EXTRA ANORMAL - 78 | Mi mamá me ofreció a LUC1F3R , especial día de las madres
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Hello,
Hello,
to be
a little
to a podcast
my name is Pacuarias
and I'm very content
to be
here with all
you this occasion
is an occasion
is a special
because it's
a special
Day of the Madres
and, well,
in this occasion,
Me, my mom, Elsa Garcia.
How are you, Mamie?
Very well.
Very content.
No, you're not.
No, for nothing.
The fact, I'm really,
I'm very content of that
you're here number one
because I here
have told me,
I've robbed your stories.
The fact is that
many people
know some of the stories
that I've told.
But I think
that would be super
deluxe,
that no,
you know,
you're to
first time,
yeah that you
were the person
that lived
all this.
Before
to start,
I want to give you a super
Abrazo a Distanceia and
my felicitation to all those
Madrecities that
in this night of terror
to all the Mammies and the
that are for being Mammies
also I'm going to send a
great abrass of much
Corrason.
I want to start
with this night of
stories of terror.
Today, as you've
heard, and as you've
heard you come to my
Mom.
So, we're going to
talk some of
some stories that
we've prepared for
all of you.
Before to start
also, I
I invite you to subscribe
on the channel.
If we're
on Spotify,
also you can
go to find out of
this project
for you can't
more and more
projects more
ahead.
Well,
Ma, we're going to
start with this.
No.
I know if you
know, but
when we
we're the
first time
that someone
is the first time
I'm going to
ask a
problem?
Yes.
If you
do you're not
in the paranormal?
Yes,
I think.
There's a
story that
I'd like
to tell us
because I
I have a story
of a
master.
So,
I always
I've
said here
abertamente
in the public
that
both the
doctors,
as far as
people,
people who
have
had been
to go
to go
to
a
community
to
work
at a
some
a
local
is when
you
see
things
of the
that
you
don't
have
there
there
there
there
a
thing
I said
to
some
moments
the
Conted one
but I
think it would
be very
interesting that
you know
that you
know what you
did you
know that you
know that's
I'm a
time in a
community
not going to
say exactly
what community
but it's
yeah for
Usila
well
well for those
who not
for those who
know who is
a people
that is
a place
in the state
of Oaxaca
until
there just
like six
hours
of here
where
where we
don't
so
then
then I
I'm
to the
community
and
I was
a
quartito.
Well,
I
got in the
room
I'm
installed.
It was
a
room
of material
with
doors
very
bonit
and
I
came
and
I
in the
night
I
felt
I
that
a
woman
and
and
she
me
and
and
I
started
and
I
was
you
were
a
woman
because
you
I
did
a
occasion
Oh, okay.
It was.
Then,
then I
started to
do much
a lot.
What I
did?
I said,
I said I
did
much fear.
I'm going
to be in
my
doors
because
no enter
nobody.
And I
let my
light
on the
light
and my
surprise
is that in
the
night
I'm
I'm
the focus
was
abacked
and the
I'm
and me
I'm
well,
And no, I'm going to see the appagator, and the appagator
was apag. And I said, well,
who came to do?
Who came to the light?
Who came to do?
Well, me kept.
At the other day, I mannedishia, I, with moretones.
In the body, in the arms, in the
legs. And I said, well, this
you, well, this now me is not going to.
Are you, like, chuppetes, chuppetones,
as if you know, even to me
I just me
d'n't
because
they were
to think
in my
students,
no,
your
other,
my friends,
no,
your
other,
well, and
I was,
I was,
what was,
a time,
a time,
I,
I,
I lived in
a loomita,
one
a time,
there,
there was
an
assembly
general of
the
people,
and I
knew,
how
they'd
and I
were,
the issue
was
still,
and I
me
Knew,
well,
what's
what's
what's
they're doing?
And as
aoteco,
I don't
get to
understand.
So,
I waske
some of
those chachit
that were
there,
and they were
in the
school.
And I'm
what about
there?
What problem
there?
And me
they say,
no,
he's what
what
what's,
well,
Maestra,
there's,
here are
many
there's,
but one
of them
is doing
much
damage.
Because
apart
of
being
be a
bruce
she
can be
in Nagual
and he
going to
do that
the
milpa
and the
embradives
of the
people
and the
animals
I imagine
too
yeah
yeah
and then
and then
and you
don't
we
want us
and
then
the
people
will
be
a
vote
to
so
so
so they
know
they
they
they
they
were
they
they
and
they
and
me
say
and
what
cre
maest
that
I think.
Live
Peggedito
where you
live.
Ah, so
that's
I'm sorry.
In serious?
Yes.
I'm sorry.
Yeah,
you know,
you know.
Peggedito.
What's
two meters
of distance?
Ah,
well,
the other
house basically
that was
that you're
at your
side.
And I
did I,
oh, God
my.
The
thing was
that the
assembly
demor,
demur,
and for
finally
they've
got to
get to
back.
So,
it's
between
commillas.
So,
well,
I'm
I'm kind of
when I'm
when I'm
when I'm
see, if
you've seen
the
light, how
it's,
yeah,
is it's
great,
it's,
you know,
has to
count
like a
ballon of
those
of
play, no?
Yeah.
I'mpe
to see
like five
balls
of the
game.
All
to the
and how
and how
they were
I found out that there
people and they'd
and they'd
and they'd
and I'm
looking and
I'm looking
and I'm
to say to
the
lady
I'm
what is
that's
they're
that's
that are
that are
that's
that you
say you're
in serious
so
met
and says
not I'm
not I'm
saying
not you're
seeing
so that
then so
to
I'm
I decided
I'm
I'm
I don't
I want
I don't want to, because
all the nights
amending I
moreteer.
There's a
occasion in
that I remember
that you
contests, we
have a
woman,
well, I
have a
mother, a
daughter of my
mom,
that in
that she
had,
she had days
to have
been born
and so
so,
and so
as the
place
was a
place,
I was
she was
there,
then,
you'd
Monday to
And
back
the
time.
So,
the
little
my
mother
was
a pecho
was
a
lactate.
And
there were
occasions
where
she
had
to
get to
not
so.
Yeah
then
when
they
started
certain
things
she
decided
she
decided
she
and
cut
like
the
lactancy
because
there
an
anecdote
that
you
me
told
one
when
when
you
did
the
how
was
so
ma
was
costada, when
I felt that
someone
was sent to
in my catre.
And me
took.
And I
brinked.
What's
what?
She was.
There was
my
mother.
There was my
little.
I was
I never
did.
Because,
I was
really, I
had a
much
fear.
Yes.
Well,
and
then they
got them
the
woman?
What
happened
after?
No
master
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is an additionality requirement for clean hydrogen
additionality would put an unnecessary and inequitable burden
on domestic clean hydrogen producers
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And they were, and they were.
What happened?
The school, the clausuror.
Ah, la clausuror.
That's not allowed?
It's like 10 years.
That school has no existed.
Fidate, how can't really,
how did it get all of that?
And for something that much
people don't believe.
So, that is the point
that I've talked many times.
that these
are vices
are vices
of places
of places
of different
villages
where really
for example
that you
were you
were in
those years
there were
places
where no
there was
light
electric
was
no obscurity
total
no
no
there was
no
no
I was
no no
I know
I know
no
I'm
so that
that's what
that
imagineate
and then
and then
then
communication,
they were five or six
hours
walking.
Ah, so,
this.
So,
so.
And so,
and then
no maestro
he
didn't know.
Why?
Because
they all
they were
the same
that I
were the
same.
So,
I mean
they were
doing this
experience
with...
Wow.
Yes,
all.
They said,
look,
look,
how I'm
manniko,
I'm
want to
go there.
And they
did the
school.
Ah,
so,
this.
So,
so,
so.
So,
are
experiences
fortisimas
that
ohhalla
there's
some moment
when one of
your
other of your
family
to share
to share
to
you know
to talk
this story
and I
want to
tell
to all
the
people
is a
master
and this
not is
well
it has
been more
20
years
it was
in the
2001
this
master
me
he says
he
he has
well
in the
2001
he
he was
more
seven
years
to
have
given
as
a
teacher
a
a
community
this
was
in the
months of November. He
hegoe
that's a
known as the
Elgid of
Saragosah
in the
municipality of
the state
San Luis Potosy.
Exactly
a region
called like
the Guasteka
Potocina.
He says
that to get
to that
place, it
was a
way, it was a
time long, but
in those
years it was
a way
a way
full of
terraseria
for the
which it
was very
tedious
to be
all the
days, so
it had
to
get to
to keep
He says
that there
a matrimonial
in that
school
that they were
they were
all the days
in a carrito
very big
but that
he gave
a lot of
him to say
he said,
oh,
my master,
I can do
a rye or
me can
go to
me can't
then, so
well,
I'm going to
get to
say to
what the
master's
they said,
well,
if you
go to
get to
you get
in the
house of
the master.
Dice
so if
he's
he's
he
says,
the
fourth
that's
into the
school
Destinado
to the
master
That's
So,
that's
That's
That's
He said
This is
a quarter
of adobe
He said
was made
he's made
of the
lot and
madeira
I'm
very
desquidated
because
it has
much
time
that nobody
he
said
that's
that's
not had
and the
tach
was of
palma
so
I'm
he's
talking,
me's
how
I can't
how other
could say
austere
so
yeah
very
simple, a
place
a little bit
a little
pretty
where you
stood
so I'm
put to
get to
get to
give to
give to
give to
give you
because the
real of the
place
was super in penumbras
was
was so
was
little to
get into
this
quartito
some
some
some
some
people were
very
amable
with me
and
me
prester
some
some
some
like a
camera
so
the
the
maest
they
were
they
they
started
to
help
he
he
said
he
that something that
for him
was that
is that
a part of
the 6
of the
time,
all the
people
was in
in the
whole of
the 6,
7,
the
the people
no had
electricity
quiet.
Quieto.
Kieto.
So,
just you
heard you
the rio
the rio
there of
another
or other
perrito
of the
coyotes.
So,
then he said
he was
doing he was
doings
of the
people.
There was
a man
there was a
man
with the
he
he started
to
do you
he liked
much
to start
to get a
and
he said
it was
it was
very common
in the
careria
of the
so
so I said
in the
classes
and then
after classes
or in the
night
he said
we said
we're
we're just
we're
we're going
to come
and we
said a
night
we're
to cast
yeah
very
time
said it
were
more
or
less or
the
nine
and
we
a bottle of
water.
We're also
where
we're going to
put
like a
recipient
where they
they're
they're
what they're
they're
they're
they're
to go to
a place
that's a
little more
more than
they're
because in
that time
they said
that there
were much
conhejos
so
going in
in plain
obscurity
only with
the
linternas
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
they
one's
one's
to be
by the
other's
by the
And he said that they'd have to be
in a point
Fido where there
a little
in those 15, 20 minutes
in what each
one
started to
one was to cast
to start.
So,
I was going
I went abriending
pass.
It was a
night of
a lunar
and it was
very beautiful
at the
night,
it said
in that part
if there
had been
a little
of the
way,
I was
not to
get to
the point
that to
see a
the
lejos
of two
spheres
rojas.
That,
as you
do you know
that's what
me impression
much.
So,
how
concuerre
in the
stories.
I mean,
it's
like they're
like
like they're
like,
there's like
there's
a little
to get
to get us
a bit
and they
they're going
and they're
exactly.
Exactly.
So,
so
they're
they're like
they're
like being
like they
rebottable
and it's
When I was circling, I said, I was, I said, what carajos I'm looking?
So, what is that?
A loo lex, I see the light of the lantern of my friend.
He said that me was making signs.
But, well, I'm kept impressioned, because he never had seen this.
I mean, he was all new.
No, I didn't even the minimum idea of what I was seeing what was.
So, so, he kept a rata, looking at a point where this was about 20 meters of him.
So, they were close to him.
in that moment
I said
well
out of
spantar me
I'm impressioned
and said
well what is
this phenomenon
I'm
I'm
I'm going
with the person
that
he was with me
when you see
when you
see
when you
don't
let us
come on
we're
like
they're
I'm a tonne
I'm a tonne
I'm still
sarcastic
let's
come on
these are
these are
these are
letunos
let's
let's
they're
they're
that in the
way
they were
man
And he says, no, no, we're not saying, he no
been talking about, and, and
if he was he had a car of preoccupation,
he said, he was, he was, very
impressioned. So, yeah, yeah, impressioned.
So, I was, I was confused, because
one, he's of the people. He should
know what on. And he said, he's the
kind of, he said, no per die
the calm. Get him, he said, me
he said, me, he said, manna,
that day. It's so. It was very
too hard.
Well,
he said.
At the day
next,
he's
he's
he's a
time, it's
not a
time, and
he's done
that when
he gets
to move
and the
person, the
person
he says,
it's
something that's
something that
I was
I felt
the rostro
and sent
the rostro
and I
was sure
not had
termometer
but
was sure
that had
a
body, I
had the
It's like if
I would have,
no see,
like if
something
me would have
been in
the
that I'm
going to be
I'm over.
He said,
I used
to come
with a
woman
of the
woman,
that's the
food and
then I'm
the dinner
and then
I said,
I was,
I don't
go to
go to
and then I
know of
the children
and I
chifle
and said
because
because no
I'm
I'm just
then I'm
he pute
a little
and then
I'm just
he said
I'm done
to do you
do you
send me
to do you
no
I can go
to go to
I said
He went
He went
The kid
He said
He said
Comey
But I
So I mean
I mean
I felt very bad
The body
I don't
All right
All the
All the
Pyrna's
No
I had
He said
He said
Like
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
And in the
Tard
Dise
Yeah
In the
Tardic
At the
Atmuer
The hour of
It's
I'm
It's that
I'm
I'm
normal that I stay
so
I sit in the
camera and
all paris
the pain
and all the
hearticulations
say no is that
I'm going
to come in
and I'm
I'm going
where the
she was
where the
was about 25
30 meters
not was
not even
but
said that
he went
going to
get
so the
of the
the
wall
to get
to get
with the
and the
when the
said
well the
professor that
no
came in
the
man
and
said
But what, what's the
What's the
What you have?
I said, no
I said,
I don't know
I said, I don't
I said,
I gave a
caldito of
pollo, but I
didn't have
I'm hungry,
but I know
I said, but I
know that
was a
so, like
onocheasing
and the
woman in the
table had
a lampara
of gasoline
but when
I put my
arms in the
mess and
me get
like the
resplandor
I did
count
that in
this part
of the
antebrae
had
some
some of the
amount of the
little bit
and two
points in
a minute.
I don't
me
he said
I've seen
me review,
me revised
all the
whole of
those
rudas
he chuped
all the
blood?
Ah,
for
yeah
I'm
the
she said
profe
that has
many many
years
that I
don't
see
in this
moment
me said
the
senior
profe
with
all
respect
kittes the plier
there
there's
the
forth
he's
up
the
whole
the
stomach
the
and the
spottes
and the
chupettes
and the
chupettes
had
two
two ojitos
said
he says
professor
needs
need to
get to
that
that's
because
the bruchas
those
chuparon
that has
it's
many
many many
many
many
many
many
that's
because
they chup
some
and
so
because no
has
a
in the
devil.
It's
very
very devil.
So,
lances
to the hospital
to the
place where
is the
the medical
of the
public,
because this
require
attention
medical.
Look,
before
to go,
I said,
me
there's a
tarah
in the
body,
me did
a hog
mullied,
I'm
like a toper.
The brucas
no tolerer
the odor.
The olor
to the
olor aho.
So,
so,
he said,
I get
with the
doctor.
He did
studies,
they were
to
his
city.
Um,
yeah,
it's
it's like
emogloina.
So,
it's
very
very bad.
Bajissim.
Regressed
to the
public,
because
then he
had to
work,
his incapacity
termina.
He said,
he said,
in the
and so,
and over
all because
the
she said,
when a
bruja
you chupa
will
go to
go to
go to
go,
so when
when you
he gets
the
back to
to come
to come
to
absolutely.
Exactly.
So,
then
he
had
much
But, fortunately,
circa of the two, three
months,
two, three months,
he did the change
of zone.
No, they're
but he
had to external
his situation,
I mean,
basically was much
in risk.
But it's
very curious
the phenomenon
of the
balls of
fire,
because
your experience,
the history
that me
mandan,
and much
more than I
have read,
is a
phenomenon
extrano,
it's a
phenomenon
very
in Mexico also is a
place that is known
because there are
many brusas,
many brusas.
But why do you think
that this
phenomenon
is still doing
today?
Because the
people, well,
is mal.
It's mal.
It's mal.
So,
mal, imagine
that the school
they let's go.
Having
children.
That had
the right
in the
education.
That's
that
that school
was very
very small
where you
You were you, there were three groups.
Three groups.
There were, like, 40 students.
And they used to
go to other people?
To terminate.
To terminate,
so you were
a master of tele-secondary,
right?
So,
so, that's he
did still
the, now
so, the
terminal of the
school,
more complicated.
More
more gastos and
all.
Sufferiment for
the muchess.
Also,
for his
papas.
Also,
for the
Papas, that are the
that's what
that's
they're
there's
another
story that
you want to
you're
in other
school when
I'm
when I
started
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
and
this
like you
you know
there's
always
there's
always
there's
so
then I
said
I'm
the
authority
municipal
maester
the
house
still
not
we're
well
for that you
enter
The house
the master
And he
I said
Well,
no
no
don't
don't
because
there
a salon
new
and I
had
I've
I've
done
no
you know
I'm
going to
get
in this
salon
but
but
how
in what
you
in the
salon
me
the salon
me
adapt
too
well
I'm
well
I'm
I'm
tapable
I
Saturday, all
what I could
put to
put to
put in
to get
to sleep.
Well,
pass the
time
and I
went to
the
next
time
a
Monday.
I go
I
I'm
I
I'm
the
morning
and
pass a
man
there
there
the
sir
was
a
tracito
of the
school
and
he
kept
looking
when
me
he
said
my
master
you doorme there?
He said,
yes? Why?
He said, no
he does
fear? Why, me
going to
give me going to be
there?
My master, says.
The domino
passed
for here
and I
went I
pasted of
copas
me and
merr
here in the
salon where
you doorme
I'm
pass
and you
see
that there
had to
there
classes
Much
Scandal
When the
When the children
say
They're going to
Comeer
You know
They're
They're
And I'm
I'm
I'm looking
And I
And see
Many
Many kids
And I'm
Mention
Creeam
Maestra
He said
That's
He's
He's
He back
He
He
I'm
I'm
And I
I stayed and
out of
my
house.
For that
you say,
if you're
if you're
if you're
I'm
I'm not
I'm not
I'm
but
but after
in what
you're
saying
then you're
I'm
yeah me
I'm
what you
imagine
imagineate
the cheneques
the chanke
the famous
cheneke
those famous
chenekees
those
exist
because I
see
I see
I see
time
time
is
here for
to be
You see, because I have
told here
a lot of
stories of
Chankees.
And I always
I've
said,
the people
that people
that are
because
your mom
or his
abelos
saw that
there's
the response
of why
I'm
my chankees.
Because my
mom
also,
your
abuelita
me
and he
talked about
he was
to get a
lunch to
his papa.
Yeah.
I was
with two
her and she
were three.
When the
other two
did you
didn't
know,
your
abuelita
you
didn't
was
she.
And they're
to see them
And they said
That's
In the mountain
In the mountain
Exactly
And they're
And they said
Because they're
Because also
Elsa
Elsa
And so
So then
What good
That was
A camppesino
And then
He said
What's
What's
What do?
Is that
My
My brother
Is that
My
says, look,
And I'm
Don't
Spanten
Orita
Wulbe
my, my tias
trailed
a sombrero
in the
and they
said,
bolted the
sombrero
and puttance
and right
he'll be
Ditcho and
he's done
the sombrero
and they
grittar
and my
mom
she
kept
parada
saying
being
that his
piernas
were all
lastimated
for the
yerpas
the sackat
you see
the way
the sackate
that
cut them
spina
well
and then
lastimated
and there
comes
and what
you
What happened?
Some
the
little
they'd
say
And so
I said
I don't
say I don't
see I'm
I remember
the story
I'm going to
tell me
she said that
she had a
very
beautiful
limpio
I'm
I said
all
very
beautiful
when
you're
when you
called
I
I'm
in
in the
middle
in
the
mountain
well
so
yeah
so
the
channeques
exist
because
and you
you
those
did
me
I
I mean, in a community.
The choschos
went to education
physical.
Out of the
school,
we need to
come to
a tram.
To get you
see that I
see that
to get to
get more
to get more.
And I said
my
students,
and why
not we
don't we
go to
get to
get to
more
more?
Maestra,
you want
to see?
You want to
let me.
Ah, so
yeah
was a
place.
And then
I said,
yes,
yes,
I want
to be.
And I
want
to know
to know. And me
said, and no, he's
to have to be
myster.
I don't,
no, I'm
going to
get to
I'm going to
I'm going to
get a
catchuchy.
Yes,
so we
went to
go to
see,
so we're
so,
we're going,
we're going
on the
little little
little
little
little,
little
little,
in quackettit
oh,
can I,
when we're
when they're
when they're
they're
to get
to the
because I
know
I'm
most
I'm
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Yes, I was.
I took the grand ditch of
because I don't
think in that
I said that my
mom was a pure
quote.
Yes,
but I,
but I was
in the
chanel.
And there
you're in a
community?
In a community?
Yeah,
here for the
Cañada.
Nah, yeah.
Here's
where you're gonna
the famous
gongos of
Maria Sabina.
Where are
the gongue of
Maria Sabina?
Where are the
never proved, and I
never tried
that I've said
that I'm
in some moment I've said
for you.
a
Sometimes
they're
some
consequences
Yes
Do you
You know
Is there
Some of
What?
Yeah
What happened?
A
Sometimes there
Chantagist
that
They say
They're
They're
They're
Oh, okay
And they
They're
They're
All right
You get
You know
Yeah,
Yeah,
you know
You
You're
You're
So,
I'm
I don't
I'm
I'm
And much
And much
Compaal
So,
So,
there's
Many
Yeah,
I
know, I
I
know
I
Sabina or I
or I say, or I'm
parient, I'm sorry
I'm sorry, I'm
Oh, so
they're a
So, so
And the problem is that
The problem is that
The problem is that
They're not
For times
Ah, okay
They're
They're a time
And you
You're saying
No, well
No, but
No, I'm
It's like
Yeah, like
Yeah, like
Yeah, I'm
Oh, well
I'm another
And so
And so, and
And more
And more,
And then I
They said,
I mean,
I said,
And then they're
They're
They're in
night
Ascuras
Yeah, is that
is what is
a ritual
So I
I don't
No, so
I said I'm not
But if you
Did you have
In some
I'm curiousity
To have
Curricide
Yeah
But at the
Same time
I said no
Oh
Yeah, that
I was
But if
It's interesting
Interesting
I have
I'm very
I'm
Manyctutos
Of the
communities
But
Fiatte Paco
I
I'm going to
One
That's
I can't
I know it, I know it, I don't know it?
No, I remember to have you
I told.
A bit, I'd be, I'm here
I'm going to in plenno center.
Here, of the city?
Here in the city.
Ah, okay, no, I can't see.
I've got two.
I was I'm going to
in a county
very known
in plen no center.
To make
you more.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Two quadras
of the mero center.
Ah, okay.
I was I'm going to
a day like that
of the 6th of the
time.
And the soledicitor,
I started to
go to
go to
see a
silhouette
of a
black,
and I
said,
as I
don't
to top of
people,
not, that
me assault, or
something.
So,
I said, it's
a man,
and I
went I was
like I'm
like a
black,
pantalone,
And I said,
I don't
matter
I'm going to
because
no
we're going to
we know,
sorry
we know
see that
when I'm
I'm
I'm looking
I'm looking
to look
to look
so where
I'm going
I'm going
when I'm
when
I don't
I did
and I
I'm
because I
didn't
I'm
so I
went to
but it
but the other
side
yeah
yeah
And I
And I
Where
So,
And I
I'm still
I'm going to
And I'm
And I'm
And I'm
Back back
I'm going to
I'm
There's a
There's
So, I
See
No,
I'm
Oh,
Canyho
Puras
Pairs
Then
So it
was when
I
started
I'm
Like, so
It's
So
And I
Let's
Let's
Let's
See
And here in plenno
center of the city
And it was all of
Negro
It's like a lot of
It's like a
I mean I'm
I'm trying to
I'm trying to
But but
But no
There's people
That like
There's a
Custumbre
Or that
professes
A certain
type of
Practices
But
But in
So let's
Let's
It's the
Vestimente
Negra
I'm
Because
I'm
Because it's a
color
I'm
Because
I'm
It's because
But in
general
The people
say
that you
Vista in
Negro
are
People who have...
They have some
Crencies, no?
Yes, exactly.
So, I'm
I'm going to
Cereg.
A-
where's
I'm going to
get it?
Yeah, to
and they're
puras
Paredes.
Ah,
la
Vida.
Any one
Puerta.
See,
I
imagineate.
Tremendor.
Tremendor.
And is
it's that
it was here
in the center.
In the
city.
Yes,
and me
passed
another
also
in one
of the
,
and one of the
,
the
of the mere center.
I had I
had I
had gone to
a center
commercial
and made
a lot of
boxes that
I've been
to buy
a material
electric
and then
I said
I'm going to
go to
get my
box
in a
baggerer
and I
put
over the
banquetta
fiat
me
put
on the
on the
banqueta
in
that
I'm
I'm
looking
to
my
direction
and
I
I mean a person
mal-vestida
sucia
with a disarmador in the
man
And I'm
looking because
I impressioned
to see that.
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so
it pick up the eyes
and picka the car
and the most
shistoso of this
no sangrava
Or so
I don't
And I
I'm
So, I'm
So
I'm afraid
Oh,
Ah,
The
Mero
Oh,
eh
And I
And I
I'm
So,
I'm
So,
So,
Sivian
Disculable
The
Expression
And
And it
And so
I'm
And
Picand
And he
And he
And he
And it's
So,
And so
But it's
But
But, look at what
I
called the
attention?
That the
people
came,
I would,
I'd
cross about
in the
and
no,
knew what
I saw the
that you
see.
Ah,
can I
that was
something
most
impressive
that.
No
we're talking
then
of
something
of something
normal,
we
we're
we
we're
in
terra
supernatur
there.
So,
that's
That's true.
Fadette that...
And I'm
so...
And I don't
keep to
get to
the doubt.
I was
out of a
woman.
And I
said,
I said,
I said,
I said,
I said,
and I
did you?
No,
I don't
see nothing.
Ah,
la.
And I
said I,
I,
I don't
want to
see those
things,
but I
did.
That's
was just.
Apenest
had
like three
months.
Or...
So...
So,
so...
Fick,
how is,
no,
when,
I go,
in my
case,
in my
-a-
went over
a same
line,
how we have,
we have,
that tendency
to see things.
I mean,
many,
they want in
their lives,
but really
at times
no,
it's so,
so,
not it's so...
No,
no,
it's beautiful.
No,
so,
so,
to,
the,
the,
the third
ojo.
Yes.
I don't,
no, no,
no, no,
I like.
No,
because is
that when
you're
accustomed to
and see
certain things,
you know,
you're
you're in
risk of
any kind of,
no,
I know,
even after
to end up
you know,
because
not it's
normal,
all what
you're going
to be
so things
that's,
not there,
no,
there's,
no,
fichate
that into the
phenomena
that I'm
sure
that I'm
you're
to talk
a
story,
but I'm
you want to
you know
you know
you know
the Nahuas.
Yes.
I took the
Ditchie
there,
the same
the same
the same
Bruchy, that's
the same brawl.
It was
a girl.
She was going
to eat in
the mais of
the
people, the
sienber
that they had
the
people.
And for
that I
wanted.
Fiatate
that the
gender
as the
generer of
the gawals,
skinwalkers,
persons
that simply
can't
change their
form
physical
something
that the
people,
I'm going
to let
make
to get
to get
much,
I know,
because
everything
all what
we know
that's a
base
of creences
of the
legendas
and
basically
what
it's
what you
know,
because
no
there's
to go
and you
find that
information
veridica
I.
I have
an
information
of the
communities
and
then
then the
people
what they
say.
Because I
said,
well,
what is
a
gual?
And
platica a
woman.
A-WAL is
a person.
But how
is that
is a
wau?
From where
it's
how?
Yes.
I mean,
when the
woman
is a
end of
the
room where
they're
going to
be a
animal.
So,
I don't
see if
it's a
real.
And the
animal
that they
put in
that animal
is going
to be
when
it's
Cresca.
So,
I'm
a
woman.
She's
one
once
or much
times?
One
a
one more
when they're
to
live
or
dead?
Vibed.
Debago
of the
camera,
says
where you
will
do the
woman.
There's
put the
animal.
You know,
but what
necessity
there?
Yeah,
so,
like,
to desire
that my
son
to say
my
child.
Yes.
But so
the
people,
says.
Ah,
okay,
it's
like.
I'm,
it's
of ritual. No, no
I believe, but, well, if
the people don't say. And is that the
people of the people, well, they have...
Their creencers. They have some creences, very
arraigated. It's the reality.
I mean, they're in many
things, and even if we're
a lot of absurd,
well, at times, yeah,
when you're presential the things,
you know, it's so, okay, no is
so, so descabellate. I'm...
I'm going to tell you. This story,
that has to be able to.
A little. This story
me a top, but
it was made very interesting.
This person
is called
Jose,
like I.
My tokayo.
And he said
that in that
then he
had 12 years
when this
occurred.
In that time
we used to
go backations
to go to
the rancho of
my
abelos
and that
we went
to us
we were to
get us
when we
said my
abuela
and I
was my
father and
my parents
and I
when we
we got to
to come
to dinner
to dinner
to dinner
He said,
I saw that my
Abel
and my
Papa
were coming
a little
more
faster
and I
see that
when
they were
to go
to say
to come
to
talk about
I'm
about
but
but
but
but
a
despite
that
they
they
in voice
back
he
I
got
to
listen
to
I
know
to
say
my
my
father
that
in the
last
nights
had
had
been
has
been
disappeared
part
of
his
but
the
rare
is that
the day
next
I found
the
cadaver
near the
but
he was
he was
with
the
body
and my
father
he said
he could
be
some
some
animal
salvage
that
was
my
my
abuel
he
said
he
could
but no
I
know
a
single
animal
that
only
only
he
only
he
come to
the
my
father
said
I
know
said
I
said
then
after
after
that we
We're in the
house of
the
abelos
and it
was in the
rachos
he's
used to be
to get
to get
to be in the
time
we're in
the room
where
we always
we're
a room
where it's
a little
we're a
quiet
and I'm
I'm
I'm just
I'm
I'm
so I'm
so I
see that
my
abel
that
that starts
from the
door
or he
or he
come
So, so
So he's called
His papa
Joel
Come, Joel,
Ben
He's
He's
He's
And my
And my
Abel
He said
My father
He said
He says
Accompaniam
To be
Have
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
One
And
You know
One
A lantern
I said
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
And so
My
My
Papa
me
You know
Let
Let's
We're
Where
Where are
Where are
Where are
Where are
Where are
Where's
Where are the
animals.
Dice, my
abuela, my
mom and
us
we're going to
see,
my
boy and my
father
and my
father were
to come in
where
were in the
carlals.
Yeah,
it was
it was too
it was
dark as
they were
when they
they were
they're
they're
when they
called
the gritty
of my
abel
help me
my
boy,
he's
in that
the
perro that
they're
in the
per
and he
he's
the
person to
the person
I'm
in the
moment I
to get it, and I said, where was the corral.
When I came, I wasombered.
I sawmere,
and I saw a besea that had never seen
said that was in the somers.
It was very great.
Abajo of the besea,
there was a cabra that was justgarada.
My abuel was in the piso,
and that animal
he's
scondio
but
it's a form
like
of a
sort of
a form of
a burrow
I mean
a mixture
strange
but it was
very
dark
he said
he made
that that
that animal
had
like
conciencia
because
I was
that was
being
and he
was
he was
he
he was
I think
that the
machete
I said
I'm
I think
the
animal
for
the animal
He said that he had
pelage gris
not a
black,
it was gris
but that
the animal
approached
and he's
he went
and he said
we were
putting the
and moving
the mountain
and in
that moment
my papa
was a
side too
like it's
like
he's
like it
was
kind of
and then
he said
yeah
we said
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
getting
there
my
my abuel
us
he's
that his
machete
had
because
he
He came first to corral,
he saw the animal
of the animal
was with the animal
little little bit
that was coming
and my
abel lancetal
the animal
so did
and what he
made to make
to make
like his
arm so
he cobue
and he
lastimed
to the beastia
well
he said
yeah we're
we're just
we're like
at 5 or 6
of the morning
saying
not you're
going to
get to
amazer
and we
we're
the
asombroso of the history.
My abuelo
to go to the
people,
he said,
he's
a very little
the
place, he's
to the
plopaleria
and the
he said,
oh,
where's,
he's,
he's,
he's got what
to do you,
what's
what's
what's
who's,
who's,
who's
who's
can't
if he's
but he's
but he's
a hair
like
a machete
in the
braus
I'm
I'm
going to
tell
something
something
and
he
said
don't
Miguel
was the
Brucho
of the
people
Nahu
Nahu
Nahu
So,
incredible
how these
phenomena
are still
you know
to what
you're
about
your
abuelita
specifically
what?
That she
she
was a
master
Yeah
she
she
came to
the
house
of the
master
and
he said
that
all
the
nights
she
was
something
that
was
something
that
had to
the
palm
of the
house
Yeah, because the teacher was
a palm.
Yeah.
All the nights.
All the nights
and she
not could
do not know.
And of
so,
tant,
so,
I'm talking to
the person
Oh,
I guess
that all the
nights
me get to
the
sleep,
no,
my
my
my
okay.
How
is going to
make this?
So,
we're going
to espia
and we
go to
go to
go to
go.
It's
one
one
night
gets
the
night
they're
they're
they're
killed.
At the
other
day
they're
that
a man
of the
people
had
had
died
a machete
fiat
so
that you
that you
practiced
is
that
that is
that is
that is
that is
in what
you
didn't
know
never
knew
but it
but it
was here
of Oaxaca, right?
Yes.
And so, best.
And yeah, the
people
see,
who were?
Do you?
Do you
know?
No, identified.
Who are?
And they
said,
yeah, maestra,
yeah,
no, he's
a lot.
And,
and so,
it's calmed
all.
Fiatty
that I know
to eliminate
a gawal
with arm
of fire
no,
it's what,
well,
is what I
have been,
that's what
to be,
that to
to eliminate
them
to
Machetazos.
Palazos.
Exactly.
Yes.
So, that the arms
of the
fire not respondent.
Even a
bivora,
when you
do you
make the machete
it's more
aggressive.
It's like
a palo.
Yes,
is what I've
heard of
a bivor
with a machete
with a
machete, with
a little.
I know
what you
have you
but
wow.
Crencies
is the
people
in the
rancho.
Yes.
And I
I was because your
father
one
once
he found
a sorda
in the
house
and put
a tub
in the
man
and the
vibro
he brinkable
and he
brinkable
and he
he's
me gritts
pass me
a psalm
and
me and see
a can
that I
didn't know
that I'm
wow
some
something
that you
want to
you want to
talk
before
before
that I
share
the
night
of
the
night
of
you
I'm
to tell
another
of
a
people
also
and
like
to your
old
little
my
and I'm
put up
the
house of
the
master
I'm
in the
house
and in
the
night
but
there
the
nagual
was
bivora
okay
I'm
I'm
glad
I'm
now
so
it's the
continuation
of your
story
uh
yeah
you
got to
you
get to
the
master
I'm
put
my cart
I
gave
a mack
and
I
didn't
content
It gets the
night
and I
hear how
it's
how it's
the
palma
how
it's
I'm
I'm
bivora
and a
moment to
another
I started
how
I was
a guajolota
fift
and I
I'm
I said
you
think I
think
I'm
I'm
I'm
of the catre
I sit in the
maca
I said I'm gonna
say I'm gonna
I'm gonna
all the
night
me the night
me la
the first
the first
the first day
that they
I don't
do you
no dorms
and you
don't know
and you're
not
I'm in the
salons or I'm
no
I'm at the
other day
I'm
I'm
and I'm
said I
my master
is Fulanita
It's Nahuahua
Ah, the
No, we're going to
do nothing
He says
We're going to
Let me
We're going to
Let's say
That he
Let's make
to get to
Moldest
If
no
she,
then we
have to
have to
linch
And
Fisate
that they
They're
They're
Never
me
Movio
So,
Wow
No
So is
That's
That's
That's what
He has
That's
They have a
different,
that's
that's,
that's the
that's,
that's,
the logic,
how does it
is that
an animal
dehy to
be there,
about a
person,
I mean,
is what they
do that.
But the
people
yeah
know who
were.
Yeah,
is that they
had identified
to the
people,
not,
to the
Nahuas
of the
people.
Yeah.
All right.
Fiat you,
yeah.
Fifate
that,
well,
I don't see
if you
have more
stories,
no
know
but I want to tell you this story
to give fin a this
or you have another more
if you want to share us
or yeah
I've got to the other
occasion I'll try you
I'm just
one but it's large
yeah
what has to be
of your abuelita
Quintalara
no
it's very
long
it's very large
it's very long
it's so it's
very long
and that's
very good
because in my
eyes
but what
but what phenomenon
is duendes
gnawales
Bruchas
Kied
Incognita
Kieden
No dweend
Nahuas
It's a little
It's a little
Spanto
Something more
More than
Ah, okay
We're
We're talking
We're talking
Of course
Okay
So then
For the second
Part
For the
So that the
People
Bea
That I'm
That I'm
That I'm
That's
Okay
I'm
I'm
And I, and no,
I'm not
more
I'm
my family
you also
you also
you're
Ah,
how can I
know?
Well,
I'm going to
have to
remember
because
I don't
I'm
so you
You know
your
told your
abelita
to the
camera
Ah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah I
yeah
yeah I
yeah
yeah
I
yeah
I'm
yeah
one
I
I'm
my mommy.
Yeah one
one
I'm talking
but
but it's
it's
good that
more than we
we'll
we're talking
very
very
very
and it's
real
so it's real
this
are things
when my
eyes
when my
I'm
no there
no
there's
you know
you're gonna
make
conclusions
but no
there's
you know
you're
you're
you're
you're
you're
you're
my spouse
do you
and I'm
Crinkab,
of one
side to
other?
Yes,
exactly.
The mald
exists, ma'am.
The mald
exists.
But you know,
this I've
done many
times.
The maldade
exists, but
it's
to be worse
to the
to do you
to do it.
So,
that's,
so it's,
it's,
so it's,
because
so it's,
so, not
only only
it's,
I'm,
you know,
so I'm,
so,
because the
who plays
with a
fire,
so can't
keep,
I'm going to
finalize
this
Noche
of experiences
of anecdotas
with one
that's
a person
this
no has to
be with
phenomena
of the
Nahuales
this
this person
me says
Paco
I in that
then
was a
muchach
that was
a
teacher
I said
I
was I
was
doing
I'm
doing
so I'm
and I
heard
clearly
the voice
of my
mom
that
me
said
I'm going to
I'm going
I'm
I'm
so I'm
distracted
so I'm
so I'm
to get the
door
and I'm
to get to
the
kitchen
and no
there
said
in that
I'm
I'm
how is
possible
what I
said
my
my mom
died
two
months
so
no
he
no
he's
not
he
he's
then
he
I'm
let's
let's
let's
let's
that they
were to
to regar
Agua
Vendita
Okay
And me
He said
Paco
was the
worst
that I'm
doing the
in
quite
were the
person
the
house
was like
if
was like
was
to
start to
manifest
more
so
so
in
instead
to
get
to
say
he
says
he
want
to
he
to
she
she
she
was
she
was
a
her
her
father,
he was
when they were
very
little,
when she
was a
little bit of
she was,
she was,
she was
she didn't
because she
was living
that she
had been a
good
relation with
her
she said
after that
those people
rocearon,
I began
to live
many things
more
more things.
For the
nights
I was the
silota
of a
woman in
my
room,
I was
there was
there was
sometimes
that I
could be
moving
and I
felt like
some
some
me to talk about the
brazo
and until
the last
he was in
my front
but it was
a lot of
very free
I said
I'd
think I'm
and I'm
so I'm
so much
nights
so it
was something
but
all right
that were
these people
that were
so all
so all
so all
so I said
I said
I was
to talk
with the
people
that were
to the
person who
I was
I'm
and
they're
that
that
that was
that was
that was
that was
that was
they
They call them infestation,
so that the
house is infested
of something.
And that I
saw and I
didn't know
my mother,
but they were
they were in
reference to
a demonio.
And that what
they were,
it was that
they were going
to enter
with a process
of an
and oration
to be able
to do that
the house.
I'm in
that moment,
then I
said that I
didn't even
that I'd
to be
there,
but I
didn't
other place
to go.
At the
days,
I know
While I was
While I was
That my
My body
was full
of arrawnes
They were
They were
They're so
Finitous
That I
didn't
When I was
But with
the jabon
They began
Arder
So in the
Spejo
So it
And it
And it's
And it
The part
of the
back of
his
Sheenna
of her
And then
She's
She gets
to
espantar
Much
because
Yeah
they're
Like
Like
daeating
physically
So
we
We
about
of things
more
and they said
that the
few days
came to
these people
to make a
session
to get a
session of
their
house
and they
started
to
and they're
to
and they
and they
started
and they
were
very
in the
court
where
he was
his
mom
well
so on
the
escalers
and
his
mom
had
a
ball
very
that
had
a
but the
but the
I mean
out there
there
out of the
okay
he said
with
much
work
we're
we're
not a
car
and all
I'm
surprised
to
get
to get
so
many
my
my mom
said
I
said that
my
mom
practicable
this
and
I don't
have
any
the
mind
idea of
she said
I
had
had
yeah
yeah
yeah
when
when
we
when we
we
said
fetches
fetches
exactly
but
but
up
there was
something
that was
a
book
they were a
book
and in the
book
and in
the book
there was
a card
written
with a
man
a man
a man
when
when I
read the
card
she
was a
card
dedicated
to a
a
god
a
that
a
that
where
she said
that
she
had
her
life, that
was when
her mom
was a
card.
That pact
that he was
his mom
was when she
was when she
was young
before she
was
he said,
he said,
and I
tell I'm
my
my future
kids because
they're
to serve
and are
my
success
when she
read that
her
her
she's a
mother
she said
even before
she
never was
she entered
that she
was
like
she
was like
she
was even
to be
she
And that for
So, after
that her mom
and she
began to see
to see a
this,
that's,
that's,
like,
a little
like,
I'm,
like,
I'm
pertainse.
So she
had a
point that
her
was a
practice
of this
type of
artes
and that
had
ever made
and that
never
so,
he said,
we're
we've
done,
we've
done this
night,
I've got to
come in
house of
a
amygita of the school. I don't
get me there. But I can't say
that when I regress another
time, everything, all
is very tranquil.
She calmed. She
could live.
Salio.
Salio.
But.
Like,
the story that I'm going to
commentary.
Ah, okay.
But for the
next.
Ah, yeah,
of the
we're talking.
Yeah, it's
it.
It's like,
yeah, is that
I'm going.
The way, the
that you say,
is exactly
And you're just
You know
How the
things
They're
In the same
In the
anecdotas
In the anecdotes
So,
here we're
We're talking
Yeah, no
No, no
I was
I mean
I'm
I'm even
Even one of
My Vissives
Even though
It's
Has to
It's
It's still
Yeah
Oh,
That's
Yeah
Yeah
But
You think
Can't
It's
Can't
Can't
Manny?
I think
Yeah
I'm
I'm
It's
It's
It's like
to give to that, I mean.
It's like to have that record
of when it was happening
these things. So, so, that
is that, so, that's
medias gachas.
But, well, family, the
fact, Mami,
I've enjoyed much the
chapter with you.
Muchismas
for having been
for having accepted
the invitation.
Nowament
I'm a
great abrazo to
all the mothers
that we're
listening.
To do the
Mammies.
Felicidates.
Let's desire
the best of
all the world.
Let me
send a great
Abrassau.
Let's
I desire
the
better.
And we
don't
see
in a
new
chapter.
Passen
a
bonito.
Until
the
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