EXTRA ANORMAL - 77. Los CHANEQUES se robaron a mi amigo y lo CONVIRTIERON en uno de ellos.

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

¡Bienvenidos a Extra Anormal, el podcast donde exploramos lo inexplicable! En el episodio de hoy, vamos a adentrarnos en el mundo de los chaneques, esos seres sobrenaturales que habitan en los bosque...s y montañas de América Latina. Escucharemos varios relatos escalofriantes de personas que han tenido encuentros con estos seres, desde sus travesuras juguetonas hasta sus maliciosas trampas. Pero la historia más espeluznante que compartiremos es la de un pueblo en México, donde se dice que los chaneques se llevaron a un niño y lo intensificaron en uno de ellos. Los lugareseños cuentan que el niño desapareció sin dejar rastro, y que después de varias noches de búsqueda infructuosa, lo encontramos en el bosque. Pero no era el mismo niño que había perdido: había sido sometido a modificaciones físicas horribles y ahora era uno de los chaneques. La historia de este niño es una de las más escalofriantes que hemos escuchado en Extra Anormal.PARA ENVIAR RELATOS Y COLABORACIONES AL SIGUIENTE CORREO: extraanormalpodcast@gmail.com ..........................................................................................................................................................No se te olvide seguirnos en nuestras redes sociales, acá te las comparto.YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@extraanormalpodcastFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/podcastExtraAnormalINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/extra.anormal.podcast/TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@extra.anormal.podcast .......................................................................................................................................................... Nuestro invitado es mi buen amigo Quike Huerta, aquí te dejo sus redes:Youtube: https://youtube.com/@nomiresporlaventana Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nomiresporlaventana?_t=8ZqXpOidPin&_r=1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nomiresporlaventana/

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Starting point is 00:01:13 to be a little to a podcast Extra Anormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy
Starting point is 00:01:20 to be here with this occasion is my good friend, Kike Wurta. How is
Starting point is 00:01:26 Kike? What is Paco? Excellent. Content to start another again with the
Starting point is 00:01:29 family of podcast ExtraNormal with our family. Our name is our family. No, that's
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Starting point is 00:01:39 the people that we're doing the really is that I'm quite content. That's
Starting point is 00:01:44 basically you're part of the project. I'm quite and well,
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Starting point is 00:04:24 let me let's talk about right. One of the first of the first of the first
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Starting point is 00:04:48 was in the of a, a terrain that is a lot of the river
Starting point is 00:04:56 of the river Papalopan. In fact, it's the way of a little bit of a rio then I'm
Starting point is 00:04:59 so imagine that you're there's a matas of mango, much vegetation. And just, as I'm
Starting point is 00:05:06 back, over my left, that's a right, there's a window, there's
Starting point is 00:05:12 there's and generally the courtina was able always, and many many of
Starting point is 00:05:17 the people were many of many. Much, they were many. We're
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Starting point is 00:08:47 I'm very anxious to start Kike, because we're going to give to the audience a chapter of those who are
Starting point is 00:08:53 his favorites a chapter dedicated to stories anecdotas of Chanekes What how?
Starting point is 00:09:03 I think one of the great problems that we've I said in the studio
Starting point is 00:09:08 anterior, surely it has to be over there. The region where we are a region very creient
Starting point is 00:09:16 and with many stories relative to the theme of the cheneques. And of where you
Starting point is 00:09:23 are you are different names, no? For example, in the peninsula of Yucatang,
Starting point is 00:09:29 there in the state of Yucatans are known as Alushes. Alushes. Alushes. So,
Starting point is 00:09:35 I mean, I talk a story rapid to get to get to get to get
Starting point is 00:09:41 a lot of a lot of an amistat a very, very, very,
Starting point is 00:09:49 that no, that's that's that there people there are people, there's
Starting point is 00:09:53 people, there's me, Simon, I'm, so I'm, I'm, she said,
Starting point is 00:09:57 I'm just lived in a place in a place to where you didn't
Starting point is 00:10:01 the studio. In Tuxtepeg, where we're not we're in the affuars
Starting point is 00:10:06 generally is so. Yeah, there are places for to have the ganada or the sierra and things for the style.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No, not necessarily are ranchos, but are houses, terra, with patios very great.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So, me and this I remember much because just it was about the primary and
Starting point is 00:10:25 the secondary. It was a story that we were a story that she said that she,
Starting point is 00:10:32 she, she were around of four brothers, of the other families yeah
Starting point is 00:10:37 grand And there were now that's that one two and some of the kids yeah have perrishos, yeah no they're not their children.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But of those other families grand of various brothers, because obviously they were
Starting point is 00:10:48 to the abuelos that was at the afoas of the back. So,
Starting point is 00:10:52 during those times of the time when when I started to get a
Starting point is 00:10:56 night, they were to play in what was the parcel of the abel
Starting point is 00:11:00 where yeah was the sembrado of mais, the milpa the maisal
Starting point is 00:11:04 and they called all and they of those years,
Starting point is 00:11:09 no? I'm talking that I go, I know about I'm over the 30 and ever
Starting point is 00:11:13 no, I don't I want to get to get porras. I mean I said that what I
Starting point is 00:11:18 mean I mean I've been very rejuvenecid this but but he does it
Starting point is 00:11:23 about about this that I'm talking about this I'm about these four brothers
Starting point is 00:11:30 my my my amical and his primos so it was
Starting point is 00:11:33 a bandita there of the chikios like some two chame
Starting point is 00:11:37 from the pure family yeah when when it started to happen to happen to happen to happen to in the house
Starting point is 00:11:45 of the abuelos if it was a house that was a was a place was a place and
Starting point is 00:11:52 they'd and they used to the atrapadas generally then in one of these
Starting point is 00:11:57 many of these times those in those congelated he has to this chica
Starting point is 00:12:04 to start going precisely in what They were the limits of the parcel with what was the milpa, the maizal. And so,
Starting point is 00:12:11 and she just in that pedacito. So, she's she's going to the and when they they're talking,
Starting point is 00:12:17 she gets a parada and have to get someone to desencant her or the statues of Marfin, no, I don't
Starting point is 00:12:23 know how they call them in those times. Congelated, so. So, then she has had been
Starting point is 00:12:29 approximately about two years and it's he kept very grabed to this, because she says,
Starting point is 00:12:34 that she does one of his primos and she gets a part of the little limits of the
Starting point is 00:12:38 terrain and the milpa and they they're going to go to almost approximately
Starting point is 00:12:43 50 meters where she was where she was and she had said a air
Starting point is 00:12:48 here no there no there no there so state
Starting point is 00:12:52 then so she said she she that he he caused much impact
Starting point is 00:12:57 that of the milpa he started to put piedritas and
Starting point is 00:13:03 pieditas and piedritas then she she said she said to get to his primos and that he said, I don't
Starting point is 00:13:09 me stay having these things and that's carcajadas and she heard how they were
Starting point is 00:13:15 going to the milpa but when she percat that all they were on the
Starting point is 00:13:22 side of the land of where she she she was she assupt much
Starting point is 00:13:26 it's more that she was she was more she was running to
Starting point is 00:13:30 where were the other. She was more or less of the in the in the
Starting point is 00:13:35 age of the of the primos. So she says that he gets going to you get
Starting point is 00:13:42 you're just much, this is this is normally in the dreams that you can't you know
Starting point is 00:13:47 you know you're so you get and then she gets and not could be and not
Starting point is 00:13:52 could be and they're saying what you said what you're and she she said
Starting point is 00:13:58 she got like a hogada in that moment so as they started to
Starting point is 00:14:02 preoccupied all the chavitos for her they were they were where they were in their
Starting point is 00:14:05 and she she's her daughter she said she said you know no no and she
Starting point is 00:14:12 she said it's she's she's she's she she's she's
Starting point is 00:14:15 she then the he said no you know you don't you
Starting point is 00:14:21 don't don't never certainly was your imagination so but the
Starting point is 00:14:26 abelita that something said he he And he starts to say, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:31 they're not stusting to the girl, let them. And all they were like, the chavito, no?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yes, because he did so, like, so it was like, so much, and to be very rarro,
Starting point is 00:14:44 and she was to be very grabed to that's a who's a person, to do you, but this
Starting point is 00:14:49 he was to repeat a pair of occasions, but yeah he started to pass to other primos.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Then they started to have had seen to turn to get to to go to the house of the abelos because
Starting point is 00:14:58 they were they spantable in the Milpa Wow okay well it's all
Starting point is 00:15:02 the time never never said never said when they when they're when they're when they're
Starting point is 00:15:08 more more grandes that in the visits yeah of the second you know
Starting point is 00:15:13 it's it was that in that in that the oldita told
Starting point is 00:15:19 that had cheneques the abuel was very how said he said
Starting point is 00:15:23 he's eceptic of of those And also is sceptic accustomed to the stories of their infancy too, of the time, but
Starting point is 00:15:34 the abelita si had that's like very graved. So, then says that the abelita yeah, he said to tell, that many times, to her to pass that, but she didn't be a sussed about. For America's climate goals, investing
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Starting point is 00:16:46 home internet users during times of congestion. The other of a chica, they'd be told them those stories. So, then there's people, you know, you know, that's very valiant, that if she's atreve to look at to the ventana. And the
Starting point is 00:16:55 abelita was so so she she's not a mind that even even like
Starting point is 00:17:00 they're some some of the Alushes in Merida in Yucat a
Starting point is 00:17:07 sometimes the abelita let offrendas for that they not to get
Starting point is 00:17:12 with the family yeah but it but it like the natural the
Starting point is 00:17:18 naturales to be the characteristic of they are like guardians of the
Starting point is 00:17:24 naturalness for so generally it's in places in places of this type or let's it's
Starting point is 00:17:30 not it's because it's like you know but generally the stories have to be with places
Starting point is 00:17:37 like those or plantios or plantios and they're very very characteristics so
Starting point is 00:17:44 then says that she she said that she said and the other day he went to to talk
Starting point is 00:17:48 us to the secondaria ohgan you remember in what you I said I
Starting point is 00:17:52 the story that that spantable that's that's I'm my my ballita
Starting point is 00:17:55 that are the chankees and the carcajada is something of these of these and the
Starting point is 00:18:02 and the and the old bit and the other another that they are the
Starting point is 00:18:08 those chiflids that they start at chifelar and the and the peteritas this
Starting point is 00:18:11 to me and in my family I don't see if you're to tell the story
Starting point is 00:18:16 yeah no no yeah yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'm It was, for example, one like a chamaquito, not? You get you thinking and you say, Asu, because I
Starting point is 00:18:25 many times I've seen where you wanted you're and you're and you're and you're not like the
Starting point is 00:18:33 paralysis of the dream, but that's a dream where you and you can't and you get that's
Starting point is 00:18:37 so I'm I'm imagining and I'm I'm sure because I'm a smeche or so so that
Starting point is 00:18:44 so much so much, so much how about this chameame how about soniando, caron, no? And, of a
Starting point is 00:18:52 re-pernt to hear the carcashas of these kids, has to have been a impact. You know, 9, 10
Starting point is 00:18:57 years had this chica. No, well, is that is the age exactly where the
Starting point is 00:19:02 majority of people or children, they're like these encounters with these beings.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Because as you know, many people those catalogues as they're like, as a natural of the
Starting point is 00:19:13 things, because there are people who are sure that are very antivus
Starting point is 00:19:19 basically that they have been in the earth as before we're as before we
Starting point is 00:19:24 do you don't know they're like you don't they're like I'm know I
Starting point is 00:19:29 have done of a thing normally in a descendencia if someone of the
Starting point is 00:19:35 family has a kind of I'm like those children
Starting point is 00:19:40 the children of the same line they're to
Starting point is 00:19:44 basically these encounters I've done that with the people
Starting point is 00:19:48 that have done stories or legendas or anecdotas that they've been his mom and his abuelos, too.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:20:02 there's like, there's, and obviously, well, they say, I've never seen one, but when you're talking
Starting point is 00:20:09 with people that's been, it's because his mom was, his abuelos those, and if we're
Starting point is 00:20:14 doing more, the vis-abuel, those tatat-a-nietos, it's, is something a phenomenon that I'm very curious.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Look, you're going to because me I'm going to you're going to you're going going to get
Starting point is 00:20:25 the goal right. No, do you, but just that's about, that's, of that I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:30 in the, in the episode that's in the, in this, I was saying, let me I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:37 say, I'm saying the rite to say, the rattle, no, in, no, in,
Starting point is 00:20:41 not you, the episode that's up the episode that subio, and it's the
Starting point is 00:20:46 legado familiar. Yeah, we're talking and of pacto satanical in the in the in the we've seen. But that's what I've said
Starting point is 00:20:54 I've got to hear of voice of my invite. It's that some people also know it as well maldition generational. But if you think there's
Starting point is 00:21:02 a situation so it would be it would be a more of the community? Yeah, that's put in the comments if some of
Starting point is 00:21:11 those persons have taken like some encounter or his abelos because they more that channel
Starting point is 00:21:17 this channel like that captained signal in the in the that you you can't, in the you can't see to be to see this
Starting point is 00:21:26 story, also that's really really interesting also has been with the cheneques because this person is of Veracruz
Starting point is 00:21:33 and me and he says that he wants to tell me how a cheneke live in
Starting point is 00:21:40 his house and they know. This person me said initially that the chenekees
Starting point is 00:21:47 that those cataloged like good and bados. I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:50 in si all are they're so they're like alldoci he said they're
Starting point is 00:21:55 to get to like the innocence of the people but he has done that he
Starting point is 00:22:01 has done that they are those and those and this chapter to tell
Starting point is 00:22:05 two two stories of cases good and one with I'm
Starting point is 00:22:08 to go to the night of a tragic story
Starting point is 00:22:11 of Chene that are so so don't so
Starting point is 00:22:15 don't so this person me He says that He says He's the same
Starting point is 00:22:20 that you that these are in places where there are much vegetation and there are there areboles
Starting point is 00:22:25 of mango oh, arboles of mango he has much here in the mongg the mowp
Starting point is 00:22:30 opopan much the mango is made to be yeah he's they're
Starting point is 00:22:35 exactly and he me says that in the family of he has they have the creency
Starting point is 00:22:40 in a mountain in a in some serro or not you know you
Starting point is 00:22:46 you listen ricits or you get in aromas very dulces, you're going to say grosseries because supposedly these are not tolerant when you start when you
Starting point is 00:22:56 start to say malditions, then they're but he says when you're when you're like this what I'm here
Starting point is 00:23:03 and I'm here because I'm in the middle of the nothing, you're going to hear the arrasas
Starting point is 00:23:09 the aromas and you have to say the malditions is what he says he says
Starting point is 00:23:13 he makes a context me says where a few meters They said Talar on
Starting point is 00:23:19 14 hectares of bosque to build and the terrain of the house where they live they're
Starting point is 00:23:27 that is quite great and it's full of much vegetation So it's a zone that they're
Starting point is 00:23:33 going to a new colony a bit of a bit to get to get all
Starting point is 00:23:38 to do to go but the house where they're grandisima and it's great
Starting point is 00:23:44 part of the terrain, almost where I live before,
Starting point is 00:23:47 that's there's there's there's there. So, it's that at
Starting point is 00:23:50 the few days of the things, to get the things, they're getting
Starting point is 00:23:54 all the people, they're to hear not only him, all the people,
Starting point is 00:24:01 all the people, they're to hear things strange in their house,
Starting point is 00:24:07 particularly in the house, there were children, and in the nights they were
Starting point is 00:24:12 they used with the Juguetes, the things, disappeared. If you put your
Starting point is 00:24:17 keys, you'd do you know, you're going, you're to get to find them. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:25 and then you know, how they were about the sofa. So, then they started to
Starting point is 00:24:30 pass many things strange, and the curious is that not only only he was
Starting point is 00:24:35 he was not all the members of the family. So, yeah
Starting point is 00:24:40 that all start to get to a point where And here is happening We're going to
Starting point is 00:24:45 We're going to Because we're We're going We're going to We're going Let's see what It's a He's a mom
Starting point is 00:24:50 In those years He had a Miga He was a chaman So, went to
Starting point is 00:24:55 the house to make a and when is doing the Limpia he said the family
Starting point is 00:25:00 that there there's a spirit very little that's there in the house
Starting point is 00:25:05 that's that's very chuteon and it He's he's like a
Starting point is 00:25:10 cheneke but was a chaneke. So, this chaneke he said to the chameh,
Starting point is 00:25:15 that he said to the family, that for favor, no he charned. That where
Starting point is 00:25:19 he had all the arboles, yeah no there was a place where he had been
Starting point is 00:25:25 and the house in the territory, because he still, he had, all this. Arboles,
Starting point is 00:25:32 spaces abirtos, the house was great, then so adopted, he's there and to
Starting point is 00:25:36 get there and feel to get to the friend to the family what's
Starting point is 00:25:41 we're going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to but it but it's under his
Starting point is 00:25:47 responsibility in this moment the family decided to make it but they're
Starting point is 00:25:55 they're they're like a type pacto with him because they're
Starting point is 00:25:58 they're that they could get but that not his desastres that
Starting point is 00:26:03 that would to make to his maldates and principally that
Starting point is 00:26:07 to care the house and the terrain. So, that's that's like a
Starting point is 00:26:11 guardian. In that moment the Cheneke accept the trato,
Starting point is 00:26:15 he says to the chameh that's a problem. The family, with that being a
Starting point is 00:26:25 person in his house. He's Paco, the day of today,
Starting point is 00:26:29 you pass around 10 years. I'm still living there and we
Starting point is 00:26:34 know we we're we've here. In the night's it's inevitable
Starting point is 00:26:38 not to hear because we know that he doesn't get with us over. Respects our things but we know
Starting point is 00:26:46 that's there. We're not the castes we know that those ruses and something, it's the channel that's
Starting point is 00:26:52 the channel that is that's just you know to learn to live with that. The
Starting point is 00:26:56 strange is when when he gets a family new to the house that goes to visit
Starting point is 00:27:00 and they're because for them not normal obviously but me
Starting point is 00:27:05 He says, you want to something that's a little a little a lot of the
Starting point is 00:27:11 family he's bad because is a tia that's a tia that's very a tianosa
Starting point is 00:27:15 and came to visit us to the house. I mean, me suen that. So,
Starting point is 00:27:22 they're all. So, then he said, that he, he said, like,
Starting point is 00:27:28 in this case, like the woman of the story that you're saying,
Starting point is 00:27:32 he's going to fulanita of that, no we're we want to
Starting point is 00:27:35 let's let's get the tia well yeah he goes and says hey hello
Starting point is 00:27:41 family how are they're a night and he's to make to get to a duch
Starting point is 00:27:47 says that the tia the bathroom was in the part of the house with a window
Starting point is 00:27:53 that's that point to put to to the terrain no so then they're
Starting point is 00:27:57 like in the nine of the night the tia was coming
Starting point is 00:28:00 and maybe desnuda and So, agarando there, the twilight, and me that's tapable, you know, and all, oh, what, what, what, an animal? No, he said, a, no, see, a little,
Starting point is 00:28:11 he's, somed there in the ventana, and he's started to read and me started to venter, and he said, all the rizas, because they were the cheneke. The tia, obviously, no, he said, but he says, Paco, is that we've been with him, yeah is part of the house.
Starting point is 00:28:26 So, then it's like an asercamient that they've been with him. but the times that I interact with him by the chaman
Starting point is 00:28:33 is that he he has said he has he has said he has he has taken like a price
Starting point is 00:28:38 the family but that not they are so they're like their
Starting point is 00:28:43 character each one their form of so are different are very different
Starting point is 00:28:49 and have to have to have to be because there there
Starting point is 00:28:52 are there are so are very so and when
Starting point is 00:28:56 you when you get with malditions. They can they're even with
Starting point is 00:29:02 a little. So, because they're power. But I am a sombra much how they've got
Starting point is 00:29:08 so they're so you could be like? No, the truth is that right that you do you
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm I'm I'm I'm around of these there's there
Starting point is 00:29:20 there many many stories and because not exclusive then they're like it's like
Starting point is 00:29:25 it's it all For example, they're something something like to the chankees are the duendes are some of the
Starting point is 00:29:34 other parts of Europe that are like some very famous no? Yes. And, and fift that there are
Starting point is 00:29:40 some, there's, there's no nomos? But I, Elfos. The Elfos. I have
Starting point is 00:29:44 an amissat very dear and very very very certain a great a great a really
Starting point is 00:29:50 that in his office and in his house he had Elfos these are some
Starting point is 00:29:58 maybe no those know, but they're a newkeito and are like different no.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It's more even they're they're like they're things like they're offrendas too.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, yeah boy and they're and they're they're coming with legends
Starting point is 00:30:12 some not nottitas of where they're they're their um, the cause
Starting point is 00:30:17 the thing is that when they they're one of these monos one of these
Starting point is 00:30:23 one of these elfs you generas like a compromise No, simply not you
Starting point is 00:30:29 can't do you can't do you because you start to make sure to make sure and I
Starting point is 00:30:35 remember much that when I was I was in the office of this friend he
Starting point is 00:30:40 they were in a mess special and they they were they were they were
Starting point is 00:30:44 so they they were like some in the carita I had
Starting point is 00:30:47 like four other other and to these to
Starting point is 00:30:52 these put some little little little something a
Starting point is 00:30:56 senicero, like of barro, with v. Vino Tinto. How, I remember
Starting point is 00:31:01 of that? He was put a white and semillas of hirassol. Okay. And they
Starting point is 00:31:06 were there in the office and he had other in his house, in his court.
Starting point is 00:31:09 So I don't live. He me he was he was he
Starting point is 00:31:12 he said, that they they had that they're, that they're, that they every every time
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Starting point is 00:32:38 and, and, I don't know, what I said, with that tranquillity, so, I don't know, I can say that
Starting point is 00:32:49 I've been, that maybe they've done the hand, I don't me desvivo I don't I'm a put in
Starting point is 00:32:58 it's a person very catholic of a man of a man of a man of the
Starting point is 00:33:05 church of the church and he's but he he said um a little a
Starting point is 00:33:09 sometimes a little the morning and in the time and in the time and in the time I'm yeah no
Starting point is 00:33:15 there's I'm a other day at the officeina and the seeds of yearasol yeah are like
Starting point is 00:33:20 like if they had had been had been have been open in the soil,
Starting point is 00:33:27 those I don't sited and they're and they're they're and then there's there they're
Starting point is 00:33:33 it's like it's like a lot but I'm really I'm impressionable much because some some
Starting point is 00:33:39 some figures even some some some some and even and even and even
Starting point is 00:33:44 and even it's a thing look for all I Paco you how I'm
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm I'm I'm I did of Halapa and there's a calljeon
Starting point is 00:33:55 very particular in Halapa I think is the calljeon of the diamante if I'm equivocal
Starting point is 00:33:59 there and I'm correct in the commentaries but in that alleyon there's infinity
Starting point is 00:34:03 of things of all type but but just me took a town
Starting point is 00:34:09 where these those you're you can you're you can't you
Starting point is 00:34:13 and you and you're you there's there's there there
Starting point is 00:34:18 were in the office no manches fiat that that that's
Starting point is 00:34:22 theme of the compromises one and that's I remember I don't know I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:34:29 he was I don't know he was I'm a company in the secondaria that he was
Starting point is 00:34:33 and I talked about exactly the same that you me said that you they put
Starting point is 00:34:39 a cigar because they just the tobacco and then they'd they'd they'd
Starting point is 00:34:46 they'd they'd alcohol and also so I had secondary,
Starting point is 00:34:52 well, I really me intrigue me intrigue I'm and I'm and I'm you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:34:56 you know, I'm at your I'm at your no, boy no, no no, no I'm so you don't know
Starting point is 00:35:03 I'm so so I remember that he gave to his house and we went to a room
Starting point is 00:35:07 and I'm a repisita there up of the room and I there had various
Starting point is 00:35:11 of all the times from the from the small to the some almost
Starting point is 00:35:17 40 to 35 centimeters and they were they're some feos
Starting point is 00:35:20 so there some He's a lotchus. And, um, and me he says he, he's he's
Starting point is 00:35:26 in the madrugat. He's accosted. Obviously the repista is up. And for him is normal
Starting point is 00:35:32 that the little, that the pernitts kind of, like, like they're moving the pernas. Colgados.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Colgados. So, like, sat down. Sented on the repisit and they're sitting and
Starting point is 00:35:43 they're moving those pieces, no. So, uh, well, but really, there are
Starting point is 00:35:48 people who could be could, you'd would be, you'd with that. I said, I
Starting point is 00:35:52 I see the I see the it's the climate that's so I'm going to be so I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:35:56 but I'm okay, but so there's so there's exactly the exactly the same that
Starting point is 00:36:01 you're so I'm to adopt one of those things is to have a compromise
Starting point is 00:36:05 because there's like a legend of that you know you get to abandoner
Starting point is 00:36:11 or like you you're like you carreas malasuer or a sort or
Starting point is 00:36:16 some kind of some kind of And I'm going to start to get to go some of the
Starting point is 00:36:23 money. Yeah. Because they're supposed They're because they they're doing in the economy
Starting point is 00:36:28 supposedly. But also I've heard of people who have done in pantions that then
Starting point is 00:36:35 they say that the people that these elfs van and they're to turn to the
Starting point is 00:36:40 pantheon. So, they're they're just like a form to liberate to them
Starting point is 00:36:45 without that they're so they're being not I don't know I'm sure of this. The people here me will correct
Starting point is 00:36:52 those who are the people are the but they're in the pantheon way and there's a pantheon in the city of Mexico
Starting point is 00:36:58 where is full of numos of elphos that's, pardon, that the people, they'll get
Starting point is 00:37:06 to attend these, they're going to start maldades and to leave to them they're going and they're
Starting point is 00:37:12 but they're but I'm I'm afraid I'm sorry I'm I'm gonna no, well it's
Starting point is 00:37:17 that's that you well no, Who, who knows? But I want to tell this story also of these
Starting point is 00:37:23 Elfos that they put in the side of because this seguor me wrote about the
Starting point is 00:37:29 state of Guerrero and me he said what he did and very few people,
Starting point is 00:37:35 but that in all his family if it they're because all of the same
Starting point is 00:37:41 all I'm both of his abelos his abelos his abelos and he me said
Starting point is 00:37:49 These phenomena are very recurrentes in certain places that come up with certain specifications that there are a river, that there are trees, so, what we've beening about.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He recalled that he all the time saw these in his house and in the patio. No, I was, I was,
Starting point is 00:38:09 they had to form explicit. He was he had passed one on going to out of
Starting point is 00:38:13 out of he said. He said, he said in one occasion was the per
Starting point is 00:38:17 they had a perr in your house that the perr was in the person
Starting point is 00:38:23 to make you to make a lot of he said he said he was he said he was
Starting point is 00:38:29 he was clearly and he and he they were to hangar the the
Starting point is 00:38:33 person to grunier and they began to the part of the part of the
Starting point is 00:38:38 patas and they pegisgav those and his testicles yes yeah the
Starting point is 00:38:43 and the perro and he was all grunient and when he
Starting point is 00:38:47 to the chaneke, the perr doesn't know nothing. He would be to be able to go ahead. So, no,
Starting point is 00:38:53 he's not, and he's ladrava, vall. So, for him, this was very normal.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Tavlo that this has said that he has been 30 years that he he was
Starting point is 00:39:03 a little he was a man, he said, that they're that they're that they're very normal
Starting point is 00:39:10 even to get to have to two to three chenekees living in
Starting point is 00:39:14 house. So, the families They'd have to have to three Ceres abitando their house
Starting point is 00:39:19 and that there were many people that they were that they're a raya so what they did
Starting point is 00:39:24 put them you know you know you're or recurried with the chaman with the
Starting point is 00:39:29 and the and here there people there were people and they they'd
Starting point is 00:39:35 that they're they're to come in the but when they they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:39:40 all they're all their all to their they're basically discontrollers
Starting point is 00:39:49 but he he wants to tell an anecdote that he lived in the cheneques that were in
Starting point is 00:39:55 his house he said he said he he said he said he had a lot to have a baby
Starting point is 00:40:01 but that his prima had much fear because in the area where the area of
Starting point is 00:40:07 a zone where the people or the people or the people and they were
Starting point is 00:40:11 too they were said as as we have also commented in the
Starting point is 00:40:16 channel when when was a baby is a motive
Starting point is 00:40:20 of that they they visit these women so
Starting point is 00:40:24 she she had much because with other other
Starting point is 00:40:28 the other other the same the and the
Starting point is 00:40:32 and the baby was sure that that that
Starting point is 00:40:37 was that was that was so then they
Starting point is 00:40:42 have been past three occasions that the baby of his prima
Starting point is 00:40:46 he found in situations very strange. Two times they were
Starting point is 00:40:51 the baby above of the cuna and one one they they were
Starting point is 00:40:56 on on the door in the room so it was a madruada
Starting point is 00:41:02 the mom she doesn't he he doesn't he he's
Starting point is 00:41:07 on the door in the door like so they're like
Starting point is 00:41:11 so his Prima's very, very preoccupated, no know what
Starting point is 00:41:15 does it because they're that's the people, and he says,
Starting point is 00:41:20 I'm going to my abuel decide to talk with the Cheneques. Decide
Starting point is 00:41:26 to do a deal with a person of the person of the people so
Starting point is 00:41:30 always preoccupating like a person and he he gets to pay protection
Starting point is 00:41:34 for his and for the baby so about the and
Starting point is 00:41:39 said and Paco, what I I did, I know I'm that I'm a sombrough
Starting point is 00:41:46 a lot of a night when all I'm I remember I'm desperado for much
Starting point is 00:41:54 the noise that he had out of my house he lived in a very
Starting point is 00:41:58 ample he is a room and be a many
Starting point is 00:42:02 many many people people playing in the man but
Starting point is 00:42:06 they were so for that they were all playing, but they were
Starting point is 00:42:13 like a moor for that nothing and he he's soembro to be
Starting point is 00:42:17 many people that were in the terrain so so they're this
Starting point is 00:42:24 was sure so all the nights I was there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:27 many but one night said that the son little
Starting point is 00:42:31 he started and he started he was very quiet the
Starting point is 00:42:36 environment and in the madru he He was back to start and
Starting point is 00:42:41 be at the way to a way to a little he's but it
Starting point is 00:42:45 he's a great paco like a meter and
Starting point is 00:42:48 a little and he's coming a little to the
Starting point is 00:42:53 house me in the mind a gawal a a
Starting point is 00:42:56 man a man that maybe that opt to this form
Starting point is 00:43:01 and in this moment when when he was back the
Starting point is 00:43:05 the the children were the chaneques started to pederrars.
Starting point is 00:43:11 They started to vent to make them all the lot of the lot of the little bit of
Starting point is 00:43:14 them. They were and they they had the animal and the animal and they
Starting point is 00:43:19 knowjavs and they allianted Paco I said to my abel and only
Starting point is 00:43:26 he was with his puro only he's made a carcajada and
Starting point is 00:43:30 the only he said maldita brute the chenekes let's they're
Starting point is 00:43:34 to get to career. Feliz. Because they were doing their part
Starting point is 00:43:38 of the pact. Wow. I, I know that story, me it's I imagine, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:43 how, like, like, to put them to your side, and get them to occupy
Starting point is 00:43:49 to protect but obviously the other part of the tract is to get them to get to
Starting point is 00:43:54 to your house. So, that they have to they're like to
Starting point is 00:43:58 give us the well, but is the part of the treatment,
Starting point is 00:44:02 so to Fidate that Fortunately My house That's the The house of Your house
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's a It's a No, no I don't I think You're going to feel So I'm
Starting point is 00:44:15 So I'm So I'm No But no Manches Imagineate The scene Kiki
Starting point is 00:44:21 Look There There There There You're Right I'm
Starting point is 00:44:27 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:44:33 I'm I I wanted I I'm I imagined something that's a while
Starting point is 00:44:38 a wall no this is it's difficult of a the kind of put you
Starting point is 00:44:47 in that what I do you are here I want I'm really to have contact with
Starting point is 00:44:52 these not I don't I mean they've like you have said so
Starting point is 00:44:56 I'm like you but also but also like there there's
Starting point is 00:45:01 there's there's there's there there's Cheneck is a good Honda
Starting point is 00:45:05 but also it's the other side. They're very very very
Starting point is 00:45:12 territoriales too of that if you just you just like the permission if in
Starting point is 00:45:18 a moment if you want to you can't you can't have a repressalia and
Starting point is 00:45:23 precisely that is a story that I want to talk in this moment
Starting point is 00:45:27 Paco I go to let's talk the story that me
Starting point is 00:45:31 made a a seguor. So, I'd say, this me the
Starting point is 00:45:36 man to a man to a second. This is me a manned to get a manned a
Starting point is 00:45:39 caro. And I'm and the question. It's in the South of
Starting point is 00:45:43 the country. This is in the state of Campech that is
Starting point is 00:45:47 very in Mexico. This this seeer, this we're going to call
Starting point is 00:45:53 the number is a name. That's that's kind of very feo.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Right me going to get the Arturo. So yeah will
Starting point is 00:46:00 call Paco. Me Quenta Paco, not Paco, the extra normal, but Paco, my seguidor, that he was very little, we'll, we'll back to that
Starting point is 00:46:11 kind of connection that they're with the children, the chankees. He was very little when his family went to a, a species of finca that they gave us, no, they're not, it was more than a a kind of, herence, herency in life, for so I said,
Starting point is 00:46:24 he's, they're given, so those abuelos, yeah were in persons grand, vivian, both, yeah have worked like the earth,
Starting point is 00:46:30 had their animals, but then the people were they're getting to the life of the camp.
Starting point is 00:46:36 So, then they they offered to the father of Paco, that is the
Starting point is 00:46:39 that they said, that they were to that they they were they took them,
Starting point is 00:46:44 for those times, he's he's he's he's got his papas, he had
Starting point is 00:46:53 been in the city, and then was like, move to move to the camp,
Starting point is 00:46:56 at final they're They say, we know that life, the life of the
Starting point is 00:46:59 life of the camp is a lot of a house that is a good, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:04 I'm going to go and then we're so, let me. Then, then he a Paco with
Starting point is 00:47:10 his family and then there was there's some not remodelations
Starting point is 00:47:14 and like, but rather like some things that they're
Starting point is 00:47:19 in a first they're to condition the car the
Starting point is 00:47:24 of the the house of the of the rancho of the rancho of the abelos, because he
Starting point is 00:47:28 was a very deteriorated. And Paco recalls that all the time he was going to do
Starting point is 00:47:38 the door to the circle. And he was he kept playing with his mom, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But the first that you know the question Paco and that is where this story
Starting point is 00:47:46 is where this story is a media extrana, media, obscure, is that they'd they'd have their herraments
Starting point is 00:47:53 and guarded very close of the where they're working not,
Starting point is 00:47:59 as a way they're they're going to get to robar to robar no?
Starting point is 00:48:06 The thing is you know you have to imagine and that the things
Starting point is 00:48:10 appeared in other other side and they they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:48:13 but but that was just only like the first
Starting point is 00:48:16 part um not they're not they're they're they
Starting point is 00:48:22 they're Someone is playing a drama et cetera et cetera no yeah when
Starting point is 00:48:26 he's a very recurrent when you went on the last part of the
Starting point is 00:48:30 circle that they were they were they're they're they're to have
Starting point is 00:48:35 other type of situations uh that that time that they're
Starting point is 00:48:41 they've got their and they had gone to the house to get to the other
Starting point is 00:48:45 day for the morning when they're there there there
Starting point is 00:48:48 a no I don't how I'm a tram a
Starting point is 00:48:52 approximately five meters of the bay that they were componying and they have been
Starting point is 00:48:57 destroyed. Wow. No, there was like to say, hey, someone
Starting point is 00:49:02 is a getting, because it was a place in the city, it was a place,
Starting point is 00:49:08 because I think, they were to do you do that they're so, then so
Starting point is 00:49:12 that's that's so they're much the attention and really really
Starting point is 00:49:15 thought that there was people that were getting to their maldades.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Passed. that day well, so they dedicated to terminar it and they started to paint and they left
Starting point is 00:49:29 the circle in peace. Of there they were to pass to the house. There had to paint
Starting point is 00:49:35 some things not to the fashada as well because the paintura was very
Starting point is 00:49:39 very because they were on the part of the they're working
Starting point is 00:49:44 without without the the circle the time they're
Starting point is 00:49:47 the second the second situation that had in this mudanza
Starting point is 00:49:52 was that started to appear to when they started when they started to the fachada they're in
Starting point is 00:50:01 when the sun they put in the paint the paint the paint the paint the paint
Starting point is 00:50:05 yeah they said well then it's well you say that you get those two
Starting point is 00:50:08 three hands but at the other day they they're at a
Starting point is 00:50:12 one at a half a 30 centimeters there there some
Starting point is 00:50:16 there some those first first thought they were
Starting point is 00:50:20 whewas of mappaches that maybe they had been to re-cargare to the to the page of where they were
Starting point is 00:50:28 they were many, many, much, much, and they were like a pattern in line then they
Starting point is 00:50:34 said, no, no, no, no, no, they can be a mapach. And that was only the
Starting point is 00:50:40 principle. The classic of the pastics of the peddritas they were they started to tear
Starting point is 00:50:47 to the windows. But every this was up a level to get to
Starting point is 00:50:52 that the night that in the nights a Paco, he said, he started to get a collar the
Starting point is 00:50:58 covica and he said that they were they were in the and obviously like a chavito
Starting point is 00:51:04 you start. And I imagine that the obscurit the people, the people that
Starting point is 00:51:08 maybe has to be in a place, how is the dark how are
Starting point is 00:51:13 how are the nights in a house a I'm to make
Starting point is 00:51:17 a pause because you have to say something interesting. I think it was
Starting point is 00:51:20 the year last in the time of the time of the jubes. There was apagones in all Mexico.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I took a pagon that was from a puxtepega to Loma Bonita. I was going to
Starting point is 00:51:30 go to know what are the communities of here is a carcass is a
Starting point is 00:51:35 recorritory of a but generally when you was in the carterter you see the resplandora
Starting point is 00:51:41 in the sky of the mancha oh yeah yeah yeah here
Starting point is 00:51:46 I've got to pass this I don't see, Agua Friya, Benemeter, Guares, the pias,
Starting point is 00:51:52 Tata, Tadalogach, what you know. So, you see in the sky like that resplandor of the next community.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I'm going and I'm going to the first community to Tuxtepeg and yeah, that's that's a
Starting point is 00:52:02 water free. And water in total obscurity, it's been going to get to the water free.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Paco, I'm I'm going to go to my family. And obviously I don't did nothing
Starting point is 00:52:14 because yeah when you you're the head of family and you
Starting point is 00:52:17 You do you make sure even though you're doing like the quake whirta Veeho Aso I do
Starting point is 00:52:22 I'm sure what that way I'm imagine I'm I'm I'm going to pass
Starting point is 00:52:27 communities and I'm and I'm the abagone was from Tuxtepega
Starting point is 00:52:33 to the city Isla it's a so you know so you so you
Starting point is 00:52:36 see you in the sky is a it's a dark but feo
Starting point is 00:52:41 Paco one one is what I you to to you
Starting point is 00:52:44 have got a pagon in the carretera they're going to know what is that's
Starting point is 00:52:47 not to be the resplandor of the city or the community of the public that you know you're going
Starting point is 00:52:53 I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm imagine like you imagineate the
Starting point is 00:52:58 obscurity in a community in a place where there's where no there's there's
Starting point is 00:53:05 that you just that so you're so they're so no man forgetate yeah
Starting point is 00:53:11 well well yes you you you're right so you then you
Starting point is 00:53:15 little lehissimo. That they say that the light of a be at not so how many but even
Starting point is 00:53:21 so the resplandor not you get. So I'm imagine a Paco, little,
Starting point is 00:53:26 when they they're when they start these that's maybe but I say the
Starting point is 00:53:32 chankees cam so the chanke they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:53:37 because you have to say something are very territorial and they they're
Starting point is 00:53:40 they're not they're so they're not they started to hauled his covichas and
Starting point is 00:53:46 they were to hear those pisadas that they were going to as you
Starting point is 00:53:50 know, as you know in the ranches in the communities there are some
Starting point is 00:53:54 some that they still they're so so the then the escalers
Starting point is 00:53:58 crugent and they're and they started to see that they're not that was
Starting point is 00:54:04 the night that started to start to the cheneques
Starting point is 00:54:07 is a one that are very all arragated
Starting point is 00:54:12 these stories no this these experiences. And that was the first
Starting point is 00:54:17 night that they started to do things. Dice, Paco, that other of the situations that was
Starting point is 00:54:21 that was when someone was going to be in the second plant, if there was a bathroom in this,
Starting point is 00:54:29 they had like the cartina, like if were, as of a way, they're
Starting point is 00:54:34 like a thing, they were to be able to use with the carting. That's
Starting point is 00:54:38 he was to the mom in one of those nights and he said
Starting point is 00:54:42 that the was like very nervous because, well, I didn't feel the air and that
Starting point is 00:54:47 he was a door the door of the topetone because he was his his own that he
Starting point is 00:54:52 wanted to be the but that he no he knew, that the only that he was
Starting point is 00:54:57 were some some some pizaditas like mojas that were getting
Starting point is 00:55:02 charquitos oh yeah then that was that was of the things so that
Starting point is 00:55:08 he's that was what what did you what were Rewerer a chaman
Starting point is 00:55:13 They're To call The chaman He comes To the Cajman He says That what
Starting point is 00:55:20 He's going Is that the Cheneques No, accept them That they They were They were
Starting point is 00:55:25 That they were They were They were They were They're They're They're They're
Starting point is 00:55:30 They're To be To be And the About Like Like that Like that
Starting point is 00:55:36 Choke Yeah But when When This new family That's What
Starting point is 00:55:41 That's what he passed to the tithe of these people When they wanted to get her, no? They want to throw. Yes, but a difference of the stories that you've told in this case, when they put in contact the chaman with the chankees,
Starting point is 00:55:54 they're just making clear that not they were to accept them in that house and that they were to do all the necessary for that they not to getar in.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Wow. So, I said, jose you but if they were, or yeah not you told?
Starting point is 00:56:10 No, Yeah, I don't they went to live. The sir, what he said
Starting point is 00:56:13 that he did, that you know that he's that he's not a lot of that he's he said, no,
Starting point is 00:56:17 that was yeah the last time he was there. He gave like the control to the series. If they were,
Starting point is 00:56:23 they said, you know, we're going to get to be borkas, not it's not a lot of all the
Starting point is 00:56:28 days, but not it was a situation with that they're not that they're that they're
Starting point is 00:56:34 there's, you're not there's that they're not there's that they're so this and this
Starting point is 00:56:40 totan the sillas and it's and it's going to and
Starting point is 00:56:43 it's and you know, and that's not that's so I'm going to
Starting point is 00:56:50 the story we're a little a technical well okay like you
Starting point is 00:56:53 said I'm to tell this story that me to get
Starting point is 00:56:57 to that this series but but vending of
Starting point is 00:57:03 on the dark this story see that I tell
Starting point is 00:57:06 too has a certain like with a story that anteriorly but it has a seclaced very aterrador
Starting point is 00:57:14 this person me says that's a little little little of guerrero fiatte like it's repit in these
Starting point is 00:57:20 states between guerrero veracru canpeche merida yucatang and that
Starting point is 00:57:27 in the town there was there a part where there had an 15 casas
Starting point is 00:57:32 and in those casas for family there had of three and five
Starting point is 00:57:37 I mean you You know, you Imagine you As the times How were the patio of those
Starting point is 00:57:42 houses full of the kids then he was part of one of those families
Starting point is 00:57:49 in that then he's he was he said and me said that all the times
Starting point is 00:57:54 all the kids in a part near where they are the house
Starting point is 00:58:00 and you can imagine you imagine to the quantity of people
Starting point is 00:58:04 playing a pattying but when they were to do the 6 6.5
Starting point is 00:58:12 that yeah started to darkening the kids had to get to their
Starting point is 00:58:17 because I'll the night in a world is that that's obscurity
Starting point is 00:58:22 absolute and we we're there there's there so before that
Starting point is 00:58:28 so before the all the kids were to get to the night because
Starting point is 00:58:35 no there was light. Then he said that one once that they were
Starting point is 00:58:39 playing, he went to his house, he got like at the 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:58:47 he took in the door of the house. It was the mom
Starting point is 00:58:52 of a kid to the we're to get the mom of Julian
Starting point is 00:58:57 and when was the person that was the person that me
Starting point is 00:59:03 had seen a his Julian had five years and he said oh yeah
Starting point is 00:59:07 no they're not not here no fiatte that you get all the children
Starting point is 00:59:13 and then he's not he gets how in that so we're well we're it's a
Starting point is 00:59:21 people people people people started to to to look to Julian
Starting point is 00:59:24 and Julian no didn't appear and he no apparently
Starting point is 00:59:29 and not they did they did they did they did all with lanternas
Starting point is 00:59:34 no they're they're they're the day next they're on the
Starting point is 00:59:39 people don't know they're they're the man they're not for disappeared
Starting point is 00:59:44 no they're the people the people they do they're like these
Starting point is 00:59:50 times how they they're an name Asambleas in an
Starting point is 00:59:55 in a part of the public where they're like a salon little
Starting point is 00:59:58 and all they're all they're what's what's How is possible that a kid
Starting point is 01:00:03 is possible that in a community where all they know. That's not you see to those people going to
Starting point is 01:00:09 go to the school from from the school from exactly. Exactly. So it was a supermente
Starting point is 01:00:13 extrano that a man who has had been so they had robbed. The case is that
Starting point is 01:00:18 never encountered a Julian. Well, in that moment. The kids,
Starting point is 01:00:23 he said Paco, my mom yeah no I'm never
Starting point is 01:00:26 to make to make a something to crime. But after they started no
Starting point is 01:00:32 see the the bruchas or something I don't know they're they're all the forms possible of
Starting point is 01:00:39 what was what was what was what he said that was like two months and then
Starting point is 01:00:46 again so are a ching of chame in the people they're all
Starting point is 01:00:50 all of all of all so I'm so I'm my mom All. They're
Starting point is 01:01:01 playing in the patio, in the part of the part of there's there's
Starting point is 01:01:07 a carwa. All the people of the community agar water of that's but
Starting point is 01:01:12 that you was said was just I'm to where there's where there there's
Starting point is 01:01:17 where there's there's much malice and they're and they're always
Starting point is 01:01:24 they were all to be to get and a little a little Hey, hey, no,
Starting point is 01:01:29 Sueltem, let's see. All the all the kids bolted, and it was almost and they were
Starting point is 01:01:36 that two two kids that were they were going to they were, like the a little
Starting point is 01:01:42 at the post. In that moment, all the people started to get to
Starting point is 01:01:47 his papas and all the people and got to get to
Starting point is 01:01:50 and they were to the little they were that were two people.
Starting point is 01:01:56 or that they were that when when they were that the people started to get to
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Starting point is 01:03:11 So, the person that's that says, I saw how they're doing a little bit, how they're They're impuged, because even they were in enoched and they were in the pozo.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Much of many people saw how they're even there there's that they were to be
Starting point is 01:03:26 that they're to be in this moment the little she said that he he was to go to
Starting point is 01:03:33 his house and that the milpa he they started to say and
Starting point is 01:03:38 come come and and she's and come go
Starting point is 01:03:42 and and and exactly the they're they're they're
Starting point is 01:03:49 at the and they're in that moment the people assembly assamble
Starting point is 01:03:54 to the day a a man a that no
Starting point is 01:03:59 he said he said I I see that Julian
Starting point is 01:04:04 also they they're they're they're but I had
Starting point is 01:04:08 much fear to say so so the the same
Starting point is 01:04:12 people they're they're they're they're they're we're we're
Starting point is 01:04:19 we're to tapar the we're to do the solution to this if they're they're
Starting point is 01:04:23 they're they're going to go to get to all the next day all the people
Starting point is 01:04:27 was all the person but the but the father of julian
Starting point is 01:04:31 decided before before before he's because he's he not
Starting point is 01:04:38 had the experience to encounter a his two five years.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Well, Baja with the people of the people. Dicen the persons
Starting point is 01:04:50 and he that only was he said the grito of the man. They were
Starting point is 01:04:55 to get grittando, and in his arms he had to his his his
Starting point is 01:05:02 when they're they're they're the was he was Julian but
Starting point is 01:05:10 the present changes in his body. The little the little
Starting point is 01:05:15 the car is like if he would have embegecised all the car
Starting point is 01:05:20 but the body the rosa was embege and his
Starting point is 01:05:25 feet and his feet is like if they were doubled and
Starting point is 01:05:29 they they're put and they're the those whesitos
Starting point is 01:05:33 of their column were because he had delgast
Starting point is 01:05:37 much but this they had no present signals what is that
Starting point is 01:05:42 is a strange is that he's not in any process
Starting point is 01:05:46 of a discomposition it's like it's like it's
Starting point is 01:05:51 like all the people got and this this what I
Starting point is 01:05:57 did this my parents if you talk with
Starting point is 01:06:00 with they they they're they they're they they're
Starting point is 01:06:04 they're they the people did how julian had been
Starting point is 01:06:07 been been And if retomable the history of the Chanekes, it's said that some robin'nions to help them like them. Here what I'm amazomber is
Starting point is 01:06:20 how they've encountered a Julian and his state. Because, a pastal that they've been passed two, three months, the body not was in process of discomposition.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It was like dormido. But, sin signals. And the changes notorious. That story me gets,
Starting point is 01:06:37 me a sombre because, I go, they're very beautiful the stories of the of the side of the one, of that they're in the
Starting point is 01:06:43 house, but existen who are and who are, and who who are, who are, then you know,
Starting point is 01:06:52 to have a bad to be a bad for not to have a little bit of a situation. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:59 we've been a lot, are things are different temperament, not all they are all the most that
Starting point is 01:07:07 is what that's the people now that I've got the opportunity to start in Merida
Starting point is 01:07:11 visit Uxmal There's a Uxmal Uxmal I think there's There's a There's a There's an
Starting point is 01:07:20 There's an There's Even in the Tendas There's There Literature to respect
Starting point is 01:07:29 of the Alushes Yeah Descriven to these I go For the people that
Starting point is 01:07:34 I'm not not stay familiarized And we're talking of the chankees and the alushes. Descriven to the alushes
Starting point is 01:07:41 as a lot of stature very bad a lot much 50 centimeters and a medium metro as just
Starting point is 01:07:51 you know you just you you're with his cars embegecised and in the case
Starting point is 01:07:57 of this zone of the country of the peninsula those those
Starting point is 01:08:02 those retratan bestidos with the plens mayas are summently characteristics.
Starting point is 01:08:11 When when we listen to Lush, the Mexicans, this, this, this ser that presentable in the Lucha Libre Mexican, no,
Starting point is 01:08:22 that accompanied a Luchner, to Teneblas Jr., Alouche, that, but, certainly was a person of stature
Starting point is 01:08:29 a back with a and like a peluchy so blank, no, but just if, if you, If you remember,
Starting point is 01:08:36 I don't know if you know, and we could give a lot of the boy of the muke no,
Starting point is 01:08:40 this, well, no, the other of this, of this ser that accompanied
Starting point is 01:08:44 these lotchators. I'd I'm not typical, but so doing reference to
Starting point is 01:08:52 the pre-Hispani no? So, so they they're so they're not, from the
Starting point is 01:08:59 place where they're they're, they're to give us some they're to give us
Starting point is 01:09:04 are like you are very territorial and you know only
Starting point is 01:09:09 they're in the places in the places with much the peninsula of Yucatang
Starting point is 01:09:15 is it's that the Alushes live in the sonotes that have
Starting point is 01:09:22 a preference very arraigated for this for this type
Starting point is 01:09:26 of of look obviously also a man has
Starting point is 01:09:30 been he was living a time more less
Starting point is 01:09:33 two three months in in Campeche his her mother she's with a
Starting point is 01:09:38 with a canpechan no see if it's the gentilicio correct to Campechano I think
Starting point is 01:09:43 no I don't think it's no but the point my kind of Paco is
Starting point is 01:09:48 that he he has he has he has to some years this is this this is
Starting point is 01:09:55 this is Nestor with the the episode I'm with my commercial
Starting point is 01:10:00 of no me is for the ventana so he he was doing some and he's
Starting point is 01:10:05 he was very a friend of some people to make a Mr. Nestor he likes much peskars
Starting point is 01:10:08 if you do in the social and they they're to see in the people who
Starting point is 01:10:13 and then there's and there two stories that I want to that I'm
Starting point is 01:10:18 the day of day of a bit of another other other other thing to come too much
Starting point is 01:10:24 the attention here here I'm to make a pause of the talk of the
Starting point is 01:10:27 aluches because are places with some with much mystery
Starting point is 01:10:29 I said I said And right I'm And it's I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 01:10:36 say, right, I say, because one of the things that we're talking about in the fishers is that they're
Starting point is 01:10:41 naturally, they're to make to make a mar open, to realize their
Starting point is 01:10:44 work. But what what of a person is that is that these
Starting point is 01:10:49 people are even in the press, the people that people that are to get
Starting point is 01:10:55 to get mohars go in in his chalup in his chalupas it
Starting point is 01:11:00 do do do So, so they'd be told them that Yeah, they'd have passed many times and that they're relatively accustomed because they'd that not bad when they were nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:12 When they were in the skyl there was a ball of fire. This, you know, we've been talked about here. And, of a repent, we're thinking that it's like very characteristic of the area, no? That the ball of fire
Starting point is 01:11:27 Baja of the Serro and all that's me appear in the
Starting point is 01:11:30 carterterter but here this me really the attention and not I'm
Starting point is 01:11:35 because I'm because I tryer the exclusive here a podcast extra
Starting point is 01:11:39 normal says Nestor that these these people one of
Starting point is 01:11:46 the days that they said they said you need to come a year
Starting point is 01:11:50 a year we came the ball of we we're
Starting point is 01:11:54 we're five we we've in the embarkation and
Starting point is 01:11:57 we all we're doing. Wow. He's what doing, and it's something very similar to what happens
Starting point is 01:12:02 with the Alushes. They're they're doing so, that they're to start malditions.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Yeah, this is this entity, and that the ball of the fire so it's and that
Starting point is 01:12:14 it's not that it's not it's not that it's allege, but it and it's it's going to be coming
Starting point is 01:12:19 to be going to we're talking and that we didn't want I didn't let you let me
Starting point is 01:12:24 let's go and the other that's the other that's what happened this friend there's
Starting point is 01:12:28 in Campeche is that they there's a place a place where
Starting point is 01:12:34 there's a place that has a story very particular
Starting point is 01:12:37 that the people they are that not you
Starting point is 01:12:44 not you not you not it is that it's
Starting point is 01:12:47 a place is that has another complication distinct
Starting point is 01:12:52 and has much to with the podcast that
Starting point is 01:12:55 we we are doing today. There people that have meted to nathar
Starting point is 01:13:01 that no does the question and it's a little they're to get to see how they
Starting point is 01:13:08 they're to get a and they get a little little that they they're
Starting point is 01:13:13 to get and they're and not is one two people that
Starting point is 01:13:18 that's even even like the people the people they're
Starting point is 01:13:21 the people they're that not one of these pescadores is the
Starting point is 01:13:28 that's the story to my companyer and precisely we were talking today in the morning, yeah that
Starting point is 01:13:34 we're repasantly what of the year. He said he was recently that his husband
Starting point is 01:13:43 not was of Campeche that he he was known in the city of Puebla and they
Starting point is 01:13:48 they were to live to Campece and they started so that naturally
Starting point is 01:13:52 he he de repent and he was he was he was
Starting point is 01:13:56 his wife he started to make a family and to get a other
Starting point is 01:14:00 and to get a time and they're to get to get to get to
Starting point is 01:14:04 and they and they started like people also that not how
Starting point is 01:14:09 I was that this place of this I'm I remember I'm
Starting point is 01:14:15 I'm I'm I'm remember but no I don't I'm
Starting point is 01:14:17 don't say a don't I think it's this champototon
Starting point is 01:14:19 or one a something so so so So then says that in one of those
Starting point is 01:14:25 her spouse started to be amigas of other esposas of the men who were there are a groupito of three
Starting point is 01:14:31 and that they said there was that there was a place that was a place that was a very beautiful, but what
Starting point is 01:14:39 never they said is that the sonote that they were the senote where they had been pasted
Starting point is 01:14:45 some situations even even had had been murders in this cenote yeah had been
Starting point is 01:14:50 people that had had been people who had had been had been So, so they chakaban key on calamber, that comiste,
Starting point is 01:14:55 before you metter to the water, things for the style. But the localeons have been the reality of the history. So these three women,
Starting point is 01:15:03 it's very easy to go to picnic. Passed a time very agree, very a gusto. It's, like, the people of you know,
Starting point is 01:15:11 and we know, are we know, are very coldosos. So, so it gets the moment in that it's to get to get to
Starting point is 01:15:17 a clavado. So, then these women, it's is easy to make to get to the water.
Starting point is 01:15:23 They're and they're natuading a rattle all normal like there all very very quiet
Starting point is 01:15:28 then it's a moment in that two of these three amygas and the
Starting point is 01:15:32 kind of is the husband of this piscator of Nestor then then she
Starting point is 01:15:38 she she was to get to get to get the and they started to
Starting point is 01:15:44 hangar the and it and it's started to undir and as she and how
Starting point is 01:15:47 put she she It was a type that was, yeah I said tip to the but it was a
Starting point is 01:15:55 woman, but it was a little bit so rapidly he went to and in the moment in that she took the water because
Starting point is 01:16:02 like it like clavado rapidly thinking that was thinking that was calambrando her she, in the
Starting point is 01:16:07 moment, it said, yeah when they put back, she said that in the moment in
Starting point is 01:16:11 she said she she felt for her in that she knew like if they were like she
Starting point is 01:16:17 put patelial and she took an moment she, what he did was to turn
Starting point is 01:16:23 to the water as far to know, so are very clear as in the
Starting point is 01:16:28 enotes and that he came to see the little very little
Starting point is 01:16:33 little that they were notading to the front but
Starting point is 01:16:36 very rapidly. All she she spant much how
Starting point is 01:16:41 put to go and he put a and he is
Starting point is 01:16:44 when the miga la ha and how they
Starting point is 01:16:48 they're they so it so it It's so agitada, when Regressan,
Starting point is 01:16:52 then you imagine the marineras, the marital and he said how he had talked about, the other said, no,
Starting point is 01:16:58 well, I was that I'm not, I'm not, is that you know, it's the place, this and this,
Starting point is 01:17:03 and this, there's been there's aogated there. And what the people of that's the person,
Starting point is 01:17:07 it's this that in this place, abitant the chankees and that not permit that they're
Starting point is 01:17:14 to contaminarles the water. That is like the thing that they're and are they're
Starting point is 01:17:18 doing, not they're They're, they're They're in They're So, Guardianses So,
Starting point is 01:17:23 So there You know, you know, And is that You know, You know, And there's There's a
Starting point is 01:17:28 There's a Many Yes, I'm sure Sul, Chiltepeg Agatepeg And there's And there's
Starting point is 01:17:35 And is that And, I mean, I'm, I mean, I'm just Justo of Yucatang
Starting point is 01:17:40 Um A, A salute to A lot To all the people of The This,
Starting point is 01:17:45 well, they tend to Pending to make permission to a type of ceremony when they're to do some type of construction
Starting point is 01:17:51 or that are going to invade, well, the majority of the cases, the people who is very crevient of these, of these phenomena, they're always a ceremony,
Starting point is 01:18:03 accompanied with a chaman, for to give permission to the nature, to these beings of the nature, that are the cheneques, the Alushes,
Starting point is 01:18:11 for that they are to make, even when you go to you go very So, with these zones of the president of
Starting point is 01:18:19 here of Mexico andres Manuel with the train maya, they've done these type of ceremonies for that no
Starting point is 01:18:24 there's no problem in the time that they're constructing, they're doing, they're doing, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:31 invading a little the place. So there people who have done, have done that type of
Starting point is 01:18:37 ceremonies for that they're like they're like they're like a permission. It's like
Starting point is 01:18:42 when you if you you enter without to pay permission and you enter so I know, well, I
Starting point is 01:18:46 enter or because yeah. So, really there there's people that say there's a
Starting point is 01:18:52 person, you're going to get to work, you're going to be able to, so they're so they're
Starting point is 01:18:58 doing, they're doing their territory and as they're very territorial that obviously they're very they're much
Starting point is 01:19:04 what they have to and they're and not want people to come to invade or that
Starting point is 01:19:08 come to do, well, obviously there will be a problem, no.
Starting point is 01:19:12 They're saying that there a chanex in the discotheca of here my de those things way no manch
Starting point is 01:19:18 cack me you me let's for the of the muke no man so you
Starting point is 01:19:23 don't say that you said that here I'm yeah that every that every that
Starting point is 01:19:29 every no way no we don't we're gonna we're gonna we we're gonna
Starting point is 01:19:36 we don't we're gonna we we're just we yeah because then I'm like
Starting point is 01:19:39 I'm gonna grab with I'm here here in the pitch difficult I'm going to start the garra Yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:45 I'll go ahead I'm going to I'm going to I'm sure Yeah, well No manches It was like It's too much
Starting point is 01:19:51 Acapitual Amigo Thanks for Have been Oh, I'm Before before Before I'm
Starting point is 01:19:55 I remember I remember I was a In one of The episode In one of the Ewee And already
Starting point is 01:20:01 Precisely For this time of the Chenekees that we're talking and The Wendezes and the
Starting point is 01:20:06 Elfos And this It's I don't We still We're still We're Because it's
Starting point is 01:20:11 car It's caro the time of satellite. Fygette that I investigated a little about this the legwa is
Starting point is 01:20:17 a deidad African that has been with the santaia with the Yoruba Legua. The Orushas
Starting point is 01:20:23 Orishas Orishas I'm I'm to get you for you for you for you
Starting point is 01:20:28 do you do you represent them like a skin of color black and
Starting point is 01:20:33 and and in the characteristics that has this deidid African is that is a
Starting point is 01:20:40 juggeton that is travihoso He called the prince of the Camino's It's supposed That in the
Starting point is 01:20:45 Deidates of the Orishas is the He defines the destiny of the Ombers And
Starting point is 01:20:53 you have to have a good relation with this Deidat The Ewa or Ewa I don't know
Starting point is 01:20:58 how it pronounced And it And it And it's very Arregated In the
Starting point is 01:21:02 Santeria With With this Choch Cultural of the people Afrodescendient
Starting point is 01:21:07 So it begins kind amestis a Mestisisis a customs
Starting point is 01:21:11 Mexicans So, so, so, so. So, so, I'm,
Starting point is 01:21:16 I'm, because it's very much to be precisely they're like,
Starting point is 01:21:18 I'm like a little of real of black. Yeah, is traviso, it's
Starting point is 01:21:22 jubgeton, he doesn't that they want much attention and also that
Starting point is 01:21:26 they're that's, because he when he he's a good, with the things that
Starting point is 01:21:32 you do he does, he is able to disviart to your and make
Starting point is 01:21:37 you get you in the sense figurated from talking of the life,
Starting point is 01:21:42 that he can make that you desvies and you get to you get to you know there's a
Starting point is 01:21:48 there in all the this is this is exclusive fifte how I'm prepare for to be you
Starting point is 01:21:53 want to my people to be a normal. And lookate that the phenomenon
Starting point is 01:21:59 in see is curious because it's because it repite in many
Starting point is 01:22:03 places of many cultures of many cultures if we we
Starting point is 01:22:08 you say's the other other side of the world way, they're like those duendes those duendes these series that also
Starting point is 01:22:13 are there's they're like much the little little the world the things brilliantes really
Starting point is 01:22:20 they're all even in the culture Japanese also in the people are these they're they're present
Starting point is 01:22:27 to them they're just they're they're just they're the same the same so they're
Starting point is 01:22:33 not see some even elementals that they're they're You're in the bosques,
Starting point is 01:22:39 in the selves, but this phenomenon me causes much a, no see, me confunded
Starting point is 01:22:47 and me a sombra because it's the same how it's how can be cultures so distant
Starting point is 01:22:53 and that all the time there there's many times we're not in the thing of
Starting point is 01:22:57 that's exactly. Exactly exactly how basically they describe in the
Starting point is 01:23:02 same but very very arraigated to his culture to all
Starting point is 01:23:08 what they have to be with your but at the final of the kind of it's the
Starting point is 01:23:10 same so we're of the people that are very antivates and that much
Starting point is 01:23:18 people have taken like these these encounters with them comment us how
Starting point is 01:23:24 they're interesting and so yeah and if existent yeah not all they
Starting point is 01:23:29 know not all they know even in Mexico not not all all those know
Starting point is 01:23:34 the term chaneke is go more for the part of the part of the
Starting point is 01:23:38 city of the exactly, no there's not exactly, no they know, that's not yeah, so Cheniques is
Starting point is 01:23:45 Veracruz Merida Guerrero so are zones very specific Yeah, sure,
Starting point is 01:23:53 sure, this, no? Exactly, but well, there we have those
Starting point is 01:23:56 comments Kike, Kike, record us your social so far that the
Starting point is 01:23:59 people go and know the work and that's my question.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Thank you, in networks now we're trying to put to puttala this project
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Starting point is 01:24:26 project an idea there to bring a line telephonic there's like
Starting point is 01:24:30 to give those photos photos that have evidence for the moment
Starting point is 01:24:34 we can do inbox in Instagram. I'm to thank you. I'm sure. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:40 If I'm a time like to learn something like the podcast. You made the other day a little day a little
Starting point is 01:24:46 and the really to be much to be running. Look, for example, we have a invitation.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Paco, let me say, Ale Castellon I'm a send a saludo.
Starting point is 01:24:56 She's to say, she's of Masatlan. We say my passatient favorite is to see
Starting point is 01:25:03 them to you. I can see And then that voice. That's all. So, well, of the really,
Starting point is 01:25:11 much thanks. We say that ohalal, I'll someday could know us in person. My mom has many
Starting point is 01:25:17 stories of Mastatlan in Nalaoa and they're very very well. Much more. Thanks. Thank you. I,
Starting point is 01:25:23 I really, I'm really, I'm trying to read all the comments. In some moment, we're going to
Starting point is 01:25:28 do you and you together in socials. Kike and I will be to start Ciudad of
Starting point is 01:25:33 Mexico. we're going to be in, no see, that's a now we're going to live a little with the followers I'm going to
Starting point is 01:25:41 see. I'm glad to. If you do do you do do it's we do we're doing we're doing, we're going to do do things and
Starting point is 01:25:48 we're doing this is only the first is only the first of the people, they're also, they're also the project of the project
Starting point is 01:25:55 of Kike, no mired for the ventana because the better is to come in so we're
Starting point is 01:25:59 we're working in many we're doing in many to all the people, of heart
Starting point is 01:26:06 really, because it's a theme that's a really, and I think he'll have to discover
Starting point is 01:26:10 too, man. There's a way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Thank you. I was, I was, I'm really very content. If it's has been like a
Starting point is 01:26:21 sort of catarsis, I've encountered in this, even, even, even,
Starting point is 01:26:27 let's, I've started to learn a little more of stories, like you're
Starting point is 01:26:31 about your MEDOS. Sure. Let's a phrase yeah to and not continue to
Starting point is 01:26:36 extend it. Because I know that Paco is a money of time of satellite. But it's
Starting point is 01:26:42 a phrase that I hear Will Smith, he said in one, in a video that I took the
Starting point is 01:26:47 opportunity to see, that God put the things of the life behind of our
Starting point is 01:26:52 best of our life. Exactly. There's to confront those. We can confront us.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Today, I'm I'm so, then you have the value, but
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