's no is

a grimorio to start. It's a of Desperty Spiritual, a

book that is a fact, or not? Because I don't you can tell.

It's that's what Marka Hermest and Megist and he

will make sure to question to certain things. Hermest Migistro

also is known as the master of the

master. Supposed it's one of the first people in

Egypt that received by the angels caid the

information about the Bruchery Even it's because I in some

moment erroneably I thought that the brewery had initiated in other place

where where I'm one of the one of the world that is Africa

no the bourgeria African that is one of the most

powerosos I think that proven there really really

the really the origin is Egypto so so

Hermester Megest is one of the person that

receive to receive to And of him, in this book, about,

that he came the old masters or old sabios that give the ensnance to Hermes,

to the India, that they have the teaching to Ermes, to Africa, Haiti,

a various countries. I, me cause the intrigue. One, where came the arangels

caithed, where there are you? So, we're going physically I know I say

that are things spiritual, but if we're that in some moment they've

to have to have a form physical. Much people are and

speculans of the meteorites and all these are speculations. But I consider

that if were to get to Egypt because there is where we can't

see this influence of this this this vertient

of that actually actually many experts historians not

have said and all is in base speculation

so is that and it did the antivos Homs but

we don't know how. It's also that these pyramids not

not are only like tautes of the bigs pharaohs and

it's a figure a figure specific due to the energy that

can be emanating to land to but but

and apart and on the term I consider

that that there in Egypt was where there

was the most the number of is where it's where it's

a bruteria and they're these angels caeos or also called the demonios to

share the human, oh, that also that you comment about that you said that

that's me just, I'm going to the magic in the sky, there's a question for

you. Do you think you that's that there's that you know? Well,

recient to what I know what I know, what I've seen, it's supposed that God

all all has the knowledge of all the creation. So, if you let

you put it that way, I think that's that they're at the moment in where they're getting

they're in this know they're they were where they were there was a much the magic

because they're they're transformed in the magic oscuna no. Something

I've always I've said is that the magic pure, the magic that has to

invoking deities Dioces or Demonyus, the magic Pura, that's a base of elements, I think that no is permitted to the man, because we're not our own naturalness, we're part of our naturalness. It's part of our

naturalness. And how we can we see? This also, also, I've mentioned in other podcasts. I'll put a example. The magic voodoo. The budu. The budu is known as when this mukechito, that has alfilers, and he has

in damage and at the same time, they're like synchronized with the person and the damage that's going to be doing to the muke, it's going to be doing to the person. Really, the magic budu was to do for sanar, to put a

distance. Obviously they were with different elements representing a person with a man, but the detail is when the person or the human discover that something that changes that all the panorama, discover that not only

only can't cure. So, it's there where came this contamination. I think that in the sky, there is magic. If there's also, for the

knowledge that there. Because, of some way, the angels had that had acquired that that was an form, but

not is not taught us to us over our own natural that all the thing, that all do it, that all does different,

that all it can be. And, and it's a broma, like a broma of that those angels

are expulsed that's in Egypt and where was the people of the people of in Egypt were enslaved

in Egypt so it's like a mal brauma of okay we're you know and in

Egypt we're we're we're we're some some little conclusions

to learn for example the keybalion a a little a book also

a little about the Bible of where the part of the exod but are

is that you're or not you generate something because you

think they're that's that there's that I'm more because there

different books and something apart is the same Nnok that is

considered one of the two people menas that are

they're they're so yeah and he and he didn't go to

come to this in the Bible in the other things quite interesting.

I like how it's going to the narrative of how the mix of what we've mentioned about

between the demons or the angels with the humans and then when you take you the book

to know, you know, you know what what's you know you know because there there's

there's because Jeobah is so insimimismado of having to have to play with other people?

Because you say a bit because a bit full of love he's

manned to create to other people. Here there's a reason

very very very of the principle of the so suppose

and this we talk and they're when there's when they

begin to see the biggants so those the biggantes

many times in the Bible that we're going to the

nephilin when when they when they when they they're to start a

certain that they are to cruis with the humans

and start to out of these, these, these, this, this, we're going to

call the mid-dioses, when God is one of the last many of the times that God,

with the humanity for the person who they're living. The dilubio not was innocent, I don't know

if you've seen this way. When God is, it's like, correcting a error?

Yes, yes, and no. Okay. It's the part of the part of the humanity.

We're talking from the context historical of the Bible partying of Enok.

that you to show these when God when God decided to make

the dilubio and the history that you know that he does

the ark and it's about the and it's the thing

to end with the not if you have seen you have

seen the humanity we're to let's say to

let's to put to let's again again to

again again these these are not they don't

they because because then the part of what we're

we're in the there's when there this war when there the warreos and the

Israelites that we that we're that we're that's true we're having we're like how

how time how time it was the how much the arca of the after when

they're in buska of the land there no it no it's

so because still still because for Jose, the soniator. Yes, for Jose.

Yeah, he interpreted the dreams of the pharaoh. And they'd yeah there's because his brothers no

they're not they're the... Yeah, so it's he's regalado, no? Uh-huh. So,

they're there in Egypt, he came well, the farahone and get the accord to abrigar

to his family and there and there's in the Egypt's, in Egypt, and he starts the

time, he's to move this faron and sub the other and is when it's

when you're visitas and they're slas then there's so it's a lot of

the part of the exud that is what we're they're they're when Moses

when Moises he goes to give to the land the people you know you're

to make a a 12 that are mentioned in the Bible that just Josue

and Calep and and they go to this effectively is an

really a explorers Oh, is a place with much abundance, food, where it's a lot and the milk, says the Bible.

The detail is that when these explorers get to this place and see a the people that abit there, they're spantan and they're

and they're giganties. That's rarestim, boy. So, that they've never to be born to make, or they're coming

to appear in the year, yeah had passed the dilubio and other again, they're there. So,

they're going to Moses, and Kaleb, that, well, only two valiantes

said that the other they're not, he's not the attitude of them and those privates of the

life. Of that they go to the war, that is what we're talking and they're in the

assuces and we're abhorred in a way, this is this is in numbers 13. It's a

battle and there's a narration where Josue is part in a mountain in a mountain and a

mountain and says the Bible that detien the sun. That that's not possible, not? He detain the sun, the one side, and

the other side, permanence the night. What he calls the attention of this narrative is that while the sun was, was there, debilitabing to these beings. Abouting that are things, then, of obscurity?

They're not, so, we're that we're going to the program, what series are the sun? Vampirous. Probably not, they say, No, it says the Bible. We're going to. We're going to.

Yes, and it's very interesting this, because it comes of the cimient of the serpent. The amurreos are of this lineage,

of the messes, of what we've been we talking. So, gan the people of Israel, it's a lot of this issue, gannan the

battle, encirran to the reels in a coveh, and then, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, the time, and more Adelaide you know the

story of Goliad that was another that's another gigante so right we

we're going to go we're going to talk about to goliate now they don't they're

to mention these Ceres it's it would be the last that's

the other side of the side of the good we're going to call it so exists

in the history of Sanson that had a force overhuman and

apart in this in the initial of this other another another person called

Ninrod that also mentioned that is a a ser that is a ser that is a so Sanzon and Ninhrod

are very very similar to the mythology to the history of Hercules so yes so you

get you is the last book of the Bible and and it begins the New Testament

what what happens with these things yeah no says so it's

about to the new the new Testament and it's started

to other other things more more the or the

is to have people endemoneada. In the Antio Testament, there are very few stories of

spirits that tormenting to the people. The most I'm present is the of the king Saul.

Yeah. It was was when they were to bring to the re David that he took

the arpa and he calmava. Calmava. Yeah, it was kind of of the

kind of the spirits that tormented to the people. Yeah, we're

we're pardon, to the New Testament, there disappear and you know it's and it's about in other

books of these things. And there's there's a question of the uncertainty of what happens. So,

they're all, they're all they're all they're talking. Yeah, so, yeah, and they're

so when? After when Jesus he took to expulsar the demons of that that's the

man, no? That was the man, I think I'm understood that was a place

to get to someone, because that was the place and he was controlled for a person that even

the same apostles they're saying to Jesus Master, take care that man is demonied and the man

he was going to go to attack but standing at some of Jesus this man he and the first

he says about not the man but not the demonios and saying that those pardoner

and they're they're to implored and that's that's that bad that's

that cabron way pivate that we're just talking this theme of Jesus and

the exorcism or the expulsion of demons. The other is when I just we said,

we're going to talk about this. I kept thinking and I said, I said, I'm trying, I'm

in what when Jesus was adistrad for this. Because one of the things that talked about

the docu yeah, about this time said, but not he said what's said

with Jesus between his adolescence and his adultess. Yeah.

he had a he had a know but in the Bible not he said what he

did he did in that time where he made to do this type of

things because not just it was to the school was where

he went and he he goes and when he goes and when to sanar people

to make the people but there's there this is a part

that I'm investigating and is something that many people also have seen in various videos that

form a part of a theory of the formation of Jesus and is that's mentioned in

some in some scriptures for example evangelios also about the evangelio

of Tomas that Jesus used to various places like the India or the Tibet

where I had studied with maestros spiritual and acquired know about philosophy, religion, and other

things spiritual. And is that it's important to recalgar something, I think if Jesus, being the child of God, that is one of the person or the person or the being more important, in the whole the history, of the Christianism, that me give in his name, too, why disappear so many? Because a part of the 12, 13 years, Jesus

disappears and no we'll we'll never to know to say until the 30 and many

years that's that insertidum to know what happened for many years so they

said and the docu he said and the actually caused much much a

much polemica that he mentioned that there there was a bit of the I mean I'll

say I'm independently what he said independently If, evidently, if it's real or not real, what mention in this book apocryph, Jesus we need to understand something. It was a human.

So, if it was a ser celestial, but it was to be able to live the experience human. So, as a ser unumano, no, he quits, the merit of nothing, but I think that, like, all of a

formation, is over-pruve-and-er-er-er-er-er-er- independently, because is that the loco, if he was a little direct in what he had read, because I, well, I also, I also, I mean, he was the most cabron

that you, this, leased in the book of Tomas. And is that he was mentioned in a form very little

mirable, but very direct, saying, Jesus was a person that was a person who

a man, exactly, or that's a malditions. And that after, for example, his parents

were amonestable and yeah like it had to enter in a reason, and quit these

malditions or revivia to those people that manned to the other world. I'm going to

talk to talk to doke to what you see, to be a let us to get us in problems

for what you're going to say. And this is all me. Bava. I think

that Jose the carpintero not so he has done so much that it has been

not making to the Virgin Maria. But I think I would acted

of a way like the majority of the people rationales it would

have done contextualizing he's going to go to in that in that in this chapter in

this context of the history the people the people had to keep their sure

then they're then they're yeah a accord so he was he was

being to be to give us to his spouse to his

promptida she was he's coming to the act

physical of the love to plan of that manner.

If Jose should have gone, I think the history had been totally

different. Because he he's because he he's made a cargo of a kid.

He could have said he, no is me. I'm going and do you do you

do you? No. He's is going? Yeah. But what he does is very

dense because at the moment of to have to be a Maria of the murder because by the

impuiced for Moises has been after much she was for having this because the

society obviously she was going to get to have committed this error so

so then Jose he gets and he's like a figure paterna for Jesus

was a provedor he gave a house he did the techo he gave food

he sent to work he He taught a person functional in a

society knowing what was what he said with the he said if you do you

do you do this this man not be the messies so so if

he would go we know we know we know the we know the

in the Bible no it's not he doesn't disappear

because why disappear where doesn't exactly yeah after

this is supposed that the the he's He also, he was his

tio-a-awel, Jose of Arimatea. Uh-huh. I'd want to planter to this manner, and if you had thought, what had been said, if Jose no, you'd, not so he'd, not, you'd have done to Jesus?

Is that it's like, you'd have gotten to Jesus. And that's what we said, you know, like, they'd say, you're in, they'd say, if not existed, the devil, no, existier the Bible, no existier the Bible.

Is that, I think, I think that all is consequence of something. For example, if I

would be a example. It's an example. Yes, it's an example. What you want? If I were God,

if I were to do you God, God engendrated per don't, he's made

a man, I, so like Maria was chosen between millions of women

not you've to think that at the most of the I'm sure that's it's quite a casuality

because I don't know if you know the years that's I'm sure I've done about this

so how many you know about this you're a yeah was a year of a year of 14 years

exactly and Jose and Jose and he was he was he was he was

he was it was much more more grand yeah yeah it was he was

that he had that That's not bad at some of the abritas I think that

was more I'm at there's quite of there's a there's a difference bismal. You think that that was

was casuality or no? Well, is that they had that practice in that you know

when Abrams and he got to a Rebeka to his Isaac, that for

certain were primos were very great the distance of that Rebeca I was

pegando to the 14, 15 Isaac and he was raiding at the 40. So, so it's like

a practice that they had very usual. For that for that for that's not not very much. Yeah.

It was common. I think as you like you say, Jose Merece much merit, so for what

he did, the decision and the love that had to Maria, to his family, to his

wife, and I think would be a very good example of a father, well,

we, we, we, instrued to the child of the God of all.

There's there's a very much merit that he's not he's not he's not because

we're talking that Jesus was a new normal a little a little a little that maybe

did some his travesur for there he's got a ability that that has a ability

that they're obviously like a little if you don't you know a good

can't you can't you know I think is very important. Yeah,

after the church Catholic did, uh, I'm the name of the

procedure, but if, this, is that I don't know much. The beatification? No, no,

I'm, I'm not, I'm saying, but if there was a recognition to say to say,

so, not so, so, not, tan, so, in the end of this side,

I don't know, I don't know, I was to understand, that's what to be to start

to be to be me aggras so in curve. But if he did

there, this, um, a recognition for his, for his for his

work like that's that would be that's that's not, no, so I mean,

this is the moment to recognize and much people see the and I think there

are the figures, figures that serve as you know I've been analyzed anteriorly

and already you're to put over the over the and it's

to recognize to the love to the family the the mara pure that that's

that's your family, to your wife, to your spouse, to your kids, the model,

the model of family. And I'm about the video, I think we're in things very

very little I don't want to that's the intention that we're talking about what in the

Bible, not of other other thing. But I want to pass a thing

that's also much, much the attention. There are two there two

characters. One, that is in the canon biblical, that is Judas Iscariote, and another, that not is,

as a, but many people affirmation that is, but like, disfrasada of serpent. A ver, d'A. Lillit. Ultimately, me has seen many videos about Lillit.

It's, I'm going to give a context, because, to be, I'll be, I'll be, I'm going to say, I mean, for a lot for not, for some people. I know the majority no, but for some people, not is affirmation my, is information that is

free in internet, for that you can go to look at it. Lillet is a personage very recurrent in the mythology and the literature and its story, basically can be abhorredada in various books, that's not only only in one. So, it can't

be able to be books, in mythos, and in works, even of fiction. But one of the textos that, that, you, that They're about this woman is the alphabeto

of Benzira. If it's well pronounced, the alphabet of Benzira. Also, it's also,

it's about this woman in the Bible satanica and the other books that have to be

with the topic of occultism. It's a great raskos of that before

of Eva, that was created at the cost of Adan, existed like a

first woman that is the context general the call Lilit the which was created a

but it was created almost or if not I can't say it was it was equal to Adam

so was created a part of the barro so the history of these books

us that this woman not sometia to his and of

some and of Adam like he's like with the father and saying

I don't know. No me doesn't No, me doesn't how we do? No, he wants to

do you? So, it's a matter of that this woman is revela with his

husband, she revela against God, yeah that he liked like to

take the head of the this came in the book, not is

a thing and she is expulsed of the Eden and is when

they're a Eva then you're using of the costia of Adam yeah no

of the nothing like she chalilit and here these vertientes o'clock

vertientes apocryphs that come in the Bible satanica the alphabet of bencera or

books that about of her in the world that this woman that's

being in his way to be topando with with entities

oscured also called demonios have relations and they're like a figure of a lily

of a rebelia like a figure demoniac also even even she said that he was the

first the devil of Lucifer of Satanas but me a much

curiosity how this this person this figure feminine took much

there much power in different books. Even there are cults

that's like to this entity. There are people that say to be

invocard but you do you think of Lilit fid fickate that I

found that I found that story I've got a much time of a time

and he I'm going to give promotion not I don't know I'm there

there's a car much it's called Algaravita and me

put there to learn and me I found the history of Lilit the fact

in that was in my prime of the Christianism I said this I said you know I said

tremendous I'm sorry yeah yeah I'm so I contextualizing to the

family of the extra normal podcast the those extra normanologists I

I'm I've said in she they're in you know you're

with Nazette I'm I'm But in that moment, if it was a person quite quadrata with respect to

other opinions, if I saw this type of books, I said that's done and you're going to. And the

I read, like, I'm convincedio, like no, like, and at final, I'm investigating

and the time, it's the hauja of the social, it, and then

people to give information of this ser. That me it's more interesting seeing it

from the part that you said the the question of the question that this

woman doesn't this woman not this part of the rebeldia

even the padrino Kike Wirta said that said that many people

and he was he was saying you like the standard of the

feminists no yeah because why I'm somet I'm committed to

because I'm because I have to have to have to a God

and have to be submitted all the time to Dan, no? Sure.

Fiatty that I like the story for how it's going to and the

other of you also you say it's something and I think you think you

you're you're going to you this way the story is of

who can't yeah and you you mention something I don't

you want to what to where you where

was where was why it was well for the The right of not

Obedecese or not sometters to Dan? That's it's it's not it.

Well, it's is that it's like a a rebeldia and we're

that the rebeldia the revelartes is considered one of the pecates

because we're the same the same that invading to Lucifer to

a Lusbel to Lusbel the The fact also of not obeyed

the and say why you you're going to do order to so I think it's

a very, I don't see if to call it special but

a but a because we're the that was the fact that

the angels the rebeldi and here reading a

little about investigating a little Lilit I let

let learn like the part one of different

experiences for example, in the origines mythologics, basically it's basically it's in the mythology

Mesopotamica. Lilit was known as a demonio feminine, that was in places desolados,

pardon, that abetable in places desolados. It appears in texts Sumerios, Babylonical,

and Assyrios with different roles, but in general, it's like a figure demoniac that causes

stragos and the death, the infirmity and the infertility. This is the description

in the origines mythological. In the Judaism, also has a representation as a

presence important in the tradition in the work, the alphabet of Benzira, which is the

book that I think about about her, that is a text medieval Jewish.

She is described as the first husband Adam and all what you did,

the which was It was, I don't know how to say it, deserrata of the garden of

in the Christianism that's this this is all rare. I mean the attention because

no came in the Bible, but there people that are people who say,

and here is, he said although Lilit not is mentioned explicitly

in the Bible, some some interpretations Christian posturierier they

have associated with the figure like the serpent in the garden

of the Eden or the grand pros in the book of the Apocalypse. These associations have contributed to his image as a figure malignant and seductora in the tradition Christian. I mean, some people, in the translations, they have associated

as something that you ask you to fall in a peccable, for so to do it. But here is more chido, because it's like, also, the partient of theories, like, a little scabrosas, and some corrientes esoteric and occultists, Lydid is seen in a manner different, a menudo,

as a figure of adoration, or as a deidad feminine, associated with the sexuality, the magic, and the knowledge occult. In these interpretations, Lidit is venerated as a symbol of liberty, emporonement, in contraposition to

his representation more traditional as a demonio. Justly, as As you said, that is seen even or inspired into

of those movements that exist in the day of today. But in general, I think

that have seen more to get more more books about the elite because it caused much

a polemica that you do you say, the fact of not submetters, the

the fact of not to see the the people of persons that

have a same philosophy of these regals. And I think

that's going to a, no see, like a etiquette in those

that many people, women, and women, and they're being identified.

Fidate that the thing of the women is something is a questionable.

Because of a point, you know, I know going to get people,

and say, you're saying, but for example, Pablo, Pablo, about the

women, that the women can't say in Timoteo, me that the

women can't teach, that the women have been to start submeted

to be to be to try it as a fragile this part of how they're

going desplas into the of the stories to the not

they don't have much they're that the most that's that's

that obviously is Maria the virgin and there there

very many many there there have a important

to the story and it's the women the

Ombuds. I'm going to with the morris. Right that you talk about this,

like, because it's the history of Maria Magdalena with respect to the thing of the

women. I'll say Maria Magdalena I'm going to start to get to get

to get back on. Let go. It's at the final of context, or other

again. It's what comes in the book. What is? This is,

are in parts of the book of Mcdalena because that also has an evangelio

apocrypho and right I'm going to read some part of the evangelio of San Philippe.

Evangelio of San Felipe right? Evangelio of San Felipe. It's interesting me, I've to

read a little, but let see what what is what you know, what happens is that

has been a much with the past of the time and this is also to be

also to the work of the Codigo Da Vinci that he does also a

much emphasis to the story of Maria Magdalena with Jesus She's She said that she

She had With the Disci Also Yeah There's She mentioned that

in the Quadro of Davinci No Yeah, Yeah, and there There's a series of

there that the Iglesia because when they talk in these times

There are other things that that's that Juan was in

really was a woman that was Maria Magdalena that they

have been So, these are some positions that you

no, that they're that apostle no is a baron. Yes, it's very

feminine. So there's many many. So there are much stories that turn to the messages

that were doing Da Vinci. Yeah. Also, it's interesting what's with him. There,

then we talk about Da Vinci because also like Jesus disappears and he's going

to get to get a years. So, it to the mountaines and receive much information

and the more but it is more interesting the thing of Maria

Magdalena this book, it's many years after you know,

I'm going to fall with the fact of the future. It's I don't I'm

I don't I remember if is 500 years after that the to get

to get to the books has to come in the Bible because that's

about the documentalist when is the consens that's the

consens that's the time. That's interesting of how were forming

the character of Jesus in quite to the narrative

to what is important, what is important. But, well, we're going to to reverse a Maria Magdalena. What did a woman there?

Right, we're talking that at the long of the Bible is a lot of some of the does it do

so it's a important the job that did the work. What did she? Yeah, because

all the time, was together with Jesus. They're to be certain speculations

of that probably probably was a pair of Jesus, that were a couple you mentioned

you mentioned you put to analyze the circumstance of what was going to

a little a little not it's that coming from a lineage of the people who

have a tradition to castarse young a family that for them that for them

is important that Jesus being a adult of 30 years vying as

right retiring the the deida that is not it not

it is not not a man of this age a man a man

maduro we we're going to call it like, without a person, without a

family. Even could have been to even a bad-viced. Yes. That's where

I wanted to inclin the balance in this thing. It's me makes quite

interesting how you plan this situation front of people to people and people

and the people and the people and they're and they're no, how

you? Yeah, how you? How you? I think for me

I think that for me, I think It's important to start from there, what I was saying. If it's a man mature, why not he's a casado? And if he's casted, what is the problem of that he's casted? At the final, it's a person who has necessities. Jesus, he'd go to the a-a-nawaino, too.

Jesus, he's enojave. There's parts in the Bible, this, traditional, that we know-old, where he's is the part when he gets to the temple, that be that's a new thing, that what he did you, what you said there with the documentalist, no, I remember if, if you were you, not was he, that he's, he not he

didn't like the church he's, he's in contra of the institutions. Of the the Bible.

Yeah, of the Bible. Yeah, and it's quite interesting how you did the documental.

They were to go to the jugular there's but well going to the time of Maria

Magdalena why? Why would be a rarro why abe a question? Jesus

had necessary like I mentioned. Sure. Because is the he would be the

would be a woman. I think that is a thing more

of religion because just as we're we're we're we're we're

a lot of the thing we're the the church the when you

know the consensus and the decision of what books

form part of the canon biblical and they're really

the intention exact because no we know there speculations

but one of the one of the fact of that no

a mancha a Jesus that never committed a error, a Jesus or a it's like

an image that they they're to give to do to the person for me

it's a controversial because why you could you this part

of Jesus and why if if you do you when he he says

to not it's a not it's the abandon in the crucifix when

when he says when you say I've passing for a

circumstance very difficult more than the problem this physical the the circumstance

of that I am the child of God and I'm the other part where we're

on the sentimental that also when I'm for Lassar that's that's normal no?

So, so they're being so they're being a person common and that's

because he can't have he's there a part of there there

Evangelio of San Felipe, which was what mentioned us, where the apostles, he question in the relation that he

had with Maria Magdalena. Dice in the Evangelio of San Felipe, the Lord amava

to Maria Magdalena more than the disciples, and the said the evangelio.

No, it's Oscar. No, I go, go, you. They're to look at the

Evangelio of Philippe. Philippe. The rest of the disciples, while ver that the Lord, amava to Maria, he asked, why

amas more to her than us than us to us? And Jesus they responded, no, I'm to you, I am I'm a

different. This is the Evangelio of San Felipe. Wow. And not in the Bible. Why not

they're not they're in this part of Jesus as a human, like a man of 30 years

that has has the liberty to have been a spouse, even even even

even kids. There's there books that even mentioned that is family.

Ah, well, that's the San Felipe. No, it's in the evangelio

of her. Uh, of Maria Magdalena but that also also also is very rare

because she she has that she not he was physically with Jesus

about to have done to have done more than what they had

the apostles and that there was a situation where it was very very similar with the

Virgin Maria. She could have a need a need to be a need to be

a part of the power that Jesus he deleged and he was a great and he starts a

creature that not is a child but is where it's where it's a lineage

this also also in the evangelio of Maria Magdalena that no appear.

And it's a question and it's a bad and you go to

you're going to change the history totally of the Christianism or the Catholicism

of how we know so how you see Fakito I think it's a thing

and I want to repeat that is a structure or the Bible

really I'm a structure and there a image that they have

to give to every person that form part

of these books and the the fact of include an evangelio

of Marius Magdalena an an evangelio of Philip an evangelio

of Tomas or a man or an evangelio of Judas TV that's

very gross that's that's tremendous tremendous no I read the book

oh no I'm I'm I put to investigate the the parts more

fertes or more controversial and just like the documentalista

the documentalista this book came in the part where

it's not a or it to do to show that he was with

Jesus independently of his other apostles had a relation very

very very very very very very so more to

more an apostle more was an man I have I'm

but you are my friend you are special

to you I'm more and as you I'm more you have you have

a time you have a lot to dole darthel but you have to do

because the story has to give the cycle that's

and you you how you you you can do you have you

have to me you that part when I know I'm

I'm I'm I comes in this Evangelio of this Jesus Christi

me makes think one the amissat the them

and the love that they had in one to imagine what

how that was what he felt for his

master to say no me important to not

only only for the people of my people

and by the people no, be odied for years and years and

years and the history and the history and is see being as the person that I

transio to the master imagine that carga so it's about that

you think of you and self-desvive for the pressure

of that that that that that that I think

I think he he did independently if it did, as he did the

the book apocryph or how it's a question there's a repentiment a real

an repentiment of no I don't do it maybe at the moment yeah but then

but then it's this side of the repentiment that you put to think to

I'm going to what I'm what happened and he's I'm asking for you that you think you

think apart of all the story that would have happened if

Judas no Entrega. Would have said other Judas or other Apostol that would

have been probably probably if they were to get another person

for there has got much also with the prophecies Jesus did

in the Antiv Testament there prophetas that about about

how it was going to do do you do do you know

the brothers of Jose they they don't the money

they Exactly. I think I was going to say to get to

get a quite, the part where you mention is of the tradition

of the man and how was delegated to this part is

a is a part of the and apart also what that's

when he gets and then when Jesus he goes to he he

he and then three times he asked Jesus to

Pedro that is he he's some of the facet emotive

of Jesus most and the man that he was with I think

that I think that he had to think for why?

Because I decided believe so I'm the part where

they're coming when Jesus says that one of

you would say Yeah. And yeah in the scene that's

he says and say, be, he has what you have to do you and he's when I'm

and then I think that Jesus also I was like was like was a

signal no that's now. Yeah to be to do do you

and that God and that God is a piade of you. You think that

Judas could have got the pardon of the

creator Or is like, I've I've seen these absurd movies of that Judas was the first vampire and I don't know see,

yeah. Fiatty that right we're back to say, there's a there's a theory about there

of the 30 monedas of the that's what are some some are but

there's there's there's there that there there's there on the

money with the even there there's a really really bad that that

That's, that, that thematic of what succeeded with with the 30 monas that they gave to Judas. Okay. Of the entry

are they're maldits, no? Sure. Imagineate the money that gave to the God. Aha, me

you're going to ask me. Here I found. Here's various vertientes of this evangelist. I don't

go to hear me about one. It's the theory of religious. I think that you'll hear this opinion.

If some people have suggested that the Evangelio of Judas was subprimed

for the church primitive because that revelable secretes that

could have altered the comprehension traditional of the life of Jesus

and this theory implies that the church would have

this evangelism to to maintain his control about

the faith Christian and you know and the episode

with the docu and no doubt that I do you

but but we recaem to because were for

were for What are they back these books? The church

always has been involved with the state. That's definitely and

talking and in contexts there's many stories in the Bible in reality the

in reality of the Bible have to be with the politics and problems

with governments governments governments and also and also you

I've asked this to the do why why

A Bible traditional it's because resuscit to Lazaro. That's was out of the hands.

Yeah. He was up the mortals. In one of the evangelists said that

was that was the other was for the revolt that was doing, that the first time

that was also that were also that you were a jugular, that said, for there was

there's molestan but but, pegand there a little to the

dictionary revoltos revoltoso is synonym of revolutionaries and if Jesus no you see like a Jesus not you know

you're in another planet because it was what he said what you said what I'm what you mentioned to say

Jesus not that Jesus not with the system that was the system that was running

the church because all this process to tryer an animal perfect to for the

sacrifice and other then you they're they're in the church and

not it there there also there too there there's there Jesus, when

he went to the desert, it's supposed to also he was

to visit to other other characters that's called. For here he was

the name. It's written. Esenios. Esenios. They were situated far from

the civilization and were people that were in desacquired with the system

that had the church. Yeah. From this this thought of

this other theories pardon, that had been to India and

that had had had been these practices where he's a system

to think to think, that was a time what was saying

the love of the problem, apart what we mentioned

of the corruption within the into the the church but I

think that in this part moving to the question of how the

church was met to be doing to manipulate or to have a control of these stories, that was the point of partied.

Yeah, me was going. I was to forgeting to why you're doing. Definitely. The church has

created to control and what you do you? Well, you're going to get to the mass, no, we're trying. So,

many, some muchism people. We're going to say, cotorreo, that's what I mentioned

about a serratito. I'm a Christian that no I'm going to I'm trying in God I think in Jesus

I'm like to investigate not I'm not much because in some moment I did

I'm not I didn't that talk these things because for there

says what you you check you checka uh me tambe much and they

they're but why you think in this so no because

and I'm you're you're you're you're you're you're

So, this is the argument that many of the crevents we're going to you're going to be a rege. Well, no, it's nothing

more that you put to learn to get to investigate and questionate because you have this type of

system of creencies. The truth is that I like to order there a rite

in the house, de pronto I'm there don't go to a congregation, or I'm

to go to the church because no I don't like in the institutions.

At final they're being being conel and the men

and the women are equivocan. Exactly. And at final the power

is making that the people get a lot of and you do you're doing other things and

you're going like like a morregated that's what is what they're that's what

they're that I think that the apostles there too metier much a cuchera

the churches as well started with these divisions started Pablo,

started Pedro to have his instructions a little different

I'm also I'm Paul, because Paul, for his, for his amistades, because he was a person that was very well

pared in the government Romano, he passed to be a persegidor to the church to be a posto. He not

convivio with Jesus. He passed to the people, he orchested to the, that pederer

to Esteban, the first martyr of the Christianism. And of this, you know, I'm just, I'm called Jesus,

me changed the name, here my cards Paulina in the New Testament

that has many many many times Paul in the New Testament how

get on those these cards years I'm little I'm top I

those clips in red social because because as a person

that not took much to be or nothing to with

Jesus the Bible is full of his cards

of his pastes of his These are There are many things

that, Oscar, I know I've questioned even I've put to think if I'm in the

correct. I don't see if you get to think to think, I'm doing bad for

thinking on this or for question this, so I am I am I have yet

to get to that point where you feel for question or questioner? At

principle yes. When of the I've mentioned, I've mentioned in this

in the gerga Christian is born in a place in a place Christian

there there's there there's there probably this that we

we're this this question because God is love because

there's there there's there there so much because God

it's so this choleric so iracund and and

there there there there there responses and you create more, more doubts, more

doubts, and you get to the point where you say, I'm not for question me this. Exactly. But no

it's not to question your system of your system of creences, as a contrary. You can solidify those or

to go to go to get to there. I think that much people that we're seeing for tradition

to do the religion. If independently if it's to go to the church Christian,

if it is for tradition. And of And, de-pronto, well, I go to the church, because I mean, me they're going to

go to the church, yeah. And see, they're in the thing they're in a little bit more particular with Kike-Wert.

Because he's very Catholic. Well, he's a Catholic, but not the church, but I'm,

he does do this, he does this, I'm going to respect to the, the thing of the church,

the Bible, and he's kept thinking, like, like, no, you know, he's,

he's, de-pronto me, is that, is that, I'm, I want to hear me,

but I know I'm to read me to say. And right I'm going to keep a little. No,

one of us we're talking, we're talking about precisely of the Bruja of Endor that in the

Antio Testament, that's a rapidito for those who know the history, the rei

Saul, rey of Israel, God enoja with him because he doesovede

precisely he's basically he made to do to do a task to do Obedece a

God, God's enoja He doesn't He goes to He said to Samuel, then Samuel he's mure

and he's desperation and in his desperation go and consult a Bruch. And there the Bible

says that the Bruja the Bruch said that was the Bruchia and he was not like not the

witcheria or the chisery and these practices. Divination Adivination this came in the

Bible this also also also has done this are Christians,

Catholic. And they're there to the cards, with all respect to the people that's the people who's

dedicated to the Bible is very clear. No, they're having cabita in the sky. Yeah, that's a

unicornio, and unicornio that's not the authority. Yeah, so he's like, he, like,

he's like, he's much many times. Who has who has a little there's easy and

easy. And is what does the the re-saul and the brute has the spirit

of the prophet. And the prophet says the Bible that he's a question that's why it'spiret. And yeah, pass in this type of things, he says that you know,

he said, well, he said a biggerte me said, the fact, the fact that I'm thinking, not had been

this story. I thought that I'm just cabuliant like you. Yeah, like you see, oh,

yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sorry, to tell you. In what you say? In what?

In Samuel. Samuel? Samuel. First of Samuel, you fell in the chapter. Yeah,

there's a verse. But it's there in Samuel there's there for to look and don't

think that I'm cotorrend. But yeah really it's a thing very interesting

a thing that is very delicate I said I don't talk about religion

but it also if we let us let us let us let us the

lot of those stories the stories conspiratives that we don't about

the thing of the thing alienigena because it's very associated

with the thing that to him the abduxied, or really is very interesting, very interesting,

very, that you put to to think a man, that you put to think to think really,

what's what's happening or what was in those years. Oh, this,

before that you goyes. No, you, you, you've, you've been,

this, the, this, the, the, of the places of to Jesus

to England, to not. To get in Curve. No, there,

no, there, no, no, no, no, no, what

is was located or was a guarded in Inglaterra also also we did so much

so much that's so far the time of the time of the time so it's so it's

supposed that Jose Darimatea he was an old old was a was a merchant yeah

had much land and he had some he had his embarkas so so I

had with that so he was going to he was because there had had minas

of stano and this bathe was a distributor, distributor, distributor, of this. Yeah. So,

he said he was to get a Jesus, those voyages, and there's a poet

that's called William Blake, mention that Jesus, that Jesus, I'm coming on those

in some, in the, uh, and you says, this, this has, this,

you know, what you said, you know, you know, you know, like Jesus went to, it's,

it's more sense, when it, they, it's, planterian this manner

that he was when when it's the last the last the

last he's he he got the and he he he's

proper to be to be not for that things

that does good Oscar no no no no

I didn't see that so so no never

I never never to never I I'm I'm I'm

in other in theories in the in the the

Bible no And so, I imagine that I'd be more. More questions, more information that, like I mean

a much people, well, he generates also this this doubt, no, of how is

possible. But I think the best we can is learn us, and what I want to

repeat, we're not we're not we're not we not we're historians, we're two

people who we're sent us to talk to them that we do things that we're and,

and, If if you want like an expansion still more checkens these books, leans the Bible

even the Bible even the Bible the same and the conclusions and the of Oscar not

not precisely they need to be the of you remember that we think we all this

things of this respectuously and if in some moment we said

something that I'm I'm anticipate a disculpa this

not that's not and so not I think we

we we're we're we're we're Capitolo. Oscar, something you want to

add you guys know. Well, see us. And they're in the regalans sustos.

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well, of what you just to say, all part from a opinion personal,

no I'm expert in the theme. It's a particularment me

I like. I like to talk about this mess because me also the interchamble of ideas. Nobody has

the truth in the reality. And then that's nothing to be the bond of being the family,

thanks to all the final. I'm a final. And we're seeing a morning

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